Alpha Dogs 2023

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner.

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Brian, Sigler, I am Curtis
Wilson and this episode is

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Curtis and Brian sent you buddy.
We are back after a three-week

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iatest.
I swear did not take me three

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weeks to work off that hangover.
You sure, I swear half.

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Happy New Year.
First of all, man.

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Yeah.
Eight, you know what, you do?

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You go out with a bang every
year, right?

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Yeah, that goes know,
definitely, that was definitely

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a bank.
You go out, we go out with a

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bang every year with that
episode.

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It's a lot of fun, you get to
unload a lot of grievances.

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You get to say things.
Normally we not say things, we

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may not do but, you know, shout
out.

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Tally and Jeremy for coming on.
It was a blast, if you have

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Listen to that episode, please.
Please do go back and listen to

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that because it was an
entertaining, two hours if you

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watch to live, which a lot of
people did, like, Levar joined

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us in here that night.
It was a lot of fun, man.

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Now, one brief caveat before we
get going tonight.

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I buddy, Robbie company was
going to join us, is not able to

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Wifey a little under the
weather.

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Whether he's having to do some
doctrinal her tonight.

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Yeah.
Yeah we got the word about two

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hours ago.
We were like hey you know, we're

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flexible.
It is what it is.

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We got something that's coming
down the pike, where Robbie's

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going to be able to join us at
another time.

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We'll probably Loop in some of
the afca stuff.

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Yeah, that we were going to chat
with him about tonight when he

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comes on then.
So looking forward to that.

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But we still got a nice little
episode playing for you guys

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tonight.
We always, we always do.

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We always do Prime, I noticed
you got a few new things.

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In the background there, got the
got rid of that clock, messy.

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I got rid of the clock, got a
little little VT emblem.

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There's so changing it up a
little bit.

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Yeah, courtesy of the in-laws.
So, shout-out in-laws for the

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Christmas gift, shout-out
in-laws, very nice, the litho

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finally got hung, hey, what?
The graph of Lane Stadium

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finally got hung, where did you
shift the other stuff behind

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there.
All right.

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So, well, first of all, All the
Virginia Tech map of Virginia is

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now directly behind me.
The guitar painting is now over

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here, over next to the guitar,
the gulf is over there.

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You know, my wife's already been
criticizing me out the way.

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I put everything up and she's
like, it doesn't look right.

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Okay, I think what's gonna
happen.

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I'm gonna take a nap one
afternoon.

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And she's going to come in here,
rearranged everything and I'm

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probably won't care.
Either way.

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But yeah.
But we do have a lot of, we have

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some things to unload tonight.
I'm kind of a big Topic at the

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end of the evening.
We're going to be discussing is

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through new Alpha Dogs, for the
hope you.

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We have a lot of guys, a lot of
5th and 6th.

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Year seniors leaving the program
after this season, and there's

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quite a few holes to fill.
And, you know, we're going to

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talk about that after the break.
But Brian, let's go ahead and

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hit it off of the bat here, and
let's talk about the Her portal

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because there's been some action
with the Hokies over the past

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roughly week here, and it's not
all good news.

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Let's start with the bad news
because, you know, I'm going to

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be real.
It came down Thursday night,

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Darian.
Varner had decommitted from the

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Hokies and committed to the
Wisconsin.

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Badgers, I'm still kind of
pissed about this one.

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I don't know about you.
It sounds like the staff was a

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little heated as well based on
everything that was made public

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on the timeline.
And from the words of well, at

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least a quote, from, from Varner
himself.

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And I mean, I get it, the
situation, definitely, you know,

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you commit.
And we're almost three weeks

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down the road silently lick.
Yeah, literally about literally

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about to enroll.
And all of a sudden, you know,

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some new information comes down,
And the flip happens and you

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know you hate to see it.
The only thing I'll say is that

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You know, we talked about this
when when we were talking about

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Varner's, you know, he was kind
of a tweener.

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You didn't mess, it did that
impact, kind of what we were

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looking at for him and did what
we were looking at for him

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impact, whether he was still
kind of had his eyes out for

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other opportunities.
It's very true.

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And you mentioned the tweener
that you.

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If you didn't say it on here,
you said it to me in private

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that he's going to play, he's
going to play the five, but he's

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going to Play some three, you
said that, you know, he's gonna

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play five but you the technique,
you know, end over the tackle

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and he's going to play some
three.

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And the funny thing is with
that, why don't want to play on

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the inside, he's going to, you
know, Wisconsin with fickle and

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then less physical changes his
dynamic because always been a

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three-man front guy, he's been
at since he got the Cincinnati,

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he's been that forever that 335
stack and he's guaranteed to

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play in.
In, but it's a spectively the

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same in, you know, you know
what, I don't want to get into

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it because again, it more,
irritates me because of the

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timing.
If the kid was not 100%

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committed, especially the
Signing Day stuff, where

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essentially they had to release
him because he had signed Right,

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that's that's whatever.
That's what we usually they do

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not put, if someone does not
sign they do not put their name,

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they do not go through the
ceremony with them just because

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at Pomp and Circumstance and to
my back's out or something

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happens, not a good and it's
nebulous with the portal because

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the portal, nothing is in ink
essentially, until you enroll.

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Yeah.
So the so the rules are

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different.
But I think how it was treated,

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it was treated as, you know,
that that official, Type

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notation, obviously it ended up
not being so efficient, but it's

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but it's but it's screwed us
even more.

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Now, what screwed us even more?
Because now we were either

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slowing, our search or putting
are putting our search on hold

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for another defensive lineman
because we thought we were set.

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Now, we're kind of having to
ramp that back up a little more

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last minute.
After, you know, some of the

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Pickens have already been picked
through.

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So that's unfortunate side
effect of losing Guy like

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Verner, who we were both, you
know, I think pretty high on.

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Like I said, I think I thought
he was at least going to be a

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guy that production-wise could
have came in and potentially

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replace a lot of what garbage
was doing.

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And we toss that with paint with
having pain back him, being able

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to replace a lot of what what
Griffin did it would be.

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Almost like you really didn't
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at least from what you had last
year that isn't necessarily

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moving us forward in the
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We want to go, but it's at
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Just kind of stopping any sort
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We have on that defensive end
position well, but now we still

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got a staunch it a little bit,
right?

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Yeah, we got a staunch.
Oh, we gotta find someone and

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likely you're having to find.
You've gotta.

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It's now going to have to be
sped up to a point.

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What do we now?
We are.

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Yeah, 110 days until it's over
because it started the 6:30 we

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get 10 days, 10 days transfer
Portal, 1 is closed.

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And you're trying to find my
Assumption was born was the

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older guy, a couple years of
Eligibility left and probably

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looking for a younger guys.
Well you're still having to do

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that search and you know it is
what it is.

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All right, one more piece.
If folks didn't see it, I don't

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think this comes as a shot,
maybe it's a shock of what he

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did but not him leaving,
offensive interior, offensive,

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linemen game, Millet Eck leaves
the program and for the

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Instagram page was he was
signing With a I guess a

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semi-pro team in Germany.
I mean yeah it's good for him.

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Yeah I'm good for him.
He's up he's still able to play

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football getting some scratch
from it.

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You know, had really made his
way up the depth chart kind of

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would float and double deep one
step back depending on, you

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know, every time we got a new
crop or recruits in he'd start.

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So at the we're kind of too deep
and then be 3D by the end of the

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year kind of did that a couple
of years back to back.

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And then we kind of I think he
kind of saw the writing on the

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wall.
I'm not going to play any

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meaningful snaps here.
Let's go.

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Do what I want to do.
Get some time.

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Get some get some Going forward
and go back home.

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Yeah.
Besides go back home and get

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some coin for it and you know,
best of luck to him and whatever

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he does.
But you know that again that

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helps that keeps getting that
number towards you know what it

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needs to be to get the full
class in plus the additional

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portal commits and there were
two this week not one but two it

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was kind of being said left and
right that we were going to be

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Getting to didn't know what to.
I don't think I ever heard of

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name being mentioned from
anybody.

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And if I missed it, I missed it.
But the first one Brian.

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Let's talk about this in on
three transfer portal rankings.

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He is the 24 ranked wide
receiver.

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He is from Middle Tennessee.
Someone, we played back in 2021

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and you know, five foot eight,
hundred seventy five pound.

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Jalen Lane, coolest.
Part about Jalen is the way on

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three ranked in, he was a guy
who was just barely a 3-star

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coming out.
And now he's borderline for

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start in the transfer portal
with on three.

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And, you know, you looked at
some of his tape.

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What are you seeing from him?
Where's he going to play, you

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know, where can he play?
Where do you think you're going

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to play?
I think it what we're trying to

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do and just based on his skill
set his frame he's going to slot

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in at the slot.
I think he's definitely going to

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pair well with Felton with
Jennings in the slot for this

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team.
Especially as we're moving

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towards a little bit more of
that Moorhead RPO going into

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this season with drones pulling
the trigger.

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I'm really excited about this
group of wideouts because we

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went into the office.
These I'm like alright so with

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Caleb in the portal we're
looking at Lofton with 22

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receptions as are our big
returning wideout this year and

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now we've completely flipped
that room over and it's going to

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be big.
And I think the question that it

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also brings is that with these
three guys coming in.

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Are we about to see some wide
receiver attrition?

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Is that going to happen at the
back end of window?

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One?
Or we going to wait and see how

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they play through the Spring and
the ones that are ready to jump

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will do.
So in that second window, what

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are your thoughts man?
Well, my thoughts on that is I

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think there has to be louder
attrition now and in this is

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more for those guys than it is
for the team.

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If you want to sit there and try
to go through spring, I mean it

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easily could be guaranteed that
you're not given a scholarship

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after Springs done.
You know, and you're going to

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have the the Lesser time in the
portal, but let's look at that

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room real quick.
You know, God, I feel like this

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room is getting worse than the
wide receiver room, 14, total

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wideouts 14.
It's a we debated this earlier.

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So he's referring, like,
comparing you to the running

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back room under flinte.
There's like nine.

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The, I one point he was 11.
Okay.

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Okay wait, so that's not as bad
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So at one point, he was eleven,
now we got 14, wideouts,

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incoming, incoming, incoming
freshmen, with the for you guys.

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Yeah, so I sit here and say, all
right, I think me and you agreed

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earlier, it's somewhere between
two or four lie.

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Who do you think the two or
four, or who do?

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I mean, you sit here tonight, if
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going probably just because I'd
say there's potential for Lofton

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if he's ready to be, take
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different type of squad.
I'd say there's potential for

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Jalen Jones, potentially
Christian Moss those those three

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guys played a A big role
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various parts of the season for
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Jones a little bit less.
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Lofton and Moss, obviously Moss
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Loft and kind of up and down as
the year went along, are they

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looking to to move on because
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wideouts coming into of which
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Eligibility remaining, it's
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I don't know, I don't know, it
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They're if they're settled in
their role if they want to fight

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to get some more snaps out
there, in the games, against

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these guys who seem to be the
until we see other tape, the

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starting starting three slot x,
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Yeah.
So I mean I think we got those

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three are the guys unless
somebody that was on the roster,

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take some big steps from last
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So do they take the spring?
NG to see if they make those

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steps and can push those guys or
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They go ahead and try to find
their future home.

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Now while there are more slots
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they need to go and get in
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And if you ask me, I think if I
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would want to stay in should
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Gosnell and I say that because
we've already seen with Boeing

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and fontelle, is they will
rotate.

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It's not like these with Felton
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And now Lane coming in it's not
like they're going to be coming

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in and they're going to get all
the snaps.

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We saw him last year being
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where I get more concerned is,
this is, this is just me

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thinking right now.
I think guys like Jalen Jones

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dalen, right?
Bradshaw I think Christian Moss

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less because we kept seeing
Christian Moss, we kept seeing,

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we heard his name, mentioned a
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I mean, I think it's one of
those things you pick up and

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find a home, because if you sit
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guys, like Aiden, green chance,
Fitzgerald, and Baylor come in

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and absolutely fall.
You're going to have about a 15

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day window where she is now.
If you put yourself in the

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portal with the roughly 10 days
left, you're guaranteed your

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scholarship for the spring and
you can start marketing

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yourselves and figure out where
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Whether it is G5.
F CS D to giucose in places like

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that.
So I'll say, two things against

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that.
So number one, Bradshaw number

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one on Bradshaw, I think
Bradshaw's are starting slot

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receiver in 2025.
Okay, so I don't think he is a

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guy that is going to transfer
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stays are not, we've we've seen
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And I'm not sure if it, like I
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significant Improvement and
fluidity within the system in

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this spring, I think he's
getting leapfrogged by a guy

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like Bradshaw in depth chart by
the end of next year.

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Well, I mean, but see, I was
more, I'm looking at 2023 and if

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you tell me, can you depend on
Bradshaw or any of those guys

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for 2023 Lofton, didn't blow it
up but at least you know, Lofton

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can play at the Level and you do
need some depth and that's

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what's got to be figured out in
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And we're going to be getting
into that, in these upcoming

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months, which is going to be a
lot of fun.

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Let's flip to the other commits,
Brian, another really good

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player, and that's going to be
Derek canteen out of Georgia.

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Southern another guy that if you
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you know, he came out underrated
guy, you know, basically,

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mid-70s, you know, so 2 Star,
and now getting ready to, he is

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one of the top 50 Corners in the
portal and he commits, you know,

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five-foot-ten 175 pounds and You
know, you look at his stat line

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that I didn't get to talk about
Jane Lane stat lines, which you

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want to go.
See some go look at the Miami

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staff line, he torched them a
few times but his his true

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freshman year back in covid year
six pics.

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That's insane.
Yep.

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Coming out as a freshman in
obviously want some Honors that

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year, but what's the tape
talking about canteen?

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And, you know, little bit of
regression, you know, 2021

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injured.
Little bit of regression this

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year but still playing at a good
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but what's the tape telling you?
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So look at, let's talk about a
couple things.

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So when we talk about the tape,
I see him as a very prototypical

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nickel Corner that has
Flexibility to play outside.

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Okay.
So I think that would be the

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type of role that he would have
for us this year.

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When we look at the production,
Greg Robb, see, great numbers in

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2020.
When you look at kind of the

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various metrics that are out
there, not as many pics last

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year, little bit better when he
was called on to rush.

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The passer got more
opportunities to do that as

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well.
The only thing that would

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concern me is that his tackle
Lling, got significantly worse

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in 2022 compared to 2020 when he
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Whether that I think the big
thing is as to his success for

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us is going to be whether that
kind of regresses, at least to

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the mean, for us this year, if
it does.

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And I think we're okay.
I mean it wasn't egregious fall

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off, but it was certainly
something to that kind of turns

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your eye, and if he can clean
any of that up at all, even if

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he doesn't get back to the
levels, he was at in 2020.

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I I think we'll be fine.
All right.

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Do you feel comfortable with the
three-man rotation?

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And when I say three-man
rotation, do you feel

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comfortable with Dorian?
Strong coming off the field and

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it being only him and mental
Yeah, I think so.

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You look at the combination of
those three, kind of being the

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three primary corners and then
you'll probably work in cam

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Johnson and one or two other
guys in a, in some sort of

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occasional rotation rate, but
the big three are going to be

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strong delaying, and then
canteen in my mind, based on

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what we're doing so far.
Unless, let somebody takes a big

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step in jumps one of those guys,
this offseason, which I don't

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foresee happening, but we'll
see.

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I feel pretty color.
I feel more comfortable with

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those three going into the
season.

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Then I felt last year with the
three we had, and we had a

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veteran group last year.
We had guys that have played a

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lot of snaps but we just didn't
have what, what I would have

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perceived at the time as being a
true Alpha, starting the season.

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Yeah.
And I think we're starting to

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see see those guys kind of
emerge in that room a little

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bit.
So I think there's going to be

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something to talk about there.
Yeah.

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And as far as it goes with just
a stat line, From canteen.

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I mean the guy still had 2:12
flexions as a corner.

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So so he may not gotten the ball
as many times he still had a

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quite a few pass deflections.
So we'll see.

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Again, I think that room is now
pretty solid.

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What we again?
You said it.

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There may no be no one from the
current roster that can take

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that big step.
But I just think we want to see

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good gains from guys like cam
Johnson to be able to supplement

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the Three starters in that case.
All right, let's take our mind

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off football unfortunately for a
few minutes guys, cover your

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eyes guys, let's talk a little
bit about who's Brian, you know,

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Hokies currently on a four-game
losing streak that goes back to

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the bcam that unfortunately
kicked off the state of the

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program addresses are Jeremy
decided to black out because of

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that game.
Yeah, exactly.

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That's the only reason, nothing.
Else.

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But you know, we're talking
pressure, we're talking about

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losses now to Wake Forest by two
points to Clemson by three

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points and the loss.
The Comeback comes up short,

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versions NC State by four points
and this team, which was rolling

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going into December, is now
absolutely reeling and tough

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trip tomorrow night to the
Carrier Dome.

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But you know, No, just those
games I mean I didn't get to see

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any of the State game.
I was I was out with my

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wonderful wife, enjoying this
Unbelievable Burger at Red Sox

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here in Richmond.
That was really damn good when

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he went and as we leave, I look
at the phone and you and Robbie

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and Jason and blow me up about a
game like with the but yeah that

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one wasn't it wasn't pretty to
watch it really wasn't.

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It wasn't pretty to watch.
And we've I mean, we've kind of

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seen that I think, you know,
we're struggling to put

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consistent offense out there
which is not something I thought

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we'd be talking about.
We knew that the defense is

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probably going to take a hit
this year.

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We thought that the offense was
going to be good enough to

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compensate, but we're a team
right now that needs three-point

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shooting to win and we're not
hitting threes at the clip we

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need to You know, when we look
at the percentage were shooting

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threes, it's just it's much
poorer than last year.

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On a team that in theory should
be hitting more because there

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are more Shooters on the floor.
There are significantly better

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Shooters on the floor.
I mean, you know, we're under

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35% now from three and if you
and if I, if let's go back, what

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I say about five weeks ago, Like
we can't live like that we were

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going to lose games because of
that.

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And here in beholds, you know,
we're losing games and we showed

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earlier in the year that we
could grind out wins even when

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we weren't hitting, but you take
a guy that plays defense, like

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Couture off the floor.
Yep.

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And that's the difference
between grinding out, a narrow

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win, and the losing streak.
There were all right now.

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And again.
So you know, you look at it and

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say, okay, well, some of this is
fixable some of this is fix you,

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you Couture back, you get rice
back who is a has a hair-trigger

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at the three-point line.
We'll see if he can be a boost

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to this team but I think the big
thing that getting Couture and

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getting rice back that's going
to do, it's going to give you

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some more lineup flexibility to
where if one or two guys are

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cold.
There's there's a little more

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flexibility to rotate guys.
In that can maybe kind of give

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the team a spark when the
offense just quite isn't quite

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clicking.
Like, it needs to because right

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now with Without rice and
without Couture, there's really

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no one to kind of bring in from
an offensive standpoint already.

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That start mean no disrespect to
you know, kid or Collins but the

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offensive standpoint they're
good bodies on defense catchy

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few points you out there that
are potiki I've done that all

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year but you know let's talk
about Rodney and one of his

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better games you know this last
outing but it was still you

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know, not until it's not going
to be easy.

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You're not gonna get that from
him.

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Every night exactly.
I mean again we've been talking

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about them coming off the bench
and what it's been even given

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about 1415.
Somebody will get close to 10

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the others or you know, drop in
a couple points here there.

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But let's go back to Rodney rice
real quick because Monday press

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conference.
Might young says he has been

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given the okay to play
Wednesday, which we found out,

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you know, in the press
conference after the loss.

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Right?
Yep.

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You're not being cleared, which
I Think, you know, I understand

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why you don't say that leading
up because you know why let

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teams prepare for your different
way if you're not doing that.

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But and he had to know that this
announcement that he is cleared

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was coming soon when he divulge
the information that he hasn't

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been cleared.
Yeah so he had to know that he

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was maybe at most one game away
from getting that clearance.

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And I get, you know, Mike young
Mind Games.

444
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,100
I get that.
But you know, at the same time I

445
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,300
think from a fan perspective, it
was kind of frustrating to watch

446
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:48,300
a guy, warm-up dress and then
sit warm up dressed like rinse

447
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,400
and repeat for for you know
what?

448
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,000
Almost a month now.
Gets a little tedious I think

449
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,200
I'm going crazy, let me crazy.
Yeah and then you know, it

450
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,100
mattered I think a little bit
less before the Couture injury,

451
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:09,300
but I think everyone was hoping
for a lift when we found out

452
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,700
Couture is going to be out for
at least a handful of games and,

453
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:16,200
you know, seeing a guy that, you
know, was dressing and warming

454
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,200
up and then, you know, playing
was a scratchy, it was a little

455
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,600
bit frustrating and then when
the loss is start coming along

456
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,500
with that, that I think
everybody was getting a little

457
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,100
little frustrated with the
situation.

458
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,200
So now it's nice to kind of be
able to move past that element

459
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,200
of it and we can focus on.
Alright, so what could Rodney

460
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,400
rights do for us?
And we will get to find out that

461
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,400
pretty soon.
We will get to find out on

462
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:46,500
again, tomorrow night at seven
o'clock on the SEC network.

463
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:48,600
So, it's actually on the ACC
Network.

464
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:55,500
Actually on the ACC network, not
are restless for, Actually go

465
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,800
Frank on that just because it's
so annoying.

466
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,000
All right, let's flip real
quick.

467
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,300
Just talk about the ladies real
quick which they're going

468
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:03,700
through some ups and downs after
that.

469
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,400
Notre Dame game, you know, they
get upset at Clemson.

470
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,700
They beat ranked UNC handle.
UVA without kitley UVA.

471
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:13,900
Who'd only had one loss up to
that point, then they get Kelly

472
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:15,900
back and they go down and lose
to Miami.

473
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:21,900
And you know, Louisville coming
up Thursday, they're still

474
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,100
ranked probably still safely in
the tournament.

475
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:28,700
The yeah, they've been playing
but God what is it about January

476
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:32,600
and Hokies basketball, where
it's just like it's a way or

477
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:38,600
it's a freaking roller coaster
of Yeah, I mean and you know

478
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600
these are these are the Clemson,
especially was a game that they

479
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,800
should have taken care of.
Let me, let me put this thanks

480
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Clark.
Oh no, why is it say ACC Network

481
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,100
on the Hokies Sports Page?
Could they put, could they make

482
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,500
that change?
Just so I can be, I think I

483
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,500
think it's all the blackout
rules and stuff like technically

484
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,300
if you're certain places they
carry on the ACC network but

485
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:05,700
well no, no, no.
It says it right here.

486
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,500
It's in Make it a smaller
smaller print, appreciate it,

487
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,000
Clark for that.
But, you know, can the ladies

488
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,100
get back on track of what they
were doing earlier this season

489
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:18,400
over the next few weeks?
You know, they Louisville, and

490
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,100
then you're looking at Pitt,
you're looking at Wake Forest,

491
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,200
dude, Virginia.
Again, it's not like until they

492
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
get to Wake Forest, excuse me
until you to stay.

493
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,600
It's not like they're going
through a gauntlet of big teams.

494
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,500
Yeah, and it's going to be
interesting to see how they kind

495
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,000
of move forward here.
I think that just talent-wise

496
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,300
they're going to circle the
wagons here.

497
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,900
Should But it's been a
frustrating start to January so

498
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,700
far ten days in well,
frustrated.

499
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,000
And more is, you know, we look
at wrestling which was, you

500
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,900
know, get some coverage again.
I thought that would be on the

501
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,300
SEC network on Friday night
versus Cornell.

502
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,700
It's essentially a top-10
wrestling match up with, you

503
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:11,200
know, two programs at send
players to, you know, the

504
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Nationals instead that's a
thirty four Thirty and this is

505
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,600
on ACC extra us where whoever
does the programming for a like,

506
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,500
hire me, give me seven figures.
I can get you figured out real

507
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,300
quick because they're a bunch of
idiots.

508
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,500
Yeah, I'm, I'll do it for six.
You'll do it for 600 country.

509
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,900
I love your country.
I just hired me as a consultant

510
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,100
but, you know, they go out west
and have a couple good matches

511
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:44,700
at Stanford, who has a couple
good couple good guys looking

512
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,900
but they beat them.
They handle another smaller

513
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:51,000
school out there, then they come
back for the Cornell and and I

514
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,100
know there's some younger guys
on it.

515
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,400
I couldn't tell you everything
about rustling, I'd shout out my

516
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,500
fraternity Brother.
David Fuqua, who pays probably

517
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,200
more attention to it and could
tell more, maybe.

518
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,600
We'll have him on one day but it
was a rough loss, but they

519
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,400
backed it up.
Couple days later by wiping the

520
00:32:06,408 --> 00:32:09,600
floor with American and Mason
and I just don't know enough

521
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
about wrestling.
Honestly.

522
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,700
I know someone's that was a jjz.
Who was it?

523
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,800
That said, they were at the
match and one of the matches.

524
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200
It seemed our guy was wiping the
floor with the other guy won

525
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,100
like, three two.
Yeah, I think that those JJ.

526
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,700
Okay.
I wasn't able to watch so

527
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,500
unfortunate.
I don't have a lot of insight on

528
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:37,400
to kind of what was going down.
I saw Sam with the big that had

529
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,600
a big one W there so that was
that was great for him, but

530
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,500
definitely uneven for, you know,
From top to bottom.

531
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,000
So hopefully I mean that we can
see them move on from that

532
00:32:50,008 --> 00:32:51,900
they've already done a good job
with that so far.

533
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:55,100
So I think they'll keep the
train to move in here.

534
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,900
I mean still ranked still going
to send some guys to Nationals.

535
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,900
You got to at the end of the
month which will be on the SEC

536
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:06,900
network and that's NC State pit
two of the other powers in

537
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,400
wrestling.
Again, that will be on acc

538
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Network.
I don't know how that one did,

539
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,300
but this one didn't.
But you know what do I know?

540
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,000
All right, just a couple more
notes before we hit the The

541
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,100
break here.
Brian.

542
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,900
I don't know if you read this or
you know about the man, but

543
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:25,400
Charlie breaker was announced
that he is going to be

544
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,900
succeeding.
Mark Emirate as the NCAA

545
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:36,700
president thoughts?
No.

546
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,500
Because it's the NCAA and we'll
see if a leadership change,

547
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,300
knock some sense into that
organization, but I do See it

548
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:50,700
happening.
This is still an organization

549
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:56,400
that is nothing but a
reactionary money machine and

550
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,400
has zero interest in actually
governing the sport of football,

551
00:34:00,408 --> 00:34:06,100
specifically, they're pretty
awful across the board, but in

552
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:10,100
terms of the the moneymakers for
them, they are awful at

553
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:14,199
governing.
The sport and I foresee a time

554
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,600
when they're going to be made
obsolete.

555
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:16,900
Eat.
All right.

556
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:19,900
Well, I think the move for
Baker's just Baker is a good

557
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,000
politician and it is a good
policy maker.

558
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,699
I mean, I say he's a good
politician.

559
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:29,500
He's a republican that wanted in
Massachusetts, the governorship

560
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,800
not once but twice, which is
pretty damn impressive in my

561
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,900
opinion.
But the question is, has there

562
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,500
been so much damage done by
Emirates regime?

563
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,699
Even if you take a strong person
to come in there and maybe

564
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:44,900
straighten things out, like
they're not going to be able to

565
00:34:44,908 --> 00:34:49,199
do it.
Because they're so far behind, I

566
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,699
would hope not.
I would hope there is a chance

567
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:54,800
and someone new comes in and can
straighten it out.

568
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,300
But I much like you, I'm holding
my breath until I actually see

569
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:03,200
something done.
You know, just you just can't

570
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,400
foresee it.
I need to see a full flip of a

571
00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:11,600
lot of things before I get any
anywhere on board with what

572
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,700
they're trying to do.
All right?

573
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,800
There's Prime statement.
All right.

574
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:19,100
One last piece Prine.
Let's see your feelings on this.

575
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,800
There has been a committee out
there.

576
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,900
The NCAA transformation
committee, that is recommending

577
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:32,600
that March Madness, expand, the
90 teams Boo.

578
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:37,300
No, God.
Who might mean?

579
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,100
It's just like are you bleeping
kidding me?

580
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,100
Like 64 was perfect.
And then you put 6868, says,

581
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:52,300
they say it's fine.
I've got, I've got no big qualms

582
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,700
with it.
I think we've seen a couple kind

583
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:59,000
of come out of that those early,
early rounds, and make a little

584
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,500
noise.
So, I mean, there's, there's

585
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:05,200
some legitimacy legitimacy, put
behind it at this point, but you

586
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600
can thirty two more teams on.
Yeah, that's the thing.

587
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:14,100
It's like, if you said, ok,
well, we go from 68 to 72, I'll

588
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:19,200
have a discussion about But I
mean adding 30.

589
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,200
No, no.
Well, this is the logistical

590
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,100
point, right?
Like, when are you gonna do

591
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,900
this, like a you to literally
going to like announce teams?

592
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,100
Hey, you're in the play in
tournament.

593
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,100
You're going to go here on
Monday and then you're going to

594
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,400
play a game every day this week.
I think it's done.

595
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,000
I think the tournament is what
it is, but clearly you can tell

596
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,700
us an organization trying to
make more money while ruining

597
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,600
one.
The more perfect products out

598
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,000
there.
So if it goes to 90, it's just,

599
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,900
it's like, you gotta stop it
somewhere.

600
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:59,000
You gotta stop in somewhere and
you're at this, really good.

601
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Number that keeps so many people
not working on Thursday and

602
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,800
Friday.
The first weekend in March stop,

603
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,800
stop, don't do it, don't do it.
All right.

604
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,900
Y'all before guys, we get into
some more top.

605
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,300
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Now back to the episode All
right, Brian.

615
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,400
So first note, let's hit this
real quick because this was

616
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,900
awesome.
Awesome, awesome to see

617
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:54,300
released.
Yesterday, Corey Moore is

618
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,200
officially a College Football
Hall of Famer.

619
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:03,600
It's about damn time.
We had talked about this when he

620
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,400
was on the ballot.
Was it August when they kind of

621
00:38:06,408 --> 00:38:08,800
release the final ballot?
And it was like, we went over

622
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
his accolades like you cannot
keep him out.

623
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:15,900
What he did in 98 and 99
two-time Big East Player of the

624
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,200
Year, Lombardi Lombardi Award
winner.

625
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Nagurski also, what has been
surfacing and I know Clark, put

626
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,900
it out there.
Maybe as much as you love

627
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:32,500
marshawn's, I put Cory's one as
far as best interviews with the

628
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:35,700
Press of all.
I mean, yes, 1A and 1B, and if

629
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:39,600
you put them in either order,
I'll sign off on it.

630
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,800
All-time great like big like
metaphorical and literal middle

631
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,100
finger to the media as we're
going to accept rain, really

632
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,800
accept, Randy, Randy.
We're getting at The Love Ranch.

633
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,900
I mean the man who coined the
Chariot on phrasing 99 versus

634
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:03,600
Clemson that game Crazy Eyes
just a just a barbarian on the

635
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,900
field literally try.
And I love how he was like

636
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:10,500
already in intense mode for That
interview.

637
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:14,600
Like he had the same eyes as he
as he did when he when he when

638
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000
he when he talked to said,
Welcome to the Terrordome baby.

639
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:23,300
Same I say Mas, but it's it's
great that he gets there and,

640
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,400
you know, another hokey in the
hall Hall of Fame, which is

641
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,100
awesome.
I'm Brian.

642
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,300
Let's flip and let's talk a
little bit about the games over

643
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:35,800
the last few weeks that we did
not talk about.

644
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Was that not the best?
Semifinals for a New Year's Eve

645
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,100
man, having drinks, eat some
good food.

646
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000
I mean you couldn't ask for more
of those two games.

647
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,500
Yeah I mean they gave us
everything we could have wanted

648
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,800
there were scoring.
There was good.

649
00:39:55,900 --> 00:40:01,600
Good plays on defense.
It was it was the exact balance

650
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,000
between scoring and defense.
I think it in terms of creating

651
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,400
a good college football game,
everything kind of came down to

652
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
the end and bowed.
I mean, that's exactly what you

653
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,900
want.
It is man, you know let's talk

654
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,400
about the last game first.
Yeah.

655
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:24,600
State Georgia game.
I mean, It showed you that you

656
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
know, it wasn't a lead slug
Fest.

657
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,200
Yeah, I'll say this.
I think you're more of an

658
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Harrison jr.
Does not get knocked out of that

659
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,100
game.
I don't think they stop them.

660
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,400
I think that last field goal to
touchdown and I think they drive

661
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,400
it again, that's my opinion that
um yeah.

662
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,800
And I mean you had Kirby Smart
with the most important time out

663
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800
in Georgia.
Football history on the fake

664
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,600
punt.
Oh my God.

665
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,500
And I said, I think they never I
showed it.

666
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,500
I think they gave it to him.
I don't think he got, therefore,

667
00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:00,800
they sent that ball because that
whistle went off.

668
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Almost simultaneously.
It was very close.

669
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,800
I mean, very close.
Super close.

670
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600
And again, that's a pretty big
change, but, you know, they hang

671
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,200
on to win.
And we'll talk about what

672
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,500
happened last night in a minute,
but the first game, This is

673
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:18,100
where that whole getting
prepared.

674
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Can always help a team with
lesser talent because TCU is

675
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,100
lesser talented, the Michigan up
and down the roster.

676
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,100
But you saw they had that
perfect game plan especially

677
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:37,700
defensively, they had JJ's out,
route pegged like in basically

678
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,400
the defensive coordinator
basically said you see that run,

679
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,600
just go run to run through it.
Because they didn't get one.

680
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,400
They got to on the exact same
route and Michigan was too slow,

681
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,200
to kind of pivot off of that or
make or cause some counters off

682
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,000
of that to kind of keep them on
edge.

683
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,400
They were too slow to do it and
that end up, bite him in the

684
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,700
ass.
I mean, you know, they, they

685
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:07,600
kind of put things together
late, but not laying lot of the

686
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,900
damage has already been done and
TC.

687
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:11,900
You did a good job of
capitalizing on every mistake.

688
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:16,500
Michigan made every mistake.
Take what multiple Toronto the

689
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:19,200
to pick sixes the fumble at the
goal line.

690
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:24,300
Michigan, finally get Carmen
aback them into orders, 11 years

691
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,400
later.
They deserved it.

692
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000
It would have been in New
Orleans and even sweeter just,

693
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000
you know.
But you know you mentioned is we

694
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200
were talking through this, you
know, text changes stuff was

695
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,800
basically TCU played the A-Plus
game.

696
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,300
They played their perfect game
offensively and defensively.

697
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:46,200
And even offensively with some
turnovers.

698
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:50,300
And as you can play the B game
in, in that case, even with that

699
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:53,900
Talent disparity, taking
advantage, playing your games.

700
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:58,100
They won.
Now, let's flip the last night.

701
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:03,300
That was not an.
That was an A-Plus game by

702
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:05,400
Georgia.
Yeah.

703
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,700
Georgia had the perfect game
plan and they were Hydra and

704
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:14,900
I'll tell I'll say this too.
There is no one that is selling

705
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,900
the the under hype better than
Kirby.

706
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:22,000
Smart.
Oh my God, because how many of

707
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000
those players say they thought
we were going to be a 7 or 7 win

708
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,600
team?
This year, 8 Wednesday, which

709
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:32,100
has no one I said that.
But but, I mean, they had him,

710
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,900
he had been but believing that
they had been written off as any

711
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:41,000
sort of contender for the
college football playoff and it,

712
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,000
I mean, it showed they, they
played especially last night

713
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,500
like it was the last game they
never play.

714
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:53,700
They did they play K plus and
then TCU borderline brought an F

715
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,200
game.
There was no creativity, they

716
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,700
didn't pivot off anything.
They look, you said it earlier.

717
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:05,000
The book shell-shocked.
Yeah, you know game.

718
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:09,500
They look shook like right out
the gate.

719
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:13,400
They did look like they they
almost got punched in the mouth.

720
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,900
They knew what they had come to
the table with wasn't going to

721
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:22,000
work and they just kind of look
lost and I thought there was

722
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,600
going to be a little something
when they got, they have the

723
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,600
busted coverage, got them the
big play, got down there, got

724
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,200
the touchdown, I was like all
right we got maybe a game here

725
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000
and then Georgia, right down the
field.

726
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Yeah, another touchdown.
And then, you know, what's it

727
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,300
from there?
Twenty Eight straight points

728
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:48,300
before half 20 a straight after
that after that touchdown.

729
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:51,600
And you can, you can tell they
were pressing.

730
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,700
I mean, you know, you went from
from 31 to 38 because you're

731
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,400
pressing so hard to score
because, you know, you got to

732
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,000
get something so terrible that I
have to feel to feel like any

733
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600
sort of momentum and then you
kind of it goes the other way

734
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,800
and they get the other touchdown
to close out the half.

735
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,500
So it was just a comedy of
errors, and a comedy of just

736
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:20,200
really not looking like a team
that knew what to do once, once

737
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,200
their game plan was kind of in
the trash.

738
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,900
Yeah.
And you know, the other pieces,

739
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:26,400
this is where you talk about
Talent.

740
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:29,500
This is, this is the game.
You saw that the Talon disparity

741
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:36,200
was on display, but it was also
the the time to prepare This was

742
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,500
a normal game week.
There were less is more less

743
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:43,100
important, they finished playing
Saturday night, they probably

744
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:47,800
flew back home Sunday, probably
rested Sunday started normal

745
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,900
prep on Monday and with
something like that when you

746
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:54,600
have that big Italian disparity,
you can't find the little

747
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,800
niches.
You can't find, you know, let's

748
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,500
let's fake something.
Let's do this, let's do this.

749
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,200
They went in there and like they
essentially tried to stand up

750
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,900
and fight.
Georgia versus As you know,

751
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:10,300
let's get tricky like, unload
the bag, you can't do that, you

752
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:13,700
can't do that with the talent,
disparity, it sucked even more,

753
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:16,900
that their best running back,
you know, gets hurt in Michigan.

754
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:22,000
The Michigan game at the Fiesta
Bowl, he's out, but I think what

755
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:28,100
we saw between views games, the
USC, Tulane game and other games

756
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:30,700
is it's going to be the reason
12 works.

757
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Right.
Yeah, it's going to be the

758
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,500
reason 12 works because your
Elite teams are going to be

759
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:40,100
waiting up here.
And there could be no non-elite

760
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:43,700
conference Champion team but
with them having three to four

761
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,700
weeks to prepare for whomever,
right?

762
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,200
So like Kansas state will Kansas
State's going to have to play a

763
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,100
team they can destroy them.
Well, if they have a month to

764
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:56,600
prepare to get healed and then
to open up their bag of tricks,

765
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,600
they might pull it.
I know my McDaniel, our buddy

766
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,700
over at SI and Buddy.
The most many times poke

767
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:07,700
himself.
Do you see a change in, who's

768
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:11,900
winning the national title the
next 10 years now but I think

769
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:14,100
this is another short-term.
Not another storm where you're

770
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,800
going to see less, there's big
coaching changes at the places

771
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,600
that we see right now the the
those that are rolling are going

772
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:27,200
to keep rolling 100% 100%.
But again, it's that over the

773
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,100
time frame but also think you're
going to have some Darrell has

774
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:35,700
stories.
And you know, occasionally

775
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:39,900
Cinderella can win occasionally
and I think I think we're going

776
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,800
to see a mostly I said, I said,
you know, you might have a pre

777
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,800
Crown Champion, get knocked off
in the first or second round or

778
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,100
something like that.
And then that results in, you

779
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:57,000
know, a team that shouldn't be
there at least being there.

780
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800
Even if they don't win at all.
They'll have these they'll be

781
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,600
there again, it's hope.
I keep saying that I keep saying

782
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,300
it it's this is a sport built on
hope that and if you you know

783
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:13,500
for years there was no hope.
Then there was a glimmer of hope

784
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,500
then there's a little more of a
glimmer of that was a big

785
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:19,300
glimmer of hope for everybody
out there that you know aren't

786
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:24,100
your top five to seven teams.
All right Brian something we

787
00:48:24,107 --> 00:48:26,200
talked about earlier and kind of
what we're looking at this

788
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,000
episode who are going to be the
new Alpha Dogs for the Hokies.

789
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:35,600
You know, we look around in
there, some old Alphas out of

790
00:48:35,607 --> 00:48:39,000
the door.
You know we look at get Silas

791
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,300
danji, who's Joe Rudolph told us
on here, back in October, he had

792
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:49,100
really become the leader of that
line that Caleb Smith who was

793
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,900
leading the wide receiver room.
This year who has went to Notre

794
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:57,600
Dame got a guy like Taiwan
Garbutt who was maybe not the

795
00:48:57,607 --> 00:49:00,400
most vocal leader on the
defensive line.

796
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,000
But he definitely Was on the
field, the leader because he had

797
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,400
some of the best plays led, by
example, took care of business.

798
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,500
Yeah.
Left it all out there for sure.

799
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:15,300
And a couple more guys and these
are obvious ones in dachshund

800
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:17,200
Shamar, right?
Yep.

801
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
And those are guys a lot of
those names that we've talked

802
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,300
about, you know, for years.
I mean, Dax is really kind of

803
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:31,900
been A leader in the in his room
almost since he first arrived on

804
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:35,700
campus, right?
And like, he's been at least one

805
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:38,200
of the alphas in that room if
not the guy.

806
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,100
So it's kind of its we haven't
really had at least for a

807
00:49:44,107 --> 00:49:48,200
linebacker respective.
This big of a vacuum at the

808
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,100
position in a long time.
Mom and similar with that which

809
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,800
Amari there, I think there
hasn't really been n.

810
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,700
A guy in about two or three
years that has kind of been on

811
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,000
that same level.
So we're going to see some

812
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,400
interesting guys, stepping into
new roles, a lot more leadership

813
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,700
from guys that we haven't seen
leadership from.

814
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:12,300
And we're kind of assess that
and see who we think those guys

815
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,300
might be this year who's going
to step up and kind of take on

816
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,100
those roles as we roll into
2023.

817
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:20,700
Absolutely.
So let's start and let's start

818
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:22,100
it.
Obviously this is an offensive

819
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,200
lineman podcast.
We're going to start right there

820
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:29,000
and Brian, you know?
Who is the leader because it's

821
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,400
not like anybody was standing
out completely on the offensive

822
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,400
line this year.
So, you know, I'm going to I'm

823
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,100
going to kind of pivot and let
you take this.

824
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:40,400
Because what are you seeing, who
do you think could be the leader

825
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,100
of this offensive line going
into 2023?

826
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:48,400
I'm thinking just right off the
bat in terms of guy that's

827
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,300
that's done.
It, Donnie pretty well.

828
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:52,500
Pretty decent level so far Caden
more.

829
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,200
I think it's going to step into
that role for the Hokies in

830
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,600
2023.
Two-year starter now.

831
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,400
He's done some really good
things.

832
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,100
I think took some steps from a
leadership perspective, a little

833
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:10,300
bit this year, you will see if
in an expanded capacity if that

834
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,100
is something that he kind of
grows into heading into 2023 but

835
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:20,700
I feel like he is the guy in
terms of ability and production.

836
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:25,300
He's got the Bona fides to step
into that role, whether he can

837
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:27,600
handle that from a vocal
standpoint.

838
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,300
I'm not sure about.
But I think That's something

839
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,100
that we'll find out because I
feel like he's going to be the

840
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:36,100
guy to kind of take over that
for the offense of line, as we

841
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:40,000
had into 2023, spring practice.
All right.

842
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:44,600
Let me ask this, you know, we
saw him on the line.

843
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,000
He's a grinder, you know, not
the most athletically, gifted

844
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,100
guy, but there's been sort of
the buzz that Jesse handsome may

845
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,000
go to Center.
I mean, I think, you know, that

846
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:58,100
should happen because of how
brayla more played at left guard

847
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:02,300
last year but If he gets to the
center position, you know, with

848
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,600
basically, working his way, into
a starting slot, starting every

849
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,200
game this year at left guard, if
you play center, could he be the

850
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,200
person that takes the reins?
Well number one, is going to

851
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,900
depend on if that's the movie
makes.

852
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:20,900
If he wins that job, I think if
we don't bring anybody else in,

853
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,300
he's going to win that job.
If he moves to Center centers a

854
00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:28,100
little bit, less demanding from
a physical standpoint which was

855
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,300
always been probably his You
straight.

856
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,400
I don't know if he can handle
some of the mental side of it,

857
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,600
but if he picks that up, well
enough, I think that, you know,

858
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:43,500
a lot of times you do look to
your Center is kind of being a

859
00:52:43,508 --> 00:52:46,600
leader.
He's the guy making the calls,

860
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,300
he's the guy kind of setting
things up for the offense as a

861
00:52:50,308 --> 00:52:53,800
whole.
You want your Center to at least

862
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,900
be somebody when they bark you
listen because that's going to

863
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:02,200
have to be what happens a lot.
Not, whether that guy is the

864
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,900
true Alpha in the room or not
can be, you know, debatable.

865
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,100
But you always want your Center
to be a guy that has some some

866
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:11,900
level of vocal leadership in the
room.

867
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,100
All right.
Good deal.

868
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,900
And, and the way things are
heading and we got 10 days, so

869
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:23,400
maybe it changes.
If they go out and they find a

870
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,900
portal lineman that has some
accolades, it has some cash a

871
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:32,700
from your experience.
Can someone walk in off the

872
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,300
street that had not been in that
room and take a leadership role?

873
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,400
If we're talking about by the
time, fall rolls around, maybe

874
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,400
if we're talking about between
now and spring.

875
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Definitely not.
Okay?

876
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,700
But if we want to have Guy that
can be some sort of leader that

877
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,800
he definitely needs to be on
campus in the next 10 days.

878
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,200
That's not going to be a second
window thing.

879
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800
If you're looking for the
leadership aspect, then they

880
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:11,500
need to be on campus in the
spring, got it.

881
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,300
So obviously let's let's take a,
you know, let's hold tight and

882
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:18,200
see what happens, the next 10
days, but I'm going to go back.

883
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,700
I think I'm with you.
I think Caden wash the guy and I

884
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:23,200
think he's got to take that
role.

885
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,000
It was more because as you are
watching the tape last year,

886
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,800
right?
Brian.

887
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,200
He did.
He have his mistakes?

888
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,600
Yes.
But was he probably the most

889
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,300
consistent guy on the line in
your opinion.

890
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:37,900
I'd say he was the most balanced
in terms of being successful in

891
00:54:37,900 --> 00:54:41,600
the Run game and the passing
game in terms of past Pro and

892
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,900
and run blocking.
He was the most consistent

893
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,000
weekend week out, he didn't
necessarily have those Elite

894
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,000
games but he also didn't buy
them out like some of the other

895
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,700
players did and even some of the
players leadership role had a

896
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:58,800
game here where they would say
they would have bottomed out.

897
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,800
So I would go with with Cade
more as being kind of that

898
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:08,100
steady Eddie and like I said
with two years of experience

899
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,600
starting, he's going to be kind
of the Elder Statesman in terms

900
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,800
of career snaps heading into the
season as well.

901
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Got it.
Alright so next room let's look

902
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,200
at wide receivers and this is
one we agreed on real quick

903
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
because of a lot of different
variables and that's Ali

904
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,800
Jennings.
Even though he is a portal guy,

905
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,500
a he's done it right.
Yep.

906
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,800
His two years that ODU he has
been putting up numbers.

907
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,600
He puts up numbers on everybody,
whether it's a G5 and that's the

908
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,600
s or the team.
He's now playing for because he

909
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,400
lit us up last Here for over 100
yards and as we B with his

910
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,900
quarterback having no time, and
an inability to get the ball,

911
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:53,800
even drive the ball downfield,
most of the time.

912
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,400
So yeah, at all, but the bigger
thing as me, and Brian were

913
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,600
going through this and going
through this exercise, has its

914
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,600
that relationship with fontelle
Minds because I think from the

915
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,900
guy that recruited him at
several places, got him to ODU,

916
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:18,300
you know, coach them at ODU.
He knows what fontelle wants and

917
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,100
Brian.
Sometimes that can be the

918
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:24,100
biggest leader, if it's the guy
who is preaching, the coach's

919
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:28,100
message the best and has the
respect of everybody, that's an

920
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:32,100
easy transition.
Yeah, and Jennings is definitely

921
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:35,400
that guy.
It's going to be a pretty easy

922
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,100
transition to the locker room.
He's a Virginia guy.

923
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,300
So I think that's easily going
to resonate with a lot of the

924
00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:47,300
guys in the locker room as well.
And again he's a guy that is has

925
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:54,600
the Bona fides to back up what
he's when he what he's saying on

926
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,600
the field so when he barks I
think those guys are listen yeah

927
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:02,600
now the thing is with this
though Ali is just a one-year

928
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,900
guy so with bringing the guys in
like Lane and felt that in some

929
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:11,800
of the younger bucks.
Take a look at you know we're

930
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,100
going to be kind of in the same
spot again last year.

931
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:19,100
But the better part about this
is you kind of get to see who

932
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:23,000
second-in-command watch.
I mean, it's one of those weird

933
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,200
things when you hear who Ali's
living with, who's around them,

934
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,300
a lot, when we know, we'll see
it when we see David Cunningham

935
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:34,200
and some of the other guys
videos, during some of the

936
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,300
practices, who is his
Lieutenant.

937
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:39,200
Yep.
Because whoever the lieutenant

938
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,000
is whoever's with him a lot.
That's probably going to be your

939
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,200
dog next year.
It was like, when Isaiah of Don

940
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,300
we knew can was going to be yep.
That guy, he was just

941
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,100
Lieutenant.
They were friends.

942
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:53,000
You could tell they, I think
they live together.

943
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Even so, you know, it's one of
those things where it all made

944
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,300
sense.
And I think that's kind of what

945
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:01,100
the book for going in the
future.

946
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,200
All right.
Defensive line because this is

947
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,200
where me and you had a long
conversation, feel like we

948
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,200
talked about 25 minutes on it
because I said, It was kind of

949
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,100
what the offensive line to.
But with the offensive line

950
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:19,000
you've got sort of two groups,
right?

951
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,700
You get your Edge and you've got
your interior lineman.

952
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,900
And how do you decide who
becomes the leader out of those?

953
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:32,100
Or is it sort of subsets?
And I was talking to I said

954
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,800
there's probably going to be a
little bit of both, right?

955
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:38,700
Yeah.
So I gave the example of, you

956
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:45,400
know, if I had a guy if I play
guard I need to I needed to

957
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:51,800
approach a leader about
technique or concept of a play

958
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,800
or anything like that.
I was going to probably talk to

959
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,200
the guy.
That was ahead of me or a guy

960
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:01,600
that had been there for a while
at my position whereas the

961
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,900
overall leader of the Union
might be somebody different.

962
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:10,800
I'm gonna shout at Lee Bailey
hear from him to Sydney 2003 All

963
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,400
American Center He was the guy
that if he barked you listen,

964
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:20,200
but if I need to know something
about guard play, I was going to

965
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,000
Chad cop.
So it's kind of one of those

966
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,700
scenarios where depending on the
circumstance Your Leader might

967
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,500
be, might look a little
different depending on the

968
00:59:29,508 --> 00:59:30,600
circumstance.
But you're no.

969
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,900
You're going to have kind of
that overarching force on that

970
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:38,400
unit and when we look at that,
you know, could that be one of

971
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,000
the D tackles that?
Played a lot of snaps at this

972
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,900
point, like a Pollard of fuga
Kendricks could we know poller,

973
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,500
we know Pollard's one of the
most vocal guys in that room.

974
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:52,800
Big vocal guy, big, vocal guy
said, I mean, if you're looking

975
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,800
at overarching legal leader from
a vocal standpoint, you know you

976
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,800
can see him emerge, if we're
looking to d-ends.

977
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,600
I mean if Ladarius pain hasn't
played any snaps for us, but

978
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,000
he's been on the roster now for
for over a year or almost a year

979
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,100
at this point.
So is that somebody that could

980
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,200
move, to a leadership role on
the from a d and perspective, we

981
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,400
probably lost our The biggest
this year and probably the

982
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,000
factor number two.
Also.

983
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:27,800
Yeah, with Griffin's eligibility
expiring as well.

984
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,200
So You know who does the DN
room?

985
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,400
Look to?
I mean Varner gone definitely

986
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,500
leaves some questions.
I think Varner if he too came

987
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:39,500
in, could have potentially been
a guy that could have stepped

988
01:00:39,500 --> 01:00:43,700
into some type of role like that
but you know Wisconsin has them

989
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,000
now.
So we got to look to the future.

990
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:49,800
I don't think anybody else that
you bring in in the portal

991
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,700
whether somebody gets into the
next 10 days or they come in

992
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:55,200
after spring.
I don't think anybody else at

993
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,900
this point would have the cachet
to step into the locker room and

994
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:02,300
be that That for this unit.
So we're looking at guys on the

995
01:01:02,308 --> 01:01:03,900
roster right now.
So I think probably your

996
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:08,100
d-tackle room is going to be
leading the group, the better,

997
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,600
the best place to look for a
leader for that unit.

998
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,400
This year, all right, I mean, in
that makes sense.

999
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,800
And again, we had discussed
actually, before Varner

1000
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:21,600
decommitted it was, I think the
way we had it written down here,

1001
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,400
farmer could leave the room just
because he wasn't all EAC

1002
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,800
performer.
He had some credentials right?

1003
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:32,600
Yep, I've played Well, and with
him stepping out, it kind of

1004
01:01:32,607 --> 01:01:36,000
leaves a void right there.
So the question is, you know, on

1005
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,600
that end.
Is it paying?

1006
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,300
Can one of the younger guys step
up into your point?

1007
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:43,500
We've got 10 days.
Is there?

1008
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:47,800
Someone they can bring in from
the portal that just clicks and

1009
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,300
we can hope right, can hope.
All right, let's go to couple

1010
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:58,600
more rooms, the linebacker room.
I think this one is sort of that

1011
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,700
twofold.
All right.

1012
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:02,800
What we talked about with the
wide receiver room because I

1013
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,300
think right now Ron without a
shadow of a doubt, Alan Tisdale

1014
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:09,200
is going to be the leader of
that unit.

1015
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:12,900
Now the question is, is he going
to be the leader of that unit

1016
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:15,000
from The Mike linebacker
position?

1017
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:21,000
I keep saying I think he is I
think he's going to play, let me

1018
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,100
no one else popped, you know?
No disrespect Jason Keller

1019
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,600
looked good at times but you
know, he's still a couple years

1020
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,500
away unless he takes a massive
step this spring, but you feel

1021
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:34,500
like Tisdale probably knows the
defense?

1022
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,300
He's shown some growth in the
last year with everything that

1023
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:39,700
happened with the gambling
thing.

1024
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,800
And then not.
Why not pouting going in there.

1025
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,300
Working scout team to keep
himself in shape.

1026
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:49,800
And then Carlos has a theory
about what he was doing on Scout

1027
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,000
team.
My theories.

1028
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,600
He played, Mike, my theory, is
he played Michael and scouting?

1029
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,900
Why wouldn't you want the most
veteran guy out there being the,

1030
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:03,800
the mic on the scout team
defense?

1031
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,400
Yeah, I mean I think you're
probably right there.

1032
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,900
I liked his Dale as far as this
units leadership.

1033
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,200
I think there's a lot of young
potential in this unit, but

1034
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:24,300
there is no one else that has
the snap recount.

1035
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,800
The experience, the cachet is
Tisdale.

1036
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,500
So I think he kind of stepped
into that role at least four

1037
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,200
2023.
Now, you made the point to about

1038
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,900
Tisdale is Tisdale's.
Not had the Get up here, right

1039
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:41,100
at career, Tisdale has had a
freaking roller coaster of a

1040
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:44,500
career, which you when me and
you were talking, you said that

1041
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:48,100
might be a great thing for this.
Young room is the guy who has

1042
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:50,700
had those who hasn't had the
perfect time?

1043
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,500
He's not he's not Captain
America out there, he's not a

1044
01:03:53,508 --> 01:03:56,800
guy that's like, always been on
the right track or always did

1045
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,300
the right thing or this, that,
and the other.

1046
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:02,100
He's a guy that, you know,
didn't always do the right

1047
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:04,300
thing, or didn't always work as
hard as you need to or things

1048
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,600
like that.
But now, You know, he's turned

1049
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,200
it around, he's doing the right
thing, he's getting it done.

1050
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,700
I think he showed so much last
year, especially once he was

1051
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:15,700
cleared to play.
I think that these ready to kind

1052
01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:17,700
of step into that type of role
for this defense

1053
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,900
abso-freakin'-lutely.
Now, Brian, when you started

1054
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,800
talking about this, though you
mentioned the name that you

1055
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,900
said, how?
He looked those last three games

1056
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:31,100
and if he takes that step this
year, he's going to be barking

1057
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:34,300
you orders for a couple years.
Yeah, give me Kelly lost from

1058
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:37,000
here.
I think he could really step

1059
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,900
into that kind of 1B leadership
role that Lieutenant heading

1060
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:48,300
into this year took a big step
after switching positions and

1061
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,000
switching sides of the bowl.
Like, there was a lot of things

1062
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,300
that were in flux for him.
And as the season went on he

1063
01:04:56,300 --> 01:05:00,300
really kind of grew into that
role and I think you know, he

1064
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,100
sent you seen him, he's been
vocal on the field vocal on the

1065
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,500
sidelines.
He plays with his heart on his

1066
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:07,400
sleeve.
Leave a lot and I think people

1067
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,900
could rally around that.
So you know that that's going to

1068
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:13,300
be a guy to keep your eye on if
he can kind of put all the other

1069
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:16,700
pieces together, long term, I
think we got a leader in Lawson

1070
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:24,200
and a leader that can absolutely
fall and is a freak, so awesome.

1071
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,400
Well, one more room to hit
Brian.

1072
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,700
We're gonna look at the
defensive back room.

1073
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:30,200
We're going to look at that
together, kind of like looking

1074
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,200
at the defensive line room and I
mean everything is on the table

1075
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,400
for For the overall group
leader.

1076
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,000
Very, very likely to be Dorian
strong.

1077
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:45,900
Come springtime.
Yep.

1078
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,900
And I'll caveat that within that
room you could potentially see

1079
01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:54,800
if the lane comes on more.
He's still very young but I

1080
01:05:54,800 --> 01:06:00,100
think the the season that he put
out last year especially how how

1081
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:02,600
much he came on.
Once he got an opportunity,

1082
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,200
people are definitely going to
look to him as one of those guys

1083
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,500
in the locker room but I think
it's strong initially just

1084
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:16,500
because he does have Again two
years under his belt as a

1085
01:06:16,508 --> 01:06:22,900
full-time starter and he's a guy
that I think can really kind of

1086
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:26,600
keep the unit together and kind
of work through the things when

1087
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,300
they need to work through them
and to get get better as the

1088
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:32,300
season goes along.
So I'm looking at strong as

1089
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:37,700
being that guy out, the gate
especially in the spring because

1090
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,400
I think he's just the guy that
they're going to look to as the

1091
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,600
true veteran on that unit.
Yep.

1092
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,900
I mean Three years playing in
everything.

1093
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:47,700
Now we mentioned it earlier
tomorrow and Connor tomorrow

1094
01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:52,300
Connor effectively like Dax
probably since 2019 LED his room

1095
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,000
but the safety room and let's be
for real.

1096
01:06:56,100 --> 01:07:00,000
I think the way it's shaping up
I mean you know I likeness your

1097
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,700
peoples and everything but the
waves from and played last year,

1098
01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:08,600
the name, the caveat you know
big bro.

1099
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Got a pick by the way.
You see that?

1100
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,600
You see?
But yeah yeah.

1101
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:16,600
Good for Greg but I think
Jalen's strowman.

1102
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,600
He will definitely need the
safety group this year.

1103
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:22,900
I think, I don't think there's a
doubt in that.

1104
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:26,700
I just you see him.
You just like it's that feels

1105
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:28,200
kind of like the way Greg was
great.

1106
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,400
Wasn't effective leader of the
D-Block.

1107
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:36,600
So I mean do you do you see
anybody else potentially trying

1108
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,400
to taking that from him or is,
do you think that's his?

1109
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:46,000
I think it's kind of going to be
strobing and people's 18. 1B and

1110
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,900
I think you might see the spring
peoples have it and then Stroman

1111
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:53,300
kind of takes it over as we get
to the fall and that and that's

1112
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:55,000
okay.
That kind of stuff happens.

1113
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,100
I mean, but you know, you'll see
it when it happens, right?

1114
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Yeah.
It's kind of one of those things

1115
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,100
where you kind of see leaders
emerge, if your eyes are open

1116
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:07,400
and you're watching what's
happening.

1117
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:12,400
So, but I think you know that,
that's something where if

1118
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,500
strowman doesn't Merge out of
the gate in the offseason.

1119
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:19,300
I think you'll see him kind of
take that mantle as he starts

1120
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:22,500
making some of those big plays
in the big games, and I think

1121
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,200
people start turning to him as
being kind of, the guy, kind of

1122
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,200
the juice for that room, 100%
100%.

1123
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,200
So, you know, there's some,
there's some position groups we

1124
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,600
didn't mention in here
obviously.

1125
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,000
And, you know, obviously the
most standout is just

1126
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,600
quarterback just because you
can't call a leader that yet

1127
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,800
because there is going to be a
competition.

1128
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,000
The competition petitions going
to start in just a couple weeks

1129
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,800
here with winter workouts.
So we did mention that one

1130
01:08:48,899 --> 01:09:03,100
drones drones well, the account,
I'm not saying you know, Gallows

1131
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:05,600
definitely still believe the
tight end room even as good as

1132
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,300
Daquan, right?
Played and the running back

1133
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:10,800
room.
You know.

1134
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,800
To me, it's still Malachi
because when Malachi played the

1135
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,300
offense look significantly
better last year, King has had

1136
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:25,399
the bigger plays Malachi.
Just seems to have just the, the

1137
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:30,899
better fit for down by down.
Yeah, that makes sense.

1138
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,500
And I think and that actually
helps King because when King can

1139
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:39,600
be a change of pace, You're
going to see him break those big

1140
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,000
plays more consistently.
Yeah.

1141
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,700
But again, I go back to think
about when Malachi came with

1142
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:47,800
Miami, right?
No, not mine.

1143
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:50,899
Miami!
I always lose.

1144
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,000
Give me a moment here.
This is why I keep certain pages

1145
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,900
up.
But I felt like when Malachi

1146
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:01,400
came in, its like, the offense
was, starting to take shape,

1147
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,300
until he got hurt right Malik.
I had had some big plays here

1148
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:09,300
there that kept the offense on
the field when it, otherwise

1149
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:12,000
should have been off the field.
Exactly.

1150
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,200
Exactly.
And I say from you, he's the guy

1151
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,200
that kind of makes up for he
made up for some of the

1152
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,600
deficiencies that this offense
had last year in spots and I

1153
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,500
think that'll open up even more.
Yeah.

1154
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,800
And that'll open up even more
with more rp0 this year, with

1155
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,800
less of a focus on the ground
and pound play action.

1156
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,000
A little more on getting that
defensive line in Conflict as to

1157
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,000
whether it's run or pass.
So the more we, the more we lean

1158
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,700
on that, the easier it's going
to be for these running backs

1159
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:49,600
and Malachi to really kind of
get into games and take over

1160
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:54,200
games in in the reason I still
say Malachi Malachi paid in

1161
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,200
three games issue.
He got hurt in the Gain.

1162
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:02,900
He had almost 250 yards from
scrimmage two touchdowns in

1163
01:11:02,900 --> 01:11:04,500
basically two and a half
quarters.

1164
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,200
And if we saw in the State game,
when he went down the juice,

1165
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,000
went out of the offense.
Yes it did.

1166
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,000
Yes, it did.
Alright, we real quick just a

1167
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,600
message here.
Coach come to not able to make

1168
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,300
it, a Nike will be on with us
soon.

1169
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:25,200
Definitely, going to talk about
the AFC a conference that he

1170
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,600
attended in maybe looking at
some, a few other things with

1171
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,600
some schematics will be guy
there.

1172
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:34,800
One other thing, Brian, not
trying to be political on this

1173
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,900
show, but he is a hokie is a
hokie.

1174
01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:43,000
We grew up with watching him
play in that safety position and

1175
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,300
Ralph's got elected the Virginia
state senate tonight.

1176
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:51,400
So a big congrats to him.
You know, good for him, ever

1177
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,600
jigna Beach, 7th District 7th
District down to beach.

1178
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,500
So good for him.
You know, anything else

1179
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:01,500
breaking.
Its this is not the time of

1180
01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:03,400
year, anything to break in
anybody to lose.

1181
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:06,500
I mean, it's not not a lot of
breaking at least, hope he

1182
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:08,500
related because there's nothing
really.

1183
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:12,500
Yeah, we're taking a night.
We're waiting here, who are

1184
01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:14,800
waiting, but if there is nothing
left.

1185
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Brian, let's wrap up this
episode of The Foundry corner.

1186
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000
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1187
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,000
Pharmacy, in Blacksburg
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1188
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:30,500
I'm Brian Sigler, visit our
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1189
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:35,200
to listen to all of our episodes
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1190
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,400
listen to the state of the
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1191
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,500
listen to it, you missed a
banger, it went off the rails a

1192
01:12:43,508 --> 01:12:48,000
little bit at the end, but it
was a banger well again, but it,

1193
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,900
it was also really good points
made.

1194
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:56,200
We made it and I let Sally know
that he was making good points a

1195
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,600
whole lot.
Yeah, there is a certain segment

1196
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:05,000
where, you know, Braun probably
forgot his own name is when you

1197
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:07,300
hear him agreeing with Talia a
lot.

1198
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:10,700
Loudly right there, we've
pinpointed it.

1199
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:13,000
We failed in the second half of
the episode.

1200
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,100
He could play a drinking game
just on the number of times.

1201
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:18,800
I said, I'm right there with you
tally.

1202
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,400
If you took a shot, every time
you did that, Wrecked.

1203
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,700
You'd be as drunk as I was
Levar.

1204
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,400
We appreciate it, man.
We appreciate all y'all hanging

1205
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,300
out with us tonight.
We got quite quite a few.

1206
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:33,700
Yes, it was hilarious of our
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1207
01:13:34,700 --> 01:13:37,600
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1208
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,200
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1209
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,600
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1210
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,600
Y'all, as always, we, let our
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1211
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:49,400
Jason long playlist in play us
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1212
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,700
Check him out on his website.
Jason In Long music.com, I'm

1213
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:55,800
sure he's gonna probably be
having some dates somewhere in

1214
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,600
the near future, where he's
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1215
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,900
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1216
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1217
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,700
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1218
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,400
We thank you for listening.
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01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:14,900
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