This week your boys Curtis & Brian are discussing NIL & the transfer portal and the effects they are having on collegiate sports, particularly college football. We also breakdown a busy week of recruiting for Pry & Co, talk on Reach for Excellence fundraising status, & celebrate the success the Hokies have had so far in Spring sports.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast on a walk-off

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Wednesday.
That's right.

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Yes sir walk all I'm gonna say
I'm Brian Siegel.

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Yeah, just walk it off.
Their Hokies baseball against

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Liberty got two in the ninth.
After going scoreless for eight

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Innings, that's the way you.
It's one of their sluggish

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midweek games and you can pull
those out way to go.

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It's is a buddy.
Matt, Neal always said, it's

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midweek college, baseball, you
never.

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What is going to happen.
And tonight, they couldn't score

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and they get two in the ninth.
The Bases Loaded Goodwin Goodwin

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going into a big series which
we'll discuss in a little while.

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But buddy, happy hump day.
Welcome back to the first time.

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We've had a show solo since
that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We haven't ridden.

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Solo in a wild, man.
I almost forgot how to do it.

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I've got ya.
All right though, let's see how

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this goes, even over the last
three months, everybody.

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That's Come on as guests our
buddy Rob e, Compton the white

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Vic.
David Cunningham with text

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sideline, Jordan Williams, which
got a great story about him on a

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sharing.
A second.

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Who else Mikey Mike, McDaniels?
All you got is who came on all

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sometimes, as always, but I want
to hit real quick.

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Brian about Jordan Williams.
He was on with us in a few weeks

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later.
He ran a camp down at Cox.

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He, I think he mentioned it
during the show if he didn't, he

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definitely was pushing it out on
social media and a girl, I went

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to college with her son, got to
go to this camp and she was just

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raving about how awesome it was
how awesome Jordan was.

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He had guys like T, Higgins down
there, helping out with the

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drills and it made me even
happier that we had him on the

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show, just a few weeks before
that.

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Yeah.
I mean, he was hoping that up on

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social media a lot.
I know, I retweeted it and

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shared it out so it sounds like
it was a big hit down there and

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you know, kudos for him for
running that well and being so

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personal with everybody that
showed up for that, it's awesome

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man.
Just doing what he can.

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And obviously, he got drafted or
signed with the dolphins after

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the draft which is great for
him, but man, you talked about

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like of that, Florida weather.
So he's back, he's back down

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there and in the floor.
AA.

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But I mean when he training in
Miami.

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Yeah.
Well he was training down in

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Florida.
I don't know if those Miami but

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he was training, either way.
He didn't have to move too far

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so great for him and a lot of
the other guys will mention a

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little while as well.
But Prime we have so many things

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to break down.
Let's hit some kind of news and

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notes headlines before we get
into the deep stuff and let's

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start with this.
The Fuller Brothers officially

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have a room.
Now, in the Virginia Tech

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football facility, the defensive
back room.

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Are you shocked by that?
Not sure.

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Why not?
Shocked at all.

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But Vince, Cory Kylie and
Kendall make a, I'm guessing a

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pretty hefty donation to
Virginia, Tech to get that.

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Get that name on there because
you don't, you don't pay five,

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you don't pay six figures for
room.

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Usually pay a lot for and it's
awesome.

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What that families meant to the
university to the football

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program, that that happened.
Yes, it's a big moment for them

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and it just goes to reinforce,
you know, the the families, the

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brothers that that end up
playing for the Hokies and it

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just goes to reinforce that for
future Generations.

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Now, they look at that Fuller
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You know, that's not, that's not
named after one brother, that's

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named after in honor of all four
of them.

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So, Four brothers.
And then, one of the statements

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that Kyle said talking about
Coach Prime, the entire staff

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had made a very concerted
effort, connect with the entire

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lung by base and we feel welcome
in Blacksburg.

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It's awesome to hear that
probably made a comment about

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the tremendous contribution that
financially they made to the

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football program and then this
comes out a few days after the

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reach for excellent goal.
Brian.

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There's a 400 million-dollar
gold yet.

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Five years is the expectation
right?

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Yeah it was it was a five-year
timeframe put on the to reach

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the goal for the fundraising In
Your Wildest Dreams.

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Did you think they would hit
halfway right at a year after

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announce them?
I did not I did not think we

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would be having a Bon Jovi
situation already.

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We're halfway there.
We're halfway there.

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It's wild 400.
Dollar campaign, 200 million.

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The Press was at least was just
after the spring game on the

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28th of February, few days after
our last podcast.

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And I mean, it's the bump,
right?

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I think it's the bump.
Yeah, I mean, this is a, it's a

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athletic wise reaching thing,
but I think having what we've

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had with Coach proc come on, On
how he's been on social media,

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how active he's been in the
community, how active he's been

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at fundraising events.
When people get that, people are

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a hell of a lot more willing to
open up their wallets and their

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checkbooks.
Yep, bro.

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Campaign like this, what I'm
interested to see if the numbers

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ever come out is, how much did
donations pick up?

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End of November first part of
December.

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And I'm not just saying that as
went a compared to Prior.

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I'm saying that as the momentum
behind Athletics, as a hole

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between cry, getting hired and
the things he's done since he's

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been here, the Run for the men's
basketball women's basketball.

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And now everything that the
spring sports are doing with

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softball and baseball, which I
know we're about to get to, but

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I think if you look at Kind of
the way things are going with

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all the sports.
And I don't want to leave out

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wrestling either.
No, you know, or remember yeah,

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eventually.
Yeah.

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It was like, not to be joking
about like serious situations,

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but it's like, we're in the
middle.

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We're in the middle of the
ocean.

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Everything was calm in this
thing underneath the ocean

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called Brent, fry erupted, and
it's just been this huge tsunami

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of momentum, like you said,
through the winter, Ports.

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And now, we're into the spring
Sports and they're carrying it.

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And, I mean, you know, let's
flip to that Brown.

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Let's talk about the softball
team.

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I mean, they're already the
regular season Champs.

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Yep.
There without a shadow of doubt

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that I have a regional in
Blacksburg.

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In man you got to kind of think
their number two in the country.

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Yeah.
Unless they say how did you say

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it the other day about them?
Not being able to host the Super

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Regional?
A whole lot of teams behind

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them.
Got to do some good shit and

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they've got a pretty much lose
immediately.

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Yeah, early and often it's going
to be, I mean, Regional host

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seems locked at this point.
Super Regional hope, seems very

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likely.
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Even, I mean, because you sit
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them, and I'm looking at the USA
Today.

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Rankings Florida, State,
Arkansas, Alabama, UCLA,

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Oklahoma State, Arizona, State.
That's the top eight Dukes.

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Nine.
You know, they beat you can a

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series, they beat FSU in a
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What are you value more?
So, let's say they don't have a

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great tournament.
Do you value duker Florida,

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State potentially getting hot in
the tournament and doing

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something, or do you value a
regular season?

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Which essentially what that's a
Super Regional is, it's a

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regular season, best-of-three
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You went to you go to the
College World Series.

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Yeah.
I think you kind of Honor that

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that format that you're playing.
And I mean, we talk about this

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all the time with we've baseball
to with the whole wild card play

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in that.
I don't like that shit.

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So I'm all about the format is
the format.

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So I think you would ride that
direction in my opinion.

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Yeah, I think you would too.
Yeah.

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Brian does not like the one
playoff format.

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He's Always objected for 2 to 3
every every everything else in

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baseball is the series.
Then you have this one this one

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game for whatever reason is a
one and done.

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The only other scenario that
would be and is a tiebreaker to

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get into the said playoffs.
Anyway, that's the.

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Only other scenario that you
even have this in play and

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you're going to make that, you
know, If you want a team to be

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in the postseason, put them in
the postseason.

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In play it normal, they play it
or play at least a modified

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version of a series.
Weatherizing of three.

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Yeah, two or three different
games series, three games, give

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me a double header and a travel
for the third one.

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There you go.
And if you're traveling, you're

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going to wherever they're going
to play Stadium, you don't give

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the worst team.
We get a home game.

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That's my opinion.
One other thing we forgot to

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mention with softball.
First of all, shout out

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Mackenzie Lauder Hometown girl
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Catcher.
Hello Cheri.

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We heard her dad taught us.
Let's go with your sisters.

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Yep.
One other thing Kela.

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Richard shocker, shocker picture
of the year in the ACC, after

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going 15 and 0.
Who could have seen that coming?

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Not everyone question is, is she
going to get any national

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accolades?
I mean, I think she's guaranteed

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All-American.
Even I mean, thank you, blink.

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At that is Domino's, she can be.
I mean, if if not that's a

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big-time snug.
Oh, maybe that's what we need.

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Then a little snug going into
the little snug going into the

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Into the into playoff mode.
That might be the thing to do,

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all right?
We just mentioned it at the top

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of the program.
A few minutes ago, baseball

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walks off beats.
Liberty baseball is now me get

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it up here.
What are they 34?

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And 634 and ate something
ridiculous up.

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Here we go.
No 34 and 10.

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Excuse me.
Excuse that one little bit there

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again. 77 games left in the
regular.

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Ziggler season, seven games
left.

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You've got a huge Series this
weekend with Louisville.

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Louisville number 7 in the
country by Baseball, America

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text for.
We just mentioned it a couple

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seconds ago.
Brian I think Regional there's

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one of the best 16 teams in the
country.

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They're going to get a regional
birth host regardless.

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Yeah.
We're going I don't think that's

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I don't think that seems
outlandish.

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I'd like I said I think some
serious stuff would have to

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happen in the coming, you know,
a couple weeks for for that to

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be in Jeopardy and you talked
about a big Series against

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Louisville, I think that's going
to be Really the biggest series

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down the stretch for the close
of out, if they can can get that

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series, I feel really good about
going ahead and stamp in them

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for that Regional host.
For sure Regional hosted or

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Conference tournament.
At the end of the month.

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It'll be on Labor Day weekend.
I think it's probably going to

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be some hook.
He's down there.

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It's going to be down in
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So for those who are in the
Charlotte area, I mean I've had

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the opportunity to go to an ACC
Baseball term.

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It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, so fun to go to You're

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seeing you know you've got you
see a lot of talent all over the

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field regardless if you're going
to see the Hokies play or if

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you're going to see the or any
other team play, there is a ton

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of guys who are going to be in
the MLB.

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From the ACC in the, um, coming
year.

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So definitely worth a worth your
time.

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If you're in the Charlotte area
and got nothing else going on

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that weekend.
Well, there's a bunch of Hokies

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in the Charlotte area.
It's not that bad of a drive

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from the Roanoke and Blacksburg
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So if you can get there, get
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If you can get there, get there,
if you can hopefully the ACC

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network will show the games but
we know how funky that network

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is.
They'll be like blacking out

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game showing replays of the pit
spring game or something but hey

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we got the game tonight so oh
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There is a chance.
I Braun baseball softball.

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Ball knocked out.
Let's talk about basketball

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because basketball has had a
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of revamping the roster after
losing some guys.

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And let's look at kind of the
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coming out, is John Camden
transferring in from Memphis?

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You know, Camden was a pretty
much a three star or shooting a

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four-star guy coming out of high
school top, 150 player 68 205.

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What do you think?
I mean is this just Keys light

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from a style and everything?
Now I think he's got a little

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bit more versatility here and
it's the question is going to be

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is he going to be you know that
the three the four, the five.

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I don't know how it's going to
look real to talk a little more

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about some other guys that might
fill in those spots.

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But you can is a guy that gives
you kind of that that

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versatility can do it.
A little bit in the in the front

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and the back court.
You know, could be a big three,

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you could play the poor and
might give you five in a pinch

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depending on if you want to go
small.

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So it does give some flexibility
with how Mi kyung makes the

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lineups there.
It's very, very true.

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And, you know, we needed some,
you know, leaving losing key was

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big, right.
You lose a score.

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Well they go out.
Look at the lower level parts of

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D1.
They go out to Wright State and

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get Grant Basile the 69
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Wisconsin.
Last year, averaged 18 and a

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half in game, eight and a half
boards.

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A game shot. 50% from the field
and did it get some good

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competition to you know they
lost Arizona in that opening

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game.
He skill scored, 21, grab five

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boards, three blocks, any shot,
you know, Forty percent from the

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field against a really good
Arizona team.

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So he's coming from a small
school but he's shown that he

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can play with the bigger guys.
Yeah.

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Sure.
These are both the bigger guys

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and he's shown that he can do a
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He's got a similar skill set to
illuma but I think he's a little

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bit more willing to bang in the
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So there might be a little more
rebounding Edge there with him

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on the court.
Not probably not quite as Good

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stepping out.
But, you know, we'll see what we

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can get from him.
But he's part of this, big,

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revamping of the front court
that Mike young needs to do in

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order to be ready for this
upcoming year with.

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But it's kind of still hanging
in the balance there and illuma

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already declaring for the draft,
it's very true.

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And then just yesterday they get
one more front court.

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Now, I'm hoping I'm pronouncing
his name, right?

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My li G.
You'll petite.

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And I'm pretty Oz in the last
name, right?

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69 £260 transferring from rice
from Reidsville North Carolina.

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So you actually went to high
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very probably familiar with
Virginia Tech last year 7, know,

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right out eight points a game
grabbed over for boards a game

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and you know, limited minutes on
the averaged about 13 minutes of

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game.
But that's a big body down low.

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And it feels like Or at times,
there were games this year, we

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were missing, not necessarily A
7-footer but just a big body

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that could, you know, give some
fouls make guys have to work

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hard.
And to me, he kind of fills that

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role when they want to go with a
more defensive.

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Maybe not a score and Presence
at the 5.

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Yeah, I don't know if he's going
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the five or if he's going to be
coming off the bench and kind of

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just you know playing with some
of the matchups they are to give

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Guys, a blow.
But I definitely think you've

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got some potential here.
Average 13 minutes.

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We saw when his minutes went up,
his scoring went up, so it isn't

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just a, you know, more minutes
is getting more production which

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is a good sign especially if
he's asked to even do, you know

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up to 18 or 20 even if he's
coming off the bench but it's a

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big body.
It's a guy that downloading get

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some rebounds for you.
I don't Know if he's going to

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end up having more of a guess on
or or a big Jon type role in the

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offense or if they're going to
try to do something different

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with him but I think it's a
solid pick up and again

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reinforces that that front Court
it does I definitely don't think

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he's a story.
I definitely think he's a bench

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guy.
Boring match up.

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You know, you take somebody like
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There you go.
Is he still following him score

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some points on him?
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But is he going to have to work
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Absolutely.
And then, you got five fouls to

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give, so I mean, I see that out
of this, I think was seals

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probably going to be the
guaranteed starter, just because

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Camden got no play last year.
You got to figure out exactly

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what he is.
He wasn't hiring guy coming out

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but he doesn't have that
experience.

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Like Basile does what were we
thinking today?

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The Duel is definitely the point
guard right there is Maddox or

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is Couture your too.
I think I like Maddox at the two

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and then depending on how what
we find out, we can get from

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Camden.
Either start with Camden and use

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Couture is kind of your your 23
pivot player Off the Bench or

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you can use you kick a tour in
there and use Camden as the

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pivot from the 34 as a sub Off
the Bench there and then ship

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Couture to the to the to Camden
comes on when you need to and

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you got War Two values like
Rodney rice coming in.

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I think what I'm already putting
in my head as the first couple

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months be patient.
Because I think last year a lot

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of us and I'm one of them, I was
not patient, we were losing

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those games.
I wasn't but I think as I got

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into it, what Mike young was
trying to do is find his best

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rotations, his best Combos and
once he got it figured out,

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right?
That's when the run from January

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to March happened in, obviously,
when you're bringing in, what

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five and you guys, 16.
You guys, yeah, even a couple of

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them who are very highly, touted
freshman.

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You've got to figure out what
they're going to do.

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Now, what's going to help
everybody if this can happen is,

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you know, we're waiting on
Justin months.

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Yep.
Know if Justin much comes back.

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I will feel a hell of a lot
better about this team early

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then later in the season.
Yeah, because you're talking

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about a it's not just Couture
being the kind of the big leader

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on the floor out the gate.
And when we talked about

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starting lineups, that might be
the difference between having

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Couture's, the starter is, you
know, is much coming back.

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If months doesn't come back,
must does come back.

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I should say you have less of a
need to Have Couture is your

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starter on the floor because he
is going to be the de facto

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leader in that group, if mutts
isn't coming back, but what's

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coming back?
It gives you more flexibility

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with your lineup.
If Candice little bit further

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along you, don't necessarily
need that leader on the floor in

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that starting unit out the gate.
So abso-freakin'-lutely that's

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going to be, that's going to be.
I think the interesting point is

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that if blood cells come back, I
think that that would be a big

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big boost for that team because
again, you get more matchup

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flexibility there and lineup
flexibility.

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Well, that's a lot of
flexibility, probably.

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Yeah, the line of flexibility is
the big key on that, the sun is

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to the portal.
I think, with the pickup or

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Poteet yesterday, I think the
song is probably not going to

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come back.
That's just my field.

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Um, and then, you know, keep got
invited to the G, we really try

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out which is, you know, good for
him.

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He does.
He he stayed around an extra

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season where last year, he
didn't get any invites.

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He's worked his way up to the G
League tryouts.

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Definitely, I think he has a
chance maybe to eventually make

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a roster.
If not, I think he voloom is

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going to go overseas and make a
lot of money playing Euro league

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basketball.
Yeah, yeah, it's good for him.

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Yeah, I mean he's a solid
player, you know, has a lot of

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Versatility in his game able to
step back and take the three can

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do a lot of things in the post
down low.

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So hopefully, you can catch on
somewhere and make it happen.

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Abso-freakin'-lutely.
All right, Brian baseball,

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basketball softball.
We talked to money, dude.

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If I told you three weeks ago
that today June 11th, 2022, that

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the Hokies would be ranked 21st
and to 47s recruiting rankings.

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What would you have said to me
out of said, you're full of

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shit.
And that would have been like

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I'm probably in Polish it
because I don't sound right.

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But you know guys if y'all been
paying attention, what a

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whirlwind getting six recruits
in three weeks and man they are

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from all over the place.
And let's start with the first

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guy that committed not long
after not long after the spring

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game from right here in the RV,
a just down the street from me.

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Jason Abby from Truman High
School 64, 215 Edge player,

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ranked as an 84 by 247 Sports.
You know, this kid had somebody

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come with a salt with the
freemen coach not long after

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this happened, this kid just
started playing football.

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And he's picking up this much
momentum.

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I mean, were you able to even
find any tape on him?

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Is there anything out there
because he's just played a

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couple years?
And I mean last year would have

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been his junior year.
There's some out there but

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there's not a ton.
I mean he is a he's a tall lean

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type of defensive end Edge
presents.

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You think probably in terms of
build similar to To a bar.

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No is right now. 64 215.
Probably going to need some,

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some weight to be able to work
into a 2d parole in this

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defense.
But, you know, it's one of those

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things where out the gate, when
you try to build build rosters

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like this and fill in some
spots, you know, if you can't,

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you know, recruit top in Talent
recruit guys that have good size

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and have good speed and he's got
some good speed.

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Absolutely, you know, super long
wingspan.

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Did the athleticism show on the
tape that you saw?

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, it
definitely pops.

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You can tell he's an athlete.
Awesome.

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You know so you get one, you
stay in state, you get kind of

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under the radar guy, from a
school, not known to put out a

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lot of big products but from the
way it looked they hid Deep Run.

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They had Godwin.
I'm assuming they probably

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stopped by Freeman at some of
those blitzes and hey, let me

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let's see this kid like that kid
that kid.

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Yeah, here's an offer.
It made the little param circle

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there.
Exactly.

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All right.
So they weren't done in the

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state of Virginia.
Yet they go right in the back

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door and they actually get a kid
who came over from Europe from

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Germany.
Now, there's some jokes out

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there about German offensive
lineman's but with the name like

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Hans Zimmer.
Yeah.

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Six six and a half and 275
pounds, he was not rated by 24.

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7, when, you know when when
everything was coming down they

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got ahold of this tape, they
already put it in the top 20 in

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Virginia and already gave an 87.
You get to see some of his stuff

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yet because I know they're he's
in a private school down at

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North Cross which is a private
school down, in Roanoke.

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Yeah, I watched some of that.
I mean, he looks like a guy that

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is kind of that.
Classic underrated Wisconsin

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Style.
An offensive lineman.

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You see?
Why Rudolph would have targeted

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a player like him.
I think you still a little raw

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but I think he's got good size
and he's showing some promise

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out the gate.
And I think Rudolph just needs

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to buff out the edges there and
he's going to be a solid pick

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up.
All right.

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Can I say something that I
remember texting you?

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Or we talked about this over the
phone when he committed I think

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the 66 is legit.
I do.

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I do think that.
I think that's why Joe Rudolph

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00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:51,800
pulled the trigger on.
And I think he went and saw this

448
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,600
kid in person known in Roanoke.
In, like legitimately, like he's

449
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,000
legitimately six-foot-six.
He legitimately 275 pounds.

450
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,000
I can work with this.
Yep.

451
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:08,500
And, you know, again, it's an
in-state pick up, it's out of

452
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,500
the country.
That's one of those weird back

453
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:16,500
and forth things, but When you
see that happen, where God

454
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:21,500
doesn't get ranked and he gets
put just at an 87.

455
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,600
What does that tell you these
analysts are seeing when they

456
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,600
look at him.
Well, it's tells you that Number

457
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,800
one, he's probably been under
offered based on what they're

458
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,900
seeing and based on some of the
buzz that's coming out recently

459
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200
regarding that player.
You know, it's not just okay.

460
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,300
Well, he committed to Tech, he's
got at least be an 85, right?

461
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,500
Or something like that.
Yeah, you know there's some

462
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,600
other things that go into a bump
like that.

463
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,800
Yeah.
Usually, you know a guy commits

464
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,900
to a power file.
That doesn't have any power 5

465
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,400
offers.
That's like a de facto 84.

466
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,200
Yeah, 85.
Yeah.

467
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,300
You don't bump a guy 287 off
that so they're definitely

468
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:11,800
seeing something else and you
mentioned the 66 so 24/7 has him

469
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,000
six six and a half.
The fact that they added the

470
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,200
half tells me that, he's at
least a full 66 because you

471
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
don't throat, if he was trying
to bullshit, he would have

472
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,700
thrown it to 67.
If you bullshittin, he would

473
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,200
have, would have been bigger
than that.

474
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:31,500
So it's pretty awesome to hear
that.

475
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,200
All right, this is an offensive
lineman podcast.

476
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,800
We've always made that point
clear.

477
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,500
They pick up another commitment
from an offensive lineman

478
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:48,900
Gabriel Arena.
You listed 65 to 85 Bishop

479
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,500
McDevitt.
Whoo whooping, Harrisburg

480
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,700
Pennsylvania, we know Brent
prize, love for Harrisburg.

481
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,500
Bishop McDevitt is a private
Catholic School up there with a

482
00:30:00,508 --> 00:30:03,500
pretty good football reputation
and if you're wondering why I'm

483
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:07,400
saying pretty good football
reputation, Katie McCoy went to

484
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,000
the school, Noah Spence.
Noah Spence was a huge recruit

485
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:17,500
back, a few years ago, LaRon
McCoy went to the school.

486
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,000
So this is one of those they're
going to put out.

487
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,200
Players and it doesn't take
every 20 years.

488
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,700
Yep.
Offers from both green and

489
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:32,100
places like that.
What did the Gabriel Arena take

490
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,200
tell you, you know, 85 3 star
about 24/7?

491
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,300
Yeah, I mean again another guy
with pretty good size, a little

492
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:44,300
raw, but the thing that jumped
off for me, is this one's got a

493
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:48,500
motor and he's got a nasty
streak and I think that's,

494
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,300
that's going to be good for this
offensive line.

495
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,000
And again, this is this is kind
of another guy that is very much

496
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
in the Rudolph.
Rudolph footprint there.

497
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Right now, this is the type of
player that he that he tends to

498
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,900
recruit.
He's found some a bunch of

499
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:09,100
Diamonds in the Rough and
develop them into NFL Talent.

500
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,800
So hopefully Arenas another one
of them.

501
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,900
And when we look at Bishop
McDevitt, you get Arena.

502
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,400
But I know we're also taking a
look at their running back to

503
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Marquis.
Um, so there's there's some

504
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,100
other talent.
I think we're looking at from

505
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,100
me, give it that could
potentially come into play down

506
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:32,200
the road in this class as well.
So, yeah, and a lot of what's

507
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,200
going on right now is the the
setups to get in line for no

508
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:41,700
other players.
And it's being discussed all

509
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:47,200
over Twitter and group chats,
and things were part of When you

510
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,700
take someone from Bishop when
you start, trying to get your

511
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:53,800
inroads and keep, you know,
underrated local kids at home,

512
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:58,000
it's kind of big.
And you know, you talk about

513
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,500
Brian, what was the name?
Don't let Marcus Williams.

514
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:06,600
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a setup.
Marquis Williams is a top-five

515
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,300
player in the state of
Pennsylvania.

516
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,800
He's a top 24/7 player.
Every move.

517
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,600
It's we're not.
We're in an era where not in

518
00:32:16,608 --> 00:32:18,400
there.
We're with the staff that

519
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,000
understands to get to Point C.
You need to start working

520
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
through A and B.
You can't just jump to see all

521
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,800
of a sudden so it's you know I
know we talked about it a little

522
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,000
bit you know.
Jason Abby is the anomaly here.

523
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,200
What we're seeing with a lot of
these recruits that we've gotten

524
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600
even though they're not
necessarily High three or four

525
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,900
star players there from schools
that have a rich history of

526
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:49,800
putting out Collegiate and NFL
Talent.

527
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,700
In the next one that committed
exact same way.

528
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,500
Dante love it and DeMatha.
Yep.

529
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,800
If you basically Collegiate
basketball Collegiate football,

530
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:12,800
DeMatha puts out a ton of each.
He is 3 star 87, but the way

531
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,800
they were talking about him as
he was leading up to, he's one

532
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,100
of these kids that could take a
massive.

533
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,500
Of massive jump in his senior
season.

534
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,800
Yeah, big jump could be coming
for him really talented.

535
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,200
I think he might end up at
safety, but I think he could

536
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,900
play Corner as well.
If we were rating and probably

537
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:38,400
as a safety, he'd be higher out
the gate, okay?

538
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
That that's my opinion.
I think he'd have a higher

539
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,100
rating if you rating him just as
a safety.

540
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:47,900
But yeah, I think he definitely
could be in line for a bump.

541
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:52,900
I think he's one of the guys
that he's gotten some look but I

542
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:55,500
think with a good senior season,
he can really get a bump and

543
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,300
probably be either.
He definitely going to be in

544
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,600
that high three-star range could
be in the forest our range.

545
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:05,200
Yeah, and taking a look into
math with the top 12 including

546
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,900
Dante, love it.
They have two more.

547
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:09,699
They have D top player in the
state of Maryland, and they've

548
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,100
got the number 9 player in the
state of Maryland.

549
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,699
Also something to keep an eye on
as well.

550
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,600
Saint Frances Academy who prowls
able to hold onto two of our

551
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,199
better recruits last year.
Also has a guy in the top five

552
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,800
for defensive line.
So you know and then another guy

553
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,500
in the top 15.
So just continue to keep

554
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,600
thinking about that.
You know, love is 61 185 If he

555
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,000
if that's his true size He
doesn't really have to come in

556
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,500
and do too much weight gain to
play.

557
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400
Especially they started at
corner initially thought.

558
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,000
Yeah, a little bit of weight
game that you can play

559
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,100
undersized safety feature.
You know, we're not talking

560
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,900
about is we're not talking about
a big amount either.

561
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,500
No, not a big amount either.
All right.

562
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:01,500
So, you know, we were sitting
here last night, please, I was,

563
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,200
you know, all of a sudden, Brent
try brim Pride drops his signal,

564
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:11,600
And everybody's like, who is it,
who was it, who was it, who is

565
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,600
this?
And a guy I think a lot of

566
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,600
people have been expecting to
commit to Virginia Tech at some

567
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,900
point this spring summer it has
Marcel Baylor, sticks 3195 out

568
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:27,700
of Radford High School
three-story, six.

569
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:33,300
Keep the local guys who have
development potential, keep them

570
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:37,100
keep them their state got
development potential.

571
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,400
I think there's some real upside
with him.

572
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,200
He's already got a good build
coming out of high school.

573
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200
We showed him a lot of love you
know.

574
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:52,200
The videos are out there of him
arriving on campus and the love.

575
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,500
That was there was shown out for
him and I think you know, we

576
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,600
were talking about early on we
thought he might be one of the

577
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,900
first ones to jump in the boat
crew you know, with how far

578
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:07,100
along we he was Early in the
process.

579
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:11,300
I'm glad to see that we close
the deal there at least in terms

580
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:15,200
of the verbal commitment there.
So yeah, let's keep it moving

581
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,800
because we still had one more
you do.

582
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,600
Had one more home Baylor though
and back on love it.

583
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,300
Love its primary.
Recruiter was Derrick Jones

584
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:30,500
secondary was piercing Prelude
Marcel's primary was piercing so

585
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,300
for Pearson and I know he
definitely has a great

586
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,000
relationship with Radford High
School coaching there for a few

587
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,800
years but to get piercings feet
wet, get him a couple wins early

588
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:43,700
with a guy with his personality,
his football knowledge, a big

589
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:46,800
old ring to walk in actually a
lot of rings because the time he

590
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,800
played here plus the Super Bowl
and all those years spend the

591
00:36:49,808 --> 00:36:54,200
NFL he has something to walk
around with puts Ron's point.

592
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:02,100
We were not done 4 p.m. today.
A quarterback from a Georgia

593
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,900
Power House.
Yep.

594
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Rob said Dylan, witek it, I'm
pronouncing his name wrong.

595
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Sorry, 3 star out of Buford High
School who were state champs

596
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,900
last year.
You know, they talk about

597
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,100
multi-sport athlete.
Runs track, plays, baseball

598
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:29,500
clock, that of 45 at the Elite
11 back in 2022. 37-inch 4.31.

599
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,400
In short, vertical, T back in 21
when he was the backup won a

600
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,900
State title.
This guys coming from a pet of

601
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:41,000
be program and he's athletic as
hell.

602
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,700
Yeah.
Where it is, he can swing the

603
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,400
ball a little bit to definitely
unpolished.

604
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:53,800
I think a little bit in that
area but has the cannon to get

605
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,500
the ball down the field and can
make all the throws that you

606
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,900
wanted to make.
I don't think he's as much of a

607
00:38:00,908 --> 00:38:03,700
project as a couple of the other
quarterbacks that we've seen

608
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:06,900
lately.
You know, that have sitting

609
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:12,700
there similar athletic traits
Big Arm, I think he's a little

610
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:18,100
bit more game ready?
And I think he matches what

611
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:20,800
we're trying to do on offense.
May be a little better than some

612
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,800
of the guys didn't come through
in the past who weren't

613
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,300
necessarily good scheme fits
even though they had some

614
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,500
physical tools.
It's very true and you talked

615
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,900
about kind of being game ready,
even in a backup role last year,

616
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:36,300
he got a chance to play as their
change of pace back.

617
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:40,000
As what they listed here is his
background, he can bleed it over

618
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,500
60% of his passes for close to
six hundred fifty yards and

619
00:38:43,508 --> 00:38:47,400
seven touchdowns.
That's pretty good for a backup

620
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200
you know usually you're hoping
if you got a change of pace guy

621
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,300
just when you throw 50 percent
can you just get 50%?

622
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:57,400
Don't don't fuck it up.
Get some good runs hand the ball

623
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,700
off.
So it's it's pretty awesome that

624
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,500
you know, it's in we're in the
top 20.

625
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,700
You know we've already said it
top 35, or better this year and

626
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:14,700
sort of a rebuild would be great
to get this kind of momentum

627
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:19,500
going in May because we're three
weeks out from one camp start.

628
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,300
Yep.
If the me if we can get one more

629
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,400
between now and that first camp
in June, you're talking about

630
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,500
going in with eight guys.
And that would be a big momentum

631
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,900
because then you're going to get
probably some Elite Talent

632
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:37,200
coming in, and the coaches, to
be able to make the cell.

633
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,700
Yeah, bunch of official visits
are paying for those camps in

634
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,300
June, as well surrounding those
camps.

635
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:46,700
So I think that's going to be
big for a lot of these players,

636
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
getting them in, give them on
campus, some of the ones that

637
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,900
we're waiting to pull the
trigger on, seeing what they can

638
00:39:53,900 --> 00:40:00,000
do in these drills against Maybe
potentially bigger stronger

639
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200
talent.
I think that's going to be big

640
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,300
for them.
And yeah, like I said, it could

641
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:11,100
be a really June, could be a
really big month after, you

642
00:40:11,107 --> 00:40:13,700
know, we kind of kicked off may
pretty good as well.

643
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:17,500
So, you know, I like I said
we're not expecting.

644
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,100
You know, big big moves this
year?

645
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:26,500
I think, I think, right now it's
this is a fill the roster where

646
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:30,300
you need to fill the roster.
Yep, with solid Talent.

647
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Go out, develop them, and win
some games in 22, and then, then

648
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,500
you got something to sell on the
road.

649
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:43,800
For next year.
Yeah, that's that's the big key.

650
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,600
It's do I expect maybe us to get
one or two four stars this

651
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,800
cycle?
Yeah, one or two.

652
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,700
I think we're going to pick off.
I think we've got enough good

653
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:57,000
Recruiters in the building.
Do I expect it to be 8 or 9.

654
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,800
Unless you know unless something
crazy happened and we're sitting

655
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,600
here in November saying, hey
we're seven and one.

656
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Are you bleep?
Kidding me?

657
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,700
Like that's when you can flip
that on to having a really good

658
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,100
season but I wanted to discuss
one other thing.

659
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:17,000
Braun Brent pry from day.
One has been preaching.

660
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,600
The six hour radius, the six
hour radius, the 6:00 hour

661
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:27,600
radius Dylan would a key is the
farthest player from his

662
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,000
hometown to Blacksburg.
You don't know how long that

663
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,300
drive is.
Tell me, man, five hours, 55

664
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:47,100
minutes, these are saved it.
As you've got, you know, a be

665
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:50,800
here in Richmond, three hours,
you got, Lance Williams and

666
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,100
Alco.
It's about a four and a half

667
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,400
hour drive Hammers and Rona.
That's right there.

668
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,800
Baylor's in Radford right there.
Reena in Harrisonburg what?

669
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,800
1/2 hours the math about for.
He said that was his plan and he

670
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,000
has stuck to with us far.
Yep.

671
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:16,000
And I like that where we're not
ignoring the state's next to us

672
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,500
in either direction.
This this isn't just You know

673
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,500
what?
Let's touch the schools in the

674
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,000
states.
We've had a history with.

675
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Yeah, we're doing that but we're
tapping into some areas in that

676
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,400
footprint that we haven't
historically been doing well at

677
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,900
particularly Pennsylvania we've
already done.

678
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:39,300
What done some somewhat?
Well, there we got.

679
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,700
A DeMatha kid in a battle
against Maryland.

680
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,100
We beat Maryland for kid in
their backyard.

681
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:47,600
You always, you always talk
about it.

682
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:51,400
Those are the winds, we Need to
take 80% of the time.

683
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,900
Yep.
Take those 80% of the time you

684
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,600
start doing that and getting
players like, a kid of love.

685
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,600
It's caliber, who is an 87?
Who's to me?

686
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,200
That's a higher three.
That's not a high high 3 and 88

687
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,100
or 89, but that's a higher
through.

688
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,500
It's more than a mid three to
me.

689
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:13,000
But you beating Maryland form.
Now the next couple like you

690
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,100
always talk about if we have to
go against NC State for a kid

691
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,600
for like trying to throw another
name out.

692
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,500
Or South Carolina.
And I mean I mean even wake at

693
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,700
this point.
Yeah.

694
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,900
Go win those four out of five
times.

695
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:29,400
Yeah.
When the battles that you can

696
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,800
win, you know, you're not going
to always, I mean, even in the

697
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,700
regional footprint, you're not
always going to be UNC your Penn

698
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:38,500
State, but you need to pretty
much all the time.

699
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,500
Beat NC State beat dude, beat.
Wait feet Maryland.

700
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,700
True, very true, beat, it beat
Kentucky.

701
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
You can tuck in Tuck you if you
Kentucky's in play for somebody.

702
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,500
Be in lieu of them places like
that.

703
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,500
That's the one.
You gotta win 80% of the time.

704
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,900
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Now, back to the episode.
Paris, Brian, let's take a look

715
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:34,200
at the portal because since we
last talked, we didn't get into

716
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,800
the portal that week because we
were talking about the spring

717
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,400
game, a couple guys.
We already know Gordon Bronson

718
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,900
Kong ties.
Gary gone.

719
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:45,700
We didn't mention it last time.
Oversight Jared.

720
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:49,300
Gible got in the portal tight
end but since then man, it's

721
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:51,500
been a flood.
Yep.

722
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:55,800
Marco lie in the portal, already
committed to South Alabama, glad

723
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,200
he found a place to play
defensive back to Sean Elder.

724
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,100
Walk on Jabari Parker out of
Highland Springs, Bryce

725
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,300
Governor, which I think that's
going to be a big talking points

726
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:09,700
here.
Jalen Hampton.

727
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:14,800
And the deer Thompson and I'm is
DJ Simms, is he in?

728
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,500
Or is he out?
I thought he was back in, not

729
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:22,200
now.
Sorry back in as in part of the

730
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200
roster, I'd building and put
himself in and then took himself

731
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,100
out of the portal really quick,
maybe it was the wrong name.

732
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:33,100
But, you know, best of luck to
all those guys.

733
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:37,400
First of all, I hope they all
land, somewhere able to compete.

734
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,900
Play the game.
They love get their education

735
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:44,600
completed, but I think the one
of this list, Brian, we started

736
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,800
talking about You like the good
new tape last year?

737
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,000
You thought he'd do good and
heard some things like he was

738
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600
working with second team, then
all of a sudden he's flipped the

739
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,700
defensive line.
Yep, and the next thing, you

740
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:05,600
know, a few weeks later, he's
out in the portal and then he's

741
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,400
already committed to UT
Chattanooga.

742
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:16,300
So little shocked little bit
little bit and I think what I'm

743
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:22,500
going to assume in this
situation is that given the lack

744
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:29,000
of depth that we were looking at
when we were recruiting rice, he

745
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,100
came in thinking he was going to
get some early playing time by

746
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,300
this year.
And I think between a

747
00:46:36,308 --> 00:46:40,400
combination of switching schemes
and it not being as good of a

748
00:46:40,408 --> 00:46:45,300
fit.
Also looking at where he was on

749
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,600
the depth chart with some other
new guys, could there that are

750
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,000
coming into the program, he
wasn't in the two deep anymore

751
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,000
as we were moving through.
Spraying Flip to the defensive

752
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,700
side looked like he wasn't going
to be in the 3D on that side of

753
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:03,800
the ball and decided let me see
what's out there in the program.

754
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:08,000
Yeah and he did and he went down
to an FCS program and UT

755
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,700
Chattanooga I believe is a
decent program and it will

756
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:16,200
Healey coach there for a few
years, but you do there.

757
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,300
But but let's just be honest,
first of all, I'm glad he landed

758
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:24,700
somewhere, but it also shows
you, what we're looking for is

759
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:26,700
going to be a little bit
different because you kind of

760
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:28,600
talked about him.
You like him in that zone

761
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,500
scheme, that we were in
previously, but well, one room

762
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,900
that got cleared up between,
Bronson, Lee, Geary and Hampton

763
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:38,600
running back.
Rooms is now at seven.

764
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Where did a good number?
We know Jalen wholesome is gone.

765
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,300
Next year, were you are you
shocked?

766
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,800
But still glad Kenji.
Christian has not entered the

767
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,900
portal yet.
I am because based on what I was

768
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:57,700
hearing, it sounded like he was
potentially in the doghouse.

769
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:02,800
I'm glad that either that's not
the case or that whatever was

770
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,300
going on with that has been
cleared up to a point where he

771
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:08,100
feels comfortable saying in the
staff feels comfortable with

772
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:11,800
him.
You know, move Lord, you know,

773
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
whatever the situation, I don't
want to speculate on something

774
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,500
that I don't have 100% knowledge
on.

775
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:21,900
So but I think like I said, he's
got he's got good town and I

776
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:24,900
think between the tackles he can
be that type of player for us in

777
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:28,000
this game.
Yeah.

778
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,500
Hopefully I don't know if this
year's going to be that time for

779
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:35,100
him but hopefully by next year
when holsten's out he can slip

780
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,200
into that type of role in this
offense.

781
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:43,500
You know, I think, I think that
we're already kind of found our,

782
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,400
our all-purpose guy with Thomas,
he can be the between the tackle

783
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,300
specials and let guys like King
and chance black be kind of that

784
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,600
that more Gadget type player in
the offense.

785
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,500
All right, if a few months ago,
I gave you a number of nine and

786
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:01,200
a half.
Would you have said over under?

787
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,700
How many guys we have on the
board out of said probably over?

788
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:13,200
At this point we're in eighth.
Um which right now we have one

789
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,700
scholarship to give out to
someone in the portal.

790
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:21,800
But do you think this says a lot
more about potentially burnt on

791
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,200
the culture?
Using still in here?

792
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,100
That he's obviously he had some
hard conversation to guys

793
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,400
because guys have we have a
number of guys that have left

794
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,600
But it's not mass Exodus.
I think we expected.

795
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:40,900
It's not, I mean, we had the
discussions, he had to have,

796
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:44,400
which is, we can't have 10
scholarship, running backs.

797
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:49,800
So we've had that discussion.
That's been, that's been settled

798
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,500
at least to a point, but it
sounds like he had those tough

799
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:58,700
discussions, but it also sounds
like we've got some pretty good

800
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:03,000
buy-in by these, these players
that were already on the Roster.

801
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:07,500
You know whether that ends up
being a good thing, long term,

802
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,500
we'll have to see, but the fact
that he's been able to come in,

803
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:17,100
sell his vision on what he sees
and guys want to be a part of

804
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,900
that, even if they're not
necessarily in the 2D heading

805
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:23,700
into fall says a lot about.
I think the process that we're

806
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:26,300
going through right now you say
process.

807
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,000
I did you said process so
process Well, the other thing

808
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,400
you kind of got to wonder and
it's just a rumor floating

809
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400
around with the NCAA slower.
Frickin molasses in it.

810
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,200
Frickin wintertime is that that
rumor of the potential extra

811
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,800
scholarship somewhere between
three and five for 2022.

812
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:53,300
If that happens.
Where we're at now spine as if

813
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:55,400
you don't respond extra, even
three extra.

814
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:59,100
That's perfect, right?
Curtis, is this the the part of

815
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,000
the program where we're going to
trash?

816
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,600
The NCAA for about a good 20 to
30 minutes?

817
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,900
Um, that probably 20 10 to 12.
Maybe 15.

818
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,100
Okay, let's do 15, let's do 50.
All right first off.

819
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:19,700
Fuck the NCAA rule well I mean
okay, so number one, number one,

820
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,400
Been dragging your feet on
whether or not you're going to

821
00:51:22,408 --> 00:51:25,900
allow some extra scholarships
from this year, after letting

822
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,200
everyone play last year on.
Oh yeah, without you.

823
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:35,500
So, again, this is information
that should have been dulled out

824
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:41,100
before, May shit should have
been built for March, but it

825
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,900
should have a, but absolutely
should have been dulled out

826
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:48,400
before the deadline for players
to get into the portal to be

827
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,000
able to play.
Next year, true.

828
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,200
We're already past that we're 11
days, past that.

829
00:51:54,200 --> 00:52:03,300
So no longer is that even a
thing to think about, but You

830
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:08,000
know, we also have the
scholarship because last year

831
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,500
was like, everyone can play in.
We said on here.

832
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:14,200
Okay, that's great for this
year.

833
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:17,000
How are you going to get that
under control next year?

834
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,500
And you would think they would
have came out pretty quick and

835
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:23,200
said, because the logical thing
is, you don't go from having

836
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,100
what 100 players 95 to 100
players on scholarship.

837
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,400
To getting back down to 85.
The thought process is

838
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,800
graduated, if you're going to
have, don't go.

839
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,200
Even if you only do it one year,
just give some flexibility but

840
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,800
no Curtis like always the NCAA
things.

841
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Problems are going to take care
of themselves.

842
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:50,600
You mean like the ni L?
Yeah I do mean like the Nao, the

843
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,500
NCAA things problems are going
to take care of themselves.

844
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:57,400
They don't and then they just
slap Dash some shit out there

845
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,400
and Hope that things go the way
they want to, which it never

846
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,600
does.
So you get situations like this

847
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,000
with the scholarships where
we're we're late and we don't

848
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,700
know, and no one knows and
people are playing their cards

849
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:11,800
close to the vest because
they're unsure.

850
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:16,700
And then you get situations like
the ni L where you've got Jordan

851
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:24,000
Addison entering the, the portal
based off a potential huge ni L

852
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,600
deal with USC, we million bucks,
he's making more than pick.

853
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,000
Is in the NFL.
Yeah it's wow.

854
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,900
And I'm going to I'm going to
preface everything before I get

855
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:43,000
into this situation with I 100%
still support in il, in theory,

856
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,500
the way it was talked about.
I also and under the current

857
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:50,400
rules support, the players going
out there and getting theirs

858
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,000
because all they're doing is
essentially playing by the rules

859
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,300
that everyone else is playing,
but there's a go get yours.

860
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:03,400
Do what you need to do.
That being said, when everyone

861
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,700
was talking about ni L, what
they were more or less talking

862
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:12,800
about is remember that shit
Johnny Manziel got in trouble

863
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,500
for.
Yeah, that would have been

864
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:17,900
legal, that would have been
allowed.

865
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:19,800
That would not have been
sanctioned.

866
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,100
It was never supposed to be in
theory, a recruiting tool.

867
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:27,900
It was supposed to be.
Once you've been recruited,

868
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,400
you're in college, you can use
your name image and likeness to

869
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,700
make money based off your
abilities once you've been

870
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:41,400
recruited.
The problem is that the NCAA saw

871
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:49,900
this coming to fold over five
years, over five years and sat

872
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:54,800
on their damn hands and then let
it get to a point where states

873
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,800
were passing laws and they were
out of they were they no longer

874
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200
had control of it.
So once they no longer had

875
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,500
control, they slapdash some dumb
shit together and said, here's

876
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:09,100
the policy.
And no one knows what really is

877
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:12,000
and is not legal within this
framework right now.

878
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,700
And really no one gives a shit
because the NCAA is to us their

879
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:18,300
Toothless.
And right now, it's basically

880
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:21,400
the Wild Wild West.
They can come down with any sort

881
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,700
of stuff and I know they're
claiming they're trying to

882
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,000
figure it out and get some rules
in place.

883
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,900
How can you punish someone based
on what we're doing?

884
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:33,000
Will do you can't do this and
you guys did this you didn't

885
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,300
tell us we couldn't do this
until after we had already did

886
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:39,200
this?
Clarification, eight months

887
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,200
later in doing shit, jack shit.
So, should there have been

888
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,300
something?
Yeah, we've been talking about

889
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:48,300
it.
Like legitimately in il deal,

890
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:53,500
shouldn't have been able to be
into place or a offer made until

891
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:58,300
you are signed with a school.
Yeah, you have to be enrolled in

892
00:55:58,300 --> 00:56:01,900
these School fully signed on
scholarship to have the

893
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:04,600
opportunity for an ni L deal.
Not this.

894
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,600
What the hell is going on at USC
trying?

895
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:08,000
To get Jordan.
Addison.

896
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:11,500
Hey hey, three million dollars,
come here and play for us.

897
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:14,400
Okay.
And like and like I said, I'm

898
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,600
not necessarily begrudging.
The folks that are taking

899
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,300
advantage of these situations
there.

900
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,500
They're just doing what the NCAA
has allowed them to do exactly

901
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,700
when you're like with, when a
kid, when a kid habitually does

902
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:29,800
does something wrong, you don't
necessarily look at the kid and

903
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,800
say, okay well do you know the
kids bad?

904
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,300
Well, if if they haven't had a
parameter of which They know

905
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:39,400
this is acceptable behavior in.
This is not.

906
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,800
I mean, they're going to take
advantage of that.

907
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,300
I have no problem with you,
taking advantage of the rules

908
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:48,800
that are there.
But at some point, the NCAA

909
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,000
didn't think.
All right, well if we're going

910
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,300
to move forward with this, how
can we move forward with this in

911
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:58,500
a way that is not only Equitable
for the players, which is the

912
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:04,200
most important part of this.
But also keeps the spirit of the

913
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,100
intent of the level Level
Playing Field as much as can be

914
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:13,400
in the college game exactly.
In will I think it will be?

915
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Will it be self-corrected in the
next two to three years?

916
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,300
Yeah.
Yeah, but you're going to swing

917
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:20,700
to a point to a point.
It will be because it's like I

918
00:57:20,707 --> 00:57:22,800
know you made the point earlier
at some point.

919
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,900
It's not going to be worth for
those boosters to drop three

920
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:27,800
million dollars on every good
player.

921
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,300
No, because you're going to have
your have enough bust where

922
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:34,800
their investment is not
returned, you know, it's our a

923
00:57:34,808 --> 00:57:38,600
lot its return on investment if
you don't or return on Equity,

924
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,000
whatever you want to call it.
If you're out here and you're a

925
00:57:41,008 --> 00:57:44,800
big booster and you know, your
work, you know, eighty hundred

926
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,200
million dollars.
Rich people do not like to lose

927
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
money.
So if you're this guy given n IL

928
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,200
deals, 10 million a year in,
these kids aren't worth a shit

929
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,100
playing eventually, you're going
to look at the school and the ni

930
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:04,800
L program be like fuck y'all.
I'm not giving you any more

931
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,700
money.
Wow, it's been five years.

932
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:09,700
I've wasted 50 million dollars.
We got two good players out of

933
00:58:09,700 --> 00:58:11,700
it.
Why does he need you?

934
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,000
Yeah.
But I'll tell you where the

935
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,400
problem is going to come though
and it's already.

936
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,400
Already seeing it mostly with
the Jordan Addison situation.

937
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,000
It's yeah.
School was like pit or schools

938
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,400
like Virginia.
Tech that develop a talent, they

939
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,700
show out and then a big dog
comes in there and can throw 3

940
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:34,400
million at them for two years.
Yeah, and reap the benefits.

941
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,100
They don't have to worry about
as much of that unknown factor

942
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:40,600
as you will with a high school
athlete.

943
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,600
Yeah, they might be five stars
but even the hit rate on five

944
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,500
stars isn't using a little
proof, right?

945
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,000
No.
So so at that point, you know?

946
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,800
Yeah, 55 most five stars are
still probably going to get some

947
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,900
money thrown at them but you're
not going to see a ton of four

948
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:58,300
stars.
Get good big deals like that.

949
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:01,000
What you will see is the high
three and four-star.

950
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,900
Go to a school like pit or like
Virginia Tech or like NC State

951
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,800
and play for two to three years.
And now, all of a sudden their

952
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,200
star is rising.
And you'll see those big schools

953
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,900
like your bamas, your USC's,
your Oklahoma's, Come ashore and

954
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:20,900
they'll have a booster drop a
meal or two meals out there and

955
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:22,900
say hey come play for us for a
year or two.

956
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,300
Now the bigger, but the bigger
but that's a risk reward, right?

957
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,700
A million dollars is a lot of
money, half billion dollars a

958
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:30,800
lot of money.
Yeah.

959
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,200
But the risk reward on that for
that player is you're going to a

960
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:41,100
whole new school all different
culture on potentially whole

961
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:43,500
different system.
You.

962
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,600
And if you're one of those guys
who are that highly ranked where

963
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,300
it's like, dude you're going to
go in the first four rounds of

964
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:52,300
the draft so you're probably
going to have a few million

965
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:54,400
dollars, guaranteed to you
regardless.

966
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:57,900
Yep.
Do you go to a school?

967
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:01,800
Take the ni L deal but what if
it just absolutely cripples your

968
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,200
stop?
It's a huge risk reward so

969
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:07,900
what's going to happen in that
case?

970
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:11,600
Yep.
Alabama comes and steals a tight

971
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,100
end from Virginia Tech who was
showing out right.

972
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,100
He goes to Alabama, does
nothing.

973
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,700
Instead of getting drafted, he's
sitting on the end of the line,

974
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,800
undrafted free agent, barely on
barely on a practice squad.

975
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,400
But in go see million dollars in
the bank.

976
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:33,500
To that's the piece though, if
you were going to be a top, 100

977
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:35,800
Prospect, what's 2 million
dollars?

978
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,500
It's marginal, right?
I get that.

979
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,600
I get that.
But money in my pocket today is

980
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:46,200
better than money in my pocket
in two years.

981
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,100
Well, what's gonna happen?
I'm just trying to tell you that

982
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,000
that's how a lot of players are
going to see it.

983
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:54,000
But what I'm saying is there's
also going to be stories and

984
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,900
there's going to be where other
coaches such as the smaller

985
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:01,400
schools are going to be able to
say who you can go do that.

986
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:03,500
I understand, take the money.
Don't forget what happened to

987
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,600
these three guys.
In the kids, got to sit there

988
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,800
and be like well shit like cuz
they're still going to be

989
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,500
chances to make what six figures
potentially in schools.

990
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:18,400
Like pit Virginia Tech.
NC State, really good players.

991
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,000
Could at the upside of that
could potentially make something

992
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,100
like that especially over the
course of their entire career.

993
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,700
Yeah so it's a cluster F.
Hopefully in some way it gets

994
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:35,500
Resort about the NCAA we could
possibly be 50 years old when

995
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:39,000
that happens so that just gives
you their timeline.

996
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:43,400
Yeah, the n-c-double-a saw the
Jordan Addison situation.

997
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,400
They were like maybe we should
send out some clarifying

998
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,100
documentation that, that'll
settle things down.

999
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:52,000
That that's what's needed right
now is some clarification

1000
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:55,100
clarifying documentation of what
the rules actually are.

1001
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,400
Obviously, everyone's abiding by
them, they're morons.

1002
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:05,000
And I mean, what the NCAA,
what's it going to take to

1003
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,800
control some like this is, you
got to have a powerhead figure

1004
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:09,700
who will lay hammers down on
people.

1005
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,800
And there's only a few other in
have the respect of the

1006
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,700
Collegiate Community to do it.
Well, in my opinion, uh, coach

1007
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,900
little times, let me say to me
the NCAA commissioner, we need

1008
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:31,700
to have a commissioner. and, a
governing body that Is supported

1009
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:34,200
by the conferences and we don't
have that right now the Congress

1010
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:39,000
has had zero zero faith in what
the NCAA is trying to do as a

1011
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,200
governing body to the point
where they're pretty much trying

1012
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,100
to do it on their own.
The problem is that under the

1013
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:50,800
current rules and the way things
are trending, I'm not sure that

1014
01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:53,100
that's a good thing for college
football.

1015
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,500
If you like college football,
more or less in its current

1016
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:00,500
format, well, I like college
football better from 20 years.

1017
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:05,300
You go but that's just me.
Yeah like I said y'all know me

1018
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:08,300
I'm not an old hair that's out
there saying all right screw

1019
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,300
those players.
The scholarship is enough.

1020
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:13,200
Oh no screw those players.
If you transfer you got to sit

1021
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,100
out a year.
You know I've been as Pro Player

1022
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:21,000
as most people can be and you
brought me to your side as most

1023
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,500
people can be.
I am Pro Player movement.

1024
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:27,600
I am Pro Player, being able to
get money based on their

1025
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,500
abilities.
But that's not, there's a

1026
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:32,900
discipline that in what's going
on right now which is more or

1027
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:37,800
less a pay-for-play situation
that is exclusive to certain

1028
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,000
players because this isn't
certain players.

1029
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,100
Hey, for playing for everyone,
it's it's for if it's a

1030
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:48,500
recruiting tool and it's a tool
to get people to transfer to

1031
01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:51,500
your Universe, it's almost like
there should just be a draft and

1032
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:55,300
we should have salaries.
Someone proposed that a while

1033
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:56,200
back.
I wonder.

1034
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,500
I wonder who did that?
I don't know.

1035
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,900
Go check back 2020 folks when we
again if they do move to that

1036
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:09,600
model the semi pro model, there
needs to be a draft because

1037
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:14,100
you're all you're doing is you
know, licensing.

1038
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:19,200
The Collegiate brand and image.
Anyway exactly not necessarily

1039
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,200
officially a part of the
University anymore.

1040
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,700
So you might as well have a
draft right?

1041
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:25,500
Yeah.
Only fair.

1042
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:30,000
Also only farewell in certain
schools who always get 65 5

1043
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,400
Stars.
They're sitting out there trying

1044
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,000
to get scraps, all that will
never happen.

1045
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,600
They there's too many people in
play that will never allow that

1046
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,200
to happen because they would be
too much parity parity some

1047
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,400
conferences and some schools do
not like well the NCAA better

1048
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,900
act sooner they're going to get
it cut out of their own money

1049
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:54,600
making wagon you damn right by
that in the quicker, the power 5

1050
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,300
gets that together.
To be hilarious.

1051
01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:00,500
All right, Brian, let's talk
about this.

1052
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,300
This happened this week was
first reported by Pete thamel.

1053
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,900
Basically a cc means going on
this week and it's under

1054
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:16,800
discussion that divisions could
be eliminated as early as 2020.

1055
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,700
Three reported later by David
teal.

1056
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:27,500
One of the most popular models
is a re-fixed and you play the

1057
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:29,900
other five teams rotating every
year.

1058
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,200
What do you think of it?
I'd prefer to and six, but I

1059
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,600
like this better than divisions.
So, whatever we end up with is a

1060
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,700
better, a better good start than
what we're doing now, aside from

1061
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:51,600
not wanting to play BC every
year, which I'm hoping that one

1062
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,600
of the three is not be, see it.
Lord, I hope not.

1063
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:58,800
I'm sick of BC.
Yes, we will play them every

1064
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,100
other year, it's fine.
Yeah, we'll still get up.

1065
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,800
They're to Chestnut Hill every
four years they'll get down to

1066
01:06:05,808 --> 01:06:08,400
Blacksburg every four years.
That's good enough.

1067
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:10,900
Let's go, mom.
Yeah, let's get.

1068
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:14,400
Give me UVA.
Give me Miami and give me one of

1069
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,400
either.
Georgia Tech or UNC if we're

1070
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,700
going.
All right, I'm with you on the

1071
01:06:20,707 --> 01:06:24,300
first two Eileen just, because
you've got to kind of keep it

1072
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:27,300
balanced Eileen.
Screw that go Louisville.

1073
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,100
Okay, I like, I like, Lois, but
I've got no beef with

1074
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:34,800
Louisville, being being That
third, well, my model I told

1075
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,300
Brian about this, the model I've
got in my head is thinking

1076
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:42,400
geography and distances because
to me, everybody needs one long

1077
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,500
travel like one travel, where
you've got to go a long ass

1078
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:48,000
ways, that would be Miami for
us.

1079
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,500
That would be us for Miami.
West Virginia's, not joining,

1080
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,600
Robbie West.
Virginia is not joining there in

1081
01:06:55,600 --> 01:07:00,100
the Big 12.
So like and then you have a

1082
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,800
medium somewhere between what
the prop 6 hours for your fan

1083
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,500
base to drive.
That's Louisville Louisville is

1084
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:09,000
roughly five and a half, six and
a half hours from Blacksburg and

1085
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,800
then one short distance.
Or a shorter distance as

1086
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,600
possible.
So that's why I'd go Louisville

1087
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,600
over Carolina or gt.
Just because it's going to be,

1088
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,800
you know, he is right at the
border of that.

1089
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,300
Five to six.
You put up there.

1090
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,300
Yeah.
GTS ride.

1091
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:30,800
The board is about a seven and a
half from Blacksburg.

1092
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:33,500
So it's still, it's still not a
bad drive.

1093
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:36,100
You want to go down there for
its A330 game.

1094
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:38,800
You leave at 6:00 in the morning
from Blacksburg or from this

1095
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,500
area.
You be down there by 1130

1096
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,200
tailgate few hours, go to the
game, right?

1097
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,000
It's a reasonable drive.
So that's kind of the what I'm

1098
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,000
seeing in.
But the biggest thing about

1099
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,300
this, everybody wins, everybody
wins.

1100
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,400
We as fans win, right?
If we have been wins because we

1101
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,900
know every other year, we're
going to play or every every two

1102
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:06,700
years we play everybody in
conference.

1103
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,700
We play everybody in conference.
That's awesome.

1104
01:08:10,700 --> 01:08:13,500
You talk.
Planning to go, you know maybe

1105
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:18,399
going to Clemson or FSU for a
trip or an away game.

1106
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:21,000
You know when it's going to be.
Yeah.

1107
01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:25,100
And it's not like waiting six,
seven years for that to happen.

1108
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:29,700
And it also me and brown we're
looking at like everybody's been

1109
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:31,300
talking about with the Atlantic
has been the dominant

1110
01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:35,100
conference.
Beginning of the ACC, the

1111
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:39,100
coastal look from roughly 2005
to 2011.

1112
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:45,700
The coastal had the To better
teams movers occasions numerous

1113
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:47,200
occasions.
Yep.

1114
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:50,700
So what we're looking at now in
the last ten years it's been

1115
01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:54,899
Clemson and Florida State while
the coast has just been the

1116
01:08:54,899 --> 01:08:57,700
wheel of Destiny.
Yeah, we said it earlier.

1117
01:08:57,700 --> 01:09:02,600
The Atlantic has had usually the
two best teams in a given year,

1118
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,600
the coastal as usually had
three, four and five, hmm.

1119
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:10,600
So the coast of might be a
little, a little deeper.

1120
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:15,200
But they are more in the middle
of the of the pack versus at the

1121
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,800
top end of the, of the cops.
It's true.

1122
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:20,700
But the whole piece about this
especially if you're looking at

1123
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:24,000
a playoff model it's getting
larger you won't your two best

1124
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,600
teams on the stage at the end of
the see if a team is 12 and 0

1125
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,000
and A team's 11 and 1, or even
ten and two playing each other.

1126
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,200
If it's a good competitive game,
you're likely going to get to

1127
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,500
him.
Yep, that's why you're going to

1128
01:09:37,508 --> 01:09:41,000
this model.
And by all means if you do the

1129
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:45,200
Rolling, right?
You won't Miami and VT or you

1130
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,700
want them to play.
You take a look at the, you

1131
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:50,600
know, ten years ago.
Saturday afternoons, pulling

1132
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,700
three and a half four million
people as a 3:30 game.

1133
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:57,900
You want Florida State and
Clemson play, you want the good

1134
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:01,500
teams to play each other because
when it's the known Brands who

1135
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:05,900
are good and ranked people turn
on their TVs to watch that game.

1136
01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:09,800
So it's a win for fans, it's a
win for players, because the

1137
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,200
players, if you stay there for
years, you're going to play

1138
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:18,900
every team away in home.
Yep, you're going to experience

1139
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,400
every atmosphere in the ACC,
which is awesome.

1140
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,300
I'm with you I'm with you.
I think it's going to be a bit

1141
01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:31,100
of a good move for the ACC as a
whole and I think getting rid of

1142
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:35,000
divisions is like you said, good
for fans.

1143
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,600
Fans get to see the Hokies play
teams that they sometimes wait

1144
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,700
for 56 years to play, which is
asinine under the current

1145
01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:49,000
format.
Yeah, completely I'm going to do

1146
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,200
is, like seven years to play
Syracuse.

1147
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,100
Yeah, it took us a while to play
Syracuse, took us a while, to

1148
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:00,500
get in Sea State Louisville
Louisville, yeah, probably shout

1149
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:04,100
out, John Earl, gummy X, NC
State, and you complete each

1150
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:07,000
other since in the last 18
years.

1151
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:13,300
How many poor?
They literally are 40 their,

1152
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:16,200
what 30 minutes from each other,
they played four times in 14

1153
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,000
years.
So we played West Virginia.

1154
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,300
Pretty much the same number of
times.

1155
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:24,600
They played a down the street
rival in the same conference

1156
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:34,100
more more.
All right, let's roll on.

1157
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,600
Let's talk about the drafter
real quick.

1158
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,300
Brian with the Hokies in the
draft, the Hokies get four

1159
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:46,000
players, drafted, James
Mitchell, 177 to Detroit Amar'e

1160
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:51,000
bar, no 189 to Carolina, Luke
tenuta 2009 to Buffalo and let's

1161
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:56,300
see the Smith 215 to Arizona.
Are the other names we've had on

1162
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:58,700
our list and we talked about,
who are you, shocked that did

1163
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:02,800
not get drafted.
Did not get drafted.

1164
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,200
Jermaine Waller.
I thought he would, at least get

1165
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,400
drafted.
Just based off the earlier tape

1166
01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:15,200
and what he did in the front
half of 2021, I think the

1167
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,000
injuries and the back a
performance, as a result of

1168
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,600
those injuries.
Along with, I think, in some

1169
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:28,000
ways, Caleb Farley going so high
and then and then being injured,

1170
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,600
so early in his career.
I think some of that is You're

1171
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,200
playing into that but I think
Waller could you know

1172
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,800
potentially get in there and
stick.

1173
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,500
I think, Detroit side up, awful
fit for him with his skillset.

1174
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,800
Big thing for him is he's got to
stay healthy now, absolutely

1175
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,700
Jermaine with shock to me
because I said, six guys will

1176
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:50,400
get drafted.
He was one shock to me.

1177
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,800
The other was brought as it got
later.

1178
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:57,000
I thought Center versatile,
guard guy would get, would

1179
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,500
someone would just draft him?
Just like this is just a shot.

1180
01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:04,500
Not if he develops right, we've
got a swing guy on the inside

1181
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:09,100
right now.
So I was shocked, even get

1182
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:12,300
drafted, I mean he went to
Cleveland good spot for him.

1183
01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:15,300
They just got rid of JC Treader
who was a pretty experienced.

1184
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:19,200
So there's a couple guys in
front of him but there's not

1185
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:25,300
like that one big you know, Pro
Bowl, solid veteran, type guy,

1186
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:29,000
you're not going to beat out you
know talking about the other

1187
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,400
ones we already talked about
Jordan Williams.

1188
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,300
Go To Miami Trey.
Turner goes to Las Vegas,

1189
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:36,800
Blackshear to Buffalo,
shanghai's to Arizona, John

1190
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,700
Parker, remote catches on with
the Saints.

1191
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,400
Now, let's flip back where you
shot the James Mitchell went

1192
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,500
before anybody else?
No, because I knew that he had,

1193
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:51,000
probably the biggest upside of
any player.

1194
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:54,600
Just based on his size, his
skill.

1195
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:57,000
He's put, he's got pretty decent
tape out there.

1196
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,300
We didn't utilize them the way
that we probably should have,

1197
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:01,600
but the tape that is out there.
On him is good.

1198
01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:04,700
He's got the size.
Got the measurables.

1199
01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:08,400
He wasn't able to do, you know,
some of the stuff at the combine

1200
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,400
but, you know, overall he's been
able to show his measurables

1201
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,800
before so that wasn't as big of
a deal.

1202
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,800
So that doesn't shock me.
It doesn't necessarily shocked

1203
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,300
me that bar.
No, was the next one off the

1204
01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:25,300
board because again, another
physical trait player versatile

1205
01:14:25,300 --> 01:14:28,700
player that you can do some
different things with it has

1206
01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:32,100
some upside at either.
Either, you know, a heavy

1207
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:38,600
blitzing for three scheme, or
potentially, an edge player in a

1208
01:14:38,608 --> 01:14:43,400
3-4 or a situational rusher in a
traditional 43 as a defensive

1209
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,800
end.
Oh yeah, he's one of those guys,

1210
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,500
if you're running a system where
you have like a wine and you

1211
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,500
stick him at nine as first year
and say go or you put them on

1212
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:55,600
special teams to go try to block
the punt.

1213
01:14:55,900 --> 01:14:58,500
My shocker of all these was the
seat of Smith.

1214
01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:00,700
Going to 15.
Let's see.

1215
01:15:00,700 --> 01:15:04,700
This myth could become a starter
in the NFL.

1216
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,900
First, he is going to be a swing
guard.

1217
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:13,500
That can play either side of the
line solidly and make spot

1218
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:17,700
starts him going that late,
especially where he was ranked

1219
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,100
because if you look, he was a
top-10 Garland.

1220
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,400
So many guys have big boards and
it shows you the value of the

1221
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,500
guards, but it also shows you me
and Brian were talking about.

1222
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:32,200
He's a Colts fan IO Niners fan.
We really don't have spots for

1223
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:37,200
guys who are potential starters.
We don't What we have spots for

1224
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,600
and it's how we kind of drafted,
right?

1225
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,800
Brian.
We took a guy to Fordham in a

1226
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,100
guy that you tap on the
offensive line because they're

1227
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:48,900
looked at developing, why do we
take those guys?

1228
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,200
Because is anybody in their
right, mind going to sign a kid

1229
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,400
out of Fordham or kid out of
UTEP to their roster as the

1230
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:02,000
season begins?
Yep.

1231
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,600
They go on your practice squad.
A guy like Lucy to Smith if the

1232
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:15,000
Colts or the 49ers pick him up,
he could fit in our schemes if

1233
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,800
he's not if he's essentially the
fifth or sixth guard and we have

1234
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,500
to cut him, he's not coming back
to you.

1235
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:25,200
He's not it's just simple as
that.

1236
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:31,500
Sure.
So, who do you think you?

1237
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,200
I feel like I look at it.
I'm glad for guys when I'm glad

1238
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:44,300
all these guys signed.
Anyone stick out to you is Maybe

1239
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:47,400
in two or three years, we're
talking about them in a good

1240
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,300
way, you know, I will stick with
my my train here, but I'm going,

1241
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,900
I think black.
She is going to be a guy that

1242
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:55,800
sticks on a roster even though
it was undrafted yunos

1243
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,000
undrafted.
I feel like what they do in

1244
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:03,100
Buffalo he could he could be the
gadget guy up there so I could

1245
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:08,600
definitely see that and hey the
old special teams coach.

1246
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:10,600
Yeah.
Best he knows how to get kickers

1247
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,800
man.
Deputies got a lot of kickers

1248
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,000
Italy, right?
Nail so, yep.

1249
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,700
Woman might stick.
All right.

1250
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,200
Brian a, did you watch the
Kentucky Derby Saturday?

1251
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,200
I did, I did.
That.

1252
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,300
Was that was a.
That was a, that was a good one.

1253
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,600
Crazy.
Right?

1254
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,600
The, the the was it a drone
angle is they were making the

1255
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,800
turn.
Did you have you seen that

1256
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,000
picture?
Yeah.

1257
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:43,500
The way that what Rich King?
Came up right now.

1258
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:47,200
Rich strike, excuse me,
straight, 80 to 1 odds, he

1259
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,800
literally got in because
somebody got scratched, like,

1260
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:56,100
two days before.
A21 eyes wins the Derby.

1261
01:17:56,500 --> 01:18:01,100
Also that horses mean if you did
not see him afterward, I'm

1262
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:07,400
really fighting people.
Yeah, he has an attitude but

1263
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Mike Leach made a great
tweeting, a great statement, he

1264
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,800
said that horse winning the
Kentucky.

1265
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,900
Derby's a good example of why an
expanded playoff as needed, that

1266
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:21,500
horse hadn't won.
All the races leading up, but he

1267
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:25,300
got the key word is Chance, and
it happened.

1268
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:33,200
Right here.
You know, we talked about this

1269
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,400
sometimes.
You just need one.

1270
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,900
The difference.
Is that with a playoff, it's not

1271
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:41,900
just one, right?
Like I said, just one shot, you

1272
01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:44,800
got you got it, put put a little
run together.

1273
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,800
You got, there's a little
difference there but having a

1274
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,200
seat at the table is important.
And having a seat at the table,

1275
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:59,000
gives you your Longshot, right?
You're not necessarily, you're

1276
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,300
not favored to win.
It's not likely that you're

1277
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:03,400
winning.
You're a long shot for a reason,

1278
01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:06,500
just like Rich strike was a long
shot for a reason.

1279
01:19:07,700 --> 01:19:11,000
Sometimes all the cart sometimes
all the cards come together in

1280
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,300
the long shot wins or a long
shot, can make a run that, you

1281
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:19,700
know, you don't normally don't
make it's very unlikely.

1282
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:26,500
That a 12 seed would win a
college football playoff, but it

1283
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:34,600
helps long-term that 12th seed.
Be able to consistently compete

1284
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:39,300
and potentially build towards a
scenario where they can win a

1285
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:41,800
college football player.
Exactly.

1286
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:44,600
Do I expect Rich strike to win
the Triple Crown?

1287
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,400
No, I don't it all.
But if you was the 12 and he

1288
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:54,000
played 25 and he caught the game
of his life, there you go,

1289
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,600
that's all you need now.
I mean, everybody's talking

1290
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,200
about rich strike, even if he
doesn't win, the Triple Crown,

1291
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,200
everybody's still talking about
rich, straight, whatever, Or

1292
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,400
ever.
So in that case you kind of look

1293
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,700
at the college football playoff
and think, you know number five,

1294
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:13,200
Alabama has to play somebody
with a week to prepare and they

1295
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,700
lose its forever.
Going to be talked about it's

1296
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:20,500
Boise State Oklahoma.
Those seven a game still talked

1297
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:25,600
about to this day.
When that upset happened.

1298
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,000
Yep.
And that's all you want.

1299
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,300
That's all.
That's almost.

1300
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:33,100
That's, that's all most 85% of
the college football World

1301
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:35,400
wants, right?
We just want a chance to sit at

1302
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,700
the table.
Just one seat.

1303
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:41,500
You put us at the end there.
We just want a chance to sit at

1304
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:44,200
the table.
Yeah, because I mean it's some

1305
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,800
point depending on where we're
heading.

1306
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:55,800
The seats are going to get even
more difficult to obtain.

1307
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:02,800
Mmm, it's also true that so the
more of them we have the better,

1308
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,700
very, very true.
My friend.

1309
01:21:05,900 --> 01:21:08,500
Hi, before we shut it down
tonight.

1310
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,300
Guy we chat with off and on all
the time, blew up over the

1311
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:17,200
weekend.
Our boy, the Diablo fan account

1312
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:22,800
deferred walk on.
Tweet of the year in my opinion

1313
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,600
but you know and it's the truth.
This is the truth.

1314
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:31,700
Men will literally sit around a
name random sports players for

1315
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:33,500
two hours instead of going to
therapy.

1316
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:37,500
Yes.
Because Sid bream was very close

1317
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:49,000
to being out with the bomb.
Nice

1318
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:13,400
guys.
And if they're all of the same

1319
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,700
age, Span.
We literally can sit here and

1320
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:21,300
name and go to any sport to.
That's the funny part.

1321
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:23,300
It's not just like, oh, it's
just football.

1322
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,200
No, pretty sure we can go
basketball.

1323
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,800
And hey, remember I Vernon
Maxwell at?

1324
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:36,300
Tommy went into the state.
Yeah.

1325
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:47,700
Yeah, it stands.
Today is Almost 50,000 likes

1326
01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:52,200
18,000 plus quote tweaks, and
it's so funny.

1327
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:58,400
Guy listen to 49ers podcast and
of DN a couple times, great guy

1328
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,400
named John Chapman, it got to
him.

1329
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:07,800
John lives out in San Jose.
In a tweet from Blacksburg.

1330
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:13,500
Virginia made its way.
To the other side of the country

1331
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,900
and who knows where else in this
world.

1332
01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:20,800
Yeah, it's out there in The
Ether now.

1333
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,300
Well done, sir.
Well done forever, forever,

1334
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:28,400
forever Braun, and the last
hour.

1335
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,300
And 25 minutes has anything
broken.

1336
01:23:32,500 --> 01:23:35,200
Nothing that I see here, buddy
already.

1337
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:41,600
Other than who won the NBA game.
The box came back in one while

1338
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,500
I'm talking like and KO
tomorrow.

1339
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,000
All right.
Well, if that's it, let's wrap

1340
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,600
up this episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast.

1341
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,000
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

1342
01:23:52,300 --> 01:23:54,000
Visit our website at boundary
corner.

1343
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,200
Be t.com to listen to all of our
episodes while you're there.

1344
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,900
Don't forget to follow us on
Twitter.

1345
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,000
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1346
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,900
favorite podcast Source,
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1347
01:24:05,900 --> 01:24:09,900
And Apple iOS Apple podcast, as
always we let our buddy Jason

1348
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:12,500
long place in check.
Play us out, check him out this

1349
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:14,600
weekend.
At the granite Grandin farmers

1350
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,200
market in Roanoke.
Also catch him on Spotify and

1351
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,500
apple music.
Especially with his new song,

1352
01:24:21,500 --> 01:24:25,000
Old Man yelling at the TV, we
thank you for listening.

1353
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:28,200
And as always, let's go.
Okay.

Bagman Cometh