The Hokies are set to start their 2025 campaign in Atlanta in the Aflac Kickoff Game against the South Carolina Gamecocks. Storylines abound but the most intriguing is Shane Beamer facing off against his alma mater and the school where his dad became a legend. We look at this revamped USC team to see how the Hokies can pull off the upset. We also announce the Countdown to Kickoff Giveaway winner and give our Big Screener Picks of the Week.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
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with my partners, Brian Siegler,

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Jonathan Talley and Shelton
Moss.

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Gentlemen, we have finally made
it.

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Week 1, man, Week 1, it's been a
long time coming.

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It has been a long time coming
and I mean it looks like so much

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going on in the chat tonight I
believe.

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Oh man, we already jumping in
the chat right?

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Everybody jumping in the chat
free Caleb we going to talk

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about that?
Oh man, people feeling good

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vibes hey.
I got a question right quick

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before we get started on on some
serious stuff.

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Yeah.
Was that was the intro song

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longer today than normal?
Because I feel like I was

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sitting here for like 10 minutes
waiting to come in.

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Maybe it was anticipation.
Tally is ready for Week 1.

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Tally you're.
Ready on that one.

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Use that word ready loosely like
that.

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I don't know about ready.
We going to see after the night

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how ready I am.
So we got a question here

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because my child had baseball
practice till 9:00 tonight.

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Yeah, didn't leave the child at
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I not good parenting so.
I mean, you can, it's, it's just

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not advised.
I mean, CPS might be showing up

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or something at some point, but.
They may be, but you know, all

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good Shelton.
How?

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How's life, man?
It's been good, man.

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We're going to be pretty busy
this week.

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Students are back at least.
I wouldn't marry tomorrow.

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I know obviously they're coming
back all over the country.

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So this is kind of time where,
you know, campuses become lively

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again, unfortunately or
fortunately, depending on how

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you look at it.
But but yeah, it's gonna get,

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we're gonna get going here.
Right, Right, right.

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In a few days.
Hopefully you don't have a

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Saturday night at Sharky
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Not go there.
It's too soon, too soon, right?

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All right, well, real quick, we
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We do have a special guest to
kick off the show doing things a

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little different than we
normally do.

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We're going to start with Know
the Enemy because we got a

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special guest.
But real quick before we get

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into that some I'm sure some fun
back and forth.

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We get in to tell the truth
Tuesday as we tell the truth

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about the death chart because it
looks like a full of a lot of

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lies in my opinion in stealing
that from you Tally and some

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other people that use it.
This is like really heartfelt

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because you don't want to see
anything bad happen to anybody.

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And if y'all were not aware,
have not seen it.

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Gamecocks defensive line coach
Trevian Robertson was involved

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in a pretty bad car accident
last week.

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I I think he is in stable
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Got a long way to go.
But you know, it's a game.

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Something like this happens.
It it, it does, the game's still

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going to be played.
They going to hit each other,

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they going to try to win it, But
you see something like this, you

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know, prayers up for him and his
family, entire Gamecocks

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community concerning that
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event.
So again, shout out on that.

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And well, Brian, let's go ahead
and bring on our guest this week

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is from the podcast Cox Talking
Gamecocks is Tim Cox.

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Tim, Hey, how you doing this
evening?

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What's going on fellas?
Thanks for having me.

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Anytime, Tim, thanks for joining
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So you know, we were chit
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not get to ask you, you asked
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Give us a little bit.
How did this start?

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How did your podcast start?
Where you from, what you doing?

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And are you going to the game
Sunday?

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Yeah, appreciate it.
Well, First off, that's a

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beautiful shout out.
You had to coach Robertson,

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obviously very tough situation
for not just him, but the other

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family that was involved.
So yeah, anyone who's out there

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sees Gofundmes definitely
support that.

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But yeah, so Cox talking
Gamecocks.

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I mean, obviously my name kind
of works with the mascot of our

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of our team.
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in 2015 and you know, that was
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big time college athletics and
just absolutely fell in love

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with it.
I was a sports management major,

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so just like really dove into
every aspect of it there.

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And afterwards, after you
graduate, it's kind of that one

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tangible thing that you and your
buddies can still talk about and

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you can go to the games and just
kind of stay connected through.

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So any chance I had, I would
talk Gamecock sports to whoever

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would listen.
And I think the passion only

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grew the farther I got away from
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And then, you know, we had our
Will Muschamp era, or error, if

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you will, and then brought on
Shane Beamer as a head coach.

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It was just on the heels of
COVID where, you know, I was

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like, you know what, if we're
going to try and shake things up

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here and chase a passion,
there's a new chapter in

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Gamecock football, so let's go
for it now.

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So I've been doing it for going
on Year 5 now, which is crazy,

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but it's been a blast.
I'm on Twitter as Cox Gamecocks

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and Instagram Cox talking
Gamecocks.

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I do shows twice a week, Mondays
and Fridays, and try to keep

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them nice and brief and fun.
So yeah, that's, that's me in a

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nutshell.
But I've been, I've been looking

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forward to this.
When you all reached out, I was

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like, not only am I raring to go
for Week 1, but I'm raring to go

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to talk some smack about the
Beamer Bowl and I'm ready for

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this one.
Man, you brought up the Beamer

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Bowl that that's got me, that's
got me having some, some feels.

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All right, First thing we got to
talk about what what, what

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colors, what logo is Frank going
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Y'all are not going to want to
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He's going to be wearing
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I, I'm, I'm calling it now.
I mean he's been down in

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Columbia multiple times wearing
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I'm sure you're vomiting in your
mouth right now, but I foresee

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him in garnet in black.
Maybe he'll put on a a Virginia

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Tech cap, but who knows.
It's.

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Going to be like like one of
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that are on both teams.
They got like the split.

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Jersey, I could see it.
I can see the split or maybe

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just like a nice neutral color
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just completely unaffiliated
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How you feel about that?
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team on.
I don't know which one is going

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to be, but Frank gonna have to
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We're going to find out a lot
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It's going to be great.
About about what Frank going to

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do.
But I kind of feel like he going

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to have Gamecock stuff on.
That's just how I feel.

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That's blood, man.
I mean, represent representing

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his son.
You know, I feel like that's

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what it's going to be.
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he might have put on Southern
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but being neutral site, he's
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other Gamecock fans and family.
So that's just that's my

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prediction right there.
Frank, if you listening to this,

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you better show it with some
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You got a statue sitting in
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You better get down the road
he's in.

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I took a picture with that
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We did take a picture with that
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It looked like it looked like
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a statue.
It's.

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Close enough.
It's close enough.

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Yeah.
It's in the ballpark.

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You know who it is?
Yeah, we know who it is.

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It's.
It's better than some statues

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and things I've seen in the
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Some of them are just God awful.
But but let's let's get into it

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because obviously this is your
team.

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This is the team you focus on.
So we've got quite a few

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questions we want to ask and I'm
going to lead it off and I won't

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talk.
We're going to start on offense

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and I won't talk about Mike
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look at it, you got Mike Schuler
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coach, you know, former NFL
coordinator, you know, worked

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there with Cam for a few years
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And last year he was brought in
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offense.
Now my question is, was this

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effectively Lamoris is built
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Was this strictly for that?
And was the always move to OC

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going to happen regardless
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Was it Dow all right?
Yeah, Dow Loggins.

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Dow Loggins, who went up to at
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Was that the plan from the
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I don't know if it was
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I mean, I think Shane would have
loved to have kept dabble on,

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you know, things started to
really click with with them and

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especially that last six game
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I think it was a natural
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Like, yes, Shula has experience
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Cam, but he also has experience
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briefly.
He like he will name drop Daniel

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Jones.
I'm not putting him anywhere

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near my quarterback.
It's, you know, a guy.

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Subject.
That's the sore subject.

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So yeah.
So I think when you had, he was

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the on field assistant for
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So the guy who was talking and
sitting down with Lenoris on the

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field when the bullets are
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And so I think you're able to
keep some synergy between maybe

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some of the terminology, knowing
some of Lenoris's tendencies.

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And I'm pretty sure Lenoris gave
it a glowing review and a green

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light when the decision was, you
know, more or less finalized,

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like, hey, we're going to do
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But I just felt like it was a
natural transition where you

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didn't have to overhaul the
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And, you know, I think we're all
cautiously optimistic to see how

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it goes.
Well, I'm hoping that it goes

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bad because I'm from Alabama.
Sure.

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And I'm used to Mike Shula being
Alabama's coach, and that is not

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something you want to talk about
in the state of Alabama.

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Did not go well.
So if I can see something like

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that happen, You seem cool, Tim,
but I want him to do bad.

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But anyway, we going to go to
the next.

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We going to go to the next
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Talking about your quarterback,
which everybody kind of knows

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him.
If you haven't heard about him,

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probably haven't been paying
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Lenore Sellers getting a ton of
hype this offseason, which is

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warranted kind of.
Could you tell us a little bit

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about him and what you know of
him and what you know kind of

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what we expect for him from him
in this game?

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Yeah, I mean Lenoris is we're
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If you he he was a guy that when
he came in, you know, was

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recruited a little bit under the
radar, was actually at one point

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committed to your in state
rivals Virginia and we were all

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excited about him.
We knew he had all the ability

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in the world and what you saw
last year was really his

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maturation and realizing some of
that potential where those first

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four or five games he was
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It was battling through some
injuries, but once he was able

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to stay on the field and develop
and get those game reps, you saw

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it all come together.
He's big, he's fast, he's

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physical.
Everyone loves to talk about his

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ability to escape the pocket and
run, which is incredible.

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And there's a play from our game
against A&M where he just truck

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stick to dude to get the first
down so he can do all that.

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But I think what's underrated
about him is his passing

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ability.
Like last year he had some

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fantastic throws, but you could
tell he wasn't quite as polished

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as maybe you'd want your SEC
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So that's where I think Mike
Shula is going to really help

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him.
And what they've really preached

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this year is working on the
footwork, knowing when to tuck

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and run instead of having to
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So I think you have a real
possibility that Lenora Sellers

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can be a top two or three
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football this year.
And, you know, we're all kind of

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holding our breath.
You know, we haven't really had

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something like that in Colombia.
Like, you know, we had Spencer

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Rattler recently.
He had his good moments and his

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last year in Carolina was really
good, although the winds didn't

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really stack up.
You got to go back to Connor

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Shaw as a guy who really was
that warrior for the Gamecocks,

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but more of a college
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didn't really have that
necessarily pro ability, but a

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guy that just won a ton of
games, bled Garnet and black.

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But Lenoris is kind of that
first time that we're looking at

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this like, holy crap, we might
have a top overall quarterback

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pick in our locker room right
now and a guy who's going to

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give us a chance in every game.
So I know I just went on for a

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little bit, but if you can't
tell, we're we're we're pretty

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excited about Lenora sellers
around these parts.

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Well, you, well, you should be.
I mean, last year, what, 65%

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completions, 18 to 7 ratio.
You know, rusher over 500 yards

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and he's A and he's and he's a
big guy.

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It's not like you're going out
there.

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I mean, was HE63240?
He's a.

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Big guy like that, what about
I'll?

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I'll ask this because he played
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All but one game last year.
Yeah, he sat out one game due to

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injury, but he got knocked out
of the LSU game, which was a

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heartbreaker for South Carolina.
And you could just tell he

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wasn't 100%.
And, and some of these other

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ones earlier in the year, I
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where he came back.
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where he was like fully healthy
back from recovering from the

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injuries.
And so those last six games that

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Carolina won all in a row was
really when he was fully healthy

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and acclimated.
What was the injury last year?

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I mean, you know, it's like us,
you can tell us.

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Well, Kyle Drum was hurt like it
was his foot, then it was

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shoulder and his knee is
everything.

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What was that particular injury
early in the season last year?

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It was a high ankle sprain.
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So it, it lingered.
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quarterback who was relying on
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the season, you know it it, it
was tough, but, you know,

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managed through it and, you
know, came out on the other side

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better for it.
Well, let's talk about the

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biggest news for the the
Gamecocks this week.

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Rasul Faison.
Let me know if I'm pronouncing

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that correctly.
Got got approved by the NCAA for

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a new another year of
eligibility it seems.

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He's like 46, get a job.
Yes, it it seems that a lot of

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this is contingent upon, you
know, what judge you get, but

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all these guys train for, you
know, four or five teams in

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their career.
But that's just the way things

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are today.
So well, I was looking at his

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PFF stats.
Obviously he was very well rated

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in the running game specifically
seemed like he struggled a

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little bit with run blocking
last year.

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But you know, for the most part
a pretty good runner has some

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good after contact numbers.
Tell us about his game, what

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what him being eligible will
provide for the offense that

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maybe they wouldn't have
otherwise if he was off the

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field.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, that was a that was a
hell of a countdown we had with

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the NCAA, like, you know, and
brief history, like I don't

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think many people have glowing
reviews of the NCAA, but it just

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feels like for South Carolina,
like you always get the short

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end to stick with these rulings
where I was convinced he was

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going to get cleared, but only
after the game with y'all.

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So we're all very excited about
that.

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I mean, the running backroom as
it sits without him, I had faith

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in, you know, even without him,
it's three or four guys deep,

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guys with experience.
Name you're going to hear a lot

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is Oscar Attaway.
He's now going to be that really

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RB2 more likely.
But Faison was a guy that the

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coaching staff were really high
on kind of penciled him is an as

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an RB one.
I think he's a violent runner He

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can make a guy miss can run
between the tackles just as well

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as going outside.
But I think when you're really

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going to see his value is
catching and in those short

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intermediate passes, those those
screens and things like that.

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So his run after the catch
ability as a running back I

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think is really exciting.
And just now it's that much more

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deeper of a running backroom.
So he's been practicing under

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the assumption that he's going
to be cleared.

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So I don't see necessarily this
drop off in usage, but there

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might be a little bit where
maybe a guy like Addaway or a

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Fuller goes a little bit more
than maybe normal.

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But yeah, we're all really
excited for Sewell and what he

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brings to the table.
Let let let me ask this because

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I think the one thing that I had
for for Mike Shula's offense is

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Mike Shula's pro guy.
Usually most pro guys are 5050.

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They're going to try to balance
it out.

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You you look at the data from
last year, you know y'all were a

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6364% run team versus a 30% pass
team.

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Do you have a pause for a second
that could they, and we know how

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this goes because this was us
last year, Could they try to

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push too much pass early?
Because we're trying to get

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Lenore's to go to the next level
to get ready and effectively go

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away from the bread and butter,
go away from what works early in

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the season because we're trying
to make him an NFL player.

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Is does that fear?
Because you know?

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Effectively, we saw it happen
with Carmen Jones last year.

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They tried to make him a pocket
pass for what he wasn't and you

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saw some of the results we had
until finally they decided to

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switch it back.
Yeah, you guys are great.

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First off, you guys are coming
out with stats that like I

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haven't even looked at like we
got, we got ratings and things

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like that.
So kudos to y'all, but it's a

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good question.
Now, I think some of that 65

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split that you had was you do
have a young quarterback and you

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have to lean on, you had a guy
in Rocket Sanders last year who

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was one of the better backs in
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So you're going to work what's
what's cooking for you.

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And the wide receiver corps last
year was pretty thin and rather

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inexperienced.
This year, the wide receiver

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corps returns basically all the
the main guys from last year in

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the 2 deep.
So you have that.

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You have experienced tight ends
as well, brought in a good tight

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end transfer from Kentucky, and
you have a bunch of exciting

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freshmen wide receivers as well.
But the offensive line has a lot

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of continuity and is set to be
improved.

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So all that to say, I think you
probably see a more even split

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of run pass.
Something that South Carolina

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always has wanted to do under
Shane Beamer is control the line

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of scrimmage.
So they're going to be stubborn

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with the run regardless.
And with Lenoris, like yes,

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they're trying to get him to be
a more complete passer, but

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you're not going to get away
from his strength and his X

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Factor, which is his legs,
right?

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So I guess to answer your
question, like I'm not too

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worried about them forcing the
issue with having Lenoris air it

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out a lot because of the depth
in the running backroom.

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If they have to turn to that,
they will.

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Got it.
And, and, and you mentioned

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about the, the receivers and
stuff because you know, your

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leading guy last year was a
tight end, Josh Simmons.

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I mean, 40 receptions, just over
500 yards.

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And you know, looking through
it, I'm gonna throw some names

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out here.
You tell me who you're most

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excited about.
So you've got second receipt.

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Lead receiver last year was
Mazzio Bennett, Junior.

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And then some of the other guys
you've got Ventrilus,

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Ventrilvius, Jacob or Have
Mercy, somebody.

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We're very familiar with Nick
Harbor because he's up from the

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DC area, so the DMV.
But out of all those, Jared

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Brown is the only guy that you
guys are potentially in your two

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3D because we got to consider
the slot now part of it.

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So we used to talk about two D4D
wide receiver.

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Wide receiver is 6 or 7 deep.
Now you got Jared Brown who

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transferred from Coastal has the
most career yards out of all

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those guys.
He he's the only guy that has

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1000 yards career that you're
bringing back.

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So they played some last year,
but it's not like they exploded.

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Who are you excited about?
I mean, it has to be Nick

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Harbor.
It has to be he was getting

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better and better as the game
went on.

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Now the thing with Harbor is, or
as the season went on, excuse

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me, but the thing with Harbor
was he was A2 sport athlete.

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He was splitting his time
between track and football, and

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when he was in high school he
wasn't really a wide receiver

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full time, right?
Like I could be mistaken here,

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but I think he played some
defense, maybe even tight end as

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well.
So he's still pretty raw as a

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wide receiver.
This offseason he made the

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decision to not pursue track
anymore.

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So he has a full spring under
his belt.

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The reports out of campers that
he looks great.

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You have to be the most excited
about him just because of his

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physical abilities.
Now, I really like Mazie O

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Bennett.
He was a big recruiting win that

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the Carolina Gamecocks got, was
pretty consistent for them as a

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true freshman.
And if he can take up his game

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to the next level, I think
that's someone who could be a

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difference maker for you as
well.

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But those those four guys that
you listed off like, yes, that's

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the core that we're hoping to
collectively take a next step

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because behind them it is a
bunch of freshmen, albeit, you

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know, talented, but still
freshmen.

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So I like, I like Harbor and
Bennett to take big steps

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forward this year.
And in order for them to have

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big years, you are going to rely
on that offensive line.

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And you're looking, looking at
the offensive line, it looks

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like 11 starter returning from
last year, Josiah Thompson.

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You had a tree bobble lady
returning that played some in

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2023 but then redshirted last
year.

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In 2024.
You had a couple other guys mix

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in from the from the transfer
portal.

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What what is the biggest concern
for this offensive line given

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that there's not a ton of
returning talent from last

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year's team?
So I'm going to Fact Check you a

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little bit on that case.
And Henry was the starting right

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tackle.
He is also returning as well.

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And you also have a guy Trovon
Bo, who played a lot his

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freshman year, maybe quite you
know was in and out of the

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rotation, but he played a lot as
well.

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Then you're bringing in Boaz
Stanley from thinking

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transferred in from Troy.
Yes, thank you.

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Yes, so there's a this is the
most size and athleticism that

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Shane Beamer has had on that
offensive line in his tenure.

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And the offensive line has been
an issue for South Carolina.

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I mean, I you could probably go
to the majority of college

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football fan bases and they'll
say this has been an issue, but

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it kind of feels like put up or
shut up time for this line.

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So looking at guys like Josiah
Thompson, Tro Tree Case and

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Henry Staley, then you got Nick
Sharp.

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There's a couple of guys here
who could be plugged and played

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in.
They cross train and it's a,

445
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,360
it's a pause because it's been a
not exactly a strength for South

446
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,200
Carolina.
But this year the hope is that

447
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,000
they're they're a little bit
more experienced collectively

448
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560
and they can go and at least get
out of the gate a little bit

449
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280
faster than they did.
Hope that answers the question.

450
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Good.
Where's the battle?

451
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Because we've named 6 or 7.
But where's the battle?

452
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,560
Where's where you mentioned
Tree?

453
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,680
Because I think Tree played
right tackle along with Haston

454
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,760
some last year.
Is that the battle right now?

455
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,040
Is that the one that if as hokey
fans start seeing it, that you

456
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,640
might see both of those guys
play off and on?

457
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,800
From everything I've seen, yes,
it's those two guys and I I

458
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,600
think Kayson might have the
inside track for it.

459
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,880
Tree is he's a he's an
interesting case.

460
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,480
He's really good.
Like he played his freshman year

461
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,360
and I thought he would have been
a shoe in to play last year, his

462
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,840
sophomore year, but he can play
tackle, he can play guard.

463
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,960
So that's a guy that you can
look out for as just he can go

464
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,680
anywhere and he's a massive
human being.

465
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,800
On one of the interior guard
positions, you have a freshman

466
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,640
who's trying to battle his way
there, Shed Sarat and he's

467
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,840
battling.
I believe it's with Nick Sharp,

468
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,440
who is a transfer guard as well.
So there's a couple, but I think

469
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,760
for the most part you're looking
at Kason Trovon, Josiah Staley

470
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,480
and Sharp.
But it's going to be interesting

471
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720
to see what's that depth chart
is officially released, which

472
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,240
I'm hoping we get in a day or
two.

473
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Y'all aren't getting one by the
way they said it today.

474
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Yep.
I can't remember who it was now

475
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,040
it was I'm assuming y'all did
media day-to-day down there and

476
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,440
someone said with the media
notes no depth chart was.

477
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,400
So he is that scared of Virginia
Tech coming off the 6th?

478
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,120
And so, no, so that's the,
that's the media notes.

479
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,160
Shane Beamer had pushed
everything back a day this week

480
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,760
because the game's on Sunday.
So normally he does the normally

481
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
he does the he does the press
conference on a Tuesday, which

482
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,640
would have been today.
And I think he's doing it

483
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,440
tomorrow.
So I'm thinking tomorrow or

484
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Thursday we'll have a depth
chart.

485
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,520
But I predict there's going to
be a lot of ores on it.

486
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,560
He doesn't.
He doesn't keep it like too too,

487
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,760
you know, strict.
Yeah, yeah, ours came out with a

488
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,720
bunch of ores as well, so we're
going to shake that out a little

489
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,800
bit later in this episode.
We're going to talk about.

490
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,120
Our depth card I'm.
Sure, a little later, a lot of

491
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,040
ores I've heard it's.
I've heard it's thin.

492
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:36,600
That's all I've heard Thin.
Necessarily thin.

493
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Just a lot of ore, all right.
Less.

494
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Certainty positions we thought
were maybe more certain than

495
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,360
they are.
We'll see.

496
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,320
It's all gamesmanship.
Like especially Week 1, it's

497
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,800
it's all just gamesmanship.
Well, hold on, y'all got to go

498
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,960
look this up because if you're a
college football fan, go look at

499
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240
what New Mexico Lobos.
Have y'all seen that yet?

500
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,720
I just saw that, yeah.
Did you see that?

501
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Shelton?
Go look it up if you get a

502
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,600
chance to him tonight.
Yeah, It's it's hilarious what

503
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,560
they did.
Is it they're it's I don't want

504
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,200
to spoil it for you.
You're going to laugh.

505
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,760
You're going to laugh your ass
off.

506
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,440
Let's get over we we, we we
talked about the offense hit all

507
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920
the burning point.
Shelton Moss kick us off on

508
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,200
defense, man.
Yeah.

509
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,400
So first of on defense, let's
talk Dylan's talk talk.

510
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Dylan Stewart obviously had a
great year last year, 51 keeping

511
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,120
pressures total, which is 4th
best NSC and we'll talk about

512
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,360
him later on the podcast as
well.

513
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,400
So my question to you is, you
know, on a scale of 1 to Nedama

514
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920
can sue, how concerned should
Hokies fans be about this case?

515
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,240
He looks at me like he's got
elite physical tools, maybe a

516
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320
little bit undersized, but
obviously you can't deny the

517
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960
results there.
How, how dangerous is he and how

518
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,240
do you think he will, you know,
maintain his effectiveness

519
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,960
without a guy like Kyle Kennard
on his opposite side?

520
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,680
I mean, you, you guys worry
about the Sandman every game.

521
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520
This Dylan super might as well
be the Sandman for you guys.

522
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
I would I would be I would put
him on the scale of 1 to

523
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Jadavian Clowney.
That's where I got him this

524
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360
year.
He is everything you want to be

525
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,040
in your all American all SEC
potential D end.

526
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,840
You know, you say maybe a little
undersized, maybe he looked a

527
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,400
little skinny, but he's now
another year or you know, really

528
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360
two off seasons now, but a now
another year bigger, faster and

529
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640
stronger.
He's going to get a lot of

530
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,200
attention like naturally.
And yes, we can talk about the

531
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,240
loss of Kyle Kennard, who
Nagurski award winner like that

532
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840
helps anyone who's opposite to
him, but Dylan Stewart has that

533
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640
game breaking ability.
Speaking of Clowny, he was

534
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
mentored by him a little bit in
this offseason.

535
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,520
Just what to expect going from
year one to year 2.

536
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,560
He has his sights on all of
those accolades that Clowny had,

537
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,200
and while I do expect him to get
some extra attention from

538
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,760
offensive lines, I think he is
good enough to take over and

539
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,680
have his moments.
But at that same time, does it

540
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520
open up things on the other side
of him where a guy like Brian

541
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Thomas or JT Gear who can go in
there opposite of him and create

542
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560
some plays?
So I'm so excited for Dylan

543
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,920
Stewart.
Like as much excitement as we

544
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,080
have for Lenora Sellers in the
offense, like I'm just as

545
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,920
excited to watch Dylan Stewart
this year.

546
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,760
And it's a lot to put on one
guy, but he has all the ability

547
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,520
in the world.
Yeah, absolutely.

548
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200
And I love what you said about
the Canard thing because that's

549
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,120
always my big question.
When you guys have when they're

550
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080
younger and they have good
seasons and you look at the

551
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,720
opposite side and it's Canard
drafted high.

552
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520
He was an elite edge guy last
year.

553
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,840
How does that take away now when
he goes in and now it's like,

554
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,920
listen, you're not getting
one-on-one against the lesser of

555
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040
the tackles.
You're going to get chipped.

556
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,720
You're going to get a Brian
Siegel here was a guard in

557
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,520
college.
That guard is going to throw

558
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,840
this fucking elbow right into
your ribs, get you set to get

559
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400
him back into set to stop you.
Are you ready for that Now?

560
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800
I'm going to go here and Sheldon
wanted to jump in with Dylan

561
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Stewart, which we completely
understand he is.

562
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,520
He's the face right now for
y'all's defense.

563
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,560
But let's talk about the DC,
let's talk about Clayton White.

564
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Y'all run a 425 y'all, y'all run
that.

565
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,880
And he's been to South Carolina
for I think since Shane got

566
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,080
there, right since Shane got
there.

567
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,680
What's the just the feel on him
as a coordinator is, again, we

568
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,080
don't watch a lot of games,
North Carolina games, but is he

569
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,520
heavy blitz?
Is it zone?

570
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Is it a mix?
What do you see from him Sunday?

571
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Potentially setting up against
the Hokies?

572
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,640
Yeah, it's, it's a great
question.

573
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,680
It is funny to see if it almost
feels rare nowadays.

574
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,240
I mean, I, I, you guys can
probably understand like just in

575
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,560
general college football like to
have a coordinator stay for five

576
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560
years now, it feels rare and it
feels like guys either get fired

577
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,720
or they take the first head
coaching job that gets offered

578
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,520
to them.
And Clayton White has had a

579
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,800
couple of, you know, bites.
It seems like a potential head

580
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
coaching gigs at smaller
schools, but has decided to stay

581
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400
in South Carolina.
Had one rough year, but came out

582
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,000
through the other side of it.
But yeah, you said 425.

583
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,320
He's he's going to play a lot of
man.

584
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,720
He lets his guys man up, go on
islands and he's going to let

585
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,680
that front four that, you know,
front six with the 425 go to

586
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800
work.
So in an ideal state, he's

587
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,360
rushing 4, maybe 5.
Not a ton of exotic blitzes and

588
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,920
things like that from him.
But that's why the defense last

589
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,720
year felt so successful because
you had such a strong defensive

590
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,000
line that they could go to work
and disrupt the passing, you

591
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,400
know, just on themselves.
This year the experience is

592
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560
mainly in the back end of the
defense where you have a really

593
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,640
strong, you know, core group of
defensive backs.

594
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
So I'm expecting him to do more
of the same man coverage, let

595
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,200
those guys do their jobs on
Highlands.

596
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,600
And it's funny, I think it could
be a deal where without a guy

597
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,400
like a Kyle Canard or ATJ
Sanders in the defensive tackle

598
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,280
position, at least in this first
game, it could be a lot of like

599
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,440
coverage sacks that you're
trying to get where the D backs

600
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,920
are, you know, playing, playing
well, doing their job.

601
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,280
And you're gaining that extra
second or two for a guy like

602
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,360
Dylan Stewart to get off that
double team and then get home.

603
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,080
But all told, yeah, that's
that's that's Clayton White.

604
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,760
They're pretty good at making
halftime adjustments.

605
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,000
All told.
I am a fan.

606
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,360
What's that like halftime
adjustments?

607
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,320
Dude, it's weird sometimes.
Sometimes we'll say he waits a

608
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
little too long though, you
know, like that's that sometimes

609
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320
could be the knock on him.
But it is going to be

610
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,239
interesting to see there.
There's no denying that there's

611
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,760
talent that needs to be replaced
in that front group of guys,

612
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,240
linebackers especially,
defensive tackles especially,

613
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,880
and it's going to be interesting
to see how this coaching staff

614
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,840
works with that.
I like the talent there.

615
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680
It's just a matter of can they
produce on the field, you know?

616
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,280
Yeah.
And before we pivot back to that

617
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,200
more experience back and let's
let's pivot back over to the

618
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,720
defensive line a little bit.
Kind of look on the interior, we

619
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
we, we kind of circled Nick
Barrett as a name to watch on

620
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
the inside of that defensive
line.

621
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,400
But if there are there some
other guys that we should be

622
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
looking out for and what do they
bring to the table from a skill

623
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
set perspective?
Yeah, great, great name.

624
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,920
Drop Nick Barrett, a guy that
we're all really excited for.

625
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,160
He is experienced.
He's going to he's set to fill

626
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,840
the shoes of that leader in the
defensive tackle group.

627
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,960
Two more names for you all to
watch here.

628
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Monkell Goodwine has been with
the program for a couple of

629
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,480
years now transferred in from I
believe Alabama two years ago.

630
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,240
But a guy who has played some,
you know, little bit by little

631
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,640
bit and really that story of
development and now it's his

632
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,240
time to start and he's going to
start opposite of Nick Barrett.

633
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,080
I I expect, and that's the name
I would keep out for another 1

634
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,280
is Gabriel or Gabe Brownlow
Dindy, a former five star

635
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160
recruit who transferred in this
past year from Texas A&M.

636
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Never quite lived up to that
five star potential, but that's

637
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,240
a guy who's experienced.
I like to spin it for these

638
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,640
transfers.
It's like, well, at least they

639
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,280
got SEC caliber coaching, right?
Like this isn't new to them.

640
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,000
So like he's a guy that if he
can put it together, he has the

641
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160
size and the physicality that
you look for.

642
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,600
There's a couple other guys, you
know, who you're hoping can

643
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,520
develop and, you know, show up
on the field, a guy like Pikes

644
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,600
who transferred in.
But I'd say good wine, Barrett,

645
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Brownlow, Dindy, those are your
big three there in the defensive

646
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,920
tackle spot.
Yeah, moving up from the, I

647
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,800
guess the defensive line going
to the next level talking.

648
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
I know you talked a little bit
about kind of linebackers and

649
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,920
hoping those guys take a next
step, talking about, you know,

650
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,960
the next guy who is, you know,
taking over for a beast that you

651
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,600
guys had in night of, yeah, Fred
Johnson, which most, you know,

652
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Virginia people know.
Thieves, Thieves Virginia.

653
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,600
Has been very good to the
Gamecocks lately.

654
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,800
Yeah, yeah, we it's been lovely.
We've been.

655
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
We've been good to Y'all.
We've been good to Penn State.

656
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,560
We've been good to Rutgers even.
I mean, we've been good to

657
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
everybody, man.
Sorry, Tally.

658
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Sorry, Tally get hit a nerve.
What are you talking about,

659
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,760
Fred?
All good.

660
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Yeah, just just talking about
Fred and kind of, you know, I

661
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,120
know a sophomore this year,
great, great player from high

662
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,720
school that again, a lot of
Virginia fans know, Virginia

663
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,280
Tech fans know.
So kind of speak on him and what

664
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,040
you know of him and will he be
starting for you guys.

665
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,440
Yeah, I do expect him to start.
I'm excited for him.

666
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,600
You know, he played meaningful
snaps last year as a freshman

667
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,320
and was a guy who you would just
hear about every now and again

668
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,960
in these press conferences as a
guy that's impressing the

669
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440
coaches as a young player.
You know, he did a lot on

670
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,640
special teams as well.
But I expect him to take that

671
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,440
next level and be that leader on
the defense.

672
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,440
You know, I he, it's funny, you
mentioned Demetrius Knight.

673
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,160
There was also Debo Williams,
though.

674
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,760
He was, you know, in their
shadow a little bit.

675
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,440
So the plays he made, these
other guys were right around

676
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,680
with them.
And you're kind of, you got your

677
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,160
eye kind of on them a little
bit.

678
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,840
But alongside him, there's a few
other guys that, again, you're

679
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,880
hoping can take that next step.
A guy like Sean Murphy, who just

680
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
transferred in, and then Jaron
Willis.

681
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,880
Yeah, we know.
That name too.

682
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,440
We know that name too.
Is he another Virginia guy?

683
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,120
I know he transferred from like
Bama Florida State but.

684
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,720
Virginia guy that committed to
Virginia Tech for about four

685
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,720
months so.
Wow.

686
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,560
Alright, well, hey, you guys.
You guys have a good eye for

687
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,240
talent at least, yeah.
You know what?

688
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480
There's that.
It seems like if they don't come

689
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
back around to us, they're
they're heading down there to

690
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Columbia, so.
Yeah, it's, it's very

691
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,760
interesting.
I mean, like side note, like,

692
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,960
you know, part of the argument
is like for the Mid-Atlantic,

693
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,920
like the, you know, the DMV
guys, like South Carolina is the

694
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,840
closest SEC school.
But it's going to be interesting

695
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,560
to see with college worth of
conference expansion if how long

696
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,080
that holds true, whether it is a
Virginia Tech or an NC State,

697
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440
potential SEC expansion.
It's very interesting.

698
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680
I actually, for what it's worth,
I actually think Virginia Tech

699
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,840
would be a pretty cool addition
to the SEC, but that's, you

700
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,800
know, a different conversation.
We we hope so too.

701
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,280
It should've it actually
technically.

702
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,880
We've had that conversation a
bunch of different ways and

703
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160
obviously at this point,
anything that's not SEC or Big

704
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,440
10 is really kind of going to
get left out in the cold one in

705
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,920
the long run.
So it's interesting.

706
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440
One of those two, I mean, and
but with I will say with the the

707
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,160
new SEC mandate, if you will,
that these schools have to play

708
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,480
a Power 4 opponent once a year
outside of the SEC moving

709
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,960
forward.
It's going to be interesting to

710
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,160
see how that works.
So get ready to learn, SEC

711
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,280
Buddies.
Oh, we've been OSDC for a long

712
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,360
time.
Well, a couple things.

713
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520
First of all, we've already got
Alabama and on this on schedule

714
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,760
and South Carolina future dates
too.

715
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
So that's already been playing.
But college football and future

716
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,080
dates don't matter.
Worth a shit.

717
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Let me ask real quick on the
linebacker room because you

718
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,040
mentioned, you know, night, like
Tally mentioned he was a stud.

719
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,120
He was an absolute beast last
year.

720
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,680
You mentioned Debo Williams, but
y'all also lost Dan Martin

721
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,760
Scott.
Dan Martin Scott, you just made

722
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,920
the Panthers roster.
So so y'all are replacing a trio

723
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,160
of starting linebackers?
Yeah, yeah.

724
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Just just making sure that when
I was researching, I was like, I

725
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,280
know Knight.
I mocked Knight to the 49ers

726
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,480
like 14 times during the pre
drafts, all that fun stuff.

727
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,960
But Brian, he's mentioned the
back end.

728
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,840
Where are we going next?
Yeah.

729
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,240
I mean, you know, back in, you
know, you talked about that

730
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,360
being a little bit more
experienced, but you did have,

731
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,080
you know, one big departure
there with what Nick Emma Moore

732
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,000
looks like maybe.
Yeah.

733
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Yeah, looks like Peyton Williams
is going to be, you know,

734
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,440
sliding into that spot.
What can you tell me about

735
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,080
Peyton Williams?
What does he bring to the table

736
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520
at that position?
Yeah, it's funny.

737
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,240
Peyton Williams is a guy that's
really waited his turn and kind

738
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,040
of that old school guy who's
developed and waited his turn

739
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
and has done well with any
opportunity that he's gotten.

740
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,840
When Nick opted out, if for lack
of a better term, of the

741
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,000
second-half of our bowl game, he
slid in and performed really

742
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,320
well.
Whenever Nick was, you know, had

743
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,080
to be rotated out for whatever
reason the last year or two, he

744
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,880
was the guy that went in there
and performed very well.

745
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,760
It's it's a huge hole to fill.
I mean, there's there's no way

746
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,920
to dodge that, right?
Like, Nick did everything

747
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,680
borderline first rounder, but
Peyton Williams is a guy that

748
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,640
understands this defense and
he's going to understand his

749
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,400
role.
And when he's been asked to step

750
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,920
onto the field, he's tended to
perform well.

751
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,280
But really what it is is you're
asking Nicky Manori's, you know,

752
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,120
counterpart DQ Smith, a guy
that's played alongside of him

753
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,480
since they were both true
freshmen, to now really be that

754
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,680
leader in the in the safety
position where, you know, there

755
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,440
were a couple times in the past
he's been caught out of

756
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,000
position.
And Nick really never really

757
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
was.
So you're kind of asking him now

758
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,720
to OK, like you're a senior now
it's time to take that next

759
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,360
step.
But answer the question.

760
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,560
I have full faith in Peyton
Williams for sure.

761
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,280
And also, you know, there's a
guy, David Busey in the mix for

762
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,920
that, for that position battle
as well.

763
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Don't be surprised if you're his
name called Sunday as well.

764
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,240
Very nice and you're fluffing
information.

765
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,760
I love it.
I love it.

766
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,360
So I'm going to talk about.
This is this is hilarious.

767
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Like I thought, I thought we
were going to be talking like

768
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,720
game lines and Lenoris and how
we're we're talking David Busey.

769
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,160
Like you guys are awesome.
You guys are like, well, first

770
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,960
of all, we need to let you know
something about.

771
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:01,960
I'm gonna let you know something
about my three partners.

772
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,680
Shelton is an Sid.
Shelton knows his stats.

773
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520
He knows his data.
He's going to fire away.

774
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,920
Tally played tight end at
Jacksonville State back in the

775
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,760
day.
Football gamer Brian played

776
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,920
offensive line at Ham and Sydney
at D3 school.

777
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,040
But these we and I just love
football.

778
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,760
So although I have to say this,
in the last few years of having

779
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Shelton here, he has turned me
on some some wonderful stat

780
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,400
sites and got me into that
deeper and deeper.

781
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,360
So we bring the heat because we
want to know the players.

782
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,160
We want to know what to expect.
Game line right now, seven and a

783
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,280
half, eight points.
That's probably it might go down

784
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480
a hair.
It might go up yeah, but I want

785
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,680
to hit before I wrap up with
you, I want to hit one last

786
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,600
player because this is the guy
that I I'm I'm going to say it

787
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,400
later when we do a few things
about the Hokies.

788
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,560
This is the guy that scares the
Jesus out of me for your team.

789
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,320
OK.
And it is Jalen Kilgore because

790
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,080
once.
I.

791
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:07,720
Look at Jalen Kilgore and you
know, but he was a stud coming

792
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,960
out of high school.
He was a top 247 player.

793
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,200
That's.
Without last year he picked the

794
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160
ball off 5 times but only 40
tackles.

795
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,400
But then I did more research and
it was the year before he had 80

796
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,960
tackles.
So the guy can clearly tackle.

797
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,640
So give me some background here
because usually you don't see

798
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,920
that big of a gap.
Usually if a guy has 80 tackles,

799
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,800
they're in the 60 to 70 range.
Was there a change in what he

800
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,400
did last year or was it just a
change in what happened?

801
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Because he went from being a
tackling machine, which is

802
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,440
great, to be in a damn ball
hawk, which usually you put them

803
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,800
together, you're going to go in
the first 3 rounds of the NFL

804
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,680
draft.
Yeah, I mean, he's a beast.

805
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,000
You know, he he's he's been a
beast pretty much since he

806
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
stepped on campus.
He's a guy that's been asked to

807
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520
do a lot of different things.
So that might account for some

808
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
of that.
Just where they had him playing.

809
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
We're going to go deep in the in
the in the in the bag here.

810
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:11,680
So last year, so two years ago
when he had all more of the

811
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,320
tackles, Clayton White had to
make a little bit of a change in

812
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,560
the defensive scheme to go to a
335 because the the the defense

813
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,280
was just really thin, banged up,
couldn't generate enough

814
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,200
pressure.
So you had more guys sitting

815
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,960
back.
So you're going to have more

816
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,120
tackles that maybe it was like
the running back getting to the

817
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,920
second level and things of that
nature.

818
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,560
And the Gamecocks were giving up
a lot more quick passes two

819
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,840
years ago.
Last year, you're able to get

820
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,160
more pressures on the
quarterbacks.

821
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,360
And I think you had that front
7, if you will, doing a lot more

822
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,520
damage.
And then you would have normally

823
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
had or doing a lot more damage,
period, right?

824
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,960
So then you look at a guy like
Kilgore was able to just be in

825
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,920
coverage and do his thing and
stay on his man.

826
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960
So sometimes maybe not as close
to the action as he would have

827
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,920
been two years ago, but he's a
guy that can do it all for sure.

828
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Let me ask this to like showing
his ball hawk skills.

829
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Were there times last year where
people just kind of went away

830
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,920
from him?
He didn't get targeted at all in

831
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,880
in the defense?
Or was it more of that kind of

832
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,440
shift in philosophy?
I mean, I, I don't think guys, I

833
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,760
don't think teams went away from
him.

834
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,520
You know, there's a guy who got
drafted, O'Donnell Fortune from

835
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,440
South Carolina, who that was a
team that was a guy that guy's

836
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,320
tried to stay away from.
Wherever Nick was shaded guy

837
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200
stayed away from.
But I think with Kilgore, he

838
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,720
just has those natural instincts
and he knows where to be, you

839
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,560
know, right place, right time.
And just in general, that back

840
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,360
half of the defense is really
well coached by Tory and Gray

841
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,920
and they understand their jobs.
And there tends to be more than

842
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,240
one guy around the ball.
So if it gets batted in the air,

843
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,200
someone's going to be there.
And I think he benefited from

844
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,080
that.
Got it.

845
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,720
Well, before we we let you off
for the night we got to get to,

846
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,000
we want to hear your prediction
of what you think this this

847
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,760
final score is going to be in
this game.

848
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,800
Oh, final score.
Wow.

849
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,280
Well, weak ones are crazy,
aren't they?

850
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Like they are, you just don't
know what to expect.

851
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,160
I think like a lot of South
Carolina fans were like very

852
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,680
aware that like this is a
powerful matchup.

853
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,160
And I think when I personally
look at tech, like you guys got

854
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,520
screwed against Miami and there
was one or two other games that

855
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
like you very well could have
been on the other side of.

856
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080
So maybe you underperformed a
little bit, but it's a team that

857
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,200
could have had seven or eight
wins.

858
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,640
So.
And, you know, on top of that,

859
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,320
the two new coordinators like
that scares me because you just

860
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,000
don't know what the heck you're
going to get.

861
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,720
Like, what kind of film is there
to study really, especially your

862
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:51,760
defensive coordinator, Like,
what's this guy's deal?

863
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,760
Like he was just a linebacker's
coach.

864
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,360
Like like he really just like
hired A linebackers.

865
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,400
Like he never was ADC, right?
Like I, I.

866
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,800
No, he was.
He was a.

867
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,080
DC at Wofford LO Mighty Wofford,
of course, yeah.

868
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,200
But like.
Nonetheless, no we disrespect

869
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,760
to.
Wofford so, but if you look at

870
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,720
actually his what probably would
have happened the COVID year he

871
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,120
had taken Wofford, they won the
Southern championship basically

872
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,040
we're top 15 in defense in FCS
three straight years.

873
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,320
And the crazier part, when we
were looking at that tape,

874
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,680
y'all, it was with a three man
front.

875
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,800
It was with the four man front.
It was what one of them was like

876
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,080
a like a three, three stack.
So it wasn't the same defense

877
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,240
those three years when
everything broke with COVID.

878
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,960
I think where he was probably in
his career, I think he was

879
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,720
probably about to make the step
up, but COVID completely screwed

880
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:46,640
up FCS season.
He got a call from the Minnesota

881
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Vikings.
Do you want to be an assistant

882
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,920
linebacker's coach in the
league?

883
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,840
He's from he's from Wisconsin
area.

884
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,400
He if you want to know a little
bit more background about him,

885
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:02,800
he GA for Dave Aranda, you know
Baylor's head coach, LSU

886
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,880
defensive coordinator when they
were he was an absolute stud

887
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,560
there.
And then when you go to

888
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Minnesota, he was with Mike
Zimmer for a couple years.

889
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,360
There is a story that they were
going to basically him

890
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,240
linebacker month, linebacker
coach, money to be an assistant,

891
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,080
linebacker coach.
He didn't want to do that.

892
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,160
He went to he went to Arizona to
be the linebackers coach.

893
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,840
So that is his background.
So good to know.

894
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,720
Good to know.
So, yeah, I mean, that like kind

895
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,440
of scares me.
Like that's just there's just

896
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,560
not a lot, a lot of tape for
South Carolina to go after.

897
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,200
So I think this game is going to
be kind of a slog in that first

898
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,960
half.
Definitely that first quarter.

899
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,920
I think it's going to be tight.
I don't think any, I think it's

900
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,360
going to take a while for these
teams to to feel each other out.

901
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,760
I do think South Carolina finds
its groove.

902
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,440
I do think depth wins out.
I think some of the continuity

903
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,560
on defense or excuse me, on
offense for South Carolina wins

904
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,320
out.
But I do have it right around in

905
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,120
that spread 38 to 30 Carolina.
But I think it's going to be a

906
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,600
good one.
And I mean, I hope it's greater

907
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,280
for South Carolina, but that's
that's what I had it as a while

908
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,160
ago.
So yeah, it should be a good

909
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,480
one.
That's awesome, Tim.

910
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Well, we, we really appreciate
you joining us tonight.

911
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,240
It's been a blast.
I'll let you guys if you guys

912
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,240
want to say anything before we
we let Tim kick out of here.

913
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,840
Cox on Cox baby.
Y'all know the name?

914
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,440
I appreciate you guys.
Thank you, Tim.

915
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Fine.
It's been.

916
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,600
Yeah, thanks.
For bringing the heat, bringing

917
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,720
the info, man, Yeah.
Appreciate you too.

918
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,000
Y'all be good.
Yeah, so take care.

919
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,040
All righty, so that was Tim Cox
from Cox talking game, Cox

920
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,440
podcast.
Kimber up the heat, man, I know

921
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,000
a little bit more about them.
I know and that now I know what

922
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,360
to be.
Go ahead Tal, you about to say

923
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,280
something?
I was just going to say I pray

924
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,880
that I can be as excited as Tim
is about my team in the coming

925
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,120
years.
That man is excited.

926
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,040
That's how, that's how that's
how I want to feel going into

927
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,120
the college football season.
I don't feel that way right now,

928
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,960
guys.
We had a taste of that last

929
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:13,640
year.
Then it got.

930
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Taste of that last.
Year right out of our.

931
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,400
Hands I don't want I don't want
to think about it.

932
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,960
I don't want to think about last
year.

933
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,200
Well, we.
We also are a lot, well,

934
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,120
Shelton's not as old, but
Shelton's been a college fan for

935
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,440
a long time, like.
We got we got to play the game,

936
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,400
man.
We got to play the game.

937
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,320
We have to play the game.
Yeah, that's how we should have

938
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,480
felt.
Put that up there.

939
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,760
I think this and what I like
when he made that point of those

940
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040
close games, you want to fly
into those close games.

941
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,840
If you win a few of those close
games, a few people don't

942
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
probably get fired.
Right.

943
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,560
And so.
Maybe a few people that should

944
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,440
have got fired wouldn't have got
fired.

945
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,720
OK.
So either way, appreciate them

946
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,240
bringing the heat.
You got a lot more names and

947
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,640
stuff.
Again, the one big thing that

948
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:07,280
like for them did I think, I
think it's in the back of Tim's

949
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,280
head somewhere.
He's just not trying to hide it

950
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,560
is that is a lot of talent lost
on defense that played, that

951
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,320
played majority of the snaps.
And it's not, it's not saying

952
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,160
there's 6th and 7th rounders, TJ
Sanders 4th rounders, Immunori

953
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,240
second rounder, damn near 1st
rounder, 9th, 3rd rounder,

954
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,600
Kinnar third rounder and those
guys.

955
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,320
And we've seen an attack, right?
We've seen a bunch of guys get

956
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,480
drafted all the the next guy's
going to be OK and they ain't as

957
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920
they're not bad, they're just
not as good.

958
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,400
And we just know how that feels.
Let's talk about, I mean, you,

959
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,640
you, you look at a 2017 to 2018
transition and yeah, yeah,

960
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,360
that's, that's basically what
happened on that defense.

961
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Now they're covered was a whole
lot more full behind those guys

962
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,760
than what we had.
But from a talent standpoint, it

963
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,760
was a very similar degree of
loss.

964
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,440
There you go.
That's a good way to put it.

965
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,840
All right, so we got a lot more
to unload.

966
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560
We 50 minutes in.
And again, I wouldn't take that

967
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,840
away from nothing because I
think Tim gave us an educational

968
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,160
South Carolina.
It's going to help me know

969
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,960
names, numbers and all that fun
stuff.

970
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,880
But if y'all were not aware,
over the last few weeks we have

971
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,480
been running little ads saying
you can win a ticket to a

972
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,480
concert the night before the
game.

973
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,880
Well, we earlier today, I
shouldn't say we Brian earlier

974
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,800
today got all the emails, all
the names, put them into a

975
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:41,000
randomizer, click the button and
we have a winner and it is Jay

976
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Largon is the winner of the
concert.

977
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,720
Tickets to the AOAR concert this
Saturday.

978
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Brian actually got to connect
with Jay real quick at coach Jay

979
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,800
Largon on Twitter.
He is going to the game.

980
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,480
So the tickets are going to be
used.

981
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:03,800
We appreciate all of y'all for
just putting your just put it in

982
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,480
the tweets out there, following
it, clicking on the links.

983
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,640
It was a great opportunity for
us to get that from the Hokie

984
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,680
way.
Yeah.

985
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,520
And while we're at it, you know
there there's still tickets out

986
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,880
there for sale.
Be sure I I know we got it down

987
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,320
there in the bottom, but go to
thehokeyway.org/concert and if

988
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,760
you use boundary corner one word
at at check out there, you'll

989
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,760
get 10% off that ticket order.
So if you're still looking for

990
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,000
tickets, you're heading to
Atlanta, you want to go to this

991
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,840
concert that's.
What you got to do do it All

992
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,600
right.
Couple real quick hitters.

993
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,120
Y'all probably saw this.
Divine Diablo is going to be the

994
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,920
honorary captain.
Love seeing that tally.

995
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,440
You had to love the Instagram
drop with the jersey reveal the

996
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,200
other day.
Oh man, I like Waffle House even

997
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,200
more than orange.
And that's, you know, that's

998
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,640
hard to do so.
Are you a Waffle House

999
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,040
connoisseur, though?
Are you?

1000
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Man, listen, I used to the old
I've got.

1001
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,600
I can't eat everything that I
used to eat.

1002
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,760
Like I get sick, but I still
will go to Waffle House and get

1003
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,720
me a chicken and cheese omelet
with a waffle on the side.

1004
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,840
You know, I'll get my hash
Browns, throw a little onions in

1005
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,320
there.
You know what I'm saying?

1006
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,320
Like Waffle House is just, I
don't think I've ever been.

1007
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,840
Let me tell you about Waffle
House and then I'm going to be

1008
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,880
done.
I know we got to go on.

1009
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,920
You got to see some crackheads
at Waffle House.

1010
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,960
Like you can't go to Waffle
House and people be, you know,

1011
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,960
have a, they can't, they need to
live in a trailer.

1012
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,720
You know, they need to not have
all their teeth.

1013
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,720
I went to Waffle House one time
and the dude cooking my food had

1014
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,760
a Waffle House arm band on.
I knew the food was going to be

1015
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,280
good.
I knew it was.

1016
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,960
He had a shooting sleeve on like
Carmelo Anthony and he only had

1017
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,960
three teeth.
And I said, that's the one that

1018
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,480
I want cooking my food because I
know it's going to be greasy.

1019
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,920
I know it's going to be clogging
my heart up a little bit, but I

1020
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,800
know it's going to be the best
food I've had.

1021
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,360
And I wasn't drunk.
I was sober as can be.

1022
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,560
I heard you either have to have
a black belt or be a meth head

1023
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,680
to work at Waffle House.
You got to be, you got to have a

1024
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,920
little bit of drug use to work
in Waffle House.

1025
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,120
You know, that's just what you
got to do.

1026
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,000
Somebody's got to, it's got to
be a fight close.

1027
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,160
It ain't got to be inside, but
it's got to be a fight close

1028
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,560
outside.
Somebody in the back on the

1029
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,240
phone, We need to see a little
bit of crackhead activity for

1030
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:43,240
that Waffle House to be buzzing.
So if y'all ain't been to Waffle

1031
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,560
House, if y'all don't know about
Waffle House, Waffle House.

1032
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,840
Hey, man, lose, lose a little
bit of money.

1033
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,720
I know, I know some of these
people got money, man.

1034
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,560
They probably, and I'm an IHOP
guy too, but you know, Waffle

1035
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,920
House, that's what it said.
Waffle House, is it all righty?

1036
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,880
So we're going to get into
telling some truths here about

1037
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,800
the depth chart.
But before we do anything about

1038
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,120
the depth chart, we got to tell
the truth with all the news.

1039
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,240
It's people are it's been up
here 3 or 4 times about Caleb

1040
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,120
Woodson.
If you have not been under a

1041
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,480
rock or if you have been under a
rock today, excuse me and you

1042
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,600
have not seen the news what
happened?

1043
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
And you just you just oblivious
to everything.

1044
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Caleb Woodson on Saturday night
did get Adu or excuse me, a DWI

1045
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:41,400
charge so.
You know, everybody's like Ricky

1046
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Leblu's comments.
You didn't see Tally's comments.

1047
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,800
Tally's comments was better.
But just what are y'all,

1048
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Shelton?
I'm going to throw it to you

1049
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,600
first because a, you, you worked
as an Sid.

1050
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,600
You know, there's those rules.
First of all, what is going to

1051
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,480
happen this weekend?
Just your prediction.

1052
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,880
Tell the truth.
What's going to happen this

1053
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,040
weekend?
Yeah, with them.

1054
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,320
With Caleb Woodson.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have any

1055
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,680
doubt that it'll play.
I mean, with these things,

1056
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,760
normally what you do is you sort
of, you know, you, you pass it

1057
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,560
off to the university,
university handles it because if

1058
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,480
they're you've got their own
policies, the athletic

1059
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,080
department has their policies.
So you guys wait and see.

1060
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,560
And then, you know, they they do
the they do the thing in court

1061
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,440
and whenever they adjudicate
that, then they'll, you know,

1062
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,440
dish out some punishment.
So I don't expect much will come

1063
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,680
of it from a, from a, you know,
a, not a disciplinary

1064
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,480
standpoint, More so like, you
know, this is not going to be a,

1065
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,280
you know, lengthy suspension.
Obviously it's not, it's not

1066
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,320
even a felony.
It's a, it's a misdemeanor.

1067
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,800
So, but they'll probably, you
know, handle it internally.

1068
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,880
He's already been removed of his
captaincy and Price said that he

1069
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,520
has the opportunity to earn it
back, which I would imagine

1070
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,000
would take a while.
But I think they're probably

1071
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,600
just going to be pretty lean
about this.

1072
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,440
If they do a suspension, it'll
probably be against Wofford

1073
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,760
maybe for half, I don't know.
But I would not expect any sort

1074
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,480
of, you know, harsh handed
disciplinary measures outside

1075
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,720
of, you know, internal stuff
that they, you know, they they

1076
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
don't let that punishment with
within the program.

1077
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Tom, I'm.
I'm going to let y'all go 1st.

1078
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,080
I'm going to go last.
Oh, you're going to go last.

1079
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,840
I'll go next.
I'll give you the brown.

1080
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,160
We'll, we'll go.
We'll go this way.

1081
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,480
How much help?
And I don't think anything

1082
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,160
happened this weekend.
You've got to let it go to

1083
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,400
court.
And also Class 1 misdemeanors.

1084
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,000
There's with Virginia Tech,
there's 4 levels.

1085
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,760
There can be a suspension, but
usually it's a warning, some

1086
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,160
sort of other disciplinary
action.

1087
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Suspension is the 4th one on the
list.

1088
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,640
It is the highest one on the
list for a misdemeanor.

1089
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,400
And I know ADW is nothing to
play around with.

1090
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,680
That shit can get people killed
and to what some of the other

1091
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,120
people said, but we all have
been young and done stupid shit

1092
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,200
at some points in our life.
I don't think he's going to be

1093
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,360
suspended if they do anything.
Maybe he don't play the first

1094
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,160
series.
That might be it this weekend.

1095
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,640
Like we we took your captaincy
away.

1096
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,400
You're not going to play the
first series.

1097
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,240
You will not be out there and
then put Thomas's thing up here

1098
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:19,800
real quick.
Brian.

1099
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,920
I see it in the right corner.
And we don't know quite this

1100
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,480
yet.
We don't know what it is, does

1101
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,440
it?
It does not make a difference.

1102
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,960
But that might go down to like
fleeting and stuff.

1103
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,840
But I think he's playing and and
people can, you know, try to get

1104
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,600
on a high horse or something.
But I think I know what Tally's

1105
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,640
going to say a lot.
I'm not going.

1106
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,120
I'm going to leave that silent,
Brian.

1107
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,520
No, you say whatever you want to
say.

1108
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,840
Oh.
No, no, no, no.

1109
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,280
I know what Tally's going to
say.

1110
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,160
I know.
What he's?

1111
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,480
Going to say, I'm going to work
around with what I know Tally's

1112
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,400
going to say.
What I'm going to say is this.

1113
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,360
So when you look at a
misdemeanor and when you look at

1114
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,240
what we've seen historically
happened with these at Virginia

1115
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920
Tech, but also when we look at
A, at a grander scheme of how

1116
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,120
these things kind of play out
elsewhere, I don't think there's

1117
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,920
a chance that he doesn't play in
this game, whether he ends up

1118
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,400
sitting at a series or a quarter
or what we or whatever it may

1119
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,080
be, that that would be the most
I could foresee happening.

1120
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,800
I think he plays in this game.
I actually think he plays all

1121
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,760
four quarters.
And I think at some point this

1122
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880
season we, you might see some
additional disciplinary that

1123
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,880
results from, as Shelton said,
the university process playing

1124
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,440
out for this.
But I I don't think we're going

1125
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,000
to actually see punitive action
taking from a playing time

1126
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,360
standpoint.
You got to let the justice

1127
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,280
system do his job first before
anything, because we don't we

1128
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,640
beat the stupid.
We be the stupid program that

1129
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560
he's going to sit the whole game
and then they drop the charges

1130
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,560
when he goes to court.
And it'd be like, why'd you they

1131
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,840
drop the charges?
Why'd you wait down it?

1132
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,360
Light it up.
No, I mean, that's that's that's

1133
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,480
what it is it it depends, man.
Like there are some things that

1134
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,440
a college student can get in,
some things anybody can get in

1135
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,400
that would warrant, Hey, I need
you to be away from us.

1136
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,120
You know what I'm saying?
Some things that rhyme with

1137
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,640
grape, stuff like that, any kind
of, you know, harming somebody,

1138
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,840
things like that.
Now I'm not taking anything like

1139
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,040
that.
Somebody can get in as far as

1140
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,760
legal action or legal, you know,
ramifications, things like that.

1141
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,160
But he's been asked 90 million
times on here.

1142
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,480
And then and then we got to
address it because that's what

1143
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,640
we do.
We going to tell the truth on

1144
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,880
here all the time.
Whether you like it, whether you

1145
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,880
don't like it, no matter who
likes it.

1146
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:47,120
Somebody posted on, on, on, on X
today, Ricky Labeaux, the blue,

1147
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,280
whatever his name is, he goes on
there.

1148
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,160
And no disrespect to him, I
think he's a good guy.

1149
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,880
I've had some interactions with
him, but he goes on there and he

1150
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,080
just goes in talking about if
the coach has any spine, he

1151
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,480
should do this.
First of all, we don't come to

1152
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,040
your fucking job and tell you
what to do because I'm sure you

1153
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,680
do some shit at your job is
probably ain't right because I

1154
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,200
know I do.
So we don't go to nobody's job

1155
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,280
and tell them what they should
and shouldn't do, what it is.

1156
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,640
You ain't got a spine.
Balls too big, too little,

1157
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,120
whatever.
We ain't doing all that.

1158
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,720
But this is what I can say.
There are things that people try

1159
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,600
to use football coaches to be
more than football coaches.

1160
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:30,080
There are some football coaches
that are huge in people's lives,

1161
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,000
and I'm not taking that away.
This nowadays, more than

1162
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,920
anything, is treated like a pro
system.

1163
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,840
There are that there's pro
ramifications to what's going on

1164
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,640
with these young men.
You got to let the justice

1165
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,440
system do their job.
As an American, I've seen it

1166
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,520
plenty of times where police
pull somebody over, beats the

1167
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,320
shit out of them, punches them
through the window, shoots them,

1168
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,640
whatever the case is.
And I'm like, Dang, that looks

1169
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,000
like it was bad.
And then the first thing I see

1170
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,960
on social media, somebody says,
well, we don't know all of the

1171
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,200
we don't know all of the
details.

1172
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Let's figure out what's going on
first before we make a decision

1173
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,520
on this.
And then on the other end, you

1174
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,120
got these people that just want
to, you know, throw some kind of

1175
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,520
bait out and say, oh, this
happened because it is.

1176
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,440
We don't know the details.
We don't know what the substance

1177
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:21,840
was.
We don't know exactly what

1178
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,360
happened.
Neither do I care.

1179
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,480
All I know is number one, that
ain't his daddy y'all talking

1180
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,840
about.
He should be the the do this.

1181
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,960
And if he's trying to raise me
and he ain't fucking raising

1182
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,240
nobody, he's a football coach
that ain't winning no games.

1183
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,760
He has lost more games than he's
won.

1184
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,960
He better put the best players
on the field and try to figure

1185
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,000
out how to win.
Taking the C away.

1186
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,520
Great.
Good job, Coach Pryor.

1187
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,320
I don't blame you for that, but
this is what I'll say.

1188
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,600
You better put the best players
on the field to try to beat

1189
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,480
South Carolina because Shane
Beamer going to be on your ass

1190
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,960
and the rest of the fan base
going to be on your ass.

1191
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,360
So if you sit him because of
that, you might as well sit

1192
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,840
yourself because you're going to
put yourself in a position to

1193
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,640
lose.
Back to what we talking about

1194
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,000
with Caleb.
Now back to that situation, fans

1195
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,080
got to calm down.
This happens all over.

1196
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,800
Not saying that it's right, but
I've heard from some really,

1197
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,800
really good sources that there's
some investigations being

1198
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,560
launched about how that stop
went down.

1199
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:27,720
So they're targeting those kids.
They're going to do that because

1200
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,680
you got kids in Blacksburg
driving $90,000 cars, $60,000

1201
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:33,920
cars.
There's some police.

1202
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,320
I heard he wasn't even from
there.

1203
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,360
I heard he was from 30 miles
away, but whatever.

1204
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,840
Again, I'm a dude in Alabama.
I don't know nothing there.

1205
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,960
You got some people.
And I'm not saying that it's

1206
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,600
racism.
Sometimes it's placism, like if

1207
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,080
I'm a salesperson, which I am,
and a new salesperson comes in

1208
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,960
and they are getting paid more
than me, I'm going to be a

1209
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,640
little salty.
You know what I'm saying?

1210
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,600
So a lot of times these cops
look at these kids to come in,

1211
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,120
they know they're getting NIL
deals.

1212
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,080
They seeing what they driving
these bins is these hellcats and

1213
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,280
things like that, and they got a
problem with it.

1214
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,240
So they going to target them,
they going to follow them.

1215
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,720
Not making any excuses for
anything a kid does.

1216
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,160
You got to be held responsible
for what you do.

1217
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,840
That's why we have a legal
system.

1218
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,200
Ricky, you ain't the legal
system.

1219
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,720
Calm.
You're nuts, buddy.

1220
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Sunday is going to be a game on.
Watch the game.

1221
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,440
If you want to protest watching
the game because somebody's

1222
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,680
playing, protest.
Go watch tennis.

1223
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,080
They play tennis sometime, too.
I live by a pickleball court.

1224
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,200
It'd be a lot of people out
there playing pickleball.

1225
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,000
Go watch them play.
I'm just saying, man, that's how

1226
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,480
I feel.
I had to get my rent out.

1227
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,480
I feel better.
Curtis, reel me back in.

1228
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,400
I know I had to let you go
because what you said the, the,

1229
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,880
the statement you made about
where football coaches nowadays

1230
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,880
are, they're not.
Some are father figures, you're

1231
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,520
right.
Some are.

1232
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,240
Some really are.
Some want to do things.

1233
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,120
But to your point, it is now a
bigger game.

1234
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,440
It's about money.
It's about it's like, like like

1235
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,800
you said, college football is no
longer collegiate.

1236
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,480
College football and basketball
are professional sports teams.

1237
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,360
You don't see the head coach
running out in NBA or the NFL,

1238
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,960
right?
To your point, he's got people

1239
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,640
out there he's got to lean on
and I think he's got to learn a

1240
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,520
lesson from this.
And I think the Cabinet sees one

1241
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,360
thing, I think probably going to
courts going to be another one,

1242
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,960
so.
When we think about it from a

1243
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,640
professional standpoint in the
NFL, they don't preemptively.

1244
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,720
Hell no.
Unless.

1245
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,000
You got to be convicted.
Unless the deed is very crucial

1246
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,320
like Tally.
Was I?

1247
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,320
Got a good they don't.
Preemptively put somebody.

1248
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,360
On a bench.
I got a great question for you,

1249
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Sheldon.
I know you might be a little

1250
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,320
young on this, but you do your
research, so you probably know.

1251
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,880
I think Bobby had a spine.
Bobby had a pretty good spine.

1252
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,160
He didn't make Peter sit down.
Did he make Peter sit down?

1253
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,440
Peter was stealing that shit out
of the store, wasn't he?

1254
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,160
Or getting it for free.
Somebody was giving it to him.

1255
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,320
Did he?
Did he make him sit?

1256
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,040
Or did he play in the game?
And whoop my ass by yourself?

1257
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,200
I'm just asking.
If it weren't for him, things

1258
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,000
have been different.
If he had a spine, if we go by

1259
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:22,439
what was on X and he had a spine
and we make him sit, we pay.

1260
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,600
History might be different, you
know what I'm saying?

1261
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:27,279
We might be with this curse,
might be gone.

1262
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,080
I'm just saying hey, sometimes,
sometimes you got to do what you

1263
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,319
got to do to win.
Have y'all watched?

1264
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,560
The mid game run that Mike had,
I mean that might that might

1265
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,880
have been enough to seal it
without Peter coming back and

1266
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,439
doing his thing.
Have y'all ever watched the game

1267
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,160
the movie Blue Chips?
Oh yeah.

1268
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,720
Chad, I know y'all.
I know y'all.

1269
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,479
Have.
Oh, stop.

1270
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,359
Hold on.
Sheldon's never seen it.

1271
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,880
Shelton, you go to bed or what
are you doing tomorrow?

1272
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,240
You need to take two hours of
your time and watch Blue Chips.

1273
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,560
Blue Chips Man 30.
Three years ago.

1274
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
Great movie.
OK.

1275
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,439
Yeah, and I will say I, I, I
agree with Ricky in theory.

1276
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,720
I would like to live in a world
where athletes dealt with

1277
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,200
consequences just like regular
people do.

1278
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,120
But that's not the world we live
in.

1279
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,800
And so you're just going to play
by play by all the rules that

1280
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,040
everyone else is playing by.
So.

1281
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,800
Yeah, at that point if.
Everybody else is cheating.

1282
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,880
You might as well cheat too.
That's.

1283
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,880
Kind of.
But it's got to be if we're

1284
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,319
dealing with rules, let's deal
with them how everybody else

1285
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,600
deals with them.
The justice system should handle

1286
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,520
it, right?
All of the everything has to

1287
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,120
come out.
Let's figure out what's going

1288
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,319
on. 1st.
Did we plant something in the

1289
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,479
car?
Was he on the edible?

1290
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,439
Did he smoke a little weed?
Did he drink a beer?

1291
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,319
Guess what, we don't know.
So fuck it, let's wait till we

1292
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:47,600
know before we find out there.
You go all right real quick.

1293
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,920
I want y'all to give me one tell
you truth on the depth chart

1294
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,280
that whether you feel good about
it, bad about it, won't prepared

1295
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,200
for it or or or what we're not
going to do what we can do

1296
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,360
better next because we figure
out that next week with this

1297
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,920
shit that with the depth chart.
I was not prepared for Montavius

1298
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,680
Cunningham at right tackle.
I'm going to jump out right out

1299
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:14,040
the gate and let you know I was
not prepared for Montavius

1300
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,960
Cunningham at right tackle.
I don't hate it, but I was very

1301
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,040
much not prepared for it.
So I will say that one.

1302
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,400
I agreed.
Agreed.

1303
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:29,240
Although that tape we saw from
two years ago against LSU, it

1304
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,880
was like that kid can play right
tackle.

1305
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,200
That's why I said I don't hate
it.

1306
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,000
I, I, and I'll piggyback on
that, I hope I'm not taking

1307
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,240
anybody's not seeing Muskrat in
any of those two deeps at the AT

1308
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,560
offensive line also swings me in
the other direction.

1309
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,440
The musty rat.
All right, Sheldon, what about

1310
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,960
you?
Feel good, feel bad Shot.

1311
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,360
I don't know.
It's hard to tell with how many

1312
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,160
ORS there are in the in the
chat.

1313
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,760
I mean, I don't know.
I feel like they they

1314
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,080
intentionally tried to be as
ambiguous as possible.

1315
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,320
I don't know.
I mean defensive, defensive end.

1316
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,600
I mean, I feel like John can we
kind of knew he'd be a starter.

1317
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,680
It seemed like Arias Nash wasn't
quite as I guess maybe

1318
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,720
productive as it would have,
would have you know, liked.

1319
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,320
So he's a little bit a little
bit further down.

1320
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,800
Bell and Burgos will be an
interesting battle.

1321
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,960
I've been pretty high on Ben
Bell from what from just from

1322
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,840
what I heard at camp, but it
seems like Burgos is kind of

1323
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,560
challenging him as well.
So I think I think that'll be

1324
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,840
interesting.
I think there's a lot of there's

1325
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,720
a lot of like, you know, really
solid, but no like true elite

1326
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,520
standouts on the on the
defensive line.

1327
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,560
So I feel like I'm just
interested to see kind of how

1328
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,360
that battle plays out because I
think they've got some pretty

1329
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,440
good depth.
They're much more than they had

1330
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:43,320
last year, but no like true bona
fide star, like an APR.

1331
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,120
So I'm interested to see that.
Anything shocked made you happy

1332
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,800
made you sad made.
Man, you know how to, you know

1333
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,920
how to depth charts be.
I'll be finding it.

1334
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,920
I'll be finding it humorous.
Like Josh said, man, they was

1335
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,280
rowing a boat with all them ORS.
They was in the canoe with so

1336
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,760
many ORS in that running back
room.

1337
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:07,520
It was ORS everywhere.
I'm like, what is him or him or

1338
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,520
him?
They don't know, man.

1339
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,120
They just put the stuff out
there.

1340
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,920
Y'all want a depth chart?
I feel like the coaches got a

1341
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,360
sense of humor.
They like y'all know what?

1342
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,520
Yeah, they they want a depth
chart.

1343
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,280
Watch this.
Watch this.

1344
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,400
Let's just put it out there so
we don't know who.

1345
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,560
Only thing I know about the
depth chart is that if he's

1346
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,760
healthy, which I think he is,
Kyron Drones is the starting

1347
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,960
quarterback.
Everything else is subjective.

1348
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,600
I don't know.
I don't know nothing.

1349
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,760
So I'll say this, the, the, the,
the right and the Rimac and

1350
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,000
Cunningham switch had because
everything we heard and

1351
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,480
remember, we had, we had DC on
here six days ago.

1352
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,080
Cunningham, who'd seen that
stuff in person was like, every

1353
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,680
time we've seen it, Rimac's been
it, right?

1354
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,400
Cunningham's been.
Asked the question now, we asked

1355
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,040
the question in a different
context.

1356
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,640
We were asking whether they
were, you know, the tackles were

1357
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,160
swapped.
We didn't realize that the guard

1358
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,960
and the tackle were getting.
The guard and the tackle were

1359
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,680
swapped.
Curtis, you got some people.

1360
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,200
I was going to say, yeah, you
got a lot of people asking and

1361
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,440
talking about Selden.
What you think about that?

1362
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,640
Well, the whole thing we got to
think about what we're going to

1363
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:17,320
if if Montgomery has even 65% of
the way he used to run tempo,

1364
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,920
everybody that's on that
starting wide receiver depth

1365
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,240
chart, they're going to be in
there because we're going to be

1366
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,040
running tempo.
We're going to be running fast.

1367
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,040
You got him as the slot back up
and Takihi, we know Heath is a

1368
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,280
gadget guy a little smaller,
sells the exact opposite of him.

1369
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,240
Yeah, sells huge.
So I'm with you.

1370
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,320
Like some of it just don't
matter.

1371
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,960
Some of it they just mess it
with the song.

1372
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,880
Now I'll say this.
What did catch my eye and I

1373
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,080
thought to Brian about it was go
to defensive end and Bell and

1374
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Burgos and and Yonko.
Not shocking, right, right.

1375
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,560
Elijah Fall the transfer portal
guy Elijah falls not your

1376
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,000
typical defensive end.
Elijah falls 63288.

1377
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,720
That's a that is saying we're
there's going to be some three

1378
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,080
man fronts and he's probably
going to be running the base in

1379
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,200
or they're going to be
something.

1380
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,040
What is it?
Brian running like 2 eyes and

1381
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:19,680
he'll play directly over a
tackle as A5 tech and then let

1382
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,240
junk them because they we've
been hearing Ben Beller and

1383
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,360
Virgos.
There's two guys standing up a

1384
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,760
lot.
There's two guys always standing

1385
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,960
up.
Sometimes Ian has the fan of the

1386
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,120
dirt.
I think I see that.

1387
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,440
But as far as everything else
goes, it's like like people are

1388
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,160
saying, it's a good thing to
have, gives us something to talk

1389
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,280
about.
Yeah.

1390
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,600
And I mean, we still don't know,
you know, exactly what, at least

1391
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,640
against South Carolina, what
what base front we're going to

1392
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,560
come out in.
I think we kind of assume it's

1393
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,280
going to be some variation of a
of an even front, but to be

1394
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,160
determined.
Well, I'll say this though, what

1395
01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:01,080
I'll go.
Ahead, I'm putting this up,

1396
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,400
Randy.
The first was a speeding ticket.

1397
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Yeah, you can have a reckless
driving speeding ticket.

1398
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,920
That's not a second offense,
DWI.

1399
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,600
That's completely different.
Completely different.

1400
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,760
So no, Josh said.
Josh said he was surprised to

1401
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,480
see Takai, but he knows he's a
ball if he's healthy.

1402
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,880
I ain't gonna say I was
surprised, but exactly right,

1403
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,480
Josh.
Like I wouldn't the game last

1404
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:29,040
year at Vanderbilt and I kept
saying and I was singing it from

1405
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,960
the mountaintops, like why can
we not get this kid the ball?

1406
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,520
He was so much quicker and
faster than the rest of the wide

1407
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,840
receivers that were on the
field.

1408
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,200
I would say probably Jay Lane
was the only one that kind of

1409
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,120
had the same twitch as I did see
Takei have.

1410
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,840
But again, things happen during
the year, people get banged up.

1411
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,440
I think he thought about leaving
the team for a little while or

1412
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,480
maybe did leave the team for a
little while.

1413
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,040
But whatever the case is,
they've said he's had a great

1414
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,440
fall and he's he's a, he's a
talented player.

1415
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,560
I just hope that this year he he
puts it together and it's very

1416
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,960
frustrating to a player that you
know your ability and you know

1417
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,800
what you can do and you're on a
team that is not producing, not

1418
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,920
winning.
I say that and you can't get on

1419
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,760
the field.
So a lot of times these kids or

1420
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,520
these young men get frustrated
and you know, they either going

1421
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,920
to pursue other opportunities or
they want to know why I'm not on

1422
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,240
that.
So I was asking the same thing

1423
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:36,720
last year, but I'm excited to
see Heath get in the in the mix.

1424
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,240
I hope that we get to see what
he can do because I really think

1425
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:46,120
that we haven't seen somebody in
a phone booth like him.

1426
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,160
You know what I'm saying?
We had a couple of wide

1427
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,520
receivers that were really good
wide receivers last year.

1428
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,760
But I think that him getting off
the line and I kept seeing him

1429
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,920
put him in motion and I'm like,
man, he's fast.

1430
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:02,160
But we just never got to see
that translate to even a play.

1431
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,320
I don't even say a big play to a
play.

1432
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,600
So Josh, great, great look when
you when you talked about him

1433
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,520
being that slot because I didn't
even think about that.

1434
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,560
But I guess that's probably what
I was surprised that just that

1435
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,080
he was listed there, but I'm
excited that he's listed there.

1436
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:25,160
Lovett is effectively starter
is, as is Caleb Brown.

1437
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,360
You know what?
And some of this shit might be

1438
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,640
there to motivate people.
Like they may know, like, yeah,

1439
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,080
I'm I'm the one.
It's like, you know, you ain't

1440
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,640
nothing yet.
We ain't played a game yet.

1441
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:36,920
All right, one thing before we
turn on, we're going to get into

1442
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,560
Hokie Keys next and then make
our predictions.

1443
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,440
One thing I was so happy to see
because I do not think this is a

1444
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:44,800
lie.
Tucker Holloway punt return that

1445
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,320
man Dangerous.
Well, yeah, Tucker's good,

1446
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,760
dangerous.
Hate it when he went down last

1447
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,040
year.
So to see him back out there,

1448
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:56,000
man, he's he's to say that he is
more special to me now.

1449
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,480
No disrespect to Jay Lane
because Jay Lane was a very,

1450
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,480
very good player.
Think he's going to have a long

1451
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:04,040
NFL career.
Tucker being at punt return,

1452
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,640
it's special.
He's just, he's just a different

1453
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,960
type of punt returner, you know
what I'm saying?

1454
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,240
Kind of fearless back there.
Just works hard, has the long

1455
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,040
strides when he runs and you go
back and watch, what was it,

1456
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,320
Georgia Tech, that he took one
back?

1457
01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:21,280
Is that the game somewhere
around there anyway?

1458
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,520
Not last year, yeah, before
last.

1459
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,480
But anyway, seeing Tucker back
in that punt return, in that

1460
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:30,160
returning position, think it
helps us out a little bit.

1461
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,280
You look at punt returning, so
like Jay Lane was the guy that's

1462
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:39,560
going to break that first tackle
and then run away from people.

1463
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:44,440
I feel like Tucker, he's got
that kind of vision and kind of

1464
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:47,760
sees how things are set up and
just knows exactly where to go.

1465
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,400
And then that's where his talent
is.

1466
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,840
And like you said, Tally, once
he gets that, that acceleration

1467
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,200
up, he's got those long strides
and it's hard to catch him at

1468
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,000
that point.
Percent all right, so let's flip

1469
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,880
off here.
Appreciate y'all all the

1470
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,040
comments in there, but we do
need to talk about what we feel

1471
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,720
are going to be to the keys of
the game from the Hokie side and

1472
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,640
Sheldon just goes Sheldon goes
quiet of time.

1473
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,120
So Sheldon, you get to kick us
off.

1474
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,800
What is going to be the key for
the Hokies to pull the wind?

1475
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,280
Yeah.
So I said for me, I said protect

1476
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,960
drones, you know, specifically
with regards to trying to limit,

1477
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,920
you know what, what Stewart can
do again, we talked about, you

1478
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,320
know, his pass rush numbers, 51
Kiwi pressures last year.

1479
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:39,800
That was fourth SEC and of the
top six SEC pass rush pressure

1480
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,960
guys, five of them are now in
the NFL.

1481
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:44,880
Obviously Stuart being the one
exception.

1482
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,720
So this is a bona fide legit NFL
talent.

1483
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,440
He's going to be going up
against, as you said, Montavas

1484
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:50,760
Cunningham, who again, we have
we didn't see last year.

1485
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,120
So we don't know what he is
capable of.

1486
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,280
I'm a little bit more concerned
about the left side of the line

1487
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,440
than I am the right side of the
line.

1488
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,560
But still, I just I have some
concerns about their ability to

1489
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,640
protect Kyron.
I feel like if, you know, we

1490
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,320
saw, we saw last year with, you
know, Karen, but constantly, you

1491
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,640
know, under pressure, seeing
ghosts, you know, potentially

1492
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,800
getting hurt, I just think
that's a bad, bad thing.

1493
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,200
You know, my biggest thing is
pass protection, keep him

1494
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,720
protected in the pocket so he
can make some throws and

1495
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,520
scramble out there and get some
get some runs in.

1496
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,720
Cali.
Yeah, no, what Sheldon said is,

1497
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,760
is really good.
I don't, I don't even think I

1498
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,800
hit on this when they were
talking about it earlier, but

1499
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:33,640
Karen is, is a lot like or
whichever one's older him and

1500
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,680
sellers are very much alike.
So how excited they are about

1501
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,480
Sellers?
I'm as excited about Kyron

1502
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,760
because I've seen his potential.
You know, I know what his

1503
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,320
ceiling is.
I don't want to say I know what

1504
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,400
ceiling.
I know what can be, which is the

1505
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:49,840
NFL guy.
I feel like Sellers can be an

1506
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,840
NFL guy.
I don't know where he goes.

1507
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,840
Kyron can be that as well.
But it's all about protection.

1508
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:01,080
It's about sometimes if you do
have a lack of talent in certain

1509
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,680
positions, you have to coach
that talent that you do have up.

1510
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:10,560
So it's going to come down to
two people coaching, 2 Staffs

1511
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,960
coaching and that's why I say my
key to victory is going to be

1512
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:18,560
management and time management
and adjustments.

1513
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,040
I think Tim talked about that a
little bit when he talked about

1514
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,400
their DC maybe taking a little
too long to adjust.

1515
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,000
Well, we had ADC that didn't
adjust at all in the

1516
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,640
second-half, so we made an
adjustment and got rid of him.

1517
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,120
Thank the Lord couple of people
are gone.

1518
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:41,920
So I'm hoping that this staff,
it does a much better job with

1519
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,800
the time management and their
adjustments.

1520
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,600
Because to beat A-Team, even if
you're punching a little bit

1521
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,160
above your weight class, you got
to do some things strategically.

1522
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,600
It doesn't always have to be
talent against talent.

1523
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,320
You know, talent does wins you
some games, but coaching wins

1524
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:03,000
you some games as well.
Pry has to prove that he's the

1525
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,400
guy.
This is a game that he can prove

1526
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,200
it.
He was close against a, you

1527
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,560
know, a couple of people that
Miami game.

1528
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,960
If he takes that game, that's a
signature win for him.

1529
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,680
If he wins a game like this,
it's a signature win for him.

1530
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,840
He needs that for him.
You know what I'm saying?

1531
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,000
Because if, if, if pride doesn't
make this work.

1532
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,440
And I'm, I know I'm not trying
to go too far, but if pride

1533
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:27,600
doesn't make this work this
year, what does he go?

1534
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:31,480
You know what I'm saying?
Like if, if, if he doesn't make

1535
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:34,480
this work and then he doesn't,
you know, put together a good

1536
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,080
like his resume doesn't look
good.

1537
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,120
Who hires him?
The school of the blind and

1538
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,560
deaf.
I mean, where's he, where's he

1539
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:46,160
where?
Seriously?

1540
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,040
Like, where does he go from
Virginia Tech if he doesn't make

1541
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,440
this work?
Because what we talk about and

1542
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:56,200
what Virginia Tech fans know of
him, the rest of the football

1543
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,960
world knows as well.
Look at Justin Fuente.

1544
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:00,760
Yeah, he got paid, but he still
ain't no head coach no more.

1545
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,280
And I mean, once you've been a
head coach, I feel like you want

1546
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:04,880
to be a head coach, you know
what I'm saying?

1547
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:07,400
Maybe he doesn't, but I don't
know who.

1548
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,960
Let's probably be a head coach
if he doesn't make this work.

1549
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,800
And I think he has the ability
to be a head coach, but he has

1550
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,920
to prove it, starting with that.
Time management, my boy, you

1551
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,280
better get that time management
right.

1552
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,560
Use them timeouts, right.
Call Shelton if y'all don't know

1553
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,960
what the the time frame is.
I mean, he owns.

1554
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,960
The chart.
He got the chart.

1555
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:33,400
College, Bryan, is it?
Bryan going to.

1556
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:35,600
Tell us, I'll talk next.
Let let's let's have a little

1557
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,160
conversation.
So picture this, it's last year.

1558
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,160
It's late August.
You know, you're in Nashville.

1559
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,320
You you've been drinking a
couple days.

1560
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,080
You've been having a good time.
You go to this this stadium and

1561
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,840
it's it's hot.
It's hot as hell.

1562
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,440
And you're sitting there and all
of a sudden you come out and you

1563
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,720
see your team and the offense
goes up there and it doesn't

1564
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,480
really look like the offense
that you expected.

1565
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,760
And, and, and, and you, you kind
of scratching your head like,

1566
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,760
what the hell are we doing?
So my key, don't be something

1567
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,560
you're not, don't, don't go out
there and try to be something

1568
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,000
you're not.
Play to your strengths as an

1569
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,760
offense.
Play to your strengths as a team

1570
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:18,200
and let the chips fall where
where they may.

1571
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,320
I mean, I, I think they are, you
know, top to bottom a more

1572
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,160
talented team, but that doesn't
always matter, especially week

1573
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,520
1, especially when you got 2 new
coordinators that they can't

1574
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,320
really prepare for.
So don't be something you're

1575
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,880
not.
Play to your strengths and let

1576
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,840
the chips fall where they may.
You may should have went last

1577
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,640
because that was better.
I went to analytical, my first

1578
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,840
one because I talked about him
with with Tim, you got to

1579
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,240
neutralize Kilgore.
That kid can pick balls off.

1580
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,200
He can make tackles.
Don't make him part of their

1581
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,640
game.
Basically get rid of him.

1582
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,520
And I know some people say
Stewart, well, you know what

1583
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,760
Stewart is like, It's you can
run away from him, run at him.

1584
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,760
You can do some things there.
But with this kid, he's playing

1585
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,560
the nickel.
Avoid him, avoid running to his

1586
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:12,040
side.
The second one is this, and for

1587
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,680
them last year, turnovers were a
big thing.

1588
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,520
In their nine wins, they were
like plus 16.

1589
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:25,320
In their losses, they were -5
basically they lost the turnover

1590
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,200
differential in every single
game they lost last year.

1591
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,240
And I think for the Hokies to
win, it cannot be on the plus

1592
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,840
side.
If it's the plus side it's a 2

1593
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,760
score win for them.
If it's even we got a punchers

1594
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:45,080
chance if we can just steal one
possession once.

1595
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,360
If we steal 2 that's when you
start getting into the good shit

1596
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,160
because you start stealing 2
possessions.

1597
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,920
OK how much when the turnover
battle?

1598
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,440
Because in the games they lost,
that was a struggle for them.

1599
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,840
They made those turnovers, they
lost possessions, and they lost

1600
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,760
some close games.
Last year, they got blown out by

1601
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,920
Ole Miss.
The other three games they lost

1602
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:13,640
were very close games.
And I'll be honest, SEC fucking

1603
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:18,560
gave LSU that game last year,
LSU, they gave LSU that game

1604
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,480
down South Carolina straight up.
So that's mine.

1605
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:25,920
All right, Well, we come to the
well, almost the end, but we now

1606
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,600
got to make our picks.
Who wants to go first?

1607
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,880
I'll go first in Prof fashion.
close game.

1608
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,480
South Carolina gets to win.
I got 2128.

1609
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,720
Got to be 1 score.
One score game, I got it.

1610
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,800
That's what I got.
What about you, Sheldon?

1611
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,960
Yeah, I'm going to go 3124 Cox,
but I'm actually I'm actually

1612
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,160
going to go back door cover or
well, I don't know if it's a

1613
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,440
cover, but it's going to be a
back door one score loss, which

1614
01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:58,360
would be very unfortunate, but I
just.

1615
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,320
Feel like that?
Don't score the last touch.

1616
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:03,960
Yeah, yeah, I'll.
Prize out there?

1617
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,440
No, no, Neil.
Neil.

1618
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,920
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know it'll be it'll

1619
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,640
be tight game, lots of unknowns
on both sides.

1620
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,160
But I think sellers is probably
the the difference maker in this

1621
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,000
one.
All righty.

1622
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,680
I'm sorry.
Your turn, Sir.

1623
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,040
My turn all right, I'm going to
do it.

1624
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,960
We're going to do a bit all
right, so this is the bit until

1625
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,720
Prow wins A1 score game.
Every fucking prediction that

1626
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,360
I'm going to have on here that's
against the power 4 opponent is

1627
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,240
going to be a one score loss for
the Hokies.

1628
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,400
So I've got 3330 Cox in this
one.

1629
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:51,320
OK. 3330 Cox I am also I am also
I have also picked in South

1630
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:59,200
Carolina 3324 He will not lose
the one that she came to them.

1631
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,760
It will be the one point above
it and the way I like my my, my

1632
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:08,000
head keeps playing it out like I
think late game it's going to

1633
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,280
be, I think it's going to be AI
think, I think what Cephas does

1634
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,960
and what Montgomery does are
going to keep us in it.

1635
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,880
I do think what Brian mentioned
about them being just a little

1636
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,800
bit deeper, I think they're
going to hold on late.

1637
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,520
It's going to be like 4 minutes
left.

1638
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,200
Shane's don't kick the field
goal.

1639
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,560
We go up 9 and we aren't going
to back door cover shelter.

1640
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,880
We're not going to do that.
We're going, we're going.

1641
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,480
We're just not so.
Yeah, so.

1642
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,120
Well, let me let me say this
right quick before we go to the

1643
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,400
next bit.
You see Randy's?

1644
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,080
Randy's.
Which one?

1645
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,640
Post there where he says if Penn
State moves on from from James

1646
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,800
Franklin.
James Franklin.

1647
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:48,840
Well, I ain't worried about
that.

1648
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,800
I just want to see.
Just show the fact that he

1649
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,920
called us Holies.
Randy, you can't call us Holies

1650
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,560
when we playing the Cox Holies.
The Cox ain't going to work

1651
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,320
good, my boy.
You got to put that K in there.

1652
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,520
That K is pivotal in this point
right here.

1653
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,680
Any other week might have let it
slide.

1654
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,720
Autocorrect is whipping Randy's
ass right now.

1655
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,000
We didn't.
Know, Randy, we can't.

1656
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,720
We can't beat up by the way.
By the way, something we did not

1657
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,440
well, it happened after we got
off last week.

1658
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,080
Randy King, former Roanoke Times
writer passed away and it and

1659
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,880
they played the video you saw
that did you see a Shelton?

1660
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,440
They played the Corey Moore
video because Corey Moore loved

1661
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:36,080
Randy King to death.
Hey, how you doing Randy after

1662
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,200
he's dropping F bombs on every
national reporter Damage to?

1663
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,920
A man with everybody.
Great attack.

1664
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,040
And how you doing Randy?
How you doing, Randy?

1665
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,560
Sounds great.
All right, well, that's our

1666
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,440
predictions.
I'd love to see y'all.

1667
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:51,200
I know there's one in the chat.
Let's put it up here.

1668
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,400
All right.
Hey, Chris.

1669
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,400
Hey, good, Chris.
How are we doing?

1670
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,920
Chris saying loves him kick a
late field goal to give us a

1671
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:04,480
full touchdown win all right I
like that all righty as usual

1672
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,280
y'all in this college football
season.

1673
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,960
We will be watching our beloved
Hokies all season, but we

1674
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:15,120
partake in things, we watch
other games and we always pick

1675
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,160
the big Screener that intrigues
us.

1676
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,600
And yes, there is a game you're
not going to see on here this

1677
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:26,720
week, so don't be shocked by it.
A Because that line's all shitty

1678
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,360
and anytime it's a pick em game,
it ain't fun to really pick.

1679
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,320
But we've all got our games that
we got to focus on and it is

1680
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:38,960
very ACC flavored because we are
scheduled to play three of these

1681
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:44,840
four teams and I'm starting with
the first one and we're going to

1682
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,080
Boulder Friday night.
Georgia Tech who is every they

1683
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,240
are Virginia Tech this year in
the ACC what we were last year,

1684
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,320
people got them all dark force.
They could win 11 games.

1685
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,000
OK, cool.
Well, they're going out to

1686
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:05,840
Boulder and they are A5 point
favorite on the road elevation

1687
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,040
change.
Dionne probably got something to

1688
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,840
prove without without Shidur
back there.

1689
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,200
I don't know who's going to win
the game, but if you give me a

1690
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:19,760
home dog with more than three
points, I will take it all day

1691
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,280
long.
Give me Colorado, Shelton, what

1692
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:28,920
do you got for this one?
Yes, I'm checking GTI.

1693
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,920
Honestly don't really know why
too many too many unknowns with

1694
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,000
Colorado is probably the
probably the biggest thing.

1695
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,080
But yeah, I just I'd like I like
I I really like bring Pi think

1696
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,640
he's I think he's made of the
right stuff.

1697
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,160
But it is interesting you bring
up the point of like, you know,

1698
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,120
this kind of like the BTC from
last year, like will Georgia

1699
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,880
Tech have a similar, you know,
underperformance or regression

1700
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,800
that, you know, we saw with BT?
So just interest says you that.

1701
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,440
Callum.
Georgia Tech.

1702
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:05,720
I'll tell you why after I picked
a couple other games, but

1703
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,560
Georgia Tech.
There we go.

1704
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,200
Brian.
I'm going to go with, with

1705
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:15,000
Colorado here.
I'm kind of with Curtis on, you

1706
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,400
know, I mean, Dion's coming off
a cancer scare.

1707
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,280
He doesn't have Shudur.
Like he's got a lot to prove in

1708
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,560
in this year.
I think he's going to have them

1709
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:27,040
ready to play.
And with the altitude change,

1710
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,560
you know, Georgia Tech probably
top to bottom on that roster,

1711
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,880
probably better.
I like, I like what what Brent

1712
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,000
he brings to the table, but I
think there's just too many

1713
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,640
other factors at play in this
one for that five line at home

1714
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,240
for Colorado.
All right, who's next?

1715
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:52,000
Tally, Tally lead us all.
Alabama and Florida State

1716
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,920
Castellano's been doing a lot of
talking.

1717
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,240
You know, Alabama's in the
second year with their head

1718
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,840
coach after the GOAT has
retired.

1719
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,640
I am saying, though, Florida
State is going to cover.

1720
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,680
Think they're going to lose, but
I think they're going to cover

1721
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,320
now.
I'll tell you why did I say

1722
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,240
that?
The same reason I said the first

1723
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:19,240
one, because we play Georgia
Tech and we play Florida State.

1724
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,800
Both of those teams are going to
look good in the first week.

1725
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,240
So I have to hear about how bad
they're going to kill us.

1726
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,560
That's what I'm going to hear
the first week.

1727
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,280
Any team that we play is going
to look good or compensated and

1728
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,360
they're going to say, man, when
we play them, they're going to

1729
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:34,880
kill us.
That's what I'm going to hear on

1730
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,320
on X all freaking week.
Florida State's going to

1731
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,560
probably lose by 7 points close
game.

1732
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,280
And then people's going to talk
about how Florida State's back

1733
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,000
and they also Georgia Tech's
going to go out there and whoop

1734
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,680
Colorado and people going to
talk about how they win in the

1735
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,320
ACC.
That's what happened here all

1736
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,600
week.
So hey.

1737
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:56,920
Tally.
I love it.

1738
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:01,560
I love it, Brian.
I've got Alabama in this one.

1739
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,880
I I really don't think Florida
State puts the pieces back

1740
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,200
together.
I definitely don't think they

1741
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,160
put them back together week one
against Alabama.

1742
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,640
I don't care if it's in
Tallahassee.

1743
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,160
I I don't care about these other
factors.

1744
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,720
I think Alabama's going to take
care of business.

1745
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,040
It's not going to be, it's not
going to be a huge, huge win,

1746
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,520
but I think it's going to be be
those two scores that they need

1747
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,920
to take care of it.
All righty.

1748
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,360
I'm kind of with Tally on this
one, by the way, Big screen is

1749
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:35,200
presented by Moments on the Mor,
our wonderful sponsor, I think.

1750
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,960
I thought she's going to cover.
I think it's going to be a much

1751
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,360
tighter game than people think.
I think it Castellanos hadn't

1752
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,280
ran his damn mouth so much they
might could have pulled the the

1753
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,080
dub.
But I think I think you're

1754
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,200
right, Ally.
I think pegging this game is

1755
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:55,840
somewhere like a touchdown game.
And is it cut late or is it you

1756
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,320
know, Bama just holds late?
I think 13 has to and again it

1757
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:07,720
is a home dog, home dog land 13
and a half Shelton.

1758
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,040
Yeah, I'm going to take a slight
MSU cover.

1759
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,880
I would have if this game was
played under Dick Saban, I

1760
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,600
probably would have taken Bema
10 out of 10 times.

1761
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,480
But I just not the same team,
not the same program.

1762
01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:21,640
And I do think people are
probably under selling FSUA

1763
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,120
little bit.
So I'll take I'll take FSU a

1764
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,840
slight cover.
All right, Shelton, you're up

1765
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,800
next.
Yeah, so I went with Notre Dame,

1766
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,240
Miami.
Interesting matchup.

1767
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,480
Carson Beck making his Kane's
debut against the the reigning.

1768
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:40,680
Well, I guess CFP runner up from
last year for this one, I went

1769
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,320
with Notre Dame.
I just trust Freeman a little

1770
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,880
bit more and I don't exactly
know what what we really have in

1771
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,360
Carson back given that he was
obviously playing for really

1772
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,720
talented team last year they
lost some weapons.

1773
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,280
So I'm a little bit more
confident in Notre Dame than

1774
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,720
they in Miami.
Kelly.

1775
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,640
Yeah, I'm taking Notre Dame as
well.

1776
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,720
Like Sheldon said, I kind of
just trust Freeman a little bit

1777
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,760
more than I trust Miami.
I've started to go with my same

1778
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,680
logic as I use with the other
teams, but that that line so

1779
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,000
close, it's almost to pick them
so they can still look good and

1780
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,640
people going to talk about how
they going to kill us too.

1781
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,560
But Notre Dame, I think taking
this one.

1782
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:28,840
I guess that leaves me up next.
I'm taking Miami here and it's

1783
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,680
really this is all about line.
I I think there's going to be

1784
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,280
some solid play on both both
teams here.

1785
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,680
But you know, 2 1/2 home dog.
I'm I'm going to go with that in

1786
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,720
in this instance here.
I I think they're just too

1787
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,240
evenly matched overall for to go
any other direction.

1788
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,680
Yeah, and, and I'm the same way.
Give me a give me the, give me

1789
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,320
the underdog at home and just I
feel like.

1790
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,720
CJ Carr got.
You know, is the quarterback at

1791
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,800
Notre Dame?
I just, I think Riley Leonard

1792
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,720
was just a perfect piece for
them last year.

1793
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,720
Tough runner, smart kid.
And I don't know, can you can

1794
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,840
you recreate magic 2 times in a
way in a row?

1795
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,800
So yeah, I, I, I think, I don't
know who wins.

1796
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,920
I think the whole thing is I
just want to be enjoying this

1797
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,760
game with a victory beer on
Sunday night.

1798
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,400
Me.
Too.

1799
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,120
Because if not it's I'm going to
be in a pissy ass mood till at

1800
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:27,800
least half.
Time.

1801
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,160
I'm with you.
I've got you.

1802
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,800
Ron, you got the last one where
we go.

1803
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,920
We're so we, we've got the, the
Tigers of Death Valley Bowl

1804
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:42,560
here.
We got LSU, Clemson, Clemson,

1805
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,720
you know -4 at home there.
I, I'm riding with it.

1806
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,720
I, I feel like this is a program
that I think is kind of put the

1807
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,160
pieces back together a little
bit.

1808
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,040
And I think this might be a, a
year where they can make a

1809
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,600
little bit of a run.
So give me Clemson in this one

1810
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:04,000
down there at their home
stadium, the other Death Valley.

1811
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,280
Yep I'm I'm taking Clemson as
well.

1812
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,640
I'll lay the four points.
Clemson wins by 7.

1813
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,600
Good game on Saturday night.
Look forward to getting comfy

1814
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,840
and watching it, not be in a
pissy mood.

1815
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,560
Yeah, I saw, I saw a stat the
other day that LSU has I think

1816
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,040
has lost four or five straight
season openers.

1817
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,960
So for no reason, Brian Kelly
just does not have his A game,

1818
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,360
the season opener.
So I think I'll take Clemson.

1819
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,600
I like their coaching staff just
a little bit better.

1820
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,520
I just like to cause controversy
so I say LSU.

1821
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,120
No reason why besides that.
Just want to be different and be

1822
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,640
wrong.
He wanted to be different.

1823
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,320
He is born of the tiger Eye
underneath his name.

1824
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,280
Yeah, Tiger Eye.
Well fellas, we got to the end

1825
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,040
of the first episode of the
season.

1826
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:55,600
Hey, we're back.
We're back, baby. 11/15 11:15

1827
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,280
Shelton's about to go out.
As soon as I have him read his

1828
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,240
name, he's probably going to be
like, y'all, I'm going to bed.

1829
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:03,600
Y'all were crazy standing up at
11.

1830
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,240
O'clock, I'm waiting.
I ain't far behind.

1831
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,960
All right, we appreciate it.
Y'all listen, chat tonight.

1832
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,200
Y'all were awesome.
Awesome.

1833
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,560
Bring that energy every week
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1834
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,800
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1835
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,880
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1837
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1838
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1845
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1847
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1848
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1849
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1850
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1851
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Very special episode.
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1852
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:22,200
professor down at Virginia Tech,
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1853
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,240
Showtime Lakers, on Magic
Johnson, on Jordan, on Kobe.

1854
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,360
Me and Brian got to sit down
with him last week to talk about

1855
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,880
basically college football.
And he had spent some time with

1856
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,320
Brent Pryor and the kids in the
spring, in the summer.

1857
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,920
So check that interview out.
He was great to talk with Tally.

1858
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,160
I kid you not, you and Brian
could probably sit with him for

1859
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,600
3-4 hours and just listen to
basketball stories.

1860
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,680
I mean.
And and if you haven't caught it

1861
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,520
yet, go ahead and get the the
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1862
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:53,720
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The the the write up love in the

1863
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:55,480
time of nil is.
Great.

1864
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,480
It's in there.
It's it's it's a great piece and

1865
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:01,200
he was a great guest.
So he look forward to sharing

1866
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:02,800
that with y'all tomorrow.
But go check that out.

1867
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,760
Absolutely.
We appreciate y'all for

1868
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,560
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1869
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,760
listening.
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1870
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:10,840
OK.

Tim Cox