Back to Basics

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Welcome back corner podcast.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

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I'm Brian siglo buddy.
Wednesday night.

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How we feeling?
Back-to-back Wednesday night

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feed when I get back in the
offseason.

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Yeah, Yeah, March Madness on the
tube.

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Dwight Vic somewhere in Northern
Virginia, trying to get to his

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house to get home us, do, I will
be here folks.

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He messaged just said, he's
running a little bit behind, so

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he'll join us in just a few
minutes here, but Brian what a

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crazy few days.
Basically starting last week at

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this time.
Basically through today with

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tournament, with will talk about
with the white, with NFL free

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agency and just with brackets,
in general.

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I mean, have you filled yours
out yet?

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Yeah, I feel mine out too gay.
I finally looked at it enough, I

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was like, let's go ahead and put
this bad boy together.

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See what we had.
I don't feel confident, but

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we'll see how it goes, man.
You know, you know, this thing,

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usually runs.
I do, I tell you, I was going

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through the stuff and I made my
pics, and I don't have any,

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like, crazy, crazy upsets, or
anything like that in a year of

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crazy.
Upsets Like, you know, go

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through it.
Um, you know, I thought about

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taking the alma mater, Longwood
over Tennessee, but I've watched

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a lot of that SEC Championship
in the SEC games in general, in,

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Tennessee's on a roll, and Rick
Barnes is a damn good coach and

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he makes run them.
He makes runs in March.

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Yeah, it's going to be
interesting to see what, what

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long was able to do against
them.

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I'm more focused on looking at
the tech side of the bracket

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after that magical run through
the ACC and seeing how many of

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those teams in the East they can
they can knock out.

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I feel like it's a pretty good
matchup in round one against

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Texas.
Yep.

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After that you got it got Purdue
which I think is going to be.

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That's a potential matchup could
be.

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It could be a tough one.
I think she's in some areas we

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match up well with With them and
in some areas not so much.

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Right?
Yeah, you know, obviously

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they've got size with the big
seven foot plus guy, but as we

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saw last weekend though,
especially on offense, when

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they're running High, post will
keys. even some of the most

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athletic big men in the country
like Williams and the cot could

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not guard that it couldn't get
back on the role.

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They couldn't get out on the
three-point Shooters.

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The Purdue.
Let's get through Texas first.

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Let's go out there and keep the
role keep shooting the ball.

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Well, playing good deed, they
don't have a great offense so

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you know it's good things but
it's just going to be a it's a

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fun tournament.
I mean we lost it in 2020.

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Last year was kind of A minor
version in E, Minor version of

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the tournament because you
didn't have full capacity and

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what happened to BCU essentially
losing, which is still in

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protocols this year.
But we haven't seen that

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flare-up in quite a while in any
tournament.

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Probably, since early January,
it definitely feels like like

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the protocols is there.
But The stringency is not what

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it is.
All righty, One Last Thing

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Before we bring to White on
Hokies and free agency.

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Timmy settle going up the
Buffalo where I mean Tim settle

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in his years at with the
Washington football, team

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commanders.
Whatever you want to call them,

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has played a vital secondary
role, the bills getting Von

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Miller, so you got one Timmy and
Oliver on the inside Miller on

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the outside, they're going for.
They thought they were getting

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mckissick as well.
He did, he came back, bring back

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to DC.
That is what it is.

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Brandon face on joins your
Colts.

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That's always nice to get a
hokie honestly.

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We ended up getting.
We got face on heads up and then

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we traded Yassin for Yannick.
So I feel like we got

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Essentially the net of two
better players and only really

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had to trade one player again.
And so I think I think we got

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the better quarterback of that
exchange and then we also got an

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extra defensive end.
So So they get good trades.

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We're still sitting well y'all
on us.

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They're still sitting here in
the quarterback Market, crimes,

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Colts, the nine.
We have a quarterback.

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We just have an extra one
sitting there but obviously this

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John Watson and all what he does
is going to be the Fallout of

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that.
So for me and Brian sanity over

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the next two days, especially
while we're locked on the March

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Madness, watching our alma mater
long watching our Hokies.

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Can we get the trade done?
Just so it's like bunnies over I

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hope so.
I hope we do something I mean

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we're talking about maybe
bringing in we look at so many

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different angles, Marcus Marcus.
The guy y'all ran out of the

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division.
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Could that Baker Baker Mayfield?
I mean, it's I've if it's a

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quarterback that could
potentially move, I've heard his

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name attached to the Colts in
some way, shape or form that

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Ryan for Taylor vehicles and you
be a cold saying if Matt Ryan

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joins Man, that's that's time.
I'll be a Colts fan but I'm not

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I'm not, you know, we're not
celebrating Matt.

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Ryan victories here.
All right, well, Brian just got

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informed of white has going to.
So without further Ado, poke

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Legend offensive lineman number
57, we bring on the white Vic.

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What's up?
What's up Dwight that Northern

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Virginia traffic get you know
man.

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Oh I had a I had a coach's
meeting man and it ran long and

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I looked at my watch I'm like
it's not 15.

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I got to go, I got to park
hasn't got the podcast and I ran

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a few stop signs and Northern
Virginia traffic.

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I deal with but I was good, I
was good, I was good.

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Now, you know, my team, we had
some things changes going on so

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I had to make sure I got
situated with the coaches and

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going over stuff man.
You know because the high school

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season just ended.
So I had to get the know just

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stuff with personnel and are you
stuff, but it's all good.

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Now I was rushing home.
I'm looking for the jump on what

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you guys.
I check you guys out frequently

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so I'm I'm excited about being
on right now, man.

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We love having you on tonight.
I was born at University.

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I was born my mom and dad.
So when I was young,

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Me, it was euphoric, man.
It actually means more.

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Now that is not of the Dust
settled that Championship

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because I think I'd end of the
day.

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It's just special man.
Like, with Mike young is

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building and seeing my God, he's
custis who I basically have

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grown up together when we had
Virginia Tech as a special

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assistant coach and Bruce.
My God Bruce Cohen who's been at

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Texas 1988.
They've seen the ups and downs

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and Bruce was, there were
buzzed.

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So the seals players man, be The
Blue, Bloods, and Virginia Tech

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man.
You know, I always take a person

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when people talk about where
football squad and it had a man,

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we got wrestling.
We've had some great moments

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with softball.
We had track and field men's and

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women's continue to dominate.
The golf team is great.

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I'm not going to lie and tell
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I watch golf or baseball but you
know, if it's got the orange,

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maroon is Hokies.
I'm down for it.

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So it was great night man.
I my wife joked about how tech

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fans were going to really make
everybody upset because we are

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so into our Sports Hokie Nation.
When we get something we go, we

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get to the point of where
obnoxious.

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So we can be annoying, like my
timeline was just, you know,

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people troll it.
But you know what, I think

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that's what makes us special,
how hard we ride for our

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program?
How hard we ride for our sports

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but that was just a great night.
I feel like the entire country

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was watching that game because I
don't really think it was a

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great NBA game on and it is the
ACC tournament Saturday night

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Primetime and was a great night
for Virginia Tech Sports,

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especially the basketball
program.

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And A program.
That's now been 25 ACC.

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I mean, NCAA tournaments and you
know, I won't go as far to say

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we're a basketball school, I
think when I hear that anyway,

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oh, that's a basketball school.
That's the football school.

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I get it, we love our football.
But I mean, I love the fact that

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Tech won that Championship,
especially when Brian and

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Curtis.
I know, you guys know this man.

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But, like, when we went into the
ACC, there were a lot of teams

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that did not want us in that.
For its do you know, you can't

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bear Wanna Be the top to the did
not want us along with them in

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Miami and Miami was playing some
shit behind the scene to get me

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seeing there instead of us.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
You know yeah.

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Miami.
Never like this because we came

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in and we spoiled their party to
when the Big East began, you

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know what supposed to be the
Miami Hurricanes show and we

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came in and we took took that
over man and we became their

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rival.
I mean people now from Miami and

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they They they see I'm a tech
guy and they're like, oh my God,

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we hate y'all.
I said good, they're good.

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He said, you know, there's so
many things that feel we are

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more of a rival to them than
Florida State because of the

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conference years, in the Big
East, those years, those

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battles, if you ever watch ESPN
classic, or you go back and do

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your due diligence with your
history of the program.

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Second Miami, especially in
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It was vicious.
It was, it was real.

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So I'm glad we got an ACC always
thought when I got the tech I'm

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out.
I love playing the Big East but

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I thought it made more 6.
Make made more sense as far as

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demographics and proximity with
the school so that move in 2004

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has been great, you know,
because I was there when the

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football program was in the Big
East, the basketball program was

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in the Metro DC, you and
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And in the the girls team wasn't
another conference.

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It was crazy man.
We were all over the place and

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for a while, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah people don't care speaking

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of girls there in the tournament
to with Jeff crazy good.

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So yes 11 teams that have in
each Kenny doing a heck of up

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there and it's just you already
said it's like earlier.

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Just during the basketball
tournament, you see the tweets

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go out National Championship won
in the what in women's track and

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field to up the pole vault V8
under And, and now you already

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mentioned it.
We got some stuff on it later.

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I mean, what eight wrestlers
going to Nationals?

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Yep, opt-in program.
Yeah, it's this thing where

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we're going to talk a lot about
football, but it's what's

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happened.
In the last five, six years is,

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every other sport has gotten
cultivated right called winning

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program, going to championships
and now it's time to get the

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football program, right?
We are years.

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We saw the upgrades to
facilities and now we're seeing

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Brian.
This is bronze.

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This is Brian saying, I'm not,
but it's true.

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We used to be a mom and pop
organization company after

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what's happened.
This last year, we have big

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business now in football.
He's right.

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He's right, he's right.
And I was never one of those,

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the players former players in
denial.

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I mean, because when I was
there, we had a equipment

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manager.
He's a And dairy equipment as we

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had a guy named Lester Carlin
and everybody back in the 90s,

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what is saying?
Turf shoes.

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So if you are running about you
or the same is Lyman shoes, so

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we call them Lester specials.
So, like, you understand

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something, brought like, I was
there during the Dark Ages when

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we were winning off, like, real
grit.

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Like we, I was there when the
merriment Center was built my

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last couple of years, and I was
there when we got sponsored by

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Nike.
We will finally be able to get

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on the beach video games
featured on EA Sports.

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But it was a mountain to climb
and we were very fortunate when

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the Beamer ball website was
created and when all that stuff

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happened, it was one of those
situations where you could see

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the momentum coming.
They got Kevin Jones.

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Obviously you all know my cousin
is, they got Mike and it kind of

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elevated the program but they
were winning still with they

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were willing with, you know,
like rocks.

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They were winning.
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It was, you know, it's kind of
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doing everything from the mud
from the ground up, which made

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us tough mentally and
physically, but you can only

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survive on that kind of
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one stars and two stars before
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running in the ACC and it was
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over that conference in
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their finances and their stuff
it got Real where it was like

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okay we didn't evolve we kind of
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website was great for a long
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the internet got even bigger and
we have that many coaches on.

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We didn't have that many coaches
on Twitter and I remember my

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gosh out to my God, but Foster,
he talked to me on my podcast

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and he talked to me, even off
the Record, we would talk just

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checking in with each other.
He admitted, he messed this an

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interview today, vitiello.
Maybe it was Angie bitter that

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the program, the recruiting
pictures had gotten stale And

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you can tell because during 2014
and 2013 we were in the running

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for some amazing players.
I think that 2014 class with

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some of the best D lineman in
Virginia Tech History when you

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had to shine hand Josh wet, Tim
settle, the kid that power that

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went to UNC.
I mean with so many guys and we

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were in the running, Derek
naughty, we were in the running

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for all those guys out of
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Everybody, I mentioned was there
and we kept finishing number two

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behind Florida, State Eight
behind Penn State and it was

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because of wasn't so much the
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That was obvious.
We had kind of fallen off but it

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was more so you can only push
the Mantra of them, rabaul, and

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special teams, and blue collar
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But so much.
Because every now and then every

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few years, scuse me the
generation changes and it's just

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like my son, like my son and
turned 16 this year, he's grown

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up only knowing seeing UVA
videos and football like one

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time, But at the same time, he
also has seen the program at

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last several years.
Struggled go three in one and

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start the season and fall off a
cliff and barely make a bowl

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game.
So in his mind, he's like, yo,

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what's up with your team?
You know I'm saying because he's

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like it's like when I stole his
team to, but he's like, you

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know, we used to be, it's all
YouTube stuff.

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It's all like Memories.
You know, and that's when you

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realize that was time to change
like Brian mentioned, because if

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you keep living off history and
what she used to be and showing

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old clips as much as I love my
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So I want us to show some new
relatable stuff, some, some

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current events some stuff that
that makes you pop right now,

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you know, you were talking about
your area, your era was when

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when grit wasn't just a slogan.
Yeah, yeah, listen man, I'm not

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I'm not My tab Ash Wednesday, I
don't know him but I love, I

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love the Ho Chi Twitter account.
I love social media.

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I think it's a gift but they
also can be a curse.

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I think for guys like us, we use
it for the right reason.

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I love what y'all do a shout-out
to my goddamn v?

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I loved on V and drift.
I love a lot of these guys.

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I've met and Twitter spaces, so
many great tech fans.

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I chop it up with even UVA
another fan bases but the same

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time and I got so tired.
I know Brendan.

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He will agree with me on this
man and he Jay Park and those

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guys.
I got so tired of the

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manufactured height like, you
know, it just it just got to the

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point where like if you look and
again, I'm not, I'm not that old

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school guy, get off my lawn guy.
Like I'm just everything was so

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much better in my day and
everything.

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The food was better.
The Women.

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Everyone was so much tougher.
I'm not that dude.

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Like, it's not like that, man.
I I think there's some talent

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and gas itself.
Now, I think what it happens now

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is, Get a lot of Manufacturers
height and I thought that that

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hard hat and that grit.
And I thought that stuff was

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corny.
I thought it was manufactured

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height because I see grit and
toughness on the field.

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Like I don't know how many times
in the last five, six years, it

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would be fourth and third and
one and we would get stopped or

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have to call a timeout to run
the same play in the same

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formation.
And after by weeks off weeks, we

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had no Innovative plays, no
wrinkles, nothing.

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New, toughness is not what you
can talk about.

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Can get on Twitter right now and
talk about I can do this and

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this I'm tough.
I can bench and I'm strong.

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I go to Dick's Sporting Goods
and get sleeves and hoodies and

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flex on you.
But at the end of the day that's

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not toughness.
That's just manufactured hike

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because I can go and do all that
and walk outside and get punched

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in the face.
Y'all be like, man, big guy

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smack.
I saw, you know, it's tough, you

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know, but I do think the kids,
we have there the last several

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years were working hard but at
the same time, if you don't

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really No, a working hard is if
you haven't been pushed to that

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limit, if you don't really know
what a winning culture is you're

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just really talking about it,
right?

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So like before I got to Tech
Tyrone Drake for and you know,

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Maurice, deshazo JC Price,
William Boatwright, the

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groundwork has been laid even
though right.

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A few years before I got today,
with 281 the year before I got

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there, Cornell Brown, those guys
Antonio Banks were nine and

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three and then I came in and it
was their culture present where

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I understood what toughness
meant and I knew how to win.

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And I think that's what it's
about, not so much.

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That manufactured height that we
were seeing what, you know, I

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used to laugh but I I would
retweet it.

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I would retweet it.
Hoping that it would catch on,

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you know, out like you know, but
we did the same really insane.

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I've done in life.
You saw that when the last two

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games this season he coached -
the Maryland game that was

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embarrassing but that wasn't on
him.

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We didn't have a team.
I wish we we should we should we

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should have texted terms of
score, you know.

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But at the end of the day, the
UVA Miami gave.

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You saw finally then play with
toughness and I think early on

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under Fuentes regime, you saw
toughness those first few years

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because Bucky and Isaiah Ford
and Edmunds, brother.

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Others.
And Greg Stroman were tough.

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They just need.
They needed an offense and I

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think they understood it.
It was just that at that moment

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the program had cotton got stale
but you saw toughness, you saw

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them, take Clemson, you saw mooc
Reynolds and those guys take on

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Clemson and they went down to
Florida State.

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And you saw some toughness, it
was just never sustain.

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It wasn't, it wasn't.
Maybe that was because of lack

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of depth or maybe there was
dissension and team, maybe

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that's when the whole thing
happened with the Keep baking

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Fiasco and all that other
nonsense.

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But at the end of the day meant
there were moments when they

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showed it.
I remember, I'm not gonna lie to

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y'all in the beginning, man when
that when we, when he first got

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there and we won the coastal and
he was coached a year and we

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went to a Bilbo and won 10
games.

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I said, man, we finally got it
like it's time like, you know,

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that that Euphoria Euphoria.
We feel with Mike young?

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Yeah, I felt that I was like,
man, we got offense averaging.

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40 points, a game and Jerrod
Evans comes back for a year.

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And then all of a sudden man,
somebody said, psyche, Got the

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got the carpet pulled out from
under me.

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Yeah so we're talking about the
transition period here when that

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was kind of going on.
Yeah.

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After we kind of moved on from
Flint a, there was a lot of

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Twitter spaces out there tally.
I know you jumped in a bunch of

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them.
Shout out my gosh.

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I hope it's not too terribly.
Shoutout Jonathan Sally,

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appreciate you.
He would he joined us back in

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back in.
That was a good time.

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So that was real good.
I was a real fun but you were

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you kind of took on like a kind
of a leadership role amongst the

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fan base among some of the Lum
night as we were kind of moving

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through that.
As you said, early talked about

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some hard truths fans of the
athletic department kind of

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needed to hear.
I say, what's up?

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Yeah, that's a real quick.
There were times on those

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Twitter's faces.
You were saying things and I

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think there were some fans that
were muted probably with tears

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coming in their eyes. because,
Someone of your ilk had not

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spoken like that in told the
truth.

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Mmm Brian.
Go ahead and finish, man.

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I'm sorry, interrupt.
Yeah, we just don't feel like

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what kind of compelled you kind
of take on that role.

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Amongst the fame, he's in the
moon's.

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Kind of the, the way, the Hokey
Twitter was moving at that time.

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Let me tell you something, man,
both of you guys.

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Number one, I'm big fans of you
both, man.

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I'm big fans of Virginia Tech,
Virginia Tech's my home.

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I get emotional, I think about
it, man.

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Like I'm No, I take on people
have acknowledged me as like

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when the Virginia Tech
ambassadors, you know, I'll ride

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with that, you know, I've
written columns for 247 sports

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for years, whatever walk ins,
and czy and all of them.

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And I used to be on Hoagie
Haven, you know, before that and

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I did the pregame show with Kyle
Bailey, Danny knows I've I did

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the pregame, bro.
I mean, the spring game

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broadcast in 2013 for Virginia
Tech.

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You guys know, I had a great
career there.

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I mean, I felt it needed to be
said, because I felt like You

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know, I don't think all the fans
understood like what this meant

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to all the former players, but
you gotta understand man, even

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before, I'd the Vic 757 show,
with my cousin Mike and all

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those guys that jumped on, I was
having those conversations and

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group chats.
I was on the phone, I was part

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of getting people back to Tech
but guys didn't want to come

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back because they felt
ostracized.

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So I was like, you know what,
I'm a self-made, God.

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Like I have businesses.
I'm a licensed clinician, I'm a

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father.
So if this gets me in a

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situation where When say staff
doesn't want me around and so be

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it.
But it's funny because even

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before that all went down, I was
a mediator when they started

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doing the alumni cuz you know,
connections with resumes and

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stuff.
So I realize that I'm very well

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respected and well-known but
those Twitter spaces was me.

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Just speaking from my heart man.
Like you guys got understand

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something.
I know you're probably saying

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way man.
I am very very busy.

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So yes, when I get when I jump,
when I jump on Twitter space

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after setting aside five hours,
My Saturday to watch us beat for

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them or form, fareham, 24 to 13
and run the same jet sweeps and

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Dives on third down and no
innovation and no connection

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with the fan base or when you go
flirt with availa job and you

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come back with a Cryptid tweak,
but there's no message you did.

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Because I was there when Beamer
interview for the jobs, there

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were press conference, and you
better said, there wasn't no

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femur did have a in a team
meeting.

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So we knew what was up.
I have the Legacy and the

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Connection is to correct.
Even some of the media members

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that don't know the history.
I know.

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So I started to realize in those
Twitter spaces, I have the

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credibility and the respect to
speak on stuff because I'm not

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biased.
I'll tell you when I suck during

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the game and I'll tell you when
they do great.

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I don't have anything to lose
because I'm not, I don't have a

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hidden agenda.
So when I got no spaces, I, you

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know, I'll share this with
everybody listening and watching

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my phone was blowing up, man.
When I will be in, I'm going to

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have so many people saying.
Thank you so much.

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Much when my favorites and it
really made me emotional was the

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great thing.
A guy said I can listen to

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Dwight Vic talk about sandpaper
and I'm doing this and you know

444
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:39,600
so I love the fact that people
check for my tweets and stuff

445
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,200
like this because I think people
respect the fact I'm passionate

446
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,000
but I'm sincere and I care about
people and I care about text.

447
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,400
So I just wanted to talk man,
like and the thing about it is,

448
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,100
what killed me is.
People that didn't agree with

449
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,700
That's fine.
I'm not always right on the

450
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,500
claim to be but it was never
criticism about the program as

451
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,300
if I wanted to be to sabotage
it.

452
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,500
I would much rather be talking
about us being seven and two

453
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:07,900
getting ready for a chance to
win.

454
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:13,600
The coastal Verses 4 and 5 after
a bizarre loss to Boston College

455
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,400
on Friday night.
You know, like it just it just

456
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,700
bothered me that we couldn't get
to Spring games and that some of

457
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,900
the best players in Virginia
Tech History would not, welcome

458
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,400
back.
Back that, that that Dad hurt

459
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,100
me, that hurt a lot of us.
So you could probably through

460
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:33,000
the passion.
And, you know, again, that's

461
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,700
just my school.
Like, I care about tech, man.

462
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,400
And, and, and I just think when
you irrational you're

463
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,900
consistent, and you keep it
real, in a way, where you can

464
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,900
still have a conversation with
people.

465
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:48,400
I think more people appreciate,
appreciate that, and I don't

466
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,700
mind being the voice of reason.
And I don't mind being that guy.

467
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,900
I take pride in it, but I think
Great thing about my guy be fish

468
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,000
on Twitter.
He said, you know, Iraq with you

469
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,700
Vic because you don't think
you're better than me.

470
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:06,100
And I said, no, I'm not.
We're all a work in progress.

471
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,600
We're all in this together, then
we all lose together, we all

472
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,500
suffer together.
Hopefully, we can start winning

473
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,300
together.
Don't say it.

474
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Hey, look, man, you think about
this man?

475
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:19,400
Think about this.
Saturday night was how it's

476
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800
supposed to be.
Yes, that's how it used to be.

477
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,300
That's how it used to be.
Yep.

478
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
That's how I used to be right.
Yep.

479
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,500
We would just whether you were
downtown Blacksburg or you went

480
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,500
d.c. at a bar or you were in New
York watching on your phone.

481
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:37,000
You were running through the
street.

482
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Let's go hope.
Let's go tech.

483
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Let's go Hokies you.
You felt that?

484
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,700
That's how it's supposed to be
and you didn't feel like you

485
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,400
wasted your time and eat.
It Duke had come back and win.

486
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,700
One we would have suffered
together but she would have left

487
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:54,600
feeling proud to be a hokie.
Because there was times, I said

488
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,900
I vowed I would never go back to
FedEx Field because I said

489
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:02,200
through the Boise State laws, I
said you assistant daddy Lon

490
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:06,600
you're in the USC list.
So I said, I will I said I'm

491
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,000
never going back but I will tell
you this and I didn't go back.

492
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800
We finally beat West Virginia,
right?

493
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:15,700
But I'll say this, I'll say
this, even when I left and

494
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:18,300
setting the worst traffic in the
DMV, And FedEx field that

495
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:22,100
god-awful Stadium.
I'll say this, I still feel good

496
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,400
because in the parking lot, I
talk to people, I had never met

497
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
with the Orangemen ruin on.
We just talked about what we

498
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,100
should have done on this down
and how we need it.

499
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,300
We can still run the table.
We can just got to win this

500
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:34,200
game, that's what it's about,
right?

501
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,800
That's what brings us together,
man.

502
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,400
But I feel like, yeah, I feel
like text do, do you know I'm

503
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,100
saying?
I feel like we do for something,

504
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:47,400
right?
let's go back to the transition

505
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,600
hiring process, he had an
episode My big man here through

506
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Brent prize, a dark horse out to
get higher.

507
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,500
We did a bunch of stuff.
We went into different

508
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,200
candidates.
Mmm.

509
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,000
When this happened was he on
your radar?

510
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,900
Or did anybody whisper in your
ear and say about Coach prop?

511
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:08,700
You know, he was there when you
were there.

512
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:15,900
It was any cold during that
little period Yes, I didn't.

513
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:20,600
My God longtime friend.
Aaron Foster, in my group chat

514
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,100
group chat with me, and my guy
Clint Williams.

515
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000
He's a tech fan.
And chiron's death for most

516
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,700
texts are running back.
Arian, put Aaron, put in the

517
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,400
chat.
He was like, Aaron's, the

518
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,100
Virginia Tech grad.
Aaron said what about pride?

519
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,100
And I said, hmm, that will be a
good one.

520
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,600
That's he's at Penn State.
He was like nah, I'm telling

521
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600
you, I think text you go out to
prime a I think the and then I

522
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,500
would I kind of look That it and
I was like, I didn't really

523
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:47,900
hear.
I think you guys mentioned them,

524
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,900
right?
He was our door chord.

525
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:53,400
We had like ten kids, they were
they were all the popular

526
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,900
candidates and then we had like
three or four dark oils like

527
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,200
well, these are be interesting
and he was one of those.

528
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Yeah, you guys did a great job
on that.

529
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,300
I he was not on my radar, but
then when we hired him and I was

530
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:09,400
like, that's a great higher.
But I wasn't like jumping up and

531
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,900
down as if it was the savior
because I hadn't seen prior

532
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,800
other than Interacting on
Facebook or Twitter, I just knew

533
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,800
him at Penn State.
I didn't know he was a great

534
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000
recruiter because he was killing
it.

535
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,400
And I have a lot of you know,
Northern Virginia.

536
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,700
DC and Maryland is a lot of Penn
State Alumni appear and they

537
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:31,600
really loved him.
And I will say this, I took off

538
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600
of work or maybe I was working
from home, and I watched his

539
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800
press conference I'm not gonna
lie to y'all.

540
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,400
That press conference moved me,
man.

541
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,300
You don't really win
championships with press

542
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:45,500
conferences, but when he talked
about that 95 season, that game

543
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:49,300
against Miami, and he
remembered, and he think, Beamer

544
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,200
and his lip was quivering.
And he, he would, I said, oh my

545
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,200
God, we have, we finally
ditched, this could be it and

546
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,700
he's not even as I talk to you
guys.

547
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,000
I'm looking away cuz I'm going
back to that moment and you

548
00:33:02,008 --> 00:33:04,100
making me you making me swallow
up a little bit.

549
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:10,500
I felt it.
There's orange and in his blood.

550
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Yes, no matter.
I'm just gonna say this, but

551
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,500
Located, the people, the fan,
Southwest Virginia.

552
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,700
You can't be an outsider and run
that program if you are you

553
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,700
better be connected in some way.
You got to know what it means

554
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,700
and and Coach Frey, Brent knows
he was there.

555
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:51,300
He was there with me.
He was there, man.

556
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,400
When we were the Run, told you
we came from the mud Brick by

557
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Brick.
He was there when they can't, he

558
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,700
was there.
When the locker room was

559
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,100
outside, we will get the new
lot.

560
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,000
We still have a place called The
Dungeon man.

561
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,500
Look like something from The
Longest Yard, bro.

562
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,000
She looks crazy.
I'll just don't understand man

563
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600
you know I'm saying?
So like it was wow so yeah man

564
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,300
Pride with I mean again we don't
know like we got to be ODU like

565
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:17,100
yeah I know tech fans like me.
I'm gonna be at that game.

566
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,100
My daughter just got into ODU.
She she was going to take but

567
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,400
she's going to owe to you.
And I'm okay with that because

568
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,699
I'm proud of her.
I think, you know, as long as

569
00:34:24,707 --> 00:34:27,600
she's comfortable and she's
walking around the house kind of

570
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
like side mean, like oh yeah, we
coming for y'all and I'm like

571
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,800
long time Tech there's like man.
We got to win that game.

572
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,900
It's like, you know, I'm having
like anxiety right now because

573
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,800
we should smash them.
But we know we got to see why

574
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,800
quarterback is guys, see the old
line, but I just feel like pride

575
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,900
gets it and as you mentioned,
Brian a budget.

576
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,800
We have now piercing prioleau.
I talk to him.

577
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,699
He's there gouveia Winslow, just
two guys, they have JC price

578
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:02,100
Deep got real Robert DB a DB
dyrell Roberts nadara left and

579
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:07,700
it's Some Darrell got that job
in a G5 schools trying to get

580
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,100
him as a wide receiver coach
within two weeks.

581
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,900
He tells you that fries hiring
people that he won't.

582
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:16,800
Yes.
Yeah.

583
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,000
That's and and I just feel like
the tradition was good.

584
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,700
I feel like it was it was a key
thing to keep Jayceon.

585
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:30,600
I just think if he would have
left him and his wife, who I

586
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,800
love dearly, and she was on my
podcast as well.

587
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:34,800
Hall of Famer.
Jin, route priced.

588
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,200
They spent 17 years, trying to
get back to Blacksburg.

589
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:41,100
And I'm not going to make last
year out to be some great

590
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,200
season.
We went six and seven but

591
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,700
honestly JC said that class most
that recruiting class.

592
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,200
He saved the program because
yes, Marilyn was a debacle was

593
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,500
embarrassing but we had 25
opt-outs.

594
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,600
We were playing with guys.
We were playing with guys.

595
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,800
That should have been passing
out water bottles.

596
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:01,700
It was just one of those things
man.

597
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,100
Maryland.
We never lose in Maryland.

598
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,000
We play Marilyn any other time
we smoked them, they can have

599
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,800
that.
I saw.

600
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,900
I saw your boy Torrey Smith
talking.

601
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000
I saw him play live and he got
smacked going across the middle

602
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,800
but you know if Maryland,
Maryland football, you know, but

603
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,900
I love.
I love.

604
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:19,600
I love it.
Yes.

605
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,300
Can I say this JC price?
At the end of the UVA game after

606
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:29,700
we win in that comment.
This is my school.

607
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:34,100
This is home.
Hmm whoever was going to be the

608
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,700
coach that man had a State
national TV.

609
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,700
He says that he got hockey fans,
swelling up, screaming tearing

610
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:46,200
like that's I got and then you
find out a few weeks later in

611
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600
the Maryland game.
He breaks his hand because he

612
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400
shows that passion about
palliative playing that game.

613
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,500
He had to stay here.
Yeah, chasing prey.

614
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,800
Again, I love, I love the very
Booker's.

615
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,700
I love the you know Jason
world's I can go on on Corey

616
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,200
Moore who was my locker, meet my
brother.

617
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:14,500
We have had some great ones.
Cornell Brown You Know Carl

618
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,800
Bradley Chad Beasley you know.
So on and so on so many great

619
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,600
guys man, but I would tell you
this man.

620
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,900
I would put JC price in the
Virginia Tech Sports Hall of

621
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,000
Fame just from that moment right
there, right?

622
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,900
But you guys gotta understand
something.

623
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:31,500
I would against him for two
years, 94, and 95, and JC.

624
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:34,300
Price was a man-child.
Like, I went against him and he

625
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:37,000
never got any better.
I went against him and hate

626
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,800
Coleman and later on in John
Dingell burger and Corey Moore,

627
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,900
how many but JC price to me, you
know, is the is what it means to

628
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:49,700
be a hokie.
Like, if you look it up, just

629
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,200
what he And I'm not surprised he
broke his hand, man.

630
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,000
That guy was tough man.
Like he, he always walked the

631
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,100
practice like his back and feet
hurt, because he went so hard

632
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,800
every day and insurance them.
That whistle blew and lights

633
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,000
went on, and he was just an
animal.

634
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,600
He had a crazy spin move, but
more importantly, man, like we

635
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,300
were owing to, I'll just say
this on your podcast.

636
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,400
I've said this before, but I'll
say it again.

637
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,600
And 95, that was the most
important season of Virginia

638
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,500
Tech History.
I know the 80 17 Bemis.

639
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:19,700
First she was important and they
played, you know, a few years

640
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,300
before.
That the toughest schedule or

641
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:24,200
the nation or the 5th toughest
schedule, there was some lean

642
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,800
years and he had to do some
great work with some players

643
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,400
that could have gone to bigger
programs with the time.

644
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,000
But the 95 season was important
because we were only two men and

645
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,800
we lost two games.
We should have lost two, we're

646
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,700
coming off, you know?
The 16 and nothing.

647
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:41,900
Losses, Cincinnati in the rain.
We didn't even score in

648
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,800
Cincinnati was trash which then
lost them and dream.

649
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Drunk until I remember seeing
him, I was a redshirt freshman.

650
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,700
I remember looking and he just
had his head down and it was

651
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:50,900
raining.
So hard.

652
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,400
And I said, man, like we may not
win a game and I'm like, what is

653
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,300
going on with you?
Just we're too good and we

654
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,900
couldn't figure out what was
going on.

655
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,600
And I remember thinking, man,
like, you know, they were

656
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,300
Whispers that, you know, Dave
bring was the ad and him and be

657
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,000
more with tight but they were
Whispers like, wow.

658
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,800
Like what if this doesn't work
out, we'll be more be let go,

659
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,700
you know, it just was crazy.
So you have all that going on in

660
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:20,300
Miami, the real Miami that you
got the one now, where they hold

661
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:24,000
up a chain a little bit sugar,
could change the real Miami.

662
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:28,600
The real Miami were Ray Lewis
and Rohan Marley, and all those

663
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,200
guys are household names, you
know.

664
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,000
No, they're coming to Blacksburg
where we never won, we never

665
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
beat him and that's when they
have swag that's when they would

666
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,300
run to your Sidelines.
Shout out to my God Ray Lewis,

667
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:43,100
he was on the show with me and
my great Lois is my guy love

668
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:44,600
them or hate them.
I love them.

669
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,200
I know he's our rival but he is
one of the best athletes and

670
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,900
linebackers have ever seen and
he was all over that field we

671
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,000
went and we punch them in the
mouth but before we get to that

672
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,400
moment, we're in the locker room
at Owen to embarrass their own

673
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,100
home field, lost two consecutive
home games, and She price in

674
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:03,900
jimbaran to the best defensive
linemen and leaders in Virginia

675
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:06,500
Tech History said, Let's Stay
Together.

676
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,200
We're brothers, were family.
We're not gonna lose another

677
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,700
game.
We had a players only meeting in

678
00:40:09,707 --> 00:40:13,800
the hotel and RAV4 where we used
to stay before games and we told

679
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,100
beans and them and Billy
heightening, the get out, we

680
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,100
just said, we got to talk.
I was a young kid, I was just

681
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,400
watching us all go down.
I was like, this is a method

682
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,100
like I was in a movie like A
League of Their Own or something

683
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,900
or like Varsity Blues.
It was, it was just like, I'm in

684
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:31,000
a movie, bro, and I'm looking at
Jason price is a Emotional guy,

685
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,400
like me and the seniors talked,
you know, drunken Miller

686
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,500
everybody you know was talking
and we came in and we beat Miami

687
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,800
wasn't a pretty score was 13 and
7, but Lauren Johnson made the

688
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,500
key play, but JC prices.
Is he epitomizes what it means

689
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,800
to be a hokie man and I stand by
what I said when we hired him

690
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,400
and that Virginia Tech fans will
all.

691
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,100
I think I retweeted my tweet
with receipts said, here's some

692
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,800
receipts but I said you know.
Virginia Tech fans will love

693
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,300
this higher when it's all said
and done.

694
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:02,800
Done.
So the transition has been good.

695
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:04,700
Now, to be honest with you guys,
we got to win.

696
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,500
We got to win the biggest issue.
Would take going back to my

697
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:10,800
years and even after I left,
even during the Tie Rod, Ryan

698
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,800
Williams years, we have to start
winning games, were supposed to

699
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,200
win.
If you ask me, you know

700
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,800
facilities, yes, money budget,
coaching staff, recruiting all

701
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,400
that's obvious and you got to do
it, which we've done with knows,

702
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,300
guys have done that prize doing
it, but on the field, we got us.

703
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,400
You know, my senior year we lost
the temple, little 14th in the

704
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,900
country had lost 35 consecutive
games.

705
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,100
The following year, we lost the
mind or the year.

706
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,300
Before we lost the Miami, Ohio
at home.

707
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,500
Everyone knows about Boise
State, J mu You know, we got to

708
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,300
start winning these games
against Boston College.

709
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,000
We got to start beating.
We do good against UVA and

710
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,500
Carolina is that for like, we
take them seriously, but we got

711
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:57,400
to start winning.
Those games were supposed to win

712
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,000
like those games.
Like here we go, Virginia Tech's

713
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,700
going to, they're going to do
what Hokies do and you like, how

714
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:04,700
did we lose it?
We only win that game.

715
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,600
We would be in this bowl, you
know.

716
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,000
We got to start winning those
games.

717
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,300
Like, we, you know, I want to
start getting back to.

718
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:14,200
We saw that one year with Gerard
Evans, his only here at Tech.

719
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,400
We were just Question, ECU 55 to
whatever?

720
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,800
Yeah, we got to start getting,
we got to start getting the

721
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,100
games, we win those games, you
know I'm saying, you have to

722
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:28,200
work teams like that.
Essentially, you want them

723
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000
losing the second.
They step on the bus, weaving

724
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,400
their Stadium.
That's how you want to be and,

725
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800
you know, haven't done that for
a long time.

726
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,500
For a long time, it was like
that.

727
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:41,400
We don't step on throats
anymore.

728
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,600
We don't, when we get up, we
don't we don't finish them but

729
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,300
we let them hang around and then
then it's a game and what would

730
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:51,200
it?
But a lot of times with with I

731
00:42:51,207 --> 00:42:55,500
mean, you got BC for whatever
reason we get up as you said for

732
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:59,800
UVA, we get up for UNC.
We take them seriously even

733
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,700
though they're more or less mid
in the conference, right?

734
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,600
But we don't we don't take those
other teams like wake like BC.

735
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,600
We don't take those games as
seriously as we should and by

736
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,100
extension we don't play like we
should not and I mostly know

737
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,000
mentality that continue here
coming out of brick prize mouth.

738
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:25,200
I want guys to hate to lose
every time there it is.

739
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
My buddy.
We count them down in North

740
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,700
Wilkesboro hate to lose.
That's the mentality.

741
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:34,600
He's trying to instill and he's
talked about like the

742
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,900
one-on-ones during winter
workouts.

743
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:41,200
Like, I want you to hate losing
to your brother hate to live.

744
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,800
Because if you hate, he gets
down in crunch time.

745
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,100
As he said today in his
interview you will do anything

746
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:54,500
to win because I hate to lose,
you know, that's the mentality.

747
00:43:54,500 --> 00:44:00,200
He's going with And yeah, and
that's I don't think that's been

748
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,100
a mentality here for a long
time.

749
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:06,400
And now, man, you know, I
remember last year, I tweeted by

750
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,900
we're playing Richmond and we
will up, and then he put the 20

751
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,100
and then put the backup
quarterback in.

752
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:18,300
We were only up like a touchdown
and we were in our own in on

753
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,000
part of our point.
We were near we're near our own

754
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,300
End Zone in the back up to a
pic.

755
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,200
Yeah, not my type.
We're struggling to beat

756
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,100
Richmond.
I was like what is going on and

757
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,000
if I believe that's the game, I
haven't watched that game since

758
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,200
ended.
But I believe that's the game.

759
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,500
We're taping on Robinson right
now.

760
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:37,900
Put it back.
Yep.

761
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:41,500
Or or it was going to be a
dogfight in the fourth quarter

762
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,400
and and you're right.
We haven't we haven't stepped on

763
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,600
teams throats in a long time but
I think again I'm not I'm sure

764
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600
it was the same way when DJ
Parker was there and even after

765
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,800
I left.
But I feel like one thing that

766
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,000
was a staple of our During the
times, I was there in the even

767
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,300
subsequently thereafter was
there was competition in

768
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:06,500
everything we had to compete and
there were fights and there was

769
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:11,200
battles in practice, you can ask
Brandon Flowers, it was

770
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,500
competition.
Josh always be a talk about it.

771
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,400
Like it was, it was Justin
Harper and those guys will tell

772
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,700
you the DBS versus receivers it
was real and that's what prize

773
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:21,700
talking about because I know
they had that up there at Penn

774
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,300
State with him and Anthony
Poindexter and we're going to

775
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,000
get back there.
I definitely know it's going to

776
00:45:26,008 --> 00:45:28,400
be there now but the point I'm
getting at that you mentioned.

777
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,800
Kurt is like, you got to be a
doll.

778
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,800
You got to be a jerk.
I remember a man ACC the first

779
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200
several years in the conference.
I think the first two years we

780
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,400
went 16 and 1 in a row, we went
1601 and I went to Road games on

781
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:48,700
purpose and teams needed us
Marilyn, Wake Forest, but

782
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:52,400
because we would talk trash and
take their Turf with the year,

783
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Wake Forest when it, we beat
them. 26 and they won the ACC.

784
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:04,200
And we be anything about is
Nolan burchett and a DB and

785
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,800
Vince Hall where jerks on the
field.

786
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:09,400
I mean, they were hitting
people.

787
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,900
They were so physical and it
wasn't that whole targeting

788
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:14,100
thing.
They just did not, they didn't

789
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,300
care.
They talked to Jimmy Williams.

790
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:20,000
I was at Maryland when he
decapitated the guy and he was

791
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,500
on Maryland side, he stood up
all 65 of them, I can't repeat

792
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:26,100
what he said.
Because I really want to go in.

793
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:31,500
But but my whole point being is
that Fu mentality has been gone.

794
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,800
We have not been, we got we, and
I remember talking to on one of

795
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,000
the Twitter spaces and I hate to
bring this back up because they

796
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,700
are is done, but I felt like we
had a lot of guys that were good

797
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:49,500
players and very good.
Good, good people but didn't

798
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,400
have that switch, right?
Because I'm a great guy.

799
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,100
I'm going to tell you but I'm a
good dude, but On the field.

800
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,400
I talked I was I was I was an
asshole.

801
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,200
You don't feel like you got to
have a switch, you got to have a

802
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,700
sale not to be a sweat, you
know, saying I remember going

803
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,700
against Chris whole van and
different guys, different teams.

804
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,500
I mean, I remember on UVA,
sideline, I said something to

805
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:13,100
George.
Well, sure.

806
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:16,300
I mean, you only remember, you
know, I'm saying, like I

807
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,700
remember my longtime friend of
teenage from high school might

808
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,900
Hawkins, man.
He's my we're close, he's a UVA

809
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:25,400
guy, you know, he played at UVA
last team to beat Tech in

810
00:47:25,408 --> 00:47:27,600
Blacksburg and we're still
tight.

811
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,800
But during that game, I didn't
care.

812
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,600
I hate, I mean, you, you you got
to have hatred, you know?

813
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,800
And I know this may be hard for
some people to understand.

814
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,800
It doesn't mean you.
You can't relate if you didn't

815
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,300
play, but it's just about
competition, man.

816
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:45,400
Like I'm telling you, I meant
talk, you guys were there, go

817
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,400
back and look at those teams.
The first several years in ACC

818
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,200
with Virginia Tech, you know,
they will mean they were

819
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,000
bullshit.
He I call they were gonna knock

820
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
off USC because they were
popping USC.

821
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,900
I'll be yes.
That wasn't what growls in camp

822
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:06,900
at Sydney.
I was in Longwood in my

823
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,900
apartment.
I'm feeling drunk and we were

824
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:14,700
just, it was just, and you just
saw them, like, you can see USC,

825
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:19,200
say, wait a second.
This team's unranked weirdest,

826
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,200
its 80,000 people just, we can't
hear anything.

827
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,700
And every time we get over to
me, It'll pop.

828
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,800
Yep.
In light of up, light em up.

829
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:36,800
So it was a different mentality.
And let me ask this because I

830
00:48:36,808 --> 00:48:41,100
want to know you guys who play.
It didn't take long Brent price

831
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:44,000
started getting you guys on
phone calls and zoom calls.

832
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,100
Love it, love it, love it.
I mean how big was that it I

833
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:51,600
mean it wasn't like three, four
months and it was like a couple

834
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,700
weeks in.
He gets as many of you guys as

835
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:56,400
he can.
Can in.

836
00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:59,500
Yeah, and you've already talked
about how you guys had kind of

837
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:04,500
felt distance from the program
that and out saying, I want to

838
00:49:04,508 --> 00:49:08,500
talk to all of you not just
like, not just like Mike, oh

839
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:13,200
Cam, but you played here, we
want you to come talk to us.

840
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,900
How does that make you feel?
As a as an alumni?

841
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,900
And as a, you know, big piece of
this program.

842
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:22,200
That if you played here, you're
one of us, come here.

843
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:28,200
You know, you mentioned.
Kurt you and you and be you

844
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,500
mentioned the Twitter spaces.
Let me tell y'all something

845
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:32,400
right now.
Don't ever get it twisted.

846
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,400
They are Tech coaches and people
in the front office that are on

847
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,900
those students but they just
might have an egg as a profile

848
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:43,300
pic or they might be under a
fake name but I promise you that

849
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:45,400
but that's been a lot of stuff
done.

850
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Did I mention and the next day
or later that week it was done.

851
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,700
I'm sorry.
They listen, they know and I'm

852
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:53,500
okay with that.
I mean they should have to eat

853
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,200
to this.
Trees.

854
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:58,800
I think I'd end of the day.
It was it was critical man

855
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,300
because try understands he comes
from a situation where heat the

856
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:07,400
alumni relations at Penn State
or how they're supposed to be.

857
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600
So I think he understood I
think, you know, honestly guys,

858
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,300
we're still not even done
getting everybody on board

859
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:16,300
because, you know, a lot of
ground has to be made up because

860
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,500
there's been such a big disk
than that.

861
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:23,900
So, I've been part of it another
guys, but the great news is guys

862
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:25,000
understand.
They want to be there.

863
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,600
They felt wanted and Start just
to be more geysers to duly guy

864
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,500
as a guy from the 70s and 80s.
They all they all want to be a

865
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:34,900
part of it.
I think the biggest

866
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:40,600
misconception was that they felt
that we wanted tickets or a we

867
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,500
wanted like rooms blocked off
and we wanted like a bunch of

868
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,800
hobos coming through and we
wanted to statues.

869
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Made it won't about all that it
was more.

870
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,900
So about man like we want to be
part of program.

871
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,800
The last June we had the stuff
they're talking about is just so

872
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200
impressed.
They want us to be there to

873
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,300
speak to the team they want and
said practices, they want to do

874
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:06,000
Legacy camps where human players
help out with the with the

875
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,100
current players or recruits they
are.

876
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:13,300
So in line with getting us on
board and Pride is All In.

877
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:17,300
He's jumping on a resume resume.
We had when I was a moderator,

878
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:20,400
went was on there.
I've always Rock Wit Babcock's

879
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,100
my God, Mike Byrne.
That was on there.

880
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,200
Everybody was on there including
Anthony midget Mike.

881
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,100
Big Roger, Whittaker, every
household name, this is right

882
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:34,400
before when they left but he
never jumped on, he never jumped

883
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
on the same way.
He didn't meet the 99 team when

884
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,200
they were there for the
reunions.

885
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:42,400
So you know at the end of the
day man you got to get you got

886
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,500
to have somebody that cares
about players because when I

887
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,900
chose Virginia Tech, I was
ranked 4th in the nation by

888
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:51,900
Sporting News had offers from
Florida and every school you can

889
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,200
think of just about just like a
lot of guys that are heavily

890
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,200
recruited.
I was at a very rare.

891
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:00,400
We really, really historic
program at Hampton High where we

892
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,500
won national and state
championships, you know, it's

893
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,300
not the same now, but it's still
legendary.

894
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,200
I remember it was like they were
still rocking like that when I

895
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:16,900
was in high school, if I don't
come to tech, there is no might.

896
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:21,000
There is no Marcus.
I also helped host Lisa's.

897
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I also helped host Terrell parm
and other guys, and ronyell

898
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,200
Whitaker.
So my point being to Domino.

899
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Right?
You got to take care of the guys

900
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,500
laid down the groundwork, the
markets Parker is the Tony

901
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,100
Kennedy's.
You know, the Tyrone Drake was

902
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:36,400
you got to take care of those
guys.

903
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,500
The Chris berries you got to
take care of those guys because

904
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,800
they came and laid down the
groundwork, even the guys from

905
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,500
1987 in 1977 the gene buns.
Jean bun still is all time

906
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:51,300
interception leader for Virginia
Tech and he still follows the

907
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:53,000
team.
They had to create your own

908
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,600
tailgate space but God, no but
giatec Sports Hall of Fame.

909
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,500
Should not I have to create his
own tailgate space.

910
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:03,000
It's embarrassing.
So the point being is, but

911
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000
that's all being rectified right
now.

912
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,500
That's all being fixed.
So identity today to answer your

913
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,900
question, Kurt, man.
It's just it's exciting.

914
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:18,600
I'ma tell y'all right now spring
game might be 70,000 dog, right

915
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,500
now, we're in a buzz, I'm going
to be there, I know Curtis is

916
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,700
still trying to.
He's got, he's got, he's got,

917
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,800
he's got Ball games Lennox, man.
I'm gonna be there though.

918
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:33,800
I'm going to be there.
Yeah, I think I saw the golf

919
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,100
tournament thing drop today with
a bunch of big names.

920
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,600
Like the white golf tournament.
All right?

921
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,100
You gotta catch you, some of the
best swings, some of the worst

922
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,200
and put them on.
I know, I know, I talked to

923
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Mike, we supposed to be I can
tell you right now.

924
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,200
I'm not as bad as Berkeley.
But I know when I go to Top Golf

925
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,100
up here in northern Virginia, my
wife, my wife can play golf, she

926
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:06,500
can hit that thing I'm up there
looking like on the like, you

927
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:08,800
know, I just some I just learned
how to walk.

928
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,200
I just can't swing.
I don't know.

929
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,800
Golf.
Golf and baseball have my

930
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,100
respect because there's an
actual technique to it.

931
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,200
People think it's easy, but let
me tell you something.

932
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,000
But Devon Morgan is doing that
right?

933
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:28,200
Yeah, Morgan yeah yeah, sure.
Devon Devon, he hit me up when

934
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,600
he was planning it and he told
me he was going to be great man

935
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,200
and I'm I'm really happy that
you know it's just it's just

936
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,100
going to be a really good time.
It just it feels good because

937
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:39,300
it's how it's supposed to be.
That's why I know it's going to

938
00:54:39,308 --> 00:54:42,500
be a lot of people in town.
It's gonna be a great day,

939
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,200
hopefully the weather holds up,
I was there one year when the

940
00:54:45,207 --> 00:54:50,000
game got canceled, this is back.
When I think JC Coleman

941
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,800
committed or maybe Bucky Hodges
when we got like six commits,

942
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,500
but it rained out and we didn't
have it again.

943
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:59,700
And then I Are one year when it
raining still played it but it

944
00:54:59,707 --> 00:55:02,700
was just like uh when the
weather is nice and Blacksburg,

945
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,800
you can see all those orange and
maroon shirts.

946
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:06,800
You know.
I don't even care about the

947
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,500
game.
The game is always dry but it's

948
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:11,500
just the fact you get a chance
to see the future of the

949
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:13,600
program, you know?
Yeah.

950
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:17,300
Big Fan Experience.
Good chance to like get on the

951
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:19,400
field after the game.
Talk to the players a little

952
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,900
bit.
Talk to the some former players.

953
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:27,400
I know we last went the last
really What with the last real

954
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,600
decent spring game was the first
one if went days here.

955
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,800
I guess was the last decent one
back in 2016.

956
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:39,700
Yeah, that was a good time but
we really haven't had had a had

957
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:44,300
a proper spring game since then
- well you just you just you

958
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:46,500
depriving the fans man.
Let me tell you something, man,

959
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,600
and your fan base, especially up
a GM Tech, is your lifeline,

960
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,700
it's your foundation because,
you know, it gives you, it gives

961
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,900
you a little bit more.
To get yourself together like,

962
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:00,900
you know, because the fans
believe in you, man, it

963
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:02,500
permeates through the program,
right?

964
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,900
Because it's like, well, you
know what, we've been dealing

965
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:06,800
with injuries, we're going to
get this thing right when you

966
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,000
ostracised their fans and you
look down on us and you talk to

967
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,800
us as if we're inferior.
You are especially with tech

968
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,900
fans.
Yeah.

969
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:19,600
This is not that this is not the
fanbase to insult or act like

970
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,900
you know, more than us.
I mean, think about this, you

971
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,500
got boundary podcast, you got
the stuff I do.

972
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:30,100
You got Dom V.
You got my guy, Rick, Rick

973
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,600
Barry.
The auricular blues.

974
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,100
Here's my thing with Rick Barry
basketball.

975
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:39,800
But yeah, you got texts online.
I'm sorry if I'm anybody, but

976
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,900
this fan base in the culture
around it, the podcast Community

977
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,200
is so deep.
So rich and every I mean I told

978
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,700
you guys I check for your stuff
all the time.

979
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:50,300
You guys are always dropping
nuggets.

980
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,000
I sit there, I have it on my
phone, I'll turn the TV down,

981
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,500
I'll be listening to y'all my
wife's like what you're

982
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:55,900
listening to.
I'm not a yam.

983
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:59,400
My guys over the boundary, you
know, I mean so it's this great

984
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,000
man.
And I mean, the spring game is

985
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,900
going to be a lot of fun, not
entertainment.

986
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:06,200
I don't think the game is going
to be great, but it's going to

987
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,500
be cool to kind of get a glimpse
at.

988
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:09,900
Okay, I remember him.
He's the backup to this guy.

989
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:11,500
I like him.
He's got nice eyes.

990
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:13,900
I remember having a feel for the
roster.

991
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,000
I mean, the first game of the
year I'm like, who gets

992
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,800
especially, when guys switch
numbers, I don't even know who

993
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,600
the heck.
Anybody is anymore, man.

994
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,600
But you know, it's going to be
great.

995
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,900
Quarterbacks number one, I saw
that today.

996
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,600
They Browns going to take one
and that's a heck of the story

997
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,600
of kid from Fredericksburg, want
to go to take his whole life.

998
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:35,300
And he finally comes back in a
second transfer, which is

999
00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:38,900
awesome to hear.
Because he said, this is his

1000
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:42,900
dream school, and he went to st.
Francis play went down to South

1001
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:47,800
Carolina and then comes back up.
And you know, I wish I could

1002
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,300
make spring and I got two kids
and Sports in the spring.

1003
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:53,600
I'm just thankful.
It's going to be on TV.

1004
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:57,900
So when I get out of those games
I can, Come home, I can watch

1005
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:01,900
it, I can enjoy it because we
haven't even had that access

1006
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:05,000
over the last few years.
And I'm not talking to someone

1007
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,800
else that we hadn't had over the
last few years, is a real

1008
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,700
display in Virginia.
Recruiting That's not the case

1009
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:16,200
anymore.
Because of what we've done these

1010
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,800
first few months.
I mean, just Blitz and Virginia

1011
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,600
in every corner, it's buzzing
everywhere.

1012
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,200
It's not just buzzing here in
the RBA.

1013
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:28,000
It's not just buzzing up in
Northern Virginia, it's not just

1014
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,700
buzzing in this up.
It's everywhere.

1015
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:33,000
These guys are hitting every
school.

1016
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:36,900
And how is that making you guys
who are from Virginia?

1017
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,100
Feel like like Cornell.
I know.

1018
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,500
Cornell's coaching out in Texas
Joe.

1019
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:44,300
Rudolph went to EC glass to
visit.

1020
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:47,500
EC glass puts about one kid in a
D1.

1021
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,300
School about every ten years,
but Joe Rudolph.

1022
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:54,800
And his staff Walden there.
You decide to sit down and have

1023
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,400
a conversation with their head
coach in some of their

1024
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,800
administrators.
I said making you guys, it makes

1025
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,900
us good.
It makes us feel good.

1026
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:05,200
I remember a few years ago, my
wife and I were watching said

1027
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,400
being and she was like, I feel
like we don't have any gas from

1028
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,300
Virginia anymore.
I remember like Watching Ted

1029
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:12,600
games like oh yeah, I remember
that kid.

1030
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,300
He went to Stonebridge or like
we had like six guys from Deep

1031
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:21,200
Creek and four guys from Western
Branch and we had three kids

1032
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,900
from Thomas Dale and then you
had a couple of guys from

1033
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:27,400
Florida and two guys from
Georgia and it was just a great,

1034
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,000
great mix.
And I feel like, When bhima

1035
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,700
retired, he gave you the
blueprint.

1036
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:33,600
It just needed a little bit of
juice.

1037
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,500
He gave me the blueprint on
recruiting, you know, he was

1038
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,700
recruiting, he was recruiting
Derek naughty.

1039
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:42,100
He was recruiting, Josh, sweat,
and jailing homes.

1040
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:45,100
He was recruiting to Sean had
all Virginia, guys.

1041
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,400
He was recruiting.
Tim said, Owen Greg Stroman.

1042
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Look at you.
If you read formerly known as

1043
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Stonewall High School, all the
great guys that came from that

1044
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,100
High School, Tim settled, Greg
strowman Reggie, Floyd's Ryan

1045
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,100
Williams.
I mean, come on, bro.

1046
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:02,100
Like identity today we weren't
in the old school and even

1047
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:05,900
recently they had the guy that's
going to Alabama, you know I'm

1048
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:09,500
saying, Sean Murphy, who was a
five-star recruit so we weren't

1049
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:11,800
hitting those schools like we
were so I mean a lot of guys

1050
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,500
that happy man because there was
some resentment man, there was a

1051
01:00:15,508 --> 01:00:18,300
lot of resentment from former
players that felt like why are

1052
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:25,400
we not going to Oscar Smith
Highland Springs Westfield in

1053
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,700
those schools that are in the
state championship?

1054
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:31,900
So state tournament The playoffs
while we not going to Lafayette

1055
01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:35,900
that has a guy that looks like
just like dyrell Roberts who's

1056
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:38,700
going to Liberty or going to
Richmond, who wanted to be a

1057
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:42,400
hokie guys from Green Run High
School, who are three low for

1058
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,500
start recruits, who will Thrive
at Virginia Tech, we weren't

1059
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:49,300
even offering them.
I know the peninsula District my

1060
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:51,900
district where I play that used
to be the best District in

1061
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:55,300
Virginia for decades, it's not
anymore, but even so with that

1062
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:58,500
being said, Phoebus just won the
state championship and

1063
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:02,200
regardless of How good the
district is, Ricky Walker and

1064
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,200
other guys.
Jimmy Williams came from Bethel

1065
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,800
High School, we weren't offering
Bethel.

1066
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,300
But then you see how can't
pronounce his name awesome while

1067
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:13,900
whatever from Bethel, who wanted
to, go to Tech, who went to

1068
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:18,100
Northern in Orchard a kilt.
It and got drafted and you like

1069
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:21,400
he wanted to come to Tech.
We didn't offer him like that.

1070
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,000
What so again, that's a huge
thing because let me tell you

1071
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,000
guys, something you guys are,
you guys were in a podcast.

1072
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,100
I have a few podcasts.
I have Victory Life.

1073
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,700
Branding is everything.
The Virginia Tech brand for

1074
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:40,300
decades was very respected.
You had Beamer ball which was a

1075
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,100
household name.
They still yell at, you'll be

1076
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:45,600
watching the game.
Boise State playing Nevada on

1077
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,000
Saturday night at 10:30 in the
Galaxy a little bigger ball

1078
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,900
tonight, huh?
Like even like, wow and it has,

1079
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:54,000
you know, so then you had the
lunch pail.

1080
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,600
So you had two iconic, one
assaying, a phrase, another one

1081
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:05,100
assemble, a lunch pail, that
became a staple of Virginia Tech

1082
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:06,700
football.
That was known Nationwide

1083
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,400
branding and the brand have
become Stella last several years

1084
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,600
ago, nobody in Virginia
respected, The Branding anymore.

1085
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,500
And when you're losing the ODU
and Liberty and you're barely

1086
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:21,100
beating Richmond, your brand is
taking a hit because if you are

1087
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:22,900
nice player, you're a good
player.

1088
01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:25,500
You like, I mean y'all.
Loss of Liberty, man.

1089
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:28,500
What can you offer me?
You know, they put a guy, you

1090
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,500
know, and I'm not knocking I but
I have two masters from Liberty.

1091
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:35,200
I'm not knocking Liberty, but
don't make no mistake about it.

1092
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,200
I took a kid, but one of my
clients, two years ago, a few

1093
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,700
years ago on a College Tour, 20
to you.

1094
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:46,500
Most of their presentation,
especially the guy to, you know,

1095
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,500
culture, and why did she come to
ODU was about beating Virginia

1096
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:52,200
Tech?
And I was sitting there so

1097
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,400
embarrassed happy for my kid,
but like what?

1098
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:01,000
So my point being is the brand
in state took a hit because we

1099
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,700
didn't have any more State
pride.

1100
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,200
We didn't have any State pride,
you know?

1101
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:08,800
I'm sorry, but like I don't have
nothing against Texas, man.

1102
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,200
What's Texas doing right now?
I mean, Texas football really

1103
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,300
come on, man, this is not 1988
with Boobie Miles, you know,

1104
01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:18,500
saying this is not, you know,
I'm saying, this is not that we

1105
01:03:18,508 --> 01:03:21,300
don't text this.
I mean, think about Ami High

1106
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:23,900
School coaches.
Y'all know, I know a lot that

1107
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:28,300
were offended with that.
Hashtag, I know that's old news.

1108
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:31,800
Now is water under the bridge
but at the end of the day we are

1109
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,100
very, very happy I speak for a
lot of us, the fact that we were

1110
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:38,500
recruiting State and here's the
thing I love Virginia but I also

1111
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:42,000
want to get the Florida guys.
I want to get know your Georgia

1112
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,700
and South Carolina, but you got
to you got to take care of our

1113
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,000
home.
You got to George Welch, a great

1114
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,100
UVA Coach Frank Beamer.
The icon, the god, the Hall of

1115
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:55,200
Fame.
Coach both said, you know you,

1116
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,800
when you stay, you're going to
be in great shape.

1117
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,800
You know, you when your state
you're going to be playing for a

1118
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,800
lot because Virginia is the rich
taking talent.

1119
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,900
I mean, look how many times
Alabama and Ohio State and

1120
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:07,500
Clemson come down here and pluck
players, you know?

1121
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:10,400
And I'm just glad that would
make an effort to get those

1122
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,400
guys.
You know I'm saying Yeah, it's

1123
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,200
been a big push and I'm glad to
see you, too.

1124
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,200
I mean, we had talked to a
couple High School coaches, that

1125
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:23,700
as you said were offended by
that push you know, especially

1126
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,300
when you have other folks
talking about.

1127
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:28,000
Well, the town in Virginia.
Wasn't that good this year?

1128
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:33,800
That's why we were looking
outside the state that Ruffles

1129
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,100
feathers.
I mean, any, it doesn't

1130
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:38,400
necessarily burn Bridges, but it
makes it a hell of a lot harder

1131
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,700
to get across them. that guy
said that when the sons and

1132
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:45,000
Saturday that the guy was on the
sons of Saturday podcast, that

1133
01:04:45,000 --> 01:05:19,500
said that fruiting You know.
Is you won't even join your due

1134
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:23,700
diligence and even to second to
that point, he won't even do

1135
01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:26,700
your due diligence.
And we're losing two kids that

1136
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:31,100
were at Wake Forest.
And Boston, College, and

1137
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,700
Liberty.
Who were the guys that you said,

1138
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:35,400
weren't good enough to play a
tech.

1139
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,700
So my point being is wait, for
is even now has a guy named

1140
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:42,400
justice, Allison, his dad
Shelly.

1141
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,300
I listened with the help that I
play with me.

1142
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:47,500
His mom is also a graduate of
Virginia Tech Sharia, listen.

1143
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,600
In.
And he's a baller for Wake

1144
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,200
Forest.
He went to Foothill never even

1145
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,800
interest from Tech.
Again, it's a private school in

1146
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Fairfax County but you've got to
know the connections and there

1147
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,600
are a lot of former players like
me that text the coaches that

1148
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,500
say hey coach check out this guy
but they stopped doing it.

1149
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,100
And they would Drake injures
another guy, he's a Lynchburg

1150
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:12,200
God, he starts in his guys to
UVA, another Schools, home

1151
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,500
visits and recruiting camps
because he knew Tech wasn't

1152
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,000
gonna take interest in them like
to me.

1153
01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:20,900
Force in Boston College and
Liberty are beating you with the

1154
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:22,800
same, guys, you said weren't
good enough to play at your

1155
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,600
school.
Pittsburgh Pittsburgh had seven

1156
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,600
guys.
Yeah, tons of guys from the 757

1157
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,700
you know again.
Anyway you guys to try and get

1158
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:34,600
me riled up.
It's late way, can't Boogie

1159
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:41,400
bash.
Yeah, but there are so many now

1160
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:48,200
I'm going to say this because I
had a lot of Virginia I think

1161
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:52,400
think JC might have been that
dagger that forced it because

1162
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,700
you start looking to 2022, you
got like gonna given to somebody

1163
01:06:57,700 --> 01:07:00,600
tie.
You got Meadows and Ahmad,

1164
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,800
Bradshaw, son from Bluefield Ice
Cube from up your way.

1165
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:08,500
Malachi Madison from Thomas.
Dale here.

1166
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:14,700
Lamar Law Firm down into seven.
It's like JC showed up with the

1167
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,500
old coaching staff and said
look.

1168
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:23,500
There is a lot of good kids here
and these guys can come play for

1169
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:27,900
us in the thing is if you start
cultivating a relationship and

1170
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:31,700
taking the kid who can play
here, when that five-star comes

1171
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:34,600
in, you're going to be in.
I don't think the old staff

1172
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,800
believed it would work.
I think the newsstand truly

1173
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,900
believes that.
It works like relationships

1174
01:07:40,900 --> 01:07:43,600
first relationships.
They're preaching it like

1175
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:48,100
relationships are key because if
I come Come down and visit

1176
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:51,600
everybody in the school and I
know everybody's name in.

1177
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:56,500
There was a there was some to
Starkid we like and we gave me a

1178
01:07:56,508 --> 01:08:01,000
scholarship.
When the Big 4 star 5 Star kids

1179
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,700
in that school, they're gonna
remember years ago.

1180
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,700
Y'all gave John a chance.
Mmm play yep.

1181
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:29,800
Nope, people don't.
Lou off the table, your former

1182
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,399
teammate which Summit, which one
of these new staff members has

1183
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:38,100
like culture that you like, you
know, maybe you've already

1184
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,200
talked to him or like I want to
talk to him.

1185
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:48,800
What did call them cheetah?
The cheetah coach.

1186
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:52,000
He just really look like.
He's a fun guy to hang out with

1187
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,100
man.
Like he just looks like he's the

1188
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,899
guy and let me just before I
dive into that just want to say

1189
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,100
I am a big fan.
They didn't, he didn't he wasn't

1190
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:04,600
retained but I just want to say
that someone on are on live on

1191
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,000
your podcast.
I feel like Justin Hamilton that

1192
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,300
the hell of a job as a coach.
I love Justin Hamilton As a

1193
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:15,200
person, he's a great coaching
mind.

1194
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,100
I feel like he would have been
great but I understand it's a

1195
01:09:17,108 --> 01:09:20,100
business because I wanted
coached on Spring to come back.

1196
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:22,200
He you know, he's a guy that I
thought would be great for

1197
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,399
recruiting and he was definitely
interested in coming back.

1198
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:32,000
But as far as the new staff,
man, obviously my man Rudolf the

1199
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,100
old line coach, right?
I mean dude, like he just

1200
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:39,899
reminds me of my old coach coach
Grimes who coached at Virginia

1201
01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:43,500
Tech coach in the SEC.
The SEC guy but he was at

1202
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:45,800
Virginia Tech during the 90s
actually probably was there with

1203
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,800
J-B Grimes.
Keep him in prayer, child to

1204
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,399
coach ground, he's down the
cancer.

1205
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,400
So I wanted him to get healthy
and get well, but cheetahs fund.

1206
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,800
May I look at his tweets and he
just always talking trash but

1207
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,300
also dropping knowledge.
Yeah, so he looks like he just

1208
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:06,100
always having a good time and
then Coach Rudolph, man, just

1209
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:07,700
looks like somebody would have
loved to play for.

1210
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:10,400
I mean, just looks like he's
always walking around with the

1211
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,400
chin out and he looks like he
has He shaved in a couple of

1212
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,300
weeks and he just looks like,
you know, he doesn't care if you

1213
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:19,900
like him.
Those are two guys, I think are

1214
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:22,700
going to be huge for the staff
because I think that have a

1215
01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:23,800
balance.
You got to have the right

1216
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,800
energy.
I'm did Jack.

1217
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,000
Tyler, did they retain him?
They did not retain Jack.

1218
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,700
Okay?
I thought they did how was

1219
01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:36,200
shelter?
Jake Tyler anyway man.

1220
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,500
You know, he wasn't he was in a
tough situation.

1221
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,000
Yeah.
But he got put in a tough spot

1222
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:46,000
that was going to be A hard task
for anybody in their first year.

1223
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,500
Is your position coach?
He did.

1224
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:51,000
He was assistant the year
before.

1225
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,900
But first, you know what that,
what you full Duty, man?

1226
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:55,800
That's crazy.
You know what's funny?

1227
01:10:56,300 --> 01:11:00,400
You know what's funny man?
Is that That's what I love about

1228
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,100
this staff as they have
personality.

1229
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:05,500
And we know them, I felt for the
longest time in the previous

1230
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:09,400
regime, there was no connection.
We didn't know him where before

1231
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:15,000
that staff, we had Billy.
Hi coach cabin, you know you had

1232
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,200
Brian Stein, spring Bud Foster.
You knew them like you knew the

1233
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,300
staff you knew my Gentry they
weren't just household names

1234
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,800
with the Virginia Tech Community
but also in South West Virginia

1235
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,900
they had commercials they had
car Our ships, they had barber

1236
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:32,700
shops.
They also did press conferences

1237
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:35,000
after games.
So you were here from being

1238
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,400
more, you heard from Stein
spring, you heard from them

1239
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,300
during the week, this staff
we're hearing from your hearing

1240
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:44,700
from you saw piercing prioleau
who II know very well we were

1241
01:11:44,708 --> 01:11:47,600
very close.
Piercing is not a social media

1242
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,900
guy, but now I see him posting
pictures, and Northern Virginia.

1243
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:54,800
I'm here, let's go.
I'm like, what Pearson really

1244
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,400
like, that's crazy because
Pearson is a very reserved guy.

1245
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:02,900
I mean, at the same time, man,
like I think when I, as I

1246
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:05,300
mentioned, you know, cheetah and
These Guys, these coaches are

1247
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:09,200
all on Twitter.
I will say, is it coach Boeing

1248
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,800
the o.c.?
Yeah, I'm curious to see what

1249
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,300
he's about my guy.
Todd Washington, who coach with

1250
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:18,300
him.
Yeah, is no Todd, Todd, Todd was

1251
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,600
with them in Jacksonville.
And Todd told me straight up.

1252
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,300
He said, no, I said, do give me
this.

1253
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:25,600
Give me the goods.
He said, nah, great guy.

1254
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,900
Great, man, great coach.
He's going to be great for Tech

1255
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:30,500
and Todd is not Not.
No, yeah, that's going.

1256
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,900
He doesn't paint.
He's not gonna sugarcoat it.

1257
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,700
I'm curious to know about him as
a coach.

1258
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:50,500
I'm curious to see what kind of
scheme he does.

1259
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,600
Is he a gambler?
Is he going to go for it on

1260
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,800
Fourth and three?
Is he going to be predictable or

1261
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,900
is he going to be Smash Mouth?
What's going to be our identity?

1262
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:01,700
Whatever it is.
I just want to have an identity

1263
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:04,600
again, I mean, I feel like we
are, you know, Castaway Tom

1264
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,200
Hanks with the volleyball.
Like we just been Cast Away for

1265
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,000
five years, trying to figure out
how to get back to the States.

1266
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,900
You know I'm saying?
So like I didn't.

1267
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,300
Well, the end of the day, man.
You know, go ahead.

1268
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,000
Go.
Right.

1269
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,000
What was it a month ago?
About a month ago?

1270
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:27,400
Yeah, we go Brian looked at
Boeing scheme.

1271
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,800
Olympic Games.
He called when he was at Penn

1272
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,500
State and games.
He called when he was at

1273
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:38,500
Fordham.
And I mean, it's a lot of heavy.

1274
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:43,000
I mean, obviously he was working
either under or with a Joe

1275
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Moorhead, or Jim, or head
disciple.

1276
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:51,700
So a lot of it was Joe Moorhead
offense influence, but the games

1277
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:56,900
he called, there was definitely
an identity used running backs.

1278
01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:01,000
I was, I was saying during That
episode pretty much every game.

1279
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,300
I saw about three running backs,
got about 10 carries so you're

1280
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:08,600
going to see running backs,
getting different looks, but

1281
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,500
it's going to be heavy on the
Run, they're going to use the

1282
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:12,600
tight end a lot in a lot of
different ways.

1283
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:15,800
And then they're going to do
some, some creative stuff with

1284
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,100
the route tree for the, for the
passing game.

1285
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:21,300
I love it, man.
We had so many running backs

1286
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,900
that there was no rhythm.
I'm not going to go back down

1287
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:28,300
there but you know what, the sad
part and allow me to.

1288
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:31,400
The gun is really quickly as
that because I played, I used to

1289
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,300
feel so bad for someone to run
it backs and receivers we had.

1290
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:37,400
I remember I was a big fan of
Hezekiah Grimsley and I felt

1291
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,000
like he was underutilized, I
felt like he, you know, as some

1292
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,400
games.
He would be really good at that

1293
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,200
slot position and he could, you
know, catch that fade route to

1294
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,600
50/50 ball and then he would
disappear for three weeks.

1295
01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:52,300
And then, you know, I would feel
like, you know, we would have a

1296
01:14:52,308 --> 01:14:55,700
good thing going with a running
back and then he would, you

1297
01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:59,300
know, have a great 23 series.
And then you wouldn't see him

1298
01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:01,200
the rest of the game.
And then the next week, he would

1299
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,800
even touch the field.
And I'll be like why are we use?

1300
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,500
I remember there was a kid.
I liked him a lot.

1301
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:11,500
I do I'm sure you all remember
him Wheatley Wheatley yeah yeah

1302
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:14,400
he was not no more.
He dropped more to go.

1303
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:19,200
He dropped one pot pass we never
saw him again and there was like

1304
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,600
man he dropped a ball.
We never saw him again.

1305
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,900
I thought he had a good role
going you know you got to look

1306
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:26,700
man.
Like you got to give me a

1307
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:28,200
chance.
I just felt like we were just

1308
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,900
too.
It to give up on guys and then

1309
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:33,400
just felt like there was no true
sense of chemistry and

1310
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,300
cohesiveness.
It was just like, this is my

1311
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:41,200
guy, I mean, you did see it with
the one kid that's playing for

1312
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,500
the Bears, the great running
Barber kill Herbert.

1313
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:47,300
Yeah, I mean, but I mean
honestly, you weren't going to

1314
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:50,500
not use him but even with him,
if I want to be critical, the

1315
01:15:50,508 --> 01:15:53,200
Wake Forest game.
Like we got down and we stop

1316
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,600
giving him the ball that we gave
the ball.

1317
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,900
We came back, it's like you
don't have to run whether it's

1318
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:02,400
hidden hooker or whoever it is
you don't have to run your

1319
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,000
quarterback 27 times but I'm
excited.

1320
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,500
But I pulled my hair out of that
Wake Forest game that that was

1321
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,400
the most frustrating game to
watch of the Fuente era in my

1322
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,200
opinion.
The one where we lost that wake,

1323
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,200
right?
Yeah.

1324
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,300
And I remember talking to him
after that game.

1325
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:25,600
What I kid you not I'm like
Brian why we run it their best

1326
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,000
player All game and Brian just
these like a lot of expletives,

1327
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,800
I don't know.
He's like, I looked at it, we

1328
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,100
should have been outside Zone,
get away from Boogie, but he's

1329
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:39,500
our best player.
Everybody else is worse and we

1330
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,900
did the exact opposite.
Well, I mean look, the

1331
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:44,200
Pittsburgh game.
That's another one.

1332
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,700
This past.
When I remember I was watching

1333
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:49,100
that game and Mike called me for
those Mike Vick called me.

1334
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:51,300
He was like, yo, what are we
doing bro?

1335
01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:54,500
Hell's like, what do you mean?
I said you you've been watching.

1336
01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:58,000
It was like this is before the
Ain't got to handle 100.

1337
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,100
We had three straight
possessions.

1338
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,100
We just kept throwing the ball
and throwing the ball.

1339
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,000
Yeah.
And he was like he said, he said

1340
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,800
they're putting too much
pressure on the quarterback.

1341
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,700
He was like, he was like, we
need to run the ball.

1342
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:14,000
He was like you know we're just
too impatient.

1343
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,400
I remember that the postgame
presser Wednesday was talking

1344
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,600
about how everyone knows pit
likes to stack.

1345
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,100
The box and Challenger
receivers.

1346
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,800
I'm like impose your will it run
the ball?

1347
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:27,200
Yeah it was windy may be imposed
We'll run the ball.

1348
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,000
You don't have to go because we
did not have a get.

1349
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,500
I get it that year, we beat them
in Heinz Field.

1350
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,000
Yeah.
But you had 32 best receivers in

1351
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,500
Virginia Tech History.
Of course you are going to go

1352
01:17:37,508 --> 01:17:39,700
get ice.
Yeah, there you go, throw face.

1353
01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:58,400
I don't want to go back there.
That was it was it was some

1354
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,100
rough days.
Some Saturdays, it's okay.

1355
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:05,500
We got to talk about it because
we went through it.

1356
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:08,900
If you can't look he can't look
back and reflect on those lean

1357
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:12,800
years man.
And that joke, one of my big

1358
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,800
jokes and a couple people call
me out a couple times.

1359
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,900
Mike young had rough into games
and I'd be like Jesus.

1360
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:23,200
He's doing it for Wednesday,
people.

1361
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,100
Like you can't say that about my
I'm like, I love Mike.

1362
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,100
Everybody knows what I'm talking
about.

1363
01:18:31,100 --> 01:19:02,000
Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no.
Trying to get that that hate to

1364
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,100
lose mentality based on what
you've seen and what you've

1365
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:08,400
heard and everything you
noticing something different

1366
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:12,000
with winter workouts that we
hadn't seen in the past, at

1367
01:19:12,008 --> 01:19:16,000
least in the last few years.
That's what I God, the more

1368
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,900
committed.
I feel like, you know, there's a

1369
01:19:17,900 --> 01:19:21,200
buy-in and not feel like from
what I'm hearing and when I'm

1370
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,700
saying, I feel like the players
feel like these coaches, know

1371
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:28,900
what they're doing.
I feel like before players could

1372
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:32,000
kids, they're young, they're
teenagers in their twenties but

1373
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,300
they still know what's going on.
I feel like now it's work.

1374
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:39,200
Like they feel like okay, like
I'm being challenged, I have to

1375
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,700
earn everything.
And I mean, I mean again, I

1376
01:19:42,708 --> 01:19:45,700
don't make too much of offseason
work because every program in

1377
01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:47,800
America thinks they're working
hard right now.

1378
01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:51,500
But real programs that are
working hard understand when

1379
01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:53,300
they are because the results are
to show.

1380
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:57,100
Not just in their testing and
They're in their performance.

1381
01:19:57,100 --> 01:20:00,800
But it also shows when they're
playing and when you see them

1382
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,300
dominate on the field, so I feel
like there's a buying I feel

1383
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:06,900
like right now.
There's been a Rejuvenation,

1384
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:11,800
there's a buy-in because of the
culture that's been established

1385
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,700
and that's starting to build in
Blacksburg, I think in previous

1386
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:20,100
years.
You know, not to knock on wood,

1387
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:25,400
but for the first time ever,
we're not talking about transfer

1388
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,400
portal.
We're not talking about a DUI or

1389
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:34,900
some murder with some guy,
allegedly a drag queen, you

1390
01:20:34,907 --> 01:20:38,100
know, it's just, we are now
dealing with football like every

1391
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:42,100
year was like a coach, and
always, something always

1392
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,700
something a coach messing with
the recruits mom.

1393
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:49,500
The SI article, and Turkey,
bacon transfer portal.

1394
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,200
You got starters.
You know, people like why is,

1395
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,000
why is this guy leaving?
He was the leading receiver.

1396
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,000
He's transferred.
We don't have that right now.

1397
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,000
Yeah, you guys, I think you had
some of the bullshit story

1398
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,200
spread about Kuma Quitman.
Like nah, man went out there and

1399
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,800
like, tore up Marshall.
That's not a player that's out

1400
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,500
there.
Yeah, I mean, just some of the

1401
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:16,600
shit that just was coming out.
I will see you.

1402
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:22,100
Formulated like trying to trying
to set an agenda, discredit.

1403
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,400
Yeah, they try to yeah, yeah,
he's coming out.

1404
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,600
Yeah, that's what happened, bro.
And you mentioned training

1405
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,800
portal since the offseason
happened one.

1406
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:36,700
Yep, that's not.
Usually you got a new guy in.

1407
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:41,200
Usually, you see the plethora of
people go, one guy has entered

1408
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,100
the portals, but you know what?
I love coach proper.

1409
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:47,600
One reason he was straight up
today and said I expect after

1410
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:53,800
Spring football, we're going to
see attrition, yeah, you know

1411
01:21:53,800 --> 01:22:26,500
what?
About beings.

1412
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,900
I'm that's Frank Beamer for,
they don't know, being took guys

1413
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:32,200
from Baltimore City and Dade
County.

1414
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,600
He took some guys that other
programs could not handle and

1415
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,400
cultivate a culture where they
left as better men and he dealt

1416
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,100
with adversity and controversy
where y'all didn't know about

1417
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:45,200
even during the social media.
Are that begin years after I

1418
01:22:45,208 --> 01:22:48,100
left, they knew how to handle
certain guys.

1419
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,300
There were guys that got in
trouble or that were Rough

1420
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:55,300
Around the Edges, like, Trayvon
Hill, but they were taking care

1421
01:22:55,300 --> 01:22:58,000
of Of and they you knew how to
communicate with them just

1422
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,300
because they didn't tuck their
shirts in or they were from the

1423
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:03,300
hood or they were from
somewhere.

1424
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:07,200
You didn't want to go to, they
were still welcome, but some

1425
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,800
guys that they're now because
they're easier to coach and they

1426
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,800
shouldn't be there.
And that's fine because we're

1427
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,000
prize talking about, is he needs
his guys?

1428
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,600
Not so much.
Your affluent a guy you're a

1429
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,700
beamer.
Got no, he needs his guys.

1430
01:23:20,900 --> 01:23:22,300
I try to tell people all the
time.

1431
01:23:22,700 --> 01:23:27,400
Head coach.
Has to have staff players,

1432
01:23:28,300 --> 01:23:32,100
cleaning crew, janitorial staff.
The food administrators

1433
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:36,600
everybody secretaries executive
assistants everybody has to be

1434
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,100
trusted.
They have to have his back.

1435
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:41,600
When his back is turned Beaver,
had cabin.

1436
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,300
All coach, hi Bruce Gardens,
John Berlin, Prague has to have

1437
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:49,700
players when they're out at the
parties and they're doing

1438
01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:53,100
anything in the offseason, he
can trust them and he can rely

1439
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:55,300
on them on their feet.
Cee-trust is not just when

1440
01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:58,900
you're at a party or there in
the girls doing room and they

1441
01:23:58,900 --> 01:24:01,700
realize she says no and they're
not going to go forward, it's

1442
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,400
also can I trust you on Third
and seven when we were on the

1443
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,700
road in Miami where up 21 and
17, we need to stop to hold him

1444
01:24:07,700 --> 01:24:09,900
to a field goal.
That's what he needs.

1445
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,200
Not guys that want to post on IG
and throw up gang gang and talk

1446
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,300
about I'm in the building.
Throw it up for your boy because

1447
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:19,400
those guys don't show up when
it's time to play.

1448
01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:22,800
So he's got to get his guys that
believe in the same way Lauren

1449
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,900
Johnson when he first got.
Mountain Springs.

1450
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:28,000
He had a lot of guys that left
and now he has a culture there

1451
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,700
where he has a standing room.
Only those guys were run and

1452
01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:33,400
jump off a cliff for him.
That's was prized creating in

1453
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,700
Blacksburg.
He's creating a culture and

1454
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:38,900
nutritionists party game.
Yeah, some guys ain't cut out

1455
01:24:38,900 --> 01:24:42,000
for it, bro.
It's true.

1456
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:44,000
Yeah, Jamie.
I think what he's talking about,

1457
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,200
he's like, you know, everybody's
got a clean slate, but nothing

1458
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,200
is Promised.
Yeah, it's been.

1459
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,800
Some guys has been lied to and
promise, that's the problem.

1460
01:24:53,700 --> 01:25:16,200
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Now back to the episode I and we

1468
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:43,800
are back in I'm going to ask
another question.

1469
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:48,300
Hi Dwight.
Did you see the picture of the

1470
01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:50,500
coach Clinic they did here in
Richmond?

1471
01:25:51,700 --> 01:25:56,900
Yeah man.
They did one down in the 75.

1472
01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:04,300
The next day you saw pictures of
it there but you know, We know

1473
01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:05,900
this is relationship-building,
right?

1474
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,000
But in and they're trying to go
for long-term success.

1475
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,300
But do you think of we talked
about the Blitz and talk about

1476
01:26:13,300 --> 01:26:15,200
these plans.
We talk from here prior to date.

1477
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:20,600
Talk about you know our
lifelines for Virginia Tech

1478
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,400
fans.
We're here to do things for you

1479
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,700
if your alumni we're here to do
things for you.

1480
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,400
The coaches in Virginia.
We're here to do things for you.

1481
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:32,200
You think we can see.
Is it going to take a long time

1482
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,200
or do you think we can see a
quick turnaround in some of

1483
01:26:35,208 --> 01:26:40,500
these schools to where Like the
ears perk up and say, yeah, I

1484
01:26:40,508 --> 01:26:44,100
know, Carolina in South Carolina
and change coming at me hard,

1485
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:49,500
but I'm staying home because
they're building something, you

1486
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:51,500
know, by the way, tried to my
God.

1487
01:26:51,500 --> 01:26:53,300
Shane, let me tell you something
right now.

1488
01:26:53,900 --> 01:26:56,000
Regardless of what we build
Shane's always going to be tough

1489
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,200
to recruit against kushina's a
energetic.

1490
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,900
He's just, that's just, he's
going to be a thorn in our side

1491
01:27:00,900 --> 01:27:03,200
but not to the point where we're
not going to always get kids

1492
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,000
because of him.
But we're going to have to

1493
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,500
outward Shan Shan.
I like Shane.

1494
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:10,000
I love Shane actually, that's my
guy and he's building something,

1495
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,400
but I still think when we play
them in a few years, right?

1496
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,000
Yep.
Yeah, that's that's going to be

1497
01:27:16,008 --> 01:27:17,800
a lot of fun man that's gonna be
a lot of fun.

1498
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:22,000
I think the turnaround can be
quick because I think it's

1499
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,300
effort.
I think it's just about

1500
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:25,100
relationships.
I mean there's been a lot of

1501
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:28,300
damage and on and there were
some teams and programs

1502
01:27:28,300 --> 01:27:32,500
ostracised but I feel like when
you're sincere like I'm a

1503
01:27:32,508 --> 01:27:35,400
sincere person.
So like if I apologize why do

1504
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,800
something right people believe?
Me, I think if people believe,

1505
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:43,200
pride, in his staff, you can
tell the efforts there, like

1506
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,000
even like early on there, Oscar
Smith coaches felt some kind of

1507
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,700
way, and it was a little bit of
a Twitter beef and then it all

1508
01:27:48,700 --> 01:27:51,000
got squared away and you realize
you didn't hear about anymore

1509
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,200
because he got taken care of and
you're going to see a lot of

1510
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,800
Oscars for the players coming
attack.

1511
01:27:57,700 --> 01:28:00,300
I don't think, you know, I saw
some tweets you know, after the

1512
01:28:00,308 --> 01:28:03,300
Maryland game and I respect my
followers and the people I

1513
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:07,600
follow, it's going to be a long
turn around and No, it's not.

1514
01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:11,900
You know what's funny and I'm
not trying to say we're in the

1515
01:28:11,900 --> 01:28:14,800
same situation because every
program has its own Journey.

1516
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:20,000
But in it take Dabo that long
once he started, you know,

1517
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,000
people say okay, this guy really
means it.

1518
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:24,400
I mean, I know he could be, you
know, people thought he was kind

1519
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,300
of corny and stuff, but I did
need a day, he came in and, you

1520
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:33,200
know, he did what he did.
I think when it comes down to it

1521
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,100
you when you when you're sincere
and you're building something,

1522
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,600
And coaches, and the high school
level, see it in believe because

1523
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,700
their coaches to, and some of
them can even be coaching the

1524
01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:45,000
Collegiate level, they'll
believe it, and they'll let

1525
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,900
their players believe it.
So, I don't think it's going to

1526
01:28:48,900 --> 01:28:51,900
be a long as I don't foresee it
being like seven years.

1527
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:54,000
Six years.
I think the whole thing would

1528
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,100
winning.
That's a different story because

1529
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:57,700
Virginia Tech's got to get
depth.

1530
01:28:57,900 --> 01:28:59,800
They got to get some depth on
the d-line.

1531
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:03,600
I mean we always like one injury
and all the sudden we got guys

1532
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,600
that are you know, serving Cold
Stone ice cream.

1533
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:10,100
And defensive tackle that's
like, why do we not have enough

1534
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:13,900
defensive tackles like, how is
this college football while we

1535
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:17,800
always the only program that has
a move of God from safety to D

1536
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,600
in what happened to?
I bet.

1537
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,200
You know I'm saying?
It's just crazy man.

1538
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:26,600
Like I don't understand it, but
but we don't have six reliable D

1539
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:31,300
tackles like it just makes me
his cringe is crazy.

1540
01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:33,700
Like we always like yeah we're
going to be hurted.

1541
01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:35,400
It that serious.
It come.

1542
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,500
Like what we went from A starter
to now, we got to bring a walk

1543
01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:42,200
in from Lake Braddock.
I don't understand.

1544
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,300
Like why are we in that
situation, bro?

1545
01:29:44,300 --> 01:29:48,400
But I think that's the
combination of attrition, not

1546
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,800
recruiting with a real strategy
in mind understanding how to get

1547
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,300
people to build on, you know?
Yeah.

1548
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,700
Leaving the recorded, the
recruiting plan, the roster

1549
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:09,900
management especially after I'd
say After the the 2017 2018

1550
01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:13,900
class.
Like you got bad real quick and

1551
01:30:13,900 --> 01:30:17,900
it wasn't great to start off but
he got real bad just stacking so

1552
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:20,300
many players at one position in
one class.

1553
01:30:20,900 --> 01:30:24,900
Like you, you know, if you take
five wide receivers in one

1554
01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:26,900
class, you know, two or three of
them are going to transfer

1555
01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:28,700
before they even get to touch
the field.

1556
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:30,800
Why are you taking so many
receivers, bro?

1557
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,100
And running backs.
Running backs became a thing to.

1558
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:36,500
We had we had 111 scholarship
running backs that other shit.

1559
01:30:39,300 --> 01:30:41,700
Let me tell you, man.
I'm until I stand.

1560
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:44,500
I could have play receiver at
Tech if I was a receiver, but I

1561
01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:46,700
will say it and then I'll say it
now.

1562
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:52,400
Virginia Tech Will begin winning
when they get the defense and

1563
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,900
offensive line.
The way it's supposed to be, I

1564
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:58,700
promise you, it's not about
being an SEC.

1565
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:02,400
You look at Georgia, you look at
Clemson, you look at, even the

1566
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,700
programs like Pittsburgh that
won, the ACC.

1567
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:08,800
You look at the teams that win
consistently eat, if they went

1568
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,900
eight or nine games, they have
an identity and they have

1569
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,900
players on the ELA s, which is
the line of scrimmage, you'll

1570
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:18,600
all offensive.
And Of line, you look at the

1571
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,300
Rams, you look at teams that win
even in high school Phoebus,

1572
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:27,000
that one division for you.
Look at Oscar Smith, they ran

1573
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:32,500
through a battlefield because
they have guys, my size in high

1574
01:31:32,500 --> 01:31:35,500
school, they control the line of
scrimmage.

1575
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,100
Yep.
All this, all this sexiness on.

1576
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:40,600
He can catch.
He's got his shirt rolled up.

1577
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,300
He's got abs.
Listen, that's cute for IG.

1578
01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:47,900
We need some, we need some
winning.

1579
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:50,000
Some record Ralph's.
Surreal bigger.

1580
01:31:50,900 --> 01:31:53,200
Yeah, you got to have some guys
that can push the pop.

1581
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,700
That's why I was a big fan of
that kid.

1582
01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:58,900
That went to Minnesota and the
Kid Rock Hoffman.

1583
01:31:58,900 --> 01:32:01,500
I like him.
I like, guys like that play,

1584
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:05,200
like, Jake Grove Dre Grove would
dump his own mom.

1585
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:14,100
If she was in front of him at a
three technique, I think if you

1586
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:18,900
can run the ball, And protect
your quarterback and stop the

1587
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,100
run and and sacked the
quarterback.

1588
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,100
You're gonna win a shit ton of
games walk.

1589
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,200
Yep, that's just what else?
Yeah, you said it earlier.

1590
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,000
I think that's why you're
excited about Rudolph.

1591
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,100
He gives you that Vibe of JB
Grimes.

1592
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,500
But then you look at his
Wisconsin teams, all Americans,

1593
01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:40,300
getting drafted, nasty, that
nasty, they're not pretty

1594
01:32:40,300 --> 01:32:43,000
blocking that.
You're trying to mall someone.

1595
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,100
Yes and no one.
JC's mentality on the defensive

1596
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:51,900
line and how he recruits.
I mean can we have death row?

1597
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:56,300
2022 can death row it can we do
that?

1598
01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:01,400
Not at JC.
Price is reunited with pride,

1599
01:33:01,900 --> 01:33:03,600
that's another you just drop
right there.

1600
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,400
Kurt Watch, What Happens, watch
what?

1601
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:11,600
See again the line and Old Line.
Look at all the successful teams

1602
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:17,300
in the Big Ten and the ACC and
the SEC even In the meac, even

1603
01:33:17,300 --> 01:33:21,300
in a small conference as you've
got to have the o-line d-line

1604
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:24,400
death.
And again, like crying just

1605
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,000
said, at the end of the day,
man, you got to be able to

1606
01:33:26,008 --> 01:33:28,600
protect your quarterback and you
got to be able to get a third in

1607
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,500
one on the goal line.
You got to be able to move like

1608
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,600
a lot of times we were just too
cute.

1609
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:38,300
We didn't have any physical like
you had it at moments like we

1610
01:33:38,300 --> 01:33:40,200
have y it to why.
It was one of my all-time

1611
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,200
favorites.
Why?

1612
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,100
I tell her was nasty.
Why I tell her.

1613
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:48,100
You see what he's doing?
NFL, he make it highlights.

1614
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:54,300
There's a guard in the NFL
because he has people in my

1615
01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:56,400
until I met him in high esteem.
I'm gonna post a picture.

1616
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,900
If I don't forget, he was at one
of my football camps and he was

1617
01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:03,300
a UVA lean, and he asked me
about tech because he was

1618
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,600
spiritual well, he is spiritual
and he, you know, he really

1619
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,700
liked Mike London.
He said, you know, I like the

1620
01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:11,600
fact he's a man of faith.
And I said, no, my London is a

1621
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,500
great guy, and he asked me about
Beamer.

1622
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:15,700
I said, Beamer is very
spiritual.

1623
01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:19,100
He's Afraid to he was like
really I said he just not going

1624
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:21,100
to try to sell you about it
because you know, you have your

1625
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:24,700
own, your own walk and you know
about a month later, he

1626
01:34:24,700 --> 01:34:28,100
committed to Tech and I told
people then I was like, we just

1627
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:30,600
got ourself a steal because, you
know, he was projected as a d

1628
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,800
lineman, but he put on so much
weight.

1629
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,200
He got so strong, man.
He was a monster, a toll on.

1630
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,700
I'm not surprised how well he's
doing NFL man, and he's one of

1631
01:34:39,708 --> 01:34:42,000
my favorite people.
You also want them 157.

1632
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:46,300
So why I tell her why I tell
her, but you got to have Guys

1633
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:47,800
like that.
And it guess what?

1634
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,700
Guys, he's from Bilton, which is
up here in Northern Virginia.

1635
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,900
He went to Liberty High School.
You know, again, I mean it's not

1636
01:34:55,900 --> 01:34:57,700
that hard and again, that's
fine.

1637
01:34:57,700 --> 01:34:59,400
It's cool.
That every year puts out, a lot

1638
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,000
of talent, but you don't need
seven, guys.

1639
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,900
You just need that one guy that
fits your program.

1640
01:35:03,900 --> 01:35:06,900
That's also instead guy.
So, when they have another wire

1641
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:09,200
teller, they want to be part of
that Legacy.

1642
01:35:09,500 --> 01:35:11,700
No, I'm saying like Legacy,
believe it or not.

1643
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:14,200
It's still important to guys in
today's generation.

1644
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,200
They see what's going on leg.
These very important they want

1645
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,300
to be.
That's one reason why Ohio state

1646
01:35:20,500 --> 01:35:23,400
is always good.
Because there's a legacy and the

1647
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,400
culture there.
You want to be a part of believe

1648
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,400
it or not right now, Mike young
and you got to give Buzz

1649
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,800
Williams from credit to there's
a legacy.

1650
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,500
And there's the expectation with
the Virginia Tech basketball

1651
01:35:33,500 --> 01:35:35,600
program.
Now where we expect them to go

1652
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,500
to the tournament and now they
did not.

1653
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:41,300
They got that guy from DeMatha
it's going to be watch watch

1654
01:35:41,300 --> 01:35:47,400
watch that recruiting class.
We're on the verge of stealing

1655
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,000
one more kid in the like top
150.

1656
01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:52,500
And you talking about rice from
DeMatha.

1657
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,400
I mean, it's built.
Can I say something real quick?

1658
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,600
The white said I drop you son.
Will you young hockey fans out

1659
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,100
there?
When I say death road 95, JC

1660
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:06,000
prize Cornell brown, paint
Coleman, that was the defensive

1661
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,300
line that eight people, that
eight people.

1662
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,300
When I say, let's bring death,
only 22, that's what I'm think.

1663
01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:18,000
We're We'll see a lot of dogs on
that line.

1664
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:23,200
Yes.
Let me ask this, we see pride

1665
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,500
and man, the guys everywhere.
He's out, wishing the wrestling

1666
01:36:26,500 --> 01:36:29,400
team, good luck.
As they leave for Nationals,

1667
01:36:29,900 --> 01:36:31,600
he's out with the women's
basketball program.

1668
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:36,900
He's going to the games, he's at
restaurants in Blacksburg, he's

1669
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:40,800
making it known.
How do you like, the way in

1670
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,300
that?
It's not only the team but

1671
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:48,700
himself, and his staff are just
promoting Not only the school,

1672
01:36:48,700 --> 01:36:52,300
but just the community.
I mean, you know, you see them

1673
01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:54,800
going to someplace.
Like, you know, you talk about

1674
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,300
cheetah.
He goes up at what in the pka's

1675
01:36:57,300 --> 01:37:00,300
was a PK's, are Sharkey's.
Sharkey's, one turkeys.

1676
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,600
Yeah.
Aren't you talking?

1677
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,500
This is how I like my wings and
they make it four.

1678
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,400
How's that?
How's that?

1679
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:14,100
Come on like to you guys because
I just think it's just how I was

1680
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:16,000
supposed to be man.
I think if you're going to be

1681
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,600
somewhere like Virginia Tech's
my second home, I'm a 757 guy.

1682
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,200
Like I come from a very Urban
environment.

1683
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,400
Like, you know, I went to games,
whatever metal detectors, you

1684
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,200
know, I grew up with people that
sold drugs that, you know, I

1685
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:32,200
knew guys named a day and fruit
loop and guys named headache.

1686
01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:35,400
I mean, I went, you know, but I
love Southwest Virginia because

1687
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:41,300
of a genius Tech also to add to
that at the end of the day, I

1688
01:37:41,308 --> 01:37:43,800
think it goes back to to my
statement about 20 minutes ago

1689
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,600
about branding.
I think, you know, when you

1690
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,100
really care about your community
and your culture, it matters to

1691
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:51,600
you.
So your coaches stay late, they

1692
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,100
stay an hour, two hours late,
they stay up and make sure a

1693
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,600
mother knows her.
Son is taking care of it matters

1694
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,100
to them.
It's not like I didn't, I wasn't

1695
01:38:02,300 --> 01:38:06,300
living in Tech the last six
years but how many commercials

1696
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:08,500
that point they had how many
restaurants in the, you know how

1697
01:38:08,500 --> 01:38:09,800
many bars and grills?
They have?

1698
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,100
How many contracts we have with
deal?

1699
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:14,200
Ships.
How many guys said?

1700
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,600
Oh yeah, I talked to Coach
Fuente.

1701
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,900
I was up in lows and we had a
great conversation about this

1702
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:21,900
upcoming season.
How many people felt like, you

1703
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:24,700
know, they knew Brad cornelison?
You know how many people really

1704
01:38:24,700 --> 01:38:27,800
feel like they knew both
Davidson like those guys were

1705
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,700
there to coach and go home.
There was no connected, there

1706
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:35,300
was no social connectedness and
me.

1707
01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:38,400
How many guys did you know?
We're visiting hospitals and

1708
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,500
talking to kids at Children's
Hospital's, you know, like If

1709
01:38:42,500 --> 01:38:46,500
you're not a mess in the
community, it's just a job.

1710
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,600
And if it's a job, then it's
just a paycheck.

1711
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,500
And if it's just a paycheck, is
just something you going to do

1712
01:38:51,500 --> 01:38:54,600
to get your paycheck.
It doesn't matter to you, like

1713
01:38:54,900 --> 01:38:57,700
the best quote, which pissed me
off, almost to my TV through the

1714
01:38:57,708 --> 01:39:00,000
window.
Was we lost the Kentucky?

1715
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,300
Again, we should have won by 20
and they were like, sorry about

1716
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:07,500
your loss coach.
He said nobody died bro.

1717
01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:13,400
What you know, It's got its got
a matter.

1718
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:17,000
I mean it's a it's a bowl game
and yet but it's got to matter

1719
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,900
because when you do that, your
players see that your players,

1720
01:39:21,900 --> 01:39:24,400
see that?
All right, so, wewe just here to

1721
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,800
get swag and get the university.
A couple extra bones at the end

1722
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,700
of the year they were going
about our business Salman

1723
01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:31,900
gentlemen.
You understand right?

1724
01:39:31,900 --> 01:39:36,000
Be gentlemen, I lost the temple.
In 1998, we were 14th in the

1725
01:39:36,008 --> 01:39:39,400
nation.
Six teams ahead of us laws ESPN

1726
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,500
to this day and even Sports
Illustrated race.

1727
01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:44,200
It was one of In the biggest
upsets in college football,

1728
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:46,800
there's pictures of me in the
Collegiate times.

1729
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:50,300
I sat on the bench beside
Clemson, Clemson transfer Lamont

1730
01:39:50,300 --> 01:39:53,000
Piggies.
I even going to lock my

1731
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,300
Saturday, with tears, in my
eyes, we gave up and we were, we

1732
01:39:56,300 --> 01:40:01,500
were we were 35 Point favorites.
We were, we were up 17 and

1733
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:03,000
nothing.
We lost the game on homecoming.

1734
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,900
My senior year, that was in
1998.

1735
01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:10,500
And that still bothers me now.
That's 1998.

1736
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:13,300
It is 2022.
And that still bothers me?

1737
01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:16,800
Now we lost in North Carolina.
They should have been in the

1738
01:40:16,808 --> 01:40:18,100
Gator Bowl.
We should have been there.

1739
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:20,100
We were 7 and 4 S in the Big
East.

1740
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,800
They were 10 and 21, and they
got screwed because they target

1741
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,200
flowing.
Stay in Florida State, when the

1742
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:29,400
ACC and got the tiebreaker they
had 10 first and second round as

1743
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,400
every newsie, a cube on volume
holiday.

1744
01:40:31,500 --> 01:40:36,500
Dre blah.
Dion dire, they'd be a 42 23.

1745
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,600
And that was one of the lowest
points in my college career and

1746
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,100
I still remember that.
That was in 1997.

1747
01:40:43,700 --> 01:40:47,600
You think, Tyrod, Taylor doesn't
remember losing to Boise State

1748
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:51,200
and he just got paid.
Shout out the Tyrod Taylor but I

1749
01:40:51,208 --> 01:40:52,600
did it today.
Science.

1750
01:40:53,100 --> 01:41:33,100
Yeah, for my children.
That's what you have to have to

1751
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,600
win games.
And I think when you're to talk

1752
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,800
to the wrestling team and you're
going to the women's basketball

1753
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,800
to Kenny Brooks men and women's
basketball team and God, he is

1754
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,800
doing a great job.
Kenny Brooks man doing a great

1755
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,000
job, but when you go and show
love those same people are going

1756
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,300
to cheer for you and it creates
a culture.

1757
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:53,400
The family atmosphere, it was
there.

1758
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:58,200
When when Beamer was there and
Vani Vani was the female

1759
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,100
basketball coach, when the
Women's Basketball team was

1760
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:04,100
really, really good at good now,
but I mean, she was there and,

1761
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:06,800
you know, she, I think she's The
job in Purdue, whatever.

1762
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:10,900
But the point I'm getting at is
when it coaches are together and

1763
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:14,600
they all are buying in and the
wrestling team is like, damn.

1764
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,700
This guy just came to wish us
luck and the football team

1765
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:20,200
behind us.
It just creates a culture and

1766
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,500
then you start to see all the
programs when and they, you

1767
01:42:23,500 --> 01:42:26,600
know, that's that's you should
get in high school, right, and

1768
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:29,000
basketball.
Team is good, then, the track

1769
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,000
team is good and the football
team is good.

1770
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,000
And some of those guys play on
the other teams, it's like man

1771
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,800
said to such high school is
always good because there's a

1772
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,000
culture there, right?
The expectation, the foundation

1773
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:44,000
is an established and lay down.
So I love what he's about man,

1774
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,300
and I'm going to build a radio
show tomorrow morning, I'm on

1775
01:42:46,300 --> 01:42:49,300
after him on big tall and big
dog sports radio.

1776
01:42:49,300 --> 01:42:52,500
I'm on at 8:35 priors on there
before me.

1777
01:42:52,500 --> 01:42:57,100
So I'll get, I mean I won't be
on there with him, but I'll be

1778
01:42:57,100 --> 01:43:00,900
listening to him before.
I jump on I shout out big dog.

1779
01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:05,100
Talk radio, what Radford right?
Yeah, Big Dog Sports Radio.

1780
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,500
Hmm.
Yes, the white tomorrow at

1781
01:43:07,500 --> 01:43:08,800
eight, thirty five in the
morning.

1782
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,500
All right.
We'll say you know, the big

1783
01:43:13,500 --> 01:43:17,000
thing I know we talked about a
little bit Indians before you

1784
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,400
came on.
How pumped are you about these

1785
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,700
open practices coming back.
Long overdue, bro.

1786
01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:26,900
Long overdue.
I mean I used to go there I saw,

1787
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:29,800
I'm like I'm like Kurt, I got
kids that play sports.

1788
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:34,100
I got three children a daughter
who's a seeing you so I can't

1789
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:36,600
jump in the Whip and drive down
there anymore, drive up there,

1790
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,600
whatever.
But I mean just being able to go

1791
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,000
and no, I can go and you know,
Ben and I can come on the field

1792
01:43:44,300 --> 01:43:46,600
and be a part of that or
watching from the stands.

1793
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,100
That's how it's supposed to be
right?

1794
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:52,300
That's, I was so jealous of the
other teams that had that Like I

1795
01:43:52,308 --> 01:43:55,100
never understood what the secret
was about the discretion, when

1796
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:57,900
we were averaging 19 points per
game.

1797
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:00,300
I didn't understand like what
are you hiding?

1798
01:44:00,700 --> 01:44:02,900
I know what you're going to run
every down?

1799
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,500
I didn't understand.
I didn't understand it.

1800
01:44:06,500 --> 01:44:10,700
I didn't understand it because
like, I didn't even say it's

1801
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:14,000
football, don't make it out to
be trigonometry, man, like it's

1802
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,300
football.
So I didn't get to the secrecy,

1803
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:21,400
but I just think it just it's
all about just creating that

1804
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,000
culture.
I know, I know, I keep saying

1805
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,200
that word but I just feel like
that's what it's all about.

1806
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:34,400
I think it's a great move.
Nothing also to those kids,

1807
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:39,200
freshman's Juniors.
Sophomores who last year with

1808
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,100
that person experience at Lane
Stadium.

1809
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:43,300
It's like you want to encourage
like it's going to be like at

1810
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:46,900
one o'clock on a Saturday.
It's going to be Saturday, looks

1811
01:44:46,900 --> 01:44:51,700
to be like 75, go out there.
Go to go to a lot one.

1812
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:54,100
You don't get lot, one until you
get really rich.

1813
01:44:54,500 --> 01:44:59,800
Go to lot when you have a blast,
go in the stadium, and then you

1814
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,700
talk.
About with the kids.

1815
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,100
On the field, it's the energy
right?

1816
01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:08,500
You you see people showing up
want to watch you play and

1817
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:11,000
cheering you on.
Is that positive vibe?

1818
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,900
That just comes through like
this is what I came here for.

1819
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:20,900
Yeah, yeah, please Rock.
I came here to be supported in

1820
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,900
not only these kids but these
adults are coming out on

1821
01:45:23,900 --> 01:45:27,500
Saturday afternoon to just sit
and watch me practice and give

1822
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:33,000
their support and show their
love for me that do so. so far

1823
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:39,500
because when you are playing BC
in September, And maybe it's a

1824
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:43,800
tight game and, you know, it,
you're grinding to get to that

1825
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,000
last piece that you scrape your
knuckles to win the game.

1826
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,100
You look at the fans and you go
back to that day in March,

1827
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,000
right?
Remember them sitting there

1828
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,800
cheering us, I don't want to
lose because I want them to

1829
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,700
drive out the stadium.
Tonight is happy as they can be.

1830
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:04,900
Let's talk about this too.
I mean we got you know, we're

1831
01:46:04,900 --> 01:46:09,300
used to hosting those recruits.
Even on spring game, we got a

1832
01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:11,800
good number of recruits showing
up for this open, practice this

1833
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:15,400
weekend and I think that that's
going to be some of the, I think

1834
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,200
we will see some of the first
fireworks for the twenty.

1835
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,500
Three classes we can hopefully
will never let me, let me, let

1836
01:46:20,500 --> 01:46:22,800
me just add onto that.
Be identity day.

1837
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,600
I know you saw this podcast off,
you guys were talking about the

1838
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,300
great win over Duke and
Carolina.

1839
01:46:28,900 --> 01:46:34,000
You know, I get why everybody
hates Duke or you love them,

1840
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,500
mostly hate them and then same
thing with Carolina.

1841
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,600
But you know what they have they
have a lot of bandwagon fans and

1842
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,100
Virginia Tech used to have a lot
of bandwagon fans because we

1843
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:48,500
were Virginia's team like we
were the team, the football team

1844
01:46:48,500 --> 01:46:51,100
because we don't have a protein
so everybody was rocking with

1845
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,600
tech.
Even before Enter Sandman and

1846
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,700
all that it was like, oh you
ever been to a tech game and we

1847
01:46:56,700 --> 01:47:00,100
took over, if we took our FedEx
feel so like Tech had a lot of

1848
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,000
fans that don't have one credit
from Virginia Tech that just

1849
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:08,700
love Tech because like, you
know, Michael Vick and all these

1850
01:47:08,700 --> 01:47:10,900
other players that went there
Lisa.

1851
01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:16,200
So, my point being is part of
what makes your program, great,

1852
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:20,000
is the fact that you become such
a national brand, the fact that

1853
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,100
Duke is global the fact that
That people hate them because

1854
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:26,200
they win so much.
They're relevant, you get tired

1855
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,400
of everybody talking about how
great they are, but that's what

1856
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,900
you want for Tech Sports.
You want that for.

1857
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:35,400
I want bandwagon fans.
I want people to say, I hate

1858
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:36,400
Virginia Tech.
Why?

1859
01:47:36,500 --> 01:47:41,400
Because you guys always win, I
want that, I want that, I want

1860
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:44,100
reproofs the commit because of
the culture.

1861
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,600
You want open practices, you
want a big barbecue.

1862
01:47:47,900 --> 01:47:51,200
You want guys, in Chicago, where
the Virginia Tech hoodies you

1863
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,000
with that?
Nah man, but I saw them play

1864
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,400
against Nebraska.
They had that great wind.

1865
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,400
Danny Coale some dude, caught
the ball and tie rod.

1866
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,900
Now he's with the Giants.
You want conversations, like

1867
01:48:01,900 --> 01:48:04,300
that?
Yep, I love in the 90's and

1868
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:07,400
2000's when we had, you know,
people come to you.

1869
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,500
I don't like Tech.
They play nasty on D.

1870
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:18,100
Yeah, we supposed to that's what
we're about to open practices.

1871
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:23,600
I want to be relevant.
I hate Being irrelevant.

1872
01:48:23,700 --> 01:48:26,800
When like, I joked with no one
would want someone time.

1873
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,400
He was interviewing me for years
ago, and we were just talking

1874
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,000
because Norwood is from down my
way.

1875
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,200
He covered me in high school and
even some in college.

1876
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:39,700
And I said, no, I'm, you know,
what said he was doing the

1877
01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:43,800
preview for the UVA Tech game?
I said, man, outside of

1878
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,300
Blacksburg and Southwest
Virginia in Charlottesville.

1879
01:48:47,300 --> 01:48:50,900
Nobody cares about this game you
guys to five and six.

1880
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:58,200
Probably 16s playing on ESPN.
I said, I want us to be ranked

1881
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,100
and relevant, I miss, when we
were dark horse to win a

1882
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:04,200
National Championship, I know
the young fans don't realize

1883
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:08,000
this, but there were, there was
back in the day when Mark made

1884
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:12,300
and and Lou Holtz.
You Step Beyond College GameDay

1885
01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:16,500
and they would pick their Dark
Horses for national championship

1886
01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:18,500
teams.
So, they say, who you have, who

1887
01:49:18,500 --> 01:49:22,100
she look out for and they'd be
like, watch out for, Austin and

1888
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:25,400
I tell you what, watch out for
Virginia Tech and you'd be like,

1889
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,700
every year Tech was a dark
horse.

1890
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:31,900
Now it's, I can't believe Ohio
State lost to them.

1891
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:34,700
Yeah.
I don't like that.

1892
01:49:34,900 --> 01:49:38,000
It's embarrassing.
Now, we will talk horse to maybe

1893
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:44,500
when the coastal.
All right, so I mean yeah, I

1894
01:49:44,500 --> 01:49:46,100
didn't mean to go off on that,
man.

1895
01:49:51,500 --> 01:49:53,600
A chance to be relative with
recruits.

1896
01:49:53,900 --> 01:49:58,100
It makes us, it makes me feel
like, you know, we can get some

1897
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:01,100
the fact that prize personable
and has a personality.

1898
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,700
The fact that he cares and he's
not afraid to get emotional and

1899
01:50:04,700 --> 01:50:09,300
he's at, you know, he on the
call we had with the alumni.

1900
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:12,700
He was talking about the
Richmond coaching Clinic, how

1901
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:16,500
you VA coaches were there and
they just showed up and how Tech

1902
01:50:16,500 --> 01:50:20,000
coaches came and they had two
balloons and they had a table

1903
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:21,300
and they had the Commonwealth
cup.

1904
01:50:21,500 --> 01:50:24,200
There and all of that.
And people took notice like wow,

1905
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,200
these guys really can't wear the
UVA coaches came.

1906
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,700
They just had their clipboards
and planners, right?

1907
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,400
They weren't there.
Tech is day, gets it.

1908
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,100
It's the little things like
that, right?

1909
01:50:35,500 --> 01:50:37,400
Just so it's like if I came to
your house.

1910
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,200
Now, I know you're married and
your wife has a certain one.

1911
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,200
I go and stop by the grocery
store and make sure I get that

1912
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,400
wine for her.
You know I'm saying that's the

1913
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:49,200
respect, it's the respecting,
the coaches in your product.

1914
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,100
100%.
It's again, it's like a they

1915
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:56,000
have a strategy.
It isn't just showing don't do

1916
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,500
it.
Just it isn't just show up to

1917
01:50:58,500 --> 01:51:03,800
phoebius when they've got a high
for star or you know, or let's

1918
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:05,900
go on the 75.
It's a big year for them and

1919
01:51:05,907 --> 01:51:08,600
let's stay in Richmond.
It's like, no, our marketing

1920
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,800
strategy is this is our state,
and then, obviously, you've

1921
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,000
heard it.
And I'm sure you've heard it on

1922
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,400
the zoom calls with, you know,
your brethren there.

1923
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,300
The six hour, radius, if you can
drive to check, We want you, and

1924
01:51:21,300 --> 01:51:23,500
we start talking about that 6i
radius.

1925
01:51:23,900 --> 01:51:27,100
George has a name, South
Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio,

1926
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:34,000
Pennsylvania, the DMV.
I mean, that's a in and I always

1927
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,400
say in another, you can back me
up.

1928
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,800
A lot of people always think
those early teens.

1929
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,300
He was nothing but Virginia
kids, I'm a Virginia kids.

1930
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,700
That's what we got to always.
Do you know what George del rico

1931
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:51,600
here?
Some from South Carolina Those

1932
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,600
teams it was a lot of Virginia
kids you were one of them JC

1933
01:51:55,600 --> 01:52:03,200
price for mayor now is that
footprint it 93 we got good kids

1934
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,700
started coming from Maryland and
Pennsylvania, Kevin Jones?

1935
01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:12,800
It's like if we can get some
talented all, get to talent in

1936
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:17,200
Virginia.
Find the dogs, get the super

1937
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:18,500
talented.
Hi guys.

1938
01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:22,600
But then you start going down
and take a couple from Carolina,

1939
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:26,800
Georgia.
The next thing, you know, the

1940
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,900
footprints back and it's where
it was where these benefits and

1941
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:33,500
its balance the way it needs to
where you still got your

1942
01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:37,100
foundation in Virginia.
Yes, but but, but you're hitting

1943
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:41,200
the talent that works for what
you do and matches your culture

1944
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:45,000
from some of those other areas
in that footprint, what you're

1945
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,700
describing is what I said, you
know, a while back in this

1946
01:52:48,700 --> 01:52:52,200
episode Of be more left you, the
blueprint.

1947
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:56,800
All you had to do was build on
it because Maryland DC and

1948
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:01,100
people like that.
They there's a blueprint where

1949
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:04,200
they want to be a part of
because you know Virginia Tech

1950
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,300
is a great school to go to
because they're not going to go

1951
01:53:06,300 --> 01:53:11,300
to Maryland and many times
they're not going to go to UVA.

1952
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:12,800
Let's say where they want to go
to UB.

1953
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:14,800
I'm not taking shots of UV on
your show, I'm just saying that

1954
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:19,100
they needed a like, Virginia
Tech if they could just win and

1955
01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:21,400
Recruit the way they're doing,
you're going to get the right

1956
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:25,600
kids, and on top of it, I'm
always been a Virginia guy.

1957
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,400
But I've said numerous times on
Twitter, get back to getting to

1958
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,800
Florida, guys, get back to
getting those guys.

1959
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:37,600
The Lauren Johnson's the Philip
Summers Anthony midgets to the

1960
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,600
Brandon Flowers.
The what's the corner back?

1961
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,300
There was so smooth.
He had not interceptions one

1962
01:53:43,300 --> 01:53:45,000
year.
He went to the Giants.

1963
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,400
He j.r.
J.R on holds Leo.

1964
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,500
How ya?
Holdin Good news, guys.

1965
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:54,800
You got to get the daddy
Nicholas's and the Florida guys,

1966
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,700
man, you just gotta get him.
And those guys, those guys were

1967
01:53:57,700 --> 01:54:00,500
sick, Florida was great to
Virginia Tech and we just kind

1968
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:03,700
of stopped.
And I'm like, man, you know, and

1969
01:54:03,700 --> 01:54:07,200
South Carolina, has a rich
history and they love.

1970
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:12,200
They've done great.
They don't great job with what

1971
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:13,500
doing?
Well at Virginia Tech as you

1972
01:54:13,500 --> 01:54:17,200
mentioned and again, Maryland
always has Ballers.

1973
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,200
It's a basketball state at the
same.

1974
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,400
Time.
But a lot of football Talent is

1975
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:25,200
in Maryland, lot of football,
Talent absolutely.i.

1976
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,500
Couple more questions.
Because as usual to like this,

1977
01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:31,400
like last year when you jump on
with us, it's not an hour

1978
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:38,300
episode.
It's not 75 now.

1979
01:54:38,300 --> 01:54:50,200
We love it, love it.
Hi.

1980
01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:52,900
You're one.
What you measuring stick?

1981
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:57,800
What do you think?
You know field, not only on the

1982
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,700
field wins and losses but on the
recruiting Trail.

1983
01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:03,700
What's what are you looking for
pruning?

1984
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:06,300
I'm definitely confident.
I'm recruiting.

1985
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:09,200
I'm very happy about.
I feel like that's gonna really

1986
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,200
take off.
I feel like recruiting is going

1987
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:12,800
to be.
I think you guys can be like,

1988
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:16,000
wow, we actually got him not
maybe y'all too because y'all

1989
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,100
are pretty well in tune.
But, you know, someone in the

1990
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:22,400
cynics cynics and naysayers.
Sayers butt.

1991
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:27,000
The on the field.
I feel like we're going to have

1992
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:32,800
a solid season, I feel like a
solid season meaning, you know,

1993
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,700
it could be good, but we can
actually get some momentum and

1994
01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:38,200
take off.
There is not a team in the

1995
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:43,500
coastal, I would fear.
I respect everybody, Irish, I

1996
01:55:43,508 --> 01:55:47,200
never, you really won't hear
ever see me or hear me taking

1997
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:52,100
shots at UVA?
Because we always beat them, but

1998
01:55:52,300 --> 01:55:56,000
I feel like UVA bra Go was a
major laws, the timing wasn't

1999
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,100
great.
I like Elliott for them.

2000
01:55:59,500 --> 01:56:02,300
I know they bring back
Armstrong.

2001
01:56:02,300 --> 01:56:04,800
Who is a phenomenal talent.
I like him a lot.

2002
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:07,800
I just feel like they lost a lot
of weapons and I feel like when

2003
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,900
you go through a change like
that, that wasn't smooth, it was

2004
01:56:10,900 --> 01:56:12,900
kind of controversial.
I think they're going to be in

2005
01:56:12,907 --> 01:56:14,700
the mix.
They have a favorable schedule,

2006
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:18,100
but at the same time I like, I
like us against UVA.

2007
01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:20,700
I think Caroline's going to take
a step back.

2008
01:56:20,700 --> 01:56:24,400
I think they're not criticize
enough because They have a lot

2009
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,100
of talent and they've
underachieved, I don't care

2010
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:30,300
about what they lost.
Shout out to my guys, dad's new.

2011
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:34,500
Some that's family right there
for me, but dads and the other

2012
01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:37,000
guys in the running back, they
lost that was a huge loss for

2013
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:42,300
them but they still had a lot of
players and I feel like they get

2014
01:56:42,300 --> 01:56:46,100
a pass because it's Carolina but
they should have been better.

2015
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:48,800
And I think the quarterback they
lost Sam.

2016
01:56:49,300 --> 01:56:53,400
The I just I don't I don't I
don't know if you replace him

2017
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,300
over.
A dead cat guy was good.

2018
01:56:55,300 --> 01:56:58,400
He was really good with
quarterback play.

2019
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,000
If you have a great running game
around you and experience

2020
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:04,100
receive what you can overcome
that I'm not sure what Caroline

2021
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:06,600
is Tough Enough.
I'm not sure what Caroline is

2022
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:07,800
Tough Enough.
Yeah.

2023
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:11,700
I feel like, I feel like they
they look good.

2024
01:57:11,700 --> 01:57:13,900
I feel like they're pretty,
they're sexy but I think when

2025
01:57:13,900 --> 01:57:17,200
the game gets grimy and goody I
don't I don't trust him.

2026
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:21,800
Pittsburgh is Tough Enough and
we got to go up there so I don't

2027
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,300
trust us there yet.
Maybe Maybe one day, you know it

2028
01:57:25,300 --> 01:57:29,300
reminds me of how I was and how
we've been we go to Syracuse but

2029
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:32,900
I mean I don't have the schedule
in front of me but I feel like

2030
01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:34,500
the out of conference games are
winnable.

2031
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:36,700
I feel like we can get between
seven and eight wins.

2032
01:57:38,300 --> 01:57:40,100
Yep.
But I will say this.

2033
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:43,200
I think the ceiling you when you
guys you guys gamble over and

2034
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,300
under I think we can go over I
just got to make sure I

2035
01:57:46,300 --> 01:57:48,400
quarterback playing that's the
key.

2036
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,300
I think running game and the old
lines going to be good enough to

2037
01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:53,400
win.
We got to get a quarterback.

2038
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,300
I Was named bromine stir.
He was tough right?

2039
01:57:57,300 --> 01:57:59,600
He was tough.
He played hard.

2040
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,700
He I mean he looked like he was
out there getting hit like

2041
01:58:01,700 --> 01:58:06,200
Raggedy Ann and Andy, I mean it
wasn't okay, just snuck around

2042
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:09,600
to me and yeah, I had a lot of
respect for that kid man.

2043
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,000
I thought he played his his tail
off against UVA.

2044
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:17,600
I feel like he competed, I used
to look at him but I felt like

2045
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,900
he was putting some very
difficult situations.

2046
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:23,000
Have a lot of respect for him.
I hope he hears this or somebody

2047
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,200
tells him.
And I just appreciate what he

2048
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,100
did for Virginia Tech because I
felt like he was putting some

2049
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:31,100
really difficult situations
schematically.

2050
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:35,000
And I felt like, at times, they
didn't utilize him, the way he

2051
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:38,200
should have been utilized, he's
not a do pastor this that,

2052
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,300
whatever, but he plays that
University, he played hard and

2053
01:58:42,300 --> 01:58:44,800
the two years he was at Tech,
but if we got to get a

2054
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,700
quarterback, we got to get a
quarterback.

2055
01:58:46,700 --> 01:58:50,400
We've left too many too many
good quarterbacks that we can

2056
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:51,900
win with go.
We can get the quarterback

2057
01:58:51,900 --> 01:58:54,800
position solidified.
I'll tell you this defense is

2058
01:58:54,808 --> 01:58:56,700
going to be physical.
The difference is going to play,

2059
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:02,500
but I mean again Miami is Miami.
Virginia Tech will always play

2060
01:59:02,500 --> 01:59:04,600
Miami tough because of the
history of the Rivalry.

2061
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:08,100
So that's a, that's a Pick'em.
But the rest of the coastal, I

2062
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:11,300
mean, you're in a good position
because it's anybody's Division

2063
01:59:11,300 --> 01:59:13,200
and win.
I don't really care for that

2064
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:17,200
whole, you know, that little
will they have on ESPN The Wheel

2065
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,100
of Destiny, and they spend the
wheel, and I think that's corny.

2066
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,300
I like it when a team dominates,
I hope it's us.

2067
01:59:23,300 --> 01:59:25,600
I Eat that whole guess who
wanted this year?

2068
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:29,100
I hate that.
I think it's stupid and corny.

2069
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:31,300
But, you know, you got to give
you a ship, you got to get stuff

2070
01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:33,100
that's going on so people can
talk about it.

2071
01:59:33,700 --> 01:59:36,200
I think Tech can win it.
This is a good time for pride

2072
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,200
and staff because everybody is
kind of in transition, the

2073
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,800
Coastal Carolina, lost the
quarterback.

2074
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:45,600
Miami is they got a new, you
know, trying to figure it out.

2075
01:59:45,700 --> 01:59:48,100
They got talent but Miami is
always going to have town.

2076
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:53,800
Oh always always, you talked
about 10, they lost their That

2077
01:59:53,800 --> 02:00:00,500
they lost their oh shit.
No.

2078
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:20,600
They were set back decades with
that offense is going to take

2079
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,300
see if that's a program.
You asked me on your show that's

2080
02:00:23,300 --> 02:00:26,000
the program is going to take a
long time to rebuild because

2081
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:29,700
Georgia Tech Was in that triple
option.

2082
02:00:29,700 --> 02:00:34,200
Paul Johnson for years, their
program was built on undersized

2083
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:37,500
lineman and it was a very
prehistoric Antiquated offense.

2084
02:00:37,500 --> 02:00:40,400
It work for them, but you got to
get a coach plus, that's a tough

2085
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,800
place to recruit to, because
Georgia runs that state.

2086
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,300
So we record against Georgia,
and Alabama.

2087
02:00:47,900 --> 02:00:58,700
And I reckon, yeah, you.
And it's just This is not back

2088
02:00:58,700 --> 02:01:00,800
in the day when they had Patrick
swimming.

2089
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,600
So with all that being said,
like you mentioned, Duke is

2090
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,000
terrible.
God bless them.

2091
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,500
You know cutcliffe did a great
job but it's just tough to win

2092
02:01:08,500 --> 02:01:11,200
there and I felt like they kind
of let him stay a little bit too

2093
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:15,500
long teca catch.
If they can catch fire if they

2094
02:01:15,500 --> 02:01:18,200
if they come out and set the
tone again, Saudi I know ODU is

2095
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:21,100
not the measuring stick.
What I'm saying is I've been in

2096
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:22,400
and I've been in the game a long
time.

2097
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,000
I've been around the game a long
time, A lot of times just your

2098
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,100
mentality, and if your play is
believed in by in, Good

2099
02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:30,700
quarterback play.
And I don't mean they need a guy

2100
02:01:30,700 --> 02:01:33,700
like tie rod or Jim drunken
religious.

2101
02:01:33,700 --> 02:01:36,500
Basically somebody that can
manage the game, not turn the

2102
02:01:36,500 --> 02:01:39,900
ball over and play good offense
and have an identity.

2103
02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:45,300
They can win the coastal.
I know that sounds crazy, but I

2104
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:48,200
just you guys, you would have to
show me a team.

2105
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,700
I'm supposed to be afraid of and
the coastal.

2106
02:01:50,900 --> 02:01:54,600
Yeah, now I will say this
respect to UVA, they have a

2107
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:58,100
quarterback.
They do Armstrong can Play.

2108
02:01:58,300 --> 02:02:02,800
But, at the same time, you know,
they lost some very good players

2109
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:06,000
in the portal, and they also
lost a lot of players to the

2110
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:11,200
graduation, and also to the NFL,
and that's so, very was awful.

2111
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:19,400
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh, and and I'll say, this is a

2112
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:27,700
hokie podcast.
But I felt like, That was Bronco

2113
02:02:27,700 --> 02:02:31,000
was a big loss.
I just feel like that was a big

2114
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,800
loss.
I feel like Elias a good coach

2115
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,500
and he can win there but he's
got established himself as a

2116
02:02:35,500 --> 02:02:37,600
head coach.
He was an assistant at Clemson

2117
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,500
the same way prize got to do the
same thing, but I just feel

2118
02:02:40,500 --> 02:02:44,200
like, you know, when you come in
the way it came in and he had

2119
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,600
you know like I think they're
going to win some games with him

2120
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:50,800
but I just feel like You know, I
told this to my guy, my talk is

2121
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:53,000
if I was Armstrong, I would have
left.

2122
02:02:53,300 --> 02:02:56,700
I thought he I would have left
the numbers.

2123
02:02:56,700 --> 02:03:00,100
He put up the records, he broke.
You just don't do that

2124
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:02,800
consecutive years.
It's tough.

2125
02:03:03,500 --> 02:03:06,700
There's more film on you, you
know, you pretty much got his

2126
02:03:06,700 --> 02:03:10,700
team, the old, the old line.
You know, we talked about that.

2127
02:03:10,700 --> 02:03:14,400
So it's going to be, it's going
to be a fun, fun fall.

2128
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:16,000
I can't.
When you guys got me in football

2129
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:18,100
mode right now, even though it's
March Madness, Right, that's

2130
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:21,100
right, that's right.
That's like, you know,

2131
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:08,700
I wasn't driving three and a
half hours to see us, put up 22

2132
02:04:08,700 --> 02:04:11,900
points against a team from, you
know, Wyoming.

2133
02:04:11,900 --> 02:04:19,900
I just I just was, I felt you
know, man like Your boy man was

2134
02:04:19,900 --> 02:04:22,000
taken away.
Something I love and I love

2135
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:24,300
like, I love my family.
Like you can't mess with my

2136
02:04:24,300 --> 02:04:27,500
school, you can't mess with.
It's my favorite team and like I

2137
02:04:27,508 --> 02:04:29,700
don't have a favorite NFL NBA
team.

2138
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:35,000
So like, you know when when Tech
wins man, like the sun shines

2139
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,400
brighter man is fresher.
You know, the food taste better.

2140
02:04:38,700 --> 02:04:40,500
You know, I mean like everything
is better.

2141
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:44,800
I get to get to throw this on, I
walk with my chest out, I'm

2142
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,000
going everywhere.
Like oh yeah, you saw the game,

2143
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:51,300
go home.
You don't say it like Like I, I

2144
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:53,800
will be back.
Now, it's easy for me.

2145
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,400
I hear people say, man.
We don't play any, I don't even

2146
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:57,700
kid.
We could be playing Centerville

2147
02:04:57,700 --> 02:05:00,600
jumping jacks, Jerusalem,
Jerusalem.

2148
02:05:00,900 --> 02:05:03,500
We can be playing the Jerusalem,
Nighthawks, it doesn't matter,

2149
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:07,100
II.
Go for the experience, I go to

2150
02:05:07,100 --> 02:05:11,600
the as a bookstore to get me a
new key chain, that had some

2151
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:15,500
tech gear.
I go to see fans go crazy and

2152
02:05:15,500 --> 02:05:17,700
cuss curse their ref out, you
know?

2153
02:05:17,700 --> 02:05:22,100
So like If the experience, I
didn't want to go back my last

2154
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:27,100
egg, a, my last text game.
I sat in a rainstorm with my

2155
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:31,100
wife and kids on New Year's Eve,
and I wash us.

2156
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:34,100
Choke against Cincinnati.
Again, we in the Cincinnati was

2157
02:05:34,100 --> 02:05:36,900
really good to you.
They were attending when team,

2158
02:05:36,900 --> 02:05:40,200
they had a bunch of
upperclassmen and we were out

2159
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:44,200
playing them.
We were, we were down there, and

2160
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:47,600
we had just got a turnover and
we fumbled on the goal line,

2161
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,200
they came back Back and went and
the tech team played hard but I

2162
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:54,200
sat there.
My underwear was soaked, my

2163
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:57,400
socks was so my youngest
daughter was mad.

2164
02:05:57,400 --> 02:06:00,100
We had on Pancho's.
My glad I wear glasses.

2165
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,800
I didn't have any windshield
wiper, so I was just taking my

2166
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,400
glasses off and wiping them and
I sat there, as I went back to

2167
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,300
my vehicle with a bunch of
disgruntled and dejected tech

2168
02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:11,700
fans.
And I look at my wife and I

2169
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:14,200
said, I am done.
She said, what do you mean?

2170
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:16,200
I said I will never go back to a
game.

2171
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:19,900
Again, I can't do this.
I can't My New Year's I'm

2172
02:06:19,900 --> 02:06:23,200
ruined.
I can't do this to myself, I

2173
02:06:23,208 --> 02:06:28,200
can't drive and get excited and
get my expectations in my hopes

2174
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,000
up to see us.
Give away games to sit in these

2175
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:34,000
conditions.
I got to make better use of my

2176
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,900
time and money and I wasn't mad
at the Players because their

2177
02:06:37,900 --> 02:06:39,100
players, I don't do that I
played.

2178
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:41,800
So I know what, you know what
that means to them, but I felt

2179
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,600
like we weren't going anywhere.
We were going and it was the

2180
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:48,000
same old thing, wait till next
year and we got these guys

2181
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:48,700
coming.
Back.

2182
02:06:48,700 --> 02:06:52,700
I was like bro it's the Same
Song & Dance so I wasn't going

2183
02:06:52,700 --> 02:06:55,700
to see us play Notre Dame.
I did watch it on my phone I

2184
02:06:55,700 --> 02:06:58,700
thought we wouldn't win that
game and then all of a sudden

2185
02:06:59,500 --> 02:07:01,500
we're up nine and we give that
game away.

2186
02:07:01,900 --> 02:07:05,000
I remember the pick-6 I was like
we're going to win the game.

2187
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:08,300
We're going to beat the Fighting
Irish in the primetime game and

2188
02:07:08,300 --> 02:07:11,700
we gave it away and I said to
him, I said, this is why I

2189
02:07:11,700 --> 02:07:13,500
didn't go.
I said, look at it.

2190
02:07:13,500 --> 02:07:16,700
Look at them because there was a
guy.

2191
02:07:16,700 --> 02:07:19,000
I wish I could meet him.
There was A man.

2192
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,500
We will play in Boston College
and we will be they were ranked

2193
02:07:23,500 --> 02:07:27,300
number two in the country.
We were top seven, it was the

2194
02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:31,500
tie rod Sean, Glennon game.
When tie rod had the ankle

2195
02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:35,600
sprain, the catch any Royal had
met Ryan came back.

2196
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:39,200
We lost 14 to 10, right?
It was raining.

2197
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:40,500
Right?
Was a Thursday night game, we

2198
02:07:40,500 --> 02:07:42,600
win that game, we jump into the
top two.

2199
02:07:42,700 --> 02:07:45,800
We lost ugly to LSU but we're in
the time to we play for a

2200
02:07:45,808 --> 02:07:48,400
national championship.
We finish the regular season

2201
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:49,500
fifth in the nation at you.
Year.

2202
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:54,400
Yes, we did.
And if we beat them we go but

2203
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,600
there was a man, I'm on the
phone, talking to one of my one

2204
02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,100
of my best friend's Tyrone
times.

2205
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:02,600
We went to Virginia Tech and
we're venting, you know, and I'm

2206
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:05,500
just going off and we're talking
about what we didn't do wrong,

2207
02:08:05,500 --> 02:08:09,100
how he looked into nothing and
we did that quick kick and how

2208
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:13,200
Josh Morgan fumbled, the onside
kick and we just replaying the

2209
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:16,800
game and I remember he was at
the game, he was talking to me

2210
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,200
in the parking lot in his car
and my mother.

2211
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:23,700
Talking to my look and ESPN.
I record the games on my DVR

2212
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:28,300
ESPN shows a tech fan, and he's
sitting there.

2213
02:08:28,300 --> 02:08:31,600
And so it's a guy and he has a
hoodie on.

2214
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,800
He's just sitting like this.
He's the only guy in the stadium

2215
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,900
and I paused it.
And I said that is what being a

2216
02:08:40,907 --> 02:08:43,400
tech fan is like, we are so
close.

2217
02:08:43,900 --> 02:08:48,400
I am so tired of being, he was
so dejected, that's what I felt

2218
02:08:48,900 --> 02:08:51,500
after.
The Notre Dame game after the

2219
02:08:51,500 --> 02:08:54,700
pit game, when Kevin Jones went
for 500 yards rushing and we

2220
02:08:54,708 --> 02:08:58,600
lost because Larry Fitzgerald
scored in the second half and

2221
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:01,900
DeAngelo Hall was benched in the
first half, that's what it felt

2222
02:09:01,900 --> 02:09:07,000
like when we had a game 1
against Boise State and we

2223
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:09,900
settle for a field goal, and
they come down and March down.

2224
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:14,200
That's what it felt like we had
USC, Bilby, and they call a

2225
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:16,400
phantom offensive pass
interference.

2226
02:09:16,700 --> 02:09:18,900
That's what it felt like when we
lost to Kansas.

2227
02:09:19,300 --> 02:09:21,600
In to leave whatever picked off
tie rod.

2228
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:24,300
Because everybody knew when he
came in, he was going throw the

2229
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:28,500
certain route, he picks it off,
we lose they Kansas on the fake,

2230
02:09:28,500 --> 02:09:31,500
punch those memories.
He said, I can spit those

2231
02:09:31,500 --> 02:09:37,700
memories all yep.
That's why that's why I stopped

2232
02:09:37,700 --> 02:09:43,100
going because the rides back and
the conversation I was having

2233
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:47,900
with myself.
They weren't, they weren't

2234
02:09:47,900 --> 02:09:50,400
healthy.
They weren't healthy.

2235
02:09:50,900 --> 02:09:54,600
So that doesn't mean I don't
love my school on my program.

2236
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:56,800
It's just that I want to get
over the hump.

2237
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,300
I want the confetti.
I want.

2238
02:10:00,300 --> 02:10:02,600
What happened last Saturday
night to happened?

2239
02:10:03,300 --> 02:10:06,700
Yes, again, and again.
But for a bigger game.

2240
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:10,300
Yep, I want that ship.
I tell you, man.

2241
02:10:10,300 --> 02:10:12,500
I got my tech, helmet
downstairs, in my man cave, in

2242
02:10:12,500 --> 02:10:14,700
my basement.
I'm going to go.

2243
02:10:14,700 --> 02:10:16,100
I'm going to drive around the
hole.

2244
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,000
Day.
And with that helmet on I'm

2245
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,300
running.
I'm weak, I'm going to go

2246
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:24,700
around.
I mean I may be like Terry Tate

2247
02:10:24,700 --> 02:10:27,200
whatever his name was with the
shoulder pads on the crazy line

2248
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:34,900
back to me but I don't I don't I
don't see your listeners and

2249
02:10:34,900 --> 02:10:37,900
viewers.
I'm not mocking those losses

2250
02:10:38,500 --> 02:10:41,800
just to be clear.
They are still painful because

2251
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:47,100
you sit there and you get you
you get like I'm going to do it.

2252
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:50,600
Last memory, I'm sitting in the
national championship game, I'm

2253
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:52,100
a year removed from Virginia
Tech.

2254
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:57,100
It's 1999 when the sugar, when
the Sugar Bowl playing Florida

2255
02:10:57,100 --> 02:11:03,800
State, And my girlfriend.
Now, my wife Shanice is sitting

2256
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:09,700
beside me, and we're up in the
fourth quarter, 29 and 28, 29

2257
02:11:09,700 --> 02:11:14,600
and 28, and I'm looking around.
I'm looking around.

2258
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:20,300
And tech fans can feel it.
And I get emotional thinking

2259
02:11:20,300 --> 02:11:24,300
about it and I'm looking around,
I'm like we're up and I look at

2260
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:28,400
my wife, you know, my girlfriend
at the time and she's shaking, I

2261
02:11:28,407 --> 02:11:31,200
said you all right.
She's like we're about to win a

2262
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,400
National Championship.
I said, we don't jinx it.

2263
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,000
She's like, I can't believe
we're up because we were down,

2264
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:41,300
we came back.
Yeah, and it was so loud and I

2265
02:11:41,300 --> 02:11:44,500
look and then all of a sudden
fall estate snatched her from

2266
02:11:44,500 --> 02:11:45,700
us.
And I remember sitting, Sitting

2267
02:11:45,700 --> 02:11:50,500
there, I remember sitting there
and the crowd cleared out and I

2268
02:11:50,508 --> 02:11:54,000
was just sitting there with her
just I couldn't move, I couldn't

2269
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,800
move, I couldn't move like that
guy.

2270
02:11:56,900 --> 02:11:58,700
That was at the Boston College
game.

2271
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:02,300
I couldn't move because it hurt
me to my core.

2272
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:05,900
It felt like somebody told me.
Hey man, you're not going to

2273
02:12:05,900 --> 02:12:09,700
live tomorrow Heroes and like he
hurt me.

2274
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:14,600
So I want to see this year to
have a successful season.

2275
02:12:14,900 --> 02:12:17,600
I don't do Over under.
I don't do the, you know, we're

2276
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:22,100
going to be 6 & 6.
We, I don't know I like our

2277
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,200
chances in a lot of games
because I don't think the

2278
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:27,200
coastal was that good and I
think the ACC is open.

2279
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:29,300
I think Clemson is still
recovering from losing a

2280
02:12:29,308 --> 02:12:31,800
once-in-a-lifetime generational
Talent with Trevor Lawrence.

2281
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:33,600
Yeah.
So, I feel like right now, the

2282
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:38,400
acc's wide open one team is
going to step up, there's a team

2283
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,800
right now, that's going to step
up, it could be wake, it could

2284
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:45,200
be Tech, it can be Miami.
But somebody's Florida State.

2285
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:48,100
It can Maybe somebody, but I
wanted to be us, I'm going to be

2286
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:50,800
selfish.
I feel like it is a fanbase do

2287
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:53,400
all that suffering.
I just reflected on your show

2288
02:12:53,900 --> 02:12:57,000
and I can keep going.
If there's somebody there

2289
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:00,700
somebody that's do, where do we
are?

2290
02:13:00,700 --> 02:13:04,200
Do we have been through it all?
I mean, come on man.

2291
02:13:04,500 --> 02:13:08,100
I mean not like the Cowboy fans
that you know, that's where I'm

2292
02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:10,100
not talk.
I'm not, you know, they feel

2293
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:14,500
like they do they had Talent
that's a deeper issue to me.

2294
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:20,200
We Do I just hope we can?
I know I'm long, I'm rambling

2295
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:23,000
but I just you guys give me
going because it just gets to a

2296
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:26,500
point where I want you guys
understand how much it means to

2297
02:13:26,500 --> 02:13:27,500
me.
I don't want to sound like it's

2298
02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:29,900
an addiction or sickening, it's
just more.

2299
02:13:29,900 --> 02:13:37,200
So it matters right?
It's past matter is passion and

2300
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:41,400
I think for I think the
listeners LeBar Cooper shout-out

2301
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:43,200
from Facebook.
Said he remembered every game

2302
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:47,400
you were talking about is
passion and it's being there and

2303
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:50,200
being fans, or being players are
being alumni for.

2304
02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:55,100
So long, memories are ingrained
in the the loss is always you

2305
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:57,000
remember, quicker.
You always hurt more.

2306
02:13:57,100 --> 02:14:02,900
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Well, I never forget Morgan Town

2307
02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:04,800
in America?
No, no.

2308
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:06,600
Well, I prefer getting tie, rods
Miracle.

2309
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:10,500
No.
But like you said about 99 me

2310
02:14:10,500 --> 02:14:12,600
and Brian, I was a junior.
He was a sophomore in high

2311
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:16,100
school.
That third quarter and what Mike

2312
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:23,100
did in that team did, That still
is it's like you show that to

2313
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:28,000
one person and if they never
heard of Michael Vick that

2314
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:30,000
shorter will tell them
everything they need to know.

2315
02:14:31,300 --> 02:14:34,800
And then in the years go by and
you know we've been there for

2316
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:37,800
heartbreak in should have won
that game and you're right.

2317
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:41,600
We are due.
And we were going to stay in

2318
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:47,700
touch because hopefully Brian
can get you a spring game but we

2319
02:14:47,700 --> 02:14:50,000
will stay in touch.
So we know Oh, you're going down

2320
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:52,700
for the game.
I will try everything in my

2321
02:14:52,700 --> 02:14:54,500
power to make sure I can get
down.

2322
02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:56,300
I'll call my mom.
Be like, Mom.

2323
02:14:56,300 --> 02:14:57,400
I need you come up for the
weekend?

2324
02:14:59,700 --> 02:15:05,200
Yeah, man.
Yeah, you know?

2325
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:34,700
We won that game and they come
back.

2326
02:15:34,700 --> 02:15:37,000
We want, you know, you're not a
sports bar and I'm reluctant to

2327
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:39,300
go to sports bar because people
say dumb stuff.

2328
02:15:39,500 --> 02:15:40,900
Yes, I just don't like being
around.

2329
02:15:40,900 --> 02:15:43,500
I don't like being around.
I'll look and I'm like, I gotta

2330
02:15:43,500 --> 02:15:47,500
go, I can't be around, but that
day we came back.

2331
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,900
I remember, I just the rest of
the weekend, like, I talked to

2332
02:15:50,900 --> 02:15:54,300
my dad, he was like, we just won
the phone and it was just like

2333
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:58,100
what a crazy game and I was
like, Tech just beat Nebraska

2334
02:15:58,100 --> 02:16:03,600
and they beat Miami. 31 is 7 and
we going to Run a table and I

2335
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:06,700
felt like so excited.
But you know, that's what it's

2336
02:16:06,700 --> 02:16:08,700
about, those big wins.
Those moments.

2337
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,100
It's just like a great Christmas
with your family, a great

2338
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:14,100
Thanksgiving meal with your
grandmother.

2339
02:16:14,300 --> 02:16:16,800
It's like, man.
That's the time me Curtis and

2340
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:19,300
Bryan hung out.
And we took the shots and then

2341
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:23,400
we beat Georgia Tech, 35 to 17
and we posted some pictures on

2342
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:26,700
Instagram and dare forever,
right?

2343
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:29,400
Yes.
You don't saying so I want more

2344
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:32,799
the like, like Saturday night,
man, like me and my wife, Just

2345
02:16:32,799 --> 02:16:36,000
up we were tweeting and
retweeting and texting and

2346
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:39,400
Facebook was jumping and we were
like, yo, this is the best.

2347
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:44,600
It's, you know, it's old it is,
I wish everyone can experience

2348
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:47,299
them and that's what makes us.
I think we got the best fan base

2349
02:16:47,299 --> 02:16:50,500
in the country, and I feel like
Pride knows that and when we

2350
02:16:50,500 --> 02:16:53,799
start winning, man, it's gonna
be on especially with the

2351
02:16:53,799 --> 02:16:57,400
Twitter we take over Twitter.
So, you know, we might shut the

2352
02:16:57,407 --> 02:17:00,900
internet down brother.
That's right, I love how after

2353
02:17:00,900 --> 02:17:04,299
basketball victories.
We get It in the the final score

2354
02:17:04,299 --> 02:17:07,700
of the opponent, just getting
the mentions and just tearing

2355
02:17:07,700 --> 02:17:09,000
up.
Yeah.

2356
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:09,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

2357
02:17:09,700 --> 02:17:11,000
Yeah.
Lovely man.

2358
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:12,500
Yeah.
Lovely lovely.

2359
02:17:12,500 --> 02:17:18,200
Lovely.
Yes, as usual, it's nothing but

2360
02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:19,900
a blast.
When you're with us we go down

2361
02:17:19,900 --> 02:17:22,100
memory lane.
We talk about the past, the

2362
02:17:22,100 --> 02:17:27,299
present, the future, your
memories, your inside your

2363
02:17:27,299 --> 02:17:30,100
intelligence.
Thank you for joining us again.

2364
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:32,000
In.
You know, we're going to have

2365
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:34,700
you back.
I mean, I feel like, now, it's

2366
02:17:34,700 --> 02:17:41,400
official that the week of March
Madness, It's big Madness on the

2367
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,600
boundary Corner podcast like
buckle up.

2368
02:17:44,700 --> 02:17:47,299
It ain't going to be if we're
gonna be here for a two hour and

2369
02:17:47,299 --> 02:17:53,400
20 minute ride of Tet,
Everything with a lot of

2370
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:57,000
passion, a lot of soul, lot of
funny stories, a lot of smiles,

2371
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:02,200
a lot of shaking of our heads,
but we could we're in a new era.

2372
02:18:02,200 --> 02:18:06,500
Now with someone who has hokey
and maroon and his blood and

2373
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:13,000
Kirsten Prelude and JC and a DVD
in you know gouveia Winslow a

2374
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:18,000
lot of Hokies blood in this
staff and I can't wait Ryan

2375
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:20,100
Dwight anything else before we
wrap up guys.

2376
02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:23,400
I really just want to say thank
you here for for Dwight for

2377
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:25,100
jumping on.
It's always a pleasure.

2378
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:28,900
Always look forward to having
you on always look forward to

2379
02:18:28,900 --> 02:18:30,900
seeing what you got to say on
the timeline always looking

2380
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:34,500
forward to you know, the Tweets
in the Insight that you bring to

2381
02:18:34,500 --> 02:18:38,100
the game.
So as usual ambassador of Hokie

2382
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:41,500
Nation right here, Dwight Vic.
That's going to thank you both

2383
02:18:41,500 --> 02:18:42,500
man.
I just want to thank you both.

2384
02:18:42,500 --> 02:18:46,200
I'm big fancy you both man.
I never take an interview an

2385
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,700
opportunity to share my truth
and insight for granted.

2386
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:51,500
God bless you both men.
Keep The great work, I checked

2387
02:18:51,500 --> 02:18:53,600
for your stuff, I always
listened specially during the

2388
02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:56,000
season.
You guys give great Insight your

2389
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:58,600
head in the game.
There's enough people out here

2390
02:18:58,600 --> 02:19:00,500
that appreciate everything.
We're all doing man.

2391
02:19:00,500 --> 02:19:03,200
We're in this together, man,
again, whatever I can do to

2392
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:05,799
support you, guys.
I'll keep you both in prayer.

2393
02:19:06,200 --> 02:19:07,900
Shout out to your families, your
fans.

2394
02:19:07,900 --> 02:19:09,700
Your support has meant.
Thank you again, man.

2395
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:11,900
All right, I appreciate y'all,
man.

2396
02:19:12,299 --> 02:19:15,299
Same to you and your family and
everything, to why we really

2397
02:19:15,299 --> 02:19:17,000
appreciate.
And that's going to wrap up this

2398
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,299
episode of The Boundary Corner
podcast with the white Vic.

2399
02:19:20,500 --> 02:19:22,900
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

2400
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:26,900
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2401
02:19:26,900 --> 02:19:29,600
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2402
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