Hokie Pharmacist and the King of Blacksburg himself Jeremy Counts joins us to discuss Whit Babcock's decision to retain Justin Fuente, the impact that decision will have on the Blacksburg community and the fan base at large, and what possible short and long-term outcomes to expect from that decision. (This one earns that capital E for explicit)
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner.
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Brian siglo, I am Curtis Wilson.
And tonight, folks, we have a
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very special guest joining up to
talk some hokey football and
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other things in between.
We were looking a few weeks ago
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and we're like we need somebody
who's a Virginia Tech football
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fan.
We need somebody who's an alumni
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of the school.
We need somebody who donates his
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hard-earned money.
We need somebody who sponsors
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Athletics and we need somebody
who lives and works in
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Blacksburg.
And there's only one in Bryan.
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I'll let you introduce him King.
Jeremy counts of Blacksburg
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ladies and gentlemen.
Jeremy how the hell are you man?
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Hey, hey,
The conference, we had the
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signing day press conference,
and now we're sitting here,
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we're officially fully into
transfer portal season, so we've
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kind of lived an entire like
offseason in about 3 days here.
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So I think everybody's stress
levels a little high right now.
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Oh yeah about that and buying a
house this week.
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So that's fucking great.
We've got all of this bullshit
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going down and it's a roller
coaster.
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It is a shit roller coaster and
it has went off the fucking
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rails.
It is like whenever that person
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got launched from a fucking
slingshot, in Pigeon Forge onto
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the highway, that's what I feel
like right now because it is all
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over the goddamn Place.
Lazy Hillman Hokie nation is now
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the person they got launched in
The Pigeon Forge Highway, we are
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scattered on the concrete.
We are getting run over by
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rednecks.
Coming from everywhere to have a
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great time.
In Pigeon.
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Forge, I love you.
Billy Mecca.
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It's my me to known coasters are
the best.
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Yeah, dude, I'm going to
Gatlinburg fucking hillbilly.
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Nigga, like me and Emily.
I'm are there.
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Oh, yes.
Yeah.
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Technically Marnie, who is my
best friend.
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Always, Said he could marry me.
He wasn't able to marry us
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because of Virginia walls are
weird because he lived in
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Kentucky right now.
Like that's where he lives.
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So he couldn't technically
Marius in Virginia because our
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laws are dumb.
And so me and Emily went, we got
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we got redneck hitch in
Gatlinburg, a Tobar Gatlinburg
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and went down in the moonshot
afterwards.
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So, yeah, that was great.
So, we were married for like a
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week before.
We were like and the ceremony
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and stuff.
Okay.
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Okay.
It's hilarious though that
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Jeremy talks about his wife
because, you know, we started
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this podcast and not long back
after, you know, Jeremy would
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sons of Saturday and some other
guys, you start listening up and
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you slide into our DM's with
some shit in there.
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You did wider out in.
It was very nice, but then, all
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of a sudden, you know, things
here and there and won't Sunday
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morning.
He pops us a picture of
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something he's doing with his
wife.
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And I sit there and I'm like
holy shit this girl looks so
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fucking familiar talk to Jeremy
but hey Jeremy is your
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girlfriend Virginia he's like
yeah listen man I know this is
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really random.
She might change from Halifax
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County and Jeremy.
She is can confirm, he was born
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and raised in Halifax County and
I'm sitting here.
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I'm like Jeremy that's where me
and Brian grew up.
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How, you know, how old is your
wife?
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He tells how she is, we're not
going to mention that because
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she's not going to kick me
whenever she sees me in the near
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future in Blacksburg 33, you
said it.
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Not a throw off the hook.
So where is she?
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But she was in high school.
And
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everybody listening.
Stop pause go.
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Follow him when In Blacksburg go
by the Main Street Pharmacy.
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Give him a visit during game
days.
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I'm sure he's got a bunch of
stuff in there.
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You need for after the game.
Oh yeah.
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I probably won't be there on
game day, someone will be the
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cold Jeremy, the extreme
rational fan like you're
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rational when you're come to
your takes, but you're very
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extreme with how you put those
takes out there.
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I'm very logical but I'm also
really passionate in my lat if
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that makes sense.
He's absolutely - lately.
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Wake Forest off.
We usually have a loss like that
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every year.
I was just it up to hey it's us.
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It fucking happens.
Whatever we're moving on and
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that was how I felt and then
goddamn Liberty happened,
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fucking Liberty happened and
that.
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Oh my God, that was a shit show,
like even getting into patient
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and been in the game with us
even getting to the stupid
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timeout.
And the stupid defensiveness up
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at the end of the day game even
without that, it should not have
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been that close.
And I know I Super Bowl.
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They were coming out and they
were ready for it.
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You have to win those games.
These are games, you have to
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get, and I was around for, you
know, the JMU lost back in the
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day.
I was around for all that
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bullshit.
We cannot afford to have losses
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like that, right now.
We're trying to reprogram.
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Yep.
Yep.
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If Was, you know, you know,
talking about JMU at the time,
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we could recover from a loss
like that both on the recruiting
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front, you know, rallying the
next reference here.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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You can recover from that.
It's very hard to recover from
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that when you're already,
treading water in the ACC.
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And that's, that's where the
Hokies are right now.
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They're treading water in the
ACC treading water, will we see?
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And then the next week, they
play their nuts off against
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Miami and then everybody forgets
how to play in the fourth
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quarter.
God, I was at that game.
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I'm in felt the entire game.
Felt like we were going to win
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that game and I was like, you
know what, you know, fuck the
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Livery.
At least we're going to be Miami
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and we're going to go on we're
gonna fucking beat UVA and I was
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like it's gonna be all right?
And then it just stops.
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It's like anytime it comes down
to us having to score some
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points at the end.
We just can't seem to fucking do
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it.
No attention.
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I was full force that day.
I brought out the crown and the
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Myrtle and everything.
The turn is the turnover expert.
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Alleged promise, I'll never
break out again, because they
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game because it the entire time,
it felt like we were winning.
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Yeah, I felt like we were going
to win.
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We're going to right the wrong,
but the fourth quarter happened
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and we well, we suck the fat
one.
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I'm going to just add that the
next week hit and that was I was
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on here.
Liberty was the end for me for
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Coach?
Like, I'm over you like you?
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When people are telling me who
went to that game like they
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couldn't get the guys up.
Yeah.
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No, you can't get the guys up to
a team, you should smash.
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Yeah, you and that is on your
entire coaching staff.
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So yeah.
Well with Liberty, the pit game.
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That's what happened.
Really really.
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That was my Rubicon.
I was blacked out.
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Tina's house.
And we're sitting there, and I'm
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downstairs, I'm with a bunch of
college students, down there and
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Reggie and frankenteen and where
I'll watch a ballgame and by the
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second half when they start
pulling away, I just, I'm just
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going at it.
I finish a fifth of jmo and then
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I seen Richie and he brings me a
bottle Buffalo Trace.
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So I'm just taking pulls on
Buffalo Trace.
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I've got these poor kids in
there and I'm just like yelling
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this is why y'all gotta donate
to the Hokey Club.
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Here.
Because that night, that was
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bronze Rubicon.
So that it 11:00, I put the kids
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to bed, he puts the kids to bed,
we put two wives to bed, and I'm
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sitting here, he's pounding on
Pam's, and I'm sitting here and
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I'm pouring shots and he looked.
And he's like, what the fuck you
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doing.
I'm like, I don't know what else
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to do and I know you're supposed
to, I don't drink, like, I used
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to About two to three shots and
bring about eight beers.
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Yeah.
Whoo.
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Let's just say when my
four-year-old three-year-old
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woke up at 6:30, the next
morning, my wife is pregnant.
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I had to go.
I was just glad she didn't know.
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Hope she doesn't listen.
So tomorrow's.
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Don't okay, so that game
happens.
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You get blackout.
We get hammered late-night
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recording podcasts in the
Clemson game.
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When we have a week off, then
Clemson happens.
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And for three quarters of
Clemson.
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It was like, okay.
Absolutely, we need to get to
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the point where we're putting
the same team on the field every
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week.
Yes.
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Because right now I have no idea
what team is going to come out
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week to week.
And generally what I expect is
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we're going to play exactly to
whatever our damn competition is
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now.
And you all know me.
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I actually love food.
Like I thought food was a great
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hire.
I was all for the extension
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through are too rough or
Seasons.
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It was like okay we pretty much
got a delayed rebuild, we do.
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This is going to happen through
this.
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Whenever we had some struggles,
I was like, you know, it's
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covid.
It's whatever.
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It's, you know, we're going to
get through this, but it is just
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it's too much.
This is too much.
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This season was too much and to
make those calls and This and I
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hate the people that are just
like, oh well, it's just a
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football game.
It's just what they don't
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fucking have a goddamn clue.
This isn't just a football game.
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This program is so huge to the
economy here in Blacksburg and I
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represent these businesses.
I do, I go, I volunteer my time
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on boards for these businesses,
I do everything I can for this
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community and I whenever I feel
like like, we're not being
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heard, or we're not like people
are not Hearing about it, it
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upsets me because the better
this team does, the better it is
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for the economy better, it is
for the school, better is for
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our culture.
And I think we're losing sight
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of our culture and I think our
cultural decline started in
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2007.
Whenever Jim Weaver made the
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huge fuck up of getting rid of
stick it in, that was just a
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huge fuck you, too.
Virginia Tech game, day,
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culture, and downhill, and
they've been cracking down on it
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forever, because art everyone
goes on About SEC tailgates.
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This is that give me a fucking
game day in Blacksburg any
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fucking day.
And back in the day it was my
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goddamn wild.
That's what people fucking
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understand and people are losing
side of that.
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They're losing sight of what
made us special.
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And it's heartbreaking for me to
see because they don't just they
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don't get it.
And it's sad and I'm fucking
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done with it.
Yeah, those are.
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Haven't lived in those who
didn't go through that.
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Read and see what what it was
about.
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Those teams were about and what
tailgating there was about and
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what the just the whole game day
atmosphere that you're talking
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about like electric if it's fun
when you're in the stadium.
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Like it's not just about running
out and jump into salmon.
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It was not looking quarters of
that shit.
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Yeah, I don't I feel like we've
lost some of that to it.
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Yeah, it used to be for fucking
quarters of it used to be My
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first game was 03.
My first game was 03 UCF Labor
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Day weekend, 330 kit.
That's got like it's still
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ingrained in my mind.
Big man's over here.
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Was 2002 Rutgers, right?
Yes sir, we remember that 17 and
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18 years gone by, and when you
walked into we were, we were on
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prices for because that's where
I guys tailgated, that's where
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our buddies.
Who went to Tech tailgate,
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that's where we were before, we
could go downtown.
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No, I never had a fake ID, I
just dealt with what I dealt
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with sitting there in your
parting, you're having fun,
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you're meeting people left and
right, and you feel the energy,
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and then all of a sudden,
whatever time kickoff was me and
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Brandon go there, but whoever
did they were like time to go,
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gotta walk.
Gotta walk to get to the stadium
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to get him.
Yep.
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And as you started going, it was
like this flood.
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It was the for cause you saw the
peel.
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The first time I went, it was
just like, like, I kind of get
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this feeling like, okay, every
like everybody knows we're going
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to the stadium, you get in, you
jump for the first time.
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You feel it that game, though,
going into the third and fourth
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quarters tackles easily, win the
game.
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Pit Mill was electric.
It still was this hostility like
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we want to beat your fucking
brains in.
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Yes, you by 50 and as You stated
the Germany as we got into the
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ACC as 2007.
They take stick it in a way.
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It's like we got less and less
nasty.
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Yes we did.
Unfortunately what happened was
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2007 was Russ for us, we came
out and we had the shooting that
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happened and then that happened
and that was used against us -
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Only four years in recruiting
and everything else that
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happened and then we go along
and you know, they're taking
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away, stick it in because their
words are huge.
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There was just this huge
microscope on Blacksburg at the
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top on and they took away, stick
it in because of that that was
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their call.
You know, they didn't want to
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have us you know out there
having fun on camera.
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God fucking forbid that and they
take that away and then of
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course in 2007, all the Michael
Vick stuff happened.
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Yeah.
So we had Michael Vick was you
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know the the player from
Virginia Tech in a lot of ways
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that of course we had like Bruce
Smith and everyone from before.
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For bit, Michael Vick was like
this next level Superstar.
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He was a world Superstar.
Yep, you fucking dick.
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And he represented Us in.
Then he went down.
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So we had all these cultural
hits.
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And Jim Weaver has taken away,
goddamn, stick it in right in
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the middle of all this turmoil
and it was one of the worst
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decisions anyone could have ever
made and it was a huge blow to
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our culture.
So, we just took a lot of blows
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that year and it was, it was
rough. it was it was hard to
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watch but that's 13 years ago
this year and still you still
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think over the last 13 years,
though, some ACC titles were won
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bowl games, were made, you know,
10-win Seasons happened and what
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probably irritates Probably you
more than us is when you hear
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the freaking thing of Virginia
Tech, has what third most living
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don't alumni right now.
And then, someone such as
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yourself who is really looking
into it like seeing the amount
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of donors in a.
What you did with that Buffalo
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Trace, I hope it's stuck to some
of those 18 night 21, 22
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year-old kids.
Make it 25 two times a year.
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Four times a year, eight times a
year, 12 times a year.
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If that's all you have great.
But what where do you think that
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fucked up?
Do you think that was Weaver's
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fucking Jim Weaver?
That's full-on again, Weaver
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Jim, Weaver only cared about big
donors.
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And That's where a good chunk of
our change come from, but Jim
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Weaver left us in quite a bit of
a hole because Jim Weaver to his
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credit, did give a fuck about
football.
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That's all he cared about.
And that's kind of why we were
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in a hole, but he also only
cared about me donors.
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So he didn't have this entire,
he didn't realize that there's
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an entire base that you can tap
in donating and he didn't
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capitalize on the years that we
were great to get us a donor
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base, to keep us there.
And we were So behind we relied
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Forever on just our name to
bring recruits to bring everyone
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else here and Frank's been gone
for a while now.
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Yep.
Yep.
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We aren't you know a perennial
like ACC title container.
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We're not anymore.
Well my day 10-win seasons were
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expected.
Yep.
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That was that was expected.
Like we were always in the
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National conversation.
That's what we were used to.
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And now it's just like we don't
care and I don't mind, I
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absolutely love our non-revenue
Sports.
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I love all that we should be
spending for that and what I
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don't like is the fact that the
university is choosing not to
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fund our football program the
right way.
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And I know that that's changing
and may whole said it's
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changing.
Everyone else has said is
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changing and we are getting more
money.
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We've got more donors on board
for football Improvement program
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and we did needed to need to
update a lot of the facilities.
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So I understand a lot of that.
But we let our fucking cash
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bail.
Starve.
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In the meantime, we did not take
care of our fucking cash cow or
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what are in our culture is
about.
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Yep.
They're all converging Tech is
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the football team that he draw.
If you're not eating that, then
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you're letting other things
slowly die.
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They might look like they're
doing, okay?
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But they are slowly dying.
Like, I love her basketball
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team.
That has been absolutely
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wonderful to see Buzz.
I got real mad when Buzz left,
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but I understand why Buzz
laughs.
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I understand.
You know, he wasn't gonna be
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here for long but I appreciate
everything, but a stiff for The
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end when we found you, everybody
knew we're signing an assassin
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to get our program.
No, no one ever had the
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expectation.
He's gonna be myself that he
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was, you know, that's come down
in the last, I mean, really
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starting like late, We're just
like one thing after another.
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After another, just the hits
keep coming.
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It's been fucking - even the
most optimistic person is like
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this ain't it the same it.
Well, hold on.
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The majority of people that
probably we just talked with and
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in us three talking amongst
ourselves.
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Another people fans were about
to win today.
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This year was going into after
last year, after the end of the
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seasons, like it's going to be
okay, he looks like he's
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stabilized.
All season henin's.
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Coming back as quarterback.
Look like the offensive lines.
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Don't look good.
Didn't covid happen.
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But everybody had coded,
everybody.
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This wasn't just like well state
of Virginia can't do jack shit.
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No one could do jack shit, no
more.
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And so we get into the season,
we open up with NC State and
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it's like, okay, yeah, this is
what I'm talking about.
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Braxton's gonna fucking crush
them.
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It felt so good.
And then like the first six
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games happened and where we're
going to revert in.
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But like it's okay.
This is what we expect.
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We're only going to win four of
the last, you know, four of the
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last five, we're going to finish
the shading three.
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We're on a good track, but then
when all the other stuff start
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have, all of us, I'm not going
to say we're positive or wins
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because we're not certain people
who this is.
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Okay, we're doing this.
No no man no dog.
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Huh.
Huh?
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Famous.
If the as bad as the offseason
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is, we're going to hit the
portal on a few minutes.
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Here is bad as the offseason
spin.
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Tennis last year's 58,000 down
obviously from The Glory Days.
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When all three of us were you
were going to school there.
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Me and Brian had our buddies
are.
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We could get tickets to go up
watching games, stay all weekend
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party.
Drink we know what came down.
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It came down from 62,000 and
2017, when we were nine and four
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competing for the ACC, One games
competed with Clemson that
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night, I know we lost by 14 but
that game was still a
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hard-fought game 58,000 there
are people within this fan base
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that they everybody's just going
to come back next year.
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No they are not going to just
come back.
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This one.
I take care of this community.
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These other like the restaurant
to the bars downtown?
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Yeah.
They're not going to be able to
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fucking afford rent, like
they're struggling right now
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because the covid coming to you.
Give us a mediocre a season.
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Try to come back and we've lost
half our fucking office to the
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goddamn transfer.
You think we're going to bring
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in fans?
You think we're going to get out
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of ticket packages sales that?
Well we're not.
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Nope and I mean that's the big
thing.
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So Let's let's look at it from
just you know we're talking
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about game day, we're talking
about promotional materials at
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the teens putting out, you've
lost like three guys that you
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were featuring prominently on
your 2020 promotion material to
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the transfer portal.
Yeah that can't happen.
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No we've never had someone just
start for two years straight at
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quarterback.
What?
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That tell you this hour.
The same starting quarterback,
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who knows?
I'm not known for a while since
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Michael Brewer.
Fucking no us is what we were.
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We've all those years were
poverty but we're still going
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out.
And I'm sitting, like number
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one, Ohio State, we were still
feel the good deed.
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We thought that was fucking
poverty.
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Look at this.
Now, goddamn.
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Hey, we beating UVA though.
Would be maybe.
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Yeah.
Hey, what about?
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I don't think he's Cutthroat
enough.
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I think, I think he's a guy that
just likes to coach football.
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You got to be able to, you know,
cut it up with the donors.
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You got to be able to cut a guy
limits of.
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He's not cutting the mustard.
You got to be able to engage the
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fans like this shit.
You're painting is for Pierre
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P5.
I feel like we're at a point now
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where you know food goes out and
has a decent press conference
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and takes responsibility for
what happened on the field and
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we're say, are we cleared that
fucking bar?
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That's a low ass bar to clear.
I like this press conference, it
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made me feel better, but But
also I know that this is just
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making me feel better.
That's the thing is, I was a
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fool.
I think he's great and I think
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he's a hell of a coach.
I think he's excellent.
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I think he's got a great offense
of mine.
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I think that he is good at what
he wants to do.
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Problem is, is he isn't that CEO
top coach?
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It takes to run a P5 program and
that is the issue.
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And whenever you got people that
are underperforming, I mean you
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got to start cut.
Yeah.
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Like that's that's the thing and
whenever you have multiple
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reports of certain people
certain coaches phoning it in
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and saying the season doesn't
matter.
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It doesn't matter.
Fuck him.
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Exact time for a corn.
Cob of the flicker is that I'm
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not saying any names, and I'm
not doing that, because who
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knows, if it is, you know,
troops true.
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It's true.
My thing is is whenever you have
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that happening that is a issue
that is you cannot get your kids
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prepared whenever you're saying
this season doesn't matter if
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fucking matter to me it fucking
matters to all the fans.
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It matters to Blacksburg and
baddest our economy even though
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people can't come.
It's still good for our image.
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It's good for our culture, it
matters.
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So when I hear those things, it
makes me Furious and then I hear
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all this and then we go.
To the roller coaster that has
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been happening the last few
days, and it has been a
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shitstorm and I'm getting
everything.
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I hear, especially leading up to
it.
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It was, I mean, it was dead-on
and you all, you all know my
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people as much as I do, and it
was the same around town.
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It was just like coaching
change, it's coming.
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This is what we're doing.
I was like, all right, can I ask
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you a question Jeremy because
for me, And Brian you know we're
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up here in Richmond.
We went to a game last year, we
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went downtown with a sharpie and
went to tots.
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We parked and media went up to
lot one.
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Tailgaters from guys from back
home.
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So now the first time we went in
a couple years but let me ask
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this since 2018, because 20,
1927, 2017, and 2016 were
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sunshine, and Roses, we were 19
and eight and two seasons.
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You like, you're really into
them.
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Like thank you.
We got him for a day.
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Okay, we're going to be
competing every year. 2018
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happens.
What has been the mood in the
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town itself with?
I'm sure, you know, alumni.
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And, you know, business owners,
since that bad season, the shit
448
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,100
that happened last year going up
to you.
449
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,400
What's been the feel inside of
the Town itself.
450
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,300
Bad season was written off.
2018, was written off
451
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400
completely.
I mean, people are you like
452
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,200
okay, this sucks but, you know,
we just, we lost a lot and We
453
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,900
did.
I mean through both 2016, 2017
454
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,900
it was we lost a lot of our
tailing them and we have it
455
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,000
replaced them.
We had to redo a lot of things
456
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,300
Jerrod going early was not
great.
457
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:53,500
Bucky orderly was not great,
it's satisfactory bit.
458
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,900
I really think that 2017 season
could have been really special,
459
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:00,400
I don't draw it.
Especially here in more and
460
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000
more.
I know Hendon who hit the
461
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,200
transfer portal.
I love you handy.
462
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,200
You you go out.
You be great somewhere else.
463
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:14,400
I'll always root for you Gerard.
He was taken such a beating in
464
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,100
their scheme because we use our
quarterbacks like fullbacks a
465
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,500
lot.
Yep.
466
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:25,400
And he was taking a beating and
that's that's a bit of an issue
467
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,500
whenever you know you've got
Jerrod who had a family to think
468
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:33,700
of he went one year too early.
He would stay one more year.
469
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,500
His entire life would be
different.
470
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,300
Yeah.
And we had abused Him so much
471
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,600
that he felt like he had to go
even though if he stayed one
472
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,500
more year, it would have helped
us draft rating.
473
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,800
It would have helped everything.
Is it working?
474
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400
He could have broken his own
records Jerrod with excellent.
475
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,500
It to him.
He was making the right decision
476
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,400
because I think he got some bad
advice.
477
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400
And I think it's because he was
afraid, he was going to get
478
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600
injured and that's a problem.
Whenever we're having our best
479
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,500
Helen afraid that, we're
misusing them, and we're losing
480
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,600
out on them too early and they
go on.
481
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,500
And I mean, these are these are
people's lives.
482
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,000
And they're making these
decisions based on the fact that
483
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,300
we may actually get them hurt.
You know, maybe not run your
484
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,800
quarterback until he is body is
destroyed.
485
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,300
Well it's I know we love are
scrambling cubies here today but
486
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,700
you know scramble is different
than running quarterback than
487
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:34,000
our own third nineteen exactly
like we don't need to hook Ur,
488
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400
the only two quarterbacks, he
was fucking behind and rushing
489
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,800
with The two fucking option,
quarterbacks at Army and Navy
490
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
and it was, it wasn't a large
margin.
491
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:47,000
It was like ten carries and
you're like the fucking and then
492
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,400
obviously, you want to get
somebody fired up.
493
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,900
Hey, Jeremy asked, Brian about
third and six quarterback
494
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,200
Powers.
Oh my fucking God.
495
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,000
I'm with you.
Brian dude.
496
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,500
You don't know, hey, Jeremy when
they do that and then they roll
497
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,900
out.
BJ for a 53-yard field gold.
498
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,100
My my phone is going, what the
fuck?
499
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,800
And I'm just like, big guys.
Got something to say later on
500
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
tonight.
So, okay, let's go back to black
501
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,100
bird.
After the Duke game. 2019 was a
502
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,100
field.
Not good.
503
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,699
Duke game was rough.
It was that's the thing as we
504
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:38,699
were we were honoring.
God, it was that was it ninety?
505
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,400
Nineteen ninety nineteen.
Yeah, how did you know we were
506
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Not much to ask like, I do
businesses.
507
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,200
That would sponsor that I would
sponsor that I would buy all the
508
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,800
food.
I would do, whatever I had set
509
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
up a desk, they could go and
they can interact with the fans.
510
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,100
They can sign some shit.
It would be a boy.
511
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:27,200
Last your 140, head?
Out of space.
512
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,900
Yeah, okay.
And I said to Brian, like,
513
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:34,200
that's the spot and you really
have something cool rap along
514
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
that.
So we're sell tickets to fans to
515
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,700
say, would you like to go hang
out with some of the Hokey
516
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:43,000
Legends hundred dollars?
You can have an hour with a few?
517
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,800
How many fans would be long ago.
Exactly.
518
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,300
That's what you Sergio's, a
Christians Bird.
519
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:54,700
Come on some stuff here.
It's her just chomping at the
520
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,400
bit to try to do something.
Things.
521
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,700
These are layouts man.
They are missing you too hard to
522
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:04,400
do and it feels like there's a
huge disconnect with with a lot
523
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,400
of things that are going on.
In these obvious things that we
524
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,600
can do.
This is not hard.
525
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,100
These are things that are
suggested and they're just like,
526
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:19,400
yeah, like the king of the good
news on him and Sydney has a
527
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:21,700
former player tailgate every
week.
528
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,600
For those who want to attend it
Hammond fucking City division,
529
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,100
three football.
And it didn't If I wanted to go
530
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:31,200
there, there's free food for me
every damn Saturday, man.
531
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,400
And you don't even have to do
much every fucking Heaven, just
532
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,300
like dishes from the dining
halls and I would eat dead up,
533
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,200
man.
You don't have to do that much.
534
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Bring us some fucking fantastic
Frank's London, Broil all that
535
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,400
shit.
That everyone's like, just like
536
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,100
yes, the fucking one has one,
bro.
537
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Bring that out.
Do that at the tailgate have all
538
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,800
the old hokey favors?
People like me with eat that.
539
00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:03,100
Uh-oh, people love that shit.
If any if you had guys like
540
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:08,400
surge there, Dave on Morgan, you
know, and to us those were big
541
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,400
players.
Hey to the entire other world.
542
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,600
It's well tie rod was good in
the Edmonds and you know Vic and
543
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:21,900
white motherfucker like guys.
Like oh god.
544
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:28,000
Um like Sergio, I'm trying to
think freaking jail Grove life.
545
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,300
English boy long ago, Tweety we
work with Tweety's bad.
546
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:44,300
Awesome.
Yeah but it's like those easy
547
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,400
things where you ask Virginia
Tech Pam, I'll ask you to
548
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,700
Jeremy, you think of Alonzo
Tweety?
549
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:53,900
What's the first place?
You think of My, what the named
550
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:57,000
Alonzo Tweety?
The first place.
551
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
You think of when you think of
Alonzo, Tweety, fuck, did you
552
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,300
put me on the spot?
Will take you back to 2011
553
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,400
against Miami.
The last tackle Tweety made that
554
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,300
tackle.
Oh fuck you man.
555
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,500
Well the only reason we do like
his pops.
556
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,600
Yeah well that piece of There
Are Places their players like
557
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
that.
Then I can tell you right?
558
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,100
Like I could say who's your most
fan?
559
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:33,900
Random poke that only be random?
Yeah.
560
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:40,200
Just randomly Yeah.
Nikki Giovanni.
561
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:55,300
I love Nikki.
That is hard.
562
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:16,300
All right, I like that.
He was absolutely amazing and he
563
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,600
he just stuck with me and of
course, we have our football
564
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,700
players.
I mean, Anyway.
565
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:30,000
But yeah, it's hard to think of
so many people in the league for
566
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
my day.
Yeah, yeah.
567
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,500
So it's that's a grand random
for us.
568
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,100
Is like, okay, well they
released on a practice squad for
569
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,100
yaxha.
Yeah, exactly.
570
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:56,800
But it's like, how tough is it
to get these guys together?
571
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
But how tough is it for the
athletic department to Simply go
572
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,400
up and say let's create a
physician pay.
573
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,900
The person 65 thousand dollars a
year.
574
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,500
This is your job, you will
attempt to connect with every
575
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:15,000
hokey football alumni and you
will create a vents here on
576
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,500
campus during day and then
create events throughout the
577
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:19,900
state.
During the year to get these
578
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,700
guys together and talk and bring
unwanted You know, Hank fucking
579
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,300
needless jobs, they have on
campus.
580
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,300
I know exactly how many they
have on campus.
581
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,300
Don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying they can afford
582
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:43,200
a little extra for alumni.
Outreach exactly diffic to our
583
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,600
former players and I know Sergio
would do it.
584
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,200
He's dying to do it.
Get Sergio to do it.
585
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,200
I think Dwight would do it, but
I also don't think Dwight would
586
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000
leave Leave the 757 right now.
Yeah Dwight's not only do I
587
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,800
don't like going on there but
you know what this is not what
588
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:17,700
he is because he is a.
Why couldn't you just say will
589
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:22,000
make serves the primary will let
the white and run you said some
590
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,500
pops.
Is the widest, a 70 Nova,
591
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,100
there's a noble, but he's got a
lot of his stuff he works with
592
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:34,200
his in 7576.
He was still in the 757.
593
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,600
That's why I because he had all
the he has like Victory life and
594
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,300
everything.
Yeah, I think that that's still
595
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,000
in the Senate by someone.
I think he lives in Nova.
596
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,300
If I'm not mistaken.
God you tell me.
597
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,300
You couldn't stroke him a check
for 25,000 a year to do that
598
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,600
part.
Time to go create the gym
599
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,200
because I give a thousand a
month just to do that.
600
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:56,700
Shit.
That's just, what are you going
601
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,000
to do?
You're going to create your own,
602
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,800
what is it?
The 501 case is that the
603
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,100
nonprofit.
Let's let's create a pledge fund
604
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:17,300
and then just let no,
I'm not doing that to him.
605
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,300
Literally, that's all and
everyone was talking about.
606
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:56,500
It was.
Yeah, and it's not even just
607
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:58,300
like, randos coming in.
Talk to me.
608
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,200
You all know like everyone in
the know knew it was happening.
609
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,400
Yeah, it was all over Twitter.
It was all over message boards.
610
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,300
It was all over Word of Mouth.
Even counting all the noise out,
611
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,000
everything else.
Everyone in the know that you
612
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,300
all know that I know.
The people that aren't out there
613
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,800
tweeting about this stuff or
talking, they were saying the
614
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,500
same thing.
I was hearing the same thing
615
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:32,200
from people, that's just what I
thought we were going to do and
616
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,000
don't get me wrong.
I I don't want this to happen.
617
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
No.
Because I want to, to be the
618
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,900
greatest coach to ever be
because I think he's great coach
619
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:49,600
and I think he is a good person.
Let me know what you to succeed.
620
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,500
The problem is is I don't think
he can hear.
621
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,900
I think it's a bad fit and I
think he could go somewhere else
622
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,400
and do that.
But I think he came into a bad
623
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,700
situation.
I think he came into a place
624
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,300
where the infrastructure was not
there to give him the county
625
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:08,000
needed, because I don't think he
is a great recruiter, but I
626
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600
think he is an excellent coach
once he has them.
627
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,600
So we're essentially saying he's
not a guy that can go in.
628
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,700
He needs help getting them in
the building.
629
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,800
Once they're in the building
striking, do think and do some
630
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,700
action.
We all see the video from
631
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,700
ordered a night thing is once
their players and he's coaching
632
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,700
them, he's going to be a great
coach.
633
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,500
Ouch.
Okay.
634
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600
That is what I'm saying.
He's going to put them in
635
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,200
situations thing is he has to
know his limitations.
636
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:41,900
Yeah, I think he's good.
I think what he did in 2016 2017
637
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,000
shows that he knows what he's
doing.
638
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:50,300
Yep.
The problem is I think he has to
639
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:54,700
have people around him to do a
lot of things for him.
640
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,100
He can't be the person to go out
and sell the program.
641
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:02,500
Even though I like him
personally, Everyone likes him
642
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:06,600
personally, I don't think he's
that charismatic person to go
643
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,700
out.
He's the polar office owed a
644
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:13,100
bow, but also, I think he's five
billion times the coach Dabo
645
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:16,000
could ever fucking dream of
being caused a boatswain, he's
646
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,500
nothing.
But a fucking charlatan at
647
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:21,500
channeling are funneling money
through a goddamn truth.
648
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:24,400
That's all he fucking is fuck.
Dabo Swinney.
649
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,300
And he used that shooting to
fucking negatively recruit us
650
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:28,800
and I'll take that against him
too.
651
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:37,900
Fucking die.
So do you think that can sell
652
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:41,600
the program right now that are
on our staff that theft?
653
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,500
Yeah I'm thinking tab J, Hamm
and great.
654
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,500
Both of those guys are squares
Manning.
655
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:56,500
I'm counting it.
Jay Happ nasty but I was a
656
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,100
freshman when he was a senior R
& J.
657
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,700
Hamm was, I was one of those
freshman.
658
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,600
I was good enough to get in the
game.
659
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,400
Just a little bit.
This man.
660
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,700
He was good.
Yeah, I know what you do
661
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,000
anything with him.
He was a running back back then.
662
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:13,800
Yep.
Yeah it's just one of those
663
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,900
freak athletes and just mad you
can do anything with him.
664
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:25,100
My cousin Rob who was also a
freak athlete but he he swatted
665
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,800
J.
Hamm in basketball and that that
666
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,300
will always stick with me.
That's right.
667
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:35,300
Was a sophomore in the time?
Career highlight right there?
668
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,000
I don't know.
Rob had a lot of career
669
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,100
highlights.
That was just one of those
670
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:49,300
things that it was fun.
This have you met has been there
671
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:58,300
and this staff honestly can't
talk about that.
672
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Okay.
Yeah, that makes sense.
673
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,300
Give me a few words to what's
press conference on Monday.
674
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:42,800
She need a
yeah, so it's like what we're
675
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:55,000
trying to build a goddamn, the
people who complain Shut the
676
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,100
fuck up.
Come on.
677
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:23,900
Y'all.
But you know what?
678
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:27,200
Pissed me off more.
Well you can't just do this and
679
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400
just tear it down.
Well, you dumb fuck.
680
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,700
Excuse me.
If you like to it I think he's
681
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:33,300
good.
You dumb.
682
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,300
Fuck you saw it just tapping in
the portal.
683
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,900
You have a 3 and 9 season, it's
not going to be torn down.
684
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,600
It's going to be burnt down and
there's going to be no
685
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,300
structure.
Then we're going to figure out
686
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:47,600
what the fuck, dude, he actually
brought it up in the press
687
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,600
conference that, well, if we get
rid of him, we're not going to
688
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,600
have half our players.
It's my first.
689
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,500
Look what's going on right now.
Just say that.
690
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,200
Jesus, goddamn Christ.
Not the players that were
691
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,500
sitting third and fourth string
on the bench.
692
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:11,000
We lost his mother.
Yeah, he saw.
693
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,700
What was happening on Twitter?
He saw.
694
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,600
What the record was this year?
He saw the former players
695
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
chiming in.
He saw all of this stuff.
696
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:31,000
This, you know, you are astray.
It's just He was like, oh no.
697
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:03,900
Fantastic job with everything he
has touched except football.
698
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,200
All right?
That is the thing.
699
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,100
That is the trade-off when it
is.
700
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:12,500
God damn good at his job.
He's just I don't know what's
701
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:15,100
going on with football.
I don't know why this is
702
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,300
happening.
That's the thing is we got our
703
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,600
great athletic athletic
department overall.
704
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,200
We need more funding and we
destroyed the Rector and we've
705
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,300
got a, we've got Foo who is a
great coach.
706
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,600
But we're not getting the
results we want in football.
707
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:43,100
So there are infrastructure
issues, there are funding
708
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,000
issues.
There are a lot of issues.
709
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,500
I don't give a fuck.
Make it work.
710
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,000
Jesus, fucking Christ.
The thing that pisses me off the
711
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:11,000
most.
Yeah, I understand but I don't
712
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,700
really fucking care.
Is Big Ten school.
713
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,500
You don't have to.
You do this huge thing, we're
714
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,700
bringing all in the suit.
You're not going to have a bunch
715
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:24,800
of students want to come here.
If we don't have a culture who
716
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400
the fuck would want to come?
And just like go to a college
717
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,900
that don't have a culture, can
we show Sands the enrollment
718
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,100
figures going up and up and up
relative to the football
719
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:47,600
success.
We can show impact That's a
720
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,500
really long story.
The 95 boom went to Sugar Bowl
721
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,300
and then the night it were the,
it went from like nice steady
722
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:02,300
growth to look.
And it's like, first of all,
723
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:19,400
begin
Make a lot of statements or
724
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,600
judgments on anyone when I don't
know them or their thought
725
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,500
process because I'm a
fair-minded person.
726
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:30,400
So it's worth the but the
college football bubble is going
727
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,300
to burst.
He said that what six years ago
728
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:38,600
Braun seven years ago called I
want to say, I thought so 2014,
729
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
he said well college football
football bubble is going to
730
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,500
burst with the revenues.
What did He just not see the
731
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,700
SEC.
Get a 55 million dollar purse
732
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:53,100
full contract fucking Disney.
I don't think he quite
733
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:58,100
understands even if there are
attendance issues across the
734
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:04,600
board, there's still a lot of
goddamn TV money and that TV
735
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600
money and there's still a lot of
culture that brings kids into
736
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,800
want to come here.
Yeah.
737
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:12,100
Just want to go to a boring ass
school.
738
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,900
I don't know what to tell him,
but anyone can go.
739
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,300
Get a degree fucking anywhere.
Now, they consider their house
740
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,400
to get it in degree.
The reason the kids go to
741
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,200
college is to college
experience.
742
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,200
If they're paid a premium for it
and you're going, you're getting
743
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,000
the fucking experience and
you're getting a better
744
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,500
education and you're you're
getting everything that you
745
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:35,800
want.
But the case you were going to
746
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,400
come down, you're expanding your
horizons and meeting new people.
747
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,300
You're doing things that
actually, you can.
748
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,900
I know you grew up out in the
Far, West part of State.
749
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,600
We grow on the south side part
of the state.
750
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,300
We grew up in a very quick sap,
Deep South way.
751
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:58,400
We're middle South, we grew up
in small communities that for
752
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600
us, going to college and getting
those experiences and meeting
753
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,400
people.
You know, you know, and I know
754
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,100
that if we'd stayed in our
hometowns, we would never have
755
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,800
the opportunity ever to get
there to do.
756
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,700
Those sort of things to meet
those sort of people to go to
757
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:17,200
game.
Um, dates to have these
758
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
experiences.
That's why.
759
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,800
And if you're taking turning a
blind eye to not thinking that
760
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,200
six seven times a year, when
there's a game and when there's
761
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,100
a big game, there's 120,000
people.
762
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,100
That's his View and you said,
you've never personally met him.
763
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,000
I'm like to have a conversation
with him and saying, what do you
764
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
think?
Because education is important.
765
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:48,900
Don't get me wrong.
Yes, they I don't think he's
766
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:51,700
quite getting it and I'm not
sure he will.
767
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:00,400
But we come from these small
towns and I came here because I
768
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,900
I actually came from a group of
people that were UVA fans,
769
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,500
believe it or not back in looks
outfits.
770
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:10,900
Virginia, my family, a bunch of
UVA fans because they had quote,
771
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:12,400
unquote UVA College.
It was.
772
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,400
And that's where my family went,
like in undergrad.
773
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:20,600
Okay.
And a girl, that's, the thing
774
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:28,200
is, I came here because I came
up here and he was like, dude,
775
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,600
you got to + Michael Vick was my
first First college football
776
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,800
game and that was awesome.
Fucking stomping Eva, he came
777
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,700
out and like I also my first NFL
game was Michael Vick versus
778
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,200
Peyton Manning, who my favorite
quarterback, saber, holy hell,
779
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,100
yeah, it was awesome.
Michael Vick when he can't die.
780
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:52,700
If you've not seen him throw a
pass in person.
781
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,300
It's a fucking laser.
Like hate it.
782
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,100
There's no there's no air under
the ball.
783
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,800
It's just fucking laser out
there.
784
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,400
It's amazing.
But more motion either.
785
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:13,500
It's a flick.
It just Let It Go.
786
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,800
That was a part of the culture
was Rock.
787
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Came here and Rob full-on was
just like Jeremy.
788
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,800
This is an amazing place to be
in college.
789
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,400
You need to come here and I was
like, of course, I need fucking
790
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,000
go there.
Rob's Probably sounds great.
791
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,700
It sounds amazing.
Yeah.
792
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,700
I mean do we think this sounds
really understands the impact
793
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:39,400
and we'll think about it. from
from your perspective, like the
794
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,100
economic impact of game day
weekends, like, just the
795
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:55,100
potential that's there and the
fact that it's not being Let me
796
00:56:55,100 --> 00:57:00,400
hear you ever went out into the
tailgate into the downtown area
797
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,900
when there is a game day and
literally the streets are
798
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:07,000
packed, bustling people in, and
out of all the shops people in
799
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,500
and out of all of the
restaurants, people Paine Park,
800
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:14,700
wherever they can park.
I want to say yes, but because
801
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:19,800
it's hard to avoid but it's one
of those things where I don't
802
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,700
know.
I mean, he has to have, but
803
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,800
you're mad.
Yeah, he's a prominent figure
804
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,800
out, they're out and about I
don't want to make a lot of
805
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,300
judgments on sands and his
character, because I don't
806
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,400
personally know.
Okay, but it's, that's not
807
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,700
something I will.
Do you all know me?
808
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:41,400
I will get fired up and I will
give my opinion on literally
809
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,200
anything, but I will reserve my
opinion when it comes to quite a
810
00:57:47,207 --> 00:57:48,900
bit of things that I don't quite
know.
811
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:51,600
Well, we're with you.
We with you for 20.
812
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800
Don't get us wrong.
I think you're good coach.
813
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,700
I think he's a good human being.
I think I want to hurt person,
814
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,100
but also you hear people, you
know, up here in our VA, we have
815
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
David to you, you know, great
sports writer for so many years
816
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,300
in Virginia.
And he says, if you step in the
817
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,700
office with him, he's so
different.
818
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
And you feel like if, if the
food that is just getting that
819
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,300
one-on-one sitting down in a
chair with you, You feel like if
820
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,500
you got him and some of the
donors like that the deal would
821
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,500
just be like just keep stroking
them checks like he's like me.
822
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,000
It's just everybody.
Every single person that I've
823
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,200
ever heard talk about him in a
smaller situation.
824
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:35,900
It's just like right?
Just he's great guy.
825
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:41,800
Now I lost my train of thought
there because I was at my beard
826
00:58:42,100 --> 00:59:22,300
and his partner.
It's one of those things where
827
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:28,600
it's a I'd like to hear from you
and your coordinators every
828
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,200
week, but I'd like to hear from
you on the radio in the markets
829
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,400
where your fan base is located.
I'd like to give you a lisp in
830
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Blacksburg.
I might see videos, listen to
831
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:47,700
the drive every day with Paul.
I absolutely love all three of
832
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:50,700
them.
I also get shit-faced drunk with
833
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:53,400
those people.
They are people.
834
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,600
They also have one of the best
radio shows out there.
835
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:58,500
Yeah.
I absolutely love them, and
836
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:01,600
people who don't listen to them,
need to listen to drive because
837
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:07,200
they are awesome.
But they have had issues in the
838
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,600
past, not so much with Foo, they
had a lot of problems with Buzz.
839
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:22,200
They Jeremy Why doesn't he go in
there for a 15-minute hit?
840
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:25,700
He could even pre-recorded with
them every week.
841
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Why doesn't he do that in
Richmond?
842
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,100
Why doesn't he do that in the
75?
843
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,400
Why doesn't he do that in Nova?
Why doesn't he do that up in
844
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,400
through the out?
The valley?
845
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,400
See that thing open it, dude,
you've got to get yourself out
846
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,900
there and then the other pieces
will be like during spring.
847
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:47,300
Open the scrimmages for people
in town and for the students you
848
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:50,900
can open it for 30 minutes.
At the end, people would come
849
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:56,800
what the people on the field.
It's the easy but it's the
850
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,700
funniest is, people are thinking
we have to do all these things.
851
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:02,600
Do the easiest stuff, you do,
the easiest stuff
852
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:25,100
that is.
I think a lot of our problems
853
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,000
have been us thinking what we
are doing is quite a good
854
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,500
enough, kind of like the high
school situation we have in 804
855
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:41,600
and 757 that we burned several
bridges in some of the more
856
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,700
prominent high schools in those
areas
857
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:04,400
and those kids and their
trainers.
858
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,800
Fuck all of them because guess
what?
859
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:11,400
Dollars just to continue,
talking to your five-star son.
860
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,900
No, go to hell, go fuck
yourself, I don't care.
861
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:17,300
No, they're sitting around
forever.
862
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,100
Oh, you need to recruit more,
you're going to send them out of
863
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,300
state.
Anyway, what the fuck do you
864
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:23,700
care?
You're just trying to push your
865
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:28,200
third tier athletes on us.
No, fuck you and fuck all them.
866
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:33,500
No, I'm not hearing that.
That number pretty bridges
867
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,300
burnt, thanks.
No, I'm sorry.
868
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:36,700
I'm sorry.
We're not Clemson.
869
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:38,100
I'm sorry.
We didn't get down in the mud.
870
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,100
Add too much, you know, maybe we
should maybe we fucking should
871
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:45,700
have but also fuck all those
coaches and fuck those trainers.
872
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,800
I will say this is a bigger
problem in 757 than it is in
873
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,400
other parts.
Of course it is 75 cent dirty
874
01:02:53,400 --> 01:03:12,400
shit you know what I know and I
definitely know it has found a
875
01:03:12,408 --> 01:03:14,600
way to monetize it.
They have found a little
876
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,400
industry there where they're
going to make.
877
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,300
Lunch money.
Yep.
878
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:21,400
And I want to see all of those
fuckers wrecked because they are
879
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,800
hurting the schools and state,
they are hurting these kids in a
880
01:03:24,808 --> 01:03:26,800
lot of ways because they sent
him off to programs that are
881
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,900
just paying for Access.
They'll do anything to these
882
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:31,500
kids.
How many kids are you seeing
883
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,700
like going off and these are
high ranked athletes?
884
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:39,800
They don't do shit better than
nothing since what about Steve
885
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:46,000
started with the 75771 7th 3rd,
Prince, but I want you all to
886
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,600
follow me.
Me through these last three
887
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,800
days.
Just follow me.
888
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,200
Yep.
We had the build up the huge
889
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,500
buildup.
We knew it was happening.
890
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Yeah.
You knew it was happening.
891
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:01,600
I knew it was happening.
We knew was happening.
892
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,500
Leaked on Twitter and now what's
that?
893
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:09,800
Fucking guys named Brendan
Murphy McMurphy the one more
894
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:16,800
week.
Hey, The fuck.
895
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,000
What?
I know what.
896
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:49,200
Sunday afternoon or Monday
morning, if we were keeping him
897
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:57,100
that shitty press conference,
All right, so we get that that's
898
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,900
Monday.
Then we get well and we're still
899
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:03,400
skeptical invited.
Maybe they really fucked it up
900
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,400
and they kept you.
I was skeptical until the tech
901
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,800
talk live.
Had food coming online.
902
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,300
Oh no, he's paying.
He went
903
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,400
blocker.
All right.
904
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,500
Oh, there's no way to hide it.
It was a shit show Witnesses.
905
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,900
We don't have to sugarcoat this.
It was a shit show.
906
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,500
That press conference was awful.
That was eight.
907
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:04,500
Shitshow train wreck that was
actually a train wreck.
908
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,800
Hauling manure.
That was awful.
909
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,900
Like come on.
How do you not know this is
910
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:32,200
going on?
But I said, wish you know that
911
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,300
to frustrating it's frustrating
and I like these people, but
912
01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:40,100
it's frustrating.
Yeah.
913
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,300
It's a to meet the whole
whipping, it felt like he was
914
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:46,100
coming out there and lecturing
us on while we were wrong
915
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:50,100
instead of saying here's why I
think I'm right, well.
916
01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:01,600
For all the bad things but hey,
I'm not going to speculate
917
01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:03,800
because I've speculated enough
for the day.
918
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:09,900
I think maybe.
Yeah.
919
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:33,300
That have not been here.
But one year, approximately say
920
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:38,500
that, but we dehumanize we need
to humanize somebody.
921
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,600
Well, guess what?
They don't let the guy talk.
922
01:08:42,899 --> 01:08:47,000
Let him talk to him, but yeah,
I'm talking about corn.
923
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:59,100
You have to talk y'all send one
positional coach out and players
924
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,700
out.
Since you're you going I was
925
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:07,000
apologizing for corn.
I was actually very Pro corn at
926
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,600
the beginning, the season, our
offense was rolling, everything
927
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,399
was going pretty well.
I was I was fully Bob in the
928
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,300
problem I have with corn in
general is not so Much.
929
01:09:18,899 --> 01:09:21,500
The design of the offense were
the plays.
930
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:23,500
Its the situational play
calling.
931
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,399
Yes but it's hard for me.
It's hard for me to actually
932
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:32,800
because if it happened to work,
yeah, great.
933
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,800
He's a genius which know what's
I think ever called him.
934
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:42,800
But I have a hard time
criticizing play calling because
935
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,399
I think that is like the lowest
hanging fruit whenever you get
936
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:50,800
when it is over.
Production that I care about and
937
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:54,100
I was very pleased at the
beginning of the season, but it
938
01:09:54,100 --> 01:10:02,000
became so apparent that we were
having issues that it's thing
939
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,300
about corn is, it's not even so
much the question play calling
940
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:08,300
or anything else.
I'm sure he's a great person.
941
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:13,600
I'm sure he is a little more
cerebral and likes to think his
942
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,000
offenses and people who
criticized him for running a
943
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,200
simple off.
Fence.
944
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:21,200
That's how most offenses are
like.
945
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,600
Granted you tend to run six to
seven plays, you just do them
946
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,500
out of different formations.
I mean, corn decided to cut the
947
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:35,400
middleman, just do a matter of
one formation, but that's not my
948
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,600
Peak.
Its criticism of him was.
949
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:42,700
I'm just not seeming that fuckin
care.
950
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:48,100
Yeah.
That that got me this year.
951
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:53,500
Can I say this?
I think us three any part of
952
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:58,700
hokey notion hopes, which right
in anymore definitely help with
953
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:02,500
right, I hope that one year from
now.
954
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:05,600
I could to say, well fuck what
was right?
955
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,800
We're going to play off or we're
going on the Rose Bowl.
956
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,400
We're going.
We crushed it, he nailed it.
957
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,400
And I think there are too many
people out there that don't want
958
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,300
him to be, right?
And that is the issue.
959
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,300
If you don't want the guy to be
right, then you need to leave.
960
01:11:22,300 --> 01:11:25,500
You can criticize, you can give
your logical explanation.
961
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:26,400
Why?
You don't think it'll work,
962
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,700
that's that's acceptable, but if
you're sitting here saying, I
963
01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:32,500
don't want him to be right.
Well if you don't want them to
964
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:35,800
rewrite your not a hokey and you
need to leave the fan base and
965
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,300
don't come back ever because
you've you're actually not a
966
01:11:40,308 --> 01:11:43,100
real fan.
You care more about being right
967
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,900
than your team being good if you
do that shit, then fuck you.
968
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:52,500
You don't care about your team.
And that's that's my biggest
969
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:54,600
thing.
With some people I want to be
970
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,700
right, I want food to be the
best so I can go to ever exist
971
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:02,100
and I think he is a great coach.
I really, really do.
972
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:08,400
I think he came to us who was in
a bad situation just to actually
973
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,600
give a coach like through the
infrastructure that he needed.
974
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,400
It was a bad fit, that's what I
think.
975
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:16,700
Yeah.
And now we have to build the
976
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,600
fit.
The problem is, is we've lost a
977
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,100
lot of our momentum and
credibility in the along, the
978
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,200
way.
And so as Foo, and so has our
979
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,100
program.
So now we are building from the
980
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:32,900
ground up for build from the
ground up.
981
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:40,600
And I do see this, because if
you actually look at it with a
982
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,100
reinvestment in, Into football
and how we're trying to do it.
983
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:49,800
It is a rebuild from your one.
I get that messaging agree with
984
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,500
that messaging.
Yeah, I mean I think the big
985
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:58,100
thing is like the thing that
this program hasn't done
986
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:03,500
historically is striking on
infrastructure fronts while you
987
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:07,400
have the capital to do so
whether it's yeah literal
988
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:12,100
capital or whether it's brand
Capital, Virginia cat can Afford
989
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,000
whatever Virginia Tech wants to
afford.
990
01:13:14,900 --> 01:13:20,400
Anyone talking about anything?
No, they have, they have more
991
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,600
money than most like, small
cities.
992
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200
It's they can do whatever they
want if they really want to.
993
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:29,700
He's got to move the money where
it needs to be.
994
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,700
You're going to throw some that
make us and we'll talk Corporate
995
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:39,300
America because that's what I
work in in Prime, working me for
996
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:42,800
a while, occasionally in
Corporate America, the people
997
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,500
who are making the money, who
are crushing it, they see the
998
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:48,100
benefits.
They see the updates and
999
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,500
Technology.
They see the biggest pay raises,
1000
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,400
where the other sectors.
Don't football, is the biggest
1001
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,100
sector.
Of the Virginia Tech athletic
1002
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,500
department.
And what's happened is, we
1003
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:02,700
haven't dumped the money into it
because if you dump the money
1004
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:07,600
into it's going to produce.
Now, what really the problem is,
1005
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,200
we got fold with, we've got
spoiled with Beamer, you got to
1006
01:14:10,208 --> 01:14:12,600
understand.
Yeah, be no good and everyone
1007
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,800
else, we got spoiled one fucking
behind.
1008
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
We not way behind.
We were used to our name, our
1009
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,300
goddamn fucking assistant,
payroll used to be fourth in the
1010
01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:25,600
fucking country when you started
school.
1011
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:29,800
And we're working Juniors and
sophomores challenge.
1012
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,900
Came to us.
Came to us and said, I want to
1013
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:34,800
play for you.
What do you mean?
1014
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,800
11 came, the best player in the
country came, and he, if he
1015
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,600
lived up to the billing Tyrod,
Taylor was the top dual threat
1016
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:50,900
quarterback, in 2007 Tyree.
One Billing is the best hokey to
1017
01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:53,200
ever put on a uniform.
Oh God, here we go.
1018
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:12,400
I love tie rod to the
person.
1019
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,800
He is the embodiment of poop.
Rossum.
1020
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,000
He is, you know why?
Because he could on the San
1021
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,200
Diego Chargers right now and he
decided not to That won't hold
1022
01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:35,100
a half billion are without even
a blank.
1023
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,400
He didn't because he knew it was
an accident.
1024
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,000
I'll get into this.
And I got called out for it.
1025
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,900
On Twitter about people that
don't quite understand that I
1026
01:15:43,907 --> 01:15:48,700
know what I'm talking about, but
they were talking about, oh, his
1027
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,600
collective.
Bargaining agreement says that
1028
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,000
he Can't do this or that.
That doesn't matter when it
1029
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,300
comes down to negligence.
Yes, no.
1030
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,400
Yeah, he could have, but it's
also a steep slope to try to
1031
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:09,200
prove Reckless, negligence on a
doctor on Game Day, who's trying
1032
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,100
to take here?
It's a steep slope.
1033
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,800
That would have been very hard
to prove.
1034
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,300
They would have had to be in.
Like, all right, we we tested
1035
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:20,400
this doctor and he was positive
for meth.
1036
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:30,400
And yes they would have had to
happen so that's it Tyro.
1037
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,400
So I'm going to take that, hit
challenging that but no
1038
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,000
not-not-not.
It wasn't worth a damn move on
1039
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:39,300
move.
All this wouldn't be a problem
1040
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,200
with the bills when I fucked
him, the the Bills fan base.
1041
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:48,500
I'll say right now, I hate you.
Vince, for Nathan, peeterman
1042
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:55,600
beer, Nathan Peterman - I'll
never forget that game.
1043
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,200
Then you're like, hey, tie rod.
Do you want to come in and save
1044
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,500
us?
Yeah, sure why not?
1045
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:03,500
He took the bills to the
playoffs.
1046
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,500
It was like the first time in
fucking statue on that goddamn
1047
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:13,000
down.
I'm so mad at them.
1048
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,800
All right, we're gonna move.
I will ask you some we what we
1049
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,600
we've got a couple questions and
then you get to pick games with
1050
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,900
us in a little while here.
Alright, so we've all for you.
1051
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,100
What are your three top games
you've ever been to?
1052
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:35,300
Oh, that's bleep.
All games, I'm going to say, One
1053
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:37,500
of my favorites.
It's it's a weird random.
1054
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:46,000
One was West Virginia.
My freshman year, I was
1055
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,100
shirtless, I got an ESPN because
it was freezing cold, and I was
1056
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:56,800
just drunk as shit.
And I was up there in the North
1057
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,300
End Zone and I was going.
Wow, and they got me, I was
1058
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:04,700
actually doing my little
alcohol.
1059
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:13,800
All the I'm doing that and doing
that.
1060
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,600
But it looks like my hands are
really cold.
1061
01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:43,600
A older older brother, was my
aura at him and Sydney he played
1062
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,700
basketball hand in Sydney.
Does that make sense?
1063
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:31,500
It was on multiple levels and it
doesn't matter.
1064
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:37,500
As far as overall wins or
anything else.
1065
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:42,500
It felt like I was back in Old
Lane again.
1066
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:48,000
Okay, okay, I can feel that like
everyone.
1067
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,400
It was fucking wild.
Everyone was just tuned in.
1068
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,800
Everyone was going crazy over
everything.
1069
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:56,900
And then, what do I hear in the
distance?
1070
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,300
He get in mother fucker.
Do you know what that did to us?
1071
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:10,900
People do not understand.
Especially Weaver did not
1072
01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:16,200
understand.
That music hits us in a certain
1073
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,300
way coming through in that
moment.
1074
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,600
Oh my God.
What a way to reintroduce?
1075
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,400
It thing is there were a lot of
kids to have.
1076
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,500
That didn't quite know what take
it in.
1077
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,400
These people are losing their
minds.
1078
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:38,200
Besides the first one, I gave
two of those were in years that
1079
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,900
we didn't have to be all that
great.
1080
01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:46,800
It's true, very true.
I'll we want we want our
1081
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,900
culture.
We want our environment.
1082
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,900
We Want It Rock and we want it
crushing and but you also.
1083
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:59,600
You're number one, you're number
one was when the culture was
1084
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,300
when the environment
motherfuckers were scared to
1085
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:07,600
drive down 81 and you got into
the mountains and the smokes
1086
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,100
rolling off and control and you
go in there.
1087
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,000
I'm getting chills thinking
about it because we did it at
1088
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Pitt and me and Brian are
driving.
1089
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,600
You can see it rolling and you
know, they're coming from
1090
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,300
Roanoke.
And they start weaving and they
1091
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:25,400
start weaving.
And then it's always the wall,
1092
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,300
always considered the wall to
Virginia, Tech as you take the
1093
01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:31,600
exit to 460.
Yep, and wall.
1094
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:34,400
And you start going back there
in the road gets a little
1095
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,300
smaller and then there's just
getting a little better.
1096
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,700
Get a little smaller.
Those years that Stadium.
1097
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,900
I had a girl that went to wife
that went to college me and my
1098
01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:50,300
wife.
Huge Penn State fan parents went
1099
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:51,600
to Penn State always went up
there.
1100
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:55,600
She went to Lane one time and
when she came back, she said as
1101
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,400
fucking louder and beat her, I'm
like yeah, hit it a lot louder,
1102
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:12,800
that's what we want Tennessee.
Thing you could ever actually do
1103
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:17,600
like the the only way they can
make it worse, was if Jerry
1104
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,700
Sandusky were eating.
He was eating children after the
1105
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:22,600
fact.
That's the only way.
1106
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,200
It could be worse and they still
have a football program money
1107
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,600
speaks.
Yep.
1108
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,400
Well fuck em.
Fuck them.
1109
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:38,400
They should not have a program.
Jesus Christ, Cincinnati through
1110
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:43,200
them underneath to laws teams.
In Ohio, State play four games
1111
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,200
this year, the third best team
in the country.
1112
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,700
How do you know?
They played four games when we
1113
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:51,500
do start, when you start them,
number two, and to start the
1114
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:58,500
year, regardless of, when they
start playing, yelling sighs is
1115
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:38,900
real.
What record should save when
1116
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:43,300
loss managers who were winning
and losing to, to be honest.
1117
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,300
That's a good answer that's
actually similar to what I would
1118
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:53,300
say if I had to give an answer
on that because to me if we can
1119
01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:57,300
put out a competitive team that
doesn't lose games that we
1120
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:00,600
shouldn't and can still be in
the coastal conversation at the
1121
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:17,400
embassy.
but,
1122
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:49,600
They've got a defensive
Foundation that they're building
1123
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,400
upon and they've got an offense
that is competent when they're
1124
01:25:54,400 --> 01:26:00,000
not giving the ball away.
I mean, look up our schedule.
1125
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,600
Probably the team up the road
from us is the team.
1126
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:09,000
You don't want us to lose to
diversity Richmond, U of R will
1127
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:55,800
be rich.
This could be a downward spiral
1128
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,000
that is going to be hard to
recover from.
1129
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,900
If we lose black diamond in the
cup, in the same year,
1130
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,500
especially if you couple that
with another loss or two that's
1131
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,000
bad.
So they don't tend to see them
1132
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:13,400
West Virginia and then Richmond.
okay, so we might want to Then
1133
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,800
we go into Notre Dame.
Holy shit.
1134
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:22,300
And then Virginia, why are we
play Virginia?
1135
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:59,500
That's the only way.
Yeah, that's kind of where we
1136
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:01,300
are to.
We looked at the schedule, we
1137
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:04,000
looked at the pieces that we're
losing.
1138
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:10,600
I mean, we can't lean on our
running game with our first
1139
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,600
round left.
Tackle headed to the NFL and two
1140
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,500
guys.
There were supposed to be Either
1141
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:22,300
starters or serious rotation
players next year.
1142
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,600
Hitting the portal like you
can't lean on your running game
1143
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,100
anymore.
I mean, I feel like if we had
1144
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:31,400
some consistency with the
offensive line, I'd feel good
1145
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,800
with Holston Blackshear, doing
some other things, and some of
1146
01:29:34,808 --> 01:29:38,500
the other guys we've got coming
in but we've been assured.
1147
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,500
Look at the schedule.
I mean, we said, do we get to
1148
01:29:50,500 --> 01:29:53,800
invite you back a year from now?
And you get to talk about a new
1149
01:29:53,800 --> 01:30:01,800
head coach.
No, I got, you know, even if we
1150
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,500
shit the bed and go 4 and 8.
They won't do it.
1151
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,900
So you think we're at the point
now where if it were, if it
1152
01:30:10,900 --> 01:30:13,200
wasn't this year we're riding it
out.
1153
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,000
We're running out for a couple
of years.
1154
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:20,700
We had so many people transfer
We had.
1155
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:29,100
Everything else happen.
The excuse next year, will be We
1156
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:33,900
had a bunch of people transfer
and covid happen and we're in a
1157
01:30:33,907 --> 01:30:36,000
down here, it'll be fine next
year.
1158
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:40,100
Well, hold on, all the people
will transfer in.
1159
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:42,300
This is where I will stick up
and I'll go right after
1160
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:46,100
somebody.
You need your job to keep these
1161
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:49,800
players in the program.
Coaches.
1162
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,000
It is your job.
It is your job to figure out
1163
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,200
what motivates them to keep them
in the program, not to put their
1164
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,900
name in the portal.
We are the second most portal
1165
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:04,400
University.
In the last three years.
1166
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,700
The second most.
Yes, and we have been on the
1167
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:11,300
good side.
I have a feeling we're about to
1168
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:16,200
be on the bad side.
So, you think there's I mean, I
1169
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:22,500
mean, depression-era poverty.
In 2022.
1170
01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:50,900
We had our window or window is
burned out with fucked up.
1171
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,500
So we have gotten to a point now
where it's going to have to, as
1172
01:31:58,500 --> 01:32:01,200
we alluded to, we're going to
have to burn it down to build it
1173
01:32:01,208 --> 01:32:06,200
back up.
Congratulations, guys.
1174
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,900
We're the little brother.
We're poverty.
1175
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,800
Welcome.
It's not fun here, guys.
1176
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,300
This is not fun.
No, it's not.
1177
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:19,600
It's not.
This is not where we want to be
1178
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,800
and that was when you're someone
like, I'm not a negative person.
1179
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,500
No, you know, especially when it
comes to our Sports.
1180
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,500
I don't know how we rebound from
this.
1181
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:35,800
I don't.
I guess the only thing you can
1182
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:41,000
say is pray to God miracles
happen and we win games now
1183
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,900
fuck.
That will win games without with
1184
01:32:44,900 --> 01:33:34,500
miracles.
It sucks.
1185
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,300
He got hired here before should
have got hired in the position,
1186
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,500
a lot of shit.
And we mentioned it here
1187
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:43,900
numerous times a year.
Five years, Bobby it, now
1188
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:01,300
don't get me wrong, he's good at
that he can sell recruits and
1189
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:04,700
everything else.
But he's five yourself.
1190
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:08,000
You think you would have been
better like putting the position
1191
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,000
as like.
Recruiting coordinator.
1192
01:34:12,500 --> 01:34:16,200
In terms of like coaching staff,
recruiting coordinator a guy
1193
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,900
from the the coaching staff
level working with those pieces.
1194
01:34:19,900 --> 01:34:22,800
And then also that way he's more
of a front-facing guy but not
1195
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,900
necessarily X's and O's on the
field as much outside of his
1196
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:30,500
position.
Now I think J Hamm knows
1197
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:34,200
everything.
Technically all to shit.
1198
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:38,200
Okay, very good.
The thing about a coordinator is
1199
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:42,600
they actually know have to know
how to manage everything down
1200
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,100
through.
There J Hamm will run a good God
1201
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:50,400
damn defense.
He's good at what he does.
1202
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,700
He has a good mind for what he
does.
1203
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:57,800
He just needs time to actually
know how to adjust his people to
1204
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,800
get it too.
And the way he envisions that is
1205
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,700
the difference.
Okay, got it.
1206
01:35:04,700 --> 01:35:07,700
Got it makes sense.
He's going to be great one day,
1207
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:11,800
he's going to be a superstar.
Guarantee that?
1208
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,000
Is he gonna be our superstar in
like three years?
1209
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,700
Because you're scared.
See Jeremy because you live in
1210
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:24,600
there.
You're putting this reality on
1211
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:30,900
me, that essentially.
Almost until the contracts are
1212
01:35:30,900 --> 01:35:33,300
out.
This is what we're stuck with
1213
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,600
and it could be really bad
bursted, where if you were to
1214
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:44,500
tell me know if we start next
year bov is just going to kick
1215
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:46,200
with to the side.
They're going to get food
1216
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,600
decide.
They're going to get a new 80
1217
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:56,100
and higher holding you program.
Be a period piece, and a lot of
1218
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:59,300
people aren't happening.
Aren't happy with that bov.
1219
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,900
No, because that's the piece
that essentially say what you
1220
01:36:04,907 --> 01:36:09,400
want to say that in the
president's, to do control the
1221
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,500
athletic department of time, and
if they're sitting there and
1222
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:16,500
especially this year again, you
mentioned it already.
1223
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,200
We've talked about it there, the
winds work, the change was
1224
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,600
coming.
Somebody was going to get hired
1225
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,100
when I was going to get hired
and it was gonna be one of those
1226
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:30,100
boot.
I don't think may help would lie
1227
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:35,200
to us.
So you think that you think the
1228
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:42,000
bov was completely on board?
Not counting, the additional
1229
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,300
revenue is in town.
You have to see that, right?
1230
01:36:47,300 --> 01:36:51,300
Oh, you were smarter than me?
I'm a simple.
1231
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,600
Yes.
And a revenue is not a big deal
1232
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:58,200
to me.
Yes, it's not a big deal, but
1233
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,700
it's a big deal to all of the
people are represented Resent.
1234
01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:07,300
Yeah, what you got Curtis.
It's just one of those things
1235
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:11,100
where you again, you feel like
it's the truth that the fans,
1236
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:16,200
the $25, or the people driving
from Richmond, a couple times a
1237
01:37:16,208 --> 01:37:20,500
year down on the program.
The kids, who are going there
1238
01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:25,600
going on in the program anymore.
Well, as recalibrate and a fun
1239
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,300
night here with dr.
Jeremy counts.
1240
01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:30,700
That's going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
1241
01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:33,900
podcast.
We thank you, Jerry for joining
1242
01:37:33,900 --> 01:37:35,100
us.
No,
1243
01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:56,900
my name is Curtis Wilson,
Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, music
1244
01:37:56,900 --> 01:37:59,100
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We always let our buddy.
1245
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:03,100
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Catch him on Spotify and apple
1246
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:05,800
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We thank you for listening in
1247
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,300
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We want you to finish this off.
1248
01:38:07,300 --> 01:38:09,500
Let's go.
Oh cute.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner.
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Brian siglo, I am Curtis Wilson.
And tonight, folks, we have a
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very special guest joining up to
talk some hokey football and
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other things in between.
We were looking a few weeks ago
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and we're like we need somebody
who's a Virginia Tech football
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fan.
We need somebody who's an alumni
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of the school.
We need somebody who donates his
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hard-earned money.
We need somebody who sponsors
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Athletics and we need somebody
who lives and works in
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Blacksburg.
And there's only one in Bryan.
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I'll let you introduce him King.
Jeremy counts of Blacksburg
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ladies and gentlemen.
Jeremy how the hell are you man?
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Hey, hey,
The conference, we had the
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00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800
signing day press conference,
and now we're sitting here,
15
00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,400
we're officially fully into
transfer portal season, so we've
16
00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,700
kind of lived an entire like
offseason in about 3 days here.
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00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:19,100
So I think everybody's stress
levels a little high right now.
18
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Oh yeah about that and buying a
house this week.
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00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:27,200
So that's fucking great.
We've got all of this bullshit
20
00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400
going down and it's a roller
coaster.
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It is a shit roller coaster and
it has went off the fucking
22
00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:34,900
rails.
It is like whenever that person
23
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got launched from a fucking
slingshot, in Pigeon Forge onto
24
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the highway, that's what I feel
like right now because it is all
25
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,000
over the goddamn Place.
Lazy Hillman Hokie nation is now
26
00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:52,300
the person they got launched in
The Pigeon Forge Highway, we are
27
00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:56,900
scattered on the concrete.
We are getting run over by
28
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rednecks.
Coming from everywhere to have a
29
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000
great time.
In Pigeon.
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Forge, I love you.
Billy Mecca.
31
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It's my me to known coasters are
the best.
32
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,900
Yeah, dude, I'm going to
Gatlinburg fucking hillbilly.
33
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Nigga, like me and Emily.
I'm are there.
34
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Oh, yes.
Yeah.
35
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Technically Marnie, who is my
best friend.
36
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Always, Said he could marry me.
He wasn't able to marry us
37
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because of Virginia walls are
weird because he lived in
38
00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,700
Kentucky right now.
Like that's where he lives.
39
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,400
So he couldn't technically
Marius in Virginia because our
40
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laws are dumb.
And so me and Emily went, we got
41
00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,000
we got redneck hitch in
Gatlinburg, a Tobar Gatlinburg
42
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and went down in the moonshot
afterwards.
43
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So, yeah, that was great.
So, we were married for like a
44
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week before.
We were like and the ceremony
45
00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:47,500
and stuff.
Okay.
46
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,900
Okay.
It's hilarious though that
47
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Jeremy talks about his wife
because, you know, we started
48
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this podcast and not long back
after, you know, Jeremy would
49
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sons of Saturday and some other
guys, you start listening up and
50
00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,900
you slide into our DM's with
some shit in there.
51
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You did wider out in.
It was very nice, but then, all
52
00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,800
of a sudden, you know, things
here and there and won't Sunday
53
00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,400
morning.
He pops us a picture of
54
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something he's doing with his
wife.
55
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And I sit there and I'm like
holy shit this girl looks so
56
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fucking familiar talk to Jeremy
but hey Jeremy is your
57
00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:30,100
girlfriend Virginia he's like
yeah listen man I know this is
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really random.
She might change from Halifax
59
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County and Jeremy.
She is can confirm, he was born
60
00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:41,900
and raised in Halifax County and
I'm sitting here.
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00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:44,400
I'm like Jeremy that's where me
and Brian grew up.
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How, you know, how old is your
wife?
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00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,700
He tells how she is, we're not
going to mention that because
64
00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:51,700
she's not going to kick me
whenever she sees me in the near
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00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:56,100
future in Blacksburg 33, you
said it.
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Not a throw off the hook.
So where is she?
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But she was in high school.
And
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00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000
everybody listening.
Stop pause go.
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Follow him when In Blacksburg go
by the Main Street Pharmacy.
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00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:38,700
Give him a visit during game
days.
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I'm sure he's got a bunch of
stuff in there.
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You need for after the game.
Oh yeah.
73
00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,200
I probably won't be there on
game day, someone will be the
74
00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,800
cold Jeremy, the extreme
rational fan like you're
75
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,100
rational when you're come to
your takes, but you're very
76
00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,800
extreme with how you put those
takes out there.
77
00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:04,100
I'm very logical but I'm also
really passionate in my lat if
78
00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:16,200
that makes sense.
He's absolutely - lately.
79
00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,300
Wake Forest off.
We usually have a loss like that
80
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every year.
I was just it up to hey it's us.
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It fucking happens.
Whatever we're moving on and
82
00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,100
that was how I felt and then
goddamn Liberty happened,
83
00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,300
fucking Liberty happened and
that.
84
00:06:55,700 --> 00:07:01,600
Oh my God, that was a shit show,
like even getting into patient
85
00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,900
and been in the game with us
even getting to the stupid
86
00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:09,000
timeout.
And the stupid defensiveness up
87
00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,300
at the end of the day game even
without that, it should not have
88
00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,700
been that close.
And I know I Super Bowl.
89
00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:17,500
They were coming out and they
were ready for it.
90
00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,900
You have to win those games.
These are games, you have to
91
00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:25,400
get, and I was around for, you
know, the JMU lost back in the
92
00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,700
day.
I was around for all that
93
00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:30,900
bullshit.
We cannot afford to have losses
94
00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,800
like that, right now.
We're trying to reprogram.
95
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Yep.
Yep.
96
00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,700
If Was, you know, you know,
talking about JMU at the time,
97
00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:43,200
we could recover from a loss
like that both on the recruiting
98
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front, you know, rallying the
next reference here.
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You can recover from that.
It's very hard to recover from
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that when you're already,
treading water in the ACC.
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And that's, that's where the
Hokies are right now.
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They're treading water in the
ACC treading water, will we see?
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And then the next week, they
play their nuts off against
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Miami and then everybody forgets
how to play in the fourth
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quarter.
God, I was at that game.
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I'm in felt the entire game.
Felt like we were going to win
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that game and I was like, you
know what, you know, fuck the
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Livery.
At least we're going to be Miami
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and we're going to go on we're
gonna fucking beat UVA and I was
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like it's gonna be all right?
And then it just stops.
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It's like anytime it comes down
to us having to score some
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points at the end.
We just can't seem to fucking do
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it.
No attention.
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I was full force that day.
I brought out the crown and the
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Myrtle and everything.
The turn is the turnover expert.
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Alleged promise, I'll never
break out again, because they
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game because it the entire time,
it felt like we were winning.
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Yeah, I felt like we were going
to win.
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We're going to right the wrong,
but the fourth quarter happened
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and we well, we suck the fat
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I'm going to just add that the
next week hit and that was I was
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on here.
Liberty was the end for me for
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Coach?
Like, I'm over you like you?
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When people are telling me who
went to that game like they
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couldn't get the guys up.
Yeah.
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No, you can't get the guys up to
a team, you should smash.
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Yeah, you and that is on your
entire coaching staff.
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So yeah.
Well with Liberty, the pit game.
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That's what happened.
Really really.
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That was my Rubicon.
I was blacked out.
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Tina's house.
And we're sitting there, and I'm
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downstairs, I'm with a bunch of
college students, down there and
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Reggie and frankenteen and where
I'll watch a ballgame and by the
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second half when they start
pulling away, I just, I'm just
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going at it.
I finish a fifth of jmo and then
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I seen Richie and he brings me a
bottle Buffalo Trace.
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So I'm just taking pulls on
Buffalo Trace.
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I've got these poor kids in
there and I'm just like yelling
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this is why y'all gotta donate
to the Hokey Club.
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Here.
Because that night, that was
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bronze Rubicon.
So that it 11:00, I put the kids
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to bed, he puts the kids to bed,
we put two wives to bed, and I'm
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sitting here, he's pounding on
Pam's, and I'm sitting here and
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I'm pouring shots and he looked.
And he's like, what the fuck you
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doing.
I'm like, I don't know what else
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to do and I know you're supposed
to, I don't drink, like, I used
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to About two to three shots and
bring about eight beers.
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Yeah.
Whoo.
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Let's just say when my
four-year-old three-year-old
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woke up at 6:30, the next
morning, my wife is pregnant.
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I had to go.
I was just glad she didn't know.
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Hope she doesn't listen.
So tomorrow's.
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Don't okay, so that game
happens.
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You get blackout.
We get hammered late-night
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recording podcasts in the
Clemson game.
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When we have a week off, then
Clemson happens.
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And for three quarters of
Clemson.
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It was like, okay.
Absolutely, we need to get to
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the point where we're putting
the same team on the field every
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week.
Yes.
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Because right now I have no idea
what team is going to come out
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week to week.
And generally what I expect is
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we're going to play exactly to
whatever our damn competition is
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now.
And you all know me.
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I actually love food.
Like I thought food was a great
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hire.
I was all for the extension
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through are too rough or
Seasons.
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It was like okay we pretty much
got a delayed rebuild, we do.
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This is going to happen through
this.
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Whenever we had some struggles,
I was like, you know, it's
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covid.
It's whatever.
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It's, you know, we're going to
get through this, but it is just
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it's too much.
This is too much.
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This season was too much and to
make those calls and This and I
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hate the people that are just
like, oh well, it's just a
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football game.
It's just what they don't
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fucking have a goddamn clue.
This isn't just a football game.
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This program is so huge to the
economy here in Blacksburg and I
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represent these businesses.
I do, I go, I volunteer my time
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on boards for these businesses,
I do everything I can for this
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community and I whenever I feel
like like, we're not being
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heard, or we're not like people
are not Hearing about it, it
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upsets me because the better
this team does, the better it is
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for the economy better, it is
for the school, better is for
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our culture.
And I think we're losing sight
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of our culture and I think our
cultural decline started in
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2007.
Whenever Jim Weaver made the
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huge fuck up of getting rid of
stick it in, that was just a
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huge fuck you, too.
Virginia Tech game, day,
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culture, and downhill, and
they've been cracking down on it
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forever, because art everyone
goes on About SEC tailgates.
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This is that give me a fucking
game day in Blacksburg any
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fucking day.
And back in the day it was my
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goddamn wild.
That's what people fucking
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understand and people are losing
side of that.
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They're losing sight of what
made us special.
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And it's heartbreaking for me to
see because they don't just they
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don't get it.
And it's sad and I'm fucking
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done with it.
Yeah, those are.
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Haven't lived in those who
didn't go through that.
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Read and see what what it was
about.
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Those teams were about and what
tailgating there was about and
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what the just the whole game day
atmosphere that you're talking
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about like electric if it's fun
when you're in the stadium.
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Like it's not just about running
out and jump into salmon.
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It was not looking quarters of
that shit.
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Yeah, I don't I feel like we've
lost some of that to it.
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Yeah, it used to be for fucking
quarters of it used to be My
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first game was 03.
My first game was 03 UCF Labor
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Day weekend, 330 kit.
That's got like it's still
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ingrained in my mind.
Big man's over here.
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Was 2002 Rutgers, right?
Yes sir, we remember that 17 and
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18 years gone by, and when you
walked into we were, we were on
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prices for because that's where
I guys tailgated, that's where
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our buddies.
Who went to Tech tailgate,
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that's where we were before, we
could go downtown.
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No, I never had a fake ID, I
just dealt with what I dealt
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with sitting there in your
parting, you're having fun,
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you're meeting people left and
right, and you feel the energy,
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and then all of a sudden,
whatever time kickoff was me and
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Brandon go there, but whoever
did they were like time to go,
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gotta walk.
Gotta walk to get to the stadium
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to get him.
Yep.
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And as you started going, it was
like this flood.
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It was the for cause you saw the
peel.
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The first time I went, it was
just like, like, I kind of get
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this feeling like, okay, every
like everybody knows we're going
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to the stadium, you get in, you
jump for the first time.
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You feel it that game, though,
going into the third and fourth
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quarters tackles easily, win the
game.
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Pit Mill was electric.
It still was this hostility like
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we want to beat your fucking
brains in.
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Yes, you by 50 and as You stated
the Germany as we got into the
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ACC as 2007.
They take stick it in a way.
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It's like we got less and less
nasty.
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Yes we did.
Unfortunately what happened was
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2007 was Russ for us, we came
out and we had the shooting that
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happened and then that happened
and that was used against us -
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Only four years in recruiting
and everything else that
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happened and then we go along
and you know, they're taking
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away, stick it in because their
words are huge.
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There was just this huge
microscope on Blacksburg at the
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top on and they took away, stick
it in because of that that was
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their call.
You know, they didn't want to
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have us you know out there
having fun on camera.
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God fucking forbid that and they
take that away and then of
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course in 2007, all the Michael
Vick stuff happened.
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Yeah.
So we had Michael Vick was you
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know the the player from
Virginia Tech in a lot of ways
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that of course we had like Bruce
Smith and everyone from before.
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For bit, Michael Vick was like
this next level Superstar.
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He was a world Superstar.
Yep, you fucking dick.
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And he represented Us in.
Then he went down.
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So we had all these cultural
hits.
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And Jim Weaver has taken away,
goddamn, stick it in right in
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the middle of all this turmoil
and it was one of the worst
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decisions anyone could have ever
made and it was a huge blow to
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our culture.
So, we just took a lot of blows
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that year and it was, it was
rough. it was it was hard to
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watch but that's 13 years ago
this year and still you still
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think over the last 13 years,
though, some ACC titles were won
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bowl games, were made, you know,
10-win Seasons happened and what
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probably irritates Probably you
more than us is when you hear
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the freaking thing of Virginia
Tech, has what third most living
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don't alumni right now.
And then, someone such as
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yourself who is really looking
into it like seeing the amount
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of donors in a.
What you did with that Buffalo
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Trace, I hope it's stuck to some
of those 18 night 21, 22
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year-old kids.
Make it 25 two times a year.
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Four times a year, eight times a
year, 12 times a year.
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If that's all you have great.
But what where do you think that
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fucked up?
Do you think that was Weaver's
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fucking Jim Weaver?
That's full-on again, Weaver
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Jim, Weaver only cared about big
donors.
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And That's where a good chunk of
our change come from, but Jim
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Weaver left us in quite a bit of
a hole because Jim Weaver to his
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credit, did give a fuck about
football.
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That's all he cared about.
And that's kind of why we were
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in a hole, but he also only
cared about me donors.
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So he didn't have this entire,
he didn't realize that there's
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an entire base that you can tap
in donating and he didn't
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capitalize on the years that we
were great to get us a donor
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base, to keep us there.
And we were So behind we relied
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Forever on just our name to
bring recruits to bring everyone
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else here and Frank's been gone
for a while now.
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Yep.
Yep.
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We aren't you know a perennial
like ACC title container.
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We're not anymore.
Well my day 10-win seasons were
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expected.
Yep.
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That was that was expected.
Like we were always in the
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National conversation.
That's what we were used to.
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And now it's just like we don't
care and I don't mind, I
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absolutely love our non-revenue
Sports.
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I love all that we should be
spending for that and what I
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don't like is the fact that the
university is choosing not to
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fund our football program the
right way.
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And I know that that's changing
and may whole said it's
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changing.
Everyone else has said is
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changing and we are getting more
money.
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We've got more donors on board
for football Improvement program
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and we did needed to need to
update a lot of the facilities.
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So I understand a lot of that.
But we let our fucking cash
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bail.
Starve.
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In the meantime, we did not take
care of our fucking cash cow or
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what are in our culture is
about.
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Yep.
They're all converging Tech is
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the football team that he draw.
If you're not eating that, then
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you're letting other things
slowly die.
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They might look like they're
doing, okay?
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But they are slowly dying.
Like, I love her basketball
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team.
That has been absolutely
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wonderful to see Buzz.
I got real mad when Buzz left,
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but I understand why Buzz
laughs.
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I understand.
You know, he wasn't gonna be
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here for long but I appreciate
everything, but a stiff for The
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end when we found you, everybody
knew we're signing an assassin
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to get our program.
No, no one ever had the
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expectation.
He's gonna be myself that he
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was, you know, that's come down
in the last, I mean, really
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starting like late, We're just
like one thing after another.
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After another, just the hits
keep coming.
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It's been fucking - even the
most optimistic person is like
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this ain't it the same it.
Well, hold on.
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The majority of people that
probably we just talked with and
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in us three talking amongst
ourselves.
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Another people fans were about
to win today.
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This year was going into after
last year, after the end of the
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seasons, like it's going to be
okay, he looks like he's
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stabilized.
All season henin's.
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Coming back as quarterback.
Look like the offensive lines.
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Don't look good.
Didn't covid happen.
333
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But everybody had coded,
everybody.
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This wasn't just like well state
of Virginia can't do jack shit.
335
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No one could do jack shit, no
more.
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And so we get into the season,
we open up with NC State and
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it's like, okay, yeah, this is
what I'm talking about.
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Braxton's gonna fucking crush
them.
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It felt so good.
And then like the first six
340
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games happened and where we're
going to revert in.
341
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But like it's okay.
This is what we expect.
342
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We're only going to win four of
the last, you know, four of the
343
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last five, we're going to finish
the shading three.
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We're on a good track, but then
when all the other stuff start
345
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have, all of us, I'm not going
to say we're positive or wins
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because we're not certain people
who this is.
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Okay, we're doing this.
No no man no dog.
348
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Huh.
Huh?
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Famous.
If the as bad as the offseason
350
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is, we're going to hit the
portal on a few minutes.
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Here is bad as the offseason
spin.
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Tennis last year's 58,000 down
obviously from The Glory Days.
353
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When all three of us were you
were going to school there.
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Me and Brian had our buddies
are.
355
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:51,000
We could get tickets to go up
watching games, stay all weekend
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00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000
party.
Drink we know what came down.
357
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,100
It came down from 62,000 and
2017, when we were nine and four
358
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,800
competing for the ACC, One games
competed with Clemson that
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night, I know we lost by 14 but
that game was still a
360
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:15,500
hard-fought game 58,000 there
are people within this fan base
361
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:18,300
that they everybody's just going
to come back next year.
362
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,700
No they are not going to just
come back.
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This one.
I take care of this community.
364
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:43,400
These other like the restaurant
to the bars downtown?
365
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Yeah.
They're not going to be able to
366
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,400
fucking afford rent, like
they're struggling right now
367
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,700
because the covid coming to you.
Give us a mediocre a season.
368
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,100
Try to come back and we've lost
half our fucking office to the
369
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:58,100
goddamn transfer.
You think we're going to bring
370
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in fans?
You think we're going to get out
371
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,900
of ticket packages sales that?
Well we're not.
372
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,400
Nope and I mean that's the big
thing.
373
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,400
So Let's let's look at it from
just you know we're talking
374
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,700
about game day, we're talking
about promotional materials at
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00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,700
the teens putting out, you've
lost like three guys that you
376
00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:19,700
were featuring prominently on
your 2020 promotion material to
377
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,600
the transfer portal.
Yeah that can't happen.
378
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:29,900
No we've never had someone just
start for two years straight at
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quarterback.
What?
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00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:39,200
That tell you this hour.
The same starting quarterback,
381
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,900
who knows?
I'm not known for a while since
382
00:26:44,900 --> 00:27:12,300
Michael Brewer.
Fucking no us is what we were.
383
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,600
We've all those years were
poverty but we're still going
384
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,900
out.
And I'm sitting, like number
385
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:22,500
one, Ohio State, we were still
feel the good deed.
386
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,100
We thought that was fucking
poverty.
387
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,500
Look at this.
Now, goddamn.
388
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,300
Hey, we beating UVA though.
Would be maybe.
389
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:33,000
Yeah.
Hey, what about?
390
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,700
I don't think he's Cutthroat
enough.
391
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000
I think, I think he's a guy that
just likes to coach football.
392
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,700
You got to be able to, you know,
cut it up with the donors.
393
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,500
You got to be able to cut a guy
limits of.
394
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:17,400
He's not cutting the mustard.
You got to be able to engage the
395
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600
fans like this shit.
You're painting is for Pierre
396
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,100
P5.
I feel like we're at a point now
397
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where you know food goes out and
has a decent press conference
398
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,100
and takes responsibility for
what happened on the field and
399
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:32,300
we're say, are we cleared that
fucking bar?
400
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:36,200
That's a low ass bar to clear.
I like this press conference, it
401
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,200
made me feel better, but But
also I know that this is just
402
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,600
making me feel better.
That's the thing is, I was a
403
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,200
fool.
I think he's great and I think
404
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,900
he's a hell of a coach.
I think he's excellent.
405
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,500
I think he's got a great offense
of mine.
406
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:55,200
I think that he is good at what
he wants to do.
407
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,200
Problem is, is he isn't that CEO
top coach?
408
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,300
It takes to run a P5 program and
that is the issue.
409
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,600
And whenever you got people that
are underperforming, I mean you
410
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,200
got to start cut.
Yeah.
411
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,500
Like that's that's the thing and
whenever you have multiple
412
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:20,700
reports of certain people
certain coaches phoning it in
413
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,400
and saying the season doesn't
matter.
414
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,400
It doesn't matter.
Fuck him.
415
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,900
Exact time for a corn.
Cob of the flicker is that I'm
416
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:34,100
not saying any names, and I'm
not doing that, because who
417
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,600
knows, if it is, you know,
troops true.
418
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,300
It's true.
My thing is is whenever you have
419
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:46,000
that happening that is a issue
that is you cannot get your kids
420
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,500
prepared whenever you're saying
this season doesn't matter if
421
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:53,000
fucking matter to me it fucking
matters to all the fans.
422
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,400
It matters to Blacksburg and
baddest our economy even though
423
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600
people can't come.
It's still good for our image.
424
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000
It's good for our culture, it
matters.
425
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000
So when I hear those things, it
makes me Furious and then I hear
426
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800
all this and then we go.
To the roller coaster that has
427
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,300
been happening the last few
days, and it has been a
428
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:17,600
shitstorm and I'm getting
everything.
429
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,100
I hear, especially leading up to
it.
430
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,500
It was, I mean, it was dead-on
and you all, you all know my
431
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:29,700
people as much as I do, and it
was the same around town.
432
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,500
It was just like coaching
change, it's coming.
433
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,900
This is what we're doing.
I was like, all right, can I ask
434
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,300
you a question Jeremy because
for me, And Brian you know we're
435
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,200
up here in Richmond.
We went to a game last year, we
436
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,300
went downtown with a sharpie and
went to tots.
437
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:46,300
We parked and media went up to
lot one.
438
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,000
Tailgaters from guys from back
home.
439
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,700
So now the first time we went in
a couple years but let me ask
440
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:59,600
this since 2018, because 20,
1927, 2017, and 2016 were
441
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200
sunshine, and Roses, we were 19
and eight and two seasons.
442
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,900
You like, you're really into
them.
443
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,500
Like thank you.
We got him for a day.
444
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:12,800
Okay, we're going to be
competing every year. 2018
445
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,400
happens.
What has been the mood in the
446
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,900
town itself with?
I'm sure, you know, alumni.
447
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:23,700
And, you know, business owners,
since that bad season, the shit
448
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,100
that happened last year going up
to you.
449
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,400
What's been the feel inside of
the Town itself.
450
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,300
Bad season was written off.
2018, was written off
451
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400
completely.
I mean, people are you like
452
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,200
okay, this sucks but, you know,
we just, we lost a lot and We
453
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,900
did.
I mean through both 2016, 2017
454
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,900
it was we lost a lot of our
tailing them and we have it
455
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,000
replaced them.
We had to redo a lot of things
456
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,300
Jerrod going early was not
great.
457
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:53,500
Bucky orderly was not great,
it's satisfactory bit.
458
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,900
I really think that 2017 season
could have been really special,
459
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:00,400
I don't draw it.
Especially here in more and
460
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000
more.
I know Hendon who hit the
461
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,200
transfer portal.
I love you handy.
462
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,200
You you go out.
You be great somewhere else.
463
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:14,400
I'll always root for you Gerard.
He was taken such a beating in
464
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,100
their scheme because we use our
quarterbacks like fullbacks a
465
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,500
lot.
Yep.
466
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:25,400
And he was taking a beating and
that's that's a bit of an issue
467
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,500
whenever you know you've got
Jerrod who had a family to think
468
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:33,700
of he went one year too early.
He would stay one more year.
469
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,500
His entire life would be
different.
470
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,300
Yeah.
And we had abused Him so much
471
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,600
that he felt like he had to go
even though if he stayed one
472
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,500
more year, it would have helped
us draft rating.
473
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,800
It would have helped everything.
Is it working?
474
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400
He could have broken his own
records Jerrod with excellent.
475
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,500
It to him.
He was making the right decision
476
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,400
because I think he got some bad
advice.
477
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400
And I think it's because he was
afraid, he was going to get
478
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600
injured and that's a problem.
Whenever we're having our best
479
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,500
Helen afraid that, we're
misusing them, and we're losing
480
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,600
out on them too early and they
go on.
481
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,500
And I mean, these are these are
people's lives.
482
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,000
And they're making these
decisions based on the fact that
483
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,300
we may actually get them hurt.
You know, maybe not run your
484
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,800
quarterback until he is body is
destroyed.
485
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,300
Well it's I know we love are
scrambling cubies here today but
486
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,700
you know scramble is different
than running quarterback than
487
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:34,000
our own third nineteen exactly
like we don't need to hook Ur,
488
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400
the only two quarterbacks, he
was fucking behind and rushing
489
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,800
with The two fucking option,
quarterbacks at Army and Navy
490
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
and it was, it wasn't a large
margin.
491
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:47,000
It was like ten carries and
you're like the fucking and then
492
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,400
obviously, you want to get
somebody fired up.
493
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,900
Hey, Jeremy asked, Brian about
third and six quarterback
494
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,200
Powers.
Oh my fucking God.
495
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,000
I'm with you.
Brian dude.
496
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,500
You don't know, hey, Jeremy when
they do that and then they roll
497
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,900
out.
BJ for a 53-yard field gold.
498
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,100
My my phone is going, what the
fuck?
499
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,800
And I'm just like, big guys.
Got something to say later on
500
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
tonight.
So, okay, let's go back to black
501
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,100
bird.
After the Duke game. 2019 was a
502
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,100
field.
Not good.
503
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,699
Duke game was rough.
It was that's the thing as we
504
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:38,699
were we were honoring.
God, it was that was it ninety?
505
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:42,400
Nineteen ninety nineteen.
Yeah, how did you know we were
506
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Not much to ask like, I do
businesses.
507
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,200
That would sponsor that I would
sponsor that I would buy all the
508
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,800
food.
I would do, whatever I had set
509
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
up a desk, they could go and
they can interact with the fans.
510
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,100
They can sign some shit.
It would be a boy.
511
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:27,200
Last your 140, head?
Out of space.
512
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,900
Yeah, okay.
And I said to Brian, like,
513
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:34,200
that's the spot and you really
have something cool rap along
514
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
that.
So we're sell tickets to fans to
515
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,700
say, would you like to go hang
out with some of the Hokey
516
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:43,000
Legends hundred dollars?
You can have an hour with a few?
517
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,800
How many fans would be long ago.
Exactly.
518
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,300
That's what you Sergio's, a
Christians Bird.
519
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:54,700
Come on some stuff here.
It's her just chomping at the
520
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,400
bit to try to do something.
Things.
521
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,700
These are layouts man.
They are missing you too hard to
522
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:04,400
do and it feels like there's a
huge disconnect with with a lot
523
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,400
of things that are going on.
In these obvious things that we
524
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,600
can do.
This is not hard.
525
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,100
These are things that are
suggested and they're just like,
526
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:19,400
yeah, like the king of the good
news on him and Sydney has a
527
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:21,700
former player tailgate every
week.
528
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,600
For those who want to attend it
Hammond fucking City division,
529
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,100
three football.
And it didn't If I wanted to go
530
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:31,200
there, there's free food for me
every damn Saturday, man.
531
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,400
And you don't even have to do
much every fucking Heaven, just
532
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,300
like dishes from the dining
halls and I would eat dead up,
533
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,200
man.
You don't have to do that much.
534
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Bring us some fucking fantastic
Frank's London, Broil all that
535
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,400
shit.
That everyone's like, just like
536
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,100
yes, the fucking one has one,
bro.
537
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Bring that out.
Do that at the tailgate have all
538
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,800
the old hokey favors?
People like me with eat that.
539
00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:03,100
Uh-oh, people love that shit.
If any if you had guys like
540
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:08,400
surge there, Dave on Morgan, you
know, and to us those were big
541
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,400
players.
Hey to the entire other world.
542
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,600
It's well tie rod was good in
the Edmonds and you know Vic and
543
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:21,900
white motherfucker like guys.
Like oh god.
544
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:28,000
Um like Sergio, I'm trying to
think freaking jail Grove life.
545
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,300
English boy long ago, Tweety we
work with Tweety's bad.
546
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:44,300
Awesome.
Yeah but it's like those easy
547
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,400
things where you ask Virginia
Tech Pam, I'll ask you to
548
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,700
Jeremy, you think of Alonzo
Tweety?
549
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:53,900
What's the first place?
You think of My, what the named
550
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:57,000
Alonzo Tweety?
The first place.
551
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
You think of when you think of
Alonzo, Tweety, fuck, did you
552
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,300
put me on the spot?
Will take you back to 2011
553
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,400
against Miami.
The last tackle Tweety made that
554
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,300
tackle.
Oh fuck you man.
555
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,500
Well the only reason we do like
his pops.
556
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,600
Yeah well that piece of There
Are Places their players like
557
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
that.
Then I can tell you right?
558
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,100
Like I could say who's your most
fan?
559
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:33,900
Random poke that only be random?
Yeah.
560
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:40,200
Just randomly Yeah.
Nikki Giovanni.
561
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:55,300
I love Nikki.
That is hard.
562
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:16,300
All right, I like that.
He was absolutely amazing and he
563
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,600
he just stuck with me and of
course, we have our football
564
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,700
players.
I mean, Anyway.
565
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:30,000
But yeah, it's hard to think of
so many people in the league for
566
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
my day.
Yeah, yeah.
567
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,500
So it's that's a grand random
for us.
568
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,100
Is like, okay, well they
released on a practice squad for
569
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,100
yaxha.
Yeah, exactly.
570
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:56,800
But it's like, how tough is it
to get these guys together?
571
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
But how tough is it for the
athletic department to Simply go
572
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,400
up and say let's create a
physician pay.
573
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,900
The person 65 thousand dollars a
year.
574
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,500
This is your job, you will
attempt to connect with every
575
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:15,000
hokey football alumni and you
will create a vents here on
576
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,500
campus during day and then
create events throughout the
577
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:19,900
state.
During the year to get these
578
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,700
guys together and talk and bring
unwanted You know, Hank fucking
579
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,300
needless jobs, they have on
campus.
580
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,300
I know exactly how many they
have on campus.
581
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,300
Don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying they can afford
582
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:43,200
a little extra for alumni.
Outreach exactly diffic to our
583
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,600
former players and I know Sergio
would do it.
584
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,200
He's dying to do it.
Get Sergio to do it.
585
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,200
I think Dwight would do it, but
I also don't think Dwight would
586
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000
leave Leave the 757 right now.
Yeah Dwight's not only do I
587
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,800
don't like going on there but
you know what this is not what
588
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:17,700
he is because he is a.
Why couldn't you just say will
589
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:22,000
make serves the primary will let
the white and run you said some
590
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,500
pops.
Is the widest, a 70 Nova,
591
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,100
there's a noble, but he's got a
lot of his stuff he works with
592
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:34,200
his in 7576.
He was still in the 757.
593
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,600
That's why I because he had all
the he has like Victory life and
594
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,300
everything.
Yeah, I think that that's still
595
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,000
in the Senate by someone.
I think he lives in Nova.
596
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,300
If I'm not mistaken.
God you tell me.
597
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,300
You couldn't stroke him a check
for 25,000 a year to do that
598
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,600
part.
Time to go create the gym
599
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,200
because I give a thousand a
month just to do that.
600
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:56,700
Shit.
That's just, what are you going
601
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,000
to do?
You're going to create your own,
602
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,800
what is it?
The 501 case is that the
603
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,100
nonprofit.
Let's let's create a pledge fund
604
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:17,300
and then just let no,
I'm not doing that to him.
605
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,300
Literally, that's all and
everyone was talking about.
606
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:56,500
It was.
Yeah, and it's not even just
607
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:58,300
like, randos coming in.
Talk to me.
608
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,200
You all know like everyone in
the know knew it was happening.
609
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,400
Yeah, it was all over Twitter.
It was all over message boards.
610
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,300
It was all over Word of Mouth.
Even counting all the noise out,
611
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,000
everything else.
Everyone in the know that you
612
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,300
all know that I know.
The people that aren't out there
613
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,800
tweeting about this stuff or
talking, they were saying the
614
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,500
same thing.
I was hearing the same thing
615
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:32,200
from people, that's just what I
thought we were going to do and
616
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,000
don't get me wrong.
I I don't want this to happen.
617
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
No.
Because I want to, to be the
618
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,900
greatest coach to ever be
because I think he's great coach
619
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:49,600
and I think he is a good person.
Let me know what you to succeed.
620
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,500
The problem is is I don't think
he can hear.
621
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,900
I think it's a bad fit and I
think he could go somewhere else
622
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,400
and do that.
But I think he came into a bad
623
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,700
situation.
I think he came into a place
624
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,300
where the infrastructure was not
there to give him the county
625
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:08,000
needed, because I don't think he
is a great recruiter, but I
626
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600
think he is an excellent coach
once he has them.
627
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,600
So we're essentially saying he's
not a guy that can go in.
628
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,700
He needs help getting them in
the building.
629
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,800
Once they're in the building
striking, do think and do some
630
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,700
action.
We all see the video from
631
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,700
ordered a night thing is once
their players and he's coaching
632
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,700
them, he's going to be a great
coach.
633
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,500
Ouch.
Okay.
634
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600
That is what I'm saying.
He's going to put them in
635
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,200
situations thing is he has to
know his limitations.
636
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:41,900
Yeah, I think he's good.
I think what he did in 2016 2017
637
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,000
shows that he knows what he's
doing.
638
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:50,300
Yep.
The problem is I think he has to
639
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:54,700
have people around him to do a
lot of things for him.
640
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,100
He can't be the person to go out
and sell the program.
641
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:02,500
Even though I like him
personally, Everyone likes him
642
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:06,600
personally, I don't think he's
that charismatic person to go
643
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,700
out.
He's the polar office owed a
644
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:13,100
bow, but also, I think he's five
billion times the coach Dabo
645
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:16,000
could ever fucking dream of
being caused a boatswain, he's
646
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,500
nothing.
But a fucking charlatan at
647
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:21,500
channeling are funneling money
through a goddamn truth.
648
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:24,400
That's all he fucking is fuck.
Dabo Swinney.
649
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,300
And he used that shooting to
fucking negatively recruit us
650
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:28,800
and I'll take that against him
too.
651
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:37,900
Fucking die.
So do you think that can sell
652
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:41,600
the program right now that are
on our staff that theft?
653
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,500
Yeah I'm thinking tab J, Hamm
and great.
654
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,500
Both of those guys are squares
Manning.
655
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:56,500
I'm counting it.
Jay Happ nasty but I was a
656
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,100
freshman when he was a senior R
& J.
657
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,700
Hamm was, I was one of those
freshman.
658
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,600
I was good enough to get in the
game.
659
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,400
Just a little bit.
This man.
660
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,700
He was good.
Yeah, I know what you do
661
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,000
anything with him.
He was a running back back then.
662
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:13,800
Yep.
Yeah it's just one of those
663
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,900
freak athletes and just mad you
can do anything with him.
664
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:25,100
My cousin Rob who was also a
freak athlete but he he swatted
665
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,800
J.
Hamm in basketball and that that
666
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,300
will always stick with me.
That's right.
667
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:35,300
Was a sophomore in the time?
Career highlight right there?
668
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,000
I don't know.
Rob had a lot of career
669
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,100
highlights.
That was just one of those
670
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:49,300
things that it was fun.
This have you met has been there
671
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:58,300
and this staff honestly can't
talk about that.
672
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Okay.
Yeah, that makes sense.
673
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,300
Give me a few words to what's
press conference on Monday.
674
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:42,800
She need a
yeah, so it's like what we're
675
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:55,000
trying to build a goddamn, the
people who complain Shut the
676
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,100
fuck up.
Come on.
677
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:23,900
Y'all.
But you know what?
678
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:27,200
Pissed me off more.
Well you can't just do this and
679
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400
just tear it down.
Well, you dumb fuck.
680
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,700
Excuse me.
If you like to it I think he's
681
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:33,300
good.
You dumb.
682
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,300
Fuck you saw it just tapping in
the portal.
683
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,900
You have a 3 and 9 season, it's
not going to be torn down.
684
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,600
It's going to be burnt down and
there's going to be no
685
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,300
structure.
Then we're going to figure out
686
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:47,600
what the fuck, dude, he actually
brought it up in the press
687
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,600
conference that, well, if we get
rid of him, we're not going to
688
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,600
have half our players.
It's my first.
689
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,500
Look what's going on right now.
Just say that.
690
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,200
Jesus, goddamn Christ.
Not the players that were
691
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,500
sitting third and fourth string
on the bench.
692
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:11,000
We lost his mother.
Yeah, he saw.
693
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,700
What was happening on Twitter?
He saw.
694
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,600
What the record was this year?
He saw the former players
695
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
chiming in.
He saw all of this stuff.
696
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:31,000
This, you know, you are astray.
It's just He was like, oh no.
697
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:03,900
Fantastic job with everything he
has touched except football.
698
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,200
All right?
That is the thing.
699
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,100
That is the trade-off when it
is.
700
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:12,500
God damn good at his job.
He's just I don't know what's
701
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:15,100
going on with football.
I don't know why this is
702
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,300
happening.
That's the thing is we got our
703
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,600
great athletic athletic
department overall.
704
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,200
We need more funding and we
destroyed the Rector and we've
705
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,300
got a, we've got Foo who is a
great coach.
706
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,600
But we're not getting the
results we want in football.
707
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:43,100
So there are infrastructure
issues, there are funding
708
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,000
issues.
There are a lot of issues.
709
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,500
I don't give a fuck.
Make it work.
710
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,000
Jesus, fucking Christ.
The thing that pisses me off the
711
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:11,000
most.
Yeah, I understand but I don't
712
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,700
really fucking care.
Is Big Ten school.
713
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,500
You don't have to.
You do this huge thing, we're
714
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,700
bringing all in the suit.
You're not going to have a bunch
715
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:24,800
of students want to come here.
If we don't have a culture who
716
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400
the fuck would want to come?
And just like go to a college
717
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,900
that don't have a culture, can
we show Sands the enrollment
718
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,100
figures going up and up and up
relative to the football
719
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:47,600
success.
We can show impact That's a
720
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,500
really long story.
The 95 boom went to Sugar Bowl
721
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,300
and then the night it were the,
it went from like nice steady
722
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:02,300
growth to look.
And it's like, first of all,
723
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:19,400
begin
Make a lot of statements or
724
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,600
judgments on anyone when I don't
know them or their thought
725
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,500
process because I'm a
fair-minded person.
726
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:30,400
So it's worth the but the
college football bubble is going
727
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,300
to burst.
He said that what six years ago
728
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:38,600
Braun seven years ago called I
want to say, I thought so 2014,
729
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
he said well college football
football bubble is going to
730
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,500
burst with the revenues.
What did He just not see the
731
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,700
SEC.
Get a 55 million dollar purse
732
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:53,100
full contract fucking Disney.
I don't think he quite
733
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:58,100
understands even if there are
attendance issues across the
734
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:04,600
board, there's still a lot of
goddamn TV money and that TV
735
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600
money and there's still a lot of
culture that brings kids into
736
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,800
want to come here.
Yeah.
737
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:12,100
Just want to go to a boring ass
school.
738
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,900
I don't know what to tell him,
but anyone can go.
739
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,300
Get a degree fucking anywhere.
Now, they consider their house
740
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,400
to get it in degree.
The reason the kids go to
741
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,200
college is to college
experience.
742
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,200
If they're paid a premium for it
and you're going, you're getting
743
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,000
the fucking experience and
you're getting a better
744
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,500
education and you're you're
getting everything that you
745
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:35,800
want.
But the case you were going to
746
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,400
come down, you're expanding your
horizons and meeting new people.
747
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,300
You're doing things that
actually, you can.
748
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,900
I know you grew up out in the
Far, West part of State.
749
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,600
We grow on the south side part
of the state.
750
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,300
We grew up in a very quick sap,
Deep South way.
751
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:58,400
We're middle South, we grew up
in small communities that for
752
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600
us, going to college and getting
those experiences and meeting
753
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,400
people.
You know, you know, and I know
754
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,100
that if we'd stayed in our
hometowns, we would never have
755
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,800
the opportunity ever to get
there to do.
756
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,700
Those sort of things to meet
those sort of people to go to
757
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:17,200
game.
Um, dates to have these
758
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
experiences.
That's why.
759
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,800
And if you're taking turning a
blind eye to not thinking that
760
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,200
six seven times a year, when
there's a game and when there's
761
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,100
a big game, there's 120,000
people.
762
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,100
That's his View and you said,
you've never personally met him.
763
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,000
I'm like to have a conversation
with him and saying, what do you
764
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
think?
Because education is important.
765
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:48,900
Don't get me wrong.
Yes, they I don't think he's
766
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:51,700
quite getting it and I'm not
sure he will.
767
00:54:52,200 --> 00:55:00,400
But we come from these small
towns and I came here because I
768
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,900
I actually came from a group of
people that were UVA fans,
769
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,500
believe it or not back in looks
outfits.
770
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:10,900
Virginia, my family, a bunch of
UVA fans because they had quote,
771
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:12,400
unquote UVA College.
It was.
772
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,400
And that's where my family went,
like in undergrad.
773
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:20,600
Okay.
And a girl, that's, the thing
774
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:28,200
is, I came here because I came
up here and he was like, dude,
775
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,600
you got to + Michael Vick was my
first First college football
776
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,800
game and that was awesome.
Fucking stomping Eva, he came
777
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,700
out and like I also my first NFL
game was Michael Vick versus
778
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,200
Peyton Manning, who my favorite
quarterback, saber, holy hell,
779
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,100
yeah, it was awesome.
Michael Vick when he can't die.
780
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:52,700
If you've not seen him throw a
pass in person.
781
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,300
It's a fucking laser.
Like hate it.
782
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,100
There's no there's no air under
the ball.
783
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,800
It's just fucking laser out
there.
784
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,400
It's amazing.
But more motion either.
785
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:13,500
It's a flick.
It just Let It Go.
786
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,800
That was a part of the culture
was Rock.
787
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Came here and Rob full-on was
just like Jeremy.
788
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,800
This is an amazing place to be
in college.
789
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,400
You need to come here and I was
like, of course, I need fucking
790
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,000
go there.
Rob's Probably sounds great.
791
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,700
It sounds amazing.
Yeah.
792
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,700
I mean do we think this sounds
really understands the impact
793
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:39,400
and we'll think about it. from
from your perspective, like the
794
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,100
economic impact of game day
weekends, like, just the
795
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:55,100
potential that's there and the
fact that it's not being Let me
796
00:56:55,100 --> 00:57:00,400
hear you ever went out into the
tailgate into the downtown area
797
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,900
when there is a game day and
literally the streets are
798
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:07,000
packed, bustling people in, and
out of all the shops people in
799
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,500
and out of all of the
restaurants, people Paine Park,
800
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:14,700
wherever they can park.
I want to say yes, but because
801
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:19,800
it's hard to avoid but it's one
of those things where I don't
802
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,700
know.
I mean, he has to have, but
803
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,800
you're mad.
Yeah, he's a prominent figure
804
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,800
out, they're out and about I
don't want to make a lot of
805
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,300
judgments on sands and his
character, because I don't
806
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,400
personally know.
Okay, but it's, that's not
807
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,700
something I will.
Do you all know me?
808
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:41,400
I will get fired up and I will
give my opinion on literally
809
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,200
anything, but I will reserve my
opinion when it comes to quite a
810
00:57:47,207 --> 00:57:48,900
bit of things that I don't quite
know.
811
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:51,600
Well, we're with you.
We with you for 20.
812
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800
Don't get us wrong.
I think you're good coach.
813
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,700
I think he's a good human being.
I think I want to hurt person,
814
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,100
but also you hear people, you
know, up here in our VA, we have
815
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
David to you, you know, great
sports writer for so many years
816
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,300
in Virginia.
And he says, if you step in the
817
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,700
office with him, he's so
different.
818
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
And you feel like if, if the
food that is just getting that
819
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,300
one-on-one sitting down in a
chair with you, You feel like if
820
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,500
you got him and some of the
donors like that the deal would
821
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,500
just be like just keep stroking
them checks like he's like me.
822
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,000
It's just everybody.
Every single person that I've
823
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,200
ever heard talk about him in a
smaller situation.
824
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:35,900
It's just like right?
Just he's great guy.
825
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:41,800
Now I lost my train of thought
there because I was at my beard
826
00:58:42,100 --> 00:59:22,300
and his partner.
It's one of those things where
827
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:28,600
it's a I'd like to hear from you
and your coordinators every
828
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,200
week, but I'd like to hear from
you on the radio in the markets
829
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,400
where your fan base is located.
I'd like to give you a lisp in
830
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Blacksburg.
I might see videos, listen to
831
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:47,700
the drive every day with Paul.
I absolutely love all three of
832
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:50,700
them.
I also get shit-faced drunk with
833
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:53,400
those people.
They are people.
834
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,600
They also have one of the best
radio shows out there.
835
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:58,500
Yeah.
I absolutely love them, and
836
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:01,600
people who don't listen to them,
need to listen to drive because
837
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:07,200
they are awesome.
But they have had issues in the
838
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,600
past, not so much with Foo, they
had a lot of problems with Buzz.
839
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:22,200
They Jeremy Why doesn't he go in
there for a 15-minute hit?
840
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:25,700
He could even pre-recorded with
them every week.
841
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Why doesn't he do that in
Richmond?
842
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,100
Why doesn't he do that in the
75?
843
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,400
Why doesn't he do that in Nova?
Why doesn't he do that up in
844
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,400
through the out?
The valley?
845
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,400
See that thing open it, dude,
you've got to get yourself out
846
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,900
there and then the other pieces
will be like during spring.
847
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:47,300
Open the scrimmages for people
in town and for the students you
848
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:50,900
can open it for 30 minutes.
At the end, people would come
849
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:56,800
what the people on the field.
It's the easy but it's the
850
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,700
funniest is, people are thinking
we have to do all these things.
851
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:02,600
Do the easiest stuff, you do,
the easiest stuff
852
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:25,100
that is.
I think a lot of our problems
853
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,000
have been us thinking what we
are doing is quite a good
854
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,500
enough, kind of like the high
school situation we have in 804
855
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:41,600
and 757 that we burned several
bridges in some of the more
856
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,700
prominent high schools in those
areas
857
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:04,400
and those kids and their
trainers.
858
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,800
Fuck all of them because guess
what?
859
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:11,400
Dollars just to continue,
talking to your five-star son.
860
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,900
No, go to hell, go fuck
yourself, I don't care.
861
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:17,300
No, they're sitting around
forever.
862
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,100
Oh, you need to recruit more,
you're going to send them out of
863
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,300
state.
Anyway, what the fuck do you
864
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:23,700
care?
You're just trying to push your
865
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:28,200
third tier athletes on us.
No, fuck you and fuck all them.
866
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:33,500
No, I'm not hearing that.
That number pretty bridges
867
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,300
burnt, thanks.
No, I'm sorry.
868
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:36,700
I'm sorry.
We're not Clemson.
869
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:38,100
I'm sorry.
We didn't get down in the mud.
870
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,100
Add too much, you know, maybe we
should maybe we fucking should
871
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:45,700
have but also fuck all those
coaches and fuck those trainers.
872
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,800
I will say this is a bigger
problem in 757 than it is in
873
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,400
other parts.
Of course it is 75 cent dirty
874
01:02:53,400 --> 01:03:12,400
shit you know what I know and I
definitely know it has found a
875
01:03:12,408 --> 01:03:14,600
way to monetize it.
They have found a little
876
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,400
industry there where they're
going to make.
877
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,300
Lunch money.
Yep.
878
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:21,400
And I want to see all of those
fuckers wrecked because they are
879
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,800
hurting the schools and state,
they are hurting these kids in a
880
01:03:24,808 --> 01:03:26,800
lot of ways because they sent
him off to programs that are
881
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,900
just paying for Access.
They'll do anything to these
882
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:31,500
kids.
How many kids are you seeing
883
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,700
like going off and these are
high ranked athletes?
884
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:39,800
They don't do shit better than
nothing since what about Steve
885
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:46,000
started with the 75771 7th 3rd,
Prince, but I want you all to
886
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,600
follow me.
Me through these last three
887
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,800
days.
Just follow me.
888
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,200
Yep.
We had the build up the huge
889
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,500
buildup.
We knew it was happening.
890
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Yeah.
You knew it was happening.
891
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:01,600
I knew it was happening.
We knew was happening.
892
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,500
Leaked on Twitter and now what's
that?
893
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:09,800
Fucking guys named Brendan
Murphy McMurphy the one more
894
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:16,800
week.
Hey, The fuck.
895
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,000
What?
I know what.
896
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:49,200
Sunday afternoon or Monday
morning, if we were keeping him
897
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:57,100
that shitty press conference,
All right, so we get that that's
898
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,900
Monday.
Then we get well and we're still
899
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:03,400
skeptical invited.
Maybe they really fucked it up
900
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,400
and they kept you.
I was skeptical until the tech
901
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,800
talk live.
Had food coming online.
902
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,300
Oh no, he's paying.
He went
903
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,400
blocker.
All right.
904
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,500
Oh, there's no way to hide it.
It was a shit show Witnesses.
905
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,900
We don't have to sugarcoat this.
It was a shit show.
906
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,500
That press conference was awful.
That was eight.
907
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:04,500
Shitshow train wreck that was
actually a train wreck.
908
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,800
Hauling manure.
That was awful.
909
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,900
Like come on.
How do you not know this is
910
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:32,200
going on?
But I said, wish you know that
911
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,300
to frustrating it's frustrating
and I like these people, but
912
01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:40,100
it's frustrating.
Yeah.
913
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,300
It's a to meet the whole
whipping, it felt like he was
914
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:46,100
coming out there and lecturing
us on while we were wrong
915
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:50,100
instead of saying here's why I
think I'm right, well.
916
01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:01,600
For all the bad things but hey,
I'm not going to speculate
917
01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:03,800
because I've speculated enough
for the day.
918
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:09,900
I think maybe.
Yeah.
919
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:33,300
That have not been here.
But one year, approximately say
920
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:38,500
that, but we dehumanize we need
to humanize somebody.
921
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,600
Well, guess what?
They don't let the guy talk.
922
01:08:42,899 --> 01:08:47,000
Let him talk to him, but yeah,
I'm talking about corn.
923
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:59,100
You have to talk y'all send one
positional coach out and players
924
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,700
out.
Since you're you going I was
925
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:07,000
apologizing for corn.
I was actually very Pro corn at
926
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,600
the beginning, the season, our
offense was rolling, everything
927
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,399
was going pretty well.
I was I was fully Bob in the
928
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,300
problem I have with corn in
general is not so Much.
929
01:09:18,899 --> 01:09:21,500
The design of the offense were
the plays.
930
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:23,500
Its the situational play
calling.
931
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,399
Yes but it's hard for me.
It's hard for me to actually
932
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:32,800
because if it happened to work,
yeah, great.
933
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,800
He's a genius which know what's
I think ever called him.
934
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:42,800
But I have a hard time
criticizing play calling because
935
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,399
I think that is like the lowest
hanging fruit whenever you get
936
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:50,800
when it is over.
Production that I care about and
937
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:54,100
I was very pleased at the
beginning of the season, but it
938
01:09:54,100 --> 01:10:02,000
became so apparent that we were
having issues that it's thing
939
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,300
about corn is, it's not even so
much the question play calling
940
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:08,300
or anything else.
I'm sure he's a great person.
941
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:13,600
I'm sure he is a little more
cerebral and likes to think his
942
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,000
offenses and people who
criticized him for running a
943
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,200
simple off.
Fence.
944
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:21,200
That's how most offenses are
like.
945
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,600
Granted you tend to run six to
seven plays, you just do them
946
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,500
out of different formations.
I mean, corn decided to cut the
947
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:35,400
middleman, just do a matter of
one formation, but that's not my
948
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,600
Peak.
Its criticism of him was.
949
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:42,700
I'm just not seeming that fuckin
care.
950
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:48,100
Yeah.
That that got me this year.
951
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:53,500
Can I say this?
I think us three any part of
952
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:58,700
hokey notion hopes, which right
in anymore definitely help with
953
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:02,500
right, I hope that one year from
now.
954
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:05,600
I could to say, well fuck what
was right?
955
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,800
We're going to play off or we're
going on the Rose Bowl.
956
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,400
We're going.
We crushed it, he nailed it.
957
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,400
And I think there are too many
people out there that don't want
958
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,300
him to be, right?
And that is the issue.
959
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,300
If you don't want the guy to be
right, then you need to leave.
960
01:11:22,300 --> 01:11:25,500
You can criticize, you can give
your logical explanation.
961
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:26,400
Why?
You don't think it'll work,
962
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,700
that's that's acceptable, but if
you're sitting here saying, I
963
01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:32,500
don't want him to be right.
Well if you don't want them to
964
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:35,800
rewrite your not a hokey and you
need to leave the fan base and
965
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,300
don't come back ever because
you've you're actually not a
966
01:11:40,308 --> 01:11:43,100
real fan.
You care more about being right
967
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,900
than your team being good if you
do that shit, then fuck you.
968
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:52,500
You don't care about your team.
And that's that's my biggest
969
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:54,600
thing.
With some people I want to be
970
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,700
right, I want food to be the
best so I can go to ever exist
971
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:02,100
and I think he is a great coach.
I really, really do.
972
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:08,400
I think he came to us who was in
a bad situation just to actually
973
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,600
give a coach like through the
infrastructure that he needed.
974
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,400
It was a bad fit, that's what I
think.
975
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:16,700
Yeah.
And now we have to build the
976
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,600
fit.
The problem is, is we've lost a
977
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,100
lot of our momentum and
credibility in the along, the
978
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,200
way.
And so as Foo, and so has our
979
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,100
program.
So now we are building from the
980
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:32,900
ground up for build from the
ground up.
981
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:40,600
And I do see this, because if
you actually look at it with a
982
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,100
reinvestment in, Into football
and how we're trying to do it.
983
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:49,800
It is a rebuild from your one.
I get that messaging agree with
984
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,500
that messaging.
Yeah, I mean I think the big
985
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:58,100
thing is like the thing that
this program hasn't done
986
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:03,500
historically is striking on
infrastructure fronts while you
987
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:07,400
have the capital to do so
whether it's yeah literal
988
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:12,100
capital or whether it's brand
Capital, Virginia cat can Afford
989
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,000
whatever Virginia Tech wants to
afford.
990
01:13:14,900 --> 01:13:20,400
Anyone talking about anything?
No, they have, they have more
991
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,600
money than most like, small
cities.
992
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200
It's they can do whatever they
want if they really want to.
993
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:29,700
He's got to move the money where
it needs to be.
994
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,700
You're going to throw some that
make us and we'll talk Corporate
995
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:39,300
America because that's what I
work in in Prime, working me for
996
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:42,800
a while, occasionally in
Corporate America, the people
997
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,500
who are making the money, who
are crushing it, they see the
998
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:48,100
benefits.
They see the updates and
999
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,500
Technology.
They see the biggest pay raises,
1000
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,400
where the other sectors.
Don't football, is the biggest
1001
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,100
sector.
Of the Virginia Tech athletic
1002
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,500
department.
And what's happened is, we
1003
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:02,700
haven't dumped the money into it
because if you dump the money
1004
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:07,600
into it's going to produce.
Now, what really the problem is,
1005
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,200
we got fold with, we've got
spoiled with Beamer, you got to
1006
01:14:10,208 --> 01:14:12,600
understand.
Yeah, be no good and everyone
1007
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,800
else, we got spoiled one fucking
behind.
1008
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
We not way behind.
We were used to our name, our
1009
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,300
goddamn fucking assistant,
payroll used to be fourth in the
1010
01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:25,600
fucking country when you started
school.
1011
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:29,800
And we're working Juniors and
sophomores challenge.
1012
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,900
Came to us.
Came to us and said, I want to
1013
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:34,800
play for you.
What do you mean?
1014
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,800
11 came, the best player in the
country came, and he, if he
1015
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,600
lived up to the billing Tyrod,
Taylor was the top dual threat
1016
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:50,900
quarterback, in 2007 Tyree.
One Billing is the best hokey to
1017
01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:53,200
ever put on a uniform.
Oh God, here we go.
1018
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:12,400
I love tie rod to the
person.
1019
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,800
He is the embodiment of poop.
Rossum.
1020
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,000
He is, you know why?
Because he could on the San
1021
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,200
Diego Chargers right now and he
decided not to That won't hold
1022
01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:35,100
a half billion are without even
a blank.
1023
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,400
He didn't because he knew it was
an accident.
1024
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,000
I'll get into this.
And I got called out for it.
1025
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,900
On Twitter about people that
don't quite understand that I
1026
01:15:43,907 --> 01:15:48,700
know what I'm talking about, but
they were talking about, oh, his
1027
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,600
collective.
Bargaining agreement says that
1028
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,000
he Can't do this or that.
That doesn't matter when it
1029
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,300
comes down to negligence.
Yes, no.
1030
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,400
Yeah, he could have, but it's
also a steep slope to try to
1031
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:09,200
prove Reckless, negligence on a
doctor on Game Day, who's trying
1032
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,100
to take here?
It's a steep slope.
1033
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,800
That would have been very hard
to prove.
1034
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,300
They would have had to be in.
Like, all right, we we tested
1035
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:20,400
this doctor and he was positive
for meth.
1036
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:30,400
And yes they would have had to
happen so that's it Tyro.
1037
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,400
So I'm going to take that, hit
challenging that but no
1038
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,000
not-not-not.
It wasn't worth a damn move on
1039
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:39,300
move.
All this wouldn't be a problem
1040
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,200
with the bills when I fucked
him, the the Bills fan base.
1041
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:48,500
I'll say right now, I hate you.
Vince, for Nathan, peeterman
1042
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:55,600
beer, Nathan Peterman - I'll
never forget that game.
1043
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,200
Then you're like, hey, tie rod.
Do you want to come in and save
1044
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,500
us?
Yeah, sure why not?
1045
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:03,500
He took the bills to the
playoffs.
1046
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,500
It was like the first time in
fucking statue on that goddamn
1047
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:13,000
down.
I'm so mad at them.
1048
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,800
All right, we're gonna move.
I will ask you some we what we
1049
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,600
we've got a couple questions and
then you get to pick games with
1050
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,900
us in a little while here.
Alright, so we've all for you.
1051
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,100
What are your three top games
you've ever been to?
1052
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:35,300
Oh, that's bleep.
All games, I'm going to say, One
1053
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:37,500
of my favorites.
It's it's a weird random.
1054
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:46,000
One was West Virginia.
My freshman year, I was
1055
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,100
shirtless, I got an ESPN because
it was freezing cold, and I was
1056
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:56,800
just drunk as shit.
And I was up there in the North
1057
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,300
End Zone and I was going.
Wow, and they got me, I was
1058
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:04,700
actually doing my little
alcohol.
1059
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:13,800
All the I'm doing that and doing
that.
1060
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,600
But it looks like my hands are
really cold.
1061
01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:43,600
A older older brother, was my
aura at him and Sydney he played
1062
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,700
basketball hand in Sydney.
Does that make sense?
1063
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:31,500
It was on multiple levels and it
doesn't matter.
1064
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:37,500
As far as overall wins or
anything else.
1065
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:42,500
It felt like I was back in Old
Lane again.
1066
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:48,000
Okay, okay, I can feel that like
everyone.
1067
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,400
It was fucking wild.
Everyone was just tuned in.
1068
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,800
Everyone was going crazy over
everything.
1069
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:56,900
And then, what do I hear in the
distance?
1070
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,300
He get in mother fucker.
Do you know what that did to us?
1071
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:10,900
People do not understand.
Especially Weaver did not
1072
01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:16,200
understand.
That music hits us in a certain
1073
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,300
way coming through in that
moment.
1074
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,600
Oh my God.
What a way to reintroduce?
1075
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,400
It thing is there were a lot of
kids to have.
1076
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,500
That didn't quite know what take
it in.
1077
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,400
These people are losing their
minds.
1078
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:38,200
Besides the first one, I gave
two of those were in years that
1079
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,900
we didn't have to be all that
great.
1080
01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:46,800
It's true, very true.
I'll we want we want our
1081
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,900
culture.
We want our environment.
1082
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,900
We Want It Rock and we want it
crushing and but you also.
1083
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:59,600
You're number one, you're number
one was when the culture was
1084
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,300
when the environment
motherfuckers were scared to
1085
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:07,600
drive down 81 and you got into
the mountains and the smokes
1086
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,100
rolling off and control and you
go in there.
1087
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,000
I'm getting chills thinking
about it because we did it at
1088
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Pitt and me and Brian are
driving.
1089
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,600
You can see it rolling and you
know, they're coming from
1090
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,300
Roanoke.
And they start weaving and they
1091
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:25,400
start weaving.
And then it's always the wall,
1092
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,300
always considered the wall to
Virginia, Tech as you take the
1093
01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:31,600
exit to 460.
Yep, and wall.
1094
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:34,400
And you start going back there
in the road gets a little
1095
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,300
smaller and then there's just
getting a little better.
1096
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,700
Get a little smaller.
Those years that Stadium.
1097
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,900
I had a girl that went to wife
that went to college me and my
1098
01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:50,300
wife.
Huge Penn State fan parents went
1099
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:51,600
to Penn State always went up
there.
1100
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:55,600
She went to Lane one time and
when she came back, she said as
1101
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,400
fucking louder and beat her, I'm
like yeah, hit it a lot louder,
1102
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:12,800
that's what we want Tennessee.
Thing you could ever actually do
1103
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:17,600
like the the only way they can
make it worse, was if Jerry
1104
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,700
Sandusky were eating.
He was eating children after the
1105
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:22,600
fact.
That's the only way.
1106
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,200
It could be worse and they still
have a football program money
1107
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,600
speaks.
Yep.
1108
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,400
Well fuck em.
Fuck them.
1109
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:38,400
They should not have a program.
Jesus Christ, Cincinnati through
1110
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:43,200
them underneath to laws teams.
In Ohio, State play four games
1111
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,200
this year, the third best team
in the country.
1112
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,700
How do you know?
They played four games when we
1113
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:51,500
do start, when you start them,
number two, and to start the
1114
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:58,500
year, regardless of, when they
start playing, yelling sighs is
1115
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:38,900
real.
What record should save when
1116
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:43,300
loss managers who were winning
and losing to, to be honest.
1117
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,300
That's a good answer that's
actually similar to what I would
1118
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:53,300
say if I had to give an answer
on that because to me if we can
1119
01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:57,300
put out a competitive team that
doesn't lose games that we
1120
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:00,600
shouldn't and can still be in
the coastal conversation at the
1121
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:17,400
embassy.
but,
1122
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:49,600
They've got a defensive
Foundation that they're building
1123
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,400
upon and they've got an offense
that is competent when they're
1124
01:25:54,400 --> 01:26:00,000
not giving the ball away.
I mean, look up our schedule.
1125
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,600
Probably the team up the road
from us is the team.
1126
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:09,000
You don't want us to lose to
diversity Richmond, U of R will
1127
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:55,800
be rich.
This could be a downward spiral
1128
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,000
that is going to be hard to
recover from.
1129
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,900
If we lose black diamond in the
cup, in the same year,
1130
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,500
especially if you couple that
with another loss or two that's
1131
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,000
bad.
So they don't tend to see them
1132
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:13,400
West Virginia and then Richmond.
okay, so we might want to Then
1133
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,800
we go into Notre Dame.
Holy shit.
1134
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:22,300
And then Virginia, why are we
play Virginia?
1135
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:59,500
That's the only way.
Yeah, that's kind of where we
1136
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:01,300
are to.
We looked at the schedule, we
1137
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:04,000
looked at the pieces that we're
losing.
1138
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:10,600
I mean, we can't lean on our
running game with our first
1139
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,600
round left.
Tackle headed to the NFL and two
1140
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,500
guys.
There were supposed to be Either
1141
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:22,300
starters or serious rotation
players next year.
1142
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,600
Hitting the portal like you
can't lean on your running game
1143
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,100
anymore.
I mean, I feel like if we had
1144
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:31,400
some consistency with the
offensive line, I'd feel good
1145
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,800
with Holston Blackshear, doing
some other things, and some of
1146
01:29:34,808 --> 01:29:38,500
the other guys we've got coming
in but we've been assured.
1147
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,500
Look at the schedule.
I mean, we said, do we get to
1148
01:29:50,500 --> 01:29:53,800
invite you back a year from now?
And you get to talk about a new
1149
01:29:53,800 --> 01:30:01,800
head coach.
No, I got, you know, even if we
1150
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,500
shit the bed and go 4 and 8.
They won't do it.
1151
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,900
So you think we're at the point
now where if it were, if it
1152
01:30:10,900 --> 01:30:13,200
wasn't this year we're riding it
out.
1153
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,000
We're running out for a couple
of years.
1154
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:20,700
We had so many people transfer
We had.
1155
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:29,100
Everything else happen.
The excuse next year, will be We
1156
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:33,900
had a bunch of people transfer
and covid happen and we're in a
1157
01:30:33,907 --> 01:30:36,000
down here, it'll be fine next
year.
1158
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:40,100
Well, hold on, all the people
will transfer in.
1159
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:42,300
This is where I will stick up
and I'll go right after
1160
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:46,100
somebody.
You need your job to keep these
1161
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:49,800
players in the program.
Coaches.
1162
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,000
It is your job.
It is your job to figure out
1163
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,200
what motivates them to keep them
in the program, not to put their
1164
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,900
name in the portal.
We are the second most portal
1165
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:04,400
University.
In the last three years.
1166
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,700
The second most.
Yes, and we have been on the
1167
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:11,300
good side.
I have a feeling we're about to
1168
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:16,200
be on the bad side.
So, you think there's I mean, I
1169
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:22,500
mean, depression-era poverty.
In 2022.
1170
01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:50,900
We had our window or window is
burned out with fucked up.
1171
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,500
So we have gotten to a point now
where it's going to have to, as
1172
01:31:58,500 --> 01:32:01,200
we alluded to, we're going to
have to burn it down to build it
1173
01:32:01,208 --> 01:32:06,200
back up.
Congratulations, guys.
1174
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,900
We're the little brother.
We're poverty.
1175
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,800
Welcome.
It's not fun here, guys.
1176
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,300
This is not fun.
No, it's not.
1177
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:19,600
It's not.
This is not where we want to be
1178
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,800
and that was when you're someone
like, I'm not a negative person.
1179
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,500
No, you know, especially when it
comes to our Sports.
1180
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,500
I don't know how we rebound from
this.
1181
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:35,800
I don't.
I guess the only thing you can
1182
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:41,000
say is pray to God miracles
happen and we win games now
1183
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,900
fuck.
That will win games without with
1184
01:32:44,900 --> 01:33:34,500
miracles.
It sucks.
1185
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,300
He got hired here before should
have got hired in the position,
1186
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,500
a lot of shit.
And we mentioned it here
1187
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:43,900
numerous times a year.
Five years, Bobby it, now
1188
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:01,300
don't get me wrong, he's good at
that he can sell recruits and
1189
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:04,700
everything else.
But he's five yourself.
1190
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:08,000
You think you would have been
better like putting the position
1191
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,000
as like.
Recruiting coordinator.
1192
01:34:12,500 --> 01:34:16,200
In terms of like coaching staff,
recruiting coordinator a guy
1193
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,900
from the the coaching staff
level working with those pieces.
1194
01:34:19,900 --> 01:34:22,800
And then also that way he's more
of a front-facing guy but not
1195
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,900
necessarily X's and O's on the
field as much outside of his
1196
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:30,500
position.
Now I think J Hamm knows
1197
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:34,200
everything.
Technically all to shit.
1198
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:38,200
Okay, very good.
The thing about a coordinator is
1199
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:42,600
they actually know have to know
how to manage everything down
1200
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,100
through.
There J Hamm will run a good God
1201
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:50,400
damn defense.
He's good at what he does.
1202
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,700
He has a good mind for what he
does.
1203
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:57,800
He just needs time to actually
know how to adjust his people to
1204
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,800
get it too.
And the way he envisions that is
1205
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,700
the difference.
Okay, got it.
1206
01:35:04,700 --> 01:35:07,700
Got it makes sense.
He's going to be great one day,
1207
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:11,800
he's going to be a superstar.
Guarantee that?
1208
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,000
Is he gonna be our superstar in
like three years?
1209
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,700
Because you're scared.
See Jeremy because you live in
1210
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:24,600
there.
You're putting this reality on
1211
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:30,900
me, that essentially.
Almost until the contracts are
1212
01:35:30,900 --> 01:35:33,300
out.
This is what we're stuck with
1213
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,600
and it could be really bad
bursted, where if you were to
1214
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:44,500
tell me know if we start next
year bov is just going to kick
1215
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:46,200
with to the side.
They're going to get food
1216
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,600
decide.
They're going to get a new 80
1217
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:56,100
and higher holding you program.
Be a period piece, and a lot of
1218
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:59,300
people aren't happening.
Aren't happy with that bov.
1219
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,900
No, because that's the piece
that essentially say what you
1220
01:36:04,907 --> 01:36:09,400
want to say that in the
president's, to do control the
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athletic department of time, and
if they're sitting there and
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especially this year again, you
mentioned it already.
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We've talked about it there, the
winds work, the change was
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coming.
Somebody was going to get hired
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when I was going to get hired
and it was gonna be one of those
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boot.
I don't think may help would lie
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to us.
So you think that you think the
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bov was completely on board?
Not counting, the additional
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revenue is in town.
You have to see that, right?
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Oh, you were smarter than me?
I'm a simple.
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Yes.
And a revenue is not a big deal
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to me.
Yes, it's not a big deal, but
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it's a big deal to all of the
people are represented Resent.
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Yeah, what you got Curtis.
It's just one of those things
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where you again, you feel like
it's the truth that the fans,
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the $25, or the people driving
from Richmond, a couple times a
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year down on the program.
The kids, who are going there
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going on in the program anymore.
Well, as recalibrate and a fun
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night here with dr.
Jeremy counts.
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That's going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
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podcast.
We thank you, Jerry for joining
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us.
No,
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my name is Curtis Wilson,
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and podcasts.
We always let our buddy.
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Catch him on Spotify and apple
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Germany.
We want you to finish this off.
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Let's go.
Oh cute.
Lord King of Blacksburg
Lord Jeremy Counts is a Virginia Tech alumnus and local pharmacist. He wears many hats in the Blacksburg community: Virginia Tech donor, Hokie non-revenue sports sponsor, Hokie Sports podcast sponsor, and Blacksburg small business owner. His rooted interest in various elements of the Virginia Tech athletics department and the Blacksburg business community gives him a unique perspective on the decision making process of university.