Beamer Bowl

1:47 And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast, a part of the College Hettle Network along with my partners, Brian Siegler, Jonathan Talley and Shelton Moss. I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at Counts Family Pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy at Three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg. Check him out when you head down this year for a game. We are also brought to you by Moments on the Moray. Looking for a weekend getaway but still need to make it to Blacksburg for the game? Moments on the Moray is exactly what you need. Keep your wife happy. Keep yourself happy on this on by a proud hokey located just outside of Lexington, VA, just a little over an hour drive from Blacksburg.

2:34 Gives you fishing, kayaking, canoeing, just relaxing by or in the river right out the back door. Check out the links in our comments section and on Instagram at moments on the moree. Gentlemen, we have finally made it. Week 1, man, Week 1, it's been a long time coming. It has been a long time coming and I mean it looks like so much going on in the chat tonight I believe. Oh man, we already jumping in the chat right? Everybody jumping in the chat free Caleb we going to talk about that? Oh man, people feeling good vibes hey. I got a question right quick before we get started on on some serious stuff.

3:20 Yeah. Was that was the intro song longer today than normal? Because I feel like I was sitting here for like 10 minutes waiting to come in. Maybe it was anticipation. Tally is ready for Week 1. Tally you're. Ready on that one. Use that word ready loosely like that. I don't know about ready. We going to see after the night how ready I am. So we got a question here because my child had baseball practice till 9:00 tonight. Yeah, didn't leave the child at the baseball field. I not good parenting so. I mean, you can, it's, it's just not advised. I mean, CPS might be showing up or something at some point, but. They may be, but you know, all good Shelton. How?

4:06 How's life, man? It's been good, man. We're going to be pretty busy this week. Students are back at least. I wouldn't marry tomorrow. I know obviously they're coming back all over the country. So this is kind of time where, you know, campuses become lively again, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it. But but yeah, it's gonna get, we're gonna get going here. Right, Right, right. In a few days. Hopefully you don't have a Saturday night at Sharky situation. Not go there. It's too soon, too soon, right? All right, well, real quick, we do. We do have a special guest to kick off the show doing things a little different than we normally do. We're going to start with Know the Enemy because we got a special guest. But real quick before we get into that some I'm sure some fun back and forth.

4:53 We get in to tell the truth Tuesday as we tell the truth about the death chart because it looks like a full of a lot of lies in my opinion in stealing that from you Tally and some other people that use it. This is like really heartfelt because you don't want to see anything bad happen to anybody. And if y'all were not aware, have not seen it. Gamecocks defensive line coach Trevian Robertson was involved in a pretty bad car accident last week. I I think he is in stable condition, still in ICU. Got a long way to go. But you know, it's a game. Something like this happens. It it, it does, the game's still going to be played. They going to hit each other, they going to try to win it, But you see something like this, you know, prayers up for him and his family, entire Gamecocks community concerning that because it's a life changing event. So again, shout out on that.

5:51 And well, Brian, let's go ahead and bring on our guest this week is from the podcast Cox Talking Gamecocks is Tim Cox. Tim, Hey, how you doing this evening? What's going on fellas? Thanks for having me. Anytime, Tim, thanks for joining us. So you know, we were chit chatting beforehand and we did not get to ask you, you asked us, but now we'll ask you. Give us a little bit. How did this start? How did your podcast start? Where you from, what you doing? And are you going to the game Sunday? Yeah, appreciate it. Well, First off, that's a beautiful shout out. You had to coach Robertson, obviously very tough situation for not just him, but the other family that was involved. So yeah, anyone who's out there sees Gofundmes definitely support that.

6:40 But yeah, so Cox talking Gamecocks. I mean, obviously my name kind of works with the mascot of our of our team. So once South Carolina graduated in 2015 and you know, that was really my first exposure to like big time college athletics and just absolutely fell in love with it. I was a sports management major, so just like really dove into every aspect of it there. And afterwards, after you graduate, it's kind of that one tangible thing that you and your buddies can still talk about and you can go to the games and just kind of stay connected through. So any chance I had, I would talk Gamecock sports to whoever would listen. And I think the passion only grew the farther I got away from graduation.

7:26 And then, you know, we had our Will Muschamp era, or error, if you will, and then brought on Shane Beamer as a head coach. It was just on the heels of COVID where, you know, I was like, you know what, if we're going to try and shake things up here and chase a passion, there's a new chapter in Gamecock football, so let's go for it now. So I've been doing it for going on Year 5 now, which is crazy, but it's been a blast. I'm on Twitter as Cox Gamecocks and Instagram Cox talking Gamecocks. I do shows twice a week, Mondays and Fridays, and try to keep them nice and brief and fun. So yeah, that's, that's me in a nutshell. But I've been, I've been looking forward to this. When you all reached out, I was like, not only am I raring to go for Week 1, but I'm raring to go to talk some smack about the Beamer Bowl and I'm ready for this one. Man, you brought up the Beamer Bowl that that's got me, that's got me having some, some feels.

8:19 All right, First thing we got to talk about what what, what colors, what logo is Frank going to have on at this game? Y'all are not going to want to hear this. He's going to be wearing Gamecocks. I, I'm, I'm calling it now. I mean he's been down in Columbia multiple times wearing the garnet in black. I'm sure you're vomiting in your mouth right now, but I foresee him in garnet in black. Maybe he'll put on a a Virginia Tech cap, but who knows. It's. Going to be like like one of those like parents of players that are on both teams. They got like the split. Jersey, I could see it. I can see the split or maybe just like a nice neutral color like blue or something that's just completely unaffiliated with anything.

9:04 How you feel about that? Yeah, Frank gonna have to have a team on. I don't know which one is going to be, but Frank gonna have to have a team on. We're going to find out a lot Sunday. It's going to be great. About about what Frank going to do. But I kind of feel like he going to have Gamecock stuff on. That's just how I feel. That's blood, man. I mean, represent representing his son. You know, I feel like that's what it's going to be. If it was in Blacksburg, I think he might have put on Southern Virginia Tech for the people, but being neutral site, he's going to be in the box with other Gamecock fans and family. So that's just that's my prediction right there. Frank, if you listening to this, you better show it with some damn hokey stuff on.

9:44 You got a statue sitting in front of that stadium? You better get down the road he's in. I took a picture with that statue. We did take a picture with that statue. It looked like it looked like Hank Hill daddy, but it's still a statue. It's. Close enough. It's close enough. Yeah. It's in the ballpark. You know who it is? Yeah, we know who it is. It's. It's better than some statues and things I've seen in the past. Some of them are just God awful. But but let's let's get into it because obviously this is your team. This is the team you focus on. So we've got quite a few questions we want to ask and I'm going to lead it off and I won't talk. We're going to start on offense and I won't talk about Mike Schuler because yeah, you, you look at it, you got Mike Schuler coming in, former Alabama head coach, you know, former NFL coordinator, you know, worked there with Cam for a few years up in up in Carolina.

10:41 And last year he was brought in as a special assistant to the offense. Now my question is, was this effectively Lamoris is built similar to Cam similar game? Was this strictly for that? And was the always move to OC going to happen regardless whatever? Was it Dow all right? Yeah, Dow Loggins. Dow Loggins, who went up to at State. Was that the plan from the beginning you think? I don't know if it was necessarily the beginning. I mean, I think Shane would have loved to have kept dabble on, you know, things started to really click with with them and especially that last six game stretch of the season last year.

11:22 I think it was a natural transition for a few reasons. Like, yes, Shula has experience with athletic quarterbacks like Cam, but he also has experience with a guy like Josh Allen briefly. He like he will name drop Daniel Jones. I'm not putting him anywhere near my quarterback. It's, you know, a guy. Subject. That's the sore subject. So yeah. So I think when you had, he was the on field assistant for Dabble Loggins. So the guy who was talking and sitting down with Lenoris on the field when the bullets are flying was Shula. And so I think you're able to keep some synergy between maybe some of the terminology, knowing some of Lenoris's tendencies.

12:05 And I'm pretty sure Lenoris gave it a glowing review and a green light when the decision was, you know, more or less finalized, like, hey, we're going to do this. But I just felt like it was a natural transition where you didn't have to overhaul the entire system. And, you know, I think we're all cautiously optimistic to see how it goes. Well, I'm hoping that it goes bad because I'm from Alabama. Sure. And I'm used to Mike Shula being Alabama's coach, and that is not something you want to talk about in the state of Alabama. Did not go well. So if I can see something like that happen, You seem cool, Tim, but I want him to do bad. But anyway, we going to go to the next. We going to go to the next thing.

12:45 Talking about your quarterback, which everybody kind of knows him. If you haven't heard about him, probably haven't been paying attention to college football. Lenore Sellers getting a ton of hype this offseason, which is warranted kind of. Could you tell us a little bit about him and what you know of him and what you know kind of what we expect for him from him in this game? Yeah, I mean Lenoris is we're calling him la savior. If you he he was a guy that when he came in, you know, was recruited a little bit under the radar, was actually at one point committed to your in state rivals Virginia and we were all excited about him. We knew he had all the ability in the world and what you saw last year was really his maturation and realizing some of that potential where those first four or five games he was actually banged up a lot.

13:37 It was battling through some injuries, but once he was able to stay on the field and develop and get those game reps, you saw it all come together. He's big, he's fast, he's physical. Everyone loves to talk about his ability to escape the pocket and run, which is incredible. And there's a play from our game against A&M where he just truck stick to dude to get the first down so he can do all that. But I think what's underrated about him is his passing ability. Like last year he had some fantastic throws, but you could tell he wasn't quite as polished as maybe you'd want your SEC quarterback to be. So that's where I think Mike Shula is going to really help him. And what they've really preached this year is working on the footwork, knowing when to tuck and run instead of having to rely on it.

14:21 So I think you have a real possibility that Lenora Sellers can be a top two or three quarterback in all of college football this year. And, you know, we're all kind of holding our breath. You know, we haven't really had something like that in Colombia. Like, you know, we had Spencer Rattler recently. He had his good moments and his last year in Carolina was really good, although the winds didn't really stack up. You got to go back to Connor Shaw as a guy who really was that warrior for the Gamecocks, but more of a college quarterback scramble, like didn't really have that necessarily pro ability, but a guy that just won a ton of games, bled Garnet and black. But Lenoris is kind of that first time that we're looking at this like, holy crap, we might have a top overall quarterback pick in our locker room right now and a guy who's going to give us a chance in every game. So I know I just went on for a little bit, but if you can't tell, we're we're we're pretty excited about Lenora sellers around these parts.

15:21 Well, you, well, you should be. I mean, last year, what, 65% completions, 18 to 7 ratio. You know, rusher over 500 yards and he's A and he's and he's a big guy. It's not like you're going out there. I mean, was HE63240? He's a. Big guy like that, what about I'll? I'll ask this because he played every game last year. All but one game last year. Yeah, he sat out one game due to injury, but he got knocked out of the LSU game, which was a heartbreaker for South Carolina. And you could just tell he wasn't 100%. And, and some of these other ones earlier in the year, I believe it was the Ole Miss game where he came back. And that was his first like game where he was like fully healthy back from recovering from the injuries. And so those last six games that Carolina won all in a row was really when he was fully healthy and acclimated. What was the injury last year?

16:21 I mean, you know, it's like us, you can tell us. Well, Kyle Drum was hurt like it was his foot, then it was shoulder and his knee is everything. What was that particular injury early in the season last year? It was a high ankle sprain. Yeah. So it, it lingered. And especially for a young quarterback who was relying on his legs a little bit earlier in the season, you know it it, it was tough, but, you know, managed through it and, you know, came out on the other side better for it. Well, let's talk about the biggest news for the the Gamecocks this week. Rasul Faison. Let me know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Got got approved by the NCAA for a new another year of eligibility it seems.

17:04 He's like 46, get a job. Yes, it it seems that a lot of this is contingent upon, you know, what judge you get, but all these guys train for, you know, four or five teams in their career. But that's just the way things are today. So well, I was looking at his PFF stats. Obviously he was very well rated in the running game specifically seemed like he struggled a little bit with run blocking last year. But you know, for the most part a pretty good runner has some good after contact numbers. Tell us about his game, what what him being eligible will provide for the offense that maybe they wouldn't have otherwise if he was off the field. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was a that was a hell of a countdown we had with the NCAA, like, you know, and brief history, like I don't think many people have glowing reviews of the NCAA, but it just feels like for South Carolina, like you always get the short end to stick with these rulings where I was convinced he was going to get cleared, but only after the game with y'all.

17:58 So we're all very excited about that. I mean, the running backroom as it sits without him, I had faith in, you know, even without him, it's three or four guys deep, guys with experience. Name you're going to hear a lot is Oscar Attaway. He's now going to be that really RB2 more likely. But Faison was a guy that the coaching staff were really high on kind of penciled him is an as an RB one. I think he's a violent runner He can make a guy miss can run between the tackles just as well as going outside. But I think when you're really going to see his value is catching and in those short intermediate passes, those those screens and things like that. So his run after the catch ability as a running back I think is really exciting. And just now it's that much more deeper of a running backroom. So he's been practicing under the assumption that he's going to be cleared.

18:51 So I don't see necessarily this drop off in usage, but there might be a little bit where maybe a guy like Addaway or a Fuller goes a little bit more than maybe normal. But yeah, we're all really excited for Sewell and what he brings to the table. Let let let me ask this because I think the one thing that I had for for Mike Shula's offense is Mike Shula's pro guy. Usually most pro guys are 5050. They're going to try to balance it out. You you look at the data from last year, you know y'all were a 6364% run team versus a 30% pass team.

19:35 Do you have a pause for a second that could they, and we know how this goes because this was us last year, Could they try to push too much pass early? Because we're trying to get Lenore's to go to the next level to get ready and effectively go away from the bread and butter, go away from what works early in the season because we're trying to make him an NFL player. Is does that fear? Because you know? Effectively, we saw it happen with Carmen Jones last year. They tried to make him a pocket pass for what he wasn't and you saw some of the results we had until finally they decided to switch it back. Yeah, you guys are great.

20:16 First off, you guys are coming out with stats that like I haven't even looked at like we got, we got ratings and things like that. So kudos to y'all, but it's a good question. Now, I think some of that 65 split that you had was you do have a young quarterback and you have to lean on, you had a guy in Rocket Sanders last year who was one of the better backs in the SEC. So you're going to work what's what's cooking for you. And the wide receiver corps last year was pretty thin and rather inexperienced. This year, the wide receiver corps returns basically all the the main guys from last year in the 2 deep. So you have that. You have experienced tight ends as well, brought in a good tight end transfer from Kentucky, and you have a bunch of exciting freshmen wide receivers as well. But the offensive line has a lot of continuity and is set to be improved.

21:09 So all that to say, I think you probably see a more even split of run pass. Something that South Carolina always has wanted to do under Shane Beamer is control the line of scrimmage. So they're going to be stubborn with the run regardless. And with Lenoris, like yes, they're trying to get him to be a more complete passer, but you're not going to get away from his strength and his X Factor, which is his legs, right? So I guess to answer your question, like I'm not too worried about them forcing the issue with having Lenoris air it out a lot because of the depth in the running backroom. If they have to turn to that, they will. Got it. And, and, and you mentioned about the, the receivers and stuff because you know, your leading guy last year was a tight end, Josh Simmons.

21:58 I mean, 40 receptions, just over 500 yards. And you know, looking through it, I'm gonna throw some names out here. You tell me who you're most excited about. So you've got second receipt. Lead receiver last year was Mazzio Bennett, Junior. And then some of the other guys you've got Ventrilus, Ventrilvius, Jacob or Have Mercy, somebody. We're very familiar with Nick Harbor because he's up from the DC area, so the DMV. But out of all those, Jared Brown is the only guy that you guys are potentially in your two 3D because we got to consider the slot now part of it.

22:40 So we used to talk about two D4D wide receiver. Wide receiver is 6 or 7 deep. Now you got Jared Brown who transferred from Coastal has the most career yards out of all those guys. He he's the only guy that has 1000 yards career that you're bringing back. So they played some last year, but it's not like they exploded. Who are you excited about? I mean, it has to be Nick Harbor. It has to be he was getting better and better as the game went on. Now the thing with Harbor is, or as the season went on, excuse me, but the thing with Harbor was he was A2 sport athlete. He was splitting his time between track and football, and when he was in high school he wasn't really a wide receiver full time, right? Like I could be mistaken here, but I think he played some defense, maybe even tight end as well. So he's still pretty raw as a wide receiver. This offseason he made the decision to not pursue track anymore.

23:33 So he has a full spring under his belt. The reports out of campers that he looks great. You have to be the most excited about him just because of his physical abilities. Now, I really like Mazie O Bennett. He was a big recruiting win that the Carolina Gamecocks got, was pretty consistent for them as a true freshman. And if he can take up his game to the next level, I think that's someone who could be a difference maker for you as well. But those those four guys that you listed off like, yes, that's the core that we're hoping to collectively take a next step because behind them it is a bunch of freshmen, albeit, you know, talented, but still freshmen. So I like, I like Harbor and Bennett to take big steps forward this year. And in order for them to have big years, you are going to rely on that offensive line.

24:22 And you're looking, looking at the offensive line, it looks like 11 starter returning from last year, Josiah Thompson. You had a tree bobble lady returning that played some in 2023 but then redshirted last year. In 2024. You had a couple other guys mix in from the from the transfer portal. What what is the biggest concern for this offensive line given that there's not a ton of returning talent from last year's team? So I'm going to Fact Check you a little bit on that case. And Henry was the starting right tackle. He is also returning as well. And you also have a guy Trovon Bo, who played a lot his freshman year, maybe quite you know was in and out of the rotation, but he played a lot as well.

25:07 Then you're bringing in Boaz Stanley from thinking transferred in from Troy. Yes, thank you. Yes, so there's a this is the most size and athleticism that Shane Beamer has had on that offensive line in his tenure. And the offensive line has been an issue for South Carolina. I mean, I you could probably go to the majority of college football fan bases and they'll say this has been an issue, but it kind of feels like put up or shut up time for this line. So looking at guys like Josiah Thompson, Tro Tree Case and Henry Staley, then you got Nick Sharp.

25:49 There's a couple of guys here who could be plugged and played in. They cross train and it's a, it's a pause because it's been a not exactly a strength for South Carolina. But this year the hope is that they're they're a little bit more experienced collectively and they can go and at least get out of the gate a little bit faster than they did. Hope that answers the question. Good. Where's the battle? Because we've named 6 or 7. But where's the battle? Where's where you mentioned Tree? Because I think Tree played right tackle along with Haston some last year. Is that the battle right now?

26:30 Is that the one that if as hokey fans start seeing it, that you might see both of those guys play off and on? From everything I've seen, yes, it's those two guys and I I think Kayson might have the inside track for it. Tree is he's a he's an interesting case. He's really good. Like he played his freshman year and I thought he would have been a shoe in to play last year, his sophomore year, but he can play tackle, he can play guard. So that's a guy that you can look out for as just he can go anywhere and he's a massive human being. On one of the interior guard positions, you have a freshman who's trying to battle his way there, Shed Sarat and he's battling. I believe it's with Nick Sharp, who is a transfer guard as well. So there's a couple, but I think for the most part you're looking at Kason Trovon, Josiah Staley and Sharp. But it's going to be interesting to see what's that depth chart is officially released, which I'm hoping we get in a day or two.

27:33 Y'all aren't getting one by the way they said it today. Yep. I can't remember who it was now it was I'm assuming y'all did media day-to-day down there and someone said with the media notes no depth chart was. So he is that scared of Virginia Tech coming off the 6th? And so, no, so that's the, that's the media notes. Shane Beamer had pushed everything back a day this week because the game's on Sunday. So normally he does the normally he does the he does the press conference on a Tuesday, which would have been today. And I think he's doing it tomorrow. So I'm thinking tomorrow or Thursday we'll have a depth chart. But I predict there's going to be a lot of ores on it.

28:14 He doesn't. He doesn't keep it like too too, you know, strict. Yeah, yeah, ours came out with a bunch of ores as well, so we're going to shake that out a little bit later in this episode. We're going to talk about. Our depth card I'm. Sure, a little later, a lot of ores I've heard it's. I've heard it's thin. That's all I've heard Thin. Necessarily thin. Just a lot of ore, all right. Less. Certainty positions we thought were maybe more certain than they are. We'll see. It's all gamesmanship. Like especially Week 1, it's it's all just gamesmanship. Well, hold on, y'all got to go look this up because if you're a college football fan, go look at what New Mexico Lobos. Have y'all seen that yet?

28:56 I just saw that, yeah. Did you see that? Shelton? Go look it up if you get a chance to him tonight. Yeah, It's it's hilarious what they did. Is it they're it's I don't want to spoil it for you. You're going to laugh. You're going to laugh your ass off. Let's get over we we, we we talked about the offense hit all the burning point. Shelton Moss kick us off on defense, man. Yeah. So first of on defense, let's talk Dylan's talk talk. Dylan Stewart obviously had a great year last year, 51 keeping pressures total, which is 4th best NSC and we'll talk about him later on the podcast as well. So my question to you is, you know, on a scale of 1 to Nedama can sue, how concerned should Hokies fans be about this case?

29:41 He looks at me like he's got elite physical tools, maybe a little bit undersized, but obviously you can't deny the results there. How, how dangerous is he and how do you think he will, you know, maintain his effectiveness without a guy like Kyle Kennard on his opposite side? I mean, you, you guys worry about the Sandman every game. This Dylan super might as well be the Sandman for you guys. I would I would be I would put him on the scale of 1 to Jadavian Clowney. That's where I got him this year. He is everything you want to be in your all American all SEC potential D end. You know, you say maybe a little undersized, maybe he looked a little skinny, but he's now another year or you know, really two off seasons now, but a now another year bigger, faster and stronger. He's going to get a lot of attention like naturally. And yes, we can talk about the loss of Kyle Kennard, who Nagurski award winner like that helps anyone who's opposite to him, but Dylan Stewart has that game breaking ability. Speaking of Clowny, he was mentored by him a little bit in this offseason.

30:47 Just what to expect going from year one to year 2. He has his sights on all of those accolades that Clowny had, and while I do expect him to get some extra attention from offensive lines, I think he is good enough to take over and have his moments. But at that same time, does it open up things on the other side of him where a guy like Brian Thomas or JT Gear who can go in there opposite of him and create some plays? So I'm so excited for Dylan Stewart. Like as much excitement as we have for Lenora Sellers in the offense, like I'm just as excited to watch Dylan Stewart this year. And it's a lot to put on one guy, but he has all the ability in the world. Yeah, absolutely.

31:31 And I love what you said about the Canard thing because that's always my big question. When you guys have when they're younger and they have good seasons and you look at the opposite side and it's Canard drafted high. He was an elite edge guy last year. How does that take away now when he goes in and now it's like, listen, you're not getting one-on-one against the lesser of the tackles. You're going to get chipped. You're going to get a Brian Siegel here was a guard in college. That guard is going to throw this fucking elbow right into your ribs, get you set to get him back into set to stop you. Are you ready for that Now? I'm going to go here and Sheldon wanted to jump in with Dylan Stewart, which we completely understand he is.

32:13 He's the face right now for y'all's defense. But let's talk about the DC, let's talk about Clayton White. Y'all run a 425 y'all, y'all run that. And he's been to South Carolina for I think since Shane got there, right since Shane got there. What's the just the feel on him as a coordinator is, again, we don't watch a lot of games, North Carolina games, but is he heavy blitz? Is it zone? Is it a mix? What do you see from him Sunday? Potentially setting up against the Hokies? Yeah, it's, it's a great question. It is funny to see if it almost feels rare nowadays.

32:53 I mean, I, I, you guys can probably understand like just in general college football like to have a coordinator stay for five years now, it feels rare and it feels like guys either get fired or they take the first head coaching job that gets offered to them. And Clayton White has had a couple of, you know, bites. It seems like a potential head coaching gigs at smaller schools, but has decided to stay in South Carolina. Had one rough year, but came out through the other side of it. But yeah, you said 425. He's he's going to play a lot of man. He lets his guys man up, go on islands and he's going to let that front four that, you know, front six with the 425 go to work. So in an ideal state, he's rushing 4, maybe 5. Not a ton of exotic blitzes and things like that from him. But that's why the defense last year felt so successful because you had such a strong defensive line that they could go to work and disrupt the passing, you know, just on themselves. This year the experience is mainly in the back end of the defense where you have a really strong, you know, core group of defensive backs.

33:58 So I'm expecting him to do more of the same man coverage, let those guys do their jobs on Highlands. And it's funny, I think it could be a deal where without a guy like a Kyle Canard or ATJ Sanders in the defensive tackle position, at least in this first game, it could be a lot of like coverage sacks that you're trying to get where the D backs are, you know, playing, playing well, doing their job. And you're gaining that extra second or two for a guy like Dylan Stewart to get off that double team and then get home. But all told, yeah, that's that's that's Clayton White. They're pretty good at making halftime adjustments. All told. I am a fan. What's that like halftime adjustments?

34:39 Dude, it's weird sometimes. Sometimes we'll say he waits a little too long though, you know, like that's that sometimes could be the knock on him. But it is going to be interesting to see there. There's no denying that there's talent that needs to be replaced in that front group of guys, linebackers especially, defensive tackles especially, and it's going to be interesting to see how this coaching staff works with that. I like the talent there. It's just a matter of can they produce on the field, you know? Yeah. And before we pivot back to that more experience back and let's let's pivot back over to the defensive line a little bit. Kind of look on the interior, we we, we kind of circled Nick Barrett as a name to watch on the inside of that defensive line.

35:22 But if there are there some other guys that we should be looking out for and what do they bring to the table from a skill set perspective? Yeah, great, great name. Drop Nick Barrett, a guy that we're all really excited for. He is experienced. He's going to he's set to fill the shoes of that leader in the defensive tackle group. Two more names for you all to watch here. Monkell Goodwine has been with the program for a couple of years now transferred in from I believe Alabama two years ago. But a guy who has played some, you know, little bit by little bit and really that story of development and now it's his time to start and he's going to start opposite of Nick Barrett. I I expect, and that's the name I would keep out for another 1 is Gabriel or Gabe Brownlow Dindy, a former five star recruit who transferred in this past year from Texas A&M.

36:09 Never quite lived up to that five star potential, but that's a guy who's experienced. I like to spin it for these transfers. It's like, well, at least they got SEC caliber coaching, right? Like this isn't new to them. So like he's a guy that if he can put it together, he has the size and the physicality that you look for. There's a couple other guys, you know, who you're hoping can develop and, you know, show up on the field, a guy like Pikes who transferred in. But I'd say good wine, Barrett, Brownlow, Dindy, those are your big three there in the defensive tackle spot. Yeah, moving up from the, I guess the defensive line going to the next level talking. I know you talked a little bit about kind of linebackers and hoping those guys take a next step, talking about, you know, the next guy who is, you know, taking over for a beast that you guys had in night of, yeah, Fred Johnson, which most, you know, Virginia people know. Thieves, Thieves Virginia.

37:09 Has been very good to the Gamecocks lately. Yeah, yeah, we it's been lovely. We've been. We've been good to Y'all. We've been good to Penn State. We've been good to Rutgers even. I mean, we've been good to everybody, man. Sorry, Tally. Sorry, Tally get hit a nerve. What are you talking about, Fred? All good. Yeah, just just talking about Fred and kind of, you know, I know a sophomore this year, great, great player from high school that again, a lot of Virginia fans know, Virginia Tech fans know. So kind of speak on him and what you know of him and will he be starting for you guys. Yeah, I do expect him to start. I'm excited for him. You know, he played meaningful snaps last year as a freshman and was a guy who you would just hear about every now and again in these press conferences as a guy that's impressing the coaches as a young player. You know, he did a lot on special teams as well. But I expect him to take that next level and be that leader on the defense.

38:06 You know, I he, it's funny, you mentioned Demetrius Knight. There was also Debo Williams, though. He was, you know, in their shadow a little bit. So the plays he made, these other guys were right around with them. And you're kind of, you got your eye kind of on them a little bit. But alongside him, there's a few other guys that, again, you're hoping can take that next step. A guy like Sean Murphy, who just transferred in, and then Jaron Willis. Yeah, we know. That name too. We know that name too. Is he another Virginia guy? I know he transferred from like Bama Florida State but. Virginia guy that committed to Virginia Tech for about four months so. Wow. Alright, well, hey, you guys. You guys have a good eye for talent at least, yeah. You know what?

38:52 There's that. It seems like if they don't come back around to us, they're they're heading down there to Columbia, so. Yeah, it's, it's very interesting. I mean, like side note, like, you know, part of the argument is like for the Mid-Atlantic, like the, you know, the DMV guys, like South Carolina is the closest SEC school. But it's going to be interesting to see with college worth of conference expansion if how long that holds true, whether it is a Virginia Tech or an NC State, potential SEC expansion. It's very interesting. I actually, for what it's worth, I actually think Virginia Tech would be a pretty cool addition to the SEC, but that's, you know, a different conversation. We we hope so too. It should've it actually technically. We've had that conversation a bunch of different ways and obviously at this point, anything that's not SEC or Big 10 is really kind of going to get left out in the cold one in the long run. So it's interesting.

39:40 One of those two, I mean, and but with I will say with the the new SEC mandate, if you will, that these schools have to play a Power 4 opponent once a year outside of the SEC moving forward. It's going to be interesting to see how that works. So get ready to learn, SEC Buddies. Oh, we've been OSDC for a long time. Well, a couple things. First of all, we've already got Alabama and on this on schedule and South Carolina future dates too. So that's already been playing. But college football and future dates don't matter. Worth a shit. Let me ask real quick on the linebacker room because you mentioned, you know, night, like Tally mentioned he was a stud. He was an absolute beast last year. You mentioned Debo Williams, but y'all also lost Dan Martin Scott. Dan Martin Scott, you just made the Panthers roster. So so y'all are replacing a trio of starting linebackers? Yeah, yeah.

40:34 Just just making sure that when I was researching, I was like, I know Knight. I mocked Knight to the 49ers like 14 times during the pre drafts, all that fun stuff. But Brian, he's mentioned the back end. Where are we going next? Yeah. I mean, you know, back in, you know, you talked about that being a little bit more experienced, but you did have, you know, one big departure there with what Nick Emma Moore looks like maybe. Yeah. Yeah, looks like Peyton Williams is going to be, you know, sliding into that spot. What can you tell me about Peyton Williams? What does he bring to the table at that position? Yeah, it's funny.

41:16 Peyton Williams is a guy that's really waited his turn and kind of that old school guy who's developed and waited his turn and has done well with any opportunity that he's gotten. When Nick opted out, if for lack of a better term, of the second-half of our bowl game, he slid in and performed really well. Whenever Nick was, you know, had to be rotated out for whatever reason the last year or two, he was the guy that went in there and performed very well. It's it's a huge hole to fill. I mean, there's there's no way to dodge that, right? Like, Nick did everything borderline first rounder, but Peyton Williams is a guy that understands this defense and he's going to understand his role. And when he's been asked to step onto the field, he's tended to perform well.

42:05 But really what it is is you're asking Nicky Manori's, you know, counterpart DQ Smith, a guy that's played alongside of him since they were both true freshmen, to now really be that leader in the in the safety position where, you know, there were a couple times in the past he's been caught out of position. And Nick really never really was. So you're kind of asking him now to OK, like you're a senior now it's time to take that next step. But answer the question. I have full faith in Peyton Williams for sure. And also, you know, there's a guy, David Busey in the mix for that, for that position battle as well. Don't be surprised if you're his name called Sunday as well. Very nice and you're fluffing information. I love it. I love it.

42:45 So I'm going to talk about. This is this is hilarious. Like I thought, I thought we were going to be talking like game lines and Lenoris and how we're we're talking David Busey. Like you guys are awesome. You guys are like, well, first of all, we need to let you know something about. I'm gonna let you know something about my three partners. Shelton is an Sid. Shelton knows his stats. He knows his data. He's going to fire away. Tally played tight end at Jacksonville State back in the day. Football gamer Brian played offensive line at Ham and Sydney at D3 school. But these we and I just love football. So although I have to say this, in the last few years of having Shelton here, he has turned me on some some wonderful stat sites and got me into that deeper and deeper.

43:30 So we bring the heat because we want to know the players. We want to know what to expect. Game line right now, seven and a half, eight points. That's probably it might go down a hair. It might go up yeah, but I want to hit before I wrap up with you, I want to hit one last player because this is the guy that I I'm I'm going to say it later when we do a few things about the Hokies. This is the guy that scares the Jesus out of me for your team. OK. And it is Jalen Kilgore because once. I. Look at Jalen Kilgore and you know, but he was a stud coming out of high school. He was a top 247 player.

44:11 That's. Without last year he picked the ball off 5 times but only 40 tackles. But then I did more research and it was the year before he had 80 tackles. So the guy can clearly tackle. So give me some background here because usually you don't see that big of a gap. Usually if a guy has 80 tackles, they're in the 60 to 70 range. Was there a change in what he did last year or was it just a change in what happened? Because he went from being a tackling machine, which is great, to be in a damn ball hawk, which usually you put them together, you're going to go in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft. Yeah, I mean, he's a beast.

44:51 You know, he he's he's been a beast pretty much since he stepped on campus. He's a guy that's been asked to do a lot of different things. So that might account for some of that. Just where they had him playing. We're going to go deep in the in the in the in the bag here. So last year, so two years ago when he had all more of the tackles, Clayton White had to make a little bit of a change in the defensive scheme to go to a 335 because the the the defense was just really thin, banged up, couldn't generate enough pressure. So you had more guys sitting back. So you're going to have more tackles that maybe it was like the running back getting to the second level and things of that nature.

45:32 And the Gamecocks were giving up a lot more quick passes two years ago. Last year, you're able to get more pressures on the quarterbacks. And I think you had that front 7, if you will, doing a lot more damage. And then you would have normally had or doing a lot more damage, period, right? So then you look at a guy like Kilgore was able to just be in coverage and do his thing and stay on his man. So sometimes maybe not as close to the action as he would have been two years ago, but he's a guy that can do it all for sure. Let me ask this to like showing his ball hawk skills. Were there times last year where people just kind of went away from him? He didn't get targeted at all in in the defense? Or was it more of that kind of shift in philosophy? I mean, I, I don't think guys, I don't think teams went away from him.

46:21 You know, there's a guy who got drafted, O'Donnell Fortune from South Carolina, who that was a team that was a guy that guy's tried to stay away from. Wherever Nick was shaded guy stayed away from. But I think with Kilgore, he just has those natural instincts and he knows where to be, you know, right place, right time. And just in general, that back half of the defense is really well coached by Tory and Gray and they understand their jobs. And there tends to be more than one guy around the ball. So if it gets batted in the air, someone's going to be there. And I think he benefited from that. Got it. Well, before we we let you off for the night we got to get to, we want to hear your prediction of what you think this this final score is going to be in this game.

47:06 Oh, final score. Wow. Well, weak ones are crazy, aren't they? Like they are, you just don't know what to expect. I think like a lot of South Carolina fans were like very aware that like this is a powerful matchup. And I think when I personally look at tech, like you guys got screwed against Miami and there was one or two other games that like you very well could have been on the other side of. So maybe you underperformed a little bit, but it's a team that could have had seven or eight wins. So. And, you know, on top of that, the two new coordinators like that scares me because you just don't know what the heck you're going to get. Like, what kind of film is there to study really, especially your defensive coordinator, Like, what's this guy's deal?

47:51 Like he was just a linebacker's coach. Like like he really just like hired A linebackers. Like he never was ADC, right? Like I, I. No, he was. He was a. DC at Wofford LO Mighty Wofford, of course, yeah. But like. Nonetheless, no we disrespect to. Wofford so, but if you look at actually his what probably would have happened the COVID year he had taken Wofford, they won the Southern championship basically we're top 15 in defense in FCS three straight years. And the crazier part, when we were looking at that tape, y'all, it was with a three man front. It was with the four man front. It was what one of them was like a like a three, three stack. So it wasn't the same defense those three years when everything broke with COVID.

48:36 I think where he was probably in his career, I think he was probably about to make the step up, but COVID completely screwed up FCS season. He got a call from the Minnesota Vikings. Do you want to be an assistant linebacker's coach in the league? He's from he's from Wisconsin area. He if you want to know a little bit more background about him, he GA for Dave Aranda, you know Baylor's head coach, LSU defensive coordinator when they were he was an absolute stud there. And then when you go to Minnesota, he was with Mike Zimmer for a couple years. There is a story that they were going to basically him linebacker month, linebacker coach, money to be an assistant, linebacker coach. He didn't want to do that.

49:20 He went to he went to Arizona to be the linebackers coach. So that is his background. So good to know. Good to know. So, yeah, I mean, that like kind of scares me. Like that's just there's just not a lot, a lot of tape for South Carolina to go after. So I think this game is going to be kind of a slog in that first half. Definitely that first quarter. I think it's going to be tight. I don't think any, I think it's going to take a while for these teams to to feel each other out. I do think South Carolina finds its groove. I do think depth wins out. I think some of the continuity on defense or excuse me, on offense for South Carolina wins out. But I do have it right around in that spread 38 to 30 Carolina. But I think it's going to be a good one. And I mean, I hope it's greater for South Carolina, but that's that's what I had it as a while ago. So yeah, it should be a good one. That's awesome, Tim.

50:17 Well, we, we really appreciate you joining us tonight. It's been a blast. I'll let you guys if you guys want to say anything before we we let Tim kick out of here. Cox on Cox baby. Y'all know the name? I appreciate you guys. Thank you, Tim. Fine. It's been. Yeah, thanks. For bringing the heat, bringing the info, man, Yeah. Appreciate you too. Y'all be good. Yeah, so take care. All righty, so that was Tim Cox from Cox talking game, Cox podcast. Kimber up the heat, man, I know a little bit more about them. I know and that now I know what to be. Go ahead Tal, you about to say something? I was just going to say I pray that I can be as excited as Tim is about my team in the coming years. That man is excited.

51:03 That's how, that's how that's how I want to feel going into the college football season. I don't feel that way right now, guys. We had a taste of that last year. Then it got. Taste of that last. Year right out of our. Hands I don't want I don't want to think about it. I don't want to think about last year. Well, we. We also are a lot, well, Shelton's not as old, but Shelton's been a college fan for a long time, like. We got we got to play the game, man. We got to play the game. We have to play the game. Yeah, that's how we should have felt. Put that up there. I think this and what I like when he made that point of those close games, you want to fly into those close games. If you win a few of those close games, a few people don't probably get fired. Right.

51:47 And so. Maybe a few people that should have got fired wouldn't have got fired. OK. So either way, appreciate them bringing the heat. You got a lot more names and stuff. Again, the one big thing that like for them did I think, I think it's in the back of Tim's head somewhere. He's just not trying to hide it is that is a lot of talent lost on defense that played, that played majority of the snaps. And it's not, it's not saying there's 6th and 7th rounders, TJ Sanders 4th rounders, Immunori second rounder, damn near 1st rounder, 9th, 3rd rounder, Kinnar third rounder and those guys.

52:32 And we've seen an attack, right? We've seen a bunch of guys get drafted all the the next guy's going to be OK and they ain't as they're not bad, they're just not as good. And we just know how that feels. Let's talk about, I mean, you, you, you look at a 2017 to 2018 transition and yeah, yeah, that's, that's basically what happened on that defense. Now they're covered was a whole lot more full behind those guys than what we had. But from a talent standpoint, it was a very similar degree of loss. There you go. That's a good way to put it. All right, so we got a lot more to unload. We 50 minutes in. And again, I wouldn't take that away from nothing because I think Tim gave us an educational South Carolina. It's going to help me know names, numbers and all that fun stuff.

53:14 But if y'all were not aware, over the last few weeks we have been running little ads saying you can win a ticket to a concert the night before the game. Well, we earlier today, I shouldn't say we Brian earlier today got all the emails, all the names, put them into a randomizer, click the button and we have a winner and it is Jay Largon is the winner of the concert. Tickets to the AOAR concert this Saturday. Brian actually got to connect with Jay real quick at coach Jay Largon on Twitter. He is going to the game. So the tickets are going to be used.

53:57 We appreciate all of y'all for just putting your just put it in the tweets out there, following it, clicking on the links. It was a great opportunity for us to get that from the Hokie way. Yeah. And while we're at it, you know there there's still tickets out there for sale. Be sure I I know we got it down there in the bottom, but go to thehokeyway.org/concert and if you use boundary corner one word at at check out there, you'll get 10% off that ticket order. So if you're still looking for tickets, you're heading to Atlanta, you want to go to this concert that's. What you got to do do it All right. Couple real quick hitters. Y'all probably saw this. Divine Diablo is going to be the honorary captain. Love seeing that tally.

54:43 You had to love the Instagram drop with the jersey reveal the other day. Oh man, I like Waffle House even more than orange. And that's, you know, that's hard to do so. Are you a Waffle House connoisseur, though? Are you? Man, listen, I used to the old I've got. I can't eat everything that I used to eat. Like I get sick, but I still will go to Waffle House and get me a chicken and cheese omelet with a waffle on the side. You know, I'll get my hash Browns, throw a little onions in there. You know what I'm saying? Like Waffle House is just, I don't think I've ever been. Let me tell you about Waffle House and then I'm going to be done. I know we got to go on.

55:26 You got to see some crackheads at Waffle House. Like you can't go to Waffle House and people be, you know, have a, they can't, they need to live in a trailer. You know, they need to not have all their teeth. I went to Waffle House one time and the dude cooking my food had a Waffle House arm band on. I knew the food was going to be good. I knew it was. He had a shooting sleeve on like Carmelo Anthony and he only had three teeth. And I said, that's the one that I want cooking my food because I know it's going to be greasy. I know it's going to be clogging my heart up a little bit, but I know it's going to be the best food I've had.

56:07 And I wasn't drunk. I was sober as can be. I heard you either have to have a black belt or be a meth head to work at Waffle House. You got to be, you got to have a little bit of drug use to work in Waffle House. You know, that's just what you got to do. Somebody's got to, it's got to be a fight close. It ain't got to be inside, but it's got to be a fight close outside. Somebody in the back on the phone, We need to see a little bit of crackhead activity for that Waffle House to be buzzing. So if y'all ain't been to Waffle House, if y'all don't know about Waffle House, Waffle House. Hey, man, lose, lose a little bit of money.

56:48 I know, I know some of these people got money, man. They probably, and I'm an IHOP guy too, but you know, Waffle House, that's what it said. Waffle House, is it all righty? So we're going to get into telling some truths here about the depth chart. But before we do anything about the depth chart, we got to tell the truth with all the news. It's people are it's been up here 3 or 4 times about Caleb Woodson. If you have not been under a rock or if you have been under a rock today, excuse me and you have not seen the news what happened? And you just you just oblivious to everything. Caleb Woodson on Saturday night did get Adu or excuse me, a DWI charge so. You know, everybody's like Ricky Leblu's comments. You didn't see Tally's comments.

57:44 Tally's comments was better. But just what are y'all, Shelton? I'm going to throw it to you first because a, you, you worked as an Sid. You know, there's those rules. First of all, what is going to happen this weekend? Just your prediction. Tell the truth. What's going to happen this weekend? Yeah, with them. With Caleb Woodson. Yeah, I mean, I don't have any doubt that it'll play. I mean, with these things, normally what you do is you sort of, you know, you, you pass it off to the university, university handles it because if they're you've got their own policies, the athletic department has their policies. So you guys wait and see. And then, you know, they they do the they do the thing in court and whenever they adjudicate that, then they'll, you know, dish out some punishment. So I don't expect much will come of it from a, from a, you know, a, not a disciplinary standpoint, More so like, you know, this is not going to be a, you know, lengthy suspension. Obviously it's not, it's not even a felony. It's a, it's a misdemeanor.

58:45 So, but they'll probably, you know, handle it internally. He's already been removed of his captaincy and Price said that he has the opportunity to earn it back, which I would imagine would take a while. But I think they're probably just going to be pretty lean about this. If they do a suspension, it'll probably be against Wofford maybe for half, I don't know. But I would not expect any sort of, you know, harsh handed disciplinary measures outside of, you know, internal stuff that they, you know, they they don't let that punishment with within the program. Tom, I'm. I'm going to let y'all go 1st. I'm going to go last. Oh, you're going to go last. I'll go next. I'll give you the brown.

59:25 We'll, we'll go. We'll go this way. How much help? And I don't think anything happened this weekend. You've got to let it go to court. And also Class 1 misdemeanors. There's with Virginia Tech, there's 4 levels. There can be a suspension, but usually it's a warning, some sort of other disciplinary action. Suspension is the 4th one on the list. It is the highest one on the list for a misdemeanor. And I know ADW is nothing to play around with. That shit can get people killed and to what some of the other people said, but we all have been young and done stupid shit at some points in our life. I don't think he's going to be suspended if they do anything. Maybe he don't play the first series. That might be it this weekend.

1:00:10 Like we we took your captaincy away. You're not going to play the first series. You will not be out there and then put Thomas's thing up here real quick. Brian. I see it in the right corner. And we don't know quite this yet. We don't know what it is, does it? It does not make a difference. But that might go down to like fleeting and stuff. But I think he's playing and and people can, you know, try to get on a high horse or something. But I think I know what Tally's going to say a lot. I'm not going. I'm going to leave that silent, Brian. No, you say whatever you want to say. Oh. No, no, no, no. I know what Tally's going to say. I know. What he's? Going to say, I'm going to work around with what I know Tally's going to say. What I'm going to say is this.

1:00:52 So when you look at a misdemeanor and when you look at what we've seen historically happened with these at Virginia Tech, but also when we look at A, at a grander scheme of how these things kind of play out elsewhere, I don't think there's a chance that he doesn't play in this game, whether he ends up sitting at a series or a quarter or what we or whatever it may be, that that would be the most I could foresee happening. I think he plays in this game. I actually think he plays all four quarters. And I think at some point this season we, you might see some additional disciplinary that results from, as Shelton said, the university process playing out for this. But I I don't think we're going to actually see punitive action taking from a playing time standpoint. You got to let the justice system do his job first before anything, because we don't we beat the stupid. We be the stupid program that he's going to sit the whole game and then they drop the charges when he goes to court. And it'd be like, why'd you they drop the charges? Why'd you wait down it?

1:01:58 Light it up. No, I mean, that's that's that's what it is it it depends, man. Like there are some things that a college student can get in, some things anybody can get in that would warrant, Hey, I need you to be away from us. You know what I'm saying? Some things that rhyme with grape, stuff like that, any kind of, you know, harming somebody, things like that. Now I'm not taking anything like that. Somebody can get in as far as legal action or legal, you know, ramifications, things like that. But he's been asked 90 million times on here. And then and then we got to address it because that's what we do. We going to tell the truth on here all the time. Whether you like it, whether you don't like it, no matter who likes it.

1:02:42 Somebody posted on, on, on, on X today, Ricky Labeaux, the blue, whatever his name is, he goes on there. And no disrespect to him, I think he's a good guy. I've had some interactions with him, but he goes on there and he just goes in talking about if the coach has any spine, he should do this. First of all, we don't come to your fucking job and tell you what to do because I'm sure you do some shit at your job is probably ain't right because I know I do. So we don't go to nobody's job and tell them what they should and shouldn't do, what it is. You ain't got a spine. Balls too big, too little, whatever. We ain't doing all that. But this is what I can say. There are things that people try to use football coaches to be more than football coaches.

1:03:25 There are some football coaches that are huge in people's lives, and I'm not taking that away. This nowadays, more than anything, is treated like a pro system. There are that there's pro ramifications to what's going on with these young men. You got to let the justice system do their job. As an American, I've seen it plenty of times where police pull somebody over, beats the shit out of them, punches them through the window, shoots them, whatever the case is. And I'm like, Dang, that looks like it was bad. And then the first thing I see on social media, somebody says, well, we don't know all of the we don't know all of the details.

1:04:07 Let's figure out what's going on first before we make a decision on this. And then on the other end, you got these people that just want to, you know, throw some kind of bait out and say, oh, this happened because it is. We don't know the details. We don't know what the substance was. We don't know exactly what happened. Neither do I care. All I know is number one, that ain't his daddy y'all talking about. He should be the the do this. And if he's trying to raise me and he ain't fucking raising nobody, he's a football coach that ain't winning no games. He has lost more games than he's won. He better put the best players on the field and try to figure out how to win. Taking the C away. Great. Good job, Coach Pryor.

1:04:48 I don't blame you for that, but this is what I'll say. You better put the best players on the field to try to beat South Carolina because Shane Beamer going to be on your ass and the rest of the fan base going to be on your ass. So if you sit him because of that, you might as well sit yourself because you're going to put yourself in a position to lose. Back to what we talking about with Caleb. Now back to that situation, fans got to calm down. This happens all over. Not saying that it's right, but I've heard from some really, really good sources that there's some investigations being launched about how that stop went down. So they're targeting those kids. They're going to do that because you got kids in Blacksburg driving $90,000 cars, $60,000 cars. There's some police.

1:05:35 I heard he wasn't even from there. I heard he was from 30 miles away, but whatever. Again, I'm a dude in Alabama. I don't know nothing there. You got some people. And I'm not saying that it's racism. Sometimes it's placism, like if I'm a salesperson, which I am, and a new salesperson comes in and they are getting paid more than me, I'm going to be a little salty. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times these cops look at these kids to come in, they know they're getting NIL deals. They seeing what they driving these bins is these hellcats and things like that, and they got a problem with it. So they going to target them, they going to follow them. Not making any excuses for anything a kid does. You got to be held responsible for what you do.

1:06:15 That's why we have a legal system. Ricky, you ain't the legal system. Calm. You're nuts, buddy. Sunday is going to be a game on. Watch the game. If you want to protest watching the game because somebody's playing, protest. Go watch tennis. They play tennis sometime, too. I live by a pickleball court. It'd be a lot of people out there playing pickleball. Go watch them play. I'm just saying, man, that's how I feel. I had to get my rent out. I feel better. Curtis, reel me back in. I know I had to let you go because what you said the, the, the statement you made about where football coaches nowadays are, they're not. Some are father figures, you're right. Some are. Some really are. Some want to do things.

1:06:56 But to your point, it is now a bigger game. It's about money. It's about it's like, like like you said, college football is no longer collegiate. College football and basketball are professional sports teams. You don't see the head coach running out in NBA or the NFL, right? To your point, he's got people out there he's got to lean on and I think he's got to learn a lesson from this. And I think the Cabinet sees one thing, I think probably going to courts going to be another one, so. When we think about it from a professional standpoint in the NFL, they don't preemptively. Hell no. Unless. You got to be convicted. Unless the deed is very crucial like Tally. Was I?

1:07:40 Got a good they don't. Preemptively put somebody. On a bench. I got a great question for you, Sheldon. I know you might be a little young on this, but you do your research, so you probably know. I think Bobby had a spine. Bobby had a pretty good spine. He didn't make Peter sit down. Did he make Peter sit down? Peter was stealing that shit out of the store, wasn't he? Or getting it for free. Somebody was giving it to him. Did he? Did he make him sit? Or did he play in the game? And whoop my ass by yourself? I'm just asking. If it weren't for him, things have been different. If he had a spine, if we go by what was on X and he had a spine and we make him sit, we pay.

1:08:22 History might be different, you know what I'm saying? We might be with this curse, might be gone. I'm just saying hey, sometimes, sometimes you got to do what you got to do to win. Have y'all watched? The mid game run that Mike had, I mean that might that might have been enough to seal it without Peter coming back and doing his thing. Have y'all ever watched the game the movie Blue Chips? Oh yeah. Chad, I know y'all. I know y'all. Have. Oh, stop. Hold on. Sheldon's never seen it. Shelton, you go to bed or what are you doing tomorrow? You need to take two hours of your time and watch Blue Chips. Blue Chips Man 30. Three years ago. Great movie. OK. Yeah, and I will say I, I, I agree with Ricky in theory.

1:09:05 I would like to live in a world where athletes dealt with consequences just like regular people do. But that's not the world we live in. And so you're just going to play by play by all the rules that everyone else is playing by. So. Yeah, at that point if. Everybody else is cheating. You might as well cheat too. That's. Kind of. But it's got to be if we're dealing with rules, let's deal with them how everybody else deals with them. The justice system should handle it, right? All of the everything has to come out. Let's figure out what's going on. 1st. Did we plant something in the car? Was he on the edible? Did he smoke a little weed? Did he drink a beer? Guess what, we don't know. So fuck it, let's wait till we know before we find out there. You go all right real quick.

1:09:47 I want y'all to give me one tell you truth on the depth chart that whether you feel good about it, bad about it, won't prepared for it or or or what we're not going to do what we can do better next because we figure out that next week with this shit that with the depth chart. I was not prepared for Montavius Cunningham at right tackle. I'm going to jump out right out the gate and let you know I was not prepared for Montavius Cunningham at right tackle. I don't hate it, but I was very much not prepared for it. So I will say that one. I agreed. Agreed. Although that tape we saw from two years ago against LSU, it was like that kid can play right tackle.

1:10:31 That's why I said I don't hate it. I, I, and I'll piggyback on that, I hope I'm not taking anybody's not seeing Muskrat in any of those two deeps at the AT offensive line also swings me in the other direction. The musty rat. All right, Sheldon, what about you? Feel good, feel bad Shot. I don't know. It's hard to tell with how many ORS there are in the in the chat. I mean, I don't know. I feel like they they intentionally tried to be as ambiguous as possible. I don't know. I mean defensive, defensive end. I mean, I feel like John can we kind of knew he'd be a starter. It seemed like Arias Nash wasn't quite as I guess maybe productive as it would have, would have you know, liked.

1:11:16 So he's a little bit a little bit further down. Bell and Burgos will be an interesting battle. I've been pretty high on Ben Bell from what from just from what I heard at camp, but it seems like Burgos is kind of challenging him as well. So I think I think that'll be interesting. I think there's a lot of there's a lot of like, you know, really solid, but no like true elite standouts on the on the defensive line. So I feel like I'm just interested to see kind of how that battle plays out because I think they've got some pretty good depth. They're much more than they had last year, but no like true bona fide star, like an APR. So I'm interested to see that. Anything shocked made you happy made you sad made. Man, you know how to, you know how to depth charts be. I'll be finding it. I'll be finding it humorous. Like Josh said, man, they was rowing a boat with all them ORS. They was in the canoe with so many ORS in that running back room.

1:12:01 It was ORS everywhere. I'm like, what is him or him or him? They don't know, man. They just put the stuff out there. Y'all want a depth chart? I feel like the coaches got a sense of humor. They like y'all know what? Yeah, they they want a depth chart. Watch this. Watch this. Let's just put it out there so we don't know who. Only thing I know about the depth chart is that if he's healthy, which I think he is, Kyron Drones is the starting quarterback. Everything else is subjective. I don't know. I don't know nothing. So I'll say this, the, the, the, the right and the Rimac and Cunningham switch had because everything we heard and remember, we had, we had DC on here six days ago.

1:12:42 Cunningham, who'd seen that stuff in person was like, every time we've seen it, Rimac's been it, right? Cunningham's been. Asked the question now, we asked the question in a different context. We were asking whether they were, you know, the tackles were swapped. We didn't realize that the guard and the tackle were getting. The guard and the tackle were swapped. Curtis, you got some people. I was going to say, yeah, you got a lot of people asking and talking about Selden. What you think about that? Well, the whole thing we got to think about what we're going to if if Montgomery has even 65% of the way he used to run tempo, everybody that's on that starting wide receiver depth chart, they're going to be in there because we're going to be running tempo. We're going to be running fast.

1:13:26 You got him as the slot back up and Takihi, we know Heath is a gadget guy a little smaller, sells the exact opposite of him. Yeah, sells huge. So I'm with you. Like some of it just don't matter. Some of it they just mess it with the song. Now I'll say this. What did catch my eye and I thought to Brian about it was go to defensive end and Bell and Burgos and and Yonko. Not shocking, right, right. Elijah Fall the transfer portal guy Elijah falls not your typical defensive end. Elijah falls 63288. That's a that is saying we're there's going to be some three man fronts and he's probably going to be running the base in or they're going to be something.

1:14:11 What is it? Brian running like 2 eyes and he'll play directly over a tackle as A5 tech and then let junk them because they we've been hearing Ben Beller and Virgos. There's two guys standing up a lot. There's two guys always standing up. Sometimes Ian has the fan of the dirt. I think I see that. But as far as everything else goes, it's like like people are saying, it's a good thing to have, gives us something to talk about. Yeah. And I mean, we still don't know, you know, exactly what, at least against South Carolina, what what base front we're going to come out in. I think we kind of assume it's going to be some variation of a of an even front, but to be determined. Well, I'll say this though, what I'll go. Ahead, I'm putting this up, Randy. The first was a speeding ticket.

1:15:03 Yeah, you can have a reckless driving speeding ticket. That's not a second offense, DWI. That's completely different. Completely different. So no, Josh said. Josh said he was surprised to see Takai, but he knows he's a ball if he's healthy. I ain't gonna say I was surprised, but exactly right, Josh. Like I wouldn't the game last year at Vanderbilt and I kept saying and I was singing it from the mountaintops, like why can we not get this kid the ball? He was so much quicker and faster than the rest of the wide receivers that were on the field. I would say probably Jay Lane was the only one that kind of had the same twitch as I did see Takei have.

1:15:47 But again, things happen during the year, people get banged up. I think he thought about leaving the team for a little while or maybe did leave the team for a little while. But whatever the case is, they've said he's had a great fall and he's he's a, he's a talented player. I just hope that this year he he puts it together and it's very frustrating to a player that you know your ability and you know what you can do and you're on a team that is not producing, not winning. I say that and you can't get on the field. So a lot of times these kids or these young men get frustrated and you know, they either going to pursue other opportunities or they want to know why I'm not on that. So I was asking the same thing last year, but I'm excited to see Heath get in the in the mix.

1:16:36 I hope that we get to see what he can do because I really think that we haven't seen somebody in a phone booth like him. You know what I'm saying? We had a couple of wide receivers that were really good wide receivers last year. But I think that him getting off the line and I kept seeing him put him in motion and I'm like, man, he's fast. But we just never got to see that translate to even a play. I don't even say a big play to a play. So Josh, great, great look when you when you talked about him being that slot because I didn't even think about that. But I guess that's probably what I was surprised that just that he was listed there, but I'm excited that he's listed there.

1:17:19 Lovett is effectively starter is, as is Caleb Brown. You know what? And some of this shit might be there to motivate people. Like they may know, like, yeah, I'm I'm the one. It's like, you know, you ain't nothing yet. We ain't played a game yet. All right, one thing before we turn on, we're going to get into Hokie Keys next and then make our predictions. One thing I was so happy to see because I do not think this is a lie. Tucker Holloway punt return that man Dangerous. Well, yeah, Tucker's good, dangerous. Hate it when he went down last year. So to see him back out there, man, he's he's to say that he is more special to me now. No disrespect to Jay Lane because Jay Lane was a very, very good player. Think he's going to have a long NFL career. Tucker being at punt return, it's special. He's just, he's just a different type of punt returner, you know what I'm saying?

1:18:09 Kind of fearless back there. Just works hard, has the long strides when he runs and you go back and watch, what was it, Georgia Tech, that he took one back? Is that the game somewhere around there anyway? Not last year, yeah, before last. But anyway, seeing Tucker back in that punt return, in that returning position, think it helps us out a little bit. You look at punt returning, so like Jay Lane was the guy that's going to break that first tackle and then run away from people. I feel like Tucker, he's got that kind of vision and kind of sees how things are set up and just knows exactly where to go. And then that's where his talent is. And like you said, Tally, once he gets that, that acceleration up, he's got those long strides and it's hard to catch him at that point. Percent all right, so let's flip off here. Appreciate y'all all the comments in there, but we do need to talk about what we feel are going to be to the keys of the game from the Hokie side and Sheldon just goes Sheldon goes quiet of time.

1:19:13 So Sheldon, you get to kick us off. What is going to be the key for the Hokies to pull the wind? Yeah. So I said for me, I said protect drones, you know, specifically with regards to trying to limit, you know what, what Stewart can do again, we talked about, you know, his pass rush numbers, 51 Kiwi pressures last year. That was fourth SEC and of the top six SEC pass rush pressure guys, five of them are now in the NFL. Obviously Stuart being the one exception. So this is a bona fide legit NFL talent. He's going to be going up against, as you said, Montavas Cunningham, who again, we have we didn't see last year. So we don't know what he is capable of. I'm a little bit more concerned about the left side of the line than I am the right side of the line.

1:19:56 But still, I just I have some concerns about their ability to protect Kyron. I feel like if, you know, we saw, we saw last year with, you know, Karen, but constantly, you know, under pressure, seeing ghosts, you know, potentially getting hurt, I just think that's a bad, bad thing. You know, my biggest thing is pass protection, keep him protected in the pocket so he can make some throws and scramble out there and get some get some runs in. Cali. Yeah, no, what Sheldon said is, is really good. I don't, I don't even think I hit on this when they were talking about it earlier, but Karen is, is a lot like or whichever one's older him and sellers are very much alike. So how excited they are about Sellers? I'm as excited about Kyron because I've seen his potential. You know, I know what his ceiling is. I don't want to say I know what ceiling. I know what can be, which is the NFL guy. I feel like Sellers can be an NFL guy. I don't know where he goes.

1:20:52 Kyron can be that as well. But it's all about protection. It's about sometimes if you do have a lack of talent in certain positions, you have to coach that talent that you do have up. So it's going to come down to two people coaching, 2 Staffs coaching and that's why I say my key to victory is going to be management and time management and adjustments. I think Tim talked about that a little bit when he talked about their DC maybe taking a little too long to adjust. Well, we had ADC that didn't adjust at all in the second-half, so we made an adjustment and got rid of him.

1:21:34 Thank the Lord couple of people are gone. So I'm hoping that this staff, it does a much better job with the time management and their adjustments. Because to beat A-Team, even if you're punching a little bit above your weight class, you got to do some things strategically. It doesn't always have to be talent against talent. You know, talent does wins you some games, but coaching wins you some games as well. Pry has to prove that he's the guy. This is a game that he can prove it. He was close against a, you know, a couple of people that Miami game. If he takes that game, that's a signature win for him. If he wins a game like this, it's a signature win for him.

1:22:16 He needs that for him. You know what I'm saying? Because if, if, if pride doesn't make this work. And I'm, I know I'm not trying to go too far, but if pride doesn't make this work this year, what does he go? You know what I'm saying? Like if, if, if he doesn't make this work and then he doesn't, you know, put together a good like his resume doesn't look good. Who hires him? The school of the blind and deaf. I mean, where's he, where's he where? Seriously? Like, where does he go from Virginia Tech if he doesn't make this work? Because what we talk about and what Virginia Tech fans know of him, the rest of the football world knows as well. Look at Justin Fuente.

1:22:58 Yeah, he got paid, but he still ain't no head coach no more. And I mean, once you've been a head coach, I feel like you want to be a head coach, you know what I'm saying? Maybe he doesn't, but I don't know who. Let's probably be a head coach if he doesn't make this work. And I think he has the ability to be a head coach, but he has to prove it, starting with that. Time management, my boy, you better get that time management right. Use them timeouts, right. Call Shelton if y'all don't know what the the time frame is. I mean, he owns. The chart. He got the chart. College, Bryan, is it? Bryan going to. Tell us, I'll talk next. Let let's let's have a little conversation. So picture this, it's last year.

1:23:39 It's late August. You know, you're in Nashville. You you've been drinking a couple days. You've been having a good time. You go to this this stadium and it's it's hot. It's hot as hell. And you're sitting there and all of a sudden you come out and you see your team and the offense goes up there and it doesn't really look like the offense that you expected. And, and, and, and you, you kind of scratching your head like, what the hell are we doing? So my key, don't be something you're not, don't, don't go out there and try to be something you're not. Play to your strengths as an offense. Play to your strengths as a team and let the chips fall where where they may. I mean, I, I think they are, you know, top to bottom a more talented team, but that doesn't always matter, especially week 1, especially when you got 2 new coordinators that they can't really prepare for. So don't be something you're not. Play to your strengths and let the chips fall where they may. You may should have went last because that was better. I went to analytical, my first one because I talked about him with with Tim, you got to neutralize Kilgore. That kid can pick balls off.

1:24:48 He can make tackles. Don't make him part of their game. Basically get rid of him. And I know some people say Stewart, well, you know what Stewart is like, It's you can run away from him, run at him. You can do some things there. But with this kid, he's playing the nickel. Avoid him, avoid running to his side. The second one is this, and for them last year, turnovers were a big thing. In their nine wins, they were like plus 16. In their losses, they were -5 basically they lost the turnover differential in every single game they lost last year.

1:25:30 And I think for the Hokies to win, it cannot be on the plus side. If it's the plus side it's a 2 score win for them. If it's even we got a punchers chance if we can just steal one possession once. If we steal 2 that's when you start getting into the good shit because you start stealing 2 possessions. OK how much when the turnover battle? Because in the games they lost, that was a struggle for them. They made those turnovers, they lost possessions, and they lost some close games. Last year, they got blown out by Ole Miss. The other three games they lost were very close games. And I'll be honest, SEC fucking gave LSU that game last year, LSU, they gave LSU that game down South Carolina straight up. So that's mine.

1:26:22 All right, Well, we come to the well, almost the end, but we now got to make our picks. Who wants to go first? I'll go first in Prof fashion. close game. South Carolina gets to win. I got 2128. Got to be 1 score. One score game, I got it. That's what I got. What about you, Sheldon? Yeah, I'm going to go 3124 Cox, but I'm actually I'm actually going to go back door cover or well, I don't know if it's a cover, but it's going to be a back door one score loss, which would be very unfortunate, but I just. Feel like that? Don't score the last touch. Yeah, yeah, I'll. Prize out there?

1:27:03 No, no, Neil. Neil. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know it'll be it'll be tight game, lots of unknowns on both sides. But I think sellers is probably the the difference maker in this one. All righty. I'm sorry. Your turn, Sir. My turn all right, I'm going to do it. We're going to do a bit all right, so this is the bit until Prow wins A1 score game. Every fucking prediction that I'm going to have on here that's against the power 4 opponent is going to be a one score loss for the Hokies. So I've got 3330 Cox in this one. OK. 3330 Cox I am also I am also I have also picked in South Carolina 3324 He will not lose the one that she came to them.

1:27:59 It will be the one point above it and the way I like my my, my head keeps playing it out like I think late game it's going to be, I think it's going to be AI think, I think what Cephas does and what Montgomery does are going to keep us in it. I do think what Brian mentioned about them being just a little bit deeper, I think they're going to hold on late. It's going to be like 4 minutes left. Shane's don't kick the field goal. We go up 9 and we aren't going to back door cover shelter. We're not going to do that. We're going, we're going. We're just not so. Yeah, so. Well, let me let me say this right quick before we go to the next bit. You see Randy's?

1:28:39 Randy's. Which one? Post there where he says if Penn State moves on from from James Franklin. James Franklin. Well, I ain't worried about that. I just want to see. Just show the fact that he called us Holies. Randy, you can't call us Holies when we playing the Cox Holies. The Cox ain't going to work good, my boy. You got to put that K in there. That K is pivotal in this point right here. Any other week might have let it slide. Autocorrect is whipping Randy's ass right now. We didn't. Know, Randy, we can't. We can't beat up by the way. By the way, something we did not well, it happened after we got off last week.

1:29:21 Randy King, former Roanoke Times writer passed away and it and they played the video you saw that did you see a Shelton? They played the Corey Moore video because Corey Moore loved Randy King to death. Hey, how you doing Randy after he's dropping F bombs on every national reporter Damage to? A man with everybody. Great attack. And how you doing Randy? How you doing, Randy? Sounds great. All right, well, that's our predictions. I'd love to see y'all. I know there's one in the chat. Let's put it up here. All right. Hey, Chris. Hey, good, Chris. How are we doing? Chris saying loves him kick a late field goal to give us a full touchdown win all right I like that all righty as usual y'all in this college football season.

1:30:06 We will be watching our beloved Hokies all season, but we partake in things, we watch other games and we always pick the big Screener that intrigues us. And yes, there is a game you're not going to see on here this week, so don't be shocked by it. A Because that line's all shitty and anytime it's a pick em game, it ain't fun to really pick. But we've all got our games that we got to focus on and it is very ACC flavored because we are scheduled to play three of these four teams and I'm starting with the first one and we're going to Boulder Friday night. Georgia Tech who is every they are Virginia Tech this year in the ACC what we were last year, people got them all dark force. They could win 11 games.

1:30:57 OK, cool. Well, they're going out to Boulder and they are A5 point favorite on the road elevation change. Dionne probably got something to prove without without Shidur back there. I don't know who's going to win the game, but if you give me a home dog with more than three points, I will take it all day long. Give me Colorado, Shelton, what do you got for this one? Yes, I'm checking GTI. Honestly don't really know why too many too many unknowns with Colorado is probably the probably the biggest thing.

1:31:38 But yeah, I just I'd like I like I I really like bring Pi think he's I think he's made of the right stuff. But it is interesting you bring up the point of like, you know, this kind of like the BTC from last year, like will Georgia Tech have a similar, you know, underperformance or regression that, you know, we saw with BT? So just interest says you that. Callum. Georgia Tech. I'll tell you why after I picked a couple other games, but Georgia Tech. There we go. Brian. I'm going to go with, with Colorado here. I'm kind of with Curtis on, you know, I mean, Dion's coming off a cancer scare. He doesn't have Shudur. Like he's got a lot to prove in in this year. I think he's going to have them ready to play. And with the altitude change, you know, Georgia Tech probably top to bottom on that roster, probably better. I like, I like what what Brent he brings to the table, but I think there's just too many other factors at play in this one for that five line at home for Colorado. All right, who's next?

1:32:47 Tally, Tally lead us all. Alabama and Florida State Castellano's been doing a lot of talking. You know, Alabama's in the second year with their head coach after the GOAT has retired. I am saying, though, Florida State is going to cover. Think they're going to lose, but I think they're going to cover now. I'll tell you why did I say that? The same reason I said the first one, because we play Georgia Tech and we play Florida State. Both of those teams are going to look good in the first week. So I have to hear about how bad they're going to kill us. That's what I'm going to hear the first week.

1:33:27 Any team that we play is going to look good or compensated and they're going to say, man, when we play them, they're going to kill us. That's what I'm going to hear on on X all freaking week. Florida State's going to probably lose by 7 points close game. And then people's going to talk about how Florida State's back and they also Georgia Tech's going to go out there and whoop Colorado and people going to talk about how they win in the ACC. That's what happened here all week. So hey. Tally. I love it. I love it, Brian. I've got Alabama in this one. I I really don't think Florida State puts the pieces back together. I definitely don't think they put them back together week one against Alabama.

1:34:10 I don't care if it's in Tallahassee. I I don't care about these other factors. I think Alabama's going to take care of business. It's not going to be, it's not going to be a huge, huge win, but I think it's going to be be those two scores that they need to take care of it. All righty. I'm kind of with Tally on this one, by the way, Big screen is presented by Moments on the Mor, our wonderful sponsor, I think. I thought she's going to cover. I think it's going to be a much tighter game than people think. I think it Castellanos hadn't ran his damn mouth so much they might could have pulled the the dub. But I think I think you're right, Ally. I think pegging this game is somewhere like a touchdown game. And is it cut late or is it you know, Bama just holds late? I think 13 has to and again it is a home dog, home dog land 13 and a half Shelton.

1:35:09 Yeah, I'm going to take a slight MSU cover. I would have if this game was played under Dick Saban, I probably would have taken Bema 10 out of 10 times. But I just not the same team, not the same program. And I do think people are probably under selling FSUA little bit. So I'll take I'll take FSU a slight cover. All right, Shelton, you're up next. Yeah, so I went with Notre Dame, Miami. Interesting matchup. Carson Beck making his Kane's debut against the the reigning. Well, I guess CFP runner up from last year for this one, I went with Notre Dame. I just trust Freeman a little bit more and I don't exactly know what what we really have in Carson back given that he was obviously playing for really talented team last year they lost some weapons.

1:35:51 So I'm a little bit more confident in Notre Dame than they in Miami. Kelly. Yeah, I'm taking Notre Dame as well. Like Sheldon said, I kind of just trust Freeman a little bit more than I trust Miami. I've started to go with my same logic as I use with the other teams, but that that line so close, it's almost to pick them so they can still look good and people going to talk about how they going to kill us too. But Notre Dame, I think taking this one. I guess that leaves me up next. I'm taking Miami here and it's really this is all about line. I I think there's going to be some solid play on both both teams here.

1:36:36 But you know, 2 1/2 home dog. I'm I'm going to go with that in in this instance here. I I think they're just too evenly matched overall for to go any other direction. Yeah, and, and I'm the same way. Give me a give me the, give me the underdog at home and just I feel like. CJ Carr got. You know, is the quarterback at Notre Dame? I just, I think Riley Leonard was just a perfect piece for them last year. Tough runner, smart kid. And I don't know, can you can you recreate magic 2 times in a way in a row? So yeah, I, I, I think, I don't know who wins. I think the whole thing is I just want to be enjoying this game with a victory beer on Sunday night.

1:37:20 Me. Too. Because if not it's I'm going to be in a pissy ass mood till at least half. Time. I'm with you. I've got you. Ron, you got the last one where we go. We're so we, we've got the, the Tigers of Death Valley Bowl here. We got LSU, Clemson, Clemson, you know -4 at home there. I, I'm riding with it. I, I feel like this is a program that I think is kind of put the pieces back together a little bit. And I think this might be a, a year where they can make a little bit of a run. So give me Clemson in this one down there at their home stadium, the other Death Valley.

1:38:05 Yep I'm I'm taking Clemson as well. I'll lay the four points. Clemson wins by 7. Good game on Saturday night. Look forward to getting comfy and watching it, not be in a pissy mood. Yeah, I saw, I saw a stat the other day that LSU has I think has lost four or five straight season openers. So for no reason, Brian Kelly just does not have his A game, the season opener. So I think I'll take Clemson. I like their coaching staff just a little bit better. I just like to cause controversy so I say LSU. No reason why besides that. Just want to be different and be wrong. He wanted to be different. He is born of the tiger Eye underneath his name. Yeah, Tiger Eye. Well fellas, we got to the end of the first episode of the season.

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