In this episode we discuss the recruiting wins and losses in the month of July, the recent interviews with Coach Hamilton and Coach Fuente, and our perspective on what NIL and a 12 team College Football Playoff means for the sport and for the Hokies.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with Brian Segal.
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
Tiga, we are back from a little
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Hiatus, man.
How you doing little vacation?
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I'm well-rested, man.
I'm well rested.
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I'm doing a week down in the
mountains in North Carolina.
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Hit the lake.
Hit up a bit a little detour up
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to Dollywood One Day.
Road, some coasters, had a good
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time.
How was your time back home,
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buddy back home was a lot of fun
for a few days and that with the
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family, when we do the pool one
day, my nephew is a Hibachi
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master, so had some Hibachi one
night, had a greater, it was
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really a great time.
You know, few days, back home
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and kids were good.
Overall, they each got to stay
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up like past 11:00 consecutive
nights for the oldest one.
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That's not a problem for the
little one who wakes up at 5
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a.m. every morning.
That's problematic.
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Oh problematic, I've got back
home a couple times.
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It's been a lot of a lot of fun.
Middle summer, man.
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And there we go, like, we've
missed a lot.
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We gotta, we gotta, we gotta
Load it up and sewed here guys.
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We got a little bit of
everything.
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We got some recruiting, we're
going to touch on some
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interviews that we had and then
we're going to hit on some of
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the two bigger topics that have
really come across the aisle
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here in the summer, which is the
proposed 12 team playoff
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expansion and the name image and
likeness.
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So that's into the new era of
college football here.
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Yeah, a big New Era of college
football.
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Because it's changing what we
grew up with 25 years ago is no
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longer the case and a lot of
things we want to talk about
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tonight, but since we've been
gone, guys, obviously some
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big-time things have happened.
Let's start first with Ramon.
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Brown committing to the Hokies,
the 511, 200 pound running back
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at a Manchester here in the RV.
A big-time get 4 star, a top-25
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running back.
A top 24/7 player.
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Yeah, what are we seeing from
Ramon?
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Rhyme either.
The big thing is going to be
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great like perception-wise.
Let's talk about that first
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because getting a high-caliber
skill position player from the
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state of Virginia.
That's something that we haven't
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really been able to pull in the
last couple Cycles.
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So it's nice to see us, get back
on that wagon when he committed,
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that was a big deal, that really
kind of, move the needle in
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terms, Terms of, in terms of
perception.
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Now that we're not saying that
okay.
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Well, all of a sudden, all is
well, but you start grabbing
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guys like that consistently,
that starts to change the
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narrative a little bit and it
shows that, you know, some of
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the new guys on the staff that
have been brought into
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specifically recruit starting to
pay some dividends.
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It also shows that little more
investment is starting to pay
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off as well.
So you know kudos to the guys
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that were able to you know, work
the recruitment.
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For Ramon there and I really
like what he brings to the table
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skill set was.
I think he's going to be a good
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asset.
Should be a guy that's going to
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see some rotational care.
He's probably in his second year
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on campus.
If not his first year.
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So, looking forward to see what
he does for us.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Shoutout to Smitty, and lectin
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Berg, who were his primary and a
secondary recruiter.
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You mentioned earlier, Bonnie
saw a lot of her.
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We're in this guy.
I think you kind of look at this
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bill that makes sense.
Also ran a 45 40 back at the
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opening back in, 2019 in back
that verified at about 185
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pounds at 5 foot 10.
So you kind of look at his
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height weight speed, it checks
out.
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So I mean, they got him listed
2020, he's probably 195, which I
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mean that's that's about what
you want for that caliber of
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player.
Especially that hasn't gotten
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too.
To a Collegiate weight program
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and nutrition program yet.
So probably going to easily add
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another five to eight pounds to
that frame once he gets going
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there and what I make the
Herbert comparison, I'm more
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thinking of the size and kind of
the skillset not necessarily
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what what I project him to be in
terms of output.
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But I mean, Herbert Next Level
this last year for.
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So it's really I mean that
that's a big, that's a big barn
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for someone to have to jump over
I'm not putting that on him, but
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I think just in terms of what
I've seen on film and just the
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athleticism and the size, that's
a probably pretty good cop.
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Absolutely.
All right.
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Where the boundary Corner
podcast?
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We don't everything is not
sunshine and Roses we call it
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like it is.
Dave, before or six days later,
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Bryson Jennings.
Son of former Tech really good
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tight end back in the day.
All Biggie's, Brian Jennings was
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down to us and Carolina, he
picked Carolina which, you know,
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of course, it stings.
He's a legacy, he's choosing to
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go elsewhere.
And it's also one of those
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things to Caroline has now got
like 17 Edge players.
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Well, I mean, we talked about
the type of defense that they
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run.
They need to, they need to load
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up on edge.
But also this stings for several
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reasons it stings.
Because as we'll talk about a
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little bit, we are getting
thinner on the defensive line,
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especially the defensive end
position getting another Edge
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guy in.
Building would have been huge
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going into next season.
You talk about a legacy to, I
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mean, I know I know North
Carolina is on the come up
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everybody.
Everybody has them on the come
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up but at the same time you got
you got to lean the legacies.
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You got to figure out a way
especially guys in your backyard
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ranked.
Well in the state you got to
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close those out because right
now, UNC is doing a fairly good
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job of putting up a gate on
their state and we need to stop
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letting some of these guys get
away.
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Especially guys that we have
Some inroads in already.
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It's true man.
And you don't know everything
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that behind the story.
But again, it's the visual
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Optics.
Now, for me, it's one of those
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you losing it sucks.
We need Edge.
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Obviously, we're going to talk
about a few things later, and
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you say, you'll and Ramon, and
it's like, and you'll, and
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Pernell.
And for me, Brian, it's like
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that.
But if I said here and told you
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a month ago, Do her nails going
to go somewhere else, for we're
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going to get Ramona Jennings or
remold going to go somewhere
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else.
We're going to get Fern, Ellen,
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Jennings.
I feel like the combo.
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We got the two of the three.
We got is the better.
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Of the two of the three, not
knocking, pricing Jennings.
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He 66 235 off edge.
It's like that.
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But how and springs is the best
program in the state.
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Ramon Jennings has one of the
highest rated players nationally
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in the state.
What am I am?
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I trying to poke colored
glasses.
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Remember in colored glasses
here?
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Or is it?
I don't think so because I think
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if you look at I think if you
told me three weeks ago, if we
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were going to lay in two of
those three, I'd have been
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probably okay with it.
Yeah, I think kind of some of
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the Goodwill that happened from
June rolling into July and once
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you get a taste of the goodness,
you kind of start to expect it
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again.
And, you know, we're not going
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to win all these battles,
especially when we go against a
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rising team like UNC or the blue
or blue blood.
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G at the same time like like I
was saying before though you
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can't have things that are
already in your favor and then
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you kind of squander those
things I think I think if it
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wasn't the Legacy Factor if it
wasn't the in-state factor I
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would have less of a problem
with that Miss but it's still
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troubles me a little bit.
So got a message here, our
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buddy, Robbie Mac Browns are
recruiting Master be quiet
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Robbie but all is not lost.
All is not lost the next day.
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One of the highest Landing
recruits.
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This staff has ever.
Got Gunner, Givens, the six foot
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five.
I'm calling him an athlete
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270-pound Prospect right there.
Next tour.
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Lord, bottom tight four-star,
top 125 player in the country.
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Top-five player in the state.
Brian, you've talked about it
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before we have not got two top
10 guys in the state in over a
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decade whereby months from
signing day, but we've got to
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Locked In.
What do you think about Gunnar
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overall?
Gutters a good, grab for several
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reasons.
You know, when we talk about
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removing brown in the
perception, Landing a guy like
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this in your backyard and with
with where he was position in
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terms of the rankings and
everything that that says a lot.
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It says that we got on him
early, we stayed on him.
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It says that we sold Virginia
Tech in the way that we need
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needed to for this type of
player.
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And what I like about Gunnar is
that he does give you some
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flexibility about where you're
going to where you going to put
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him because I think he has the
potential to be a high-quality
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interior offensive lineman
guard, maybe even a swing tackle
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if if necessary.
But I prefer him at guard but he
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also has a potential and I think
where he's going to end.
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End up for a lot of reasons is
going to be on the defensive
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line.
He's kind of that tweener.
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Three technique big defensive
end I think with his size and
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his athleticism at that size I
think he can kind of hang out
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there and defensive end.
Be a good run stuffer but also
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have enough speed to get on
there.
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Get around the edge so I see him
Landing a defensive in.
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But either way it's going to
it's a it's a pretty big get for
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the program and definitely kind
of stamps a month that That
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really turned out pretty well
overall for the Hokies
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absolutely big month on the
recruiting Trail and, you know,
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currently the Hokey sit, you
know, 15th in the country and
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the composite there in the ACC
closing in on the 87.
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And for you guys, you know who
follow the closely that 87
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numbers kind of a number, you
know, if we're right near there,
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we're going to be in the top 25
where we were consistently for
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quite a few years.
So, Let's hope that holds now
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again, like I said, I ain't all
sunshine and Roses man but the
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transfer portal of Robert Wooten
and Alec Bryant Brian.
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I'm going to I'm going to read
the out front.
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I want you to read the wood and
we're going to follow up so
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Bryant.
This was back on the 12th, you
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know.
Basically I want to thank BT for
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everything with the heavy part.
I've decided to enter the
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transfer portal and move on to a
different path to says.
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Nothing to do with my coaches or
the program but this is the best
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thing for me to do for me in my
future go.
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God bless But you read the movie
quote.
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Yep.
Very similarly.
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At least in the start there.
I want to thank VT with the
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heavy heart.
I've entered my name into the
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transfer portal, says nothing to
do with the coaches and the
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program, this is where I want it
to be.
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This is because of an issue that
was out of their hands and mine.
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I accept responsibility and
we'll move on to a different
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path.
I look forward to see what my
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future holds, and we're going to
be talking about the 20
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interview, text outline a little
while.
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But when they got into It
basically, there are two guys
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who are a transfer portal, who
basically had to leave with, you
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know, University issues.
Yep.
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The stories that we're hearing.
It's a shame to me to think that
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if these two guys for what we're
hearing, got suspended for the
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honor board in the judicial
boards at Virginia Tech, might
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need to take a look at it
because to me it sounds like an
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archaic practice.
At some point.
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Just you know, if if everything
we know to be correct is
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correct.
This is kind of.
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This is a petty way to throw a
year suspension on two kids.
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Regardless of whether their
athletes are not, you know, the
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fact that they're athletes, you
know, definitely hurts us from a
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fan perspective, hurts the team
from because they're not there
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with the team.
But, I mean I'd be calling
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bullshit on this.
If this was just My buddy that,
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you know, drinks beer, every
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I mean, this is, yeah, it's a
messed-up scenario for something
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like that to cause that much
turmoil for, you know, I think
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at this point what 19 year old
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ridiculous, but and it sucks
because also we're talking about
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another when I am talking about
the roller coaster ride.
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necessarily on the staff, but
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this is still another, you know,
downward trajectory They have to
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now navigate the other because
it affects the depth and it
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affects perception and it
affects the, you know, Texas 2vt
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movement for whatever you want
to call it.
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You know, at this point it
affects the perception of all of
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that.
So I mean it's not a good look
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even though it has nothing
nesters do with controllable
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aspects, that the staff or the
athletic department could have
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really controlled here.
Absolutely.
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And then later on, we're going
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defensive end position now
because obviously Robert will be
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played in every game last year.
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five they were contributors and
it hurts that up significantly.
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line was looking like a place of
a lot of potential because we
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had depth now it's still some
potential there but the depth is
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less.
So you know again the whole
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situation it's you know, they
both kind of said, you know, I
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accept the responsibility and
everything but it's just what
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we're reading If This Were to go
back in A to say this, if we
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were in college and that
happened to me, oh I'd raise
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holy hell, let's just leave it
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Hi everyone.
Okay, so I'm going to want to
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let's do a scenario little role
play here.
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It's announced ACC media de
Notre Dame and Virginia Tech
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will be on acc Network.
What's your first thought when
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you heard that?
A Comcast there, they're talking
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to you that was him.
I didn't think that way I was
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like what?
And then 20 minutes later I'm
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reading, do this deal gets to go
RI up for negotiation.
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Starting in August to end in
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They are leveraging because they
put us basically on a SEC
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network and they put a Clemson
against BC game.
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Which species being projected
higher this year.
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They're so for me and Brian, we
have the SEC network, we're not
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affected, but a lot of people in
the state of Virginia are on
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Comcast.
So, you know, like, we're pretty
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much.
I'd say what 2/3 of the
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Mid-Atlantic is on Comcast, and
some way shape, or form.
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So, I mean, right in the prime
media coverage foot print of the
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ACC is, you know, the probably
what forty percent of the
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households in that area at least
40% of the people that still are
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on cable, at least.
Oh, yeah, are impacted by this.
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So, definitely, I mean my cousin
that I saw them in South
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Carolina he is on Comcast, don't
Charleston so it's clearly
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affecting, you know, the entire
ACC footprint and then you know
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they get to leverage the Notre
Dame game with us and basically
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say you don't get that that you
don't get those.
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You don't get that many people.
So you're taking advantage of a
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multiple fan bases and I know
some people are saying, well,
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it's so easy just to click on
the somebody's thing and do it
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and put the issue is It's a lot
easier just to click on your TV
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and go to the spot instead of
calling Mom and say Mom I need
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your password, don't get the
game but I think that guarantees
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that is going to be a night
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Where if it was on ABC, I think
that weekend I saw like I think
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it's like am Alabama.
Maybe it's like three folds,
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right?
It's three or four big games
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that we can wear.
Potentially we wouldn't get the
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ABC Primetime.
Slot.
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We get more of a 3:30 but this
locks into a prime-time game.
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Yep.
All right, so first of all, as
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we get into the interview, with
Jay, Ham on Saturday, Shout Out.
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Billy Pat Grayson, you guys did
an unbelievable job with Coach
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coach ham, is just we've said it
before.
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He is an absolutely amazing
interview, the energy.
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He gives off the way he, you
know, Orchestrates, the stories
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are beautiful and there was a
lot of good stuff in there, but
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me and Brian are focused on the
season, coming up.
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We are, we are, we could talk a
little bit about, you know, how,
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you know, hand was about to go
into the insurance business and,
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but before Fuente send up a text
message, we could go into that
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stuff and we can go into the,
you know, how pretty much he was
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chomping at the bit to get back
to Virginia.
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Tech you're in that time at VMI.
Particular, but we're going to
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focus more on the, I guess the
football aspects.
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Some of that was kind of in the
back half of the interview.
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I don't know how far everyone
got into it, but it's, it was a
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great.
What, almost two hours total
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podcast, so definitely check
that out.
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If you haven't already, we're
going to run through some of the
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back.
Half highlights here.
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Well Curtis, I'll let you, I'll
let, I'll let you lead off here
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with with some of the things you
saw.
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Well, the first time and it
caught my eye was The first
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position.
See, discussed was the
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linebacker room.
Basically, the first thing, you
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said Dax Tisdale absolute
Concepts there with these guys
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play.
A lot of other aspects of the
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game.
They play a lot of specialty and
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they're both valuable there.
They get a ton of reps.
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So he started then discussing
about the rotation of the
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linebackers and maybe a surprise
to some maybe not so much to me
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because we don't have to have a
camp.
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He had Dean Ferguson's knee.
I'm came up and it was a shock
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to you bra mean not a big shock.
I mean, he had been kind of
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floating around from what we
were hearing anyway, you know,
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kind of hanging in there and
make a little bit of noise.
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So it was nice to see that.
That's catching the coaches
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attention there and that, you
know, potentially, we could see
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him in the rotation come the
fall.
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Because honestly, I mean, I like
our Frontline guys, but I'd like
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to see some other guys step up
here, because I'm a little
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concerned behind kind The guys
that that we've seen play.
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So it's nice to hear some of
these other guys are coming
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along as well.
Yep, you know, you feel like you
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trust that actually can trust
his down but again you want to
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see death and when you start to
mention in the names that makes
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you feel good and you mentioned
the maturity of his day off his
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tail.
So that was that's big.
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I know I know we had I think he
had mentioned that previously.
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Yeah I can't remember what where
it was whether it was on
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something that the Hokey sports
did or whether it's something
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like that, but he mentioned that
and that fatherhood is really,
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really kind of worked on Tisdale
and seems like he's a lot more
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mature and ready to kind of step
up and take his game more
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seriously and take it to the
next level.
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So I'm glad to hear that because
I mean ability was never the
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problem with his daily was just
consistency.
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So, if he can get the
consistency lined up, man, he's
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going to be a pretty good player
consistency in weight.
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Yeah, it's one of those things
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Because when you hear them
talking about meeting, Well if
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Tisdale's only 210 215 heat, we
are going to have to spell them.
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Some you're going to have to
pick and choose how much he
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plays, because by all means
you're playing a team that can
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really run the ball as you get
later into the game.
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Brian you can't have him out
there every possession or
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they're just essentially, just
going to wear him out and he's
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just going to completely.
They just move out of the way.
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So that was interesting that he
mentioned that room first.
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Now the next two positions I
wasn't shot.
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He talked about safety T and
quarterback competition and and
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he started rolling off the names
of safeties.
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I mean, Devon Taylor teide Lee
Jr.
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Walker Devon Hunter and Kiante
Jenkins.
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Safety is a strength.
Now they real strength with teh
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coming in to shore up and you
getting David Hunter back.
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I mean that's that's two big
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Right out the gate.
Counted Jenkins got some run
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last year.
And I'm going to I'm going to
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take a brief moment here and
this isn't necessarily football
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but it definitely speaks to how
coach am does his due diligence
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in not only recruiting, but just
trying to relate to the players
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him talking about, you know,
when he went to when he was
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looking at Kyoto Jenkins in high
school body language.
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He didn't like initially kept
his helmet on the sidelines.
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Kept his head down between
series and all this stuff, and
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he actually talked to him, he
was like, okay, well, he keeps
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his head.
But honestly he's ready to go.
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While he helps him stay in in
the mindset of the game when
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he's got his head down with the
sidelines between series, he's
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running through scenarios.
What he did?
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Well what he did bad on the
previous series.
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What he could do to do better
next time out there somebody
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that was that was some good
insight and also speaks to you
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can't necessarily take your
initial view on a situation and
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say okay well that that's what
it is.
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He's willing to dive deeper and
get an understanding of Of the
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players.
And I think that's big and that
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that helps them relate to him
because he knows that he's not
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going to just, you know, close
the book on them just because we
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won Bad series one bad
situation.
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So I think that's big.
That was, that was a really good
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moment for me in the, in the
interview there.
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Yeah, and you know Gionta last
year came in got a ton of
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valuable experience and then you
how ham thinks about that him
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once you in the corner back room
again, competition, I look at
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the depth chart here and you
know, the All-American freshman
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going strong.
He complimented talking about
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Jermaine Waller, had a offseason
to get fully healthy.
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Big dip, remember, 19.
It was kind of a discussion,
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who's better?
Waller or Caleb and obviously
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Caleb's, the bigger physical
frequent, you feel like wall
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with physical, maybe a little
more football Savvy because
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that's kind of been his
position.
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His whole career.
You know, talked about Brian
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Murray talked about, you know,
Armani Chapman, talked about
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Nike Hawkins which is very
interesting to hear because that
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name one mentioned last year.
So again we talked about it, you
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know, lower sex six weeks ago.
Corner.
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You feel good because a lot of
guys have rough sand You know, I
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think Jermaine Waller is such a
key not being leader because
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with Divine Diablo gone.
Waller kind of gets to step into
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that role as the leader of DB
you.
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Well, I will say this, too.
And I mean last year, just
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because of injuries, opt-outs
covid, the devil Hunter
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situation.
The secondary was probably
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overall a weak area of defense
and I feel like going into this
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season even with losing the
caliber player of a Divine
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Diablo we're in a much better
situation in the secondary to
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the point where it's probably
our strongest unit on the
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defense going into the season.
Maybe not as top end as you know
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with with a Mario Our know,
probably a defensive end
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probably being the, the highest
ceiling player.
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Yeah.
But I think Waller could
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potentially re-establish himself
as that dominant player on
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defense.
We haven't even talked about
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Shamari Connor.
You know just said, I mean, this
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is this is a stack unit but I'd
only a more veteran unit than
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last year, but also I think top
end they have more Talent this
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Here.
Yeah, absolutely.
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Now the next one he addressed.
It was interesting how he
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addressed this because this was
obviously the interview after
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looting and Brian had left.
So we're sitting here and he
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starts talking about how you
know we do some things.
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Essentially saying to me off
edge in our defense that we
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can't account for it.
Can we do it every Play?
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No, but how he talked?
About that.
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You can see his mind's already
working on.
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I might be a little thinner
defensive end than I was before.
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I've got to start making
adjustment.
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He mentioned.
He was starting to think about
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that while he was on vacation.
And you know when you hear you
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know somebody say that his
head's in the game it's probably
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never out of the game and when
he's talking about, you know, we
446
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,000
get to do what we still do,
where we don't have to
447
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,200
completely change everything
because we lost a couple pieces
448
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,100
on the beach.
Yeah, I think you know the
449
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,400
defensive adjustments going to
be interesting just because you
450
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,700
know as we've been talking about
I think front line were not so
451
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:30,800
bad.
It's the depth you know we got
452
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,500
probably about three or four
guys we feel like we can count
453
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,200
on.
We like to rotate six.
454
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Guys at that position.
Probably I don't know if we feel
455
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,100
as good about that especially
now that Wooten and Bryant have
456
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,300
have entered the portal.
Well, I think we'd was going to
457
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,800
see some significant steps this
year.
458
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,600
He played pretty much every game
last year, I think it was gonna
459
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,200
pretty much be kind of the
fourth or fifth guy in that
460
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800
rotation this year.
So he would have seen a lot more
461
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,900
snaps this year, so that's going
to hurt.
462
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,800
It's going to be hard to replace
that, but, you know, I think
463
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200
he's talks about different
things that he could do
464
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800
schematically to take some of
that off.
465
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,200
One of the things he was talking
about is kind of giving.
466
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,400
Given looks priest map and
having something different that
467
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,300
he's going to show to him post.
Snap, keep the offense kind of
468
00:29:23,308 --> 00:29:24,900
on their heels and not knowing
what to expect.
469
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:29,200
But the other thing he talked
about and I think was you know
470
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800
maybe over some some folks had
some folks not so much but kind
471
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,900
of binary defense have checks.
They're essentially depending on
472
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,600
the look of the offense there's
going to be you either do this
473
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
or do that.
So not only simplifying you but
474
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,800
also still giving some
flexibility there.
475
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Depending on the look to kind of
Of bring something different to
476
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,400
the, to the offense, different
looks each time.
477
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,000
So they see something different.
So I think that was something
478
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600
that he kind of talked about.
That was, I think going to pay
479
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,600
some dividends here in the fall,
because I think the big thing
480
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,600
last year was that, I think
there was too much new and not
481
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,700
enough not enough time to really
absorb it and absorb it in the
482
00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:14,300
way that not only the be, the
how he talked about the coaching
483
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:17,400
staff, really not being 100% on.
The same page because right in
484
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,100
the middle of installing the
defense from a coaching
485
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,200
perspective, all of a sudden
you're doing that shit remotely.
486
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,100
Yeah.
And in person yet that's huge.
487
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,200
That's huge.
You remember something in this
488
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,700
is in a way similar to that he
was discussing a lot of people
489
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,200
said, why not, just go to Bud
stuff and he made the point and
490
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,100
he was like, You know I'm here,
bud stuff.
491
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,900
Maybe didn't know bud stuff.
Tracy claeys in the bud stuff,
492
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
although some people still
believe Tracy, please was on an
493
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,600
island all last year.
Maybe maybe not Kim did for me,
494
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,100
was in the locker room for the
UVA game building.
495
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:01,400
No blood stuff.
And is he made the point Darryl,
496
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,300
Clayton Bud system need to say,
you know, poke the 13 years
497
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,000
before but he never coasted and
never had to do it in a
498
00:31:10,008 --> 00:31:16,100
different way.
So, when he said that, Something
499
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:19,000
I'm going to close with your
later when he said that kind of
500
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
made more sense.
Something else he said was and
501
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,700
it really called My Arrows, you
talked about the layering levels
502
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:30,100
of the defense and he gave, but
his props saying Bud, should be
503
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,400
the first assistant coach in the
Hall of Fame.
504
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,300
Best defensive coordinator of
all time.
505
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:39,000
The system was unbelievable.
But he made the point and Brian
506
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400
me and you have been watching
for a long time and it's true.
507
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,500
Buzz defense was very high-risk
high-reward.
508
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Yep.
How many times did we give up?
509
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,900
Huge, chunk plays whether in the
passing game, or in the running
510
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,700
game, because we were either
plans, cover, zero g, and the
511
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,300
line somebody that misses a gap,
or they missed the press, the
512
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,300
one that always gets me, I
talked about a 30 minutes before
513
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:10,200
we jumped on the night.
Y'all ECU 2014, we tie the game.
514
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400
It all we got to do is it's like
a minimum 12 left.
515
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,300
I think.
If somebody like that game, let
516
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,800
me know it was it wasn't much
time left in.
517
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,700
The only thing I said is like,
the only thing we can't do, we
518
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:24,900
can't give up a huge plate.
We give up a huge play.
519
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,500
They're going to win the game.
We literally were in a cover.
520
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,700
One.
Clean press we give up an
521
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,800
over-the-top, they win.
Well they're very close game.
522
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,000
Big play.
Yeah.
523
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,500
Hey and so would you say in that
picture?
524
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
I think he's we're still going
to see some, are we going to see
525
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,700
some covers?
Rose and he's going to attack.
526
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,200
Yeah, we will see some cover
ones, but I think Ron pointed
527
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000
you made last year and this year
is We're going to see what type
528
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,200
of coverage.
I mean I think you're going to
529
00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,800
see a lot more Zone and you're
going to see a lot more zones
530
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,400
just because that's the way.
Countering buds defense was to
531
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,300
attack the defense at different
levels.
532
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:15,900
So we were fairly good at
containing, the run-in.
533
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,400
We at least had been in place to
take away the Deep stuff as long
534
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,100
as we didn't get beat, but what
you didn't have is if you know,
535
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,700
you got all those guys running
deep with the receivers and now
536
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,200
you've got a quarterback that
breaks contain and there's just
537
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,600
a big space of know.
Nothing for about 15 or 20
538
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,100
yards.
What's the Marilyn game?
539
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,200
I think the same freaking slow,
quarterback.
540
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,000
We had no one there to get
thing.
541
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,400
Like, 89 yards that game.
Yeah, we-we're big house
542
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,400
watching that game.
I think we were screaming.
543
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,100
We were upset.
But so you kind of see the
544
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,900
vision that we're going to have
levels in to me what he is.
545
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,500
He's kind of already telling
people.
546
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,800
Buddy, Robbie he wanted to keep
with that.
547
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:14,300
Yes, I agree and it wasn't from
Jake drinking the beam.
548
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,800
It was a need but what he's
saying is the modern era of
549
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,000
college football is a lot more
underneath stuff.
550
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,900
You seen you know, Airaid
Concepts in the last 15 years or
551
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,800
everybody system are a concept
RPO.
552
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,000
I mean those things are designed
to Really attack the three
553
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,900
levels of painted defense on a
given play.
554
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,300
And I think that's the thing
that we're not talking about is
555
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:45,699
that you know it's not just okay
well you know you're you're
556
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,500
stabbing short here you're
stabbing deep here I meet a
557
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,300
given playing the RPO system can
really kind of attack those
558
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,199
different levels depending on
what the read the quarterback
559
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,900
gets and what he decides to do
with football.
560
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:03,200
Yeah and as hand said that or po
stuff was essentially done to
561
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,300
counter Of the Bud Foster
defense.
562
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:06,900
And I agree with that.
All right.
563
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,100
Well, let's kick it off of J.
Hamm on the coach few, with the
564
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,300
TSL interview.
Great job by Will Stewart, and
565
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:16,900
by Chris Coleman there and food
just seems super comfortable
566
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,700
this interview and let's start
first.
567
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,100
And this is how, you know, what?
He's come from very early in
568
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:24,900
their they're talking about
recruiting Virginian house
569
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:28,800
getting better and, you know,
Landing places and the staff and
570
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,700
the focus.
He gave a shout to Smitty like
571
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:35,600
them Berg and then he said, Just
because you're from Virginia,
572
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,300
doesn't mean you can recruit
here.
573
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:42,800
We've seen that not work out
like Jesus Christ shots fired.
574
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:46,200
Yeah, I wasn't sure who that was
so tweeting, but he was
575
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,100
subtweeting somebody we're not
We're not gonna throw names out
576
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:55,700
there.
I have a feeling y'all, but you
577
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,700
see that?
And it's one of those things
578
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:00,100
that's kind of true.
Again, the winds we've had this
579
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:04,500
year in the state had been
really big and Again, the
580
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,600
Comfort level who just come out
and say that you knew was going
581
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,300
to be a good interview from
right there very early on in the
582
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,300
process.
Yeah, well I mean, what's the
583
00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:13,900
Comfort level is kind of drop
there?
584
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:17,800
And I mean, we saw the
juxtaposition with media day and
585
00:36:17,808 --> 00:36:19,500
we know that that's a different
animal.
586
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,100
And think we'll even talked
about.
587
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,900
He always seems more comfortable
in the breakouts after then the
588
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:32,400
actual fish bowl.
So yeah, just hold you don't
589
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,900
know what you're getting.
So it makes a lot.
590
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,700
A lot of sense, you know, in the
next piece that he said, Ron
591
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:42,600
that kind of we talk about is he
is reviewing or he views
592
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,600
recruiting.
Now is a two-fold approach high
593
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,300
school and the portal free
agency.
594
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:53,300
And we've talked about it before
and he talked about how they're
595
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:58,000
continuing to build the
recruiting staff and kind of
596
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,400
made it seem to me in a way that
if he's here, you're going to
597
00:37:03,408 --> 00:37:05,300
essentially You guys in war
brand.
598
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,600
These are our high school, this
is the portal.
599
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,200
Yeah, and I have a feeling
through the portal staff, will
600
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,400
probably be in charge of talking
to guys on the roster.
601
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
That's the way it goes.
But I like that concept.
602
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Yeah.
And I liked our approach a
603
00:37:23,207 --> 00:37:30,000
little bit more this off season
than last only because While,
604
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,700
you know, going out for some big
fish to feel fill the holes that
605
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,700
you have on your roster like
Landing a read or Landing
606
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:41,200
Blackshear in a Herbert.
I prefer if we're going into the
607
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,500
portal to kind of be more of a
depth move with potential to be
608
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,600
a starter.
Not, we're counting on you to be
609
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,700
the guy or we're up shits Creek.
So, if we're going to use the
610
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,500
portal and use it, well, I think
that's the way we need to keep
611
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:06,100
continue to continue to work
because we can't book on finding
612
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,000
starter level and potentially
Star level talent in the portal
613
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,300
every year.
Yeah to buoy our team.
614
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:19,400
So you know getting getting at a
daily you know getting a bob
615
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Shake.
I know he was a Juco but when
616
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,300
Williams yeah this kind of that
more of a car.
617
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:32,500
Or Johnny, I mean, I think
that's the type of players you
618
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:36,100
need to be bringing in.
Not, we're bringing in her red
619
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:40,000
and black sheer and if one of
those two don't bust, we're in
620
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,400
big trouble.
So I like this approach better
621
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,100
and it also means that you have
to focus on doing the recruiting
622
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,100
the high school, recruiting the
right way.
623
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:53,200
And so I think we're seeing some
of the benefits of that come
624
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
through as well.
Yeah I mean to me I think you
625
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,400
have to look the portal.
I want to say say similar to how
626
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,300
the more well ran in FL
organizations are the guys you
627
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,500
recruit are the guys you want to
be on the bed, you want to be
628
00:39:10,508 --> 00:39:13,200
your stars.
But you know, there's going to
629
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,100
be guys who just are buried on
the depth chart and eventually
630
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,400
say, I just need to get on the
field.
631
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,300
I'm probably good enough to play
at other institutions and I've
632
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:24,700
got to go there because I need
to show.
633
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,600
Take in the NFL is you look to
go duck.
634
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:38,300
Still out there.
Let's jump over this, I think
635
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:43,100
after everything that happened,
not shocking, you know, Wulfric.
636
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:48,600
Renee, the, you know, tight end
recruit last year from France is
637
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,900
switched over.
Officially it's actually updated
638
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,600
on the Hokey website today,
which is shocking because
639
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,800
apparently they're timely
updates, only updates.
640
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
There's I love to see move
positions that still have not
641
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,400
been so I don't think this is a
shock, but a couple things that
642
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:12,100
coach food talked about was A
the athleticism of Wilfred but
643
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:17,700
the other was the story of
literally what 16 he comes from
644
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:22,400
France, over.
He doesn't speak a lick of
645
00:40:22,408 --> 00:40:24,700
English.
Learns, English goes to a
646
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,900
Preparatory Academy and
Connecticut.
647
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:34,800
And you know, any said kind of
the way I got it wasn't like if
648
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,700
this kid had been an
american-born kid his
649
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,700
recruitment would have been
significantly higher.
650
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Yeah all those not red flags but
what do you call them?
651
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Ron I mean barriers.
I think they are probably the
652
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,700
best way to say it.
Yeah.
653
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:57,100
That there were barriers to his
Recruitment and you know we're
654
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,500
talking about a player here that
is versatile.
655
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,100
So I mean you like to see that
you like to see versatile
656
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,500
players this roster in general,
has been moving to more
657
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,000
versatile players.
We see how we're recruiting,
658
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,900
we're seeing it how we're
deploying, I've still
659
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:16,700
offensively still wanting to See
more of that.
660
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:22,900
But that's I digress him
switching over to defensive end,
661
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:24,500
his big.
Not only because of the holes
662
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:29,300
that we have created with some
transfers and things like that.
663
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:33,200
But also we get to see this
guy's athleticism because we do
664
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,600
have some other tight end depth
that he's not he probably wasn't
665
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
going to see significant snaps
this year, he can help us on
666
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
defensive end.
He said he wasn't necessarily
667
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,600
done at tight end but the need
position going into 2021 is
668
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,500
going to be defensive end.
So I'm looking forward to see
669
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:52,900
what he's able to do.
Since he does have some
670
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,700
experience there.
This isn't Ana.
671
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,800
Mari bar.
No situation where he's picking
672
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,500
the position up from from ground
zero.
673
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:04,200
So hopefully he jumps into fall
camp and finds a good roll.
674
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:07,000
Oh yeah, definitely an
experience there and High School
675
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,100
in his last season there while
playing been both ways, forty
676
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:15,600
seven, tackles 15 and a half
sacks, 11 tackles for loss three
677
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,500
forced fumbles and he blocked
the punt.
678
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600
And he also the big piece of lot
of people were, you know, a lot
679
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,400
of people mentioned how excited
they were about him.
680
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,500
Was he wrestled?
And usually when you hear a
681
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:33,200
wrestler, you think more defense
and offense so I think it's a
682
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,300
great chance for him.
Maybe the potential, you know
683
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,800
what the guy sees working with
on that line, the experience
684
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,600
with pricing tier Only maybe to
take steps like Barna did last
685
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,300
year under tap and chairlift so
we don't know.
686
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:52,000
We can only hope.
All right.
687
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,700
Also, did you notice when he
talked about that the laughs
688
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,500
came out?
Yeah.
689
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Anytime he simply life, you
know, he's comfortable as well.
690
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:05,500
All right, I got the roster up
here.
691
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,600
Braun.
All right.
692
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,500
Pull it up.
Tell me we got, okay.
693
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:12,600
He mentioned, first of all,
there's 37,000 running.
694
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,400
Acts on our team, there's three
running backs who have a
695
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,900
potential freshman, running back
to have potential to play this
696
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:22,100
year and I'm going through here
a, there's so many of them.
697
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,200
Who do you think he's talking
about?
698
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Give me, give me one name that
you would say that guy could
699
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:34,900
probably play this year.
Oh man, Bronson Alcott.
700
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:38,900
Thomas I'd say Kenji has the
best chance to get into the
701
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,400
rotation and a lot of that's
going to depend on somebody else
702
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,700
for probably going to talk about
and that's going to be key.
703
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:51,500
Sean King.
When she if Keshawn King he said
704
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,400
he's still working on his
consistency.
705
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,100
If Keshawn King is consistent
the more likely those freshmen
706
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:02,900
are going to see less time
because he mentioned Jalen, he
707
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,100
mentioned Rahim Blackshear but I
think ringing blacks years going
708
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:09,000
to be working as much in the
slot if as he is in the
709
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,900
backfield.
So this is going to do in terms
710
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,600
of being the number two guy.
The guy that's getting the spell
711
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,700
carries.
The guy that's getting Anal
712
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,200
carries its down to Keyshawn
King, depending on where we are
713
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,300
on the field.
Marco Lee, probably in short
714
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:28,600
yardage situations and then one
or two of those freshman's that
715
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,300
step up.
I'm thinking it will be Kenji.
716
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,700
Yeah, he mentioned Marco.
He's ready play this year.
717
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,000
He's had last year.
It was a combination of learning
718
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,500
The Playbook, plus being in
physical shape.
719
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,900
The key thing you mentioned it.
He, I think he said this every
720
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:45,800
year about king or least last
year's to consistency key
721
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Chongqing, you know, We've seen
him make some eye-opening plays
722
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,900
and then just kind of go away
Ron.
723
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,000
I swear to God if they run Rahim
Blackshear, like they did last
724
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,800
year, you're going to go to
Blacksburg.
725
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
We're going to stand it.
Marry a man with big signs and
726
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,500
you're going to write on their
black share is not a primary
727
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,600
running back.
Stop it.
728
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,400
I mean, if you're calling plays
that consistently get him.
729
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,100
I'm outside the tackles or the
ball in the passing game in
730
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,800
space, I have no problem with
it.
731
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,500
If you're telling me you're
gonna run inside Zone with them,
732
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:30,200
you know, five six times in a
row, I'm gonna scratch my head
733
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,900
and look at you, like, you got
the whole in your own head?
734
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,300
Yeah, I mean, like, it's just it
doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
735
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,000
I like Ricky Blackshear but he
does not have the between the
736
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,600
tackles Vision that especially
Herbert had last year, but I
737
00:45:45,607 --> 00:45:49,400
think in particular, That you're
looking for in terms of
738
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:55,100
consistency, but he does have
really good Vision in space.
739
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
So you want to get him outside
the tackles, you want to get him
740
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,900
the ball in space.
You want to throw the ball to
741
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:05,200
him from the slot.
You don't necessarily just want
742
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000
to line him up and run, Dives
and insides up.
743
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:10,500
Yeah, we have plenty of running
backs.
744
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,400
We need, although somehow David.
He'll put us one-eyed, receiver
745
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,900
tight end, combo.
I'm still trying to figure that
746
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:23,500
out but how my wide receivers he
mentioned that the Wayne Loft
747
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:30,100
and Jalen Jonas studs, Coach
Fuente, if they are studs then I
748
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,500
should see them on the field
significantly this year.
749
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,700
If they are not on the field,
choose your words better or
750
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,000
figure out what's going on the
offensive side of the ball while
751
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,700
they're not there.
Because now after hearing
752
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,800
Braxton earlier today in an
interview Braxton this offseason
753
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,200
have been working a lot with
Trey pay Danes Mitchell.
754
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Heme and Jayden and Caleb.
That's a good core that, but if
755
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,700
you're saying those two guys are
studs, also come back Jay.
756
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:08,800
A second downright was killing
us in scout team last year.
757
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,800
Braun, you being you talked
about it and you were like
758
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,400
killing you.
Also.
759
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,700
Why?
Well I said, I said, you know,
760
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,800
whether he was killing or not.
I mean we had trouble.
761
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,100
Getting changa Hodge the ball
for whatever reason last year,
762
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,800
how we going to get daylan,
right?
763
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,900
The ball as well.
So that was my frustration.
764
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,300
I don't think we necessarily
lack Talent on that side of the
765
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:35,400
ball.
I think we need to be better at
766
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,200
getting separation and I think
we need to be better about
767
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:44,500
getting the ball to our players.
That can make plays because we
768
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:47,400
got some athletes out there
especially, you know, some of
769
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,300
the guys we got Jaden, pay you
coming back.
770
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:53,400
I'm looking really forward to
seeing what he can do in this
771
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,700
offense, because I mean, that
speed is an X Factor in that
772
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,100
athleticism.
Even if he's still not quite the
773
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
crisp route, Runner that we want
him to be, we need someone that
774
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,100
can just take the top off
stretch, the defense gets
775
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,500
separation from athletic,
cornerbacks And I think he can
776
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,500
be that guy for us.
So, I'm looking forward to what
777
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,900
to see what they can do.
But I'm not, I'm not David Hale
778
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:24,300
here and thinking that we are
Crushing the wide receiver game
779
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:28,100
either.
I think we have a a solid front
780
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,500
front.
Few skill guys.
781
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,400
And then a lot of guys that have
talent but are unproven.
782
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,000
Yeah absolutely.
He also addressed the offensive
783
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,800
line, you know he mentioned kind
of mentioned Tyrell, Smith is
784
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,800
going to get some probably get
the first run at right, tackle
785
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000
with Silas being a pretty good
position for Right Guard.
786
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,700
But then as he's talking, he let
something slip.
787
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,400
Ron, you had some slip, he said,
well, you know, broccoli, Garden
788
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:01,100
tackle and grime, probably went
Guard and tackle a.
789
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:08,900
Yeah I mean and obviously we
don't want to be in a situation
790
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,700
where we need to play Brock and
Tackle but if Brock is the best
791
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,900
tackle, we have you play
Brockett tackle, that's my
792
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:18,800
opinion.
I want my best.
793
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Five linemen on the field.
Whatever my best five
794
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:27,000
combination is, I want them on
the field and if that happens to
795
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,900
be Brock Hoffman at right
tackle, Well, so be it obviously
796
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:34,000
that's not ideal.
Nobody wants to be in that
797
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,300
scenario.
So I think a lot of this is
798
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,200
going to depend on what we get,
how quickly Bob.
799
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,600
She could pick up the tackle
position, knowing what we have
800
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,200
in Parker Clements once.
Those things start to flesh out
801
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,700
a little bit then I think we
will know if that he's even an
802
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:57,200
option something that's on the
table but until then and I know
803
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,500
we talked about Tyrell coming
back.
804
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,900
As well.
So once we kind of see how those
805
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,500
three ShakeOut I guess, that's
when Brock would probably come
806
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:12,600
in the in the picture there but
You know, as I said, I want my
807
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
best best five combination out
there, so if that ends up being
808
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,000
brachot tackle.
So be it.
809
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,800
I'm really hoping about three
weeks from now, he announces the
810
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,700
starters, on the line, You know,
I really hope that's done
811
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,800
because I think for us, I want
to vision of foods out there,
812
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,800
and it's a way to nitpick.
Yes, from the talk about, but
813
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:39,200
you get an idea because we're
him when I'm saying that, and
814
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,200
then I'm kind of inferring that
Silas kind of had Right Guard
815
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,300
lockdown.
It makes you feel a little
816
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:47,900
better because then you see the
death build a little bit, will
817
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:52,100
Johnny, I'll be back up Center.
Rocking kick to tackle org or
818
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,500
whatever way we need in more
depth, which is our biggest
819
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,600
concern on the line.
Not necessarily the first
820
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,900
starting five for starting five.
We feel good about.
821
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,200
All right, bro.
So if you feel good about Brock
822
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,000
and you feel good about Silas,
then that gives you more of a
823
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,600
swing.
Yes, you do.
824
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,200
Because at least then you feel
better about, okay, well, if we
825
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,400
need to move rock out, we've got
a solid core here and then you
826
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,600
still got a couple guys behind
them that you would Least feel
827
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,000
somewhat okay about in
especially Kate more sounds like
828
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,500
he had a pretty good pretty good
spring as well.
829
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:35,200
So Absolutely, you're the end of
the interview with welcome Chris
830
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,000
talked about favorite movies and
Brian.
831
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
I know this one super close to
your heart.
832
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:47,000
Talked about favorite movie
Shawshank Redemption that is you
833
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,100
as long as I'm on you that's
been here jamming and I'll
834
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:55,500
shake, you can never go wrong
with with Shawshank.
835
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:59,100
I mean, you got your, Stephen
King writing, the short story
836
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,300
Rita, In the Shawshank
Redemption.
837
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Shout out Stephen King.
And then, I mean, The movie that
838
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,400
started Morgan Freeman as the
narrator.
839
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Yes.
And he was unbelievable in it.
840
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,900
He and Tim Robbins.
Just the story in general.
841
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,000
It's one of those that, if it's
on, you can.
842
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,300
If you have probably seen it
more than 10 times, you've
843
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:27,600
probably seen in more than 50.
Is that a lie?
844
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,700
I mean, there was a time where I
was like watching it like once a
845
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:34,200
month.
All right, so he only closer to
846
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,000
100 bucks.
Well, it's again.
847
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,700
Now the other one.
Talked about Pulp Fiction.
848
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:46,800
I mean, Just that entire movie
is great.
849
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:48,600
I mean there's just so many
moments there.
850
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:54,000
So many lines.
I mean he was Tarantino just
851
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,400
pulling his dick out and saying
we're doing this.
852
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,500
And I mean, it was a it was a,
it was a fun ride and it seems
853
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,100
like food really likes movies
made in 1994.
854
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,100
He was only missing the Forest
Gump for the trifecta of the
855
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:14,900
1995, Oscar Oscar, run their of
like the big From that years.
856
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,300
So He's very true.
Actually.
857
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:23,700
I go back and you think 1994.
I mean, obviously, those movies
858
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:29,600
were unbelievable.
I mean, you know, by the way,
859
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,600
another, this is just, this goes
back to us being kids with Dumb
860
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,600
and Dumber was 94 to.
I, like the original three-year,
861
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,700
not 94, is a great year really
great year for.
862
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,200
I don't even think I'd say,
Question on it man I want to
863
00:53:47,207 --> 00:53:50,800
close this out.
With one thing these interviews
864
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
were great.
These interviews are great.
865
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,400
These interviews were six months
too late.
866
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
And we we focused a lot on.
What's Happening Now?
867
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,200
J, Hamm gave some of the back
story of how he got to Virginia
868
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,400
Tech, who gave some little peek
behind the curtain.
869
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Look behind the curtain.
What was going on?
870
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,400
Especially the covid-19 were
talking about, we had nobody at
871
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,500
Camp.
Yep we're contact.
872
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:26,100
Traced if this had been said six
months ago after with keeps him
873
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:31,500
after they talk I think a lot of
us would sit here and say, hey
874
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:33,700
wait a minute for eight weeks of
Camp.
875
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:36,700
You like had no bodies, you
couldn't essentially install
876
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:41,200
what you wanted to install on
your side of the ball, and then
877
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,600
obviously some of the stuff
taking place during the season.
878
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,600
The Christina Garnett has said,
it numerous time we are
879
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,400
bringing, so piss-poor, public
relations.
880
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:00,300
This should, this should become,
this should become a staple in
881
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:05,500
February.
For them, a staple sit down P.
882
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,400
SL, sit down with whoever,
you're comfortable with and
883
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,700
shoot, the breeze for 90
minutes.
884
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:14,400
Well, I think the, I think the
problem is that, you know, let's
885
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,000
go back.
To access in general.
886
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:19,200
True.
It's true, you're not
887
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,400
communicating with us.
You don't get the benefit of the
888
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,300
doubt. .
And I think that that's part of
889
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,500
the problem and sometimes it's
too little too late.
890
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,800
If you get out in front of
things this is I mean this is PR
891
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,700
shit that Christina was talking
about.
892
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:42,300
This is if you get out in front
of things or you talk about
893
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:46,000
things with people.
You spread more Goodwill.
894
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,800
People are more willing to give
you the benefit of the doubt or
895
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:55,500
give you a little bit of leash,
but devoid of that people make
896
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,400
up their own stories, people
make up their own minds, and
897
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,700
there's nothing to prove them
wrong.
898
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,500
There's no, there's no other
counter information out there.
899
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,900
So you're letting someone else,
write the narrative, whether
900
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:12,100
that's true or not.
You're forfeiting your your
901
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:16,200
version of the story.
It's true, man.
902
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,100
And that's one thing that they
have got to understand.
903
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,000
They've got to have people in
there telling them get in front
904
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:28,000
of it, pulp about it because we
would have probably had a lot of
905
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:33,300
empathy especially the training
camp shit, man, because that's
906
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,400
insane to think we can.
You have little to nobody there.
907
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,300
All right guys, before we get
into name image and likeness and
908
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,100
the playoff taught, we're going
to take it.
909
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:47,800
Quick pause for a message from
our digital partners.
910
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:17,100
Alright guys, so next up here,
we are going to be looking at
911
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,500
naming image and likeness.
It is big.
912
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:22,700
It is here, it ain't no going
back.
913
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,400
They ain't much governance to it
right now.
914
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:31,500
But Brian, I'm just being real.
You are how too late is this?
915
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,100
When should this shit had
released artist 2021?
916
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,300
What's your opponent?
You started?
917
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:43,000
The NCAA should have beginnig of
Gun talking about this and
918
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,700
starting to write the rules of
this a decade ago there, at
919
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:52,900
least five years, late,
implementing it and they drag
920
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:54,800
their feet, they waited for the
state.
921
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,200
So they wanted the conference's
to step up on their own instead
922
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,600
of doing it themselves as they
should, there needs to be a
923
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
unified system.
You can't let each conference
924
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,100
write their own bylaws.
When you are under a governing
925
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,200
body already.
D, it's stupid.
926
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:18,200
Number two.
So they wait, they wait, they
927
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
drag their feet state starts.
Passing shit, people start,
928
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,200
suing them.
People start, suing the states.
929
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,300
He gets all the way to
Congressional hearings and they
930
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,800
get completely raked over the
dam.
931
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,400
Coals by democrats Republicans
and everyone in between.
932
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,300
It's like one of the few damn
things that both sides have
933
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:44,000
agreed on in the past five years
was that the NCAA completely
934
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,400
stepped in shit on this?
So now that they've been called
935
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,100
out by that and now that other
states are putting things in
936
00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:56,800
place and those are going live
effective July 1st.
937
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,700
The NCAA says, alright, any
state that has rules?
938
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:05,000
You follow those any ones that
don't hear some very fucking
939
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,400
loose guidelines to go by until
we decide what this actually
940
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,900
should look like.
Yeah, to me you say 10 years ago
941
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,900
and they should have started.
The writing was on the wall to
942
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,900
me.
About five years before that,
943
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:23,400
mid-2000s early 2000's when you
had go back to Mike Vick and
944
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,400
think about him as a person and
then look at the Miami teams and
945
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,100
then you have bench young and
you had the USC teams and then
946
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:33,100
the Gators teams right there.
That's what it should have been
947
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,500
Jesus.
If these guys had something they
948
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:40,600
can make a lot of money in its
eventually some it's going to
949
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,200
break through in some way.
So really probably 20 years ago
950
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
is when they really started
thinking about it.
951
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,000
And then 15 years ago, riding
loss of ten years ago was in but
952
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,500
they completely screwed it up.
Yeah.
953
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,900
Hello late.
But I mean, I'm going to say
954
00:59:55,900 --> 01:00:02,300
this, I am all for this being in
place awful because you've been
955
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,100
for a while.
I've been I've been on record
956
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:06,700
here.
I've been on record on Twitter.
957
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:10,700
I've been on record at the
barbecue on Saturday, or Sunday,
958
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:19,800
if you can't go out there, and
Use your abilities to make money
959
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,900
off of your own brand or your
own abilities.
960
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Like what everybody else gets to
do that?
961
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:34,300
I mean, We had there was there
was people that couldn't even
962
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:39,300
sell a t-shirt, that they made,
even if it had nothing to do
963
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,500
with football.
Nothing like they couldn't sell
964
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:46,000
fucking T-shirts because the
NCAA says, no can't do that.
965
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:52,200
Like it's just ludicrous shit.
And I mean that, you know,
966
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,100
whether whether you want to get
on board with players having
967
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,200
agents and all that stuff, you
know, they should always have.
968
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:01,400
Been able to use their
abilities.
969
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
Like everybody else that's on
scholarship in every other
970
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:09,400
situation at the University to
use whatever talents they have
971
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,700
while they're there to
capitalize on their abilities.
972
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,800
True, man.
There's no reason not to anybody
973
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:23,500
else and be like anything.
So I mean, but it's very
974
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:27,700
unfortunate that the NCAA drag
their feet.
975
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:29,900
It's unfortunate that they're
not right now.
976
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:34,500
Taking responsibility, I would
have rather them Rush something
977
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,700
together in the two weeks they
had.
978
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,800
Then just said, all right.
Have fun.
979
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,800
It's like they put no effort
into it and they also take no
980
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,700
responsibility and they're not
going to take responsibility for
981
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:49,700
any ramifications that come from
it.
982
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,900
Oh no.
It's just facts, man.
983
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,500
They're not taking any of it.
And I mean for what they strike
984
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,000
called him out in the interview
said, they just planted this.
985
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,400
They punted this to the state.
They find this new schools in
986
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,500
the kids and it's going more and
more of what is the NCAA even
987
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:13,100
here for What are they here for?
And it's coming to a point
988
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,400
especially with the OU Texas
news coming out.
989
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:21,800
And, you know, Jim Phillips
saying yesterday in that
990
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
interview we are 15 team
conference.
991
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:32,100
And it's like to me, I think the
power 5 for football, maybe not
992
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,900
for everything.
I think in the next 10 years,
993
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:42,400
the power 5 and maybe even the
f.c. or FBS as a whole might
994
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,600
just break off and say bleep
them, we don't need them.
995
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:49,500
We've got conferences, we have
governing bodies.
996
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:53,600
Here we can elect a president of
our organization and we can run
997
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,300
I think it's heading towards
that because they don't do
998
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:01,400
anything they don't and then
when they, when they do
999
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,600
something that's more, well he
can't be eligible this year
1000
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,800
because he's three miles outside
the range and you're like, are
1001
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,700
for fuck's sake.
Are you kidding me?
1002
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:14,000
But JT, Daniels, can transfer to
Georgia.
1003
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,500
So, with no questions asked,
it's like they're free.
1004
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:23,400
Worthless.
I mean they've been worthless
1005
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,300
you know the the picking and
choosing of wind to put in
1006
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:31,800
sanctions and when to penalize a
not penalize and band and not
1007
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:40,300
ban, it's very selective.
It feels very at best haphazard
1008
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:49,500
at worst preferential to certain
institutions and just there
1009
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,100
There's no consistency with the
application of the rules.
1010
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,300
There's rarely any enforcement
of the rules.
1011
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,200
And at some point, you got to
say, what the fuck are you
1012
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,100
actually doing?
They don't know what they're
1013
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,400
doing other than making a lot of
money.
1014
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:10,100
That's it.
They're making a lot of money
1015
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:14,600
for themselves.
More inward salary asinine and
1016
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,500
and now because of them not
taking responsibility grunting,
1017
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:22,400
it not jumping on this, a decade
ago, I mean it's the Wild Wild
1018
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,700
West right now.
It's the Wild Wild West again,
1019
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,100
they've let they for the states
that didn't actually put
1020
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:37,400
something in place.
It's, it's become very much the
1021
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,800
while last for the states that
did put something in place.
1022
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,800
Now, they're up against.
Can we can we enforce it should
1023
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,500
the NCAA enforce it, who's
enforcing it?
1024
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:49,300
If, if some other if the other
states are doing it, should we
1025
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:52,500
even care whether we enforce it
or not.
1026
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,800
If they're still within whatever
the NCAA governing body rule.
1027
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:02,900
Like it's a very loose like when
I was thinking of this being in
1028
01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:05,300
place I was like, okay well
they'll take Take you know a
1029
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:09,100
year or two to come up with what
this needs to look like and you
1030
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,500
know, a bunch of different eyes
from people across the country
1031
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,500
and different backgrounds and
all that stuff.
1032
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:17,000
We'll have a look at this before
it goes into place and agents
1033
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,700
will get to weigh in on it and
like there are so many people
1034
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:26,100
that need to have some sort of
commentary on this before we
1035
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,800
threw it out there now and I
wanted it to start as soon as it
1036
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:34,200
should but it's solely in the
NCAA in.
1037
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,100
It's in their court, that this
is going the way it going and
1038
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,500
and kudos to the athletes
because they're, they're getting
1039
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:45,100
paid based on their abilities
based on their marketability,
1040
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:49,400
based on their brand, their
image and, you know, kudos to
1041
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,600
them.
I know saving was talking about
1042
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,500
the, the quarterback that really
hasn't played very much at this
1043
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,700
point.
Maybe it's not rice, young
1044
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,700
getting close to a million in
close to it, close to a mil.
1045
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,600
And that's 8 plus figure.
So yes, I mean that's crazy to
1046
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,200
think.
He's gonna get some plus figures
1047
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,300
and he's not, he's not stepped
foot on the field.
1048
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:14,000
He's just the Alabama
quarterback.
1049
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,400
Now I find it like him, go get
the money.
1050
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,200
Make sure you get a tax attorney
because you will need one of the
1051
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,400
million dollars because every
legal entity Alabama, state
1052
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,300
governments also hate to tell
him this, if you're playing in
1053
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,600
the states of Mississippi
endorsing, anything Georgia,
1054
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,900
Florida.
Wherever you play, those states
1055
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:38,800
are probably going to come after
you for their tax money.
1056
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,900
Especially if you do something
or say something, while you're
1057
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:45,300
on that state and then there's
the federal, so, probably young.
1058
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:50,100
Make sure you get a good
accountant because if not, I do
1059
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:51,700
not want to see you getting
hauled away.
1060
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:55,400
I don't see anybody getting
hauled away to jail for the
1061
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,700
season starts next year, for tax
evasion because somebody didn't
1062
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:01,400
pay your taxes for you.
And that's why you need to trust
1063
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,500
your agent because your agent is
the person that can kind of
1064
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,000
guide you through.
Under this thing.
1065
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:09,500
Yes, but let's you, and you feel
like most of these schools, we
1066
01:07:09,508 --> 01:07:12,600
know the Hokies have their
program started up for these
1067
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,700
guys that they're going to them.
They're getting the advice that
1068
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,300
they need.
But Brian, you saw something
1069
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:22,000
North Carolina's?
Doing you said, Virginia Tech
1070
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,600
needs to start that ASAP.
I mean, yeah, they partner with
1071
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,500
the LifeStream group, to use
unc's, official, trademark and
1072
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:33,800
logo in conjunction with name
image, and likeness
1073
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:37,500
opportunities for Collegiate
athletes.
1074
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,500
So that's essentially not
necessarily directly.
1075
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,700
Representing the university but
using the university related
1076
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:53,200
trademark and logo in relation
to what they're doing, Michigan
1077
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,800
I think followed suit with
something very similar.
1078
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,700
I mean, like I said, we're
really in the early stages here
1079
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:02,500
and some of this is going to be,
all right, we're going to push
1080
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:05,100
these boundaries as far as we
can push them and then see what
1081
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:07,900
happens.
And I think we're in that
1082
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:14,000
boundary-pushing territory right
now and Robbie in our comments
1083
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,100
here, brings up a good point and
Foo actually talked about this
1084
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:21,700
during his discussion relating
to name image and likeness.
1085
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:26,500
But, you know, worrying about
whether whether the name image
1086
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:30,300
of like, the stuff will get in
the way of preparation or yeah.
1087
01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:32,600
Doing the right things from
football perspective.
1088
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,500
And he said I, you know, I hope
that the that what we're doing
1089
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,500
isn't going to impact, how
we're, how we're going about our
1090
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:43,000
business.
There's and I think, as long as
1091
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,500
everyone's doing what they need
to do outside of the preparation
1092
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:50,300
that they've been doing
previously, this will go off.
1093
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:55,300
Well, yeah.
And I'm hoping that that it does
1094
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:59,100
because like I said, I think
it's been a long time coming.
1095
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:05,600
And I'm just sad at this point
that the NCAA didn't take any
1096
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,700
more responsibility in rolling
this out in a way that I think
1097
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:13,500
would have helped the players
and the institutions with a lot
1098
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,600
of uncertainty.
Let me ask you this brand
1099
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,300
because you made the point there
about does it interfere?
1100
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:22,500
Does it interfere with classes
because it interfere with your
1101
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:24,700
practice schedules?
You're lifting schedules your
1102
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:30,700
team meetings etc etc really.
The classes are important.
1103
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,500
That's going to also be a thing.
If a guy gets you can't play
1104
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,200
this week.
Why you haven't went to class
1105
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,899
all year.
There he is.
1106
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:42,200
Here essentially academically
ineligible but let me ask you
1107
01:09:42,207 --> 01:09:43,600
this front.
Do you think there's any
1108
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,899
animosity into the locker room
Bryce is about to get a million
1109
01:09:46,899 --> 01:09:51,100
dollars endorsements?
And let's say, the guy
1110
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,000
protecting him on the left side
is got 20,000.
1111
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,800
And sitting here.
Look at him saying dude, if I
1112
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,300
don't do my job, they'd cream,
you, you break your leg.
1113
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:05,200
You never play again.
Hmm, maybe I should just slip on
1114
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,200
this one slide step.
I don't think that'll happen,
1115
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:12,100
but you see animosity in size a
locker, or what do you think,
1116
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,700
Brian?
I don't think so.
1117
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,200
And I'm gonna mention a couple
scenarios here.
1118
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,500
The first is, I mean, there's
already have and have-nots in
1119
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:24,400
the locker room.
Anybody that says, there isn't
1120
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:26,000
is kidding themselves.
Elves.
1121
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,200
I mean, whether it's favorites,
whether their star players
1122
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,900
versus, you know, guys that are
more role players on the team.
1123
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:36,000
I mean there's already a pecking
order to some degree in a locker
1124
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,700
room.
Some people just, you know, they
1125
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:41,500
know their roles, they do their
job, and they don't care about
1126
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:44,800
it and sometimes things like
that or why people have been
1127
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,000
transferring to other other
programs so that shit's already
1128
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,100
there.
Number two, I want to say this
1129
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:57,300
about Braxton Burmeister Trying
to get his offensive lineman
1130
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:01,900
some, some free food for naming.
Would you like - that's the type
1131
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:03,400
of shit?
I like there's gonna be
1132
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,300
camaraderie.
The people that are the star
1133
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:09,800
players, they're going to
recognize and call out those
1134
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,700
guys that maybe more unsung.
And I think that's going to help
1135
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:18,100
this situation.
Whether it's even, just even if
1136
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:20,700
it's just the call that even if
nothing comes from it, the fact
1137
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:24,300
that they're, you know, the
appreciation is being shown, I
1138
01:11:24,308 --> 01:11:28,200
think is something But also, if
things do come from and I think
1139
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,700
it's kind of a, hey, well we've
got these stars.
1140
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:34,700
But you know, there's some other
guys here that are big part of
1141
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:37,800
why we're doing what we're doing
and how we're having success on
1142
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,900
the football field.
It's true.
1143
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,600
Are we going to create unbalance
is football going to be way up
1144
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000
here and every other sport will
be way down here.
1145
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:55,400
Are you think it's going to be?
Because I don't think it's gonna
1146
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,600
be that way.
I think it is going to be
1147
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,300
individual.
Yeah, yours is gymnastics girls
1148
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:02,700
that she's making more Bryce is
right now.
1149
01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:06,300
Yeah, I think it's that there's
not going to be in balance in
1150
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:12,600
terms of how like I think you
need to be wary of what role
1151
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,100
boosters have in the Aspect of
it necessarily.
1152
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:21,200
But in terms of The Haves and
have-nots, I mean, bags of
1153
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,600
already been dropped for getting
kids to come places under the
1154
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200
table.
I think what you're going to
1155
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,500
see.
I think Fuente you actually
1156
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,900
talked about a little bit, you
know, he essentially says the
1157
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:34,400
pine nuts, the pie isn't going
to get bigger, it's just going
1158
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,700
to get spread directly some of
its going to get spread directly
1159
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,000
to the kids, which could impact
the university to a degree.
1160
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,400
But I think there's going to be
because being a booster is
1161
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,000
getting redefined right now,
right?
1162
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,400
Yes it is.
So while I agree that some of
1163
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,700
the money that from the big-time
guys, instead of going directly
1164
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:59,100
to the university might get, put
into directly to the players.
1165
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:02,200
For some, a manager, like this
things, I think you're going to
1166
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,300
see more smaller folks, step up,
that hadn't necessarily been
1167
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:10,400
giving to the university or only
we're giving a little bit to the
1168
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,600
university, start to give more
because they can give more To an
1169
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,400
individual that they feels like
not only you know, they feel
1170
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:24,200
like represents their school
well but also that can do you
1171
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,900
know good things for their
business bring people to their
1172
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:28,900
business.
So I think there's things you
1173
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:31,000
know the mutual relationship is
still there.
1174
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:33,400
Yep.
Absolutely.
1175
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,900
In you know you talk about
imbalance.
1176
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:40,500
I mean I think what's going to
happen particularly actually in
1177
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:44,900
all scores I think you're going
to see people like you know
1178
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:48,700
thing about Jadeveon Clowney.
He's a sophomore.
1179
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:51,400
He should sit out as year.
What's probably going to start
1180
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,900
happening?
Is you're going to got to have
1181
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:56,500
guys who are this?
Guy's a first-round, pick no
1182
01:13:56,500 --> 01:14:01,100
matter what there's going to be
companies coming in to get them.
1183
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,800
Onboard before they leave
College.
1184
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,600
And that's going to happen in
probably.
1185
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,500
Football men's basketball
baseball to a lesser extent.
1186
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:16,100
Some of the track and field
athletes on both men's and
1187
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:20,700
women's, you know, because then
they don't, we like we can do
1188
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,600
this.
Like, who's the swimmer girl?
1189
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,900
She was at Stanford, you know,
I'm talking about Katie.
1190
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:28,500
Ledecky.
Okay.
1191
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:32,300
Becky at Stanford, right.
Not an amateur at.
1192
01:14:32,300 --> 01:14:36,900
It's weirder with Olympics, but
now it's almost Because we have
1193
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:40,400
this rule.
If this was four years ago after
1194
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,400
what she did, and then she went
to Stanford Kayla day, Kiwi, be
1195
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:47,800
a multi-millionaire by them.
She might already be, but
1196
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,500
there's that opportunity.
Unbelievable track star goes to
1197
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,300
Florida, he's going to be in the
hundred meters.
1198
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,200
We're going to go ahead and give
them a bunch of money because we
1199
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,100
want him to promote our product.
So I think across all lines of
1200
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,300
sports is going to help and
wherever you go, it's going to
1201
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:05,400
be the athlete.
It's not going to be necessarily
1202
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:10,000
where they go.
Well, I think also because, you
1203
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,400
know, we talked about the
imbalance, but I think in some
1204
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,300
ways, this levels the playing
field because you can now build
1205
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:19,800
a Collegiate image anywhere.
Yeah.
1206
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,700
You don't need a blue blood
program or a program.
1207
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:26,100
That's going to the playoff
every year or all that.
1208
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:28,700
You don't need that to build a
brand before.
1209
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:33,900
You can go pro, you can now
build your brand within any
1210
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:36,600
University as long as they have,
you know, some sort of decent
1211
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:39,700
and foundation.
So in that way, it does level
1212
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:43,300
the playing field in my opinion
because, you know, you can go to
1213
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:46,800
a Virginia Tech and and build
your brand and it'd be, it'd be
1214
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,000
something that's, you know, kind
of a national or least as a
1215
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,600
regional brand.
Yeah, big deal before before you
1216
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,300
leave College.
You don't have to go to a
1217
01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:00,500
Clemson, or an Alabama, or an
Ohio State, or an Oklahoma to do
1218
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:03,100
that anymore.
Very true, very true.
1219
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,500
Hi Brian.
We've been talking about doing
1220
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:09,300
this.
This six months, hahaha
1221
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,800
playoffs, playoffs.
First of all, we need to get the
1222
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:19,200
attorneys on the phone because
clearly The cfp committee
1223
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,000
somehow hacked, some of our
conversations for the last old
1224
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,600
by Design, you son of a bitch.
Jenna least old friends design,
1225
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,100
I'm not gonna I'm not kidding
like Brian had talked probably
1226
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:38,500
2019, maybe 2018.
Yeah, it was as early as 2018,
1227
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:42,100
you were like 12.
And I was like nasty 6 and
1228
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:45,700
you're like no 12 and Brian
begin laying things out and we
1229
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:48,800
were talking about home games
and you were talking about
1230
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,700
conference champions and you
were talking about one G5.
1231
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,200
You were talking about the
rankings in the committee,
1232
01:16:56,500 --> 01:17:00,200
legitimately everything they're
doing is literally what Brian
1233
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,200
playing was?
Now let's get into the question
1234
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,800
because obviously the last three
or four days there's been a lot
1235
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,000
of Twitter arguments Stuff on
the timeline.
1236
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,300
I don't know if you guys saw it,
you know, other conversations
1237
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:17,700
behind the scenes.
But let's go ahead and start off
1238
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:21,500
me and Brian are both for 12. 12
is the answer.
1239
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:25,600
Sorry, not six and definitely
not eat.
1240
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,900
So why not eight Braun because
you had that argument already?
1241
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:32,600
There's several reasons.
Why not eat?
1242
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,200
The first reason is that, if you
go a, you're pretty much more or
1243
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:43,200
less every year you're saying,
I'm cool with 3 SEC teams in the
1244
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:49,300
college football playoff Number
two, unless you mandate a G5
1245
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:53,700
school be included.
You're probably excluding a G5
1246
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:56,600
team from your playoff.
Sure.
1247
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,500
Number three, you're eliminating
the probability of having any
1248
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:05,000
sort of college football playoff
home games from the scenario
1249
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,700
because the there's enough bowls
out there where they would not
1250
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:13,600
let that happen for the A-Team.
Those are my big three.
1251
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,600
I mean, there's several other
points that we can talk about
1252
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,500
and I'm going to we're going to
kind of go through some of these
1253
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:22,700
other other items here, the big
one being the six conference
1254
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:25,800
championships to cut Conference
champions.
1255
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,700
Sorry, so we're talking about
more than likely in a given
1256
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:30,200
year.
You're going to have the five
1257
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:35,500
power, five Champions and the
highest ranked G5 Champion.
1258
01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:39,600
Yeah, which is something I love
because you're automatically
1259
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,200
including at least one that G5.
And I know some people will be
1260
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,500
like, this is nothing, but it's
something.
1261
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,200
They get a seat at the table.
And that's one thing I like the
1262
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:56,400
other thing I don't like about
eight is If you look at 8 and
1263
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,600
you look back through the years
of the.you know the cfp.
1264
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,100
If you're looking at only eight
teams you're probably only
1265
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:09,000
looking at about roughly the top
15.
1266
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:14,500
Maybe top 12 like we feel like
we might can get in that you can
1267
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:18,900
go to 12 run and I did this
scenario me and you ran through
1268
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:22,000
the scenario 2016 and I know
that was a great year for the
1269
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,400
Hokies Week 10 is the beginning
of November.
1270
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:32,200
I would scroll all the way down.
There was a team 23, that was
1271
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,700
seven.
And two, Going to the final
1272
01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:39,300
weeks.
There were some 10 and 9 when
1273
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:41,600
teams that would have made a
12-team playoffs.
1274
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,500
Legitimately beginning of
November.
1275
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:49,300
You are giving anyone in the top
25, hit legitimate shot to get
1276
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:52,000
in.
What does that mean?
1277
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Run.
What does that mean?
1278
01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:00,300
It means that more people have
hope later in the year.
1279
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:07,700
It means that from a this this
is my Downstream thought here
1280
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,500
from a recruiting standpoint,
say it.
1281
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,900
If I have a chance to make the
college football, playoff, if
1282
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:19,000
I'm looking at teams that have a
chance to make the college
1283
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,700
football playoff, there's no way
that hurts recruiting.
1284
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:25,400
Nope, it's a definite.
It's a definite bump.
1285
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,100
It's a definite bump to those
teams that are consistently in
1286
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:34,100
the, let's say, top top, 20,
consistently the top 20.
1287
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,300
You're essentially one more win
away from putting yourself in
1288
01:20:37,300 --> 01:20:41,500
the conversation to make the
playoff if you're a top 20 team,
1289
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,500
if you're one, I'm better that
next year, you're in the
1290
01:20:44,508 --> 01:20:47,300
conversation to make the college
football playoff at 12.
1291
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:52,800
That opens up a lot more
opportunity for these kids to
1292
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,300
get on the national stage and
show their talent that that
1293
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:00,300
matters that matters.
I mean, there's there's no way
1294
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:05,900
around it and it's not just
enough to be in the bowl game
1295
01:21:05,900 --> 01:21:08,900
anymore because the Bowls have
already been diminished
1296
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,900
significantly.
Big time since we went to for.
1297
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,000
Yes, it is.
And at this point, there's no
1298
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:22,100
going back to to.
So now in that scenario 12 will
1299
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:25,800
help create a little bit.
I'm not saying a lot, I'm not
1300
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,000
saying we're going to go to all
of a sudden there's not going to
1301
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,400
be a dragon do four or five
teams that are significantly on
1302
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,300
paper better than everybody
else.
1303
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,500
That's not going to change
overnight.
1304
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:41,400
But what is going to change?
If you can, if you can Nic two
1305
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,700
or three players off every all
those rosters, and Spread those
1306
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:49,500
out over the next 17.
That over time that's going to
1307
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:52,700
pay some dividends.
It's big in evidence and that's
1308
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:54,600
why I see somebody like Dabo
Swinney.
1309
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,100
He's coming out saying, oh
there's not 12 good enough to
1310
01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:01,700
eat with playoff and my players
only played know down below what
1311
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:07,700
he's worried about is when he
walks into the 217th players.
1312
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:15,000
Home and tries to sell.
Well, that's cool coach but you
1313
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,500
know, this team down the road
here, they want me to they were
1314
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:23,400
14 last year they needed, they
need a number to wide receiver.
1315
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,200
I can do that this year and he
loses out the blue Royal lose a
1316
01:22:28,208 --> 01:22:35,100
little bit of depth.
The the 5220 team gains a better
1317
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,200
player to me.
It is a self leveling off of
1318
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,400
college.
Is it going to take?
1319
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:44,100
Is it going to be perfect note?
But to have more people at the
1320
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:47,000
table football sport, Anything
Can Happen.
1321
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:52,000
We've seen it, we've seen it in
our lifetime, good Lord, Hail
1322
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,500
Marys, the Appalachian State
game against Michigan, Health
1323
01:22:55,700 --> 01:22:58,100
Virginia Tech JM you gain Jesus
Christ.
1324
01:22:58,300 --> 01:23:00,000
I mean, let's go with other
seven.
1325
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,800
Let's go Boise in the the
leadership team was a Rose Bowl,
1326
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:05,700
boys.
You know.
1327
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:09,700
Oklahoma, yeah.
And then it comes to a point to
1328
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:13,700
that, you know.
A point was made to be by
1329
01:23:13,700 --> 01:23:18,900
someone today that what we've
seen 512 and like 610 and all
1330
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:21,700
this, and it's like, yeah, but
that's it a bowl game.
1331
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,000
There is nothing on the line,
there's nothing on the line.
1332
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,600
We don't know how the teams are
going to react Under Pressure
1333
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:33,000
knowing that I win this game.
I go play next week you also are
1334
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,100
going to see the opt-outs that
you have none you won't see
1335
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:37,700
them.
Yeah you will.
1336
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:41,300
So so I mean anybody who has
something to play for is not
1337
01:23:41,300 --> 01:23:45,600
going to see I Opt-outs, so that
that will help them.
1338
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,500
Not only and I mean financially,
I mean, you're talking about
1339
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:57,500
potentially playing two to three
extra games, And I know you're
1340
01:23:57,500 --> 01:24:00,100
Devils were too well.
We already played enough games
1341
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:02,900
or who I forget who was it that
said that data?
1342
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:04,700
It was.
Yeah, yeah okay.
1343
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,700
So I mean sure you play an extra
game.
1344
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:14,800
Maybe two, But you play an extra
game at eight anyway, so anyone
1345
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,800
advocating for eight?
I mean there's already an extra
1346
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,000
game thrown in there anyway.
Yep.
1347
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,300
And it's also something with
Dabo.
1348
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:29,100
He also knows dado ever, make it
when it was two teams no, he
1349
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:32,500
never made a BCS game that will
has a maiden until it went to
1350
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:35,500
four, but essentially what
you're doing is you're given a
1351
01:24:35,500 --> 01:24:42,100
lot more people swing and the
way football is We go to the NFL
1352
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000
Wildcard Weekend and vision a
weekend or some of the wildest
1353
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,500
weekend.
When literally the teens, we
1354
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:50,600
feel of the best teams, right?
That's the best team in the
1355
01:24:50,608 --> 01:24:54,000
league right there, they ain't
gonna lose they lose, they're a
1356
01:24:54,008 --> 01:24:58,300
better team that walk our team
because you're talking about the
1357
01:24:58,308 --> 01:25:00,100
way we kind of envisioned.
It is.
1358
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,600
We would have Conference
Championship week of next week
1359
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,000
we're playing.
One week to prepare, not a
1360
01:25:07,008 --> 01:25:11,400
month.
Not three weeks one week to
1361
01:25:11,407 --> 01:25:14,300
prepare go play, Go beat that
guy.
1362
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:15,900
Well, my guy got banged up in
the conversation.
1363
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:18,500
Bishop game, and he's out too
bad.
1364
01:25:18,500 --> 01:25:23,800
So sad go play. and then for the
one through four teams, you're
1365
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:29,500
looking at, probably a three
week layoff which Is that the me
1366
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:32,200
Braun?
You tell me how you feel three
1367
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,400
weeks.
Is that sort of ID ground?
1368
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:37,100
It's not enough time to get
super prep because you have to
1369
01:25:37,108 --> 01:25:39,400
wait a whole week before you
figure out who you're playing
1370
01:25:39,900 --> 01:25:44,000
and if a guy's got a high King
will be ready so you don't have
1371
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,700
to Super prep and then you get
the just the time off in general
1372
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:52,000
is probably so there's some
built-in lag even for the people
1373
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,300
with the bye.
And I mean, let's talk about
1374
01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:59,900
another thing.
Let's talk about independence.
1375
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,300
What is this going to do with
Notre Dame?
1376
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:08,200
In particular because I don't
know if everyone read it, but it
1377
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:15,500
says Conference champions a
champion first six seeds, who
1378
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:18,300
know, not the first 60s?
Sorry your first Force he could
1379
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:22,100
only get the by sorry conference
championships camera Conference
1380
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,000
Championship.
Champions can only get the by
1381
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:29,100
thus Notre Dame will never get a
bye.
1382
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:34,500
Notre Dame for them though.
They will always get a week
1383
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:36,500
break.
Look at that one week of rest.
1384
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:41,800
So it's sort of a little favor
for them but to never get a by
1385
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,500
that stinks in the way, right?
Because if you if you, if you
1386
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:48,200
just had, you know, they usually
play used to be.
1387
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,600
They play USC or Stanford Lee.
Going into an absolute
1388
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,900
Donnybrook with somebody coming
out banged up.
1389
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,900
We get a week break, we need to
We need three, we need a month.
1390
01:27:00,900 --> 01:27:08,000
Never can do it, you know,
keeping the keep saying.
1391
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,700
I go back to this.
Wrong non-power can never get it
1392
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:16,200
by is wrong.
If they are the order to feed
1393
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:25,300
Robbie they can get a call out.
Probable but probably not
1394
01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:28,500
possible ever.
Well, I've said, the problem
1395
01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:33,000
that I have is that, you know,
he's talking about non power 5
1396
01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:36,100
can never get a bite right now.
Non-power 5, doesn't even have a
1397
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:38,100
seat at the table.
This gives them a seat.
1398
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,000
Like this, at least gives them
something to work for every
1399
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,600
year.
Yeah, if you're the best G5, I
1400
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:49,600
mean and potentially to if your
Pac-12 is down here, Big 12 has
1401
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,200
a down here.
Yes.
1402
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,700
I mean you might end up having
two teams like you get a Memphis
1403
01:27:54,700 --> 01:28:00,800
or UCF or shit.
What you mean Ron we got we're
1404
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,000
going to go to some I got to do
some research here.
1405
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:12,300
Was it 2010?
I'm trying to type here. 2010, I
1406
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:19,100
think was the funky year 2010.
2010 was the year.
1407
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,900
This is the way it would have
looked already.
1408
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,100
First of all, by this is based
on BCS, poll Auburn Oregon, TCU
1409
01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:31,100
Stanford would have got the bye.
The next conference
1410
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:34,000
championships was of how state
was a conference Champion.
1411
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,900
Oklahoma was a conference
Champion Boise State would have
1412
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:44,900
made it in that year.
So for them, this helps if the
1413
01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:49,200
power 5 has a down year and you
can get there potentially get
1414
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,200
too.
Like I said, at least get at
1415
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,800
least gives one a seat at the
table, just by the fact that you
1416
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,800
have six, not five that get
automatic bids.
1417
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:05,600
Okay.
So, you know, I sit here and I
1418
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,100
it's to me.
You look at it and it it's more
1419
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:13,900
positive than negatives.
The only negative people are
1420
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:16,000
trying to say.
These are the two negatives.
1421
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:19,800
There's not enough good teams,
which I say, you have to play
1422
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,200
games that let it let it be
decided on the.
1423
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,500
It's less than 10 percent of all
college football, teams making
1424
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:31,200
the playoffs, it is essentially
and then those 12 teams, They
1425
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:35,000
get to go into the recruits home
and says we are the best 10%.
1426
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,800
We are the best of the best
right now.
1427
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,100
In college football, we made the
playoffs, whether you win a game
1428
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:42,700
or you don't, we're the best of
the best in college football.
1429
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:49,400
I think it'll be interesting.
Probably the biggest piece where
1430
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,000
it's going to be interesting and
me and you are harping on this.
1431
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,200
Talk about the bowl because it's
looking like the Bulls are just
1432
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:00,300
ramrodding themselves in there.
Just do two home games folks.
1433
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:05,800
Correct lat.
Yep.
1434
01:30:05,900 --> 01:30:10,300
True that to Cincinnati and
Coastal last year would have
1435
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:18,100
actually both got it in.
Would have both got in because
1436
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:20,300
at the end of the year,
Cincinnati was eight.
1437
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:24,500
Coastal was 12.
And I think all the conference
1438
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:27,600
champions were up in the top
here because Alabama, Clemson,
1439
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,800
Ohio State, Oklahoma.
And Cincinnati was actually the
1440
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,800
conference Championship ahead of
the XO, they both would have
1441
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,100
been in.
So there's two seats at the
1442
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:41,900
table in 2020, but the home
games run they're talking about
1443
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:45,400
first rounds to five through 12
are going to be playing.
1444
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:48,200
Each other, love it.
They got to take it a step
1445
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,400
further, just make the first two
round home games and I know the
1446
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:56,000
bowls are going to they're going
to fight that like crazy but
1447
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,700
it's like to be a fan and to
say, if Virginia Tech were to
1448
01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:07,100
ever make this Right.
Dip in, you know, we try to go
1449
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:11,300
to one maybe two games a year,
it's tough for us, but those
1450
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:14,800
fans who do make that commitment
have that sort of money.
1451
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,900
Can you imagine first of
December?
1452
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:19,800
We want you to travel to Orlando
two weeks from now.
1453
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,700
We want you to travel to Texas.
Oh you guys keep wanted.
1454
01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:25,300
Now, you need to go to the Rose
Bowl and the Championships in
1455
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:27,700
Indy?
How many people can afford to do
1456
01:31:27,700 --> 01:31:29,800
that?
How many people actually have
1457
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,900
the time to do that in a seven
week span?
1458
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,100
Many and I think having the
hub's is going to solve some of
1459
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,800
that.
Well yeah.
1460
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:46,400
And if they do it, you know,
where you have a cluster, a
1461
01:31:46,407 --> 01:31:49,600
cluster of bowls that are in the
same geographic region.
1462
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,400
I think that'll help but it's
not going to solve everything.
1463
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,100
And now they're already talked
about potentially not doing the
1464
01:31:57,500 --> 01:32:00,600
the first round at home and if
they, if they do that, then I'm
1465
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,000
less on board.
With the sister, I still think
1466
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,700
12 is a better number than eight
for a lot of reasons, but the
1467
01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:11,200
home game is one of the big
draws for me.
1468
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:16,300
Having that atmosphere at the
FBS level is unbelievable.
1469
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:18,200
Is something that we haven't
seen yet.
1470
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:23,400
Haven't home game.
Yeah, matter like that only and
1471
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,100
I think that that's something
that I think would be really
1472
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:30,500
great for college football.
So getting a getting away from
1473
01:32:30,500 --> 01:32:34,400
the home game, I mean, imagine
like, You know, we talk about
1474
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,300
the the big guys like the LSU's
or something.
1475
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:40,600
I was too.
What if, you know what if
1476
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,000
Cincinnati like last year could
have hosted one?
1477
01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:46,300
That's a big fucking deal for
them.
1478
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:49,200
Huge deal.
What about this?
1479
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,400
What about, you know, a team
like, Wisconsin gets to host a
1480
01:32:52,407 --> 01:32:56,700
team like Georgia in Madison and
December.
1481
01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:00,700
There's so many kids on the
Georgia team that have never
1482
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:02,500
seen snow in their life and they
walk in.
1483
01:33:02,500 --> 01:33:05,900
It's like coach, it's like it's
saying - 0, what does that mean?
1484
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:07,800
We're saying - for what does
that mean?
1485
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,000
It's cold.
It's going to be windy.
1486
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,700
It's got going to be a fun game
to play.
1487
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:17,100
You're going to hurt.
That would be amazing and I also
1488
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:19,000
think you talk about the Bulls,
keep fighting it.
1489
01:33:19,700 --> 01:33:23,600
Here's an idea.
Why don't you just sponsor that
1490
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:29,100
particular playoff game?
Would that be your playoff game?
1491
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:32,800
And we're talking about these
this Playoff round being the
1492
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,600
first week of December.
So it would still be during most
1493
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,800
campuses fall semester.
Yes.
1494
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,100
They would.
Although, essentially a with
1495
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:47,700
that who wouldn't go back?
Yeah, playoff game and you're
1496
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:48,900
out of school.
Massacres.
1497
01:33:48,900 --> 01:33:52,000
I'm staying, I'm just going to
I'll crash in the Buddy's
1498
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,800
apartment.
But either way, we look at it.
1499
01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:58,700
It's a step forward because if
you go back and look at the
1500
01:33:58,708 --> 01:34:03,300
history and we went, you know,
you look 95 211 Tech would have
1501
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:07,500
made it every other year, 8 of
16 years and when they said at
1502
01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:09,800
the other day it might not be
the best thing for college
1503
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,400
football.
In general.
1504
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,800
It's great for Virginia Tech and
I'm still back with you on the
1505
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,100
recruiting thing.
I think that's the piece wide.
1506
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:22,700
A bow in certain people will be
so against it because there's a
1507
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,300
Blue Bloods.
Can no longer say we're the only
1508
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,500
People that have this seat at
the table.
1509
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:32,100
Exactly.
We have a essentially, a
1510
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,900
lockdown on, I mean, really,
there's about six teens that
1511
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:40,900
have some sort of Right out the
gate you know that they're going
1512
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:43,300
to be in the conversation at the
end of the year.
1513
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:46,600
Yeah.
And they can leverage that in
1514
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,000
recruiting every single fucking
Year.
1515
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:52,900
Yes they can.
And it's just one of those
1516
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:57,200
things that you start letting
more people get to the table.
1517
01:34:58,900 --> 01:35:02,400
Be more few less plates for
those guys, and I think again,
1518
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,700
that's why Dabo is so against
it.
1519
01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:07,600
I haven't heard saving say
anything, I haven't heard like
1520
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,000
Kirby, Smart, or Lincoln Riley.
I think some of these guys would
1521
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,800
understand, will, hey, the only
one that's like a mid tier that
1522
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,900
has spoken out against it as
Mack Brown.
1523
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:23,000
But What did Max?
I haven't, I haven't heard Max a
1524
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,100
nice at what he said, his
players didn't like the idea of
1525
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:31,200
playing extra games.
And that they didn't think that
1526
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,500
there were 12 plus 12, good
enough teams to make.
1527
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,200
Can I say something?
Those guys don't want to play in
1528
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,500
the NFL then because the NFL now
you might have to play 22 game
1529
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:47,000
or 21 games to win a Super Bowl.
So do you want that?
1530
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,200
Be the first question, I'd ask
you.
1531
01:35:48,208 --> 01:35:49,400
Oh, so do y'all going to play in
the NFL?
1532
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:50,200
Oh yeah.
They're going to make them.
1533
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:56,100
Give me millions of dollars.
okay, but you have to take 21
1534
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,500
and I must say this, so We're
talking about the difference
1535
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,800
between bowl games and a college
football, playoff game.
1536
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:14,600
All right, so a bowl game.
I get so unless you are playing
1537
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,300
for something.
There's not a lot of incentive
1538
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:20,500
to want to play an extra game.
Put your body through the
1539
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:25,900
practice time on your
preparation, all that stuff, but
1540
01:36:25,900 --> 01:36:30,200
if you are playing for a chance
to win a National Title, I can't
1541
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,000
understand how I would not want
to be a part of that.
1542
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:37,300
Exactly, the maximum amount of
games you would play is 17.
1543
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:44,300
That is a typical NFL season.
So, that's nothing in to say,
1544
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:46,200
there's not 12 teams out there,
man.
1545
01:36:46,700 --> 01:36:49,100
Every time I hear somebody say
that, it's like, you have to
1546
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:52,600
play games.
Crazy thing we already talked
1547
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,600
about is the conference's.
They don't they're not playing
1548
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,000
enough games.
To accurately depict who the
1549
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,000
conference Representatives
should be, let alone, you know,
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01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,500
who's going to rub, be the for,
I mean, we can, we can talk all
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01:37:05,500 --> 01:37:09,900
we want to about well yeah, they
look good on paper or yeah.
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01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:14,500
They pass the eye test or this
that and the third and we see
1553
01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:16,400
it.
But until you play the game, you
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01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,300
don't really know.
You don't know the eye test,
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01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:22,200
they're better in every aspect.
If they're going to kill them by
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01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,400
five touchdowns, they've also
had four weeks off.
1557
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,700
The players who are really
banged up, aren't ready to go.
1558
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,600
And now we're talking rust.
I can tell you a lot of Super
1559
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,600
Bowl games that if you trusted
the eye test, or what Pedro
1560
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,000
said, you'd have a lot different
outcome.
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01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,400
You damn, right by that.
All right, Brian, anything
1562
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,000
breaking.
As we sit here, other than we've
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01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,100
been going well, over 90
minutes, which is not shocking,
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01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:54,200
because you boys had none.
This in two weeks we're catching
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01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:55,900
up guys.
We had a lot of news and we
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01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:59,500
wanted to really kind of go into
The name image or likeness and
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01:37:59,500 --> 01:38:02,800
playoff thing a little bit deep
here, just because it's been
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01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,100
burning on us for a while, so
here we are.
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01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,000
Yeah, I appreciate you guys
hanging out with us for, for a
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01:38:09,008 --> 01:38:13,800
little over 90 minutes here,
approaching 100 here approaching
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01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,100
100 minutes.
Appreciate the messages guys,
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01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:20,800
from all of you out there, send
those in we do these lives will
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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,400
dress them if we can, don't try
to throw us off our game know,
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01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:28,900
we're explode focused and Not
quite drunk enough.
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01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,100
There we go.
So that is going to wrap up this
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01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:34,500
others.
Not that drunk, we're not that
1577
01:38:34,500 --> 01:38:36,400
drunk.
That's going to wrap up.
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01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,300
This is the boundary Point
podcast.
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01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:41,700
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.
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01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:46,400
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with Brian Segal.
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
Tiga, we are back from a little
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Hiatus, man.
How you doing little vacation?
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I'm well-rested, man.
I'm well rested.
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I'm doing a week down in the
mountains in North Carolina.
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Hit the lake.
Hit up a bit a little detour up
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to Dollywood One Day.
Road, some coasters, had a good
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time.
How was your time back home,
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buddy back home was a lot of fun
for a few days and that with the
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family, when we do the pool one
day, my nephew is a Hibachi
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master, so had some Hibachi one
night, had a greater, it was
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really a great time.
You know, few days, back home
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and kids were good.
Overall, they each got to stay
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up like past 11:00 consecutive
nights for the oldest one.
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That's not a problem for the
little one who wakes up at 5
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a.m. every morning.
That's problematic.
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Oh problematic, I've got back
home a couple times.
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It's been a lot of a lot of fun.
Middle summer, man.
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And there we go, like, we've
missed a lot.
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We gotta, we gotta, we gotta
Load it up and sewed here guys.
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We got a little bit of
everything.
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We got some recruiting, we're
going to touch on some
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interviews that we had and then
we're going to hit on some of
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the two bigger topics that have
really come across the aisle
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here in the summer, which is the
proposed 12 team playoff
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expansion and the name image and
likeness.
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So that's into the new era of
college football here.
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Yeah, a big New Era of college
football.
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Because it's changing what we
grew up with 25 years ago is no
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longer the case and a lot of
things we want to talk about
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tonight, but since we've been
gone, guys, obviously some
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big-time things have happened.
Let's start first with Ramon.
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Brown committing to the Hokies,
the 511, 200 pound running back
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at a Manchester here in the RV.
A big-time get 4 star, a top-25
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running back.
A top 24/7 player.
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Yeah, what are we seeing from
Ramon?
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Rhyme either.
The big thing is going to be
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great like perception-wise.
Let's talk about that first
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because getting a high-caliber
skill position player from the
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state of Virginia.
That's something that we haven't
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really been able to pull in the
last couple Cycles.
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So it's nice to see us, get back
on that wagon when he committed,
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that was a big deal, that really
kind of, move the needle in
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terms, Terms of, in terms of
perception.
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Now that we're not saying that
okay.
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Well, all of a sudden, all is
well, but you start grabbing
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guys like that consistently,
that starts to change the
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narrative a little bit and it
shows that, you know, some of
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the new guys on the staff that
have been brought into
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specifically recruit starting to
pay some dividends.
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It also shows that little more
investment is starting to pay
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off as well.
So you know kudos to the guys
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that were able to you know, work
the recruitment.
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For Ramon there and I really
like what he brings to the table
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skill set was.
I think he's going to be a good
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asset.
Should be a guy that's going to
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see some rotational care.
He's probably in his second year
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on campus.
If not his first year.
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So, looking forward to see what
he does for us.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Shoutout to Smitty, and lectin
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Berg, who were his primary and a
secondary recruiter.
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You mentioned earlier, Bonnie
saw a lot of her.
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We're in this guy.
I think you kind of look at this
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bill that makes sense.
Also ran a 45 40 back at the
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opening back in, 2019 in back
that verified at about 185
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pounds at 5 foot 10.
So you kind of look at his
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height weight speed, it checks
out.
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So I mean, they got him listed
2020, he's probably 195, which I
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mean that's that's about what
you want for that caliber of
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player.
Especially that hasn't gotten
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too.
To a Collegiate weight program
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and nutrition program yet.
So probably going to easily add
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another five to eight pounds to
that frame once he gets going
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there and what I make the
Herbert comparison, I'm more
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thinking of the size and kind of
the skillset not necessarily
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what what I project him to be in
terms of output.
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But I mean, Herbert Next Level
this last year for.
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So it's really I mean that
that's a big, that's a big barn
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for someone to have to jump over
I'm not putting that on him, but
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I think just in terms of what
I've seen on film and just the
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athleticism and the size, that's
a probably pretty good cop.
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Absolutely.
All right.
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Where the boundary Corner
podcast?
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We don't everything is not
sunshine and Roses we call it
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like it is.
Dave, before or six days later,
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Bryson Jennings.
Son of former Tech really good
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tight end back in the day.
All Biggie's, Brian Jennings was
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down to us and Carolina, he
picked Carolina which, you know,
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of course, it stings.
He's a legacy, he's choosing to
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go elsewhere.
And it's also one of those
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things to Caroline has now got
like 17 Edge players.
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Well, I mean, we talked about
the type of defense that they
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run.
They need to, they need to load
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up on edge.
But also this stings for several
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reasons it stings.
Because as we'll talk about a
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little bit, we are getting
thinner on the defensive line,
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especially the defensive end
position getting another Edge
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guy in.
Building would have been huge
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going into next season.
You talk about a legacy to, I
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mean, I know I know North
Carolina is on the come up
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everybody.
Everybody has them on the come
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up but at the same time you got
you got to lean the legacies.
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You got to figure out a way
especially guys in your backyard
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ranked.
Well in the state you got to
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close those out because right
now, UNC is doing a fairly good
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job of putting up a gate on
their state and we need to stop
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letting some of these guys get
away.
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Especially guys that we have
Some inroads in already.
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It's true man.
And you don't know everything
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that behind the story.
But again, it's the visual
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Optics.
Now, for me, it's one of those
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you losing it sucks.
We need Edge.
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Obviously, we're going to talk
about a few things later, and
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you say, you'll and Ramon, and
it's like, and you'll, and
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Pernell.
And for me, Brian, it's like
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that.
But if I said here and told you
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a month ago, Do her nails going
to go somewhere else, for we're
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going to get Ramona Jennings or
remold going to go somewhere
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else.
We're going to get Fern, Ellen,
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Jennings.
I feel like the combo.
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We got the two of the three.
We got is the better.
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Of the two of the three, not
knocking, pricing Jennings.
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He 66 235 off edge.
It's like that.
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But how and springs is the best
program in the state.
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Ramon Jennings has one of the
highest rated players nationally
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in the state.
What am I am?
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I trying to poke colored
glasses.
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Remember in colored glasses
here?
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Or is it?
I don't think so because I think
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if you look at I think if you
told me three weeks ago, if we
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were going to lay in two of
those three, I'd have been
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probably okay with it.
Yeah, I think kind of some of
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the Goodwill that happened from
June rolling into July and once
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you get a taste of the goodness,
you kind of start to expect it
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again.
And, you know, we're not going
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to win all these battles,
especially when we go against a
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rising team like UNC or the blue
or blue blood.
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G at the same time like like I
was saying before though you
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can't have things that are
already in your favor and then
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you kind of squander those
things I think I think if it
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wasn't the Legacy Factor if it
wasn't the in-state factor I
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would have less of a problem
with that Miss but it's still
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troubles me a little bit.
So got a message here, our
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buddy, Robbie Mac Browns are
recruiting Master be quiet
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Robbie but all is not lost.
All is not lost the next day.
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One of the highest Landing
recruits.
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This staff has ever.
Got Gunner, Givens, the six foot
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five.
I'm calling him an athlete
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270-pound Prospect right there.
Next tour.
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Lord, bottom tight four-star,
top 125 player in the country.
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Top-five player in the state.
Brian, you've talked about it
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before we have not got two top
10 guys in the state in over a
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decade whereby months from
signing day, but we've got to
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Locked In.
What do you think about Gunnar
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overall?
Gutters a good, grab for several
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reasons.
You know, when we talk about
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removing brown in the
perception, Landing a guy like
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this in your backyard and with
with where he was position in
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terms of the rankings and
everything that that says a lot.
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It says that we got on him
early, we stayed on him.
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It says that we sold Virginia
Tech in the way that we need
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needed to for this type of
player.
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And what I like about Gunnar is
that he does give you some
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flexibility about where you're
going to where you going to put
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him because I think he has the
potential to be a high-quality
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interior offensive lineman
guard, maybe even a swing tackle
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if if necessary.
But I prefer him at guard but he
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also has a potential and I think
where he's going to end.
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End up for a lot of reasons is
going to be on the defensive
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line.
He's kind of that tweener.
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Three technique big defensive
end I think with his size and
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his athleticism at that size I
think he can kind of hang out
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there and defensive end.
Be a good run stuffer but also
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have enough speed to get on
there.
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Get around the edge so I see him
Landing a defensive in.
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But either way it's going to
it's a it's a pretty big get for
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the program and definitely kind
of stamps a month that That
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really turned out pretty well
overall for the Hokies
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absolutely big month on the
recruiting Trail and, you know,
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currently the Hokey sit, you
know, 15th in the country and
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the composite there in the ACC
closing in on the 87.
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And for you guys, you know who
follow the closely that 87
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numbers kind of a number, you
know, if we're right near there,
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we're going to be in the top 25
where we were consistently for
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quite a few years.
So, Let's hope that holds now
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again, like I said, I ain't all
sunshine and Roses man but the
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transfer portal of Robert Wooten
and Alec Bryant Brian.
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I'm going to I'm going to read
the out front.
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I want you to read the wood and
we're going to follow up so
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Bryant.
This was back on the 12th, you
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know.
Basically I want to thank BT for
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everything with the heavy part.
I've decided to enter the
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transfer portal and move on to a
different path to says.
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Nothing to do with my coaches or
the program but this is the best
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thing for me to do for me in my
future go.
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God bless But you read the movie
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Yep.
Very similarly.
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At least in the start there.
I want to thank VT with the
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heavy heart.
I've entered my name into the
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transfer portal, says nothing to
do with the coaches and the
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program, this is where I want it
to be.
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This is because of an issue that
was out of their hands and mine.
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I accept responsibility and
we'll move on to a different
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path.
I look forward to see what my
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future holds, and we're going to
be talking about the 20
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interview, text outline a little
while.
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But when they got into It
basically, there are two guys
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who are a transfer portal, who
basically had to leave with, you
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know, University issues.
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The stories that we're hearing.
It's a shame to me to think that
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if these two guys for what we're
hearing, got suspended for the
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honor board in the judicial
boards at Virginia Tech, might
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need to take a look at it
because to me it sounds like an
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archaic practice.
At some point.
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Just you know, if if everything
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correct.
This is kind of.
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This is a petty way to throw a
year suspension on two kids.
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Regardless of whether their
athletes are not, you know, the
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fact that they're athletes, you
know, definitely hurts us from a
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fan perspective, hurts the team
from because they're not there
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with the team.
But, I mean I'd be calling
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bullshit on this.
If this was just My buddy that,
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you know, drinks beer, every
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I mean, this is, yeah, it's a
messed-up scenario for something
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like that to cause that much
turmoil for, you know, I think
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at this point what 19 year old
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ridiculous, but and it sucks
because also we're talking about
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another when I am talking about
the roller coaster ride.
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I mean, this, this isn't
necessarily on the staff, but
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this is still another, you know,
downward trajectory They have to
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now navigate the other because
it affects the depth and it
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affects perception and it
affects the, you know, Texas 2vt
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movement for whatever you want
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You know, at this point it
affects the perception of all of
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that.
So I mean it's not a good look
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even though it has nothing
nesters do with controllable
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aspects, that the staff or the
athletic department could have
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really controlled here.
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And then later on, we're going
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defensive end position now
because obviously Robert will be
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played in every game last year.
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five they were contributors and
it hurts that up significantly.
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line was looking like a place of
a lot of potential because we
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had depth now it's still some
potential there but the depth is
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less.
So you know again the whole
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situation it's you know, they
both kind of said, you know, I
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accept the responsibility and
everything but it's just what
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we're reading If This Were to go
back in A to say this, if we
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were in college and that
happened to me, oh I'd raise
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holy hell, let's just leave it
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Hi everyone.
Okay, so I'm going to want to
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let's do a scenario little role
play here.
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It's announced ACC media de
Notre Dame and Virginia Tech
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will be on acc Network.
What's your first thought when
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you heard that?
A Comcast there, they're talking
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to you that was him.
I didn't think that way I was
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like what?
And then 20 minutes later I'm
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reading, do this deal gets to go
RI up for negotiation.
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Starting in August to end in
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They are leveraging because they
put us basically on a SEC
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network and they put a Clemson
against BC game.
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Which species being projected
higher this year.
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They're so for me and Brian, we
have the SEC network, we're not
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affected, but a lot of people in
the state of Virginia are on
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Comcast.
So, you know, like, we're pretty
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much.
I'd say what 2/3 of the
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Mid-Atlantic is on Comcast, and
some way shape, or form.
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So, I mean, right in the prime
media coverage foot print of the
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ACC is, you know, the probably
what forty percent of the
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households in that area at least
40% of the people that still are
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on cable, at least.
Oh, yeah, are impacted by this.
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So, definitely, I mean my cousin
that I saw them in South
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Carolina he is on Comcast, don't
Charleston so it's clearly
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affecting, you know, the entire
ACC footprint and then you know
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they get to leverage the Notre
Dame game with us and basically
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say you don't get that that you
don't get those.
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You don't get that many people.
So you're taking advantage of a
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multiple fan bases and I know
some people are saying, well,
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it's so easy just to click on
the somebody's thing and do it
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and put the issue is It's a lot
easier just to click on your TV
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and go to the spot instead of
calling Mom and say Mom I need
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your password, don't get the
game but I think that guarantees
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that is going to be a night
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Where if it was on ABC, I think
that weekend I saw like I think
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it's like am Alabama.
Maybe it's like three folds,
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right?
It's three or four big games
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that we can wear.
Potentially we wouldn't get the
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ABC Primetime.
Slot.
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We get more of a 3:30 but this
locks into a prime-time game.
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Yep.
All right, so first of all, as
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we get into the interview, with
Jay, Ham on Saturday, Shout Out.
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Billy Pat Grayson, you guys did
an unbelievable job with Coach
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coach ham, is just we've said it
before.
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He is an absolutely amazing
interview, the energy.
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He gives off the way he, you
know, Orchestrates, the stories
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are beautiful and there was a
lot of good stuff in there, but
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me and Brian are focused on the
season, coming up.
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We are, we are, we could talk a
little bit about, you know, how,
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you know, hand was about to go
into the insurance business and,
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but before Fuente send up a text
message, we could go into that
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stuff and we can go into the,
you know, how pretty much he was
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chomping at the bit to get back
to Virginia.
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Tech you're in that time at VMI.
Particular, but we're going to
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focus more on the, I guess the
football aspects.
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Some of that was kind of in the
back half of the interview.
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I don't know how far everyone
got into it, but it's, it was a
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great.
What, almost two hours total
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podcast, so definitely check
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If you haven't already, we're
going to run through some of the
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Half highlights here.
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Well Curtis, I'll let you, I'll
let, I'll let you lead off here
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with with some of the things you
saw.
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Well, the first time and it
caught my eye was The first
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position.
See, discussed was the
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linebacker room.
Basically, the first thing, you
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said Dax Tisdale absolute
Concepts there with these guys
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play.
A lot of other aspects of the
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game.
They play a lot of specialty and
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they're both valuable there.
They get a ton of reps.
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So he started then discussing
about the rotation of the
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linebackers and maybe a surprise
to some maybe not so much to me
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because we don't have to have a
camp.
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He had Dean Ferguson's knee.
I'm came up and it was a shock
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to you bra mean not a big shock.
I mean, he had been kind of
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floating around from what we
were hearing anyway, you know,
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kind of hanging in there and
make a little bit of noise.
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So it was nice to see that.
That's catching the coaches
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attention there and that, you
know, potentially, we could see
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him in the rotation come the
fall.
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Because honestly, I mean, I like
our Frontline guys, but I'd like
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to see some other guys step up
here, because I'm a little
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concerned behind kind The guys
that that we've seen play.
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So it's nice to hear some of
these other guys are coming
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along as well.
Yep, you know, you feel like you
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trust that actually can trust
his down but again you want to
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see death and when you start to
mention in the names that makes
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you feel good and you mentioned
the maturity of his day off his
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tail.
So that was that's big.
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I know I know we had I think he
had mentioned that previously.
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Yeah I can't remember what where
it was whether it was on
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something that the Hokey sports
did or whether it's something
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like that, but he mentioned that
and that fatherhood is really,
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really kind of worked on Tisdale
and seems like he's a lot more
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mature and ready to kind of step
up and take his game more
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seriously and take it to the
next level.
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So I'm glad to hear that because
I mean ability was never the
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problem with his daily was just
consistency.
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So, if he can get the
consistency lined up, man, he's
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going to be a pretty good player
consistency in weight.
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Yeah, it's one of those things
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Because when you hear them
talking about meeting, Well if
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Tisdale's only 210 215 heat, we
are going to have to spell them.
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Some you're going to have to
pick and choose how much he
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plays, because by all means
you're playing a team that can
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really run the ball as you get
later into the game.
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Brian you can't have him out
there every possession or
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they're just essentially, just
going to wear him out and he's
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just going to completely.
They just move out of the way.
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So that was interesting that he
mentioned that room first.
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Now the next two positions I
wasn't shot.
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He talked about safety T and
quarterback competition and and
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he started rolling off the names
of safeties.
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I mean, Devon Taylor teide Lee
Jr.
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Walker Devon Hunter and Kiante
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Safety is a strength.
Now they real strength with teh
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coming in to shore up and you
getting David Hunter back.
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I mean that's that's two big
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Right out the gate.
Counted Jenkins got some run
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last year.
And I'm going to I'm going to
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take a brief moment here and
this isn't necessarily football
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but it definitely speaks to how
coach am does his due diligence
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in not only recruiting, but just
trying to relate to the players
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him talking about, you know,
when he went to when he was
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looking at Kyoto Jenkins in high
school body language.
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He didn't like initially kept
his helmet on the sidelines.
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Kept his head down between
series and all this stuff, and
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he actually talked to him, he
was like, okay, well, he keeps
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his head.
But honestly he's ready to go.
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While he helps him stay in in
the mindset of the game when
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he's got his head down with the
sidelines between series, he's
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running through scenarios.
What he did?
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Well what he did bad on the
previous series.
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What he could do to do better
next time out there somebody
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that was that was some good
insight and also speaks to you
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can't necessarily take your
initial view on a situation and
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say okay well that that's what
it is.
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He's willing to dive deeper and
get an understanding of Of the
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players.
And I think that's big and that
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that helps them relate to him
because he knows that he's not
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going to just, you know, close
the book on them just because we
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won Bad series one bad
situation.
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So I think that's big.
That was, that was a really good
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moment for me in the, in the
interview there.
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Yeah, and you know Gionta last
year came in got a ton of
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valuable experience and then you
how ham thinks about that him
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once you in the corner back room
again, competition, I look at
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the depth chart here and you
know, the All-American freshman
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going strong.
He complimented talking about
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Jermaine Waller, had a offseason
to get fully healthy.
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Big dip, remember, 19.
It was kind of a discussion,
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who's better?
Waller or Caleb and obviously
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00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Caleb's, the bigger physical
frequent, you feel like wall
404
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800
with physical, maybe a little
more football Savvy because
405
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,900
that's kind of been his
position.
406
00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:22,900
His whole career.
You know, talked about Brian
407
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:28,800
Murray talked about, you know,
Armani Chapman, talked about
408
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,300
Nike Hawkins which is very
interesting to hear because that
409
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:37,600
name one mentioned last year.
So again we talked about it, you
410
00:25:37,608 --> 00:25:40,500
know, lower sex six weeks ago.
Corner.
411
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:46,700
You feel good because a lot of
guys have rough sand You know, I
412
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:51,800
think Jermaine Waller is such a
key not being leader because
413
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,000
with Divine Diablo gone.
Waller kind of gets to step into
414
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,400
that role as the leader of DB
you.
415
00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,600
Well, I will say this, too.
And I mean last year, just
416
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:09,400
because of injuries, opt-outs
covid, the devil Hunter
417
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,700
situation.
The secondary was probably
418
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:18,500
overall a weak area of defense
and I feel like going into this
419
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,700
season even with losing the
caliber player of a Divine
420
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,400
Diablo we're in a much better
situation in the secondary to
421
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,400
the point where it's probably
our strongest unit on the
422
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:40,800
defense going into the season.
Maybe not as top end as you know
423
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,200
with with a Mario Our know,
probably a defensive end
424
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,200
probably being the, the highest
ceiling player.
425
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,900
Yeah.
But I think Waller could
426
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:52,000
potentially re-establish himself
as that dominant player on
427
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,900
defense.
We haven't even talked about
428
00:26:54,900 --> 00:27:01,000
Shamari Connor.
You know just said, I mean, this
429
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,700
is this is a stack unit but I'd
only a more veteran unit than
430
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:11,700
last year, but also I think top
end they have more Talent this
431
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:13,700
Here.
Yeah, absolutely.
432
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:18,600
Now the next one he addressed.
It was interesting how he
433
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,100
addressed this because this was
obviously the interview after
434
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,100
looting and Brian had left.
So we're sitting here and he
435
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:32,300
starts talking about how you
know we do some things.
436
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:37,600
Essentially saying to me off
edge in our defense that we
437
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,500
can't account for it.
Can we do it every Play?
438
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:42,100
No, but how he talked?
About that.
439
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,500
You can see his mind's already
working on.
440
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,600
I might be a little thinner
defensive end than I was before.
441
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,800
I've got to start making
adjustment.
442
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,500
He mentioned.
He was starting to think about
443
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:58,800
that while he was on vacation.
And you know when you hear you
444
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,700
know somebody say that his
head's in the game it's probably
445
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:09,400
never out of the game and when
he's talking about, you know, we
446
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,000
get to do what we still do,
where we don't have to
447
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,200
completely change everything
because we lost a couple pieces
448
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,100
on the beach.
Yeah, I think you know the
449
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,400
defensive adjustments going to
be interesting just because you
450
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,700
know as we've been talking about
I think front line were not so
451
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:30,800
bad.
It's the depth you know we got
452
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,500
probably about three or four
guys we feel like we can count
453
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,200
on.
We like to rotate six.
454
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Guys at that position.
Probably I don't know if we feel
455
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,100
as good about that especially
now that Wooten and Bryant have
456
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,300
have entered the portal.
Well, I think we'd was going to
457
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,800
see some significant steps this
year.
458
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,600
He played pretty much every game
last year, I think it was gonna
459
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,200
pretty much be kind of the
fourth or fifth guy in that
460
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800
rotation this year.
So he would have seen a lot more
461
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,900
snaps this year, so that's going
to hurt.
462
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,800
It's going to be hard to replace
that, but, you know, I think
463
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200
he's talks about different
things that he could do
464
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800
schematically to take some of
that off.
465
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,200
One of the things he was talking
about is kind of giving.
466
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,400
Given looks priest map and
having something different that
467
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,300
he's going to show to him post.
Snap, keep the offense kind of
468
00:29:23,308 --> 00:29:24,900
on their heels and not knowing
what to expect.
469
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:29,200
But the other thing he talked
about and I think was you know
470
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800
maybe over some some folks had
some folks not so much but kind
471
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,900
of binary defense have checks.
They're essentially depending on
472
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,600
the look of the offense there's
going to be you either do this
473
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
or do that.
So not only simplifying you but
474
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,800
also still giving some
flexibility there.
475
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Depending on the look to kind of
Of bring something different to
476
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,400
the, to the offense, different
looks each time.
477
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,000
So they see something different.
So I think that was something
478
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600
that he kind of talked about.
That was, I think going to pay
479
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,600
some dividends here in the fall,
because I think the big thing
480
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,600
last year was that, I think
there was too much new and not
481
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,700
enough not enough time to really
absorb it and absorb it in the
482
00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:14,300
way that not only the be, the
how he talked about the coaching
483
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:17,400
staff, really not being 100% on.
The same page because right in
484
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,100
the middle of installing the
defense from a coaching
485
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,200
perspective, all of a sudden
you're doing that shit remotely.
486
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,100
Yeah.
And in person yet that's huge.
487
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,200
That's huge.
You remember something in this
488
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,700
is in a way similar to that he
was discussing a lot of people
489
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,200
said, why not, just go to Bud
stuff and he made the point and
490
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,100
he was like, You know I'm here,
bud stuff.
491
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,900
Maybe didn't know bud stuff.
Tracy claeys in the bud stuff,
492
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
although some people still
believe Tracy, please was on an
493
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,600
island all last year.
Maybe maybe not Kim did for me,
494
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,100
was in the locker room for the
UVA game building.
495
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:01,400
No blood stuff.
And is he made the point Darryl,
496
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,300
Clayton Bud system need to say,
you know, poke the 13 years
497
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,000
before but he never coasted and
never had to do it in a
498
00:31:10,008 --> 00:31:16,100
different way.
So, when he said that, Something
499
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:19,000
I'm going to close with your
later when he said that kind of
500
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
made more sense.
Something else he said was and
501
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,700
it really called My Arrows, you
talked about the layering levels
502
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:30,100
of the defense and he gave, but
his props saying Bud, should be
503
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,400
the first assistant coach in the
Hall of Fame.
504
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,300
Best defensive coordinator of
all time.
505
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:39,000
The system was unbelievable.
But he made the point and Brian
506
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400
me and you have been watching
for a long time and it's true.
507
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,500
Buzz defense was very high-risk
high-reward.
508
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Yep.
How many times did we give up?
509
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,900
Huge, chunk plays whether in the
passing game, or in the running
510
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,700
game, because we were either
plans, cover, zero g, and the
511
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,300
line somebody that misses a gap,
or they missed the press, the
512
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,300
one that always gets me, I
talked about a 30 minutes before
513
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:10,200
we jumped on the night.
Y'all ECU 2014, we tie the game.
514
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400
It all we got to do is it's like
a minimum 12 left.
515
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,300
I think.
If somebody like that game, let
516
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,800
me know it was it wasn't much
time left in.
517
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,700
The only thing I said is like,
the only thing we can't do, we
518
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:24,900
can't give up a huge plate.
We give up a huge play.
519
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,500
They're going to win the game.
We literally were in a cover.
520
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,700
One.
Clean press we give up an
521
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,800
over-the-top, they win.
Well they're very close game.
522
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,000
Big play.
Yeah.
523
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,500
Hey and so would you say in that
picture?
524
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
I think he's we're still going
to see some, are we going to see
525
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,700
some covers?
Rose and he's going to attack.
526
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,200
Yeah, we will see some cover
ones, but I think Ron pointed
527
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000
you made last year and this year
is We're going to see what type
528
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,200
of coverage.
I mean I think you're going to
529
00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,800
see a lot more Zone and you're
going to see a lot more zones
530
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,400
just because that's the way.
Countering buds defense was to
531
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,300
attack the defense at different
levels.
532
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:15,900
So we were fairly good at
containing, the run-in.
533
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,400
We at least had been in place to
take away the Deep stuff as long
534
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,100
as we didn't get beat, but what
you didn't have is if you know,
535
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,700
you got all those guys running
deep with the receivers and now
536
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,200
you've got a quarterback that
breaks contain and there's just
537
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,600
a big space of know.
Nothing for about 15 or 20
538
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,100
yards.
What's the Marilyn game?
539
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,200
I think the same freaking slow,
quarterback.
540
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,000
We had no one there to get
thing.
541
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,400
Like, 89 yards that game.
Yeah, we-we're big house
542
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,400
watching that game.
I think we were screaming.
543
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,100
We were upset.
But so you kind of see the
544
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,900
vision that we're going to have
levels in to me what he is.
545
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,500
He's kind of already telling
people.
546
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,800
Buddy, Robbie he wanted to keep
with that.
547
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:14,300
Yes, I agree and it wasn't from
Jake drinking the beam.
548
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,800
It was a need but what he's
saying is the modern era of
549
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,000
college football is a lot more
underneath stuff.
550
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,900
You seen you know, Airaid
Concepts in the last 15 years or
551
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,800
everybody system are a concept
RPO.
552
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,000
I mean those things are designed
to Really attack the three
553
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,900
levels of painted defense on a
given play.
554
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,300
And I think that's the thing
that we're not talking about is
555
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:45,699
that you know it's not just okay
well you know you're you're
556
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,500
stabbing short here you're
stabbing deep here I meet a
557
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,300
given playing the RPO system can
really kind of attack those
558
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,199
different levels depending on
what the read the quarterback
559
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,900
gets and what he decides to do
with football.
560
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:03,200
Yeah and as hand said that or po
stuff was essentially done to
561
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,300
counter Of the Bud Foster
defense.
562
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:06,900
And I agree with that.
All right.
563
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,100
Well, let's kick it off of J.
Hamm on the coach few, with the
564
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,300
TSL interview.
Great job by Will Stewart, and
565
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:16,900
by Chris Coleman there and food
just seems super comfortable
566
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,700
this interview and let's start
first.
567
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,100
And this is how, you know, what?
He's come from very early in
568
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:24,900
their they're talking about
recruiting Virginian house
569
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:28,800
getting better and, you know,
Landing places and the staff and
570
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,700
the focus.
He gave a shout to Smitty like
571
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:35,600
them Berg and then he said, Just
because you're from Virginia,
572
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,300
doesn't mean you can recruit
here.
573
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:42,800
We've seen that not work out
like Jesus Christ shots fired.
574
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:46,200
Yeah, I wasn't sure who that was
so tweeting, but he was
575
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,100
subtweeting somebody we're not
We're not gonna throw names out
576
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:55,700
there.
I have a feeling y'all, but you
577
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,700
see that?
And it's one of those things
578
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:00,100
that's kind of true.
Again, the winds we've had this
579
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:04,500
year in the state had been
really big and Again, the
580
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,600
Comfort level who just come out
and say that you knew was going
581
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,300
to be a good interview from
right there very early on in the
582
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,300
process.
Yeah, well I mean, what's the
583
00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:13,900
Comfort level is kind of drop
there?
584
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:17,800
And I mean, we saw the
juxtaposition with media day and
585
00:36:17,808 --> 00:36:19,500
we know that that's a different
animal.
586
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,100
And think we'll even talked
about.
587
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,900
He always seems more comfortable
in the breakouts after then the
588
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:32,400
actual fish bowl.
So yeah, just hold you don't
589
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,900
know what you're getting.
So it makes a lot.
590
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,700
A lot of sense, you know, in the
next piece that he said, Ron
591
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:42,600
that kind of we talk about is he
is reviewing or he views
592
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,600
recruiting.
Now is a two-fold approach high
593
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,300
school and the portal free
agency.
594
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:53,300
And we've talked about it before
and he talked about how they're
595
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:58,000
continuing to build the
recruiting staff and kind of
596
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,400
made it seem to me in a way that
if he's here, you're going to
597
00:37:03,408 --> 00:37:05,300
essentially You guys in war
brand.
598
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,600
These are our high school, this
is the portal.
599
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,200
Yeah, and I have a feeling
through the portal staff, will
600
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,400
probably be in charge of talking
to guys on the roster.
601
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
That's the way it goes.
But I like that concept.
602
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Yeah.
And I liked our approach a
603
00:37:23,207 --> 00:37:30,000
little bit more this off season
than last only because While,
604
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,700
you know, going out for some big
fish to feel fill the holes that
605
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,700
you have on your roster like
Landing a read or Landing
606
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:41,200
Blackshear in a Herbert.
I prefer if we're going into the
607
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,500
portal to kind of be more of a
depth move with potential to be
608
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,600
a starter.
Not, we're counting on you to be
609
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,700
the guy or we're up shits Creek.
So, if we're going to use the
610
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,500
portal and use it, well, I think
that's the way we need to keep
611
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:06,100
continue to continue to work
because we can't book on finding
612
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,000
starter level and potentially
Star level talent in the portal
613
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,300
every year.
Yeah to buoy our team.
614
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:19,400
So you know getting getting at a
daily you know getting a bob
615
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Shake.
I know he was a Juco but when
616
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,300
Williams yeah this kind of that
more of a car.
617
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:32,500
Or Johnny, I mean, I think
that's the type of players you
618
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:36,100
need to be bringing in.
Not, we're bringing in her red
619
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:40,000
and black sheer and if one of
those two don't bust, we're in
620
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,400
big trouble.
So I like this approach better
621
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,100
and it also means that you have
to focus on doing the recruiting
622
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,100
the high school, recruiting the
right way.
623
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:53,200
And so I think we're seeing some
of the benefits of that come
624
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
through as well.
Yeah I mean to me I think you
625
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,400
have to look the portal.
I want to say say similar to how
626
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,300
the more well ran in FL
organizations are the guys you
627
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,500
recruit are the guys you want to
be on the bed, you want to be
628
00:39:10,508 --> 00:39:13,200
your stars.
But you know, there's going to
629
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,100
be guys who just are buried on
the depth chart and eventually
630
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,400
say, I just need to get on the
field.
631
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,300
I'm probably good enough to play
at other institutions and I've
632
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:24,700
got to go there because I need
to show.
633
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,600
Take in the NFL is you look to
go duck.
634
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:38,300
Still out there.
Let's jump over this, I think
635
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:43,100
after everything that happened,
not shocking, you know, Wulfric.
636
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:48,600
Renee, the, you know, tight end
recruit last year from France is
637
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,900
switched over.
Officially it's actually updated
638
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,600
on the Hokey website today,
which is shocking because
639
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,800
apparently they're timely
updates, only updates.
640
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
There's I love to see move
positions that still have not
641
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,400
been so I don't think this is a
shock, but a couple things that
642
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:12,100
coach food talked about was A
the athleticism of Wilfred but
643
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:17,700
the other was the story of
literally what 16 he comes from
644
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:22,400
France, over.
He doesn't speak a lick of
645
00:40:22,408 --> 00:40:24,700
English.
Learns, English goes to a
646
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,900
Preparatory Academy and
Connecticut.
647
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:34,800
And you know, any said kind of
the way I got it wasn't like if
648
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,700
this kid had been an
american-born kid his
649
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,700
recruitment would have been
significantly higher.
650
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Yeah all those not red flags but
what do you call them?
651
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Ron I mean barriers.
I think they are probably the
652
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,700
best way to say it.
Yeah.
653
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:57,100
That there were barriers to his
Recruitment and you know we're
654
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,500
talking about a player here that
is versatile.
655
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,100
So I mean you like to see that
you like to see versatile
656
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,500
players this roster in general,
has been moving to more
657
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,000
versatile players.
We see how we're recruiting,
658
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,900
we're seeing it how we're
deploying, I've still
659
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:16,700
offensively still wanting to See
more of that.
660
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:22,900
But that's I digress him
switching over to defensive end,
661
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:24,500
his big.
Not only because of the holes
662
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:29,300
that we have created with some
transfers and things like that.
663
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:33,200
But also we get to see this
guy's athleticism because we do
664
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,600
have some other tight end depth
that he's not he probably wasn't
665
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
going to see significant snaps
this year, he can help us on
666
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
defensive end.
He said he wasn't necessarily
667
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,600
done at tight end but the need
position going into 2021 is
668
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,500
going to be defensive end.
So I'm looking forward to see
669
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:52,900
what he's able to do.
Since he does have some
670
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,700
experience there.
This isn't Ana.
671
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,800
Mari bar.
No situation where he's picking
672
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,500
the position up from from ground
zero.
673
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:04,200
So hopefully he jumps into fall
camp and finds a good roll.
674
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:07,000
Oh yeah, definitely an
experience there and High School
675
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,100
in his last season there while
playing been both ways, forty
676
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:15,600
seven, tackles 15 and a half
sacks, 11 tackles for loss three
677
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,500
forced fumbles and he blocked
the punt.
678
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600
And he also the big piece of lot
of people were, you know, a lot
679
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,400
of people mentioned how excited
they were about him.
680
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,500
Was he wrestled?
And usually when you hear a
681
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:33,200
wrestler, you think more defense
and offense so I think it's a
682
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,300
great chance for him.
Maybe the potential, you know
683
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,800
what the guy sees working with
on that line, the experience
684
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,600
with pricing tier Only maybe to
take steps like Barna did last
685
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,300
year under tap and chairlift so
we don't know.
686
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:52,000
We can only hope.
All right.
687
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,700
Also, did you notice when he
talked about that the laughs
688
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,500
came out?
Yeah.
689
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Anytime he simply life, you
know, he's comfortable as well.
690
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:05,500
All right, I got the roster up
here.
691
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,600
Braun.
All right.
692
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,500
Pull it up.
Tell me we got, okay.
693
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:12,600
He mentioned, first of all,
there's 37,000 running.
694
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,400
Acts on our team, there's three
running backs who have a
695
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,900
potential freshman, running back
to have potential to play this
696
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:22,100
year and I'm going through here
a, there's so many of them.
697
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,200
Who do you think he's talking
about?
698
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Give me, give me one name that
you would say that guy could
699
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:34,900
probably play this year.
Oh man, Bronson Alcott.
700
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:38,900
Thomas I'd say Kenji has the
best chance to get into the
701
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,400
rotation and a lot of that's
going to depend on somebody else
702
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,700
for probably going to talk about
and that's going to be key.
703
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:51,500
Sean King.
When she if Keshawn King he said
704
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,400
he's still working on his
consistency.
705
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,100
If Keshawn King is consistent
the more likely those freshmen
706
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:02,900
are going to see less time
because he mentioned Jalen, he
707
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,100
mentioned Rahim Blackshear but I
think ringing blacks years going
708
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:09,000
to be working as much in the
slot if as he is in the
709
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,900
backfield.
So this is going to do in terms
710
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,600
of being the number two guy.
The guy that's getting the spell
711
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,700
carries.
The guy that's getting Anal
712
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,200
carries its down to Keyshawn
King, depending on where we are
713
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,300
on the field.
Marco Lee, probably in short
714
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:28,600
yardage situations and then one
or two of those freshman's that
715
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,300
step up.
I'm thinking it will be Kenji.
716
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,700
Yeah, he mentioned Marco.
He's ready play this year.
717
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,000
He's had last year.
It was a combination of learning
718
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,500
The Playbook, plus being in
physical shape.
719
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,900
The key thing you mentioned it.
He, I think he said this every
720
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:45,800
year about king or least last
year's to consistency key
721
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Chongqing, you know, We've seen
him make some eye-opening plays
722
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,900
and then just kind of go away
Ron.
723
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,000
I swear to God if they run Rahim
Blackshear, like they did last
724
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,800
year, you're going to go to
Blacksburg.
725
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
We're going to stand it.
Marry a man with big signs and
726
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,500
you're going to write on their
black share is not a primary
727
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,600
running back.
Stop it.
728
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,400
I mean, if you're calling plays
that consistently get him.
729
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,100
I'm outside the tackles or the
ball in the passing game in
730
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,800
space, I have no problem with
it.
731
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,500
If you're telling me you're
gonna run inside Zone with them,
732
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:30,200
you know, five six times in a
row, I'm gonna scratch my head
733
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,900
and look at you, like, you got
the whole in your own head?
734
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,300
Yeah, I mean, like, it's just it
doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
735
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,000
I like Ricky Blackshear but he
does not have the between the
736
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,600
tackles Vision that especially
Herbert had last year, but I
737
00:45:45,607 --> 00:45:49,400
think in particular, That you're
looking for in terms of
738
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:55,100
consistency, but he does have
really good Vision in space.
739
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
So you want to get him outside
the tackles, you want to get him
740
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,900
the ball in space.
You want to throw the ball to
741
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:05,200
him from the slot.
You don't necessarily just want
742
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000
to line him up and run, Dives
and insides up.
743
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:10,500
Yeah, we have plenty of running
backs.
744
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,400
We need, although somehow David.
He'll put us one-eyed, receiver
745
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,900
tight end, combo.
I'm still trying to figure that
746
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:23,500
out but how my wide receivers he
mentioned that the Wayne Loft
747
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:30,100
and Jalen Jonas studs, Coach
Fuente, if they are studs then I
748
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,500
should see them on the field
significantly this year.
749
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,700
If they are not on the field,
choose your words better or
750
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,000
figure out what's going on the
offensive side of the ball while
751
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,700
they're not there.
Because now after hearing
752
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,800
Braxton earlier today in an
interview Braxton this offseason
753
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,200
have been working a lot with
Trey pay Danes Mitchell.
754
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Heme and Jayden and Caleb.
That's a good core that, but if
755
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,700
you're saying those two guys are
studs, also come back Jay.
756
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:08,800
A second downright was killing
us in scout team last year.
757
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,800
Braun, you being you talked
about it and you were like
758
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,400
killing you.
Also.
759
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,700
Why?
Well I said, I said, you know,
760
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,800
whether he was killing or not.
I mean we had trouble.
761
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,100
Getting changa Hodge the ball
for whatever reason last year,
762
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,800
how we going to get daylan,
right?
763
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,900
The ball as well.
So that was my frustration.
764
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,300
I don't think we necessarily
lack Talent on that side of the
765
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:35,400
ball.
I think we need to be better at
766
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,200
getting separation and I think
we need to be better about
767
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:44,500
getting the ball to our players.
That can make plays because we
768
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:47,400
got some athletes out there
especially, you know, some of
769
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,300
the guys we got Jaden, pay you
coming back.
770
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:53,400
I'm looking really forward to
seeing what he can do in this
771
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,700
offense, because I mean, that
speed is an X Factor in that
772
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,100
athleticism.
Even if he's still not quite the
773
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
crisp route, Runner that we want
him to be, we need someone that
774
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,100
can just take the top off
stretch, the defense gets
775
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,500
separation from athletic,
cornerbacks And I think he can
776
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,500
be that guy for us.
So, I'm looking forward to what
777
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,900
to see what they can do.
But I'm not, I'm not David Hale
778
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:24,300
here and thinking that we are
Crushing the wide receiver game
779
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:28,100
either.
I think we have a a solid front
780
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,500
front.
Few skill guys.
781
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,400
And then a lot of guys that have
talent but are unproven.
782
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,000
Yeah absolutely.
He also addressed the offensive
783
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,800
line, you know he mentioned kind
of mentioned Tyrell, Smith is
784
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,800
going to get some probably get
the first run at right, tackle
785
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000
with Silas being a pretty good
position for Right Guard.
786
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,700
But then as he's talking, he let
something slip.
787
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,400
Ron, you had some slip, he said,
well, you know, broccoli, Garden
788
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:01,100
tackle and grime, probably went
Guard and tackle a.
789
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:08,900
Yeah I mean and obviously we
don't want to be in a situation
790
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,700
where we need to play Brock and
Tackle but if Brock is the best
791
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,900
tackle, we have you play
Brockett tackle, that's my
792
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:18,800
opinion.
I want my best.
793
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Five linemen on the field.
Whatever my best five
794
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:27,000
combination is, I want them on
the field and if that happens to
795
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,900
be Brock Hoffman at right
tackle, Well, so be it obviously
796
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:34,000
that's not ideal.
Nobody wants to be in that
797
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,300
scenario.
So I think a lot of this is
798
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,200
going to depend on what we get,
how quickly Bob.
799
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,600
She could pick up the tackle
position, knowing what we have
800
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,200
in Parker Clements once.
Those things start to flesh out
801
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,700
a little bit then I think we
will know if that he's even an
802
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:57,200
option something that's on the
table but until then and I know
803
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,500
we talked about Tyrell coming
back.
804
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,900
As well.
So once we kind of see how those
805
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,500
three ShakeOut I guess, that's
when Brock would probably come
806
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:12,600
in the in the picture there but
You know, as I said, I want my
807
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
best best five combination out
there, so if that ends up being
808
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,000
brachot tackle.
So be it.
809
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,800
I'm really hoping about three
weeks from now, he announces the
810
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,700
starters, on the line, You know,
I really hope that's done
811
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,800
because I think for us, I want
to vision of foods out there,
812
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,800
and it's a way to nitpick.
Yes, from the talk about, but
813
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:39,200
you get an idea because we're
him when I'm saying that, and
814
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,200
then I'm kind of inferring that
Silas kind of had Right Guard
815
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,300
lockdown.
It makes you feel a little
816
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:47,900
better because then you see the
death build a little bit, will
817
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:52,100
Johnny, I'll be back up Center.
Rocking kick to tackle org or
818
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,500
whatever way we need in more
depth, which is our biggest
819
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,600
concern on the line.
Not necessarily the first
820
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,900
starting five for starting five.
We feel good about.
821
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,200
All right, bro.
So if you feel good about Brock
822
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,000
and you feel good about Silas,
then that gives you more of a
823
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,600
swing.
Yes, you do.
824
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,200
Because at least then you feel
better about, okay, well, if we
825
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,400
need to move rock out, we've got
a solid core here and then you
826
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,600
still got a couple guys behind
them that you would Least feel
827
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,000
somewhat okay about in
especially Kate more sounds like
828
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,500
he had a pretty good pretty good
spring as well.
829
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:35,200
So Absolutely, you're the end of
the interview with welcome Chris
830
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,000
talked about favorite movies and
Brian.
831
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
I know this one super close to
your heart.
832
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:47,000
Talked about favorite movie
Shawshank Redemption that is you
833
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,100
as long as I'm on you that's
been here jamming and I'll
834
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:55,500
shake, you can never go wrong
with with Shawshank.
835
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:59,100
I mean, you got your, Stephen
King writing, the short story
836
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,300
Rita, In the Shawshank
Redemption.
837
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Shout out Stephen King.
And then, I mean, The movie that
838
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,400
started Morgan Freeman as the
narrator.
839
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Yes.
And he was unbelievable in it.
840
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,900
He and Tim Robbins.
Just the story in general.
841
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,000
It's one of those that, if it's
on, you can.
842
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,300
If you have probably seen it
more than 10 times, you've
843
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:27,600
probably seen in more than 50.
Is that a lie?
844
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,700
I mean, there was a time where I
was like watching it like once a
845
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:34,200
month.
All right, so he only closer to
846
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,000
100 bucks.
Well, it's again.
847
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,700
Now the other one.
Talked about Pulp Fiction.
848
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:46,800
I mean, Just that entire movie
is great.
849
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:48,600
I mean there's just so many
moments there.
850
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:54,000
So many lines.
I mean he was Tarantino just
851
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,400
pulling his dick out and saying
we're doing this.
852
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,500
And I mean, it was a it was a,
it was a fun ride and it seems
853
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,100
like food really likes movies
made in 1994.
854
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,100
He was only missing the Forest
Gump for the trifecta of the
855
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:14,900
1995, Oscar Oscar, run their of
like the big From that years.
856
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,300
So He's very true.
Actually.
857
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:23,700
I go back and you think 1994.
I mean, obviously, those movies
858
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:29,600
were unbelievable.
I mean, you know, by the way,
859
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,600
another, this is just, this goes
back to us being kids with Dumb
860
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,600
and Dumber was 94 to.
I, like the original three-year,
861
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,700
not 94, is a great year really
great year for.
862
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,200
I don't even think I'd say,
Question on it man I want to
863
00:53:47,207 --> 00:53:50,800
close this out.
With one thing these interviews
864
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
were great.
These interviews are great.
865
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,400
These interviews were six months
too late.
866
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
And we we focused a lot on.
What's Happening Now?
867
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,200
J, Hamm gave some of the back
story of how he got to Virginia
868
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,400
Tech, who gave some little peek
behind the curtain.
869
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Look behind the curtain.
What was going on?
870
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,400
Especially the covid-19 were
talking about, we had nobody at
871
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,500
Camp.
Yep we're contact.
872
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:26,100
Traced if this had been said six
months ago after with keeps him
873
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:31,500
after they talk I think a lot of
us would sit here and say, hey
874
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:33,700
wait a minute for eight weeks of
Camp.
875
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:36,700
You like had no bodies, you
couldn't essentially install
876
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:41,200
what you wanted to install on
your side of the ball, and then
877
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,600
obviously some of the stuff
taking place during the season.
878
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,600
The Christina Garnett has said,
it numerous time we are
879
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,400
bringing, so piss-poor, public
relations.
880
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:00,300
This should, this should become,
this should become a staple in
881
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:05,500
February.
For them, a staple sit down P.
882
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,400
SL, sit down with whoever,
you're comfortable with and
883
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,700
shoot, the breeze for 90
minutes.
884
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:14,400
Well, I think the, I think the
problem is that, you know, let's
885
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,000
go back.
To access in general.
886
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:19,200
True.
It's true, you're not
887
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,400
communicating with us.
You don't get the benefit of the
888
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,300
doubt. .
And I think that that's part of
889
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,500
the problem and sometimes it's
too little too late.
890
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,800
If you get out in front of
things this is I mean this is PR
891
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,700
shit that Christina was talking
about.
892
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:42,300
This is if you get out in front
of things or you talk about
893
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:46,000
things with people.
You spread more Goodwill.
894
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,800
People are more willing to give
you the benefit of the doubt or
895
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:55,500
give you a little bit of leash,
but devoid of that people make
896
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,400
up their own stories, people
make up their own minds, and
897
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,700
there's nothing to prove them
wrong.
898
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,500
There's no, there's no other
counter information out there.
899
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,900
So you're letting someone else,
write the narrative, whether
900
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:12,100
that's true or not.
You're forfeiting your your
901
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:16,200
version of the story.
It's true, man.
902
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,100
And that's one thing that they
have got to understand.
903
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,000
They've got to have people in
there telling them get in front
904
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:28,000
of it, pulp about it because we
would have probably had a lot of
905
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:33,300
empathy especially the training
camp shit, man, because that's
906
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,400
insane to think we can.
You have little to nobody there.
907
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,300
All right guys, before we get
into name image and likeness and
908
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,100
the playoff taught, we're going
to take it.
909
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:47,800
Quick pause for a message from
our digital partners.
910
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:17,100
Alright guys, so next up here,
we are going to be looking at
911
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,500
naming image and likeness.
It is big.
912
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:22,700
It is here, it ain't no going
back.
913
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,400
They ain't much governance to it
right now.
914
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:31,500
But Brian, I'm just being real.
You are how too late is this?
915
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,100
When should this shit had
released artist 2021?
916
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,300
What's your opponent?
You started?
917
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:43,000
The NCAA should have beginnig of
Gun talking about this and
918
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,700
starting to write the rules of
this a decade ago there, at
919
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:52,900
least five years, late,
implementing it and they drag
920
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:54,800
their feet, they waited for the
state.
921
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,200
So they wanted the conference's
to step up on their own instead
922
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,600
of doing it themselves as they
should, there needs to be a
923
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
unified system.
You can't let each conference
924
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,100
write their own bylaws.
When you are under a governing
925
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,200
body already.
D, it's stupid.
926
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:18,200
Number two.
So they wait, they wait, they
927
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
drag their feet state starts.
Passing shit, people start,
928
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,200
suing them.
People start, suing the states.
929
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,300
He gets all the way to
Congressional hearings and they
930
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,800
get completely raked over the
dam.
931
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,400
Coals by democrats Republicans
and everyone in between.
932
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,300
It's like one of the few damn
things that both sides have
933
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:44,000
agreed on in the past five years
was that the NCAA completely
934
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,400
stepped in shit on this?
So now that they've been called
935
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,100
out by that and now that other
states are putting things in
936
00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:56,800
place and those are going live
effective July 1st.
937
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,700
The NCAA says, alright, any
state that has rules?
938
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:05,000
You follow those any ones that
don't hear some very fucking
939
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,400
loose guidelines to go by until
we decide what this actually
940
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,900
should look like.
Yeah, to me you say 10 years ago
941
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,900
and they should have started.
The writing was on the wall to
942
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,900
me.
About five years before that,
943
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:23,400
mid-2000s early 2000's when you
had go back to Mike Vick and
944
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,400
think about him as a person and
then look at the Miami teams and
945
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,100
then you have bench young and
you had the USC teams and then
946
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:33,100
the Gators teams right there.
That's what it should have been
947
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,500
Jesus.
If these guys had something they
948
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:40,600
can make a lot of money in its
eventually some it's going to
949
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,200
break through in some way.
So really probably 20 years ago
950
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
is when they really started
thinking about it.
951
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,000
And then 15 years ago, riding
loss of ten years ago was in but
952
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,500
they completely screwed it up.
Yeah.
953
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,900
Hello late.
But I mean, I'm going to say
954
00:59:55,900 --> 01:00:02,300
this, I am all for this being in
place awful because you've been
955
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,100
for a while.
I've been I've been on record
956
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:06,700
here.
I've been on record on Twitter.
957
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:10,700
I've been on record at the
barbecue on Saturday, or Sunday,
958
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:19,800
if you can't go out there, and
Use your abilities to make money
959
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,900
off of your own brand or your
own abilities.
960
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Like what everybody else gets to
do that?
961
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:34,300
I mean, We had there was there
was people that couldn't even
962
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:39,300
sell a t-shirt, that they made,
even if it had nothing to do
963
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,500
with football.
Nothing like they couldn't sell
964
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:46,000
fucking T-shirts because the
NCAA says, no can't do that.
965
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:52,200
Like it's just ludicrous shit.
And I mean that, you know,
966
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,100
whether whether you want to get
on board with players having
967
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,200
agents and all that stuff, you
know, they should always have.
968
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:01,400
Been able to use their
abilities.
969
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
Like everybody else that's on
scholarship in every other
970
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:09,400
situation at the University to
use whatever talents they have
971
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,700
while they're there to
capitalize on their abilities.
972
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,800
True, man.
There's no reason not to anybody
973
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:23,500
else and be like anything.
So I mean, but it's very
974
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:27,700
unfortunate that the NCAA drag
their feet.
975
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:29,900
It's unfortunate that they're
not right now.
976
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:34,500
Taking responsibility, I would
have rather them Rush something
977
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,700
together in the two weeks they
had.
978
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,800
Then just said, all right.
Have fun.
979
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,800
It's like they put no effort
into it and they also take no
980
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,700
responsibility and they're not
going to take responsibility for
981
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:49,700
any ramifications that come from
it.
982
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,900
Oh no.
It's just facts, man.
983
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,500
They're not taking any of it.
And I mean for what they strike
984
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,000
called him out in the interview
said, they just planted this.
985
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,400
They punted this to the state.
They find this new schools in
986
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,500
the kids and it's going more and
more of what is the NCAA even
987
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:13,100
here for What are they here for?
And it's coming to a point
988
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,400
especially with the OU Texas
news coming out.
989
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:21,800
And, you know, Jim Phillips
saying yesterday in that
990
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
interview we are 15 team
conference.
991
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:32,100
And it's like to me, I think the
power 5 for football, maybe not
992
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,900
for everything.
I think in the next 10 years,
993
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:42,400
the power 5 and maybe even the
f.c. or FBS as a whole might
994
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,600
just break off and say bleep
them, we don't need them.
995
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:49,500
We've got conferences, we have
governing bodies.
996
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:53,600
Here we can elect a president of
our organization and we can run
997
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,300
I think it's heading towards
that because they don't do
998
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:01,400
anything they don't and then
when they, when they do
999
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,600
something that's more, well he
can't be eligible this year
1000
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,800
because he's three miles outside
the range and you're like, are
1001
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,700
for fuck's sake.
Are you kidding me?
1002
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:14,000
But JT, Daniels, can transfer to
Georgia.
1003
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,500
So, with no questions asked,
it's like they're free.
1004
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:23,400
Worthless.
I mean they've been worthless
1005
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,300
you know the the picking and
choosing of wind to put in
1006
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:31,800
sanctions and when to penalize a
not penalize and band and not
1007
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:40,300
ban, it's very selective.
It feels very at best haphazard
1008
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:49,500
at worst preferential to certain
institutions and just there
1009
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,100
There's no consistency with the
application of the rules.
1010
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,300
There's rarely any enforcement
of the rules.
1011
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,200
And at some point, you got to
say, what the fuck are you
1012
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,100
actually doing?
They don't know what they're
1013
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,400
doing other than making a lot of
money.
1014
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:10,100
That's it.
They're making a lot of money
1015
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:14,600
for themselves.
More inward salary asinine and
1016
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,500
and now because of them not
taking responsibility grunting,
1017
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:22,400
it not jumping on this, a decade
ago, I mean it's the Wild Wild
1018
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,700
West right now.
It's the Wild Wild West again,
1019
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,100
they've let they for the states
that didn't actually put
1020
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:37,400
something in place.
It's, it's become very much the
1021
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,800
while last for the states that
did put something in place.
1022
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,800
Now, they're up against.
Can we can we enforce it should
1023
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,500
the NCAA enforce it, who's
enforcing it?
1024
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:49,300
If, if some other if the other
states are doing it, should we
1025
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:52,500
even care whether we enforce it
or not.
1026
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,800
If they're still within whatever
the NCAA governing body rule.
1027
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:02,900
Like it's a very loose like when
I was thinking of this being in
1028
01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:05,300
place I was like, okay well
they'll take Take you know a
1029
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:09,100
year or two to come up with what
this needs to look like and you
1030
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,500
know, a bunch of different eyes
from people across the country
1031
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,500
and different backgrounds and
all that stuff.
1032
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:17,000
We'll have a look at this before
it goes into place and agents
1033
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,700
will get to weigh in on it and
like there are so many people
1034
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:26,100
that need to have some sort of
commentary on this before we
1035
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,800
threw it out there now and I
wanted it to start as soon as it
1036
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:34,200
should but it's solely in the
NCAA in.
1037
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,100
It's in their court, that this
is going the way it going and
1038
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,500
and kudos to the athletes
because they're, they're getting
1039
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:45,100
paid based on their abilities
based on their marketability,
1040
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:49,400
based on their brand, their
image and, you know, kudos to
1041
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,600
them.
I know saving was talking about
1042
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,500
the, the quarterback that really
hasn't played very much at this
1043
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,700
point.
Maybe it's not rice, young
1044
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,700
getting close to a million in
close to it, close to a mil.
1045
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,600
And that's 8 plus figure.
So yes, I mean that's crazy to
1046
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,200
think.
He's gonna get some plus figures
1047
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,300
and he's not, he's not stepped
foot on the field.
1048
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:14,000
He's just the Alabama
quarterback.
1049
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,400
Now I find it like him, go get
the money.
1050
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,200
Make sure you get a tax attorney
because you will need one of the
1051
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,400
million dollars because every
legal entity Alabama, state
1052
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,300
governments also hate to tell
him this, if you're playing in
1053
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,600
the states of Mississippi
endorsing, anything Georgia,
1054
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,900
Florida.
Wherever you play, those states
1055
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:38,800
are probably going to come after
you for their tax money.
1056
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,900
Especially if you do something
or say something, while you're
1057
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:45,300
on that state and then there's
the federal, so, probably young.
1058
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:50,100
Make sure you get a good
accountant because if not, I do
1059
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:51,700
not want to see you getting
hauled away.
1060
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:55,400
I don't see anybody getting
hauled away to jail for the
1061
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,700
season starts next year, for tax
evasion because somebody didn't
1062
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:01,400
pay your taxes for you.
And that's why you need to trust
1063
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,500
your agent because your agent is
the person that can kind of
1064
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,000
guide you through.
Under this thing.
1065
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:09,500
Yes, but let's you, and you feel
like most of these schools, we
1066
01:07:09,508 --> 01:07:12,600
know the Hokies have their
program started up for these
1067
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,700
guys that they're going to them.
They're getting the advice that
1068
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,300
they need.
But Brian, you saw something
1069
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:22,000
North Carolina's?
Doing you said, Virginia Tech
1070
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,600
needs to start that ASAP.
I mean, yeah, they partner with
1071
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,500
the LifeStream group, to use
unc's, official, trademark and
1072
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:33,800
logo in conjunction with name
image, and likeness
1073
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:37,500
opportunities for Collegiate
athletes.
1074
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,500
So that's essentially not
necessarily directly.
1075
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,700
Representing the university but
using the university related
1076
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:53,200
trademark and logo in relation
to what they're doing, Michigan
1077
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,800
I think followed suit with
something very similar.
1078
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,700
I mean, like I said, we're
really in the early stages here
1079
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:02,500
and some of this is going to be,
all right, we're going to push
1080
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:05,100
these boundaries as far as we
can push them and then see what
1081
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:07,900
happens.
And I think we're in that
1082
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:14,000
boundary-pushing territory right
now and Robbie in our comments
1083
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,100
here, brings up a good point and
Foo actually talked about this
1084
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:21,700
during his discussion relating
to name image and likeness.
1085
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:26,500
But, you know, worrying about
whether whether the name image
1086
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:30,300
of like, the stuff will get in
the way of preparation or yeah.
1087
01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:32,600
Doing the right things from
football perspective.
1088
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,500
And he said I, you know, I hope
that the that what we're doing
1089
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,500
isn't going to impact, how
we're, how we're going about our
1090
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:43,000
business.
There's and I think, as long as
1091
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,500
everyone's doing what they need
to do outside of the preparation
1092
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:50,300
that they've been doing
previously, this will go off.
1093
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:55,300
Well, yeah.
And I'm hoping that that it does
1094
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:59,100
because like I said, I think
it's been a long time coming.
1095
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:05,600
And I'm just sad at this point
that the NCAA didn't take any
1096
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,700
more responsibility in rolling
this out in a way that I think
1097
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:13,500
would have helped the players
and the institutions with a lot
1098
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,600
of uncertainty.
Let me ask you this brand
1099
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,300
because you made the point there
about does it interfere?
1100
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:22,500
Does it interfere with classes
because it interfere with your
1101
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:24,700
practice schedules?
You're lifting schedules your
1102
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:30,700
team meetings etc etc really.
The classes are important.
1103
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,500
That's going to also be a thing.
If a guy gets you can't play
1104
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,200
this week.
Why you haven't went to class
1105
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,899
all year.
There he is.
1106
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:42,200
Here essentially academically
ineligible but let me ask you
1107
01:09:42,207 --> 01:09:43,600
this front.
Do you think there's any
1108
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,899
animosity into the locker room
Bryce is about to get a million
1109
01:09:46,899 --> 01:09:51,100
dollars endorsements?
And let's say, the guy
1110
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,000
protecting him on the left side
is got 20,000.
1111
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,800
And sitting here.
Look at him saying dude, if I
1112
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,300
don't do my job, they'd cream,
you, you break your leg.
1113
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:05,200
You never play again.
Hmm, maybe I should just slip on
1114
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,200
this one slide step.
I don't think that'll happen,
1115
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:12,100
but you see animosity in size a
locker, or what do you think,
1116
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,700
Brian?
I don't think so.
1117
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,200
And I'm gonna mention a couple
scenarios here.
1118
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,500
The first is, I mean, there's
already have and have-nots in
1119
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:24,400
the locker room.
Anybody that says, there isn't
1120
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:26,000
is kidding themselves.
Elves.
1121
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,200
I mean, whether it's favorites,
whether their star players
1122
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,900
versus, you know, guys that are
more role players on the team.
1123
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:36,000
I mean there's already a pecking
order to some degree in a locker
1124
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,700
room.
Some people just, you know, they
1125
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:41,500
know their roles, they do their
job, and they don't care about
1126
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:44,800
it and sometimes things like
that or why people have been
1127
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,000
transferring to other other
programs so that shit's already
1128
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,100
there.
Number two, I want to say this
1129
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:57,300
about Braxton Burmeister Trying
to get his offensive lineman
1130
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:01,900
some, some free food for naming.
Would you like - that's the type
1131
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:03,400
of shit?
I like there's gonna be
1132
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,300
camaraderie.
The people that are the star
1133
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:09,800
players, they're going to
recognize and call out those
1134
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,700
guys that maybe more unsung.
And I think that's going to help
1135
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:18,100
this situation.
Whether it's even, just even if
1136
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:20,700
it's just the call that even if
nothing comes from it, the fact
1137
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:24,300
that they're, you know, the
appreciation is being shown, I
1138
01:11:24,308 --> 01:11:28,200
think is something But also, if
things do come from and I think
1139
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,700
it's kind of a, hey, well we've
got these stars.
1140
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:34,700
But you know, there's some other
guys here that are big part of
1141
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:37,800
why we're doing what we're doing
and how we're having success on
1142
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,900
the football field.
It's true.
1143
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,600
Are we going to create unbalance
is football going to be way up
1144
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000
here and every other sport will
be way down here.
1145
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:55,400
Are you think it's going to be?
Because I don't think it's gonna
1146
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,600
be that way.
I think it is going to be
1147
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,300
individual.
Yeah, yours is gymnastics girls
1148
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:02,700
that she's making more Bryce is
right now.
1149
01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:06,300
Yeah, I think it's that there's
not going to be in balance in
1150
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:12,600
terms of how like I think you
need to be wary of what role
1151
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,100
boosters have in the Aspect of
it necessarily.
1152
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:21,200
But in terms of The Haves and
have-nots, I mean, bags of
1153
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,600
already been dropped for getting
kids to come places under the
1154
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200
table.
I think what you're going to
1155
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,500
see.
I think Fuente you actually
1156
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,900
talked about a little bit, you
know, he essentially says the
1157
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:34,400
pine nuts, the pie isn't going
to get bigger, it's just going
1158
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,700
to get spread directly some of
its going to get spread directly
1159
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,000
to the kids, which could impact
the university to a degree.
1160
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,400
But I think there's going to be
because being a booster is
1161
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,000
getting redefined right now,
right?
1162
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,400
Yes it is.
So while I agree that some of
1163
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,700
the money that from the big-time
guys, instead of going directly
1164
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:59,100
to the university might get, put
into directly to the players.
1165
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:02,200
For some, a manager, like this
things, I think you're going to
1166
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,300
see more smaller folks, step up,
that hadn't necessarily been
1167
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:10,400
giving to the university or only
we're giving a little bit to the
1168
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,600
university, start to give more
because they can give more To an
1169
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,400
individual that they feels like
not only you know, they feel
1170
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:24,200
like represents their school
well but also that can do you
1171
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,900
know good things for their
business bring people to their
1172
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:28,900
business.
So I think there's things you
1173
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:31,000
know the mutual relationship is
still there.
1174
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:33,400
Yep.
Absolutely.
1175
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,900
In you know you talk about
imbalance.
1176
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:40,500
I mean I think what's going to
happen particularly actually in
1177
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:44,900
all scores I think you're going
to see people like you know
1178
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:48,700
thing about Jadeveon Clowney.
He's a sophomore.
1179
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:51,400
He should sit out as year.
What's probably going to start
1180
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,900
happening?
Is you're going to got to have
1181
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:56,500
guys who are this?
Guy's a first-round, pick no
1182
01:13:56,500 --> 01:14:01,100
matter what there's going to be
companies coming in to get them.
1183
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,800
Onboard before they leave
College.
1184
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,600
And that's going to happen in
probably.
1185
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,500
Football men's basketball
baseball to a lesser extent.
1186
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:16,100
Some of the track and field
athletes on both men's and
1187
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:20,700
women's, you know, because then
they don't, we like we can do
1188
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,600
this.
Like, who's the swimmer girl?
1189
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,900
She was at Stanford, you know,
I'm talking about Katie.
1190
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:28,500
Ledecky.
Okay.
1191
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:32,300
Becky at Stanford, right.
Not an amateur at.
1192
01:14:32,300 --> 01:14:36,900
It's weirder with Olympics, but
now it's almost Because we have
1193
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:40,400
this rule.
If this was four years ago after
1194
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,400
what she did, and then she went
to Stanford Kayla day, Kiwi, be
1195
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:47,800
a multi-millionaire by them.
She might already be, but
1196
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,500
there's that opportunity.
Unbelievable track star goes to
1197
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,300
Florida, he's going to be in the
hundred meters.
1198
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,200
We're going to go ahead and give
them a bunch of money because we
1199
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,100
want him to promote our product.
So I think across all lines of
1200
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,300
sports is going to help and
wherever you go, it's going to
1201
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:05,400
be the athlete.
It's not going to be necessarily
1202
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:10,000
where they go.
Well, I think also because, you
1203
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,400
know, we talked about the
imbalance, but I think in some
1204
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,300
ways, this levels the playing
field because you can now build
1205
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:19,800
a Collegiate image anywhere.
Yeah.
1206
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,700
You don't need a blue blood
program or a program.
1207
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:26,100
That's going to the playoff
every year or all that.
1208
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:28,700
You don't need that to build a
brand before.
1209
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:33,900
You can go pro, you can now
build your brand within any
1210
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:36,600
University as long as they have,
you know, some sort of decent
1211
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:39,700
and foundation.
So in that way, it does level
1212
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:43,300
the playing field in my opinion
because, you know, you can go to
1213
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:46,800
a Virginia Tech and and build
your brand and it'd be, it'd be
1214
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,000
something that's, you know, kind
of a national or least as a
1215
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,600
regional brand.
Yeah, big deal before before you
1216
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,300
leave College.
You don't have to go to a
1217
01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:00,500
Clemson, or an Alabama, or an
Ohio State, or an Oklahoma to do
1218
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:03,100
that anymore.
Very true, very true.
1219
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,500
Hi Brian.
We've been talking about doing
1220
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:09,300
this.
This six months, hahaha
1221
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,800
playoffs, playoffs.
First of all, we need to get the
1222
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:19,200
attorneys on the phone because
clearly The cfp committee
1223
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,000
somehow hacked, some of our
conversations for the last old
1224
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,600
by Design, you son of a bitch.
Jenna least old friends design,
1225
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,100
I'm not gonna I'm not kidding
like Brian had talked probably
1226
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:38,500
2019, maybe 2018.
Yeah, it was as early as 2018,
1227
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:42,100
you were like 12.
And I was like nasty 6 and
1228
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:45,700
you're like no 12 and Brian
begin laying things out and we
1229
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:48,800
were talking about home games
and you were talking about
1230
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,700
conference champions and you
were talking about one G5.
1231
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,200
You were talking about the
rankings in the committee,
1232
01:16:56,500 --> 01:17:00,200
legitimately everything they're
doing is literally what Brian
1233
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,200
playing was?
Now let's get into the question
1234
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,800
because obviously the last three
or four days there's been a lot
1235
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,000
of Twitter arguments Stuff on
the timeline.
1236
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,300
I don't know if you guys saw it,
you know, other conversations
1237
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:17,700
behind the scenes.
But let's go ahead and start off
1238
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:21,500
me and Brian are both for 12. 12
is the answer.
1239
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:25,600
Sorry, not six and definitely
not eat.
1240
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,900
So why not eight Braun because
you had that argument already?
1241
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:32,600
There's several reasons.
Why not eat?
1242
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,200
The first reason is that, if you
go a, you're pretty much more or
1243
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:43,200
less every year you're saying,
I'm cool with 3 SEC teams in the
1244
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:49,300
college football playoff Number
two, unless you mandate a G5
1245
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:53,700
school be included.
You're probably excluding a G5
1246
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:56,600
team from your playoff.
Sure.
1247
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,500
Number three, you're eliminating
the probability of having any
1248
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:05,000
sort of college football playoff
home games from the scenario
1249
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,700
because the there's enough bowls
out there where they would not
1250
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:13,600
let that happen for the A-Team.
Those are my big three.
1251
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,600
I mean, there's several other
points that we can talk about
1252
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,500
and I'm going to we're going to
kind of go through some of these
1253
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:22,700
other other items here, the big
one being the six conference
1254
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:25,800
championships to cut Conference
champions.
1255
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,700
Sorry, so we're talking about
more than likely in a given
1256
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:30,200
year.
You're going to have the five
1257
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:35,500
power, five Champions and the
highest ranked G5 Champion.
1258
01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:39,600
Yeah, which is something I love
because you're automatically
1259
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,200
including at least one that G5.
And I know some people will be
1260
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,500
like, this is nothing, but it's
something.
1261
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,200
They get a seat at the table.
And that's one thing I like the
1262
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:56,400
other thing I don't like about
eight is If you look at 8 and
1263
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,600
you look back through the years
of the.you know the cfp.
1264
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,100
If you're looking at only eight
teams you're probably only
1265
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:09,000
looking at about roughly the top
15.
1266
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:14,500
Maybe top 12 like we feel like
we might can get in that you can
1267
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:18,900
go to 12 run and I did this
scenario me and you ran through
1268
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:22,000
the scenario 2016 and I know
that was a great year for the
1269
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,400
Hokies Week 10 is the beginning
of November.
1270
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:32,200
I would scroll all the way down.
There was a team 23, that was
1271
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,700
seven.
And two, Going to the final
1272
01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:39,300
weeks.
There were some 10 and 9 when
1273
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:41,600
teams that would have made a
12-team playoffs.
1274
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,500
Legitimately beginning of
November.
1275
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:49,300
You are giving anyone in the top
25, hit legitimate shot to get
1276
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:52,000
in.
What does that mean?
1277
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Run.
What does that mean?
1278
01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:00,300
It means that more people have
hope later in the year.
1279
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:07,700
It means that from a this this
is my Downstream thought here
1280
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,500
from a recruiting standpoint,
say it.
1281
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,900
If I have a chance to make the
college football, playoff, if
1282
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:19,000
I'm looking at teams that have a
chance to make the college
1283
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,700
football playoff, there's no way
that hurts recruiting.
1284
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:25,400
Nope, it's a definite.
It's a definite bump.
1285
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,100
It's a definite bump to those
teams that are consistently in
1286
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:34,100
the, let's say, top top, 20,
consistently the top 20.
1287
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,300
You're essentially one more win
away from putting yourself in
1288
01:20:37,300 --> 01:20:41,500
the conversation to make the
playoff if you're a top 20 team,
1289
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,500
if you're one, I'm better that
next year, you're in the
1290
01:20:44,508 --> 01:20:47,300
conversation to make the college
football playoff at 12.
1291
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:52,800
That opens up a lot more
opportunity for these kids to
1292
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,300
get on the national stage and
show their talent that that
1293
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:00,300
matters that matters.
I mean, there's there's no way
1294
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:05,900
around it and it's not just
enough to be in the bowl game
1295
01:21:05,900 --> 01:21:08,900
anymore because the Bowls have
already been diminished
1296
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,900
significantly.
Big time since we went to for.
1297
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,000
Yes, it is.
And at this point, there's no
1298
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:22,100
going back to to.
So now in that scenario 12 will
1299
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:25,800
help create a little bit.
I'm not saying a lot, I'm not
1300
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,000
saying we're going to go to all
of a sudden there's not going to
1301
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,400
be a dragon do four or five
teams that are significantly on
1302
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,300
paper better than everybody
else.
1303
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,500
That's not going to change
overnight.
1304
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:41,400
But what is going to change?
If you can, if you can Nic two
1305
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,700
or three players off every all
those rosters, and Spread those
1306
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:49,500
out over the next 17.
That over time that's going to
1307
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:52,700
pay some dividends.
It's big in evidence and that's
1308
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:54,600
why I see somebody like Dabo
Swinney.
1309
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,100
He's coming out saying, oh
there's not 12 good enough to
1310
01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:01,700
eat with playoff and my players
only played know down below what
1311
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:07,700
he's worried about is when he
walks into the 217th players.
1312
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:15,000
Home and tries to sell.
Well, that's cool coach but you
1313
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,500
know, this team down the road
here, they want me to they were
1314
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:23,400
14 last year they needed, they
need a number to wide receiver.
1315
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,200
I can do that this year and he
loses out the blue Royal lose a
1316
01:22:28,208 --> 01:22:35,100
little bit of depth.
The the 5220 team gains a better
1317
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,200
player to me.
It is a self leveling off of
1318
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,400
college.
Is it going to take?
1319
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:44,100
Is it going to be perfect note?
But to have more people at the
1320
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:47,000
table football sport, Anything
Can Happen.
1321
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:52,000
We've seen it, we've seen it in
our lifetime, good Lord, Hail
1322
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,500
Marys, the Appalachian State
game against Michigan, Health
1323
01:22:55,700 --> 01:22:58,100
Virginia Tech JM you gain Jesus
Christ.
1324
01:22:58,300 --> 01:23:00,000
I mean, let's go with other
seven.
1325
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,800
Let's go Boise in the the
leadership team was a Rose Bowl,
1326
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:05,700
boys.
You know.
1327
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:09,700
Oklahoma, yeah.
And then it comes to a point to
1328
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:13,700
that, you know.
A point was made to be by
1329
01:23:13,700 --> 01:23:18,900
someone today that what we've
seen 512 and like 610 and all
1330
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:21,700
this, and it's like, yeah, but
that's it a bowl game.
1331
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,000
There is nothing on the line,
there's nothing on the line.
1332
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,600
We don't know how the teams are
going to react Under Pressure
1333
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:33,000
knowing that I win this game.
I go play next week you also are
1334
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,100
going to see the opt-outs that
you have none you won't see
1335
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:37,700
them.
Yeah you will.
1336
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:41,300
So so I mean anybody who has
something to play for is not
1337
01:23:41,300 --> 01:23:45,600
going to see I Opt-outs, so that
that will help them.
1338
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,500
Not only and I mean financially,
I mean, you're talking about
1339
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:57,500
potentially playing two to three
extra games, And I know you're
1340
01:23:57,500 --> 01:24:00,100
Devils were too well.
We already played enough games
1341
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:02,900
or who I forget who was it that
said that data?
1342
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:04,700
It was.
Yeah, yeah okay.
1343
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,700
So I mean sure you play an extra
game.
1344
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:14,800
Maybe two, But you play an extra
game at eight anyway, so anyone
1345
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,800
advocating for eight?
I mean there's already an extra
1346
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,000
game thrown in there anyway.
Yep.
1347
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,300
And it's also something with
Dabo.
1348
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:29,100
He also knows dado ever, make it
when it was two teams no, he
1349
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:32,500
never made a BCS game that will
has a maiden until it went to
1350
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:35,500
four, but essentially what
you're doing is you're given a
1351
01:24:35,500 --> 01:24:42,100
lot more people swing and the
way football is We go to the NFL
1352
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000
Wildcard Weekend and vision a
weekend or some of the wildest
1353
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,500
weekend.
When literally the teens, we
1354
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:50,600
feel of the best teams, right?
That's the best team in the
1355
01:24:50,608 --> 01:24:54,000
league right there, they ain't
gonna lose they lose, they're a
1356
01:24:54,008 --> 01:24:58,300
better team that walk our team
because you're talking about the
1357
01:24:58,308 --> 01:25:00,100
way we kind of envisioned.
It is.
1358
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,600
We would have Conference
Championship week of next week
1359
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,000
we're playing.
One week to prepare, not a
1360
01:25:07,008 --> 01:25:11,400
month.
Not three weeks one week to
1361
01:25:11,407 --> 01:25:14,300
prepare go play, Go beat that
guy.
1362
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:15,900
Well, my guy got banged up in
the conversation.
1363
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:18,500
Bishop game, and he's out too
bad.
1364
01:25:18,500 --> 01:25:23,800
So sad go play. and then for the
one through four teams, you're
1365
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:29,500
looking at, probably a three
week layoff which Is that the me
1366
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:32,200
Braun?
You tell me how you feel three
1367
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,400
weeks.
Is that sort of ID ground?
1368
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:37,100
It's not enough time to get
super prep because you have to
1369
01:25:37,108 --> 01:25:39,400
wait a whole week before you
figure out who you're playing
1370
01:25:39,900 --> 01:25:44,000
and if a guy's got a high King
will be ready so you don't have
1371
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,700
to Super prep and then you get
the just the time off in general
1372
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:52,000
is probably so there's some
built-in lag even for the people
1373
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,300
with the bye.
And I mean, let's talk about
1374
01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:59,900
another thing.
Let's talk about independence.
1375
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,300
What is this going to do with
Notre Dame?
1376
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:08,200
In particular because I don't
know if everyone read it, but it
1377
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:15,500
says Conference champions a
champion first six seeds, who
1378
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:18,300
know, not the first 60s?
Sorry your first Force he could
1379
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:22,100
only get the by sorry conference
championships camera Conference
1380
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,000
Championship.
Champions can only get the by
1381
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:29,100
thus Notre Dame will never get a
bye.
1382
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:34,500
Notre Dame for them though.
They will always get a week
1383
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:36,500
break.
Look at that one week of rest.
1384
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:41,800
So it's sort of a little favor
for them but to never get a by
1385
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,500
that stinks in the way, right?
Because if you if you, if you
1386
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:48,200
just had, you know, they usually
play used to be.
1387
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,600
They play USC or Stanford Lee.
Going into an absolute
1388
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,900
Donnybrook with somebody coming
out banged up.
1389
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,900
We get a week break, we need to
We need three, we need a month.
1390
01:27:00,900 --> 01:27:08,000
Never can do it, you know,
keeping the keep saying.
1391
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,700
I go back to this.
Wrong non-power can never get it
1392
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:16,200
by is wrong.
If they are the order to feed
1393
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:25,300
Robbie they can get a call out.
Probable but probably not
1394
01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:28,500
possible ever.
Well, I've said, the problem
1395
01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:33,000
that I have is that, you know,
he's talking about non power 5
1396
01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:36,100
can never get a bite right now.
Non-power 5, doesn't even have a
1397
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:38,100
seat at the table.
This gives them a seat.
1398
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,000
Like this, at least gives them
something to work for every
1399
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,600
year.
Yeah, if you're the best G5, I
1400
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:49,600
mean and potentially to if your
Pac-12 is down here, Big 12 has
1401
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,200
a down here.
Yes.
1402
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,700
I mean you might end up having
two teams like you get a Memphis
1403
01:27:54,700 --> 01:28:00,800
or UCF or shit.
What you mean Ron we got we're
1404
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,000
going to go to some I got to do
some research here.
1405
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:12,300
Was it 2010?
I'm trying to type here. 2010, I
1406
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:19,100
think was the funky year 2010.
2010 was the year.
1407
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,900
This is the way it would have
looked already.
1408
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,100
First of all, by this is based
on BCS, poll Auburn Oregon, TCU
1409
01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:31,100
Stanford would have got the bye.
The next conference
1410
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:34,000
championships was of how state
was a conference Champion.
1411
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,900
Oklahoma was a conference
Champion Boise State would have
1412
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:44,900
made it in that year.
So for them, this helps if the
1413
01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:49,200
power 5 has a down year and you
can get there potentially get
1414
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,200
too.
Like I said, at least get at
1415
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,800
least gives one a seat at the
table, just by the fact that you
1416
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,800
have six, not five that get
automatic bids.
1417
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:05,600
Okay.
So, you know, I sit here and I
1418
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,100
it's to me.
You look at it and it it's more
1419
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:13,900
positive than negatives.
The only negative people are
1420
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:16,000
trying to say.
These are the two negatives.
1421
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:19,800
There's not enough good teams,
which I say, you have to play
1422
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,200
games that let it let it be
decided on the.
1423
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,500
It's less than 10 percent of all
college football, teams making
1424
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:31,200
the playoffs, it is essentially
and then those 12 teams, They
1425
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:35,000
get to go into the recruits home
and says we are the best 10%.
1426
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,800
We are the best of the best
right now.
1427
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,100
In college football, we made the
playoffs, whether you win a game
1428
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:42,700
or you don't, we're the best of
the best in college football.
1429
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:49,400
I think it'll be interesting.
Probably the biggest piece where
1430
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,000
it's going to be interesting and
me and you are harping on this.
1431
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,200
Talk about the bowl because it's
looking like the Bulls are just
1432
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:00,300
ramrodding themselves in there.
Just do two home games folks.
1433
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:05,800
Correct lat.
Yep.
1434
01:30:05,900 --> 01:30:10,300
True that to Cincinnati and
Coastal last year would have
1435
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:18,100
actually both got it in.
Would have both got in because
1436
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:20,300
at the end of the year,
Cincinnati was eight.
1437
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:24,500
Coastal was 12.
And I think all the conference
1438
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:27,600
champions were up in the top
here because Alabama, Clemson,
1439
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,800
Ohio State, Oklahoma.
And Cincinnati was actually the
1440
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,800
conference Championship ahead of
the XO, they both would have
1441
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,100
been in.
So there's two seats at the
1442
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:41,900
table in 2020, but the home
games run they're talking about
1443
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:45,400
first rounds to five through 12
are going to be playing.
1444
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:48,200
Each other, love it.
They got to take it a step
1445
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,400
further, just make the first two
round home games and I know the
1446
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:56,000
bowls are going to they're going
to fight that like crazy but
1447
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,700
it's like to be a fan and to
say, if Virginia Tech were to
1448
01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:07,100
ever make this Right.
Dip in, you know, we try to go
1449
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:11,300
to one maybe two games a year,
it's tough for us, but those
1450
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:14,800
fans who do make that commitment
have that sort of money.
1451
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,900
Can you imagine first of
December?
1452
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:19,800
We want you to travel to Orlando
two weeks from now.
1453
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,700
We want you to travel to Texas.
Oh you guys keep wanted.
1454
01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:25,300
Now, you need to go to the Rose
Bowl and the Championships in
1455
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:27,700
Indy?
How many people can afford to do
1456
01:31:27,700 --> 01:31:29,800
that?
How many people actually have
1457
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,900
the time to do that in a seven
week span?
1458
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,100
Many and I think having the
hub's is going to solve some of
1459
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,800
that.
Well yeah.
1460
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:46,400
And if they do it, you know,
where you have a cluster, a
1461
01:31:46,407 --> 01:31:49,600
cluster of bowls that are in the
same geographic region.
1462
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,400
I think that'll help but it's
not going to solve everything.
1463
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,100
And now they're already talked
about potentially not doing the
1464
01:31:57,500 --> 01:32:00,600
the first round at home and if
they, if they do that, then I'm
1465
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,000
less on board.
With the sister, I still think
1466
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,700
12 is a better number than eight
for a lot of reasons, but the
1467
01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:11,200
home game is one of the big
draws for me.
1468
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:16,300
Having that atmosphere at the
FBS level is unbelievable.
1469
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:18,200
Is something that we haven't
seen yet.
1470
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:23,400
Haven't home game.
Yeah, matter like that only and
1471
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,100
I think that that's something
that I think would be really
1472
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:30,500
great for college football.
So getting a getting away from
1473
01:32:30,500 --> 01:32:34,400
the home game, I mean, imagine
like, You know, we talk about
1474
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,300
the the big guys like the LSU's
or something.
1475
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:40,600
I was too.
What if, you know what if
1476
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,000
Cincinnati like last year could
have hosted one?
1477
01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:46,300
That's a big fucking deal for
them.
1478
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:49,200
Huge deal.
What about this?
1479
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,400
What about, you know, a team
like, Wisconsin gets to host a
1480
01:32:52,407 --> 01:32:56,700
team like Georgia in Madison and
December.
1481
01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:00,700
There's so many kids on the
Georgia team that have never
1482
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:02,500
seen snow in their life and they
walk in.
1483
01:33:02,500 --> 01:33:05,900
It's like coach, it's like it's
saying - 0, what does that mean?
1484
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:07,800
We're saying - for what does
that mean?
1485
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,000
It's cold.
It's going to be windy.
1486
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,700
It's got going to be a fun game
to play.
1487
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:17,100
You're going to hurt.
That would be amazing and I also
1488
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:19,000
think you talk about the Bulls,
keep fighting it.
1489
01:33:19,700 --> 01:33:23,600
Here's an idea.
Why don't you just sponsor that
1490
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:29,100
particular playoff game?
Would that be your playoff game?
1491
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:32,800
And we're talking about these
this Playoff round being the
1492
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,600
first week of December.
So it would still be during most
1493
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,800
campuses fall semester.
Yes.
1494
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,100
They would.
Although, essentially a with
1495
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:47,700
that who wouldn't go back?
Yeah, playoff game and you're
1496
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:48,900
out of school.
Massacres.
1497
01:33:48,900 --> 01:33:52,000
I'm staying, I'm just going to
I'll crash in the Buddy's
1498
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,800
apartment.
But either way, we look at it.
1499
01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:58,700
It's a step forward because if
you go back and look at the
1500
01:33:58,708 --> 01:34:03,300
history and we went, you know,
you look 95 211 Tech would have
1501
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:07,500
made it every other year, 8 of
16 years and when they said at
1502
01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:09,800
the other day it might not be
the best thing for college
1503
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,400
football.
In general.
1504
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,800
It's great for Virginia Tech and
I'm still back with you on the
1505
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,100
recruiting thing.
I think that's the piece wide.
1506
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:22,700
A bow in certain people will be
so against it because there's a
1507
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,300
Blue Bloods.
Can no longer say we're the only
1508
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,500
People that have this seat at
the table.
1509
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:32,100
Exactly.
We have a essentially, a
1510
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,900
lockdown on, I mean, really,
there's about six teens that
1511
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:40,900
have some sort of Right out the
gate you know that they're going
1512
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:43,300
to be in the conversation at the
end of the year.
1513
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:46,600
Yeah.
And they can leverage that in
1514
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,000
recruiting every single fucking
Year.
1515
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:52,900
Yes they can.
And it's just one of those
1516
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:57,200
things that you start letting
more people get to the table.
1517
01:34:58,900 --> 01:35:02,400
Be more few less plates for
those guys, and I think again,
1518
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,700
that's why Dabo is so against
it.
1519
01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:07,600
I haven't heard saving say
anything, I haven't heard like
1520
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,000
Kirby, Smart, or Lincoln Riley.
I think some of these guys would
1521
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,800
understand, will, hey, the only
one that's like a mid tier that
1522
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,900
has spoken out against it as
Mack Brown.
1523
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:23,000
But What did Max?
I haven't, I haven't heard Max a
1524
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,100
nice at what he said, his
players didn't like the idea of
1525
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:31,200
playing extra games.
And that they didn't think that
1526
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,500
there were 12 plus 12, good
enough teams to make.
1527
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,200
Can I say something?
Those guys don't want to play in
1528
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,500
the NFL then because the NFL now
you might have to play 22 game
1529
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:47,000
or 21 games to win a Super Bowl.
So do you want that?
1530
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,200
Be the first question, I'd ask
you.
1531
01:35:48,208 --> 01:35:49,400
Oh, so do y'all going to play in
the NFL?
1532
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:50,200
Oh yeah.
They're going to make them.
1533
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:56,100
Give me millions of dollars.
okay, but you have to take 21
1534
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,500
and I must say this, so We're
talking about the difference
1535
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,800
between bowl games and a college
football, playoff game.
1536
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:14,600
All right, so a bowl game.
I get so unless you are playing
1537
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,300
for something.
There's not a lot of incentive
1538
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:20,500
to want to play an extra game.
Put your body through the
1539
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:25,900
practice time on your
preparation, all that stuff, but
1540
01:36:25,900 --> 01:36:30,200
if you are playing for a chance
to win a National Title, I can't
1541
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,000
understand how I would not want
to be a part of that.
1542
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:37,300
Exactly, the maximum amount of
games you would play is 17.
1543
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:44,300
That is a typical NFL season.
So, that's nothing in to say,
1544
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:46,200
there's not 12 teams out there,
man.
1545
01:36:46,700 --> 01:36:49,100
Every time I hear somebody say
that, it's like, you have to
1546
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:52,600
play games.
Crazy thing we already talked
1547
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,600
about is the conference's.
They don't they're not playing
1548
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,000
enough games.
To accurately depict who the
1549
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,000
conference Representatives
should be, let alone, you know,
1550
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,500
who's going to rub, be the for,
I mean, we can, we can talk all
1551
01:37:05,500 --> 01:37:09,900
we want to about well yeah, they
look good on paper or yeah.
1552
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:14,500
They pass the eye test or this
that and the third and we see
1553
01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:16,400
it.
But until you play the game, you
1554
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,300
don't really know.
You don't know the eye test,
1555
01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:22,200
they're better in every aspect.
If they're going to kill them by
1556
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,400
five touchdowns, they've also
had four weeks off.
1557
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,700
The players who are really
banged up, aren't ready to go.
1558
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,600
And now we're talking rust.
I can tell you a lot of Super
1559
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,600
Bowl games that if you trusted
the eye test, or what Pedro
1560
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,000
said, you'd have a lot different
outcome.
1561
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,400
You damn, right by that.
All right, Brian, anything
1562
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,000
breaking.
As we sit here, other than we've
1563
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,100
been going well, over 90
minutes, which is not shocking,
1564
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:54,200
because you boys had none.
This in two weeks we're catching
1565
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:55,900
up guys.
We had a lot of news and we
1566
01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:59,500
wanted to really kind of go into
The name image or likeness and
1567
01:37:59,500 --> 01:38:02,800
playoff thing a little bit deep
here, just because it's been
1568
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,100
burning on us for a while, so
here we are.
1569
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,000
Yeah, I appreciate you guys
hanging out with us for, for a
1570
01:38:09,008 --> 01:38:13,800
little over 90 minutes here,
approaching 100 here approaching
1571
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,100
100 minutes.
Appreciate the messages guys,
1572
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:20,800
from all of you out there, send
those in we do these lives will
1573
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,400
dress them if we can, don't try
to throw us off our game know,
1574
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:28,900
we're explode focused and Not
quite drunk enough.
1575
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,100
There we go.
So that is going to wrap up this
1576
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:34,500
others.
Not that drunk, we're not that
1577
01:38:34,500 --> 01:38:36,400
drunk.
That's going to wrap up.
1578
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,300
This is the boundary Point
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1579
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:41,700
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1580
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:46,400
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1581
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,900
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1591
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