We're back for the fourth annual Hokies Preview Panel featuring some of the best names in Hokies independent Media. This year for segment 1 we've got Danny Nokes, Mike McDaniel and David Cunningham ready to preview what is a pivotal season both for Brent Pry and the future relevancy of Virginia Tech athletics.
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And welcome back to the Boundary
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I am Curtis Wilson.
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something.
This is what fear for.
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We're year 4 at this point.
I think we started back in back
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in 22 was the first one we did.
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people on screen at once.
Yeah, yeah, we got a little
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better about what we're doing as
far as layout is concerned.
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But and also thankfully the the
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thing has gotten better in the
process to make make what we do
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look a little bit cleaner, but.
You know what?
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First year, it's kind of crazy.
Yeah.
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This thing has gotten so much
better because I'm pretty sure I
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wasn't on that first year.
I don't know if Sheldon was on
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that first year.
Oh, me and Shelton wasn't on it.
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It was trash.
Hey, it's got much better.
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It's got much better year after
year, baby.
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Well.
Trash was improved.
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No, I'm joking.
Shelton how you doing man
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tonight?
Dude, I've been good, man.
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We're we're getting closer to go
time here with the with the
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season.
Obviously my season 2, but I
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was, I was, I was thinking as I
was driving, driving back home,
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You know, it's like no matter
what happens in the football
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offseason, whether it's positive
or negative or neutral, I feel
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like once August rolls around,
you always get that super
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excited feeling inside of you
that football's finally back and
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it's really a feeling like no
other sport can really provide.
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And so I'm just glad that all
the offseason negativity has
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sort of faded away and we're
kind of start, you know,
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starting to get back in to think
of things here.
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And we could.
We can just watch some ball.
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Ain't that the truth?
I have to agree with you 100%
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regardless.
Like right now, you're at that
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point where if you've been upset
with the team, you're getting
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less upset, right?
Tally?
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Tally's been, you know, Tally
was fart on him, but it's
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getting closer.
He's interviewed some players,
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he talked with some people, he's
seen some shit and now it's, you
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know, we are what, 10 days, 11
days, 11 days, 11 days to go
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time. 11 days to go time man.
Like Sheldon said though, man,
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it's all about like sports fan,
just life, you know what I'm
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saying?
Like whenever football comes
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around, you know that the
season's changing.
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Like here in Huntsville, it
started like a storm came
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through today.
So it went from like 92 to 80
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within like an hour.
I was like, oh, OK, maybe fall's
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coming around.
So you know what I'm saying,
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with football brings fall, with
fall brings, you know, the
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leaves changing colors and
things like that, 'cause my wife
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don't really care about
football, but she loves fall
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time.
So yeah, it's that time, man, we
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are.
It is almost upon us.
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Yes, it is.
And tonight as always with the
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panel, we have got some of the
best in basically the Hokie you
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can call it podcast, you can
call it writing, you can call it
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everything.
These are guys are some of the
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best out there.
The world.
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In the.
World in the world, Curtis.
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Best hokey guys in the world.
We got 2 panels tonight.
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Let's bring on and, and The
thing is that what I love about
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it, all six of them, it's it's
no longer like we were talking
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in here before we jump on, it's
like a reunion, like family
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reunion.
We haven't seen everybody in a
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while, you know, talk to
everybody, but it's like family
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reunion.
I love it.
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Let's bring them on and
introduce them real quick.
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Boom, boom, boom.
Before we get into it, starting
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first here, Mike McDaniel of the
Hokie Hangover Podcast, the BC,
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the BC Podcast, ACC Sons of
Saturday Hoops, still writing
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for Sports Illustrated, still a
father.
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As Tally said to him, he looked
a lot older.
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Good to see you, Mike.
Still getting carried though.
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Still go carried though.
All good.
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That's a good all good.
In the middle layer, managing
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editor of Tech Sideline D
Connor.
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What is up my man?
Hey, this is you guys were
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talking about a tradition unlike
any other.
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It's an honor to be back.
I always enjoy chatting with you
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guys.
Thanks for having me.
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All right.
Hey, DCDC got the hat, the side
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kind of hat, the hat kind of
sideways today.
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So I know he's feeling pretty
good.
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He's feeling.
Good.
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He got a little sun there too,
last but.
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Not for practice though.
Not from practice.
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We can get into that in a second
Last, but certainly not Lee, Co
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host of the Victory Live
podcast.
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Man did some play by playing
screen games.
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It's always good to have him
back.
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Danny knows what's going on.
Not too much, guys.
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Like David said, it's an honor
and a privilege to be back on
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one of the best traditions in in
Hokies football before the
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season.
And and it's an honor also to be
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a part of such an awesome
community of, of creators that
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love this team and love this
program and, and love their alma
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mater.
So hopefully, hopefully we could
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spread a little bit of
positivity, but we're also going
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to be real here over the next
several minutes.
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You know what's real, Danny?
What's that?
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That mic that you got?
Yeah.
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Sound like a boss?
Hey, hey, I, you know, I, I've
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done a lot of radio shows in DC
from this seat right here with
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this microphone.
I I have to at least sound like
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a professional right now.
Like a tone.
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So Danny Noakes.
Yeah, Danny Noakes.
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Well, we are here.
To talk about Hokies football.
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So let's get that started.
Brian Siegler.
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Yeah, I mean, we're going to
start it like this.
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I mean, and, and you know,
Danny, you alluded to it a
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little bit when we talked about
this being a tradition and, you
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know, wanted to bring some
positivity, but also wanting to
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be real about expectations and
kind of what we want to see this
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year.
I'm going to start with
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offensive line.
I mean, this is a we we focus on
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the trenches here, you know,
unabashedly.
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We we definitely have have our
hopes of of victory and defeat
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kind of pinned on what's going
to happen in the trenches.
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So we're going to start with
offensive line.
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It seems like it's kind of set
with the starters there with,
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you know, remark and Garrett at
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You got a altooner there and
Lathan and Cunningham holding
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down the guard positions.
I'm going to start this one,
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Mike and we'll we'll go kind of
around the horn here on on what
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you guys think, but I'll start
with Mike here.
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In your opinion, who is the most
important offensive line starter
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in this unit as it in terms of
what's going to dictate Hokey's
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success for this year?
I've been beating this drum on a
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couple different podcasts.
It's Montavius Cunningham
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because because it's the guy
that we all thought last
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offseason when he entered the
portal and came to Virginia
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Tech, we all thought that he was
going to be a guy who was going
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to contribute right away.
He wasn't that guy, right?
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Or was he?
Kind of nowhere to be found
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right on an offensive line that
was, I would say, suspect for a
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lot of last year.
Right now, he's being relied
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upon as one of the guys to come
in and contribute and, you know,
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really be kind of a stalwart on
a reworked offensive line with a
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new coach and all these new
faces.
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Now, Virginia Tech's heavily
relying on him.
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So we can look at this one of
two ways.
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One, he's improved a lot.
He's healthier.
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He's in a better place, right?
And it's a new coach anyway, so
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maybe he's just improved and
developed.
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Or we can look at it as Virginia
Tech had nobody else to put
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there.
We're going to find that answer
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out really, really quickly
against South Carolina.
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And I think he's the most
important guy all year.
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Virginia Tech's had trouble,
they trouble towards the end of
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the Fuente era.
They've had trouble now
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obviously throughout the first
three years of pry of really
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having consistency up front on
the offensive line, whether it
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be health or just overall
production.
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And this is kind of a make or
break year, right?
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You bring in, you bring in Matt
Moore to patch things up.
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You bring in, you know, a host
of transfers, 2 of them came
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over with Matt Moore from West
Virginia.
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It, it really needs to be good
right away, especially with an
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offense that is going to be
breaking in.
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So many new faces, so many new
playmakers at the skill
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positions, at receiver
especially, a lot of young guys
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are going to have to contribute.
So you've got to figure out
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offensive line and most
importantly got to keep Kyron
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drones upright, which was an
issue last year obviously.
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And the season really started
going sideways when he wasn't
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healthy.
Absolutely.
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I agree with that.
Danny, I'll let you take a
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second here.
Well, I think I think it's Remac
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and and obviously he's probably
coming in with the most
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experience, you know, started
all 13 games at West Virginia
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last year and and Virginia Tech,
despite the struggles over both
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the last few years of Fuentes
time and with with Brent prize
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first few years, they they have
found some gems in the transfer
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portal and and they're going to
need some more outside of Remac
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this year.
We'll get into some of the other
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positions all over the rest of
the offense and the defense too,
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But I, I just think that he
brings in a lot of experience
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and is a talented player too.
So I, I know our buddy Dwight
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Vick, a former offensive lineman
himself, is, is always harping
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on the offensive line, needing
to be better, needing to be
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aggressive, needing to have an
attitude.
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And he's absolutely right about
that.
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It's just going to make the
offense's job a lot easier.
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And, and Mike already talked
about how important it's going
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to be for Kyron drones to, to be
kept upright this year, for tech
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to, to have any decent chance
at, at winning more than six
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games.
And not to mention their their
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backfield, who there's a lot of
new faces in the backfield this
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year as well, But there's also a
lot of talent and, and a lot of
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experience and other programs
that's, that's going to get some
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touches there that, that
that'll, that Kyron Jones will
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be handing the ball off too.
So it's all going to start up
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front.
I think Remack is a guy that can
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come in and, and could sort of
establish that mentality that
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they're going to need to have
to, to to win football games
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this season.
I think if they are going to win
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more than six games, it's going
to have to look like classic
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Virginia Tech football.
They're going to need to run it
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down people's throat on offense
and they're going to with a few
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big plays on the outside.
And then they're going to need
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to play really stout defense.
So I think Remack is my guy.
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Yeah, you mentioned Remack and
we we obviously knew when he was
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coming in, he was going to be a
pivotal part of what this
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offensive line was going to be
about.
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And we've seen we had a couple
of depth charts as far as the
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first unit offensive line throw
out there that for whatever
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reason had Remack on the left
side next to Lathe and not on
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the right like we had expected
next to Cunningham.
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Speaking of Cunningham, David,
tell me what you think about
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this one and and let me know if
there's any truth to these
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shuffling of the guard or if
you've mostly seen Remack line
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up it right there.
Yeah, Remack has mostly been on
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the right, exactly what you said
at the beginning.
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I'll take a different route than
Mike and Danny.
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I'll go with Kyle Altuner, the
center retro freshman.
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He's going to start at center.
And this is a guy who was
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recruited originally to West
Virginia by Matt Moore.
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He's from Maryland, so he's a
DMV guy, Our Lady of Good
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Counsel, pretty good high school
prospect.
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Matt Moore, the new offensive
line coach, he knows his lineman
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and he's a guy who tons of
praise for Altuner, not just
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him, but Pry as well.
When Brett Pry spoke with us at
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ACC media day, he said he and
Matt Moore had a conversation
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about just what the offensive
line was going to look like.
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And Matt Moore said that's my
guy at center, Kyle Altuner.
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He's like, you're talking about
retrofreshman, a guy who hasn't
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played a snap in college and he
goes, that's my guy.
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And it kind of tells you the
confidence that they have in him
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that, you know, he hasn't
touched a college football field
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yet in a real game.
And he's going to be this barter
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and it's there's not really,
there's no competition.
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It's going to be him, his
maturity.
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The the coaches have praised
that aspect.
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Just the way he leads.
He doesn't play like a like a
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retrofreshman or a freshman.
He he plays like a guy who's
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been doing it for a long time.
Danny and Mike made really good
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points about how important this
offense is in in in terms of the
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run game in the offensive line
and keeping Kyron drones
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upright.
A red shirt freshman in the
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middle of that offensive line
that that's a little bit scary,
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but at the same time, it seems
like he's going to be a guy that
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they're going to be able to rely
on not just for this year but
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for years to come.
And I think that's exciting
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because you're a Virginia Tech
fan and you're looking for some
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young guys like who are young
guys that we can watch out for
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that are going to be in this
program for a long time.
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Remember, this is the transfer
portal era.
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I'm and go all the time.
But with Matt Moore at the helm,
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I feel pretty confident that
that Kyle Altuner is going to be
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here for a while.
And Brent Pryor said that's a
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guy who could potentially be a
long time Virginia Tech captain
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for years to come.
So I'm excited if he might not
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burst out of the gates in in
week one against a, you know, a
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really good South Carolina
defense.
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But I think he's going to have a
big year.
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Yeah.
And I mean, when we looked to
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last year, there was like a
moment before I think some
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injuries set in for for Altoona,
where he was even, yeah, at West
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Virginia potentially pushing for
some, some very early snaps.
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So to see him come in here and
really pick up right where he
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left off before those injuries
last year kind of derail, that
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is it's pretty big.
And I'm looking forward to it.
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I'm going to kick it over to
Shelton and let him ride with
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this next one.
Yeah, we're talking defense now.
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Obviously it's been almost about
half a year since Sam Kiev has
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got got hired as Virginia Tech's
new defensive coordinator.
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Obviously, you know, we see it.
He's very analytical and process
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driven and just super detail
oriented.
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He talks a lot about situational
football.
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So when you guys think about the
defense under Sam Tsukas, what
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excites you the most about the
potential of this group?
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Let's start with Deacon and then
go to Danny.
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Yeah.
I think his ability to mix
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things up and, and something
that he's said that stood out to
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me was, and all coaches can say
this, but I think he's actually
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one that's going to do it
because he has done it in the
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past is base, his defense and
his game plan around what other
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teams are doing.
He's not just going to sit down
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as the previous defensive
coordinator did and run the same
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stuff over and over regardless
of situation.
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He's a guy who will adapt as he
has under his, when he was in
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the NFL, under those head
coaches and also in his time at
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like Wofford, adapting to
different styles of offense that
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he's facing.
That excites me the most.
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And I think he truly understands
from talking with players and
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talking with him and, and even
Brent Pry, I, I think my feel is
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that Cfkis has a very good
understanding for this group's
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personnel and how to use them
and how to put them in the right
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situations.
And I don't think you would say
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that about the previous
defensive coordinator.
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And I think that is an immediate
uptick, an immediate boost.
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Virginia Tech might not have as
much talent, might not have a
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necessarily an APR last like
last season or a Dorian Strong
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or a Monsoor Delaine, but I
think Tech has more safety
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depth.
I think the defensive line,
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there's a lot of really talented
guys and and a bit of depth.
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I think the linebacker coaching
is better and Sheldon to go back
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to Sifkis.
I think his ability to really
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get the most out of this group
is what is going to make it is
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what is going to take this
defense I think to potentially a
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new level.
Like, I don't think Chris Maher
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was able to kind of squeeze the
most juice out of this group,
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even though he had a lot of
talent.
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I think Seifkis will do that.
Danny, what about you?
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What?
What excites you the most?
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Yeah.
And, and to sort of piggyback
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off of what David was saying,
it's, it's just going to be so
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crucial, especially at the
beginning of the season and
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particularly in this kickoff
game against South Carolina, to
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adapt to what they're going to
do, game plan for what South
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Carolina's going to bring out
there.
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Because Lenore Sellers is the
type of player that would give
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Virginia Tech fits even if Bud
Foster was still around.
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I mean, those mobile
quarterbacks are, are for any
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defensive coordinator.
It doesn't matter if you're Bud
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Foster or or Brent Venables back
when he was still with Clemson.
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Those guys are hard to game plan
for.
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So the ability to adapt and, and
not just to to game plan, but to
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also make adjustments within the
game.
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They're they're going to have to
be able to do that on the
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offensive side of the ball too.
And I think that's one of the
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the not well, the former
coaching staff because they're
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starting with two the a new
offensive and defensive
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coordinator.
But one of the things that they
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were not always good at was
making in game adjustments.
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And that's something that that
they're also going to, I think
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be better positioned to do with
Steve Kiss there at defensive
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coordinator.
It, it certainly can't get a
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whole lot worse.
But I, I, I heard someone say
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the other day that they're, they
think that the linebackers of
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this group could sort of
surprise some people.
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And I, I definitely think that
that's true.
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Guys like Jaden Keller can could
make an impact on that side of
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the ball from that, from that
position from wherever they
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decide to put him on the field.
But again, it's going to start
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up front similar to to the
offensive line, right?
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The defensive line, that's where
the, the they'll be able to, you
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know, get some things going for
sure.
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All right, now Mike McDaniel,
otherwise known as Mid major
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Mike by some, some people think
that Sam Sidkis is also a mid
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major defensive coordinator.
What would you say to the haters
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who are are skeptical of
disability and what excites you
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about the defense, Mike?
Pry hired Chris Marv as a guy
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who struggled recruiting at
Florida State and was a middle
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of the road.
So I would call him mid
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linebackers coach, right?
And you had him be your defense
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coordinator, the way I look at
it, right, hiring CMC KISS from
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the NFL and the experience, the
guys he coached under, what they
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were saying about him when he
was hired, you know, those
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coaches that worked with him at
the professional level.
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I don't see how this goes worse
than it did the first three
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years.
I don't I don't see it right and
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if it does go worse, probably
only gain one year of it just
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considering the where we're at
in the tenure for pry anyway, if
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this defense ends up being
really bad, I am really excited.
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Like Danny and David both just
said, I'm really excited to see
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if this defense is able to be
flexible, right?
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Are you able to change
personnel?
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They brought in literally a
million safeties.
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They, they brought in so many
different guys in the secondary.
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You know, Seekers is talking
about this being multiple.
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You know, do they run 425?
OK, if they do that, maybe that
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makes a lot of sense, right?
Because you bring in all the
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safeties, you brought in all the
cornerback depth, you bring in
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more depth on the defensive
line.
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Young guys are going to
contribute.
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I'm really excited about Kamari
Copeland.
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He seems like he's finally
healthy.
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Is he going to, you know,
finally step up and be the guy
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that we want him to be?
He could be kind of an X Factor
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up front.
Obviously there's Calvin
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Gilliam.
There is some experience on the
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defensive line still, even
though you'd lose a guy like
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APR, can you try to replace him
in the aggregate, right?
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Can you find a way to have some
of these young guys step up and
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and contribute in a meaningful
way?
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Danny brought up Jaden Keller.
He's one of the important guys
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on the defense.
I think because of how the highs
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have been so good with him and
the lows have been so low.
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If we get an improvement at
linebacker with Xavier Adibi as
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the linebackers coach, if we get
an improvement there, that's
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almost a bigger deal to me,
right, Is, you know, Cifkis
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coming in.
I'm hoping with ADB, the
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linebackers are just coached
better because I think the
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defense was so up and down.
David and I talked about this on
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my podcast, but the defense was
so up and down last year.
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The one thing that stood out was
how poorly the linebackers
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played at times, and that was
obviously a position that Marv
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coached.
I'm really hoping that the
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linebackers take a huge step
forward.
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I think that would really help
this defense because I think
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when Tech's been at its best in
the first three years
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defensively under prize.
But because the linebackers
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played well, right, they're
filling the right gaps.
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There's no questions about what
they should be doing.
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When they've been kind of caught
flat footed, that's when
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everything's kind of gone to
hell defensively.
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I think back to the Syracuse
game last year was a total
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disaster with the linebackers.
So I'm just hoping the
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linebacker plays a lot better.
And I think with the Seifkis and
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ADB, the ADB addition, I'm I'm
really hoping that things are
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trending in a better direction
there.
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Good stuff.
Yeah, it should be noted Mid
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Major Mike was a facetious
comment, but to the point about
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Seifkas being at Wofford, I will
say there is a a very strong
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legacy of Wofford coaches coming
to Vt and having success.
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So I'm hoping we can keep that
Spartanburg pipeline going
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strong here.
This we know.
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Yeah.
Well, Mike kind of, you know,
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hit on some things that we were
looking at talking about anyway.
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So we talked about linebackers,
which is going to be very
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important, you know, this year.
But also, even when Brett Pratt
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was hired, you know, with him
being a defensive coach and
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being in love with Michael
Parsons, you know, linebacker
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and stuff like that, we expect
to see certain linebacker play.
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So I'll ask you guys kind of, we
know that Woodson is a lot for
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the most part from what I think
who else is going to be kind of
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a starter that you guys would be
looking at on that unit when
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we're talking about linebackers
this?
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Process if y'all you were there,
David, I heard your voice, he
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said.
There's still a battle at inside
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and and everybody on this panel
knows Caleb Woodson is starting
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the man's captain and the man's
unbelievable last year.
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Yeah, well, first of all, I
think Caleb Woodson can be one
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of the best defensive players on
this team.
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Like, I don't, I mean, he's a
he's AI believe they named him.
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They named him a team captain
today for a reason, like, or
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this weekend for a reason.
You know, he's the real deal.
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00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320
Jaden Keller, It's really, does
the light come on?
445
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,720
As Mike McDaniel said, does the
light come on for Jaden Keller?
446
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,840
That's the big question.
The two guys behind him are are
447
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,400
are competing for those spots.
Antoine Santiago, he's the
448
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Temple transfer and Michael
Short, the North Carolina
449
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
transfer.
They're two guys who are very
450
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:47,200
solid who have some experience
yet to be seen if they're
451
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,400
actually going to start.
But I think for a while, Tech
452
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920
will at least to start.
Tech will will feel pretty
453
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160
confident about putting those
guys in.
454
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920
But I think it's really Keller's
spot to lose.
455
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,440
He's the incumbent.
He's the guy who was here the
456
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560
entire spring.
Those two guys didn't come until
457
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,400
a little bit more towards the
summer.
458
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,160
It's can he can he get better
with Xavier DB as his head
459
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,480
coach?
I think he can.
460
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,200
But I do think you'll see a
pretty solid rotation with short
461
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
and and Santiago in there as
well.
462
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Also, you know, Caleb Wooden's
going to need breaks eventually.
463
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,600
And then the other name in the
in the linebacker room I'd keep
464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:34,520
an eye on is Noah Chambers.
He's the the the Maryland kid
465
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,880
from Damantha.
I don't know that he would he'll
466
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080
play this year, but he's a guy
who has made some plays in
467
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400
practice.
He there was a pass rushing
468
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,840
drill where he absolutely blew
up a line, a running back and
469
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,480
knocked him into Elijah Brooks,
the running backs coach.
470
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,240
Again, I don't know if he'll
play this year, but they I think
471
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
I feel better about the
linebackers than I have in the
472
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,080
last couple years.
And it's funny, somebody just
473
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,680
asked about about Chambers.
I don't know if he'll, he's very
474
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,880
young.
He might need to put on some
475
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,960
weight red shirt, as my
colleague Chris Coleman would
476
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760
say.
But I think I think the
477
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
linebackers are more
well-rounded and there's more
478
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,840
depth this year.
I think there's also this theme
479
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080
with Tech just all over the
field where they've been
480
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,520
consistently inconsistent over
the first three years of Brent
481
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,640
Prize era.
And and for a guy like Jaden
482
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Keller, who we've already talked
a good bit about, if you're
483
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,360
specifically looking that
linebacker position, him needing
484
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,360
to be consistent is going to be
tremendously important this
485
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,080
season.
And, and David mentioned the
486
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,720
position battle he's sort of in
right now.
487
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
I think if he loses that
position battle, you're in a
488
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480
little bit of trouble.
And, and hopefully in that
489
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400
scenario, it's more about the
guys behind him playing well
490
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,120
than it would be about Keller
struggling.
491
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,840
Because I think in, in reality,
you're going to see all of them
492
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,720
on the field and you're going to
need all of them on the field
493
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,400
at, at different points
throughout the season.
494
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,440
There's going to get guys that
are going to get banged up.
495
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240
There's, there's going to be
different packages for different
496
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680
guys get on the field for a
different time during the game
497
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,960
depending on the scenario.
So I, I just, I look at him and,
498
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,120
and it's already been said, the
highest of highs, the lowest of
499
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,760
lows.
Those high highs, though, sure
500
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,680
are sweet.
And the guy, he looks like a
501
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,160
ball hawk.
He he can fly over the all over
502
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,080
the field when, when he's, he's
mentally prepared to do so.
503
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,440
So I, I just, it's hard for me
to take my eyes off of him and,
504
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,040
and what Keller can do this
year.
505
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Well, let me you know.
I agree with what Danny says,
506
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000
but for the most part, but
whenever you start looking at
507
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200
stuff, I mean, no, I, I wasn't
saying that to be, you know,
508
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,040
crazy, But I'm just saying like
when you start to look at like
509
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,280
players who have been at a
school a while, you know, or
510
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,760
even captain or you know, who
goes and talks to the media or
511
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720
who goes the media day, things
like that.
512
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,640
Sometimes that just doesn't have
to do with what's going on on
513
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
the field.
So when I look at somebody like
514
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Jaden, Jaden Keller, I hope he
takes another step.
515
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,200
But you know what I say I'm
agreeing with Danny on is I hope
516
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,880
that there are people behind him
just pushing it or you know that
517
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240
with some of the transfers
that's coming in young guys,
518
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,520
'cause I just want a coaching
staff that leaves it all on the
519
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,160
field.
Like, stop worrying about the
520
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600
next GameStop, worrying about
next year.
521
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,120
Let's try some.
Put somebody else in.
522
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320
If you're not doing your job,
Monster Delane, you can't
523
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040
fucking make a tackle.
Come stand over here by me and
524
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,160
let's drink some water.
I don't care how much you're
525
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,120
getting paid in NIL.
I don't care if LSU wants you.
526
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,200
You know, you can't get Cam Ward
on the ground.
527
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560
You can't get Club Nick Dubnick,
whatever his name is on the
528
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,920
ground.
Come over here and let's hang
529
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,240
out and talk for a little bit.
Let's talk about your next
530
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,120
school.
I just want a a coaching staff
531
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
that will take a chance and be
like who's over here on the
532
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,960
sideline?
Hey, you've been practicing.
533
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,920
OK, let's try you because I
watched the offensive line.
534
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280
That was horrible.
There is no way that there was
535
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,000
not somebody on the offensive on
the side of the field that could
536
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360
go in and give you 2 plays while
you bring somebody to the side
537
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,960
and say you ain't fucking
blocking.
538
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Change your shoes.
Your shoes are stuck in the
539
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240
ground.
Put some different shoes on.
540
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
There's a reason why the
offensive line coach was fired.
541
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Oh my God.
I mean, just so no, I mean that
542
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Danny was, you know, spot on
with the things he was saying.
543
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240
I just thought about that when
he was saying it, and I was
544
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,280
like, no disrespect to Killer,
but I've seen him and I hope
545
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,720
that he miraculously comes out
and, like, just blows it up this
546
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,240
year.
Right.
547
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,040
But at a certain.
Yeah.
548
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880
But at a certain level, it's
like, are we really going to
549
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880
see, like, once you've been
seeing a guy for so long, it's
550
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,600
like, is that really him?
You know what I'm saying?
551
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320
I seen Parker and I knew what to
expect of him.
552
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,520
And I kept and I kept going, You
know, man, maybe he's going to.
553
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,440
He didn't take.
Yeah.
554
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840
He took a step backwards on the
quarterback's foot.
555
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
That's what he needed.
So it's.
556
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Just got to to your point, the
only thing that I say from a
557
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,320
positive standpoint on Keller
still being the guys that it's
558
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,360
never been about his physical
attributes and his ability it's.
559
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,320
And his highs are really high,
like up here.
560
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440
And he said yeah.
It's between the ears.
561
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400
So if he can put the between the
ears part together, then you
562
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240
might have something.
So yeah, I I think that's the
563
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600
one saving grace of Keller still
being in this conversation is
564
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960
that if that mental piece does
come into play, you're not
565
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,800
worried about him from a
physical standpoint.
566
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000
What I do like, go ahead, go
ahead.
567
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
No, go ahead, Tyler I.
Was just going to say what I do
568
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,280
like too, is that we went out
and recruited some linebackers.
569
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,120
Like if y'all think a lot of
times some of the linebackers
570
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,200
that we've had, you know,
converted safeties, converted
571
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960
wide receivers.
No disrespect to Lawson, but
572
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,720
I've seen him get turned into a
werewolf.
573
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120
He got stiff armed and started
running like a werewolf.
574
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,360
I don't want to see that.
Brunfield was cool.
575
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,960
They said he was really smart.
He also looked really small when
576
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280
he was in there.
He didn't he couldn't bring no
577
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600
ass to a hole.
So pause.
578
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Anyway, I need some people that
can hit, you know what I'm
579
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,040
saying?
Like I need some people that
580
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,000
look like Caleb Woodson, that
can go downhill and hit, you
581
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,360
know, I seen Q Reddish come up
again, so I think it was
582
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Stanford.
Who like he was a true freshman
583
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,280
last year and I was like, that's
probably the best Taco I've seen
584
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
out of this team all year.
So just things like that, man,
585
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,800
just like when you really get
back into it, like now it's
586
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,360
about to be football season.
This is stuff that's just been
587
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120
in the back of my mind that I
haven't thought about and now
588
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,080
that I'm going down and be like,
Oh, they brought this guy in.
589
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Oh, they brought this guy in.
Stop bringing people in and not
590
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880
playing them.
You know, I'm I'm just hoping
591
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840
give give him a chance.
You know, Cunningham should have
592
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,440
had a chance.
He may not be.
593
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
He may be garbage.
You know, I don't think he is,
594
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840
but I'm just saying he may be,
but he couldn't have been no
595
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,200
worse than what we seen last
year.
596
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
So if you're coaching on the
sidelines, like give somebody
597
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
else a chance if it ain't
getting it done.
598
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,920
But but I'm sorry, I didn't
mean.
599
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,040
Mike got us into this so I won't
let Mike finish his out.
600
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Mike tally ass, who's going to
be in there?
601
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Inside linebacker you brought
up.
602
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200
I think you bringing up Keller
set him off.
603
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Danny got it worse, so you got
to pull it down so we can move
604
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
on.
I think I brought him up first,
605
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,040
didn't I?
Kind of.
606
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,680
It was Danny's fault.
You know the build.
607
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,640
It was build slow build.
It was a yeah, it was a slow
608
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000
build.
I'm really hoping that Keller
609
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720
has not hit his ceiling.
I'm, I'm where everybody else is
610
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
at.
I hope Keller's the guy because
611
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760
I hope he's put it all together
between the ears, like Brian
612
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
just said, Like that's my,
that's my thing.
613
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,760
He's been really, he's been
really good.
614
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280
He's been really bad.
But it's like, like Brian also
615
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,040
mentioned, it's never been a
physical thing, right?
616
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,640
So, no, we'll, we'll see.
I, I would prefer to have a guy
617
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,000
with experience in the middle of
the defense, You know, I, I
618
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,200
would prefer not to be relying
on freshmen, sophomores in the
619
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,680
middle of the defense if we can
avoid it.
620
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080
So.
Understood on that and you know,
621
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,720
I think bringing in the two
transfers was the big piece
622
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,440
there because they have
significant stamps.
623
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
They play at collegiate speed on
both sides.
624
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
So we'll see what happens there.
All right, I'm going to put you
625
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080
on the Wayback machine because
this is going to scare you all
626
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080
three.
Well, Danny, probably more so
627
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,720
you because it's going to make
you realize something.
628
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,920
A deep breath.
The Hokies have not had a 1000
629
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,080
yard receiver since 2016.
First of all, go ahead cry
630
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Isaiah Ford.
Well we have not even been close
631
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,840
since 2018.
Can anybody name who that was
632
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600
2018?
Was it Damon Hazleton?
633
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Damon Hazleton.
Hazleton.
634
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Was like 890 something.
So with that being said and it
635
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
y'all been playing attention,
which I know y'all do and I did
636
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,040
the research last week.
Montgomery a shit ton 1000 yard.
637
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Wide receivers.
He's had a bunch who
638
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
exceptionally close to 1000
yards.
639
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,199
So I'll, I'll pitch it to you,
Danny Noakes.
640
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,480
If, if, if this were to happen
this year, pull up your roster
641
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
list.
Who do you think could get 1000
642
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,800
yards in this offense this year?
Well, I think, I think Donovan
643
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Green is probably where that
conversation starts just as a
644
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,920
guy that that comes over from
Wake Forest and was a a starter
645
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,199
for them, but he was, I believe
he was the top ranked Wake
646
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,400
Forest recruit in their
program's history at when he
647
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,360
went to when he became a Demon
Deacon.
648
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
So Donovan Green is someone that
that comes over highly touted
649
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
and with experience and and now
he's a a grad student here at,
650
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360
at in Blacksburg.
And I feel like it's an an
651
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,040
opportunity for him to really
cut it loose.
652
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
You know, he's going to get to
play with Kyron drones.
653
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
So we all know talk about a guy
with a really high ceiling
654
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,280
drones when he's on it sure is a
lot of fun to watch.
655
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,720
And and green just seems like a
guy you know, saw he's built
656
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,200
well.
He he he's had some injury
657
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,840
problems, though, right, He's
had some injury issues
658
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000
throughout his career.
So, you know, can he stay
659
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,840
healthy?
But that's a guy that if he
660
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,760
doesn't come through or he gets
hurt, it's, it's I, I don't
661
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
think that there's any shot that
anybody else has hitting 1000
662
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200
yards on that, on that, in that
wide receiver room.
663
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880
David.
I mean, I, I think Danny hit the
664
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760
nail on the head.
Donovan Green is definitely, I
665
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,800
think the most explosive guy in
that room.
666
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,880
And right now in, in preseason
camp, you know, we've seen
667
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Chan's Wiggins is banged up from
Price said earlier today that it
668
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,000
doesn't look like he's going to
be available for the opener
669
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,280
against South Carolina.
Keelan Adams has been banged up
670
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,120
to Kai Heath has been banged up.
I I think a lot of that stuff is
671
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,840
very minor.
Not to worry anybody.
672
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,320
I think a lot of that stuff is
very minor.
673
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,520
But those guys have to stay
healthy.
674
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,720
And the guy Jenny just
mentioned, he's been great when
675
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,000
he's healthy.
If he's not, you know, that's a
676
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,320
problem.
One of the guys that I think
677
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,760
Tech is going to rely heavily on
this year is Isaiah Spencer,
678
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,280
transfers in from Jackson State.
I believe he he was a terrific
679
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200
receiver at the FCS level.
He's got a little bit of
680
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
versatility, can play inside,
can play out.
681
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,720
And I think, you know, maybe he
doesn't necessarily have the
682
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,520
rapport with Kyron drones that
he he does right now because he
683
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,320
came in so late over the summer.
He wasn't here for the spring.
684
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600
And also Kyron, you know, didn't
practice a ton in the spring.
685
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,120
But I think Isaiah Spencer's a
guy who nobody's really talking
686
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,520
about because he he's AFCS
transfer, but I think he's a guy
687
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,720
that he could have a really big
breakout year.
688
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800
I'm not sure he can hit 1000.
And I don't know that there are
689
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,600
many guys that can.
I think it'll be a group effort.
690
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,960
But I think Isaiah Spencer's a
guy who could potentially have a
691
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,360
big breakout year.
And, you know, you've seen the
692
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,800
way that I think back to last
year, the way the Hokies used a
693
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
guy like Jalen Lane should have
used him more.
694
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,320
As we talked about earlier.
I think Isaiah Spencer can be a
695
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120
guy like that, that you just get
the ball in his hands.
696
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,240
He's very shifty.
He's very, very quick.
697
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,480
And there's there's another
obvious answer in the room,
698
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
which is maybe where Mike might
go.
699
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,440
But I think Isaiah Spencer can
be a breakout guy.
700
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,320
Yeah, my answer was going to be
Donovan Green too.
701
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640
But in the essence of just kind
of being different.
702
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,240
I am just really intrigued by
Cam Selden.
703
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Like I'm really hoping he he
steps up and he can be a guy who
704
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,040
can contribute.
I don't know if he'll be 1000
705
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,120
yard receiver, but we've heard
too many good things about him,
706
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,760
right?
Like gorgeous or raving about
707
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,200
him.
I hope he can step in and be the
708
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,840
guy that everybody is talking
about, right?
709
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,240
He can put together on the field
for purposes of 1000 yard
710
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,720
receiver conversation.
My answer was Green.
711
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,680
Just because of the experience,
the fact that he's got, you
712
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,120
know, like over 100 career
receptions, he's got like 1800
713
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,840
yards receiving.
So when he's healthy, he's
714
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,360
proven that he can be a really
steady presence on the offense.
715
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840
And I think Virginia Tech's
going to need somebody to be
716
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200
really steady in that receiving
room.
717
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040
It's a lot of like 6162 a 180 LB
guys.
718
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560
It's not surprising me that
there's a bunch of injury issues
719
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,360
already.
That is something I'm really
720
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,280
concerned about.
Cam Selden kind of bucks that
721
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000
trend a little bit.
So I mean that's something to be
722
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,040
a little bit encouraged about.
He's stockier receiver that I
723
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680
think can go over the middle,
catch a pass.
724
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560
You're not worried about him not
getting up.
725
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640
I'm really concerned about that
with several of the receivers.
726
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,480
I think I'm going to play
significant snaps this year.
727
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,760
So are these guys ready in this
offense?
728
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,680
We'll see kind of what it looks
like the Philip Montgomery
729
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,840
offense to the past if it's been
a lot of a lot of crossing
730
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,520
routes, a lot of shifty
receivers, kind of in the mold
731
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,360
of what Virginia Tech's got in
their receiving room, running
732
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,880
routes over the middle of the
field.
733
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,120
And Tyron drones, I love them.
He's thrown a hospital ball or
734
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,240
two.
I'm a little concerned about
735
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,720
this receiving group man.
I'm I'm really concerned about
736
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,440
them all staying healthy.
And then the guys that are
737
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680
healthy, who's going to be able
to contribute to be the most
738
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,320
consistent.
So I'm hoping for a big year for
739
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,280
Donovan Green 'cause if it's not
going to be him, who is it going
740
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,600
to be?
I know everybody's looking at
741
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Aidan Green.
It's like wide receiver one if
742
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,000
it's not going to be Donovan
Green.
743
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,360
The thing about Aidan Green is
like, is he wide receiver one
744
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,400
just because we kind of need him
to be like, is this kind of like
745
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,160
how Caleb Smith was and you're 1
of pry where it's like, are we
746
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,240
really sure he's ready to take
that next step?
747
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Obviously, I think Aidan Green
is a better player in Caleb
748
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640
Smith and I don't want to sit
here and slander Caleb Smith on
749
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,960
this podcast, but that's just
kind of like the receiving
750
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,320
group.
That's kind of those are the
751
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,760
types of concerns I have.
It's like, is this guy the wide
752
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,480
receiver one by default?
Like we'll see.
753
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,000
So big, big questions with the
past catchers in my mind.
754
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Yeah, I mean, you, you talk
about Aiden Green there.
755
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
And I think the the weird thing
that we're looking at is, you
756
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,000
know, I think someone said on
Twitter the other day it was
757
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,720
like, well, we're talking about
the youth in the wide receiver
758
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,080
room.
And it's really, it's not really
759
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,320
youth like most of these guys
are at least red shirts
760
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,520
sophomores or older, but not
very many of them have played
761
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
significant snaps, especially
for the Hokies.
762
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480
So it's more of that experience
and that experience with this
763
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160
unit than necessarily it is an
age thing.
764
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000
So it's going to be interesting
to see how that shakes out.
765
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Sheldon, I'll let you kick the
next one out to these these
766
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,760
gentlemen.
Yeah, we're talking Philip
767
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,720
Montgomery now.
James, you guys know all of us,
768
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,160
the coordinators get all sorts
of criticism, rightly or
769
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,880
wrongly.
And obviously we don't need to
770
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,880
re litigate all of the discourse
around Tyler Bone, who's now
771
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,080
moved on to Ohio State.
But you know, between play
772
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,160
selection, personnel usage, the
passing game, quarterback play,
773
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,120
what what element of the offense
do you feel like Montgomery can
774
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,840
really come in and kind of clean
up in comparison to last year?
775
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,280
Let's start with Mike and then
work our way left to right.
776
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200
I'm hoping it's not the same
game plan every single game.
777
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Feel like we've seen that a lot
with the recent offensive
778
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,280
coordinators, not just Bowen.
So I'm hoping that there is at
779
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
least something different we can
show the opposing team every
780
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,160
week.
I think there are enough
781
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000
playmakers and there are enough.
I mean, I just talked about the
782
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,880
questions with the receiver.
There's all different types of
783
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,760
running backs that Virginia Tech
can run out there too, right, In
784
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
terms of what they're able to do
and their skill sets.
785
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,000
I'm hoping that the running game
looks a little bit different.
786
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
So I think it's going to have to
be without Tooting in the
787
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
backfield.
Obviously losing a bell cow back
788
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,760
like that, I think you're going
to have to get a little bit more
789
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480
creative.
I really like the guys they
790
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,760
brought in at running back, but
it is going to look different
791
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,680
this year, right?
I would prefer, and I know that
792
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
the running element of drones
game is so crucially important
793
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,800
to what he's able to do and
without his legs, right, If he's
794
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,480
confined to the pocket, that's
not really who he is, even
795
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,920
though I do think when healthy,
he's really developed into a
796
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,880
fine pocket passer when he's
needed to be.
797
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,040
So I would prefer if they don't
run drones into the ground.
798
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800
And I think they have so many
running backs that they can kind
799
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840
of take the onus off of him.
But the biggest thing I'm
800
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440
looking for, it was a lot like
we've just talked about with CF
801
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Kiss on the defensive side,
flexibility in the game plan, so
802
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,640
many new faces, a lot of guys
that I think the Tech coaching
803
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,360
staff feels good about in the
receiving core, even if I don't
804
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,720
particularly feel good about
things there, they seem to, at
805
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:37,880
least that's what they're
saying.
806
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,680
And I I do feel good about the
running back room though.
807
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,800
And I think if you get anything
out of the offensive line this
808
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360
year, any sort of steps forward
and improvement and you can be a
809
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,840
bit more flexible in the game
plan.
810
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,920
I think that's really what I'm
looking for in terms of what
811
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Montgomery can bring to the
table.
812
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160
It's, it's a very broad answer,
but I think he's going to bring
813
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,200
more consistency.
And by that, I mean, kind of
814
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,680
going off what Mike said, Tyler
Bowen, it felt like early in the
815
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,960
year he did not get the game
plan right.
816
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,320
It took him a couple weeks to
get the game plan right.
817
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
And then he was hit or miss.
And you talk about, you talk
818
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,800
about a a game plan he got
right.
819
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,560
You look back at that Syracuse
game last year where Virginia
820
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Tech was starting Colin Schlee
and two backup running backs and
821
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,800
Malathai Thomas and Jeremiah
Kony and had a sizable lead and
822
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
put up terrific numbers before
things went downhill in the
823
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000
second-half.
It was the opposite the next
824
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
week where Kyron Drones and
Bashel Tooten should not have
825
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,800
played hurt against Clemson.
They didn't give a running back
826
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,120
outside of Tooten a a touch.
And it's like, what so and and
827
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,440
that was Clemson's worst rushing
defense in like 30 years.
828
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,400
So it's, it was just, it was
like sometimes Tyler Bone was on
829
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,680
and sometimes he was off.
And I think Phillip Montgomery,
830
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,720
he's so experienced.
You look at his last stop was at
831
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,680
Auburn.
And it's so funny because if
832
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,840
anybody reads anything about
Hugh Freeze and the way he kind
833
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,080
of runs his program, he's very
hands on and wants to do
834
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560
everything himself and doesn't
like he hires an offensive
835
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,160
coordinator and doesn't let the
guy coordinate.
836
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,520
I think Bill Montgomery has the
keys to kind of do whatever he
837
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,640
wants.
And I my thought is that unlike
838
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Tyler Bowen to what Shelton
asked, I think Philip Montgomery
839
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,080
knows exactly once what he wants
to do from Week 1.
840
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Like he comes out there with a
game plan and goes, this is how
841
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
we're going to play.
It's not hey, we're going to try
842
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
to figure it out.
It's hey, we've got a concept,
843
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,480
we've got a game plan.
I think he's he's got the
844
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,360
opportunity to really put text
best foot forward from the
845
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,880
beginning and kind of like
Cephus use the guys to the best
846
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,880
of their ability.
We were talking earlier about
847
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040
getting Jalen Lane touches.
He like there were so many
848
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,280
weapons on last year's team that
probably should have gotten the
849
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,280
ball more.
You got to figure out who those
850
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,200
guys are this year and get them
the ball.
851
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Like that's college football
nowadays.
852
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,960
That's football period.
Get the ball in your best
853
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,920
players hands and if it happens
to be a Cam Selden, if it
854
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,680
happens to be a Tucker Holloway
on a reverse right, if it
855
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,280
happens to be a Marcellus
Hawkins or a brave inventor,
856
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,960
you've got to get them the ball.
That's the bottom line.
857
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,840
I think that you will see an
immediate improvement in exactly
858
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,800
what David is talking about in
the ability to recognize who
859
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,680
needs to get the ball 'cause it
might change from game to game,
860
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,920
right?
We talk about having a different
861
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,840
game plan going depending on who
the opponent is.
862
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,200
I think Montgomery with his
experience will be able to much
863
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,800
more easily recognize who needs
the touches in that game to to
864
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,120
effectively attack a defense.
We talked about consistency,
865
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,800
talked about in game
adjustments.
866
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,600
I, I similar to what we were
talking about on the defense
867
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,320
side of the ball.
I don't see how it can get much
868
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,960
worse from from that standpoint.
And on the offensive side of the
869
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,520
ball, there was no consistency
and there were often times not
870
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,800
great in game adjustments,
right.
871
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Two more things that I would say
about Montgomery coming in is I
872
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,920
would hope that with that
experience in the passing game,
873
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,960
you can find a way to to ski
Donovan Green or Aiden Green
874
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000
open hit on some of those big
plays.
875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
They don't have to be
touchdowns, but open the defense
876
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120
up a little bit because then
that gives your running backs a
877
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,960
chance to to get it going.
It's usually establish the run,
878
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,440
then go over the top.
It's going to depend on who the
879
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,640
opponent is.
It's going to depend on where
880
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,280
you can attack a defense.
And I I have hurdle it.
881
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,400
It sounds like Brent Pry and and
this staff is high on Marcellus
882
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,720
Hawkins in the backfield.
It really sounds like they
883
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,200
really like him.
He's going to get a lot of
884
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680
touches, whether it's him or
Braden Bennett who comes over
885
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,560
from Coastal Carolina, who's
really exciting and the bowling
886
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,880
ball, Terry on Stewart, who has
been missing some time as we
887
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
understand it recently has it
didn't practice today.
888
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,880
All three of those guys can
contribute on on the offense.
889
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,560
So when you factor in a dual
threat like Kyron, you know
890
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,800
there are some tools there for
them to to make some explosive
891
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,120
plays this year, more than we
saw last year, which when you
892
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,120
when you had drones Tooting and
Lane not being able to take
893
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,120
advantage of those guys as as
often as they should have was
894
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,280
was really disappointing.
I think that'll change this
895
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360
year.
Yeah, you talk about like
896
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,720
getting guys the football and
riding the hot hand.
897
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,040
Let's let's think back a little
bit.
898
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Let's think to I'll go even back
further, let's go pit in 2016
899
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,560
when we just kept throwing those
fades to as they afford like
900
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,280
riding the hot hand when when
something's working, just go
901
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,920
back to the well having the feel
of that.
902
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,000
We want to see that a little bit
more, not not being so rigid to
903
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,320
what the game plan is and being
able to adapt on the fly and and
904
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,160
be able to ride that hot hand.
I mean, I I played, I played
905
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,680
offensive line in him and
Sydney, my head coach was also
906
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,800
our offensive coordinator and he
did not play collegiate
907
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200
football.
He was a basketball guy, but he
908
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,080
understood playmakers and how to
get playmakers the ball, and
909
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,280
that's what it's all about.
Just don't do dumb shit.
910
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,480
That's all I asked for.
I mean, it's not that hard.
911
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:23,680
Just don't do dumb shit.
Just don't do dumb shit is what
912
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960
we was doing.
We was wasting plays.
913
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,320
We was putting Colin Schlee in
to like run motion.
914
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,440
Listen, so you take somebody off
of the field. 11 months.
915
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Yeah, you never, Yeah, you
never.
916
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,160
You never build off of that, you
know what I'm saying?
917
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,160
It's just wasted plays, like you
got to do something in the year.
918
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,680
You got to throw like a double
reverse pass or something off of
919
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,240
that plate if you're going to
continue doing it at the
920
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:52,000
beginning of the game or the
beginning of the the year.
921
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Because when you think back to
last year, like even when we
922
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,560
talk about Clemson, and I don't
want to go all into that, but
923
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,040
when you talk about like a game
like Clemson, like we, I watched
924
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,080
it again for some reason and we
lost it 24 to 14.
925
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
And I think they were like 23rd
in the in the nation or
926
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280
something.
And we ran the ball like one
927
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,320
time or two times that game.
No running backs hurt,
928
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,240
quarterbacks hurt.
I get it.
929
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,720
Injuries happen.
But but I, I don't know, man, I
930
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:27,160
just, I think that you can't do
any for as close as we were to
931
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,360
win.
And I really don't think you can
932
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,600
do worse as a collective
coaching staff as we did last
933
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,440
year.
That's just how I feel.
934
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,120
We did a lot of dumb shit, like
we didn't use people that we
935
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960
should have used.
We run plays.
936
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,120
What what do you say?
How many field?
937
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Yeah.
Oh, we need to limit it.
938
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,680
So anyway, I'm I'm going to go,
I'm going to get off my
939
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,120
soapboxing and go to the next
thing because somebody was
940
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,480
bringing up a couple of, you
know, playmakers and we think
941
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,000
about, you know, Kyron being a
playmaker, but also the
942
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,360
offensive line.
Who else do you guys think that
943
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,320
we need to have a big year that
will fuel the the hokey success
944
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400
besides Kyron or the offensive
line?
945
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Who wants to start?
I just put it out there because
946
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,800
I know that's going to be hard,
so I was hoping somebody would
947
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,560
be brave.
I'll.
948
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Go.
Yeah, You go ahead, Mike, You go
949
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,880
ahead.
I was just going to say, I think
950
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,880
the three, the three running
backs you mentioned, Danny, I
951
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,080
think collectively we need them
to be like at least a full
952
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,840
tooten.
Exactly.
953
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Right.
Or a little bit more than that,
954
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,760
considering there's three guys
there, right?
955
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Obviously not the best news that
Terry on Stewart hasn't been
956
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,480
practicing.
Hopefully that's temporary and
957
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,240
we can see him back on the field
soon.
958
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,320
He'll be ready for the opener.
But we need those three guys you
959
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,040
mentioned, Danny Bennett,
Hawkins and Stewart.
960
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,280
We need them to be able to
replace the production of base
961
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,240
Holtuton that.
That's what Virginia Tech needs
962
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:14,200
in the running game, 1000% And
that's why you brought these
963
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,160
guys in, and that's why you
brought in so many of them, and
964
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,000
that's why you kept Jeremiah
Coney around.
965
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Like you have depth at running
back.
966
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,760
We need to use it.
We have to find the right
967
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,360
combination that.
That's just extraordinarily
968
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,960
crucial in my opinion.
Yeah, and I think it I think it
969
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
goes back to something I said
earlier in the broadcast,
970
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,920
gentleman, which is that for
Tech to to be as successful as
971
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
it is they can be this year with
this roster.
972
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,040
I think it on offense, it is
going to start with the running
973
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,280
game and, and to to, to really
play good defense, obviously,
974
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,520
but control the clock and find a
way to get one of these guys in
975
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,600
the rhythm.
If it's Hawkins, feed them,
976
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,200
right.
They've been talking a lot about
977
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Hawkins in the offseason.
Well, if he's the guy, then feed
978
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,880
him.
If it's Bennett, who's got a lot
979
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,560
of experience coming over from
coast of Carolina, give him the
980
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,920
ball.
If if it's a if it's a cold day
981
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,320
in November in Blacksburg
against Louisville, November 1st
982
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,880
and you got to ride Terry on
Stewart to the promised land,
983
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,360
then do it.
You know, and and the offensive
984
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,360
line obviously is going to have
a a major role to play in that
985
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,400
success as well as will Kyron
drones, because Kyron drones is
986
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
a very capable runner.
But as Mike said, you got to be
987
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,240
careful not to overwork him and,
and get him into a situation
988
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,200
where he, he's getting dinged up
because when he gets dinged up,
989
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,280
he's just not the same guy.
We saw that last year.
990
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,640
So I, I, I really have been
harping on the running game.
991
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,640
It would be nice to see someone
like Donovan Green.
992
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,480
I saw one of our, one of our
listeners also threw Benji
993
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Gosnell in there, which I, I
love as a pic as well, because,
994
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,760
you know, I think he's going to,
he's going to have to come up
995
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,000
with some really big catches,
maybe on 3rd down in the red
996
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,920
zone, wherever it is, they're
going to rely on him too.
997
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
He's got some experience, but I
think it all starts with the
998
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,720
running game for the offense.
This is what I'm going to throw
999
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:57,120
in.
This is what I'm going to throw
1000
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
in as well, guys, because
everything I was saying is
1001
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,480
really good.
And I think Curtis may have said
1002
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,840
it earlier when you just talked
about going back into a, you
1003
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,400
know, Virginia Tech style
football team.
1004
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Maybe it was Curtis or Mike, but
whatever.
1005
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,320
You know, sometimes you just are
who you are.
1006
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,960
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying that we're going
1007
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,680
to have this high-powered pass
an offense that's going to be,
1008
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
you know, rivaled organ or
somebody like that.
1009
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,600
I'm not saying that.
But what I do know is that we
1010
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,120
are not a strong enough team to
just run the ball down people's
1011
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,400
throats.
I just don't think that we will
1012
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,560
ever be that.
So we have to be capable enough
1013
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,400
to get some motherfuckers off
the line.
1014
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,960
We have to be able to push the
ball down the field, whether
1015
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,480
that's using 10 wide receivers
to catch, you know, a pass each,
1016
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
just to do something different
to get people off of the line so
1017
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,600
we can run the ball.
They have those receivers.
1018
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,920
I challenge everybody who
watches this show.
1019
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,720
If you're a Virginia Tech fan,
pick one game a season and waste
1020
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:12,000
your money.
Just go watch that game.
1021
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,720
Go sit in the stands and just
look at stuff that the camera
1022
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:20,200
doesn't show because I I'm being
on like getting on coaches and
1023
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,200
stuff like that.
But sometimes plays are called
1024
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,560
right.
Sometimes wide receivers are
1025
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,280
running open and we can't get
them the ball or the quarterback
1026
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920
doesn't throw the ball.
So there's some things that are
1027
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,240
going right that you don't see
on TV, but some of these players
1028
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,800
just don't get the chance.
Again, I've seen Takahiti in the
1029
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,880
first game last year when we
went to Nashville and I was
1030
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,000
like, he looks faster than all
the other wide receivers, and
1031
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,680
then I never got to see him do
anything.
1032
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,680
So things like that, I'm just
like, stop wasting it.
1033
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,320
Let's find a way to put the put
the ball in this person's hands
1034
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,200
because we kept running them on
these like fake jet sweeps and
1035
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480
things like that.
But we just again, never went
1036
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,480
back to them.
So I hate to keep harping on
1037
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,480
things like that, but whenever I
think about like who will be
1038
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,880
important to this team to have
success, I think it's going to
1039
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,480
be, you know, on offense, I
think it's going to be somebody
1040
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,040
that nobody's called out like,
and I'm not saying they're going
1041
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,240
to just, you know, blow us away.
Somebody like what?
1042
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,360
Somebody in the in the, in the
chat, said Benji.
1043
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,080
I'm thinking, you know, maybe a
third wide receiver or something
1044
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,560
like that.
Because if you look, last year
1045
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,320
our wide receive was our top
wide receiver had like 500
1046
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,560
yards.
And then right after him you had
1047
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,280
maybe like 400.
Then after that it was like 350
1048
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,080
or something, right?
So if you can bump all of those
1049
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,160
up just a little bit, you know,
the top guy, if he has 600, the
1050
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,400
guy behind him has 500, the guy
behind him has 400.
1051
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,280
We're, we're making up those
yards that Tooting had that he
1052
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,720
was fighting people off in the
backfield to get or you're
1053
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,640
making up those yards that
Kyron's trying to run and get
1054
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,640
them.
We need to find a way to do
1055
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,200
that.
And I think it's going to be
1056
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,600
somebody who steps up that we
just, we don't know who that is
1057
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,760
yet.
So I just it's just my $0.02.
1058
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,240
I I just don't want kyron drones
to be like 60 to 65% of the
1059
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,520
rushing attack now the Tooting
on the roster anymore.
1060
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,120
That's that's just my concern.
Right, we're going to.
1061
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,560
We're going to fall into that
that because and, and I, I would
1062
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,920
be worried more worried about
that, I guess, if Bowen was
1063
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
still calling plays because he's
had the familiarity and he's
1064
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,720
like, all right, look, we we
know what Kyron is like let's
1065
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,600
just run him.
It's like, no, there's a reason
1066
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,680
why he brought all these guys
in.
1067
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,560
So I'm not as concerned about
that with Montgomery calling
1068
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,400
plays.
But that's just a general
1069
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,000
thought that I have is I just
don't want Kyron to take over
1070
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,720
the running game because we
don't have tooten in the
1071
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,680
backfield anymore.
That's why he went out and paid
1072
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,000
all these guys the money to
bring him in out the portal.
1073
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Let's use them.
Let's let's try to get let's try
1074
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,920
to replace Tooten's production
some way somehow and not have it
1075
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,760
so be heavily dependent on on
what Tyron's able to do and you
1076
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,800
know, with his legs.
So.
1077
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:06,960
He kind of close this out, man.
Yeah, I mean, I, I was going to
1078
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,560
before somebody even commented.
I was going to say Benji, yes.
1079
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,680
Now, I think the tight ends, him
and Harrison St.
1080
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Germain, and those are two guys
who've played some snaps.
1081
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,440
You got a new position coach
there and Brent Davis, he slid
1082
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,840
over from the off and the line.
He's a triple option background
1083
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,880
guy.
I think that this group's
1084
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,280
blocking, we're both run
blocking, particularly run
1085
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960
blocking because they won't pass
block as much, obviously.
1086
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,360
But I think that group's
blocking is going to be much
1087
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,200
improved considering Brent Davis
as the position coach.
1088
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,720
That was my feel from talking
with him at at the program's
1089
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,840
media day a couple weeks ago,
that they've really, really
1090
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,160
harped on that.
But Benji Gosnell, how many
1091
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,720
times last year did Tech do a
good job of scheming him open?
1092
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120
He was a guy.
I thought that Tech actually did
1093
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,600
a pretty good job of getting him
the ball.
1094
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Maybe he could have done it
more, but there were one or two
1095
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,080
big, big plays where it was like
an unbalanced formation.
1096
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,400
And all of a sudden Benji
Gosnell's wide open down the
1097
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,160
middle of this field.
He's a guy that I mean, he was a
1098
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,280
highly touted 4 star recruit for
a reason that was originally
1099
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,640
committed to Ohio State.
Like get him the ball, right?
1100
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,960
That that goes back to that
conversation kind of what Brian
1101
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,880
was talking about.
Like he's talented, get him the
1102
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,760
ball.
And I think in Harrison St.
1103
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Germain, if, if, if you want
somebody outside of your, your
1104
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,600
really talented running backs
and your wide receivers who are,
1105
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,440
are, are kind of still improving
a little bit to, to get some
1106
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,560
touches.
You got 2 Widers or two tight
1107
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,040
ends that have been doing it for
a while.
1108
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,680
Get them the ball.
And I think they're both pretty
1109
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,440
versatile.
They both got pretty good hands.
1110
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,280
And you think back to that
Military Bowl and back at the
1111
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,000
end of 2023, each of them had a
touchdown catch in that game.
1112
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,120
These guys can't catch the ball.
So I think they can add a
1113
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,960
different wrinkle to this
offense if used properly.
1114
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,360
I'm going to.
I'm going to throw this out
1115
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,480
there before I pitch over to
Brian.
1116
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,400
Somebody mentioned his name
earlier.
1117
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,520
You asked me what fuels a
success on the offensive side of
1118
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,720
the ball.
It's going to be, I think Cam
1119
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Selvin.
It's the versatility and we know
1120
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920
some of the stuff that Monty
does with the beers and stuff
1121
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480
that's made for a Kim Selden
type player.
1122
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Like some of those beers and
stuff.
1123
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,680
You want a player like Kim and
he's coming in.
1124
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840
I think there's a chip there.
He went to Tennessee because
1125
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,880
because because they all leave
Virginia and go somewhere, get
1126
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,000
shat on, get shat on and then
they come back home.
1127
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,240
APR went to Florida.
They shat on him and basically
1128
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
said you can't play.
What would that son of a bitch
1129
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560
do last year?
I think is the key because if
1130
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,920
you tell me you're talking like
500 yards, he gets to 1000
1131
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,280
all-purpose running and
receiving like 604 hundred.
1132
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,280
You want to talk about game
planning?
1133
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,920
You couldn't game plan for that
even going in week.
1134
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,920
Like what are they going to do
with them?
1135
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:00,920
They're going to run an inside
beer.
1136
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,920
They're going to sneak him in
the backfield and maybe run a
1137
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,320
dive off of like a motion.
Think about that.
1138
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,760
Put him in a slot motion into
the backfield.
1139
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,320
And then just run it down the
gut.
1140
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,880
As big as he is, it's 62216.
He's a great athlete.
1141
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480
He is a great athlete.
He's a, he's a great athlete.
1142
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,040
He comes over a former running
back, right and, and now is
1143
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,640
going to contribute as a wide
receiver.
1144
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,400
He is the type of guy that if
they can get him going early, he
1145
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,600
is going to be tough to to game
plan for.
1146
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,800
And we've talked a lot about
game planning and making sure
1147
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
that that coaching staff is
mixing it up.
1148
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,520
He does seem like the type of
guy that was written off by an
1149
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,640
SEC school and can come in and
and make an impact.
1150
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,640
But it just we just have to see,
you know, that Kyron drove is
1151
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,040
going to have to take a step
forward, both as as a as a
1152
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,440
passer and hopefully they they
scheme a little bit better for
1153
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,720
him in the run game so that
they're not just completely
1154
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
reliant on him to pick up what
they're going to miss without
1155
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Tooting.
Right.
1156
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,600
I agree.
Ron ready.
1157
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I
think we, we've held it back
1158
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,320
long enough.
Let's go ahead and pull this one
1159
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:08,200
out there with Babcock went to
the board of visitors with the
1160
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,040
presentation effectively saying
football's behind and not just
1161
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,240
behind, pretty far behind kind
of about, you know, somewhere
1162
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:22,080
around 9 or 10 of the ACC
overall looking for basically
1163
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,040
within the next, you know, year
or two needing to get to 200
1164
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,000
million when you're looking at
probably what, one forty, 144
1165
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,960
million operating as of this
upcoming year.
1166
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,160
It what's going to come out of
this?
1167
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Because I feel like it's when I
looked at it, it was kind of
1168
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
twofold.
It was like this is absolutely
1169
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,960
needed.
Why are we just having this
1170
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,000
conversation?
Hopefully the board of visitors
1171
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,080
takes their head out of your you
know what?
1172
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,040
So I, I can speak on take the
lead on this if you guys want.
1173
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,400
I was, I was in the room on on
Monday at the Board of visitors
1174
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,800
meeting and I, I thought Whit
Babcock's presentation was very
1175
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,560
good.
I thought it resonated very well
1176
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:15,960
with the BOV it people on
Twitter I've seen ask why is
1177
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,400
this just now happening?
Why is this just now happening?
1178
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Well, a good chunk of the
presentation was about the house
1179
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,360
settlement, which just got past
this year, and about the ACC
1180
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,720
settlement with Florida State
and Clemson, which just got past
1181
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,400
this year and what that means
money wise.
1182
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,560
There are things in there that
Tech could have been doing a
1183
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,240
long time ago.
That's a conversation for later.
1184
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,640
But the bottom line is, yes,
Virginia Tech needs to win
1185
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,720
football games, and yes,
Virginia Tech needs to be better
1186
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,880
in men's basketball, which is
going to happen, by the way.
1187
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:49,040
Yeah, but you have to fund the
athletic program correctly,
1188
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,720
whether it's direct or indirect
support from university, even to
1189
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,920
match UVA, you have to come up
with different ways to fund
1190
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,240
athletics and to give athletics
more resources if you want to be
1191
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,760
competitive.
There are a lot of really good
1192
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,680
quotes in there if you're
interested.
1193
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,200
We we covered it a lot this
week, a podcast and two stories
1194
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,720
over on Tech sideline.
A lot of quotes from wit about
1195
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,360
are these resources do not meet
the expectations.
1196
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,560
You know, Tech ranked the lowest
out of all the public schools in
1197
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,440
the ACC, 14th overall in budget,
right?
1198
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,280
That's going to go up, as Brian
said, to 144 million in fiscal
1199
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,600
year 26.
But at the same time, everybody
1200
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,880
else is going up too.
And which point, which again, I
1201
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,840
thought resonated very well, is
you can either step up or get
1202
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,720
left behind.
And it's not that athletics has
1203
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,640
not been a priority, but it's
that this is an inflection point
1204
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,040
because of the house settlement,
because of the ACC settlement,
1205
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,800
that this is an this is a huge
moment because if you do not
1206
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,240
take advantage of this, if
you're not prepared going into
1207
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,520
this, you're going to get left
behind.
1208
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,240
And the board of visitors today
earlier came out with a couple
1209
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,160
big statements that you probably
saw on Twitter talking about
1210
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:14,040
how, you know, we're basically
saying we understand we are
1211
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,520
going to find a way to come up
with money Now with Babcock had
1212
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,360
a list of, you know, $52 million
in investments.
1213
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,760
Don't know that all of them will
happen, but of course you don't
1214
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,160
you don't you know if you you
shoot for the moon and and you
1215
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,320
know you take what you can get
right.
1216
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,040
Wit's not going to wit's not
going to ask for 30 million.
1217
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,440
If he wants 30 million, he's
going to ask for 50 million,
1218
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,240
right.
But there are ways Virginia
1219
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,360
Tech, Virginia Tech has to
figure out how exactly it can
1220
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,360
boost the revenue.
It's not like you just snap your
1221
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,040
fingers, flip a switch and it's
there It's going to take some
1222
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,680
time.
But I came out of that board of
1223
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,160
visitors meeting on Monday and
also after this stuff today,
1224
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,480
thinking this board is on board
with what Witt wants to do.
1225
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,520
They are on board.
It's just going to be a matter
1226
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,440
of how the Hokies come up with
the money.
1227
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,240
So I think Virginia Tech fans
should feel pretty good about
1228
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,160
just the the the the message got
through.
1229
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,960
Yeah.
I think they're, I, I was sorry,
1230
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,320
Brian, I think, I think they are
going to get some of that money
1231
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,560
that they're asking for right
now.
1232
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,720
I, I think that the, the board
seems to be receptive to it.
1233
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,800
It, it seems like everyone
realizes the urgency of the
1234
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,080
moment.
I think that they are going to,
1235
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,240
to rise to that moment.
They're going to, but there's 2
1236
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,080
problems, right?
Because there's there's the
1237
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,360
financial side of this and then
there's just the on field
1238
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,360
product because, and I think it
was either Mike or David this
1239
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:41,240
week, I saw one of y'all say
there is plenty of room to win 8
1240
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,720
or 9 games in the ACC right now
with where Virginia Tech is at
1241
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,320
right now.
And they're not doing it.
1242
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120
And it's because of bad decision
making, right?
1243
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Brent Pry, a first year head
coach, hired a first year
1244
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,880
offensive coordinator and a
first year defensive coordinator
1245
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,000
when he had never run a program
before that.
1246
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,960
That's just a lack of common
sense.
1247
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,960
That was stupid.
So there there's just bad
1248
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,880
decisions being made all over
the place.
1249
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,800
And we don't have to get into
some of the decisions that have
1250
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,880
been made by the higher ups in
the athletic department like
1251
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,120
with Babcock.
But it it's twofold because you,
1252
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840
you have to, you have to
obviously have the resources
1253
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,400
nowadays, but you gotta you, you
have to have the results on the
1254
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,480
field too, which which they're
not doing right now.
1255
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,800
So once they start to figure
that out and there's a couple
1256
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,600
more wins on the board every
single year, you're just going
1257
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,800
to have some more money
trickling in naturally, too.
1258
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,880
Yeah, Mike, before I kick into
you, I want to say one thing
1259
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,560
real quick.
And this this kind of stood out
1260
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,480
to me and and was I think one of
the better points that wit made
1261
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:45,000
in the process was that this is
going to cost you either now to
1262
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,440
get better or later if you
don't.
1263
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,440
So either way, this is gonna
this is gonna be money that is
1264
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,560
is gonna cost you.
So Mike, I'm gonna let you jump.
1265
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120
And I know you guys had a had a
pretty big conversation about
1266
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,880
this recently as well.
Yeah, and I, I think that that's
1267
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,720
kind of what wit meant, right?
Everybody like took it on
1268
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Twitter and ran with it and was
like, well, I'm, I'm either
1269
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,200
going to be here or I'm not
going to be here.
1270
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560
I think his whole point was we
can deal with this now or we can
1271
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,760
deal with this later.
But like we're going to have to
1272
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,560
like have a come to Jesus moment
at some point about the money,
1273
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,760
right?
Because for every Texas and
1274
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Texas A&M and Georgia and
Alabama and Notre Dame, you
1275
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,520
named the blue blood, right,
that has more money than God and
1276
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,600
has a bunch of donors that are
contributing in a meaningful
1277
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,200
way, a bunch of very, very
wealthy donors.
1278
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,560
There are schools like Virginia
Tech there.
1279
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,560
There's six or seven or 10 or 20
other schools that are dealing
1280
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,720
with the exact same thing with
an athletic director that's
1281
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,320
going to the university and
saying we need help from the
1282
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,840
university.
This is not all going to come
1283
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,760
from our donors.
We have to find another way to
1284
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,880
get the money right for football
if we want to be competitive
1285
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,200
moving forward.
It's not just football.
1286
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,960
Of course, it's men's basketball
trickles on down, but football
1287
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,080
is the cash cow at all of these
FBS schools.
1288
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,080
It just is.
There are two points like Danny
1289
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,280
just mentioned, took the words
right out of my mouth.
1290
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
It's the money.
It's also the right leadership
1291
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,560
in place, right?
And there's enough money for
1292
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,840
Virginia Tech to be competitive
in the ACC right now.
1293
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,640
There is not enough money, or
coaching for that matter, for
1294
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,200
Virginia Tech to compete at the
national level the way a lot of
1295
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
fans want them to compete,
right?
1296
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:34,520
And it's one thing to be a top
10 or 15 program going on 2
1297
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,479
decades ago now, right?
A a consistent 10 win program
1298
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,080
that some years like 99 can be
more than that.
1299
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,240
And it's another thing to do
that now in this environment.
1300
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,600
And the ACC is different now.
The landscape of college
1301
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,560
football's a lot different now.
You need to have the money and
1302
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,680
with revenue sharing and NIL and
everything else that these
1303
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,680
coaches and these athletic
departments are dealing with it,
1304
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,240
it's a lot different landscape
than it was.
1305
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,319
And for Virginia Tech to be
competitive on the national
1306
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:13,279
scale, the way that a lot of the
fans expect and want it to be
1307
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,960
from the old days, there needs
to be a financial commitment
1308
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,000
from the university because this
is not going to be coming from
1309
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,760
the donors.
If you want to elevate this
1310
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,319
thing, not just to like 8 or
nine wins in the ACC, 'cause I
1311
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,600
think the money's there now to
do that, you know, not just to
1312
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,000
be A10 win program again, but if
you want this program to be, to
1313
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
be playing at an elite level,
which is I think what with
1314
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,439
Babcock was trying to get across
to the board of visitors.
1315
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,359
We don't just want this thing to
be 9 or 10 wins and kind of be
1316
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,520
what we were before where we
were just happy to to be
1317
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,720
competing in the ACC guys.
We don't know what the ACC is
1318
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,760
going to look like in five
years.
1319
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,720
It's going to be a lot
different.
1320
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,319
Is it even going to be a
conference anymore?
1321
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,800
That's up for debate.
We don't know, right?
1322
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,760
So Virginia Tech's got to be
ready for whatever the next
1323
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,200
stage of realignment and TV
deals that are coming in the
1324
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,560
next 5 years, all the expansion
at a College Football Playoff
1325
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,880
and what that's going to look
like.
1326
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,880
Virginia Tech's funding right
now for the football program is
1327
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:16,000
not in a place where this
program is ready to compete at a
1328
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,280
national level at a consistent
top 20 to 25 level.
1329
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,320
Money is a big part of that.
The leadership with the coaching
1330
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,280
staff, which it'll be either
these guys that are currently
1331
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,560
there or it won't be.
Tech's gonna have to figure that
1332
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,320
answer out, too, but I think a
lot of what wit, Babcock said.
1333
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,960
And I was just reading, I was
really just reading David's
1334
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,560
Twitter, like on Monday.
I was just kind of scrolling
1335
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,640
through.
You did a hell of a job, David.
1336
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,760
You did a hell of a job, you.
Guys did fantastic, you and Andy
1337
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,720
and David Thiel, everybody.
I was really just scrolling
1338
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,200
through all the tweets.
Wit was right about a lot of
1339
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,920
stuff.
Everybody's mad at Wit for a lot
1340
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,200
of reasons, and a lot of them
are justified.
1341
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,040
But guys, he's right.
Like he's right about this.
1342
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,640
Like everything he said in the
presentation was spot on.
1343
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Like he's, he's right.
Like tech's got to figure this
1344
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,760
out.
So I'm encouraged by the board
1345
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,800
of visitors listening.
It scared me that some of them
1346
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,560
were like, oh, we had no idea.
It's like, OK, well, we got to
1347
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,080
figure it out then.
Maybe they need to get off the
1348
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,240
board of visitors then if they.
Don't it scared me get that?
1349
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,720
Yeah, it was interesting to me
that like, I get maybe you're
1350
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,400
holding back some of this
information while you're waiting
1351
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,360
to see how the house settlement
is shaking out and you're
1352
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,480
waiting to see how some of these
other things with the ACC and
1353
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,480
Clemson and Florida State play
out.
1354
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:46,320
But we had a funding problem
relative to the heavy hitters in
1355
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,400
the ACC for over a decade at
this point.
1356
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,560
It's, it's just very interesting
that they weren't Privy to a lot
1357
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,040
of how that has evolved and how
that is, you know, eroded over
1358
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,760
the last, you know, decade and
1/2.
1359
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,640
But for one second, Brian.
But that's on Wit.
1360
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,160
Wit should have been presenting
that shit to them all the time.
1361
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Listen, that's my point.
Like I, I, I.
1362
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,600
It's all.
It's all I.
1363
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,920
Get that there is a lot of
moving targets there and that
1364
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,520
you, you may want your you're
trying to hold back maybe what
1365
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,040
you want to say until you
actually have a full picture.
1366
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,480
But at some point you can't
continue to fall behind when you
1367
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,320
at least know the parts that
aren't going to change, right?
1368
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,320
Like there needed to be some
conversations in the interim.
1369
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,320
Complacency.
Pressure.
1370
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,720
Complacency, man.
Just pressure pressure will bust
1371
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,040
pipes or make a diamond.
Wid is getting that pressure
1372
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,520
putting on his ass right now.
He bingo.
1373
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,760
He I ain't saying he listening
to Joe Rogers, but I'm just
1374
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,680
saying he he hears the noise and
he knows what's coming and he
1375
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,400
was trying to do all of this.
Well, let's talk about
1376
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,760
wrestling.
Let's talk about baseball.
1377
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,760
Let's talk about grab ass and I
don't know what he's talking
1378
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,880
about.
But then he realized that's a
1379
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,400
great sport.
You know, then he realized like
1380
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,960
if this is the cash cow, we
probably need to do this.
1381
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,640
I think Sean just put up a post
or or a comment that said, you
1382
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,040
know, you got to be able to sell
the vision.
1383
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,120
Listen to me.
And then I'm I know we got to go
1384
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,640
to something different.
I seen a man in Blacksburg.
1385
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,160
Excuse me.
I don't know what you call him a
1386
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,080
man.
Don't counsel me.
1387
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:24,400
I seen a person in Blacksburg
that was born a male sucking
1388
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:30,720
dingalings in the dark and get
on a laughed and then the person
1389
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,640
who unalived them never went to
jail.
1390
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,240
Anything is possible.
If you got a plan and you got a
1391
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:43,560
vision, go hire that dude who
who was who was the the lawyer,
1392
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,160
go hire him to sell the vision.
We probably get all the money,
1393
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,240
I'm just saying.
I didn't see that one coming.
1394
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,280
Yeah.
That was the right tally for the
1395
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:55,840
right.
That was the.
1396
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,720
One that was the left turn, but
that was he hated.
1397
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,840
Hey, in certain towns across
this wonderful country of ours,
1398
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,440
if you play for the football
team you don't go to jail for.
1399
01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:09,840
Shit, that's what I'm saying
man.
1400
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,320
I've seen some crazy.
Stuff.
1401
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,040
I know that down in Athens,
that's for sure.
1402
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,800
No, you, you kill people.
They have.
1403
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,000
They have it.
They get DUI, running into
1404
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,240
people, running over curves,
jumping on the sidewalk.
1405
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:26,760
Nobody ain't going to jail.
So all right, sell it, sell it.
1406
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,040
All right.
Real quick.
1407
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,240
This is kind of the last one.
Not a big question.
1408
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,480
Don't go.
Don't go in depth because I know
1409
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:36,760
y'all got all your media pieces
and David Deacon, I don't know
1410
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,200
if you can even release it here
yet.
1411
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,080
Just give me a record.
I'm going to start with Danny
1412
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,440
knows because I know he probably
of the three of y'all can.
1413
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,000
What's the record?
Don't go.
1414
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,080
That's right.
Yeah, very simple.
1415
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,080
And I'm going six and six.
And for me that's, that's the
1416
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,000
optimistic route.
I really, I, I look at this
1417
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,520
schedule and I see 5, but like
there's so many, there's so many
1418
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,600
what ifs, right?
Which I think a lot of it'll
1419
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:10,960
come with injuries, but this
coach Brett Pry has shown me 6
1420
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,160
and 6 is just about the ceiling.
And with a a a lot of roster
1421
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,120
turnover despite Drones coming
back, I just don't think I can
1422
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,960
go higher than that.
Yes, Mike, I'm.
1423
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,160
Going to give it to you, Mike,
because kind of, I don't know,
1424
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,360
you might be bound by legal
obligations.
1425
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,080
No, no, no, Curtis.
I'm good all.
1426
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,160
Right, Dick, David, Mike.
We'll wrap up with D.
1427
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,000
M6 and six.
Hey, he's saying we're making a
1428
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,080
bowl this year.
Remember a couple years ago he
1429
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,000
got on his ass when he said we
weren't making a bowl?
1430
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,600
We did make a bowl that year.
We.
1431
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,680
Got to look.
Yeah, 6:00 and 6:00.
1432
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,280
We'll make a bowl game.
That's a military Bowl play, 2
1433
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,280
lane, probably.
That'll be good.
1434
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,720
Yeah.
Six and six, six and six.
1435
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,120
Opening two games, really tough,
brutal November.
1436
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,080
Worried about drones, his
health, questions at receiver,
1437
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,160
offensive line.
It's got to, it's got to be
1438
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,320
better, or else this is not
going to be good.
1439
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,080
So yeah, six to six too many
questions all.
1440
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Right.
We kind of last man standing
1441
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:15,960
here what you got.
He's.
1442
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,280
Going up there.
Oh. 7:00 and 5:00.
1443
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,960
I, I, I think, but now I think
the most pivotal game on the
1444
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,320
schedule is Vanderbilt and that
that kind of changes everything.
1445
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,000
But I think Tech gets that game
at home under the lights.
1446
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,160
I think, yeah, the schedule's
much more difficult, but I think
1447
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,360
the coaching staff is better.
And I think that's the ultimate
1448
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,080
difference.
I think having coaches that know
1449
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,080
how to adjust in game, it's like
what a concept, right?
1450
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,920
I mean, like having having
coaches that can coach, it's
1451
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,680
amazing what that will do for
the program.
1452
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,800
And I, I genuinely think I think
this schedule is much more
1453
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,640
difficult, but I think the
coaching makes that much of a
1454
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,600
difference and I think they can
win seven games.
1455
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,760
And I, I genuinely think that
this depending on, again, it's
1456
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,800
really tough to say all this
because we haven't seen a ton of
1457
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,560
it yet.
But I think if the staff can put
1458
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,120
the guys in the right things
like this group, not as much
1459
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,840
talent as last year, but they
can do some stuff, especially in
1460
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,400
some of those ACC games.
November, it gets a little
1461
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,040
scary, you know, Louisville,
Thursday, Miami, back-to-back to
1462
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,720
back.
But I'm going seven wins, which
1463
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,560
I did.
You know, it's funny, Mike and I
1464
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,280
had talked about this recently.
I did not realize I was going to
1465
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,760
be the optimist here because I
remember a couple years ago when
1466
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:47,840
I said five wins and Tally got
on my ass for saying, oh, David
1467
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,040
said they're not going to go to
a bowl game.
1468
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,840
Guess what, Tally?
I'm an optimist here.
1469
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,280
That's right.
Hey, you, if you're dumb again,
1470
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,720
David, you should have.
You should have.
1471
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,280
You should have flipped it
around.
1472
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,280
You should have been with daddy
this year.
1473
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,280
All right, that.
Makes me feel.
1474
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,000
Better.
No, I'm just.
1475
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,440
Playing man.
It's only A1 game difference.
1476
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,280
Hey, I was feeling good that
year, but I no matter what you
1477
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,000
said this year, David, I was
going to say, Yep, that's a good
1478
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,960
pick buddy, because I don't know
nothing.
1479
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,720
I can see five, I can see eight.
I mean, anywhere in between,
1480
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,320
it's going to be, it's one of
those weird years where like
1481
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,440
because of how much turnover he
had, how much new we have on the
1482
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,640
staff, like there's not a lot of
known quantities.
1483
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,960
And we thought we had a lot of
known quantities last year in
1484
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,440
between injuries and fumbling by
the staff.
1485
01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:34,120
We we didn't turn that into
winds.
1486
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,760
So we'll see.
A lot of stuff there.
1487
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,240
I will say if it's if it's six
and six, I don't think pride
1488
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,680
keeps his job because I think
it's going down with him.
1489
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,440
Stop, stop.
We just had a BOV saying we're
1490
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:48,200
fucking poor Mike.
He ain't getting fired unless
1491
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,680
it's absolutely.
Atrocious.
1492
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,480
Only if only if wit.
Only if WIT gets fired, Yeah.
1493
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,080
Wit would have to get fired in
October then.
1494
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,560
October.
For that to make sense, that is.
1495
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,360
You guys are opening a can of
wire?
1496
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,080
So we'll bring you back on in
December, David, then we'll
1497
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,720
I'll.
Be more than happy to listen.
1498
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,160
Mike, David, Danny, it's great
seeing y'all again.
1499
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,680
Hopefully at some point we cross
paths during the season, whether
1500
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,200
in Blacksburg, Richmond,
wherever.
1501
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,760
We appreciate you guys joining
us as always.
1502
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,000
Again, check Mike McDaniel out
on Mike your on everything but
1503
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,160
hokey hangover, David Cunningham
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1504
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,440
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1510
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1512
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1515
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1516
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,680
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And welcome back to the Boundary
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I am Curtis Wilson.
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something.
This is what fear for.
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We're year 4 at this point.
I think we started back in back
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in 22 was the first one we did.
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people on screen at once.
Yeah, yeah, we got a little
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better about what we're doing as
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thing has gotten better in the
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look a little bit cleaner, but.
You know what?
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First year, it's kind of crazy.
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This thing has gotten so much
better because I'm pretty sure I
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wasn't on that first year.
I don't know if Sheldon was on
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that first year.
Oh, me and Shelton wasn't on it.
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It was trash.
Hey, it's got much better.
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It's got much better year after
year, baby.
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Well.
Trash was improved.
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No, I'm joking.
Shelton how you doing man
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tonight?
Dude, I've been good, man.
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We're we're getting closer to go
time here with the with the
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season.
Obviously my season 2, but I
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was, I was, I was thinking as I
was driving, driving back home,
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You know, it's like no matter
what happens in the football
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offseason, whether it's positive
or negative or neutral, I feel
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like once August rolls around,
you always get that super
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excited feeling inside of you
that football's finally back and
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it's really a feeling like no
other sport can really provide.
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And so I'm just glad that all
the offseason negativity has
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sort of faded away and we're
kind of start, you know,
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starting to get back in to think
of things here.
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And we could.
We can just watch some ball.
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Ain't that the truth?
I have to agree with you 100%
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regardless.
Like right now, you're at that
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point where if you've been upset
with the team, you're getting
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less upset, right?
Tally?
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Tally's been, you know, Tally
was fart on him, but it's
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getting closer.
He's interviewed some players,
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he talked with some people, he's
seen some shit and now it's, you
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know, we are what, 10 days, 11
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time. 11 days to go time man.
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it's all about like sports fan,
just life, you know what I'm
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saying?
Like whenever football comes
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around, you know that the
season's changing.
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Like here in Huntsville, it
started like a storm came
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through today.
So it went from like 92 to 80
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within like an hour.
I was like, oh, OK, maybe fall's
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coming around.
So you know what I'm saying,
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with football brings fall, with
fall brings, you know, the
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leaves changing colors and
things like that, 'cause my wife
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don't really care about
football, but she loves fall
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time.
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are.
It is almost upon us.
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Yes, it is.
And tonight as always with the
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panel, we have got some of the
best in basically the Hokie you
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can call it podcast, you can
call it writing, you can call it
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everything.
These are guys are some of the
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best out there.
The world.
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In the.
World in the world, Curtis.
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Best hokey guys in the world.
We got 2 panels tonight.
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Let's bring on and, and The
thing is that what I love about
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it, all six of them, it's it's
no longer like we were talking
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in here before we jump on, it's
like a reunion, like family
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reunion.
We haven't seen everybody in a
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while, you know, talk to
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reunion.
I love it.
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Let's bring them on and
introduce them real quick.
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Boom, boom, boom.
Before we get into it, starting
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first here, Mike McDaniel of the
Hokie Hangover Podcast, the BC,
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the BC Podcast, ACC Sons of
Saturday Hoops, still writing
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for Sports Illustrated, still a
father.
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As Tally said to him, he looked
a lot older.
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Good to see you, Mike.
Still getting carried though.
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Still go carried though.
All good.
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That's a good all good.
In the middle layer, managing
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editor of Tech Sideline D
Connor.
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What is up my man?
Hey, this is you guys were
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talking about a tradition unlike
any other.
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It's an honor to be back.
I always enjoy chatting with you
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guys.
Thanks for having me.
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All right.
Hey, DCDC got the hat, the side
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kind of hat, the hat kind of
sideways today.
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He's feeling.
Good.
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He got a little sun there too,
last but.
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Not for practice though.
Not from practice.
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We can get into that in a second
Last, but certainly not Lee, Co
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host of the Victory Live
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Man did some play by playing
screen games.
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It's always good to have him
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Danny knows what's going on.
Not too much, guys.
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Like David said, it's an honor
and a privilege to be back on
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one of the best traditions in in
Hokies football before the
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season.
And and it's an honor also to be
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a part of such an awesome
community of, of creators that
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love this team and love this
program and, and love their alma
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mater.
So hopefully, hopefully we could
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spread a little bit of
positivity, but we're also going
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to be real here over the next
several minutes.
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You know what's real, Danny?
What's that?
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That mic that you got?
Yeah.
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Sound like a boss?
Hey, hey, I, you know, I, I've
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done a lot of radio shows in DC
from this seat right here with
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this microphone.
I I have to at least sound like
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a professional right now.
Like a tone.
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So Danny Noakes.
Yeah, Danny Noakes.
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Well, we are here.
To talk about Hokies football.
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So let's get that started.
Brian Siegler.
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Yeah, I mean, we're going to
start it like this.
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I mean, and, and you know,
Danny, you alluded to it a
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little bit when we talked about
this being a tradition and, you
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know, wanted to bring some
positivity, but also wanting to
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be real about expectations and
kind of what we want to see this
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year.
I'm going to start with
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offensive line.
I mean, this is a we we focus on
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the trenches here, you know,
unabashedly.
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We we definitely have have our
hopes of of victory and defeat
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kind of pinned on what's going
to happen in the trenches.
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So we're going to start with
offensive line.
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It seems like it's kind of set
with the starters there with,
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you know, remark and Garrett at
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You got a altooner there and
Lathan and Cunningham holding
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down the guard positions.
I'm going to start this one,
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Mike and we'll we'll go kind of
around the horn here on on what
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you guys think, but I'll start
with Mike here.
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In your opinion, who is the most
important offensive line starter
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in this unit as it in terms of
what's going to dictate Hokey's
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success for this year?
I've been beating this drum on a
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couple different podcasts.
It's Montavius Cunningham
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because because it's the guy
that we all thought last
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offseason when he entered the
portal and came to Virginia
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Tech, we all thought that he was
going to be a guy who was going
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to contribute right away.
He wasn't that guy, right?
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Or was he?
Kind of nowhere to be found
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right on an offensive line that
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lot of last year.
Right now, he's being relied
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upon as one of the guys to come
in and contribute and, you know,
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really be kind of a stalwart on
a reworked offensive line with a
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new coach and all these new
faces.
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Now, Virginia Tech's heavily
relying on him.
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So we can look at this one of
two ways.
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One, he's improved a lot.
He's healthier.
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He's in a better place, right?
And it's a new coach anyway, so
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maybe he's just improved and
developed.
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Or we can look at it as Virginia
Tech had nobody else to put
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there.
We're going to find that answer
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out really, really quickly
against South Carolina.
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And I think he's the most
important guy all year.
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Virginia Tech's had trouble,
they trouble towards the end of
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the Fuente era.
They've had trouble now
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obviously throughout the first
three years of pry of really
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having consistency up front on
the offensive line, whether it
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be health or just overall
production.
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And this is kind of a make or
break year, right?
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You bring in, you bring in Matt
Moore to patch things up.
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You bring in, you know, a host
of transfers, 2 of them came
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over with Matt Moore from West
Virginia.
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It, it really needs to be good
right away, especially with an
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offense that is going to be
breaking in.
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So many new faces, so many new
playmakers at the skill
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positions, at receiver
especially, a lot of young guys
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are going to have to contribute.
So you've got to figure out
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offensive line and most
importantly got to keep Kyron
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drones upright, which was an
issue last year obviously.
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And the season really started
going sideways when he wasn't
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healthy.
Absolutely.
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I agree with that.
Danny, I'll let you take a
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second here.
Well, I think I think it's Remac
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and and obviously he's probably
coming in with the most
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experience, you know, started
all 13 games at West Virginia
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last year and and Virginia Tech,
despite the struggles over both
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the last few years of Fuentes
time and with with Brent prize
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first few years, they they have
found some gems in the transfer
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portal and and they're going to
need some more outside of Remac
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this year.
We'll get into some of the other
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positions all over the rest of
the offense and the defense too,
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But I, I just think that he
brings in a lot of experience
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and is a talented player too.
So I, I know our buddy Dwight
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Vick, a former offensive lineman
himself, is, is always harping
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on the offensive line, needing
to be better, needing to be
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aggressive, needing to have an
attitude.
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And he's absolutely right about
that.
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It's just going to make the
offense's job a lot easier.
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And, and Mike already talked
about how important it's going
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to be for Kyron drones to, to be
kept upright this year, for tech
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to, to have any decent chance
at, at winning more than six
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games.
And not to mention their their
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backfield, who there's a lot of
new faces in the backfield this
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year as well, But there's also a
lot of talent and, and a lot of
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experience and other programs
that's, that's going to get some
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touches there that, that
that'll, that Kyron Jones will
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be handing the ball off too.
So it's all going to start up
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front.
I think Remack is a guy that can
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come in and, and could sort of
establish that mentality that
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they're going to need to have
to, to to win football games
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this season.
I think if they are going to win
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more than six games, it's going
to have to look like classic
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Virginia Tech football.
They're going to need to run it
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down people's throat on offense
and they're going to with a few
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big plays on the outside.
And then they're going to need
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to play really stout defense.
So I think Remack is my guy.
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we we obviously knew when he was
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coming in, he was going to be a
pivotal part of what this
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offensive line was going to be
about.
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And we've seen we had a couple
of depth charts as far as the
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first unit offensive line throw
out there that for whatever
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reason had Remack on the left
side next to Lathe and not on
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the right like we had expected
next to Cunningham.
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Speaking of Cunningham, David,
tell me what you think about
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this one and and let me know if
there's any truth to these
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shuffling of the guard or if
you've mostly seen Remack line
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up it right there.
Yeah, Remack has mostly been on
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the right, exactly what you said
at the beginning.
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I'll take a different route than
Mike and Danny.
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I'll go with Kyle Altuner, the
center retro freshman.
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He's going to start at center.
And this is a guy who was
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recruited originally to West
Virginia by Matt Moore.
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He's from Maryland, so he's a
DMV guy, Our Lady of Good
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Counsel, pretty good high school
prospect.
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Matt Moore, the new offensive
line coach, he knows his lineman
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and he's a guy who tons of
praise for Altuner, not just
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him, but Pry as well.
When Brett Pry spoke with us at
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ACC media day, he said he and
Matt Moore had a conversation
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about just what the offensive
line was going to look like.
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And Matt Moore said that's my
guy at center, Kyle Altuner.
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He's like, you're talking about
retrofreshman, a guy who hasn't
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played a snap in college and he
goes, that's my guy.
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And it kind of tells you the
confidence that they have in him
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that, you know, he hasn't
touched a college football field
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yet in a real game.
And he's going to be this barter
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and it's there's not really,
there's no competition.
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It's going to be him, his
maturity.
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The the coaches have praised
that aspect.
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Just the way he leads.
He doesn't play like a like a
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retrofreshman or a freshman.
He he plays like a guy who's
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been doing it for a long time.
Danny and Mike made really good
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points about how important this
offense is in in in terms of the
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run game in the offensive line
and keeping Kyron drones
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upright.
A red shirt freshman in the
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middle of that offensive line
that that's a little bit scary,
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but at the same time, it seems
like he's going to be a guy that
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they're going to be able to rely
on not just for this year but
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for years to come.
And I think that's exciting
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because you're a Virginia Tech
fan and you're looking for some
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young guys like who are young
guys that we can watch out for
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that are going to be in this
program for a long time.
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Remember, this is the transfer
portal era.
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I'm and go all the time.
But with Matt Moore at the helm,
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I feel pretty confident that
that Kyle Altuner is going to be
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here for a while.
And Brent Pryor said that's a
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guy who could potentially be a
long time Virginia Tech captain
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for years to come.
So I'm excited if he might not
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burst out of the gates in in
week one against a, you know, a
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really good South Carolina
defense.
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But I think he's going to have a
big year.
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Yeah.
And I mean, when we looked to
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last year, there was like a
moment before I think some
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injuries set in for for Altoona,
where he was even, yeah, at West
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Virginia potentially pushing for
some, some very early snaps.
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So to see him come in here and
really pick up right where he
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left off before those injuries
last year kind of derail, that
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is it's pretty big.
And I'm looking forward to it.
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I'm going to kick it over to
Shelton and let him ride with
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this next one.
Yeah, we're talking defense now.
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Obviously it's been almost about
half a year since Sam Kiev has
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got got hired as Virginia Tech's
new defensive coordinator.
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Obviously, you know, we see it.
He's very analytical and process
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driven and just super detail
oriented.
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He talks a lot about situational
football.
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So when you guys think about the
defense under Sam Tsukas, what
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excites you the most about the
potential of this group?
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Let's start with Deacon and then
go to Danny.
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Yeah.
I think his ability to mix
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things up and, and something
that he's said that stood out to
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me was, and all coaches can say
this, but I think he's actually
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one that's going to do it
because he has done it in the
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past is base, his defense and
his game plan around what other
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teams are doing.
He's not just going to sit down
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as the previous defensive
coordinator did and run the same
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stuff over and over regardless
of situation.
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He's a guy who will adapt as he
has under his, when he was in
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the NFL, under those head
coaches and also in his time at
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like Wofford, adapting to
different styles of offense that
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he's facing.
That excites me the most.
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And I think he truly understands
from talking with players and
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talking with him and, and even
Brent Pry, I, I think my feel is
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that Cfkis has a very good
understanding for this group's
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personnel and how to use them
and how to put them in the right
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situations.
And I don't think you would say
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that about the previous
defensive coordinator.
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And I think that is an immediate
uptick, an immediate boost.
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Virginia Tech might not have as
much talent, might not have a
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necessarily an APR last like
last season or a Dorian Strong
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or a Monsoor Delaine, but I
think Tech has more safety
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depth.
I think the defensive line,
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there's a lot of really talented
guys and and a bit of depth.
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I think the linebacker coaching
is better and Sheldon to go back
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to Sifkis.
I think his ability to really
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get the most out of this group
is what is going to make it is
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what is going to take this
defense I think to potentially a
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new level.
Like, I don't think Chris Maher
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was able to kind of squeeze the
most juice out of this group,
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even though he had a lot of
talent.
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I think Seifkis will do that.
Danny, what about you?
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What?
What excites you the most?
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Yeah.
And, and to sort of piggyback
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off of what David was saying,
it's, it's just going to be so
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crucial, especially at the
beginning of the season and
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particularly in this kickoff
game against South Carolina, to
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adapt to what they're going to
do, game plan for what South
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Carolina's going to bring out
there.
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Because Lenore Sellers is the
type of player that would give
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Virginia Tech fits even if Bud
Foster was still around.
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I mean, those mobile
quarterbacks are, are for any
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defensive coordinator.
It doesn't matter if you're Bud
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Foster or or Brent Venables back
when he was still with Clemson.
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Those guys are hard to game plan
for.
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So the ability to adapt and, and
not just to to game plan, but to
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also make adjustments within the
game.
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They're they're going to have to
be able to do that on the
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offensive side of the ball too.
And I think that's one of the
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the not well, the former
coaching staff because they're
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starting with two the a new
offensive and defensive
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coordinator.
But one of the things that they
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were not always good at was
making in game adjustments.
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And that's something that that
they're also going to, I think
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be better positioned to do with
Steve Kiss there at defensive
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coordinator.
It, it certainly can't get a
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whole lot worse.
But I, I, I heard someone say
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the other day that they're, they
think that the linebackers of
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this group could sort of
surprise some people.
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And I, I definitely think that
that's true.
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Guys like Jaden Keller can could
make an impact on that side of
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the ball from that, from that
position from wherever they
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decide to put him on the field.
But again, it's going to start
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up front similar to to the
offensive line, right?
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The defensive line, that's where
the, the they'll be able to, you
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know, get some things going for
sure.
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All right, now Mike McDaniel,
otherwise known as Mid major
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Mike by some, some people think
that Sam Sidkis is also a mid
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major defensive coordinator.
What would you say to the haters
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who are are skeptical of
disability and what excites you
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about the defense, Mike?
Pry hired Chris Marv as a guy
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who struggled recruiting at
Florida State and was a middle
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of the road.
So I would call him mid
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linebackers coach, right?
And you had him be your defense
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coordinator, the way I look at
it, right, hiring CMC KISS from
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the NFL and the experience, the
guys he coached under, what they
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were saying about him when he
was hired, you know, those
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coaches that worked with him at
the professional level.
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I don't see how this goes worse
than it did the first three
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years.
I don't I don't see it right and
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if it does go worse, probably
only gain one year of it just
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considering the where we're at
in the tenure for pry anyway, if
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this defense ends up being
really bad, I am really excited.
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Like Danny and David both just
said, I'm really excited to see
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if this defense is able to be
flexible, right?
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Are you able to change
personnel?
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They brought in literally a
million safeties.
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They, they brought in so many
different guys in the secondary.
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You know, Seekers is talking
about this being multiple.
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You know, do they run 425?
OK, if they do that, maybe that
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makes a lot of sense, right?
Because you bring in all the
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safeties, you brought in all the
cornerback depth, you bring in
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more depth on the defensive
line.
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Young guys are going to
contribute.
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I'm really excited about Kamari
Copeland.
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He seems like he's finally
healthy.
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Is he going to, you know,
finally step up and be the guy
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that we want him to be?
He could be kind of an X Factor
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up front.
Obviously there's Calvin
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Gilliam.
There is some experience on the
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defensive line still, even
though you'd lose a guy like
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APR, can you try to replace him
in the aggregate, right?
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Can you find a way to have some
of these young guys step up and
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and contribute in a meaningful
way?
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Danny brought up Jaden Keller.
He's one of the important guys
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on the defense.
I think because of how the highs
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have been so good with him and
the lows have been so low.
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If we get an improvement at
linebacker with Xavier Adibi as
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the linebackers coach, if we get
an improvement there, that's
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almost a bigger deal to me,
right, Is, you know, Cifkis
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coming in.
I'm hoping with ADB, the
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linebackers are just coached
better because I think the
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defense was so up and down.
David and I talked about this on
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my podcast, but the defense was
so up and down last year.
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The one thing that stood out was
how poorly the linebackers
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played at times, and that was
obviously a position that Marv
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coached.
I'm really hoping that the
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linebackers take a huge step
forward.
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I think that would really help
this defense because I think
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when Tech's been at its best in
the first three years
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defensively under prize.
But because the linebackers
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played well, right, they're
filling the right gaps.
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There's no questions about what
they should be doing.
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When they've been kind of caught
flat footed, that's when
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everything's kind of gone to
hell defensively.
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I think back to the Syracuse
game last year was a total
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disaster with the linebackers.
So I'm just hoping the
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linebacker plays a lot better.
And I think with the Seifkis and
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ADB, the ADB addition, I'm I'm
really hoping that things are
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trending in a better direction
there.
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Good stuff.
Yeah, it should be noted Mid
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Major Mike was a facetious
comment, but to the point about
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Seifkas being at Wofford, I will
say there is a a very strong
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legacy of Wofford coaches coming
to Vt and having success.
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So I'm hoping we can keep that
Spartanburg pipeline going
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strong here.
This we know.
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Yeah.
Well, Mike kind of, you know,
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hit on some things that we were
looking at talking about anyway.
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So we talked about linebackers,
which is going to be very
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important, you know, this year.
But also, even when Brett Pratt
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was hired, you know, with him
being a defensive coach and
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being in love with Michael
Parsons, you know, linebacker
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and stuff like that, we expect
to see certain linebacker play.
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So I'll ask you guys kind of, we
know that Woodson is a lot for
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the most part from what I think
who else is going to be kind of
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a starter that you guys would be
looking at on that unit when
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we're talking about linebackers
this?
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Process if y'all you were there,
David, I heard your voice, he
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said.
There's still a battle at inside
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and and everybody on this panel
knows Caleb Woodson is starting
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the man's captain and the man's
unbelievable last year.
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Yeah, well, first of all, I
think Caleb Woodson can be one
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of the best defensive players on
this team.
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Like, I don't, I mean, he's a
he's AI believe they named him.
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They named him a team captain
today for a reason, like, or
443
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,640
this weekend for a reason.
You know, he's the real deal.
444
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320
Jaden Keller, It's really, does
the light come on?
445
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,720
As Mike McDaniel said, does the
light come on for Jaden Keller?
446
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,840
That's the big question.
The two guys behind him are are
447
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,400
are competing for those spots.
Antoine Santiago, he's the
448
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Temple transfer and Michael
Short, the North Carolina
449
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
transfer.
They're two guys who are very
450
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:47,200
solid who have some experience
yet to be seen if they're
451
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,400
actually going to start.
But I think for a while, Tech
452
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920
will at least to start.
Tech will will feel pretty
453
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160
confident about putting those
guys in.
454
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920
But I think it's really Keller's
spot to lose.
455
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,440
He's the incumbent.
He's the guy who was here the
456
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560
entire spring.
Those two guys didn't come until
457
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,400
a little bit more towards the
summer.
458
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,160
It's can he can he get better
with Xavier DB as his head
459
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,480
coach?
I think he can.
460
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,200
But I do think you'll see a
pretty solid rotation with short
461
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
and and Santiago in there as
well.
462
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Also, you know, Caleb Wooden's
going to need breaks eventually.
463
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,600
And then the other name in the
in the linebacker room I'd keep
464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:34,520
an eye on is Noah Chambers.
He's the the the Maryland kid
465
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,880
from Damantha.
I don't know that he would he'll
466
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080
play this year, but he's a guy
who has made some plays in
467
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400
practice.
He there was a pass rushing
468
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,840
drill where he absolutely blew
up a line, a running back and
469
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,480
knocked him into Elijah Brooks,
the running backs coach.
470
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,240
Again, I don't know if he'll
play this year, but they I think
471
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
I feel better about the
linebackers than I have in the
472
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,080
last couple years.
And it's funny, somebody just
473
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,680
asked about about Chambers.
I don't know if he'll, he's very
474
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,880
young.
He might need to put on some
475
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,960
weight red shirt, as my
colleague Chris Coleman would
476
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760
say.
But I think I think the
477
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
linebackers are more
well-rounded and there's more
478
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,840
depth this year.
I think there's also this theme
479
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080
with Tech just all over the
field where they've been
480
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,520
consistently inconsistent over
the first three years of Brent
481
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,640
Prize era.
And and for a guy like Jaden
482
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Keller, who we've already talked
a good bit about, if you're
483
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,360
specifically looking that
linebacker position, him needing
484
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,360
to be consistent is going to be
tremendously important this
485
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,080
season.
And, and David mentioned the
486
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,720
position battle he's sort of in
right now.
487
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
I think if he loses that
position battle, you're in a
488
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480
little bit of trouble.
And, and hopefully in that
489
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400
scenario, it's more about the
guys behind him playing well
490
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,120
than it would be about Keller
struggling.
491
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,840
Because I think in, in reality,
you're going to see all of them
492
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,720
on the field and you're going to
need all of them on the field
493
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,400
at, at different points
throughout the season.
494
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,440
There's going to get guys that
are going to get banged up.
495
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240
There's, there's going to be
different packages for different
496
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680
guys get on the field for a
different time during the game
497
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,960
depending on the scenario.
So I, I just, I look at him and,
498
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,120
and it's already been said, the
highest of highs, the lowest of
499
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,760
lows.
Those high highs, though, sure
500
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,680
are sweet.
And the guy, he looks like a
501
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,160
ball hawk.
He he can fly over the all over
502
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,080
the field when, when he's, he's
mentally prepared to do so.
503
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,440
So I, I just, it's hard for me
to take my eyes off of him and,
504
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,040
and what Keller can do this
year.
505
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Well, let me you know.
I agree with what Danny says,
506
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000
but for the most part, but
whenever you start looking at
507
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200
stuff, I mean, no, I, I wasn't
saying that to be, you know,
508
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,040
crazy, But I'm just saying like
when you start to look at like
509
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,280
players who have been at a
school a while, you know, or
510
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,760
even captain or you know, who
goes and talks to the media or
511
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720
who goes the media day, things
like that.
512
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,640
Sometimes that just doesn't have
to do with what's going on on
513
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
the field.
So when I look at somebody like
514
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Jaden, Jaden Keller, I hope he
takes another step.
515
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,200
But you know what I say I'm
agreeing with Danny on is I hope
516
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,880
that there are people behind him
just pushing it or you know that
517
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240
with some of the transfers
that's coming in young guys,
518
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,520
'cause I just want a coaching
staff that leaves it all on the
519
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,160
field.
Like, stop worrying about the
520
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600
next GameStop, worrying about
next year.
521
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,120
Let's try some.
Put somebody else in.
522
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320
If you're not doing your job,
Monster Delane, you can't
523
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040
fucking make a tackle.
Come stand over here by me and
524
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,160
let's drink some water.
I don't care how much you're
525
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,120
getting paid in NIL.
I don't care if LSU wants you.
526
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,200
You know, you can't get Cam Ward
on the ground.
527
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560
You can't get Club Nick Dubnick,
whatever his name is on the
528
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,920
ground.
Come over here and let's hang
529
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,240
out and talk for a little bit.
Let's talk about your next
530
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,120
school.
I just want a a coaching staff
531
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
that will take a chance and be
like who's over here on the
532
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,960
sideline?
Hey, you've been practicing.
533
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,920
OK, let's try you because I
watched the offensive line.
534
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280
That was horrible.
There is no way that there was
535
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,000
not somebody on the offensive on
the side of the field that could
536
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360
go in and give you 2 plays while
you bring somebody to the side
537
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,960
and say you ain't fucking
blocking.
538
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,000
Change your shoes.
Your shoes are stuck in the
539
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240
ground.
Put some different shoes on.
540
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
There's a reason why the
offensive line coach was fired.
541
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Oh my God.
I mean, just so no, I mean that
542
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Danny was, you know, spot on
with the things he was saying.
543
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240
I just thought about that when
he was saying it, and I was
544
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,280
like, no disrespect to Killer,
but I've seen him and I hope
545
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,720
that he miraculously comes out
and, like, just blows it up this
546
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,240
year.
Right.
547
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,040
But at a certain.
Yeah.
548
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880
But at a certain level, it's
like, are we really going to
549
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880
see, like, once you've been
seeing a guy for so long, it's
550
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,600
like, is that really him?
You know what I'm saying?
551
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320
I seen Parker and I knew what to
expect of him.
552
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,520
And I kept and I kept going, You
know, man, maybe he's going to.
553
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,440
He didn't take.
Yeah.
554
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840
He took a step backwards on the
quarterback's foot.
555
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
That's what he needed.
So it's.
556
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Just got to to your point, the
only thing that I say from a
557
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,320
positive standpoint on Keller
still being the guys that it's
558
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,360
never been about his physical
attributes and his ability it's.
559
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,320
And his highs are really high,
like up here.
560
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440
And he said yeah.
It's between the ears.
561
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400
So if he can put the between the
ears part together, then you
562
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240
might have something.
So yeah, I I think that's the
563
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600
one saving grace of Keller still
being in this conversation is
564
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960
that if that mental piece does
come into play, you're not
565
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,800
worried about him from a
physical standpoint.
566
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000
What I do like, go ahead, go
ahead.
567
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
No, go ahead, Tyler I.
Was just going to say what I do
568
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,280
like too, is that we went out
and recruited some linebackers.
569
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,120
Like if y'all think a lot of
times some of the linebackers
570
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,200
that we've had, you know,
converted safeties, converted
571
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960
wide receivers.
No disrespect to Lawson, but
572
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,720
I've seen him get turned into a
werewolf.
573
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120
He got stiff armed and started
running like a werewolf.
574
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,360
I don't want to see that.
Brunfield was cool.
575
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,960
They said he was really smart.
He also looked really small when
576
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280
he was in there.
He didn't he couldn't bring no
577
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600
ass to a hole.
So pause.
578
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Anyway, I need some people that
can hit, you know what I'm
579
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,040
saying?
Like I need some people that
580
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,000
look like Caleb Woodson, that
can go downhill and hit, you
581
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,360
know, I seen Q Reddish come up
again, so I think it was
582
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Stanford.
Who like he was a true freshman
583
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,280
last year and I was like, that's
probably the best Taco I've seen
584
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
out of this team all year.
So just things like that, man,
585
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,800
just like when you really get
back into it, like now it's
586
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,360
about to be football season.
This is stuff that's just been
587
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120
in the back of my mind that I
haven't thought about and now
588
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,080
that I'm going down and be like,
Oh, they brought this guy in.
589
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Oh, they brought this guy in.
Stop bringing people in and not
590
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880
playing them.
You know, I'm I'm just hoping
591
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840
give give him a chance.
You know, Cunningham should have
592
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,440
had a chance.
He may not be.
593
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
He may be garbage.
You know, I don't think he is,
594
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840
but I'm just saying he may be,
but he couldn't have been no
595
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,200
worse than what we seen last
year.
596
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
So if you're coaching on the
sidelines, like give somebody
597
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
else a chance if it ain't
getting it done.
598
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,920
But but I'm sorry, I didn't
mean.
599
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,040
Mike got us into this so I won't
let Mike finish his out.
600
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Mike tally ass, who's going to
be in there?
601
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Inside linebacker you brought
up.
602
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200
I think you bringing up Keller
set him off.
603
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Danny got it worse, so you got
to pull it down so we can move
604
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
on.
I think I brought him up first,
605
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,040
didn't I?
Kind of.
606
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,680
It was Danny's fault.
You know the build.
607
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,640
It was build slow build.
It was a yeah, it was a slow
608
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000
build.
I'm really hoping that Keller
609
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720
has not hit his ceiling.
I'm, I'm where everybody else is
610
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
at.
I hope Keller's the guy because
611
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760
I hope he's put it all together
between the ears, like Brian
612
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
just said, Like that's my,
that's my thing.
613
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,760
He's been really, he's been
really good.
614
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280
He's been really bad.
But it's like, like Brian also
615
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,040
mentioned, it's never been a
physical thing, right?
616
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,640
So, no, we'll, we'll see.
I, I would prefer to have a guy
617
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,000
with experience in the middle of
the defense, You know, I, I
618
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,200
would prefer not to be relying
on freshmen, sophomores in the
619
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,680
middle of the defense if we can
avoid it.
620
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080
So.
Understood on that and you know,
621
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,720
I think bringing in the two
transfers was the big piece
622
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,440
there because they have
significant stamps.
623
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
They play at collegiate speed on
both sides.
624
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
So we'll see what happens there.
All right, I'm going to put you
625
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080
on the Wayback machine because
this is going to scare you all
626
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080
three.
Well, Danny, probably more so
627
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,720
you because it's going to make
you realize something.
628
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,920
A deep breath.
The Hokies have not had a 1000
629
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,080
yard receiver since 2016.
First of all, go ahead cry
630
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Isaiah Ford.
Well we have not even been close
631
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,840
since 2018.
Can anybody name who that was
632
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600
2018?
Was it Damon Hazleton?
633
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Damon Hazleton.
Hazleton.
634
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Was like 890 something.
So with that being said and it
635
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
y'all been playing attention,
which I know y'all do and I did
636
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,040
the research last week.
Montgomery a shit ton 1000 yard.
637
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Wide receivers.
He's had a bunch who
638
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
exceptionally close to 1000
yards.
639
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,199
So I'll, I'll pitch it to you,
Danny Noakes.
640
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,480
If, if, if this were to happen
this year, pull up your roster
641
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
list.
Who do you think could get 1000
642
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,800
yards in this offense this year?
Well, I think, I think Donovan
643
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Green is probably where that
conversation starts just as a
644
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,920
guy that that comes over from
Wake Forest and was a a starter
645
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,199
for them, but he was, I believe
he was the top ranked Wake
646
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,400
Forest recruit in their
program's history at when he
647
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,360
went to when he became a Demon
Deacon.
648
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
So Donovan Green is someone that
that comes over highly touted
649
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
and with experience and and now
he's a a grad student here at,
650
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360
at in Blacksburg.
And I feel like it's an an
651
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,040
opportunity for him to really
cut it loose.
652
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
You know, he's going to get to
play with Kyron drones.
653
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
So we all know talk about a guy
with a really high ceiling
654
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,280
drones when he's on it sure is a
lot of fun to watch.
655
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,720
And and green just seems like a
guy you know, saw he's built
656
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,200
well.
He he he's had some injury
657
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,840
problems, though, right, He's
had some injury issues
658
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000
throughout his career.
So, you know, can he stay
659
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,840
healthy?
But that's a guy that if he
660
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,760
doesn't come through or he gets
hurt, it's, it's I, I don't
661
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
think that there's any shot that
anybody else has hitting 1000
662
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200
yards on that, on that, in that
wide receiver room.
663
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880
David.
I mean, I, I think Danny hit the
664
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760
nail on the head.
Donovan Green is definitely, I
665
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,800
think the most explosive guy in
that room.
666
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,880
And right now in, in preseason
camp, you know, we've seen
667
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Chan's Wiggins is banged up from
Price said earlier today that it
668
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,000
doesn't look like he's going to
be available for the opener
669
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,280
against South Carolina.
Keelan Adams has been banged up
670
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,120
to Kai Heath has been banged up.
I I think a lot of that stuff is
671
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,840
very minor.
Not to worry anybody.
672
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,320
I think a lot of that stuff is
very minor.
673
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,520
But those guys have to stay
healthy.
674
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,720
And the guy Jenny just
mentioned, he's been great when
675
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,000
he's healthy.
If he's not, you know, that's a
676
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,320
problem.
One of the guys that I think
677
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,760
Tech is going to rely heavily on
this year is Isaiah Spencer,
678
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,280
transfers in from Jackson State.
I believe he he was a terrific
679
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200
receiver at the FCS level.
He's got a little bit of
680
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
versatility, can play inside,
can play out.
681
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,720
And I think, you know, maybe he
doesn't necessarily have the
682
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,520
rapport with Kyron drones that
he he does right now because he
683
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,320
came in so late over the summer.
He wasn't here for the spring.
684
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600
And also Kyron, you know, didn't
practice a ton in the spring.
685
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,120
But I think Isaiah Spencer's a
guy who nobody's really talking
686
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,520
about because he he's AFCS
transfer, but I think he's a guy
687
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,720
that he could have a really big
breakout year.
688
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800
I'm not sure he can hit 1000.
And I don't know that there are
689
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,600
many guys that can.
I think it'll be a group effort.
690
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,960
But I think Isaiah Spencer's a
guy who could potentially have a
691
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,360
big breakout year.
And, you know, you've seen the
692
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,800
way that I think back to last
year, the way the Hokies used a
693
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
guy like Jalen Lane should have
used him more.
694
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,320
As we talked about earlier.
I think Isaiah Spencer can be a
695
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120
guy like that, that you just get
the ball in his hands.
696
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,240
He's very shifty.
He's very, very quick.
697
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,480
And there's there's another
obvious answer in the room,
698
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
which is maybe where Mike might
go.
699
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,440
But I think Isaiah Spencer can
be a breakout guy.
700
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,320
Yeah, my answer was going to be
Donovan Green too.
701
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640
But in the essence of just kind
of being different.
702
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,240
I am just really intrigued by
Cam Selden.
703
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Like I'm really hoping he he
steps up and he can be a guy who
704
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,040
can contribute.
I don't know if he'll be 1000
705
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,120
yard receiver, but we've heard
too many good things about him,
706
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,760
right?
Like gorgeous or raving about
707
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,200
him.
I hope he can step in and be the
708
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,840
guy that everybody is talking
about, right?
709
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,240
He can put together on the field
for purposes of 1000 yard
710
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,720
receiver conversation.
My answer was Green.
711
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,680
Just because of the experience,
the fact that he's got, you
712
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,120
know, like over 100 career
receptions, he's got like 1800
713
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,840
yards receiving.
So when he's healthy, he's
714
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,360
proven that he can be a really
steady presence on the offense.
715
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840
And I think Virginia Tech's
going to need somebody to be
716
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200
really steady in that receiving
room.
717
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040
It's a lot of like 6162 a 180 LB
guys.
718
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560
It's not surprising me that
there's a bunch of injury issues
719
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,360
already.
That is something I'm really
720
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,280
concerned about.
Cam Selden kind of bucks that
721
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000
trend a little bit.
So I mean that's something to be
722
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,040
a little bit encouraged about.
He's stockier receiver that I
723
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680
think can go over the middle,
catch a pass.
724
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560
You're not worried about him not
getting up.
725
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640
I'm really concerned about that
with several of the receivers.
726
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,480
I think I'm going to play
significant snaps this year.
727
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,760
So are these guys ready in this
offense?
728
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,680
We'll see kind of what it looks
like the Philip Montgomery
729
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,840
offense to the past if it's been
a lot of a lot of crossing
730
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,520
routes, a lot of shifty
receivers, kind of in the mold
731
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,360
of what Virginia Tech's got in
their receiving room, running
732
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,880
routes over the middle of the
field.
733
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,120
And Tyron drones, I love them.
He's thrown a hospital ball or
734
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,240
two.
I'm a little concerned about
735
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,720
this receiving group man.
I'm I'm really concerned about
736
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,440
them all staying healthy.
And then the guys that are
737
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680
healthy, who's going to be able
to contribute to be the most
738
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,320
consistent.
So I'm hoping for a big year for
739
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,280
Donovan Green 'cause if it's not
going to be him, who is it going
740
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,600
to be?
I know everybody's looking at
741
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Aidan Green.
It's like wide receiver one if
742
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,000
it's not going to be Donovan
Green.
743
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,360
The thing about Aidan Green is
like, is he wide receiver one
744
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,400
just because we kind of need him
to be like, is this kind of like
745
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,160
how Caleb Smith was and you're 1
of pry where it's like, are we
746
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,240
really sure he's ready to take
that next step?
747
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Obviously, I think Aidan Green
is a better player in Caleb
748
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640
Smith and I don't want to sit
here and slander Caleb Smith on
749
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,960
this podcast, but that's just
kind of like the receiving
750
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,320
group.
That's kind of those are the
751
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,760
types of concerns I have.
It's like, is this guy the wide
752
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,480
receiver one by default?
Like we'll see.
753
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,000
So big, big questions with the
past catchers in my mind.
754
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Yeah, I mean, you, you talk
about Aiden Green there.
755
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
And I think the the weird thing
that we're looking at is, you
756
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,000
know, I think someone said on
Twitter the other day it was
757
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,720
like, well, we're talking about
the youth in the wide receiver
758
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,080
room.
And it's really, it's not really
759
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,320
youth like most of these guys
are at least red shirts
760
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,520
sophomores or older, but not
very many of them have played
761
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
significant snaps, especially
for the Hokies.
762
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480
So it's more of that experience
and that experience with this
763
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160
unit than necessarily it is an
age thing.
764
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000
So it's going to be interesting
to see how that shakes out.
765
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Sheldon, I'll let you kick the
next one out to these these
766
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,760
gentlemen.
Yeah, we're talking Philip
767
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,720
Montgomery now.
James, you guys know all of us,
768
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,160
the coordinators get all sorts
of criticism, rightly or
769
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,880
wrongly.
And obviously we don't need to
770
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,880
re litigate all of the discourse
around Tyler Bone, who's now
771
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,080
moved on to Ohio State.
But you know, between play
772
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,160
selection, personnel usage, the
passing game, quarterback play,
773
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,120
what what element of the offense
do you feel like Montgomery can
774
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,840
really come in and kind of clean
up in comparison to last year?
775
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,280
Let's start with Mike and then
work our way left to right.
776
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200
I'm hoping it's not the same
game plan every single game.
777
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Feel like we've seen that a lot
with the recent offensive
778
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,280
coordinators, not just Bowen.
So I'm hoping that there is at
779
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
least something different we can
show the opposing team every
780
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,160
week.
I think there are enough
781
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000
playmakers and there are enough.
I mean, I just talked about the
782
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,880
questions with the receiver.
There's all different types of
783
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,760
running backs that Virginia Tech
can run out there too, right, In
784
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
terms of what they're able to do
and their skill sets.
785
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,000
I'm hoping that the running game
looks a little bit different.
786
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
So I think it's going to have to
be without Tooting in the
787
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
backfield.
Obviously losing a bell cow back
788
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,760
like that, I think you're going
to have to get a little bit more
789
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480
creative.
I really like the guys they
790
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,760
brought in at running back, but
it is going to look different
791
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,680
this year, right?
I would prefer, and I know that
792
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
the running element of drones
game is so crucially important
793
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,800
to what he's able to do and
without his legs, right, If he's
794
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,480
confined to the pocket, that's
not really who he is, even
795
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,920
though I do think when healthy,
he's really developed into a
796
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,880
fine pocket passer when he's
needed to be.
797
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,040
So I would prefer if they don't
run drones into the ground.
798
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800
And I think they have so many
running backs that they can kind
799
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840
of take the onus off of him.
But the biggest thing I'm
800
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440
looking for, it was a lot like
we've just talked about with CF
801
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Kiss on the defensive side,
flexibility in the game plan, so
802
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,640
many new faces, a lot of guys
that I think the Tech coaching
803
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,360
staff feels good about in the
receiving core, even if I don't
804
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,720
particularly feel good about
things there, they seem to, at
805
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:37,880
least that's what they're
saying.
806
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,680
And I I do feel good about the
running back room though.
807
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,800
And I think if you get anything
out of the offensive line this
808
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360
year, any sort of steps forward
and improvement and you can be a
809
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,840
bit more flexible in the game
plan.
810
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,920
I think that's really what I'm
looking for in terms of what
811
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Montgomery can bring to the
table.
812
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160
It's, it's a very broad answer,
but I think he's going to bring
813
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,200
more consistency.
And by that, I mean, kind of
814
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,680
going off what Mike said, Tyler
Bowen, it felt like early in the
815
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,960
year he did not get the game
plan right.
816
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,320
It took him a couple weeks to
get the game plan right.
817
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
And then he was hit or miss.
And you talk about, you talk
818
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,800
about a a game plan he got
right.
819
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,560
You look back at that Syracuse
game last year where Virginia
820
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Tech was starting Colin Schlee
and two backup running backs and
821
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,800
Malathai Thomas and Jeremiah
Kony and had a sizable lead and
822
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
put up terrific numbers before
things went downhill in the
823
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000
second-half.
It was the opposite the next
824
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
week where Kyron Drones and
Bashel Tooten should not have
825
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,800
played hurt against Clemson.
They didn't give a running back
826
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,120
outside of Tooten a a touch.
And it's like, what so and and
827
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,440
that was Clemson's worst rushing
defense in like 30 years.
828
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,400
So it's, it was just, it was
like sometimes Tyler Bone was on
829
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,680
and sometimes he was off.
And I think Phillip Montgomery,
830
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,720
he's so experienced.
You look at his last stop was at
831
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,680
Auburn.
And it's so funny because if
832
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,840
anybody reads anything about
Hugh Freeze and the way he kind
833
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,080
of runs his program, he's very
hands on and wants to do
834
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560
everything himself and doesn't
like he hires an offensive
835
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,160
coordinator and doesn't let the
guy coordinate.
836
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,520
I think Bill Montgomery has the
keys to kind of do whatever he
837
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,640
wants.
And I my thought is that unlike
838
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Tyler Bowen to what Shelton
asked, I think Philip Montgomery
839
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,080
knows exactly once what he wants
to do from Week 1.
840
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Like he comes out there with a
game plan and goes, this is how
841
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
we're going to play.
It's not hey, we're going to try
842
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
to figure it out.
It's hey, we've got a concept,
843
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,480
we've got a game plan.
I think he's he's got the
844
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,360
opportunity to really put text
best foot forward from the
845
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,880
beginning and kind of like
Cephus use the guys to the best
846
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,880
of their ability.
We were talking earlier about
847
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040
getting Jalen Lane touches.
He like there were so many
848
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,280
weapons on last year's team that
probably should have gotten the
849
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,280
ball more.
You got to figure out who those
850
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,200
guys are this year and get them
the ball.
851
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Like that's college football
nowadays.
852
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,960
That's football period.
Get the ball in your best
853
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,920
players hands and if it happens
to be a Cam Selden, if it
854
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,680
happens to be a Tucker Holloway
on a reverse right, if it
855
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,280
happens to be a Marcellus
Hawkins or a brave inventor,
856
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,960
you've got to get them the ball.
That's the bottom line.
857
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,840
I think that you will see an
immediate improvement in exactly
858
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,800
what David is talking about in
the ability to recognize who
859
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,680
needs to get the ball 'cause it
might change from game to game,
860
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,920
right?
We talk about having a different
861
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,840
game plan going depending on who
the opponent is.
862
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,200
I think Montgomery with his
experience will be able to much
863
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,800
more easily recognize who needs
the touches in that game to to
864
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,120
effectively attack a defense.
We talked about consistency,
865
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,800
talked about in game
adjustments.
866
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,600
I, I similar to what we were
talking about on the defense
867
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,320
side of the ball.
I don't see how it can get much
868
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,960
worse from from that standpoint.
And on the offensive side of the
869
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,520
ball, there was no consistency
and there were often times not
870
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,800
great in game adjustments,
right.
871
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Two more things that I would say
about Montgomery coming in is I
872
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,920
would hope that with that
experience in the passing game,
873
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,960
you can find a way to to ski
Donovan Green or Aiden Green
874
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000
open hit on some of those big
plays.
875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
They don't have to be
touchdowns, but open the defense
876
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120
up a little bit because then
that gives your running backs a
877
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,960
chance to to get it going.
It's usually establish the run,
878
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,440
then go over the top.
It's going to depend on who the
879
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,640
opponent is.
It's going to depend on where
880
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,280
you can attack a defense.
And I I have hurdle it.
881
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,400
It sounds like Brent Pry and and
this staff is high on Marcellus
882
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,720
Hawkins in the backfield.
It really sounds like they
883
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,200
really like him.
He's going to get a lot of
884
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680
touches, whether it's him or
Braden Bennett who comes over
885
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,560
from Coastal Carolina, who's
really exciting and the bowling
886
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,880
ball, Terry on Stewart, who has
been missing some time as we
887
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
understand it recently has it
didn't practice today.
888
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,880
All three of those guys can
contribute on on the offense.
889
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,560
So when you factor in a dual
threat like Kyron, you know
890
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,800
there are some tools there for
them to to make some explosive
891
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,120
plays this year, more than we
saw last year, which when you
892
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,120
when you had drones Tooting and
Lane not being able to take
893
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,120
advantage of those guys as as
often as they should have was
894
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,280
was really disappointing.
I think that'll change this
895
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360
year.
Yeah, you talk about like
896
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,720
getting guys the football and
riding the hot hand.
897
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,040
Let's let's think back a little
bit.
898
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Let's think to I'll go even back
further, let's go pit in 2016
899
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,560
when we just kept throwing those
fades to as they afford like
900
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,280
riding the hot hand when when
something's working, just go
901
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,920
back to the well having the feel
of that.
902
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,000
We want to see that a little bit
more, not not being so rigid to
903
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,320
what the game plan is and being
able to adapt on the fly and and
904
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,160
be able to ride that hot hand.
I mean, I I played, I played
905
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,680
offensive line in him and
Sydney, my head coach was also
906
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,800
our offensive coordinator and he
did not play collegiate
907
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200
football.
He was a basketball guy, but he
908
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,080
understood playmakers and how to
get playmakers the ball, and
909
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,280
that's what it's all about.
Just don't do dumb shit.
910
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,480
That's all I asked for.
I mean, it's not that hard.
911
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:23,680
Just don't do dumb shit.
Just don't do dumb shit is what
912
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960
we was doing.
We was wasting plays.
913
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,320
We was putting Colin Schlee in
to like run motion.
914
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,440
Listen, so you take somebody off
of the field. 11 months.
915
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Yeah, you never, Yeah, you
never.
916
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,160
You never build off of that, you
know what I'm saying?
917
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,160
It's just wasted plays, like you
got to do something in the year.
918
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,680
You got to throw like a double
reverse pass or something off of
919
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,240
that plate if you're going to
continue doing it at the
920
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:52,000
beginning of the game or the
beginning of the the year.
921
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Because when you think back to
last year, like even when we
922
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,560
talk about Clemson, and I don't
want to go all into that, but
923
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,040
when you talk about like a game
like Clemson, like we, I watched
924
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,080
it again for some reason and we
lost it 24 to 14.
925
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
And I think they were like 23rd
in the in the nation or
926
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280
something.
And we ran the ball like one
927
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,320
time or two times that game.
No running backs hurt,
928
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,240
quarterbacks hurt.
I get it.
929
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,720
Injuries happen.
But but I, I don't know, man, I
930
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:27,160
just, I think that you can't do
any for as close as we were to
931
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,360
win.
And I really don't think you can
932
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,600
do worse as a collective
coaching staff as we did last
933
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,440
year.
That's just how I feel.
934
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,120
We did a lot of dumb shit, like
we didn't use people that we
935
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960
should have used.
We run plays.
936
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,120
What what do you say?
How many field?
937
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Yeah.
Oh, we need to limit it.
938
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,680
So anyway, I'm I'm going to go,
I'm going to get off my
939
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,120
soapboxing and go to the next
thing because somebody was
940
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,480
bringing up a couple of, you
know, playmakers and we think
941
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,000
about, you know, Kyron being a
playmaker, but also the
942
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,360
offensive line.
Who else do you guys think that
943
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,320
we need to have a big year that
will fuel the the hokey success
944
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400
besides Kyron or the offensive
line?
945
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Who wants to start?
I just put it out there because
946
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,800
I know that's going to be hard,
so I was hoping somebody would
947
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,560
be brave.
I'll.
948
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Go.
Yeah, You go ahead, Mike, You go
949
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,880
ahead.
I was just going to say, I think
950
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,880
the three, the three running
backs you mentioned, Danny, I
951
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,080
think collectively we need them
to be like at least a full
952
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,840
tooten.
Exactly.
953
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Right.
Or a little bit more than that,
954
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,760
considering there's three guys
there, right?
955
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Obviously not the best news that
Terry on Stewart hasn't been
956
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,480
practicing.
Hopefully that's temporary and
957
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,240
we can see him back on the field
soon.
958
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,320
He'll be ready for the opener.
But we need those three guys you
959
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,040
mentioned, Danny Bennett,
Hawkins and Stewart.
960
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,280
We need them to be able to
replace the production of base
961
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,240
Holtuton that.
That's what Virginia Tech needs
962
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:14,200
in the running game, 1000% And
that's why you brought these
963
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,160
guys in, and that's why you
brought in so many of them, and
964
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,000
that's why you kept Jeremiah
Coney around.
965
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Like you have depth at running
back.
966
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,760
We need to use it.
We have to find the right
967
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,360
combination that.
That's just extraordinarily
968
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,960
crucial in my opinion.
Yeah, and I think it I think it
969
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
goes back to something I said
earlier in the broadcast,
970
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,920
gentleman, which is that for
Tech to to be as successful as
971
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
it is they can be this year with
this roster.
972
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,040
I think it on offense, it is
going to start with the running
973
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,280
game and, and to to, to really
play good defense, obviously,
974
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,520
but control the clock and find a
way to get one of these guys in
975
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,600
the rhythm.
If it's Hawkins, feed them,
976
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,200
right.
They've been talking a lot about
977
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Hawkins in the offseason.
Well, if he's the guy, then feed
978
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,880
him.
If it's Bennett, who's got a lot
979
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,560
of experience coming over from
coast of Carolina, give him the
980
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,920
ball.
If if it's a if it's a cold day
981
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,320
in November in Blacksburg
against Louisville, November 1st
982
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,880
and you got to ride Terry on
Stewart to the promised land,
983
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,360
then do it.
You know, and and the offensive
984
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,360
line obviously is going to have
a a major role to play in that
985
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,400
success as well as will Kyron
drones, because Kyron drones is
986
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
a very capable runner.
But as Mike said, you got to be
987
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,240
careful not to overwork him and,
and get him into a situation
988
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,200
where he, he's getting dinged up
because when he gets dinged up,
989
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,280
he's just not the same guy.
We saw that last year.
990
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,640
So I, I, I really have been
harping on the running game.
991
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,640
It would be nice to see someone
like Donovan Green.
992
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,480
I saw one of our, one of our
listeners also threw Benji
993
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Gosnell in there, which I, I
love as a pic as well, because,
994
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,760
you know, I think he's going to,
he's going to have to come up
995
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,000
with some really big catches,
maybe on 3rd down in the red
996
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,920
zone, wherever it is, they're
going to rely on him too.
997
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
He's got some experience, but I
think it all starts with the
998
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,720
running game for the offense.
This is what I'm going to throw
999
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:57,120
in.
This is what I'm going to throw
1000
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
in as well, guys, because
everything I was saying is
1001
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,480
really good.
And I think Curtis may have said
1002
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,840
it earlier when you just talked
about going back into a, you
1003
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,400
know, Virginia Tech style
football team.
1004
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Maybe it was Curtis or Mike, but
whatever.
1005
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,320
You know, sometimes you just are
who you are.
1006
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,960
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying that we're going
1007
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,680
to have this high-powered pass
an offense that's going to be,
1008
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
you know, rivaled organ or
somebody like that.
1009
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,600
I'm not saying that.
But what I do know is that we
1010
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,120
are not a strong enough team to
just run the ball down people's
1011
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,400
throats.
I just don't think that we will
1012
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,560
ever be that.
So we have to be capable enough
1013
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,400
to get some motherfuckers off
the line.
1014
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,960
We have to be able to push the
ball down the field, whether
1015
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,480
that's using 10 wide receivers
to catch, you know, a pass each,
1016
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
just to do something different
to get people off of the line so
1017
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,600
we can run the ball.
They have those receivers.
1018
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,920
I challenge everybody who
watches this show.
1019
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,720
If you're a Virginia Tech fan,
pick one game a season and waste
1020
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:12,000
your money.
Just go watch that game.
1021
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,720
Go sit in the stands and just
look at stuff that the camera
1022
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:20,200
doesn't show because I I'm being
on like getting on coaches and
1023
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,200
stuff like that.
But sometimes plays are called
1024
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,560
right.
Sometimes wide receivers are
1025
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,280
running open and we can't get
them the ball or the quarterback
1026
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920
doesn't throw the ball.
So there's some things that are
1027
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,240
going right that you don't see
on TV, but some of these players
1028
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,800
just don't get the chance.
Again, I've seen Takahiti in the
1029
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,880
first game last year when we
went to Nashville and I was
1030
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,000
like, he looks faster than all
the other wide receivers, and
1031
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,680
then I never got to see him do
anything.
1032
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,680
So things like that, I'm just
like, stop wasting it.
1033
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,320
Let's find a way to put the put
the ball in this person's hands
1034
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,200
because we kept running them on
these like fake jet sweeps and
1035
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480
things like that.
But we just again, never went
1036
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,480
back to them.
So I hate to keep harping on
1037
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,480
things like that, but whenever I
think about like who will be
1038
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,880
important to this team to have
success, I think it's going to
1039
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,480
be, you know, on offense, I
think it's going to be somebody
1040
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,040
that nobody's called out like,
and I'm not saying they're going
1041
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,240
to just, you know, blow us away.
Somebody like what?
1042
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,360
Somebody in the in the, in the
chat, said Benji.
1043
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,080
I'm thinking, you know, maybe a
third wide receiver or something
1044
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,560
like that.
Because if you look, last year
1045
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,320
our wide receive was our top
wide receiver had like 500
1046
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,560
yards.
And then right after him you had
1047
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,280
maybe like 400.
Then after that it was like 350
1048
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,080
or something, right?
So if you can bump all of those
1049
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,160
up just a little bit, you know,
the top guy, if he has 600, the
1050
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,400
guy behind him has 500, the guy
behind him has 400.
1051
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,280
We're, we're making up those
yards that Tooting had that he
1052
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,720
was fighting people off in the
backfield to get or you're
1053
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,640
making up those yards that
Kyron's trying to run and get
1054
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,640
them.
We need to find a way to do
1055
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,200
that.
And I think it's going to be
1056
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,600
somebody who steps up that we
just, we don't know who that is
1057
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,760
yet.
So I just it's just my $0.02.
1058
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,240
I I just don't want kyron drones
to be like 60 to 65% of the
1059
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,520
rushing attack now the Tooting
on the roster anymore.
1060
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,120
That's that's just my concern.
Right, we're going to.
1061
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,560
We're going to fall into that
that because and, and I, I would
1062
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,920
be worried more worried about
that, I guess, if Bowen was
1063
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
still calling plays because he's
had the familiarity and he's
1064
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,720
like, all right, look, we we
know what Kyron is like let's
1065
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,600
just run him.
It's like, no, there's a reason
1066
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,680
why he brought all these guys
in.
1067
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,560
So I'm not as concerned about
that with Montgomery calling
1068
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,400
plays.
But that's just a general
1069
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,000
thought that I have is I just
don't want Kyron to take over
1070
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,720
the running game because we
don't have tooten in the
1071
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,680
backfield anymore.
That's why he went out and paid
1072
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,000
all these guys the money to
bring him in out the portal.
1073
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Let's use them.
Let's let's try to get let's try
1074
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,920
to replace Tooten's production
some way somehow and not have it
1075
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,760
so be heavily dependent on on
what Tyron's able to do and you
1076
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,800
know, with his legs.
So.
1077
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:06,960
He kind of close this out, man.
Yeah, I mean, I, I was going to
1078
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,560
before somebody even commented.
I was going to say Benji, yes.
1079
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,680
Now, I think the tight ends, him
and Harrison St.
1080
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Germain, and those are two guys
who've played some snaps.
1081
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,440
You got a new position coach
there and Brent Davis, he slid
1082
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,840
over from the off and the line.
He's a triple option background
1083
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,880
guy.
I think that this group's
1084
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,280
blocking, we're both run
blocking, particularly run
1085
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960
blocking because they won't pass
block as much, obviously.
1086
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,360
But I think that group's
blocking is going to be much
1087
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,200
improved considering Brent Davis
as the position coach.
1088
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,720
That was my feel from talking
with him at at the program's
1089
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,840
media day a couple weeks ago,
that they've really, really
1090
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,160
harped on that.
But Benji Gosnell, how many
1091
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,720
times last year did Tech do a
good job of scheming him open?
1092
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120
He was a guy.
I thought that Tech actually did
1093
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,600
a pretty good job of getting him
the ball.
1094
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Maybe he could have done it
more, but there were one or two
1095
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,080
big, big plays where it was like
an unbalanced formation.
1096
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,400
And all of a sudden Benji
Gosnell's wide open down the
1097
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,160
middle of this field.
He's a guy that I mean, he was a
1098
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,280
highly touted 4 star recruit for
a reason that was originally
1099
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,640
committed to Ohio State.
Like get him the ball, right?
1100
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,960
That that goes back to that
conversation kind of what Brian
1101
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,880
was talking about.
Like he's talented, get him the
1102
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,760
ball.
And I think in Harrison St.
1103
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Germain, if, if, if you want
somebody outside of your, your
1104
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,600
really talented running backs
and your wide receivers who are,
1105
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,440
are, are kind of still improving
a little bit to, to get some
1106
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,560
touches.
You got 2 Widers or two tight
1107
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,040
ends that have been doing it for
a while.
1108
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,680
Get them the ball.
And I think they're both pretty
1109
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,440
versatile.
They both got pretty good hands.
1110
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,280
And you think back to that
Military Bowl and back at the
1111
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,000
end of 2023, each of them had a
touchdown catch in that game.
1112
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,120
These guys can't catch the ball.
So I think they can add a
1113
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,960
different wrinkle to this
offense if used properly.
1114
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,360
I'm going to.
I'm going to throw this out
1115
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,480
there before I pitch over to
Brian.
1116
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,400
Somebody mentioned his name
earlier.
1117
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,520
You asked me what fuels a
success on the offensive side of
1118
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,720
the ball.
It's going to be, I think Cam
1119
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Selvin.
It's the versatility and we know
1120
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920
some of the stuff that Monty
does with the beers and stuff
1121
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480
that's made for a Kim Selden
type player.
1122
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Like some of those beers and
stuff.
1123
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,680
You want a player like Kim and
he's coming in.
1124
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840
I think there's a chip there.
He went to Tennessee because
1125
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,880
because because they all leave
Virginia and go somewhere, get
1126
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,000
shat on, get shat on and then
they come back home.
1127
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,240
APR went to Florida.
They shat on him and basically
1128
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
said you can't play.
What would that son of a bitch
1129
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560
do last year?
I think is the key because if
1130
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,920
you tell me you're talking like
500 yards, he gets to 1000
1131
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,280
all-purpose running and
receiving like 604 hundred.
1132
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,280
You want to talk about game
planning?
1133
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,920
You couldn't game plan for that
even going in week.
1134
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,920
Like what are they going to do
with them?
1135
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:00,920
They're going to run an inside
beer.
1136
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,920
They're going to sneak him in
the backfield and maybe run a
1137
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,320
dive off of like a motion.
Think about that.
1138
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,760
Put him in a slot motion into
the backfield.
1139
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,320
And then just run it down the
gut.
1140
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,880
As big as he is, it's 62216.
He's a great athlete.
1141
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480
He is a great athlete.
He's a, he's a great athlete.
1142
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,040
He comes over a former running
back, right and, and now is
1143
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,640
going to contribute as a wide
receiver.
1144
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,400
He is the type of guy that if
they can get him going early, he
1145
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,600
is going to be tough to to game
plan for.
1146
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,800
And we've talked a lot about
game planning and making sure
1147
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
that that coaching staff is
mixing it up.
1148
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,520
He does seem like the type of
guy that was written off by an
1149
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,640
SEC school and can come in and
and make an impact.
1150
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,640
But it just we just have to see,
you know, that Kyron drove is
1151
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,040
going to have to take a step
forward, both as as a as a
1152
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,440
passer and hopefully they they
scheme a little bit better for
1153
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,720
him in the run game so that
they're not just completely
1154
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
reliant on him to pick up what
they're going to miss without
1155
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Tooting.
Right.
1156
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,600
I agree.
Ron ready.
1157
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I
think we, we've held it back
1158
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,320
long enough.
Let's go ahead and pull this one
1159
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:08,200
out there with Babcock went to
the board of visitors with the
1160
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,040
presentation effectively saying
football's behind and not just
1161
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,240
behind, pretty far behind kind
of about, you know, somewhere
1162
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:22,080
around 9 or 10 of the ACC
overall looking for basically
1163
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,040
within the next, you know, year
or two needing to get to 200
1164
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,000
million when you're looking at
probably what, one forty, 144
1165
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,960
million operating as of this
upcoming year.
1166
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,160
It what's going to come out of
this?
1167
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Because I feel like it's when I
looked at it, it was kind of
1168
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,760
twofold.
It was like this is absolutely
1169
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,960
needed.
Why are we just having this
1170
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,000
conversation?
Hopefully the board of visitors
1171
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,080
takes their head out of your you
know what?
1172
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,040
So I, I can speak on take the
lead on this if you guys want.
1173
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,400
I was, I was in the room on on
Monday at the Board of visitors
1174
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,800
meeting and I, I thought Whit
Babcock's presentation was very
1175
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,560
good.
I thought it resonated very well
1176
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:15,960
with the BOV it people on
Twitter I've seen ask why is
1177
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,400
this just now happening?
Why is this just now happening?
1178
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Well, a good chunk of the
presentation was about the house
1179
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,360
settlement, which just got past
this year, and about the ACC
1180
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,720
settlement with Florida State
and Clemson, which just got past
1181
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,400
this year and what that means
money wise.
1182
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,560
There are things in there that
Tech could have been doing a
1183
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,240
long time ago.
That's a conversation for later.
1184
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,640
But the bottom line is, yes,
Virginia Tech needs to win
1185
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,720
football games, and yes,
Virginia Tech needs to be better
1186
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,880
in men's basketball, which is
going to happen, by the way.
1187
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:49,040
Yeah, but you have to fund the
athletic program correctly,
1188
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,720
whether it's direct or indirect
support from university, even to
1189
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,920
match UVA, you have to come up
with different ways to fund
1190
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,240
athletics and to give athletics
more resources if you want to be
1191
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,760
competitive.
There are a lot of really good
1192
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,680
quotes in there if you're
interested.
1193
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,200
We we covered it a lot this
week, a podcast and two stories
1194
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,720
over on Tech sideline.
A lot of quotes from wit about
1195
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,360
are these resources do not meet
the expectations.
1196
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,560
You know, Tech ranked the lowest
out of all the public schools in
1197
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,440
the ACC, 14th overall in budget,
right?
1198
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,280
That's going to go up, as Brian
said, to 144 million in fiscal
1199
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,600
year 26.
But at the same time, everybody
1200
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,880
else is going up too.
And which point, which again, I
1201
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,840
thought resonated very well, is
you can either step up or get
1202
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,720
left behind.
And it's not that athletics has
1203
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,640
not been a priority, but it's
that this is an inflection point
1204
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,040
because of the house settlement,
because of the ACC settlement,
1205
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,800
that this is an this is a huge
moment because if you do not
1206
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,240
take advantage of this, if
you're not prepared going into
1207
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,520
this, you're going to get left
behind.
1208
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,240
And the board of visitors today
earlier came out with a couple
1209
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,160
big statements that you probably
saw on Twitter talking about
1210
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:14,040
how, you know, we're basically
saying we understand we are
1211
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,520
going to find a way to come up
with money Now with Babcock had
1212
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,360
a list of, you know, $52 million
in investments.
1213
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,760
Don't know that all of them will
happen, but of course you don't
1214
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,160
you don't you know if you you
shoot for the moon and and you
1215
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,320
know you take what you can get
right.
1216
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,040
Wit's not going to wit's not
going to ask for 30 million.
1217
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,440
If he wants 30 million, he's
going to ask for 50 million,
1218
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,240
right.
But there are ways Virginia
1219
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,360
Tech, Virginia Tech has to
figure out how exactly it can
1220
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,360
boost the revenue.
It's not like you just snap your
1221
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,040
fingers, flip a switch and it's
there It's going to take some
1222
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,680
time.
But I came out of that board of
1223
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,160
visitors meeting on Monday and
also after this stuff today,
1224
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,480
thinking this board is on board
with what Witt wants to do.
1225
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,520
They are on board.
It's just going to be a matter
1226
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,440
of how the Hokies come up with
the money.
1227
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,240
So I think Virginia Tech fans
should feel pretty good about
1228
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,160
just the the the the message got
through.
1229
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,960
Yeah.
I think they're, I, I was sorry,
1230
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,320
Brian, I think, I think they are
going to get some of that money
1231
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,560
that they're asking for right
now.
1232
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,720
I, I think that the, the board
seems to be receptive to it.
1233
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,800
It, it seems like everyone
realizes the urgency of the
1234
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,080
moment.
I think that they are going to,
1235
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,240
to rise to that moment.
They're going to, but there's 2
1236
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,080
problems, right?
Because there's there's the
1237
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,360
financial side of this and then
there's just the on field
1238
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,360
product because, and I think it
was either Mike or David this
1239
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:41,240
week, I saw one of y'all say
there is plenty of room to win 8
1240
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,720
or 9 games in the ACC right now
with where Virginia Tech is at
1241
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,320
right now.
And they're not doing it.
1242
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120
And it's because of bad decision
making, right?
1243
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Brent Pry, a first year head
coach, hired a first year
1244
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,880
offensive coordinator and a
first year defensive coordinator
1245
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,000
when he had never run a program
before that.
1246
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,960
That's just a lack of common
sense.
1247
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,960
That was stupid.
So there there's just bad
1248
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,880
decisions being made all over
the place.
1249
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,800
And we don't have to get into
some of the decisions that have
1250
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,880
been made by the higher ups in
the athletic department like
1251
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,120
with Babcock.
But it it's twofold because you,
1252
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840
you have to, you have to
obviously have the resources
1253
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,400
nowadays, but you gotta you, you
have to have the results on the
1254
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,480
field too, which which they're
not doing right now.
1255
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,800
So once they start to figure
that out and there's a couple
1256
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,600
more wins on the board every
single year, you're just going
1257
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,800
to have some more money
trickling in naturally, too.
1258
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,880
Yeah, Mike, before I kick into
you, I want to say one thing
1259
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,560
real quick.
And this this kind of stood out
1260
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,480
to me and and was I think one of
the better points that wit made
1261
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:45,000
in the process was that this is
going to cost you either now to
1262
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,440
get better or later if you
don't.
1263
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,440
So either way, this is gonna
this is gonna be money that is
1264
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,560
is gonna cost you.
So Mike, I'm gonna let you jump.
1265
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120
And I know you guys had a had a
pretty big conversation about
1266
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,880
this recently as well.
Yeah, and I, I think that that's
1267
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,720
kind of what wit meant, right?
Everybody like took it on
1268
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Twitter and ran with it and was
like, well, I'm, I'm either
1269
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,200
going to be here or I'm not
going to be here.
1270
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560
I think his whole point was we
can deal with this now or we can
1271
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,760
deal with this later.
But like we're going to have to
1272
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,560
like have a come to Jesus moment
at some point about the money,
1273
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,760
right?
Because for every Texas and
1274
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Texas A&M and Georgia and
Alabama and Notre Dame, you
1275
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,520
named the blue blood, right,
that has more money than God and
1276
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,600
has a bunch of donors that are
contributing in a meaningful
1277
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,200
way, a bunch of very, very
wealthy donors.
1278
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,560
There are schools like Virginia
Tech there.
1279
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,560
There's six or seven or 10 or 20
other schools that are dealing
1280
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,720
with the exact same thing with
an athletic director that's
1281
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,320
going to the university and
saying we need help from the
1282
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,840
university.
This is not all going to come
1283
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,760
from our donors.
We have to find another way to
1284
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,880
get the money right for football
if we want to be competitive
1285
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,200
moving forward.
It's not just football.
1286
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,960
Of course, it's men's basketball
trickles on down, but football
1287
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,080
is the cash cow at all of these
FBS schools.
1288
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,080
It just is.
There are two points like Danny
1289
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,280
just mentioned, took the words
right out of my mouth.
1290
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
It's the money.
It's also the right leadership
1291
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,560
in place, right?
And there's enough money for
1292
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,840
Virginia Tech to be competitive
in the ACC right now.
1293
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,640
There is not enough money, or
coaching for that matter, for
1294
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,200
Virginia Tech to compete at the
national level the way a lot of
1295
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
fans want them to compete,
right?
1296
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:34,520
And it's one thing to be a top
10 or 15 program going on 2
1297
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,479
decades ago now, right?
A a consistent 10 win program
1298
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,080
that some years like 99 can be
more than that.
1299
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,240
And it's another thing to do
that now in this environment.
1300
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,600
And the ACC is different now.
The landscape of college
1301
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,560
football's a lot different now.
You need to have the money and
1302
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,680
with revenue sharing and NIL and
everything else that these
1303
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,680
coaches and these athletic
departments are dealing with it,
1304
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,240
it's a lot different landscape
than it was.
1305
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,319
And for Virginia Tech to be
competitive on the national
1306
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:13,279
scale, the way that a lot of the
fans expect and want it to be
1307
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,960
from the old days, there needs
to be a financial commitment
1308
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,000
from the university because this
is not going to be coming from
1309
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,760
the donors.
If you want to elevate this
1310
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,319
thing, not just to like 8 or
nine wins in the ACC, 'cause I
1311
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,600
think the money's there now to
do that, you know, not just to
1312
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,000
be A10 win program again, but if
you want this program to be, to
1313
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
be playing at an elite level,
which is I think what with
1314
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,439
Babcock was trying to get across
to the board of visitors.
1315
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,359
We don't just want this thing to
be 9 or 10 wins and kind of be
1316
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,520
what we were before where we
were just happy to to be
1317
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,720
competing in the ACC guys.
We don't know what the ACC is
1318
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,760
going to look like in five
years.
1319
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,720
It's going to be a lot
different.
1320
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,319
Is it even going to be a
conference anymore?
1321
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,800
That's up for debate.
We don't know, right?
1322
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,760
So Virginia Tech's got to be
ready for whatever the next
1323
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,200
stage of realignment and TV
deals that are coming in the
1324
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,560
next 5 years, all the expansion
at a College Football Playoff
1325
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,880
and what that's going to look
like.
1326
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,880
Virginia Tech's funding right
now for the football program is
1327
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:16,000
not in a place where this
program is ready to compete at a
1328
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,280
national level at a consistent
top 20 to 25 level.
1329
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,320
Money is a big part of that.
The leadership with the coaching
1330
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,280
staff, which it'll be either
these guys that are currently
1331
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,560
there or it won't be.
Tech's gonna have to figure that
1332
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,320
answer out, too, but I think a
lot of what wit, Babcock said.
1333
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,960
And I was just reading, I was
really just reading David's
1334
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,560
Twitter, like on Monday.
I was just kind of scrolling
1335
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,640
through.
You did a hell of a job, David.
1336
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,760
You did a hell of a job, you.
Guys did fantastic, you and Andy
1337
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,720
and David Thiel, everybody.
I was really just scrolling
1338
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,200
through all the tweets.
Wit was right about a lot of
1339
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,920
stuff.
Everybody's mad at Wit for a lot
1340
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,200
of reasons, and a lot of them
are justified.
1341
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,040
But guys, he's right.
Like he's right about this.
1342
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,640
Like everything he said in the
presentation was spot on.
1343
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Like he's, he's right.
Like tech's got to figure this
1344
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,760
out.
So I'm encouraged by the board
1345
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,800
of visitors listening.
It scared me that some of them
1346
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,560
were like, oh, we had no idea.
It's like, OK, well, we got to
1347
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,080
figure it out then.
Maybe they need to get off the
1348
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,240
board of visitors then if they.
Don't it scared me get that?
1349
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,720
Yeah, it was interesting to me
that like, I get maybe you're
1350
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,400
holding back some of this
information while you're waiting
1351
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,360
to see how the house settlement
is shaking out and you're
1352
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,480
waiting to see how some of these
other things with the ACC and
1353
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,480
Clemson and Florida State play
out.
1354
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:46,320
But we had a funding problem
relative to the heavy hitters in
1355
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,400
the ACC for over a decade at
this point.
1356
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,560
It's, it's just very interesting
that they weren't Privy to a lot
1357
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,040
of how that has evolved and how
that is, you know, eroded over
1358
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,760
the last, you know, decade and
1/2.
1359
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,640
But for one second, Brian.
But that's on Wit.
1360
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,160
Wit should have been presenting
that shit to them all the time.
1361
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Listen, that's my point.
Like I, I, I.
1362
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,600
It's all.
It's all I.
1363
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,920
Get that there is a lot of
moving targets there and that
1364
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,520
you, you may want your you're
trying to hold back maybe what
1365
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,040
you want to say until you
actually have a full picture.
1366
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,480
But at some point you can't
continue to fall behind when you
1367
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,320
at least know the parts that
aren't going to change, right?
1368
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,320
Like there needed to be some
conversations in the interim.
1369
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,320
Complacency.
Pressure.
1370
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,720
Complacency, man.
Just pressure pressure will bust
1371
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,040
pipes or make a diamond.
Wid is getting that pressure
1372
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,520
putting on his ass right now.
He bingo.
1373
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,760
He I ain't saying he listening
to Joe Rogers, but I'm just
1374
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,680
saying he he hears the noise and
he knows what's coming and he
1375
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,400
was trying to do all of this.
Well, let's talk about
1376
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,760
wrestling.
Let's talk about baseball.
1377
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,760
Let's talk about grab ass and I
don't know what he's talking
1378
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,880
about.
But then he realized that's a
1379
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,400
great sport.
You know, then he realized like
1380
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,960
if this is the cash cow, we
probably need to do this.
1381
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,640
I think Sean just put up a post
or or a comment that said, you
1382
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,040
know, you got to be able to sell
the vision.
1383
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,120
Listen to me.
And then I'm I know we got to go
1384
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,640
to something different.
I seen a man in Blacksburg.
1385
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,160
Excuse me.
I don't know what you call him a
1386
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,080
man.
Don't counsel me.
1387
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:24,400
I seen a person in Blacksburg
that was born a male sucking
1388
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:30,720
dingalings in the dark and get
on a laughed and then the person
1389
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,640
who unalived them never went to
jail.
1390
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,240
Anything is possible.
If you got a plan and you got a
1391
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:43,560
vision, go hire that dude who
who was who was the the lawyer,
1392
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,160
go hire him to sell the vision.
We probably get all the money,
1393
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,240
I'm just saying.
I didn't see that one coming.
1394
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,280
Yeah.
That was the right tally for the
1395
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:55,840
right.
That was the.
1396
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,720
One that was the left turn, but
that was he hated.
1397
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,840
Hey, in certain towns across
this wonderful country of ours,
1398
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,440
if you play for the football
team you don't go to jail for.
1399
01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:09,840
Shit, that's what I'm saying
man.
1400
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,320
I've seen some crazy.
Stuff.
1401
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,040
I know that down in Athens,
that's for sure.
1402
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,800
No, you, you kill people.
They have.
1403
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,000
They have it.
They get DUI, running into
1404
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,240
people, running over curves,
jumping on the sidewalk.
1405
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:26,760
Nobody ain't going to jail.
So all right, sell it, sell it.
1406
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,040
All right.
Real quick.
1407
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,240
This is kind of the last one.
Not a big question.
1408
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,480
Don't go.
Don't go in depth because I know
1409
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:36,760
y'all got all your media pieces
and David Deacon, I don't know
1410
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,200
if you can even release it here
yet.
1411
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,080
Just give me a record.
I'm going to start with Danny
1412
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,440
knows because I know he probably
of the three of y'all can.
1413
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,000
What's the record?
Don't go.
1414
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,080
That's right.
Yeah, very simple.
1415
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,080
And I'm going six and six.
And for me that's, that's the
1416
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,000
optimistic route.
I really, I, I look at this
1417
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,520
schedule and I see 5, but like
there's so many, there's so many
1418
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,600
what ifs, right?
Which I think a lot of it'll
1419
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:10,960
come with injuries, but this
coach Brett Pry has shown me 6
1420
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,160
and 6 is just about the ceiling.
And with a a a lot of roster
1421
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,120
turnover despite Drones coming
back, I just don't think I can
1422
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,960
go higher than that.
Yes, Mike, I'm.
1423
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,160
Going to give it to you, Mike,
because kind of, I don't know,
1424
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,360
you might be bound by legal
obligations.
1425
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,080
No, no, no, Curtis.
I'm good all.
1426
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,160
Right, Dick, David, Mike.
We'll wrap up with D.
1427
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,000
M6 and six.
Hey, he's saying we're making a
1428
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,080
bowl this year.
Remember a couple years ago he
1429
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,000
got on his ass when he said we
weren't making a bowl?
1430
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,600
We did make a bowl that year.
We.
1431
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,680
Got to look.
Yeah, 6:00 and 6:00.
1432
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,280
We'll make a bowl game.
That's a military Bowl play, 2
1433
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,280
lane, probably.
That'll be good.
1434
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,720
Yeah.
Six and six, six and six.
1435
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,120
Opening two games, really tough,
brutal November.
1436
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,080
Worried about drones, his
health, questions at receiver,
1437
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,160
offensive line.
It's got to, it's got to be
1438
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,320
better, or else this is not
going to be good.
1439
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,080
So yeah, six to six too many
questions all.
1440
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Right.
We kind of last man standing
1441
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:15,960
here what you got.
He's.
1442
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,280
Going up there.
Oh. 7:00 and 5:00.
1443
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,960
I, I, I think, but now I think
the most pivotal game on the
1444
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,320
schedule is Vanderbilt and that
that kind of changes everything.
1445
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,000
But I think Tech gets that game
at home under the lights.
1446
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,160
I think, yeah, the schedule's
much more difficult, but I think
1447
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,360
the coaching staff is better.
And I think that's the ultimate
1448
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,080
difference.
I think having coaches that know
1449
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,080
how to adjust in game, it's like
what a concept, right?
1450
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,920
I mean, like having having
coaches that can coach, it's
1451
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,680
amazing what that will do for
the program.
1452
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,800
And I, I genuinely think I think
this schedule is much more
1453
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,640
difficult, but I think the
coaching makes that much of a
1454
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,600
difference and I think they can
win seven games.
1455
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,760
And I, I genuinely think that
this depending on, again, it's
1456
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,800
really tough to say all this
because we haven't seen a ton of
1457
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,560
it yet.
But I think if the staff can put
1458
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,120
the guys in the right things
like this group, not as much
1459
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,840
talent as last year, but they
can do some stuff, especially in
1460
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,400
some of those ACC games.
November, it gets a little
1461
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,040
scary, you know, Louisville,
Thursday, Miami, back-to-back to
1462
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,720
back.
But I'm going seven wins, which
1463
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,560
I did.
You know, it's funny, Mike and I
1464
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,280
had talked about this recently.
I did not realize I was going to
1465
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,760
be the optimist here because I
remember a couple years ago when
1466
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:47,840
I said five wins and Tally got
on my ass for saying, oh, David
1467
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,040
said they're not going to go to
a bowl game.
1468
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,840
Guess what, Tally?
I'm an optimist here.
1469
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,280
That's right.
Hey, you, if you're dumb again,
1470
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,720
David, you should have.
You should have.
1471
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,280
You should have flipped it
around.
1472
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,280
You should have been with daddy
this year.
1473
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,280
All right, that.
Makes me feel.
1474
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,000
Better.
No, I'm just.
1475
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,440
Playing man.
It's only A1 game difference.
1476
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,280
Hey, I was feeling good that
year, but I no matter what you
1477
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,000
said this year, David, I was
going to say, Yep, that's a good
1478
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,960
pick buddy, because I don't know
nothing.
1479
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,720
I can see five, I can see eight.
I mean, anywhere in between,
1480
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,320
it's going to be, it's one of
those weird years where like
1481
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,440
because of how much turnover he
had, how much new we have on the
1482
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,640
staff, like there's not a lot of
known quantities.
1483
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,960
And we thought we had a lot of
known quantities last year in
1484
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,440
between injuries and fumbling by
the staff.
1485
01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:34,120
We we didn't turn that into
winds.
1486
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,760
So we'll see.
A lot of stuff there.
1487
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,240
I will say if it's if it's six
and six, I don't think pride
1488
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,680
keeps his job because I think
it's going down with him.
1489
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,440
Stop, stop.
We just had a BOV saying we're
1490
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:48,200
fucking poor Mike.
He ain't getting fired unless
1491
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,680
it's absolutely.
Atrocious.
1492
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,480
Only if only if wit.
Only if WIT gets fired, Yeah.
1493
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,080
Wit would have to get fired in
October then.
1494
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,560
October.
For that to make sense, that is.
1495
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,360
You guys are opening a can of
wire?
1496
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,080
So we'll bring you back on in
December, David, then we'll
1497
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,720
I'll.
Be more than happy to listen.
1498
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,160
Mike, David, Danny, it's great
seeing y'all again.
1499
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,680
Hopefully at some point we cross
paths during the season, whether
1500
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,200
in Blacksburg, Richmond,
wherever.
1501
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,760
We appreciate you guys joining
us as always.
1502
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,000
Again, check Mike McDaniel out
on Mike your on everything but
1503
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,160
hokey hangover, David Cunningham
on tech sideline.
1504
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1510
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1511
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1512
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1513
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you a little bit about it and
we'll talk a little bit more on
1515
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the backside with with three new
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1516
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,680
Hey, Hokie Nation.
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1517
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,040
Corner.
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1518
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,720
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1525
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Matt, tell the people more.
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1526
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1534
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Mike McDaniel graduated from the Pamplin College of Business at Virginia Tech in 2015. He has previously written for Gobbler Country on the SB Nation network, Fighting Gobbler for Fansided, InsideTheACC.com, The Tech Lunch Pail, and most recently for Sports Illustrated. In addition to writing, Mike is also the host of the Sons of Saturday Hoops podcast, co-host of Basketball Conference: The ACC Football Podcast and the Hokie Hangover Podcast covering Virginia Tech athletics.
