2024 Hokies Preview Panel

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast.
Along with my partners Brian

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Siegler, Jonathan Tally and
Shelton Moss, I am Curtis Wilson

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and this episode is brought to
you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down

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at the Main Street pharmacy,
your friendly neighborhood

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pharmacy, three O 1 S Main St.,
Blacksburg, VA Gentlemen,

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tonight I think, as the kids
say, I think we got a banger

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absolute.
Banger I, I put it out there in

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the X sphere, the Twittersphere
earlier.

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Definitely one of my favorite
episodes that we do every year

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at this point.
This is now the third year in a

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row that we put this one
together.

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The 2024 preview panel.
It's right up there.

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We stated the program in the
lexicon of our episodes.

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It's something I get excited
about.

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We always have a drink.
So cheers, cheers, cheers.

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Look how far we done come.
I wouldn't even.

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I wouldn't even own the first
one.

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I know.
I don't even think I watched it.

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I think I I I watched it
afterwards, but I don't think I

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watched it live.
I wasn't on it.

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Hey, we were shooting bad.
What was that, 2022?

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That was a rough year, man.
Yeah, Hey, that was a rough

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year, man.
But guess what?

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We here now, baby 2024 preview
panel.

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We got Young Sheldon in the
building, Curtis in the

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building, Brian in the building
along with a heap of guests

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coming on.
I think everybody should be

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feeling good right now.
Yeah, man, we got a, we got a

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crew that's deep again.
We're rolling 10 deep with

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panelists this year.
We got 3 segments.

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We're going to kind of break
them down into kind of their own

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little, little themes here.
So me and Tally got the first

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segment coming up here in just a
moment.

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It's the fun Bunch 2024.
It's going to be a blast.

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Can't wait to introduce those
guests.

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Panel 2, we got Hokie's height
by the numbers.

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We're going to take a
statistical dive into kind of

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what the height for this 2024
season's all about.

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And then last but not least,
segment 3, What does being back

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look like?
And that we're just going to

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take a look when we see
something at some point in the

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future, What's what's that going
to look like?

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How what's it going to feel like
when the Hokies are finally back

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into that national relevance?
I feel like we're kind of

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climbing into that segment right
now.

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So fellas, how we feeling I.
Feel great, Feeling good.

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I feel great.
All right, all right.

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So what we're going to do, I'm
going to go ahead and Curtis

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Sheldon, we'll see you later.
We got there, we got there.

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All right, so without further
ado, let's introduce the

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panelists for the Fun Bunch 24
segment one.

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And we got to start with the guy
that helps us out here.

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He pays the bills.
He fills your pills.

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Your friendly neighborhood
pharmacist, Lord Doctor Jeremy

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counts.
Oh hey, hey everybody.

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It's good to be live.
I love it when we do this.

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He's back, he's ready.
He's got a drinking hand, he's

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got a absurd photo of himself in
the background.

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He is in his hall.
He is ready to accept the the

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court at his leisure.
Pay your fucking fealty.

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I'm a simple man, Brian.
Simple man.

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I just demand fealty.
And bows.

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Hey man, we'll see what we can
do.

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I got no problem on anything
that that he has to say, just

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let you know.
Next tonight, this man is the OG

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of Hokey Twitter.
He's the host of Virginia Tech

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is for Legends, and he is the
legend himself.

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VT4L.
Yes Sir, yes Sir.

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Give it up for Don V Vito.
How we doing?

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Good evening.
Good evening.

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Thanks for having me full gang
in the building.

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Jeremy, could they check my boy?
Every time you have money again,

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I will.
Every time I see shit, you know,

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every time I see you, man, I
have to take a double take.

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I'm used to the locks, man.
I'm used to the locks.

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And now what?
It's been like a year since you,

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since you had them, had them
cut.

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No, like five months.
Five months.

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So I'm still getting used to it.
Spring game on it like just

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before that.
Yeah, like a month before the

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spring game, Yeah.
I love it.

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Love it.
How you been living, Chief?

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Man bless Black and highly
favored my boy, you already know

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me.
There it is.

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Next up, this man needs no
introduction.

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He comes correct with great
video content.

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He gives even better takes.
He is the man, the myth, the

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legend, Grace and Wimbish.
Gentlemen, how we doing?

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It's great to be back for
another one.

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I appreciate you guys having me
very, very.

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Fired up having you on man.
Love having you on again.

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Had to had to bring you on for
the fun bunch because that's

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what you bring to the table.
You got fun energy, but you tell

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it like it is, and that's what
we like about you.

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Appreciate that.
Thank you.

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And last but certainly not
least, it's the big man on

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campus, Dan Pulse.
He hosts the Tales from the

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Terrordome podcast.
Give it Up for my Man Dan.

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So y'all how we living?
Living good man, living the

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dream.
I know you.

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Happy to be here.
What's everybody drinking on?

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Everybody got some some alcohol
in hand or we sipping on

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something different.
Oh yeah, I got a Parkway Get

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Been IPA because I'm vowing this
time for, you know, this is what

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#5 and every single time I get
completely blacked out drunk and

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this time I am going to go the
distance.

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Going the distance, he is not
going to distance you.

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Going to make it always time to
never.

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Go to the hell no, he ain't
making the distance.

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Hey, you might make it.
I got a corona over here till.

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Till we till we hit the end
stream thing tonight.

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Oh yeah, that's true.
Normally we go for like 3 hours

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straight on state of the program
and I'm just like pounding them

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the entire time.
Even when I moved to beer, I'm

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just blasted by the end of it.
Yeah, you either you either

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sucking back to J MO's or
you're, you're hitting some Ipas

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with a regular stream.
So.

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I can't.
Help myself.

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You can't, man.
You got to do it.

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We got we got some folks out
there in the the listing world,

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YouTube out there on Instagram
Twitter a little bit everywhere.

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So if y'all want to hit us up
ask some questions for the panel

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throw them in there We'll we'll
put them on the screen.

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We'll see what they got to say,
but you know let's start with

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something a little fun here.
We every year, you know what we

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haven't gotten it yet, but every
year we get these depth charts

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right we get these depth charts
for the first week of the season

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and everybody has a fucking
conniption right.

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So they they, they see a depth
chart, they're like, why is this

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person still starting?
Why, why is this person ahead of

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this person?
And, and, and like everybody has

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a freak out.
So, you know, we got a bunch of

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positions where there's some
battles, there's some guys that

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we kind of think you're kind of
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They're trying to get into that,
that next realm.

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All right, what players are
going to be week 1 starters in

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names on that first depth chart
where that or designation is

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doing a ton, a ton, a ton of
heavy lifting.

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And Dan, let's start with you.
Man, and I mean this with no

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disrespect, but Josh Fuga would
probably be the first name that

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comes to mind only because
Kamari Copeland, The hype is

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there this offseason.
He's putting up the numbers in

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the weight room.
He looks good out there on the

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field.
The way you know, JC likes to

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rotate players in and out.
We saw it last year.

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Will feel Darius pain.
He didn't start, but by the end

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of the season he was getting
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So if I had to guess, I would
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probably be the first person
that came out of my mouth on

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that.
Yeah.

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That was definitely one of the
names that popped into my mind

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too.
The hype behind Copeland is is

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so strong.
I mean, going out there,

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breaking the squat record,
coming in highly, you know,

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highly touted.
He had a interception in the

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spring game out there running
like a a linebacker playing

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defensive tackle.
So I mean, this guy kind of does

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a little bit of everything.
Grayson, what you got for us?

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I'm just more so curious.
I mean, I think offensively from

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a skill perspective, you kind of
know who's going to be out

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there.
But I, I think the obvious and

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again, no disrespect, the
obvious concern is the offensive

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line.
So I, I think it's going to be a

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matter of where guys are lining
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So you know, how much movement
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kind of performance against
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Will the coaches move, move the
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So I don't have any anyone
particular name, but it's maybe

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Caden Moore where we're going to
see him, Parker Clemens, where

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we going to see him?
Yeah, I, I think that's probably

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my biggest question mark, if you
will all.

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Right, Grayson focusing on the
offensive line.

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I always love that.
Yep.

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Veto.
Hold on, Hold on before we go to

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veto because yeah, yeah, these
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was real diplomatic and I
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But I want to throw something in
before we go to the next two

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guys because I feel like they
going to be a little bit more

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real.
Grayson, it ain't no I want to

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see the only all we need to see
by some of them offensive

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lineman names is you fucking
block somebody or you're going

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to work at Dick's Sporting
Goods.

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That's all we need to see.
Yes.

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Indeed.
My bad now, Vito, I'm sorry.

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You can ask Vito the question
you was asking Vito.

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How are you feeling about it?
Ask the question.

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Ask the question again.
Please.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got week 1 starters in

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name only.
Who's going to have that more

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designation that's doing a whole
lot of heavy lifting?

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OK the OR designation.
OK I just had to make sure I

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heard the thing right.
That's Benji guys nil.

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Benji guys nil.
I seen Nick Gallo on like pre

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season list.
No disrespect bro, I don't want

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to smoke Benji guys nil is my
answer.

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I don't want to smoke bro.
I ain't no mass.

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I ain't going to disrespect.
I'm all yours Benji guys, Nil is

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my answer.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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So what Vito's saying he thinks
Benji going to play, Nick's the

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one that's going to be on the
other side of the OR is going to

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be Benji playing.
Benji should be playing about

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that.
He's he's saying Nick's going to

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get that starting designation,
but that or going to really be,

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it's really Benji.
Shit if he's playing like he

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does in college football 25 he
going to win the Heisman.

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Don't let that college football
get you fucked up.

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Get your bets.
I'm just going to go ahead and

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tell y'all.
Ali Jennings already won the

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Heisman twice for me so and and
he only played one year.

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Man, I had I had David Balfour
out there throwing that thing

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like and running like Lamar
Jackson.

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So don't let that don't let that
college football get you messed

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up.
So no, the show man, I see, I

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see Will just hopped in shout
out to the people, man that's

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out there.
I know the hurricane been coming

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through.
My boy will he he he's on

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tonight.
Hurricane has been tan.

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I think it's in South Carolina.
So a lot of people have been

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dealing with that.
So, you know, prayers to them,

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people houses getting flooded
and cars floating away and stuff

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like that.
So y'all are praying people say

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a prayer for the people that's
been affected by the hurricane.

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Absolutely.
It feels like the the summer

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decided to give us all the rain
at one damn time and and did not

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spread it out at all this year.
So it's hitting a lot of people

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tough.
So yeah, keep them in your

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thoughts out there before we
move on.

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Jeremy, what do you, what do you
got on this?

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Who's who's got that or
designation that really should

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be that starter?
Man y'all want a real answer and

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none of us know fucking shit
like.

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This is just.
Fucking started.

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We don't know who's going to
show out.

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We don't know who's going to be
a fucking gamer out there.

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We don't know what's that?
Well, you know, we're talking

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about Copeland.
There's a ton of hype.

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You know, he did those fucking
squats.

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I what's it fucking matter if it
doesn't translate the God damn

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field?
Like what's it fucking matter?

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Like the offensive line is my
biggest concern as a unit, but

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you never know if they took a
step forward.

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You don't know what's going on
in the weight room.

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We're sitting around like, who's
going to overtake this?

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We don't fucking know.
So that's my answer.

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None of us fucking know.
That's a pretty good answer.

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But most of the time I was about
to say, when you see somebody

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play for six years and they
ain't blocked nobody for six

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years, and then they go to the
spring game and somebody puts

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them in a blender every play and
then they get punched in the

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face in the first practice, they
might not need to be the

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starter.
I'm just saying that's just my

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opinion.
We got the.

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Footage.
We got the footage bro.

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There is documentation for some
of these folks now.

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It's a new year a.
New year and steps get taken,

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but.
I hope you, I hope you got room

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for stalkers over there at the
at the pharmacy, because some of

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them, some of them lineman, if
they don't fucking block, they

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going to be overnight stocking
for you.

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I'm telling you.
You need some new pharmacy tax.

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It's common.
I could use a few.

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Well, depends on how they play.
I mean, who says that Jeremy

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will hire them?
That's good.

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That's true too.
Go.

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Get a job.
I'm a.

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Spiteful fucking creature.
I'm a very spiteful creature.

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Yep, we know.
Yeah, I would hire you, but you

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missed that block against Miami,
so.

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Fuck it up.
Yeah.

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No.
Yeah.

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You remember what happened.
You remember whenever you that

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Kyron got hit that hard?
Yeah.

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No, I don't think so.
No, I, I I could see a few

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things with the offensive line.
That's my biggest concern.

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But also, it's hard to say in a
lot of ways with offensive line

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because it's it's a unit that
needs to be cohesive and if

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there's one breakdown, everyone
can look bad.

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It's hard with swapping in and
out on the offensive line.

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But of course there are some
people who very obviously miss

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blocks and you've got to take
care of it.

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But that unit more than any
other unit, I think is hard to

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gauge whenever you're just
swapping in and out.

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But we'll see.
That's my biggest concern,

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though, is the offensive line.
Yeah, when we look at the

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offensive side of the ball,
that's definitely going to be

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the biggest concern.
You know, when we look at the

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the depth that's returning, I
mean, you, you we pretty much

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returning the entire skill
position players less, you know,

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maybe Daquan, right?
It it, it's going to be

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something of can.
Does the offensive line look

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demonstrably better than they
did last year?

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Do they do anything different?
Are they, are they nastier?

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That's what that's kind of what
I'm looking for.

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Do we have a little bit more dog
in us on the offensive line?

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We started seeing some of that
come to fruition as the season

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went on.
Last year is the the start of

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the year.
It was rough.

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Kyron came in.
I think that he brought a little

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bit more mentality to that room,
a little bit more leadership in

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terms of being a leader on the
field, in terms of leading by

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example.
And I think they fed off that

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energy a little bit.
And we'll see if that kind of

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carried over into the offseason.
We'll see if the coaches coached

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him up on that aspect of it as
well.

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He's also really fucking hard to
tackle, so that makes their job

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a little easier.
So he's going to make any

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offensive lines job just a
little bit easier.

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But yeah, they they've got to
step up this year because we

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could have all these great skill
positions.

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We have Kyron out there just
bombing it and just running like

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trucking people.
But what's it fucking matter if

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we can't block?
You can't.

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You can't be running drones the
way you ran him last year.

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No, it's not sustainable.
And definitely not the way you

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ran it against Tulane in the
bowl game, because that was

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well.
The the weather.

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I know, I know, I know.
The conditions impacted that a

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bunch.
You couldn't, you couldn't

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really sling it around very
much.

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But he carried that load.
But he ended up pulling it out

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for us.
But Sally, what you got?

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So yeah, I was just going to
kind of go to veto and ask him.

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I know last time he was on,
which like I said, it was 2022,

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they took y'all asked him a
couple questions and he talked

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about, you know what, what game
would he gauge the team by?

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And I think he he went with ODU
first and a lot of people kind

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of, you know, shook their heads
so didn't understand what he

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said.
He had a couple of other ones in

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there but ODU, which was really
good answer.

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I think Dwight was the only one
who kind of agreed.

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And maybe Jay Glock was like,
yeah, you know, I can kind of

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see that.
But you were real high on that

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veto when you talked about what
team you would look at or what

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game you would look at and be
like, OK, that lets me know what

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kind of team we got.
So I'm going to go ahead and ask

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you again, kind of, you know,
what game in the first half of

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the season this year are you
looking at?

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What you going to be like?
Hey, this set the expectation

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for the rest of the season.
Yeah, when I was on 20/22, I

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think the question was what's
the biggest game of the year?

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That's probably what led to the
laughing because everybody was

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saying whoever they thought was
our biggest opponent.

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And my logic was none of them
games matter if we look like how

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we look versus ODU, which turned
out to be true.

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So that that's what that was.
That's pretty much what the

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question was.
What were the biggest games?

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I think I said Liberty.
We won that one.

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I said like Liberty, ODU and
somebody else.

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You said North Carolina State as
well.

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I.
Probably did.

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So yeah, that's my logic at the
time was the Fuente era at the

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end even versus the Richmonds
and them game was a toss up.

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They lost even lost some of
them.

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So I know the beginning of the
Brent Pryor era was the Fuente.

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It was a lot of Fuente people
and stuff involved.

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So now we prove treat the whole
like a hoe like we we whooped

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ODU last year.
So it ain't no ODU this year.

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It's Rutgers.
I don't helmet watch like I

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don't look at Rutgers and say
Virginia Tech should beat

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Rutgers as it went.
No, hell no.

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Rutgers smacked the shit out of
this last year.

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So I would say Rutgers.
Most Virginia Tech fans that's

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not tapped in probably think
another dud, but hell no.

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Rutgers is well coached,
physical discipline don't do

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nothing to lose games and
that'll be the guy.

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I think it's September the 21st
or the 27th.

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You will know everything you
need to know if if.

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At home we get punched in the
face and you see them fold.

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It'll be a long season, so.
Rutgers, Yeah, yeah.

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Then even go with that, you know
what I'm saying?

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I mean, real good answer because
not only that, even if you go

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out and you play a team like a
Rutgers and you go out there and

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you have a physical game because
they going to give you a

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physical game, you know what I'm
saying?

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So that means your depth is
going to have to come into play,

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you know what I'm saying?
That means that people that's

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second and third in line is
going to have to be ready to

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play because when you play a
team like Rutgers, that's

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something you can feel the next
week and guess who you got the

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next week after you play
Rutgers, Whether you win or lose

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that game, you got to go and you
got to go play Miami.

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You know what I'm saying?
So perfect answer.

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You know what I'm saying?
There ain't no wrong answer, but

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that's a real good answer
because Rutgers is one of those

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teams.
Again, if you just helmet

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watcher, you just, you know,
take a look at the schedule and

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say I know we going to win all
these games.

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Like, Nah, man, Rutgers, A-Team,
like Rutgers, knowing they

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coached his background, knowing
what they gave, like I think

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they had 35 passing yards last
year and beat us handily like 35

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to 16 or something.
So.

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Their quarterback and running
back ran all over our.

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Ass Last year, I just remember
whatever his name is, Kyle

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Menungi Menungi, whatever his
name is, it was like a third and

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one and he ran for like 52
yards.

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Like you're not supposed to be
like you're not supposed to be

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doing that.
You know what I'm saying on the

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third and one like you supposed
to get that 2 yards and then

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y'all run the next play.
Now they they they they out for

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blood.
So the same way that people.

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Are.
Yeah, but the same, in the same

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way that, you know, some of us
fans are looking at stuff and

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saying all these people are
putting us as you know, sleepers

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for ACC Championship or, or
sleepers for, you know, playoffs

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and stuff.
I don't look at a lot of stuff.

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And they got Rutgers on that
too.

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They're like, oh, this is my
sleepless team.

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So yeah, Rutgers is going to be
a team to watch out for.

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Yeah, I, I know a guy who I,
he's a, he's a pharmacist.

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He went to Rutgers and big name
in the pharmacy industry and he

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has already been texting me
talking shit about it.

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So they're feeling pretty
fucking confident.

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Rutgers, I think Vito's right.
I think that is going to be the

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biggest one.
If we go and we handle that and

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we're undefeated, rolling into
Miami and Miami still good.

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If we can be the team that
knocks Miami off their peg, then

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I will think we're legit.
If Miami's got a good season

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rolling, they've got all that
talent and it's actually

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clicking for them and we're the
team that comes down and smacks

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them in the mouth and shuts them
the fuck up.

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That's when I know we're legit.
You got to handle business at

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Rutgers.
But then, yeah, then go to, I

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mean, that, that three-game
stretch, right there's, I mean,

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that's kind of coffin corner
early in the season because then

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after Miami, you're flying
across the country to

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California.
And I mean, Stanford, you know,

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everyone wants to talk about
they're not going to be a great

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team and who cares?
It's a three hour time

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difference.
This is our first regular season

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game.
We're playing in California.

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You don't know what that's going
to do to us.

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So Rutgers, Miami, Stanford.
That's Coffin Corner.

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Yes, Stanford's going to be the
interesting one because I mean,

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on paper that's a dub, but
there's so many like factors

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that play into how that game can
go down because of the travel.

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You never really played this
opponent before, not recently.

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The only other matchup that I
can recall is the against Andrew

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Luck in the bowl game.
So I mean, it's it's basically a

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brand new opponent.
You're coming off a physical

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Rutgers team and probably at
least on the front half of the

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schedule, the best, most
talented team that you'll play

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in Miami taking that trip.
So even if you come out good on

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those two, it's a prime setup
for a let down game, right?

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So.
You know well, listen.

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Those are going to be the
interesting ones there.

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Now listen, this is not a
question that is on anything.

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I just want to throw this out
because I got you fine gentleman

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00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,640
on here.
We've mentioned a couple of

450
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,400
schools, we mentioned Rutgers,
Miami, Stanford.

451
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,000
I know a lot of y'all go to
games and have seen games or you

452
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,800
know, even look at games on TV.
So I'm going to ask this

453
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,800
question out of the people that
we play, who has the best

454
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,800
looking fan base?
Whether you like men or women?

455
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,760
I'm not no judge.
I'm just saying who do we play

456
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,360
that has the best looking fan
base?

457
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:46,360
Dan, you got to go, man.
Of course it's going to be Dan.

458
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,280
Come on, Dan, don't be scared.
Wholesome Dan lead off bitch.

459
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,200
Yeah, who got the out of the
opponents?

460
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,200
Marshall.
Right.

461
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520
Who we play, man, I said.
Men or women?

462
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,320
Hey, no, Marshall got.
Some sneaky.

463
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,920
Marshall got some sneaky ones,
but I mean, people probably want

464
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,160
you to say Miami, but I don't
know if it's really Miami, you

465
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,360
know, like who could?
I don't know.

466
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,400
I'm sure Stanford's got some
really nice girls.

467
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Dang, you got to pick one, man,
I said.

468
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,080
One.
We kind of move quick, pick one

469
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,600
team.
You want us to come back to you?

470
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
He's you can't do that Grayson.

471
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800
Grayson, who got the.
You know what, I I like that

472
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400
answer.
Selfishly it's it's I would say

473
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Clemson Southern girls, man,
they're beautiful.

474
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,920
Shout out to the Clemson Tigers.
Great you.

475
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Have a You have a a conflicting
relationship with that Clemson

476
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,360
fan base.
Hey man, we'll get into that

477
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,480
fuck.
Clemson.

478
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,280
Hey, listen, let Jeremy not
it's.

479
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Going to be SMU Well.
We're playing Clemson, have

480
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,080
never done one thing wrong to
me.

481
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,400
They.
They wouldn't have dancing.

482
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Tech girls are different.
We'll talk about that, all

483
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,880
right.
You know what you got to say,

484
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,800
man?
Stanford made an All American

485
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,920
linebacker crash out for an
invisible chick.

486
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,760
He could have.
He could have smashed anything

487
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,760
in the country.
It's easily standard.

488
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,440
I wasn't expecting that, but
that's actually pretty a pretty

489
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,360
good go ahead.
And shut it down.

490
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Go ahead and shut it down.
Well, I mean, we got to ask.

491
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,640
We got to ask Jeremy just
because he hears Jeremy.

492
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Come on, give us an answer.
What you got to say?

493
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,480
All of them.
Fucks are ugly.

494
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Are you seriously we're playing
them?

495
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960
What do I fucking care what they
look like?

496
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Fuck all.
Them.

497
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,200
Man, I give a shit about US
winning.

498
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200
I don't give a shit what their
fan base looks like.

499
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,840
They're all shitty to me.
Fuck, I want to win.

500
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,280
Hey.
That's a happily married man

501
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,480
right there.
Hey, that's a.

502
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,040
That's a that's a good answer,
Emily.

503
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,920
'S hot as shit.
I am fuck about these like girls

504
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280
that are going to these games
don't know shit about fuck, fuck

505
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760
them.
Well, well, Jeremy, listen,

506
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000
that's, that's good, man.
I'm glad we got you riled up

507
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,440
because I got one that I got to
ask you.

508
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,840
This is specific to you.
So you, you came right in on

509
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,920
time.
We know that you right in the

510
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,840
middle of Blacksburg.
Thank you for your service.

511
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,120
You over there at the at the
pharmacy doing your thing.

512
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,800
Don't pop another one just yet.
Slow down.

513
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280
But anyway, we know that you're
in there every day.

514
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,800
We know you're getting the vibes
in Blacksburg every day.

515
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Us as fans, you know, we get the
preseason hype or hopium every

516
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,400
year.
Every year we say this is it,

517
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,360
this is it.
You know, we we going to be good

518
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,760
this year or you know, so if
this person take this step.

519
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,600
So my question to you is we
getting some hype this year and

520
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,720
what do you feel like the do you
feel it's true hype vibes around

521
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Blacksburg or do you feel like
it's we gaslight, how's it been

522
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,760
in Blacksburg?
I will tell you why.

523
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,560
It's real hot vibes because
people are scared that the hype

524
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280
is this much.
Normally during this time we

525
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
I've got people coming in,
they're buying in so much that

526
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560
all the the talk, the preseason
talk, all the hype, they're

527
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760
really high on the opium and
they're coming in and they're

528
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,080
talking about it and they're
really up now.

529
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600
I get that.
But there's like this level of

530
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,480
seriousness to it.
Like, are we seriously going to

531
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,200
do this?
Like I, I think it makes sense

532
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,800
in my brain, but I've been hurt
before.

533
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,240
There's like this level of
seriousness to the conversation

534
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,840
that hasn't been there for a
while.

535
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520
So people are hyped and they are
legitimately hyped.

536
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Like it's making sense to them
logically.

537
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,960
It's not just all emotional.
And they're kind of reconciling

538
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,080
that and bringing it out and
they don't know how to feel

539
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840
about it because we've been hurt
so many times.

540
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
That's how I know it's real.
Well, I kind of came up with

541
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,360
that.
Yeah.

542
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640
That's why where I kind of came
up with that from is because I

543
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,440
can remember like one of the
things that sticks out to me is

544
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
like when we had David Wilson
and, you know, ESPN came and

545
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,640
they was following him around,
you know, showing his car and

546
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,520
kind of what he was doing on his
day-to-day.

547
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Like that's not manufactured.
That's not fake hype, you know

548
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
what I'm saying?
Like that was real national

549
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,880
hype.
You know, I've been seeing Kyron

550
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520
out with with with Sanders and
and, and Ward and they've been,

551
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,640
you know, working out all
offseason.

552
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,280
And then you see the receivers
working out with them as well.

553
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560
And then you see these people
that starting to come in and,

554
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,760
you know, want to interview and
want to see kind of what our

555
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,680
stars look like and, you know,
what they have outside of just

556
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,880
playing.
So I feel like that hype was

557
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,760
real too.
But again, I'm not there in

558
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Blacksburg.
So I did kind of want to ask

559
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
you, you know what I'm saying,
how you felt about it.

560
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Anybody else got anything added
on that?

561
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,000
It's it's full on that and then
it's a follow up with do you

562
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,400
think the offensive line will
hold up?

563
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,640
So yes, there are.
There are.

564
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,040
Concerns and it's normally the
offensive line.

565
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,680
Yep.
That checks that checks.

566
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Let's let's throw one out since
we're talking about kind of the

567
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,120
players and and the process.
I think the big thing that we've

568
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,880
seen with this staff since they
came in, when we talk about the

569
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,000
vibes, just the feeling around
is that, you know, we got a

570
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,840
renewed commitment to focusing
on recruiting the state of

571
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Virginia, the footprint in
general with the state of state

572
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,840
of Virginia in particular.
And most of you guys that are on

573
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,800
the panel have Virginia roots,
right?

574
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:33,280
So has this renewed focus on the
state of Virginia made y'all

575
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,360
more invested in the recruiting
process?

576
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200
And Vito, let's lead out with
you on this one.

577
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,920
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, definitely I was.

578
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,840
I'm always invested in the
recruiting process.

579
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,800
I always say it.
I always, I always say

580
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,120
recruiting got to make sense.
You can't just throw darts at a

581
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
map and just say hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey.

582
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,840
I'm not even the stars person.
A lot of people think I'm a

583
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,800
stars person because I'm a 757
person.

584
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720
I'm not just talent is talent.
Like you can look, you can.

585
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,760
You don't need to watch hours of
film to know if somebody can

586
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520
play or not.
So if the recruitment makes

587
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,320
sense and it's within the
footprint, it all makes sense to

588
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560
me.
Nice, Jeremy, what you got?

589
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
See, I'm kind of conflicted on
this because I want us to have

590
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040
those great relationships in
state.

591
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,720
I want us to go to these high
schools and I want to bring our

592
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,920
kids in and I want us to, if
there is a quality player in

593
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000
this state, I want them to go to
Vt because that is the school

594
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,760
that you go to if you're a
football player in Virginia.

595
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
That being said, I don't give 2
fucking fucks where we get our

596
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,160
players from.
I just want to win, you know?

597
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,360
I don't give a shit if Texas to
Vt worked and it was actually a

598
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,720
fucking thing.
I wouldn't care as long as we

599
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,320
were winning.
But yes, on another level, I

600
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,000
think it's really good that we
make these in roads because I

601
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680
want us to get good players and
I don't want them to have to

602
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,440
leave because we should have
that pipeline and that

603
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
pipeline's fucking important.
That's why I care.

604
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,120
In the grand scheme of things.
On like a emotional level, I

605
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,040
don't give a shit.
On intellectual level, I don't

606
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,960
give a shit except for the fact
that we need those pipelines.

607
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Hey, Grace.
You do, Grace.

608
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,200
Before you go, are you, are you
counting the, the, the bucks

609
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
that are that are going on At
this point you got a little

610
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,480
tally.
Sheet counting them.

611
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,720
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to
designate you.

612
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
We got about 20 right now,
anywhere between 20 and 25.

613
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,160
If we don't get to 50 by the end
of segment one, we're doing

614
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,040
something wrong.
I'm going to get another

615
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,440
postcard again.
I'm going to get another

616
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,840
postcard telling me to not
sponsor this podcast because it

617
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,240
curses too much because I was
the one cursing on the podcast

618
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,840
and that person didn't realize.
That's what it's about.

619
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,600
All right, Lean in, lean in,
Germ.

620
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,240
The answer to this question is
1,000,000%.

621
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Yes.
I've started caring more because

622
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,360
listen, y'all, I don't know if
you heard recently Coach Pride

623
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
came out and he was talking
about how when he was at Penn

624
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,840
State, that staff under James
Franklin when he was DC, they

625
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,480
knew that any kid from the
Commonwealth of Virginia, they

626
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,000
could pick handpick and they
would get him because the

627
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,040
previous regime they just they
just how do I say this nicely

628
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,480
didn't.
Do a good job, didn't give a

629
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,680
fuck.
Pardon my French, I don't cuss

630
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160
on podcasts a lot, but they
didn't give a fuck.

631
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,960
So now you have three of the top
15 kids in the Commonwealth of

632
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Virginia and Fontel Mines is out
here cooking with Jim

633
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Kavanaugh's grill seasoning.
Yeah, you bet your ass I care.

634
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,120
That means something to me.
Sorry that.

635
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Was beautifully put.
That was beautifully put.

636
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What you got?

637
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400
I mean, if we're being honest,
the fact that we even have to

638
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,280
think about this shit is crazy.
Like we should just recruit

639
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,520
Virginia.
Like it should have always just

640
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520
been like, hey, you catch
Virginia Tech, you fucking

641
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,200
recruit Virginia.
Like that's it.

642
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,080
Like we shouldn't even be like,
man, really glad we're back in

643
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,840
Virginia now.
Like we should have just always

644
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,320
been here.
Yeah, obviously.

645
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960
The school resides in we're
we're recruiting the fuck out of

646
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480
it now.
Yeah, like I like, I like the

647
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,120
fact that we're like, we're
doing it.

648
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,120
I definitely my, I think the
fact that we recruit Virginia

649
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,080
also coincides with the fact
that I have my own goddamn

650
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,520
podcast.
And I, it mean content is

651
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,960
content.
So if you keep up with

652
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,639
recruiting, you should talk
about when there's nothing going

653
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,040
on.
So I think like, hey, it goes

654
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,120
hand in hand.
But yeah, I'm definitely way

655
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,080
more invested probably than it
should be, to be honest.

656
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,719
But yeah.
All right, so I think we've held

657
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,440
our load in long enough.
We're going to get to this

658
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,679
question.
And I know, I know everyone here

659
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,960
is excited about it.
We don't want to get our head

660
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,800
ahead of ourselves with
predictions yet.

661
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,360
But looking at that Clemson game
in November, what's the over

662
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,520
under on how many times Jeremy
yells at Dabo to fuck himself

663
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,720
with the new Spring hymnal on
November 9th?

664
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Whatever it is, Amber, the over,
whatever.

665
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,400
It is.
I don't know what y'all talking

666
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,200
about I am a sweet innocent
Jeremy and in the stands now I

667
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,920
shout very nice very nice
insults to the refs now because

668
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,440
I offended a lot of old people
in the West stands.

669
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,880
So I moved to the east stands
because I offended so many old

670
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,960
people in the West stands and
it's just a better environment

671
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:40,280
for me but I still watch it now.
Now I yell that the the

672
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,640
referee's wife has overcooked
chicken and people are

673
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,680
snickering about it behind her
her back.

674
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:55,680
Now I yell that the referee's
mother is actually not all that

675
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,560
pretty.
I don't scream obscenities at

676
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,720
ball games anymore.
Has a child.

677
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560
I am doing better.
I am doing better because I've

678
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640
embarrassed him.
Before father Good screaming.

679
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,080
Suck my Dick, I'll murder your
family over and.

680
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,280
Over do we genuinely like?
Elderly people around me.

681
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
So do we genuinely not like
Clemson or do we just not like

682
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,120
them because they win?
Like, why don't we like?

683
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,120
Fucking hate Clemson.
No, no, no you don't.

684
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,920
You got to understand what it
was like during that ball game

685
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,760
where they came to fucking
Blacksburg and it's like

686
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840
everything shifted.
Everything shifted.

687
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,600
They were suddenly the team to
beat and it stayed that way.

688
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600
They rolled into Blacksburg and
they fucking had our number.

689
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,240
And ever since then it's been
that way.

690
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,920
Just because they're winning, I
don't give a fuck.

691
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,760
They could not have national
champions.

692
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,760
They could not have this or
that.

693
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,360
They could not have a terrible
God damn entrance that everyone

694
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,320
hops up.
They could not have stupid

695
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960
fucking fans and half of them
are just fucking bandwagon ass

696
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960
fucking fans.
They could not have some of the

697
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,120
dumbest fucking God damn people
on earth.

698
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,760
They could not have a charlatan
head coach that uses pseudo

699
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,520
religion as a fucking
recruitment model.

700
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,880
They could have not have all
those things and I'd still

701
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,040
fucking hate them because they
were the the team that beat us

702
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,080
at that point where everything
felt like it shifted.

703
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400
So fuck them.
I will fucking hate them.

704
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,880
And I don't have to put fucking
words on it, labels on it.

705
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,880
I don't have to do anything.
I can just fucking feel my

706
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160
emotions.
I have something to talk about.

707
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Clemson, I have something to do.
You know it.

708
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,600
I know what.
If you ask me on Twitter.

709
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,960
News, how I feel about the
Tigers.

710
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,280
Let me just say this really
quickly in the off chance that

711
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,480
this man is listening right now,
the ACC Network and Eric McClain

712
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,680
were in Blacksburg this week.
Eric, I got nothing but respect

713
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
for you.
I think you're you're the man.

714
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,120
The way you kind of put on from
Virginia Tech.

715
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,760
I think you like what we got
going on.

716
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,880
So respect to Eric.
Eric makes Clemson kind of hard

717
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,200
to hate his head ball coach on
the other hand, to Jeremy's

718
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,040
point, makes it very easy.
I will never me personally, I

719
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,400
will never be able to prove the
new spring money laundering and

720
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,800
I know that I drive hokey fans
crazy with that.

721
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,800
You can't.
You can't audit a church.

722
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,120
That's why it's so fucking
genius and that's why he's so

723
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,600
mad that he doesn't have the
best game anymore because we got

724
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000
in IL.
He can't do that anymore.

725
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Jeremy, what?
What does God's NIL stand for?

726
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,480
New Spring isn't liable, is
that?

727
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Is that what that stands for?
Because like before NIL was in

728
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,480
place, God's NIL.
You know, how did Trevor

729
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,720
Lawrence and Travis Etienne show
up in 2020 with Louis Vuitton

730
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:44,240
bags and $1000 top coats?
Hey, listen, you don't make that

731
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,360
money working at the campus
bookstore.

732
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,280
Where does it come from?
Maybe an offering plate.

733
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
And the pastor loves to shake
hands with the congregation when

734
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,560
those guys are are there on
Sundays.

735
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,240
So my problem with Dabo is he
preaches his gospel and it.

736
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:06,360
But if that was really actually
going on under the table, I hate

737
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,640
you like I you're not the guy
you say you are.

738
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,880
So he's the worst kind of con
man.

739
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,600
He's a con man that uses fucking
religion to get money out of

740
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,720
people's pockets.
He's the worst kind of fucking

741
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:19,640
person.
And Dabo, if you ever hear this,

742
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,640
fuck you.
To finish my point, finish real

743
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,720
quick in summation, gentlemen, I
also share the sentiment with

744
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,520
Jeremy.
We ruled the roost, the roads,

745
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,640
the ACC went through Blacksburg
for so long.

746
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,960
And then finally there was that
shift where they took over and

747
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,520
they ruled the roost for way too
long to the point where it

748
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,040
became annoying.
And now I'm like, dude, we're

749
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,960
done with you.
Well, Hokies are back up, let's

750
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600
go.
And that's how everyone else

751
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
should feel.
So I'm done, I'm done.

752
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,640
End of that round.
All right, tally what you got

753
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,320
for him.
I was just going, hey man, they

754
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,160
just gave me a lot.
I just was going to ask Vito

755
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,120
that he have anybody that he
hate like that.

756
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,520
I mean, because I ain't got that
much hatred for nobody.

757
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560
So I'll go ask Vito that he have
anybody he hate like this.

758
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680
I don't hate Clemson, bro.
I don't get mad bro.

759
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,560
I get money.
We won't what they got.

760
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,560
So why would I hate like you
become what you hate?

761
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120
So why would I hate Clemson?
We want to be Clemson.

762
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,760
Nobody on the Clemson podcast is
doing a segment about Virginia

763
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Tech right now.
Fair.

764
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,760
Is there any?
Is there any fan base?

765
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,640
They put it out.
They were like, oh, Virginia

766
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,320
Tech might upset us.
So I mean.

767
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,040
They actually talk about our
shit all the time.

768
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,600
They get so fucking worked up
over it because there before

769
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,240
they were, yes we were there
before they were there.

770
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,560
They hate any mention of us
being even close to legitimate.

771
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,520
Again, they can't fucking stand
it.

772
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,960
On top of that, if you start
talking entrances, they get

773
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,840
their fucking pants and he's in
such a wad they cannot handle

774
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,880
it.
It is incredible.

775
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Yeah, they talk about us a lot.
Fuck them people.

776
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,840
Hey, so.
We get to settle it on the

777
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,280
field.
So yeah.

778
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920
So we won't like we got to.
Plan.

779
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
I was going to say, man, we
going to see them.

780
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,560
They come into the house this
year.

781
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,800
So that's going to be, you know
what I'm saying, all hands on

782
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,080
deck.
We need to go out there and do

783
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,120
what we got to do and and show
them that we back if that's what

784
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,640
it is.
Speaking of that, I'll just ask

785
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,800
this question because we was
kind of tipping around what

786
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,120
number or if Blank improves, the
Hoagies will win 10 games.

787
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,280
So what room, what room needs to
improve for us to win 10 games?

788
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,360
The offensive line, our skill
positions could be just flat

789
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600
this next year and if the
offensive line improves, we win

790
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,200
10.
Games.

791
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Yeah, that's that's the answer
to the question.

792
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:02,400
We have depth at every position
on the team except offensive

793
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480
line.
And as the season progresses,

794
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,600
y'all, it's only going to get
more difficult as you get into

795
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,440
the meat and potatoes of our
schedule.

796
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440
And all things considered, we
have an easy schedule.

797
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,640
We play Clemson that we just
talked about on November 9th.

798
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,680
If you don't go in that into
that game in Lane Stadium with a

799
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,120
healthy, cohesive offensive
line, their defensive line is

800
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,680
going to eat our lunch.
And and so you like, it's just

801
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,520
what it is.
They get great defensive lineman

802
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,440
and it's not just them, dude.
Even Rutgers, like you have to

803
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,760
build that chemistry and they
have to stay healthy.

804
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,440
You got it.
That receiver, running back, QB,

805
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,320
you got it.
That linebacker, defensive back,

806
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,560
everywhere.
Defensive line.

807
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,640
You got it everywhere except the
offensive.

808
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Line, Dan, what you say?
Defensive line can't stop the

809
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,520
run.
I don't give a shit about

810
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,200
weightlifting records.
You got to stop the run.

811
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680
RDBS are good.
Make them pass the ball, get

812
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,360
some picks, pick sixes, short
field, can't stop the run.

813
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,400
Doesn't really matter, you're
playing from behind the whole

814
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,200
time.
Dan, are you saying that you're

815
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,760
concerned with the defensive
line?

816
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,400
Because that's one of the units
I was the least concerned about.

817
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
No, I'm saying like it looks
good right now, but it's got to

818
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
show up.
Yeah, that's true.

819
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,000
We don't know shit.
And that's what we said, just

820
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,560
that the question was what, what
room needed to improve for us to

821
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,960
get to the 10 like so Vito
again, right, A lot on the

822
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,360
field.
Yeah.

823
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,920
Yeah, squad 680 lbs.
But we need to stop the run.

824
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
You see what I'm saying?
Got to happen.

825
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,280
I, I, I, I go away from
everybody else and I just say

826
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,560
quarterbacks, OK.
At this point, everybody knows

827
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,440
Karen Jones is a dual threat
quarterback.

828
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Everybody knows that.
Our OPS know it.

829
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,720
We know it.
So at this point, if Karen Jones

830
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:59,480
can up his game to another
level, then we'll win the 10

831
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,120
even with offensive line
problems.

832
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,080
Yeah, true.
Well, that's The thing is, even

833
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,920
if they know him, he's a dual
threat quarterback.

834
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,280
That's a great thing about
Kyron.

835
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,280
He's a fucking tank and we
shouldn't rely on that too much.

836
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,320
I don't want what happened to
Draw to happen to him that where

837
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,040
he's just getting beat up so
much.

838
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,280
I don't want that to happen.
But the great thing is, is if

839
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,000
something breaks down we can at
least rely on him to get

840
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200
something done because he's just
so hard to bring down.

841
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,640
And they can game plan for it as
much as you can, but good luck

842
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,400
fucking stopping it when he's
got a good like a full head of

843
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,120
steam coming at him.
This.

844
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Season makes me think y'all of
like the 2009, 2010 team with

845
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Tyrod Taylor where that those
offensive lines, all things

846
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,560
considered were not that good,
but the superior talent around

847
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,800
Tyrod Taylor and on that on
those defenses at that point it

848
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,280
didn't really matter.
You know, we we were still

849
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,480
winning games because of just
Jarrett Boykin and Danny Cole

850
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,840
and Ryan Williams and Darren,
well, Darren Evans in 2009.

851
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,640
But yeah, like you didn't really
have to think about it.

852
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,720
Yeah, since we're talking.
About dudes we're.

853
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Plays that broke down, that's
what like if you remember during

854
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,760
that time period, it wasn't like
these awesome design plays where

855
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Tyrod showed up.
It were they were plays that

856
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,520
just full on broke down and we
won with our straight up fucking

857
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,360
athleticism.
Tyrod would pull some shit and

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,520
just fling it and things would
happen.

859
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,120
He would have made so many
people.

860
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,080
It wasn't like this great design
we were for the longest time.

861
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,360
I feel like coasting on having
superior athletes and things

862
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,360
like tie rod and I.
I think we're really coming a

863
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,200
long way as far as putting a
good game design together,

864
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,160
getting the right people into a
system, because I loved what we

865
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,480
were doing under under Frank.
But there was always talk on

866
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,800
what we were doing offensively
because a lot of times we didn't

867
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,120
have the greatest game plan.
And of course back then it was a

868
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,280
little more, you know, you're on
the edge of the unknown at that

869
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,920
point with what you do with dual
threat quarterbacks.

870
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,320
We didn't have a lot of proof of
concept even in the tie rod

871
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,640
days.
We definitely didn't have it in

872
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,400
the big days.
He revolutionized the entire

873
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,920
game.
But now you can game plan for

874
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,040
him and you can actually put
this offenses around, especially

875
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,600
with the RPO system.
But it's hard with someone like

876
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Drones to stop that when it's
coming down, and it's good to

877
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,520
have that again.
But we can't have that wear and

878
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,720
tear on them.
We can't have it.

879
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,920
That's why the offensive line's
so important, because we can't

880
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,360
have them get beat up.
And as much as I loved back

881
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,360
then, whenever Tyrod make all
these awesome plays by evading

882
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,240
everyone, Drones isn't going to
be able to do that.

883
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,360
He's going to be taking hits
whenever those plays breakdown.

884
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,800
That's why it's different and we
can have a ton of great

885
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,600
athletes, but he's still going
to be taking these hits and we

886
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,960
need to limit those hits because
it's it's not like back then

887
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,280
because of that.
He's big, he's elusive, but he

888
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,880
doesn't have that quickness
that.

889
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Like Tyrod had.
Well, that's why I think what

890
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Vito said, yeah, I think that's
why what Vito said makes so much

891
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,480
sense because even when you do
have a bad offensive line and

892
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,200
they just like he had a bad
offensive line last year, he was

893
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
still making the throws.
He was still evading people who

894
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,480
still scoring.
So yeah, we don't want him to

895
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,560
take those hits because we want
him to be healthy and we want

896
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,680
him to up his stock so he can go
to the NFL.

897
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,360
So if he UPS his game like Vito,
like Vito's here, he can speak

898
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,160
for himself.
But.

899
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,880
What I mean by up his game, I
don't mean by doing more the

900
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,920
same shit I mean by making more
Reeves, getting the ball out

901
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
better, getting the ball out
accurately, regressing as a

902
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,640
passer, not running more or
running over people.

903
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Yeah, hit his windows.
He hit his Windows, man.

904
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,040
He hit a couple of the passes
that we missed.

905
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Got a little bit better options
out there.

906
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Not options, but a little bit
more experience.

907
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,880
Ali coming back, man, you, you
just never know what will

908
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,600
happen.
So I was thinking more like

909
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,120
linebacker for that answer, but
that's actually a pretty good

910
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,160
answer.
What Vito came.

911
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,520
I mean, everybody's answer was
good.

912
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,680
No wrong answer there.
What I'm hearing though is we

913
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,920
got some good stuff going.
We just need everybody to stay

914
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,680
healthy and keep keep moving
forward.

915
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Brian, what you got for us?
Yeah.

916
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
I think we're going to kind of
wrap up this segment with this

917
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,560
one.
So we had a lot, lots of

918
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,520
positive things happening this
offseason.

919
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Yeah, you got new uniform
release.

920
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,160
You got, you know, fan
appreciation day just went down.

921
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,680
We got to play as the Hokies in
college football. 25, something

922
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,800
we haven't done in over a
decade.

923
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,440
And of course, you know, there's
been a lot of cool content

924
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,720
coming out of Hokie Nation.
Interviews, interviews with

925
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,000
coaches, interviews with
players, all that fun stuff.

926
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,240
You know, recruiting's on a nice
little trend up, even though we

927
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,640
hit a little roadblock here the
last, you know, couple weeks.

928
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,400
I'm gonna pitch this to Dan
first.

929
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,840
I'm gonna let everybody get in
on this.

930
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
What's been the thing that's got
you the most hyped for the 2024

931
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:16,040
season?
Probably the expectation, see

932
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,600
how they handle it.
Normally when we get hyped,

933
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:23,080
we're hyped up.
The hokey way is to lose a

934
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,440
really dumb game, whether it's
like Boise.

935
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,160
Well, not Boise State
necessarily.

936
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,760
JMU, ECU, Syracuse and the Dome,
which we're going there this

937
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,600
year, so that'd be nice to stop
that.

938
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,080
Matt Ryan at home in the rain
cost us probably a potential

939
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:49,040
chance to go to the national
championship hype to see on the

940
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,400
depth at multiple positions.
And I guess what I'm looking

941
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:59,560
forward to is to see how they
all handle expectation because

942
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,800
last year there wasn't any.
We were terrible coming off

943
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,920
three and eight.
Like it was kind of whatever.

944
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,200
And then we started out bad and
then something happened and we

945
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,480
caught fire.
We didn't win a bowl game.

946
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,200
So.
But this year, especially with

947
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,400
the, you know, edition of
College Football 25, everybody

948
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,480
using the Hokies, Josh Pate
beating the drum, all these

949
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,480
people like him, like media
people beating the drum.

950
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Herb St.
Fowler hyped about Virginia Tech

951
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:38,880
again to see how they focus in
and drown out the noise.

952
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,000
I'm interested to see how that
goes.

953
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,960
Yeah, I'm pumped about that
because I think it's funny, a

954
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,640
lot of these national guys,
they, they like to see when

955
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,880
Virginia Tech's doing well.
Like it it you see that a lot

956
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,680
like you, you people talk about
college football is better when

957
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,400
Virginia Tech's doing well.
So I'm excited to see what

958
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,760
that's about.
Grayson, what do you got?

959
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,640
Yeah, I mean, outside of the
palpable excitement, I would say

960
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,160
the most in 14 years for
Virginia Tech football team

961
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,600
returning off of an offseason,
you know, everyone's talking

962
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,920
about drones and whatnot on the
new uniforms.

963
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,360
That's that's huge.
But then the duo of Dorian

964
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,400
Strong and Mansour d'alene and
seeing how those two play this

965
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,120
season, just, you know, Virginia
Tech is always in the DBU

966
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,240
question.
But I've talked to multiple

967
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,520
people about this, Brian.
We've chatted about it.

968
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,880
Those two, I firmly believe, and
this might be a hot take.

969
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,800
It might not by the time this
season is done, I think have the

970
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,280
potential to be as good or if
not better of a duo than Brandon

971
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Flowers and Macho Harris.
You know, in that, yeah, up up

972
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,760
there.
That's that's saying a lot.

973
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,360
That's rarefied.
In 2007, Macho and Brandon both

974
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:05,160
had five interceptions each.
Let's see if the lane and strong

975
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,640
can outdo that.
I would love to see that.

976
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,760
And and Brandon Flowers and
Macho Harris.

977
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,880
Those are my guys, two of my
favorite Virginia Tech players

978
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,800
of all time.
But I I want to see those two

979
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,760
guys eat this year.
Couple of pick sixes too.

980
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:24,360
Vito, what you got?
As far as my excitement for the

981
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,280
season upcoming, it's just what
I do.

982
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,840
I've been covering this team,
I've been covering Virginia

983
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,560
Tech.
I've been a content creator

984
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,640
since 2009, so it's just what I
do.

985
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,680
I cover the hoagies.
I talk shit whether we win or

986
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,760
lose.
I'm going to be on Twitter

987
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,640
talking shit.
I'm going to be part in talking

988
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
shit.
That's what I do.

989
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:52,280
It's in me, not on me.
There we go, Jeremy, what about

990
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,360
you?
What you got?

991
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,960
Proof of concept.
It's it's the same reason we

992
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,560
were all trying to get ourselves
all fucking jacked up and circle

993
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,280
jerking the living shit out of
each other till we're raw and

994
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,120
bleeding all over our underwear
back in the food days because

995
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,120
we're just like, Oh no, he's got
his own guys.

996
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,880
We're going to like prove
exactly what he was trying to

997
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,160
do.
Oh great.

998
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
And then it fell straight on its
fucking face.

999
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,360
So right now it to me like I
love everyone being excited.

1000
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,160
I love all the hop we're
getting.

1001
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,880
I love all of it.
I love the position groups

1002
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,160
mostly.
I love all of it, but it's proof

1003
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,360
of fucking concept.
And if we can come out and we

1004
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,160
smack people in the mouth that
we need to, and if we can come

1005
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
out and we can show that the
systems that we're putting

1006
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,040
together are clicking and we
have a cohesive fucking game

1007
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,120
plan and we come out and we
fucking execute and we've got a

1008
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,240
God damn program again, you show
me that and I'm on fucking

1009
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,840
bored.
I don't even care if we lose a

1010
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,400
few games over something that
happened.

1011
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,120
Shit happens in football.
It's fucking football.

1012
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,720
But you show me you've got an
actual plan.

1013
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,240
You show me that you're putting
this program back on the map and

1014
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:08,040
we're on the right path.
You show me that I'm going to be

1015
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,720
fucking happy.
That's why I'm excited about.

1016
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:15,920
That's what I'm socked for.
I, I mean, you can't, you can't

1017
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,480
get no better than that, I
guess.

1018
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,760
But what I'll throw in and to
end this segment with, with what

1019
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:27,720
I have to say is I guess my
height for 2014 is draft

1020
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:32,280
expectations.
Because if we get, I don't know

1021
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,840
what the number is, but we'll
say seven, we get seven people

1022
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,480
drafted.
That means we had a pretty good

1023
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,600
year.
That means some people took a

1024
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,760
step and you know what I'm
saying?

1025
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,240
We, we did what we were supposed
to do and we got six 7-8 people

1026
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,200
going to the league to represent
Virginia Tech.

1027
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,720
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to see people

1028
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:53,160
leaving and transferring and
going somewhere else and walking

1029
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,360
across the stage and saying such
and such a quarterback from

1030
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Tennessee.
I don't want that to happen no

1031
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480
more.
I want them to say from Virginia

1032
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,760
Tech and call some names.
So that's what I'm going to be

1033
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,360
looking for.
That's what I'm excited for

1034
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,240
because we got the talent there.
I just, you know, and, and

1035
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,920
hoping these young men and
praying these young men can, you

1036
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
know, go out, have a healthy
year and, and, and play to their

1037
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,960
capability so we can see them
walk across that stage, because

1038
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,000
I know that's a lifelong dream
for them.

1039
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,240
And it also, you know, like I
said, it, it makes our program

1040
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,200
better.
So that's what I'll add to it.

1041
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Way to put a bow on it, Tally.
I appreciate that.

1042
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,520
And that's going to wrap up this
first segment of the 2024

1043
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Hoagies preview panel.
Want to thank Dan Grayson, Vito,

1044
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,680
Jeremy, taking the time with us
tonight, having a little fun

1045
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,440
saying fuck a lot.
You know, I think, I think we

1046
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,040
did.
We hit our quota.

1047
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,000
We'll see if the other guys in
the back have two segments try

1048
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,280
to match you.
It's a it's a high bar, Jeremy.

1049
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,880
It's a high bar.
Yeah.

1050
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,800
I'm just definitely a high bar.
Jeremy.

1051
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Definitely a high bar man.
We appreciate all y'all jumping

1052
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,840
on everybody who watching.
Please check these gentlemen

1053
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,240
out.
They put a lot of work into the

1054
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:11,640
different things they do on
Twitter but also their content

1055
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,440
creations.
Don V formerly Don V Fridays Vt

1056
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,640
foil now y'all go give a listen.
One of my favorite listings

1057
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,840
throughout the week.
Jeremy just started him a new

1058
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,320
podcast is Blacksburg's on the
Rocks.

1059
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,320
On the rocks.
He's not talking about rocks

1060
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,960
outside.
He's talking about alcohol being

1061
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,520
poured over ice.
You don't got to tell us about

1062
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,000
it right now, Grayson.
We going to pull him back in,

1063
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,160
let him start podcasting with us
as well.

1064
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,000
One day we're going to get him
back.

1065
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:44,720
Dan still doing this thing over
there, Terra Dome interviewing

1066
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:48,480
every day, getting people from
10 years ago, 30 years ago.

1067
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,280
Keep doing what you're doing.
We appreciate all you guys.

1068
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Like I said, everybody lock you
in, check each other out, follow

1069
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,720
everybody and all that good
stuff, man.

1070
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,120
So we can go to Nashville and do
what we got to do.

1071
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Yep.
And.

1072
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,400
Thanks guys.
Appreciate it guys.

1073
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,280
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take a little pause from our our

1074
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,120
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1075
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1077
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My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm

1078
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,520
a pharmacist.
I want to operate Main Street

1079
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,040
pharmacy here in downtown
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1080
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,680
My brother's a pharmacist, I'm a
pharmacist, my uncle's a

1081
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,000
pharmacist, my dad's a
pharmacist.

1082
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200
I remember he would give me
M&M's to count in little pill

1083
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,040
counters.
This is something I've always

1084
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,920
done, and I'm just lucky that
what I know so well is something

1085
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,440
that I can do and feel good
about it and get back to people.

1086
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,880
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defense.

1087
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
you're getting optimal care.

1088
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,600
For the lowest price possible.
Also, we take the pressure off

1089
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,720
of emergency rooms.
I'll tell people immediately

1090
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,520
when they need to go to the
doctor, or I'll tell them if

1091
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,080
they just need a cream over the
counter.

1092
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,120
If there's something that isn't
commercially available, if it's

1093
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,800
something that's not available
in a certain strength or a

1094
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,840
certain form or anything like
that, we'll make it.

1095
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,240
Tailor made medications.
Some of those options save

1096
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,880
people a lot of money.
What motivates me, I get to take

1097
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,360
care of people and limit
Blacksburg.

1098
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:14,160
That's all neat.
All righty, and we are back.

1099
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,840
Well, me and Shelton are back
and Brian and Tally have got

1100
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,960
into the green room Chill for a
little while here, but we're

1101
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,480
going to get segment 2 popped up
here and we're telling this

1102
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,640
hokey hype by the numbers and
we've got some great guests.

1103
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,120
We got some more stuff to talk
about.

1104
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,760
How long?
Just go ahead and say it.

1105
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,360
We're going to be under on the F
bombs this segment, not even a

1106
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,880
doubt about it.
What do you think, Sheldon?

1107
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,640
Yeah, it's going to be hard to
top that previous segment, I

1108
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,800
know.
So we got some, I'd say

1109
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,840
enigmatic personalities, some
some exuberant faces and voices

1110
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,360
in that, in that, in that Group
One.

1111
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,240
But hopefully we can keep the
ball rolling, have a good

1112
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,920
segment too.
Absolutely, we're going to keep

1113
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,920
it rolling with four guests who
have been on with us before and

1114
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,440
we are enjoying having them back
tonight.

1115
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,840
Going to start out here, man in
Blacksburg himself from tech

1116
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,600
sideline David Cunningham.
Hey David, how you doing

1117
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,760
tonight?
I'm all right, man Thanks.

1118
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,000
Yeah, I don't I don't think I
will be able to meet the Jeremy

1119
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,280
F bomb quota, unfortunately.
But I technically I will write

1120
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,680
this off as work.
This is what I do for.

1121
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,880
I mean, this is what I do for a
living and I've got AI got some

1122
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,360
professionalism to keep.
Luckily, you know, Jeremy is not

1123
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Jeremy and Main Street Pharmacy
are two separate entities.

1124
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,080
So that's that's good.
Me, I basically tech sideline

1125
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,320
all the time, so it's going to
be hard for me to separate.

1126
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,720
Very nice.
All right, next here he is a

1127
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,040
host with Dwight Victoria at the
Vt for Life.

1128
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,840
Also, Danny, I don't know if
you're still doing this or not

1129
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,920
because I haven't talked to you
in a while.

1130
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,640
Are you still hosting up in DC?
Whenever they gave me the call,

1131
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Curtis, you know, it's great to
be here.

1132
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,160
I'm wondering if this is now the
most anticipated event of the

1133
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,200
hokey offseason the the Hokies
preview panel with with everyone

1134
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,600
that comes in here every single
year.

1135
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,800
You guys do a great job and I'm
I'm honored to be a part of it.

1136
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,400
Well, Danny and we enjoy having
you back this year, man.

1137
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,360
Always good to see you.
Always good to talk with you.

1138
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Next, our buddy from over at T
Too Deep, Pete B Pete, we said,

1139
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,240
what do you say tonight man?
What's going on fellas?

1140
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,160
How you doing?
How'd you like the first

1141
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,480
segment?
Oh, I know, I know.

1142
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,960
And you know what, it's funny,
like after watching that and

1143
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,680
then seeing the Main Street
Pharmacy commercial and the

1144
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,120
dichotomy between the two, that
was really, it just made me

1145
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,120
crack up.
And I just want to say FUF U2.

1146
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,080
And to each and everyone of you
on the panel here with me now,

1147
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,080
it's cool because I never got a
chance to really talk to to DC

1148
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,880
or Danny before, so this is
awesome.

1149
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,520
Love it, love it.
All righty.

1150
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,200
So lastly who we've got coming
back with us.

1151
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,400
If you watch this show, y'all
know the next guy we have on

1152
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,000
basically our lifelong friends
of Brian and Irish.

1153
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,560
He is also a high school
football coach down in the state

1154
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,800
of North Carolina.
He is fresh in out from camp

1155
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,280
today our buddy coach Robbie
Compton.

1156
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,120
Robbie, what's going on,
brother?

1157
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Watch out Jeremy.
Here I come, buddy.

1158
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,680
Oh, that's awesome.
Robbie, how's Cam going?

1159
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,320
Man, I'm a teacher too, I keep
this on my desk and I just throw

1160
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,440
it at people every now and then
because I can't use the word.

1161
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040
Love.
It these are good man got brand

1162
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,760
new turf field.
We're trying to get used to the

1163
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,160
heat of of practicing on and
just trying to push through some

1164
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,600
things, try to get better every
day.

1165
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Love to hear it, man, love to
hear it.

1166
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,440
So y'all, I want to kind of
start it this way because I need

1167
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,560
everybody to close their eyes
for a second and picture this.

1168
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:55,520
It's roughly 320 days ago, it's
night time, it's Lane Stadium,

1169
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,760
and we're about to kick off
against Pitt.

1170
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,000
If I threw a Franklin on each of
y'all's desks wherever you're

1171
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,920
sitting, handed to you and said
100 bucks 2024 pre season, the

1172
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Hokies are going to be
considered a top 25 team.

1173
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,680
Tyron Jones is a dark horse for
the Heisman.

1174
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,480
People are talking about winning
the ACC, going to the playoff.

1175
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,040
A would you have taken that bet?
And now how do you justify it,

1176
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,320
David?
Yeah, I was.

1177
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,840
I didn't think about the spot
they were in.

1178
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,760
No, I mean, I like it would have
been none of those.

1179
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,520
I don't think anybody really
thought those things were

1180
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,280
possible.
I think a lot of people in the

1181
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,080
program didn't really see it,
right.

1182
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,240
It's also one of those things
where it does you don't you

1183
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,880
don't really think it can maybe
be accomplished until it it

1184
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,320
happens.
But I mean, at that point,

1185
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,400
Virginia Tech is sitting at 1:00
and 3:00, right?

1186
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,680
Virginia Tech is just coming off
a loss at Marshall.

1187
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,040
Like that's a team that Virginia
Tech beat on the ground early in

1188
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,200
the game and just decided to
stop running the ball.

1189
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,760
Like you get to a point where I
think everybody kind of just

1190
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,880
threw their hands up and said
what is going on?

1191
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,960
And Curtis, if you had told me
that, if you had said, yeah,

1192
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,360
I'll give you $100.
But I'm, I'm no way, no way.

1193
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,120
I don't think anybody's taking
that just because at that point

1194
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:23,520
we had not seen how dynamic for
a long period of time Kyron

1195
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,320
drones was.
We saw Bashel Tooten's ability

1196
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,640
in spurts.
I don't think the defensive

1197
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,520
really played up to par.
The run fits were terrible.

1198
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Like there were a lot of things
that went wrong.

1199
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,560
And credit to the staff, they
turn things around and it's kind

1200
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,280
of crazy.
We're sitting here, you know,

1201
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,360
middle of August, and this is a
team that has high expectations.

1202
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,400
Danny, what about you, man?
Would you?

1203
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Would you have taken the bet
with me?

1204
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,960
Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
And and it's real simple for me

1205
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,320
guys, because I, I remember
talking about the state of this

1206
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,880
team at that moment in time
with, with Dwight and Mike Vick

1207
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,400
on our podcast last year.
And at that point in the season,

1208
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,560
we hadn't seen the coaching
staff figure out how to make

1209
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,120
adjustments, not even from game
to game, but within the game.

1210
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,040
What whatever it came down to,
we we hadn't really seen them

1211
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,160
put together a full performance
from the top with the coaching

1212
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
staff down to the players going
out and executing.

1213
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,720
Now Kyron Jones ends up coming
in and, and really starts to,

1214
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,480
you know, cement himself not
just as a starter, but as a star

1215
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,120
pretty, pretty early on.
And and that pit game was, was

1216
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,640
definitely one of those early
showings of that.

1217
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,000
But would I have taken the bet
at 1:00 and 3:00 going into that

1218
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,840
pit game that they they'd be
sitting in this position right

1219
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,920
now?
Absolutely not.

1220
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,880
Even though I did have a good
bit of confidence that they were

1221
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,360
going to go out and be pit that
night.

1222
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,720
It it just hadn't it.
We hadn't had any tangible proof

1223
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,680
that they could put everything
together at that point.

1224
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,320
All righty, Pete.
Yeah, getting to six and six

1225
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,880
after those first four games
felt impossible.

1226
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,360
And I remember listening to
David and the TSL guys talk

1227
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,920
about it and and how many more
games would we win last year?

1228
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,880
And I would say that I was a
little bit less panicked than

1229
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,840
most.
But nevertheless, I was

1230
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,040
thinking, OK, maybe three again,
maybe we'll get to three wins.

1231
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Like it just we were playing so
unhokey, like in terms of a

1232
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,840
historic sense.
And that pit game did turn

1233
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,040
things around.
And Pitt is a team that has

1234
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,080
given us problems over the
years.

1235
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,960
And so if you lose that game and
then you lose to Florida State,

1236
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,720
like it could have really
unraveled, but it didn't.

1237
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,440
And I'm I'm so grateful we're in
the position we are now because

1238
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,320
it makes this preview a lot more
fun.

1239
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,000
Absolutely, Robbie.
What about you, man?

1240
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,840
You had seen the team that
spring, you'd seen drones, and

1241
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,960
then they're one and three.
What did you think?

1242
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,240
Would you have taken the money
from me?

1243
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,960
If any of you know my gambling,
my online gambling habits, you

1244
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,080
would say this idiot's going to
take this.

1245
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960
I can't.
It's a parlay to me.

1246
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,200
You just listed off too many
things for me to take.

1247
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,840
And I was like, yeah, surely I'm
going to take that bet and I'm

1248
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,440
going to lose on one by a point.
Damn.

1249
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:13,240
LeBron James.
No, there's, you know, I have, I

1250
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,680
have some, some pretty good
professional relationships with

1251
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,840
some of those coaches there.
I've I've been in, I've been in

1252
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,600
some meeting rooms and some
things with several of those

1253
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,000
coaches before they got to
Blacksburg, things like that.

1254
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,280
I knew where they were headed
and what they were going to try

1255
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,560
to do.
I just wasn't sure how long it

1256
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,200
was going to take.
So in my mind to to say a year

1257
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,400
from now, it would have been
hard to say that to see them

1258
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,400
build to what they have in this
quick of a time.

1259
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:50,360
I think it's pretty impressive
If you to give me 2025, I

1260
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,920
probably leaned a little more,
but 2024 seemed a little little

1261
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,320
crazy at that point in time.
But I, I, I'm excited about what

1262
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,840
they put together and where
they're headed.

1263
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,640
And All in all, no, I don't, I
don't think I would have taken

1264
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,880
that 320 days ago tell.
Them.

1265
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,320
What about you, man?
I know we've talked about this a

1266
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,400
little bit, but.
Yeah, it was man.

1267
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,080
It just, it seemed like it
turned on a dime.

1268
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,640
I mean, you're coming off that
loss to Marshall.

1269
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,480
I think everyone collectively is
kind of questioning, you know,

1270
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,360
the process and and where the
where the program is headed, at

1271
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,080
least externally.
I don't think internally it

1272
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,720
seemed like they, they kind of
had their heads on straight, but

1273
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,360
I think it's a, it's a testament
to Brent Pryor that he kind of

1274
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,120
kept things going and, you know,
kept everyone focused.

1275
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,120
There was no, you know, finger
pointing or infighting or

1276
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,280
internal division.
And I think that's a, that's a

1277
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,160
testament to the culture that he
built that they could just, you

1278
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,000
know, they went through some
adversity, they came back from

1279
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,080
it and they got better week by
week.

1280
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,120
We saw Karen droves progress
throughout the course of the

1281
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,960
season and they ended up going
7:00 and 6:00.

1282
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,440
So I think it's just a
remarkable, remarkable

1283
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,000
progression there.
So continuing on, Speaking of

1284
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,640
Brent Pry, he has been mining
the transfer portal this

1285
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,640
offseason as he has done a lot
and he Pry said before that he

1286
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,680
wants to build this program on
the backs of high school

1287
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,600
recruiting and sort of use the
portal to supplements.

1288
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,240
So us this qualify by excluding
Aeneas Peebles because I think

1289
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,720
he was sort of the consensus big
time get out of the portal this

1290
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,520
this past year.
Who do you guys see being the

1291
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,880
biggest transfer impact, the
biggest impact player?

1292
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,080
I'm going to transfer class this
year.

1293
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,319
We'll start with Pete.
I think it's going to be

1294
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:38,200
Bromfield if you ask me.
I mean, yes, peoples is is a

1295
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:41,680
would be a great choice, but
with the depth across the D

1296
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:46,040
line, who knows how much of an
impact that he might have

1297
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,920
relative to what Brumfield could
do.

1298
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,600
If you think about the problems
we had at middle linebacker last

1299
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,760
year and the tackling issues in
general and the fact that, you

1300
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,520
know, he had 81 tackles for
Middle Tennessee State that

1301
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,080
would have led us last year.
I know it's different teams,

1302
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,960
whatever.
Two years ago, our leading

1303
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,600
tackler had 82 tackles.
So this is the kind of impact,

1304
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,279
the guy who in Brumfield, who
was still coming into his own

1305
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,880
last year on AG5, he's at
another seasoning, better

1306
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,560
coaching now, playing for a
power school.

1307
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,760
And I just feel like if he can
study that middle linebacking

1308
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,680
core and we can even get a Dax
level when Dax was in playing

1309
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,640
his senior year, like that could
be a monumental change.

1310
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,720
So I'm going to go with
Bromfield.

1311
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,720
Yeah, definitely doing a lot for
the linebacker core there.

1312
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,840
Danny biggest impact transfer.
I love what Pete said because I

1313
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,920
think Brumfield needs to have
the biggest year of the guys

1314
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,920
that that are coming in from the
transfer portal because that is

1315
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,560
is the weakest position on the
defense and and where they're

1316
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,880
gonna need the most help.
Who I think it'll actually end

1317
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,560
up being, though, is Peebles,
and I know that that's.

1318
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,960
Really.
But most of what all of us

1319
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,680
probably think to to some
degree, but I've been hype on

1320
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,520
him since since the word got
out.

1321
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,680
I I think he's a great player.
I think he's got all the

1322
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,840
physical tools to be dominant
and the reality is if he plays

1323
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,760
well, he's going to help
Brumfield and the inside

1324
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,680
linebackers out.
Your interior defensive line

1325
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,000
plays well.
It just makes everybody's life

1326
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,560
behind them easier.
Not just not just the PAT, you

1327
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,960
know, the passing coverage,
which Virginia Tech's obviously

1328
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,520
got strong pass defense, but
being able to defend the run.

1329
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,120
They, they can really be a
well-rounded unit and it all

1330
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,960
starts up front.
You kind of, you feel the love

1331
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,320
for Sam Brunfield.
I mean, here's the thing.

1332
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,360
There aren't too many guys to
choose from because Virginia

1333
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,760
Tech returns so many that it's,
it's a, it's a tough question.

1334
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,480
Those are the top 2 answers.
And I think both of those guys

1335
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:40,840
will have the two biggest
impacts.

1336
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,240
I think I would probably, I, I,
it's tough.

1337
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,520
I think Peebles will probably
have the biggest impact.

1338
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,240
I think Brumfield is the most
needed.

1339
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,160
But just for sake of this
argument, I think Montavius

1340
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,240
Cunningham is, is going to be
an, he's going to play an

1341
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,960
interesting role.
He, he might not win the job.

1342
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,560
And right now he is not playing
with the ones in practice at

1343
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,880
right guard.
It's Bob Schick, but he's

1344
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,760
somebody who had gotten
consistent reps at his previous

1345
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,840
institution.
He's somebody who has experience

1346
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,560
and what wrong Crook has slowly
done with that room.

1347
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,120
He's.
Transformed it into a room that

1348
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,200
last year could barely go 6
deep, now can go way, way

1349
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,240
deeper.
And I think Cunningham is a big

1350
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,800
piece of that.
Injuries are part of football.

1351
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,960
At some point some of those guys
are are going to have to play

1352
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,440
Montavious.
Cunningham is going to have to

1353
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,280
have an impact.
And the fact that Virginia Tech

1354
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,040
is a guy like that with that
kind of experience, even if it

1355
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:45,120
was at Georgia State, having
somebody with that experience

1356
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,840
over, say, a freshman or a retro
freshman or a sophomore in that

1357
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,560
role is crucial, I think.
And so Brumfield and Peebles, I

1358
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,840
think they're top two options.
But I think you can't really

1359
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,280
overlook Cunningham because,
again, he might not start, but

1360
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,600
he will have an impact in some
capacity.

1361
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,600
All right, Robbie, we got a vote
for Montavas Cunningham, a

1362
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,280
couple for Brumfield, one for
Peebles.

1363
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,480
Who do you think is kind of the
biggest impact on the transfer

1364
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,560
class this year?
In my opinion, I think a lot of

1365
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,720
it's going to come.
We sat at the end of last season

1366
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,520
looking at what are we going to
do with the defensive line,

1367
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,240
where are we going to get depth?
And there's three added right

1368
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,400
there on the defensive line, I
think from the transfer portal

1369
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:33,840
in in Perry, Gilliam and
Copeland who came in and they

1370
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:39,200
provide a future at that
position.

1371
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,000
And I think that's a big thing.
We people's coming in is going

1372
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,600
to be amazing.
I think he's going to be the

1373
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,880
star of that defensive front.
I think he's going to really

1374
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,440
give a lot of things.
I mean, he's shown it several

1375
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,160
years of Duke, he's going to
help tremendously.

1376
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,640
But just the fact that that
we've got the depth and those

1377
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,720
three guys coming in, it's hard
for me to pick just one, but

1378
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,440
that room getting better that
much quicker.

1379
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:08,000
I think it's going to add a lot
to the future of the thing.

1380
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,440
They're going to help now by
having depth, but they're just

1381
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:13,040
going to be that much better
later because of those three.

1382
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,080
I think 1, there's what, 3 red
shirt sophomores.

1383
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,600
They're all relatively young and
they're going to be there at

1384
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,480
least at least two seasons.
I would think So.

1385
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:28,600
I mean you're, you're looking
at, I think that was a big thing

1386
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,920
now.
I think Brumfield right behind

1387
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,400
them.
And if you didn't know, I'm a

1388
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,840
defensive coordinator, so I I
look more at that defensive

1389
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:42,120
stuff, but that that front is
going to help Brumfield even

1390
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,600
more, going to keep pressure off
those linebackers, let them play

1391
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320
with the speed and the
aggressiveness that they do and

1392
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,160
they can rotate guys in.
I know as a coach, offensive

1393
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,440
line coaches don't like to
rotate guys outside of that

1394
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:55,480
five.
They like to get that

1395
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:58,160
continuity.
And when we can put four guys

1396
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,480
out there and then two plays
later put four more guys in

1397
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:04,080
front of them and move them
around, it gets tough for four

1398
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,480
quarters.
And I mean, I think that's going

1399
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:09,280
to be a big thing with with
those three big guys coming in

1400
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,640
there.
In the first segment, if if you

1401
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,800
don't mind if I jump in here or
something, they talked about

1402
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160
like, oh, we don't really know
what these guys are going to be

1403
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,080
Copeland, whatever people, we
are hearing practice reports,

1404
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,200
right?
We do hear positive things about

1405
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,120
the coaches and not every piece
of hype that a coach says his

1406
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,480
gospel, right?
We heard it about Lofton.

1407
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:30,160
We heard it about Keller for a
couple years.

1408
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,240
We're hearing it again about
Keller.

1409
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,280
But think about the hit rate out
of the portal last year, just

1410
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:41,120
like drones, Jennings, Tooten,
Felton, APR Lane canteen and and

1411
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,640
then like that's a pretty good
hit rate.

1412
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,000
That's I mean, Freddy and Stone
Snyder were the only two that

1413
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,080
didn't really hit right.
So this year you got Peebles

1414
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,440
only hearing good things,
Brumfield good things, Copeland

1415
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:57,720
good things, Spencer Perry also
good things, maybe even a

1416
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,760
Gilliam in there a couple times,
maybe not so much.

1417
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,720
Either way, think about that hit
rate that our coaches, they

1418
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,720
don't just go and grab from the
portal.

1419
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,160
They are evaluating and pulling
guys that we think are going to

1420
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,800
make a big impact.
So it's very exciting.

1421
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,520
They, they know what they're
getting out of those guys.

1422
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,680
They're pulling them in.
I can tell you from personal

1423
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,840
experience coaching against
peoples that that that he's a

1424
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,800
man they're going to have,
they're going to get they're

1425
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,280
going to get good quality plays
out of him, even if it's just

1426
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,960
for this year.
He's a real deal.

1427
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,360
And and I saw Kamari Copeland
play in high school.

1428
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,360
He's not just a fancy squat
number that's showing up there.

1429
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,720
He he's going to be ready to
play and he's going to want to

1430
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,960
play every snap they'll give him
and he's going to be ready to

1431
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,720
go.
I mean, I like you said, it's,

1432
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,840
it's a big thing to hit like
they did in the Portal last

1433
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,080
year, but this, this crowd's
definitely going to give them

1434
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,960
all they want and make them
compare them to them, in my

1435
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,640
opinion.
Yeah, I'm, I'm going to say this

1436
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,000
and then I'm going to pivot over
to David because he mentioned it

1437
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,080
a little bit already.
As much as I love the defensive

1438
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:09,320
line, I trust JC Price.
A lot of people doubted JC

1439
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,720
Price.
JC Price definitely knows how to

1440
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,880
coach and what you said Davis a
few minutes ago talking about

1441
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,040
Montavious Cunningham, because
last year I felt we had six guys

1442
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:23,600
that could actually play the
offensive line.

1443
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,560
David, you're seeing in practice
more and more, what's that

1444
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,840
number this year?
Is it 8?

1445
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,360
Is it nine?
Could we see ten guys

1446
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,600
potentially rotating in or?
I wouldn't say rotating, but are

1447
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,600
we seeing a point where we're
going to have eight definite

1448
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,960
rotations and there's going to
be some younger guys getting

1449
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:46,400
reps at certain spots?
Yeah, well, I think, I think one

1450
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,880
of the most interesting things
is what was just said, which is

1451
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,880
some of a lot of offensive line
coaches don't rotate a ton.

1452
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,240
But it is important to have
depth when you get into

1453
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:57,200
situations where you need it,
right.

1454
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,240
Guys are are going to have to
play.

1455
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,480
From what I've seen, Curtis 8-9
is kind of where Tech is right

1456
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:06,800
now.
Now granted we haven't had a

1457
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,400
chance to see scrimmages yet.
It's what I've gathered from

1458
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,920
chatting with Ron Crooked Media
days last week or two weeks ago.

1459
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,400
If he wants to have ten, I think
he he has about 8 right now.

1460
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,600
I think bring bringing in a guy
like Montavious Cunningham helps

1461
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,320
guys like Leif Ganem and Johnny
Garrett.

1462
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,960
They're pushing for for those
spots.

1463
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,040
So that gives you kind of eight
right there.

1464
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,680
There is probably a 9th or 10th
guy around.

1465
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:37,280
So I think it it'll be
interesting to see how how it it

1466
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,880
really shakes out.
But I would agree with you,

1467
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,600
Curtis, when you say Virginia
Tech only really had six guys

1468
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,320
and that's that's that I'm.
Giving you six?

1469
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,360
You're giving me six?
Yeah.

1470
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,840
You're being nice about 6.
I mean, this, this was a unit

1471
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,400
that at times did, did not
necessarily play super well.

1472
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:02,000
But I think as the season went
on, Ron Crook and Tyler Bowen

1473
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,760
and Brent Davis, who has a big
role with that group, former

1474
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,120
Army offensive coordinator, they
scheme stuff up so well that

1475
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:15,360
they hid a lot of deficiencies.
And I'm curious, another year

1476
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:18,400
under everybody's belt.
Ron Crook had an entire

1477
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,560
offseason to work with these
guys.

1478
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,160
Instead of just getting there
right before spring.

1479
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,560
Ball, what does this group look
like in Ron Crook's second year?

1480
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,400
Everybody now has, I mean, they
bring everybody back.

1481
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,320
Like every single player from
that group is back.

1482
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:36,520
So you would think everybody
takes a step forward and you

1483
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,000
bring in some young guys like
I've got I've got my eye on

1484
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,480
somebody like Lathe Ganem.
Can he push for one of those

1485
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:46,040
tackle spots?
He's somebody that Brent Pride

1486
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,800
has spoken pretty highly on and
like Pete said, don't take

1487
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,600
everything as gospel.
But overall, that room has been

1488
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,840
elevated and I think it will
only continue to be elevated.

1489
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,920
And a guy like Montavius
Cunningham, who I mentioned

1490
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:04,160
before, he, he kind of plays an
interesting role in that because

1491
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,440
he is somebody, if that doesn't
have him, that that's one fewer

1492
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,680
guy and you need all of the the
big guys up front that you can

1493
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:19,560
get.
I I think I think Cunningham is

1494
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,480
going to play a big part in
being able to move a lot of

1495
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,240
places because he's got
experience to guard, he's got

1496
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,280
experience to tackle.
He's somebody that can really

1497
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,800
step up and fill a lot of needs.
And I think that's one of the

1498
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,400
big things they're looking at is
he's such a utility for whatever

1499
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,000
they need.
You have guys that are

1500
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,440
challenging for spots in
different places, but you've got

1501
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,880
a guy that I know I can plug in
and play multiple places.

1502
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,400
I think that's big for them as
well.

1503
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,080
Yes, let's let's keep getting
some thoughts from from Robbie

1504
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,960
here because I know he's a ball
mower of sorts.

1505
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,560
So we want to manage the hype a
little bit and had a question

1506
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,560
about safeties.
So safety play was a problem for

1507
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,560
Tech last year.
You know, run fits were a big

1508
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,520
problem and part of it was
injuries, part of it was

1509
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,680
inexperienced, part of it was
targeting, you know, guys just

1510
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,560
not being on the field when they
you'd like them to be.

1511
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,920
Last year we kind of saw the the
trio of Jalen Stroman, Moss

1512
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Phillips and and Jalen Jones get
a lot of reps there.

1513
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,640
How do you see that safety unit
shaking out this season and just

1514
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,160
what does Tech need to do to
kind of get better at that spot?

1515
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,200
Because I think it's kind of the
one of the one of the few weak

1516
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:30,400
spots I can see on this team.
My honest opinion, I think a lot

1517
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,640
of the like we you talked about
targeting, part of that is

1518
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,200
aggressiveness.
I like that part.

1519
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,640
I like the aggressiveness part.
You just have to learn how to

1520
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,760
tailor it back and use it
properly.

1521
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:48,920
I think a lot of it was was
inexperience in the game not

1522
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,200
being consistent with certain
things that they had last year.

1523
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,360
And I think that aggressiveness
is going to be the the thing

1524
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,480
that separates several of them.
I know in, in the spring, first

1525
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:03,160
spring practice I was at this
year, I went to their coaches

1526
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,440
clinic.
We saw a spring practice, I

1527
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,680
think it was Phillips come
through.

1528
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,240
And I mean, he laid a shot on
one of the receivers early in

1529
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,000
practice.
And I mean, the official that

1530
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,280
was there threw a, threw a flag
for targeting in that.

1531
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,040
I mean, they've got to learn how
to harness that aggression and

1532
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,040
use those things.
Now the fact that they're all

1533
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,440
playing together once again,
that consistency, playing

1534
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,960
together longer, working
together, I think it's going to

1535
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,320
help that room.
Overall.

1536
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,800
You're getting more of a feel
from the coaches.

1537
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:41,040
More experience will be better,
should translate to better play

1538
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,360
on the field.
And the, the fact that you have

1539
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,760
two corners out there that are,
that are funneling things in,

1540
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:53,800
shutting things down on the edge
really gives you and ability to

1541
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,640
be a lot more aggressive with
one of those safeties, if not

1542
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,480
both of them to, to help in the
run.

1543
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,560
So I don't think you, you try to
step too far away from that.

1544
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,880
You keep that aggressiveness.
Just learn how to, to put it in

1545
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,120
the right places.
And I think you'll see a lot of

1546
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,840
that.
If we remember correctly, the

1547
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,800
guy that that's coaching the
safeties was always good about

1548
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,400
being very, very aggressive in
his own right.

1549
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,280
And that's a, that's a thing
Virginia Tech's been known for

1550
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,320
with their safeties.
I mean, you look at them,

1551
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,120
they've, they've always been
aggressive.

1552
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:32,000
So this targeting things kind of
it, it's an ever changing thing

1553
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,720
and it takes a lot to get used
to.

1554
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,440
And just when you get used to
the aspects of what you should

1555
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,520
be doing, they kind of change it
up again.

1556
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,720
So I think that's going to be
part of it.

1557
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,760
And just understanding how
they're going to play together

1558
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,560
and finding the right rotation
for four or five guys there that

1559
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,240
can really help.
I think the big part about you

1560
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,680
say aggressiveness, because
safeties have to be aggressive.

1561
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,920
You coach them.
I'm sure you don't tell them to

1562
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,440
play with kids gloves with the
guys.

1563
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:00,320
It's like you've got to hit
people because your space hit

1564
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,360
them.
But I think maybe what could

1565
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,480
really help this team a lot is
having those calls last year

1566
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:07,360
because now you get the video
right?

1567
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,240
And I'm sure Pearson's pulling
them up.

1568
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,080
I'm sure Marvin's pulling them
saying guys look, love the

1569
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,760
aggressiveness.
Look where your head placement

1570
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,520
is.
Get the shoulder first.

1571
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,240
Get this, get that.
These are the things we can fix.

1572
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,280
Because what you, you can talk
about aggressiveness and if a

1573
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,360
guy isn't aggressive back there,
you can't teach that because by

1574
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,880
all means, Cam Chancellor used
to lay people out, right?

1575
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,240
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Everybody can remember his name

1576
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:40,320
escapes me right now, but the
guy, the safety, yeah.

1577
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,560
Why was that escaping?
That was when he went to the

1578
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,000
Skins.
He had the whole medical deal.

1579
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,560
The pit hit the.
Pit hit.

1580
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,440
Thank you, Pete.
The pit hit.

1581
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,400
Great moment.
Great moment.

1582
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Clean shoulder, just laid the
kid out.

1583
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,880
So I like, I like you.
I like hearing that, Robbie.

1584
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,480
I also like the little cover
behind practice that

1585
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,120
unfortunately most Phillips laid
the crap out of one of our

1586
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,880
receivers.
But that's all good and well.

1587
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,080
All right, I'm going to move
over to Danny next.

1588
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:13,000
Danny, it is very clear that
Tooten is the number one back.

1589
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,440
There is no doubt about it.
There is no argument from the

1590
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,720
four guys we had on the 1st,
from our two Co host to anybody

1591
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,720
on this panel to the two
gentlemen will bring on Labor.

1592
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,680
He's he's already won.
But we got to look deeper.

1593
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,240
Last year, Malachi Thomas, he
carried the ball 83 times.

1594
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,560
From what you're seeing, what
you're reading, what you're

1595
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,880
hearing, your overall feel, what
you saw in the spring game, is

1596
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,640
he going to get that much run
this year?

1597
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,440
Are we going to see some younger
guys steal his share?

1598
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,360
We know it's funny because it's
a good thing I'm not sitting

1599
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,880
here as the head coach of Pitt
right now, Pat and Arduzi,

1600
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:50,240
because I asked a very similar
question to that man maybe 8:00

1601
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,160
or so years ago with the ACC
kickoff.

1602
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,520
One of his first years guy by
the name of James Conner was,

1603
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,400
was coming back off of cancer,
right?

1604
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,280
But they also had another
running back by the name of

1605
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,920
Khadri Olson who ran for north
of 1000 yards.

1606
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,640
And when I asked him about
getting both of those guys

1607
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,280
involved, he kind of
condescendingly put me down and

1608
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,160
said why would I give the ball
to anybody other than James

1609
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,160
Conner?
And I thought, well, you got two

1610
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,600
useful backs there Coach.
I feel like you could probably

1611
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,560
use both of those guys.
And I think here at Tech this

1612
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,600
year, you've got two very
capable backs in in Tooten and

1613
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,600
Malachi Thomas.
I I also remember back in 2021,

1614
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,760
one of the first glimpses that
we got of Malachi Thomas in that

1615
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,080
Syracuse game, one of Fuentes
final games goes for north of

1616
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,680
150 yards, 3 touchdowns.
No one had done that since David

1617
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,520
Wilson.
That's an incredible game.

1618
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,160
Syracuse wasn't very good, but
that was still pretty

1619
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,680
impressive.
And the guys had some some

1620
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,240
injury issues.
He did that last season, but but

1621
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,200
was a a contributor in every
game last year.

1622
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,680
Ideally you're you're hanging
with Tooten for for most of the

1623
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,080
game and the guy is so dynamic.
How could you not, right?

1624
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,000
I mean, he could catch the ball
out of the backfield.

1625
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,280
Obviously he's he's great on the
edge and between the tackles.

1626
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,480
The offensive line will have a
lot to do with the success of

1627
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,600
Tooten.
Their health, Tooten's own

1628
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,600
health will will play into that
as well.

1629
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,280
But you also have to factor
obviously in Chiron drones and

1630
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,480
and his dual threat ability and
and how much harder that is for

1631
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,000
for a defense to prepare for.
It only helps tooten.

1632
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,040
It only helps Malachi Thomas.
That and and I think the last

1633
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,240
thing that I would add to to the
running back conversation here

1634
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,400
is, you know, for the spring
game, it was the PJ prelo show

1635
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,400
for for at least early on,
right.

1636
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,960
He had a couple of touchdowns.
He had a lot of production.

1637
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,360
They were giving him the ball a
lot.

1638
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,960
And I, I'm, I'm a little bit
biased because Pearson's my guy.

1639
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,440
He was my Co host on the on the
tailgate show for for a couple

1640
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,800
of years.
I I love him to death, but PJ

1641
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,560
really showed, I think what he
can do there and it and it's a

1642
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,360
very capable third option,
although you know, they've got a

1643
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,840
couple of other guys in Kony and
Mason with Kony being the only

1644
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,160
of the three that I just
mentioned that have seen game

1645
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,280
action other than Malachi and
and Bashal Tooten.

1646
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:59,440
So I think there's there's just
an just an absolute overflow of

1647
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:01,600
talent in the running backroom
this year, which is a great

1648
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,080
problem to have.
But I think it's it's going to

1649
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,960
be the Tootin show, man, as it
should be.

1650
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:13,800
What do you got, Nick Shelton?
Yes, so let's go Pete here.

1651
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:20,040
Last year, Jalen Lane led the
team in catches with 41 and

1652
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,440
Dequan Feldon had 38.
Obviously the Hokies get Allie

1653
01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:26,120
Jennings back this year.
I've sort of referred to that

1654
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,200
group as a big three because,
well, they're the big three

1655
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,440
between Lane, Jennings and
Felton.

1656
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,360
Outside of those three guys,
anyone in the wide receiver room

1657
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,000
you expect to maybe pop off or
give, you know, take a take a

1658
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,400
leap forward and maybe provide
some some depth in that room as

1659
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,120
like a four or five option?
Well, I think it's a little too

1660
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,800
easy to say Aiden Green.
I feel like that's the guy that

1661
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,160
we were talking about him in the
spring, he had the cool catch in

1662
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,080
the bowl game and he's got the
right frame for it and all that

1663
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,960
kind of stuff.
So I will, as far as a pop goes,

1664
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,600
I'll leave Aiden Green off
because I expect him to be

1665
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,960
battling with Steven Gosnell for
that 4th receiver spot,

1666
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,200
especially with Gosnell maybe
being a little iffy early on.

1667
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,680
Although the practice reports
indicates that the man has

1668
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,640
worked his butt off this summer
to get back.

1669
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,600
Think about an XTB, right?
Like that's someone that we

1670
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,720
thought, oh man, he made a lot
of plays last year.

1671
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,600
He could, he could potentially
pop this year.

1672
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,360
He had one catch last year.
One, I know he ran the ball, had

1673
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,400
some cool plays.
He had one catch.

1674
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,360
He's also, he put on a little
bit of weight, but he's not that

1675
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,280
big.
Same thing for Takahi, the guy

1676
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,560
who was injured but got a lot of
hype before the season as a

1677
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,120
young guy that players were
watching out for.

1678
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,000
So let's move all the way down.
If you want to go a little

1679
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,080
exciting, a little bit of pop,
let's go with a Brody Adams.

1680
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,360
I know we are loaded at
receiver.

1681
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:51,800
It seems inconceivable that we'd
want to even burn a red shirt on

1682
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,840
a Transwiggin or a Brody Adams.
But this kid set so many

1683
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,400
records.
He's doing well in camp.

1684
01:28:57,480 --> 01:28:59,320
From everything I know you guys
are on the boards.

1685
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,400
I know you were seeing this
stuff.

1686
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,800
He's looking like the part of
what he was coming out of high

1687
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,120
school being our our highest
ranked recruit, depending on the

1688
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,920
service you look at.
And so I think he's going to

1689
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,800
play and it might not be a ton,
but if you're looking for a pop,

1690
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,720
if you're looking for more than
one catch as a freshman, I think

1691
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,520
it's Brody.
And he, I'm not even sure he's

1692
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,040
going to get that richer.
Maybe he does because we do have

1693
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,680
this wealth of depth.
But if injuries come, if he

1694
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,480
outperforms some of those guys,
that's who I'm looking for to

1695
01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:32,480
pop is is a Brody.
I mean, you could say Chance

1696
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,280
too, because Chance had an
excellent spring.

1697
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,560
And then there's Chance
Fitzgerald that has a year on

1698
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:42,560
both of those guys, but maybe
not as as highly touted as as

1699
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:47,000
those two younger guys. 100% And
from all sounds of it is those

1700
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,760
guys are going through and with
Wiggins and Adams, they showed

1701
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,880
up in, they showed up in the
winter.

1702
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:55,240
They're they've gone through,
they've gone through winter

1703
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,000
camp, they've gone through
spring ball, they've gone

1704
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,480
through summer training.
They're not really they're

1705
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,840
they're not defectively behind.
I got one more thing, Sheldon,

1706
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,840
before you ask your next
question for the whole group.

1707
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,960
This is coming from, this is
coming from Tally, David.

1708
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:11,800
David, are we making a bowl this
year?

1709
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:16,960
Because if I can recall, 365
days ago you said we weren't

1710
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,360
well.
Yeah, I saw Tally's comment.

1711
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,720
What I said, I said tech was
five and seven, and tech

1712
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,040
finished six and six.
I mean.

1713
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,960
What?
You guys started the show with

1714
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,360
the question, Curtis, you asked
about taking a bet.

1715
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,520
Virginia Tech was one in three,
man.

1716
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,440
I'm with Tally, was the guy on
here talking about eight win

1717
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:41,400
team last year?
That was me, that was me and we

1718
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,640
finished with seven and we
started the wrong quarterback

1719
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,040
for at the beginning of the
season.

1720
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,400
So I mean.
I'm gonna stick by that.

1721
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,640
Yeah, yes, Virginia Tech is
going to make a, a, a bogey.

1722
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,280
I mean, I'm sure we'll get the
predictions later.

1723
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,000
Curtis, do you mind if I chime
in on one thing that you said

1724
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,280
about the wide receiver room?
It's funny.

1725
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,640
So I practice on what's today,
Today's Tuesday.

1726
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,840
I practice on Friday.
Last week, Brent Pryor walked up

1727
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:06,720
to me.
I wouldn't.

1728
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,880
I was looking at 1 field.
He walked up behind me and

1729
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,040
tapped me on the shoulder and
was like, dude, I tell you who's

1730
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,560
going to be a really great story
this year is Steven Gosnell.

1731
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,320
He's like that guy.
Steven's wearing blue right now,

1732
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:27,400
but he is he basically after
tearing his ACL in the military,

1733
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:28,680
Bowl said.
He.

1734
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,480
He's going to rehab almost
faster than anybody else has

1735
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,880
ever had ever rehab from an ACL.
He's basically full go.

1736
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,360
He's just wearing blue.
Brent Pryor was like, I've

1737
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,800
never, he told me he's like,
I've never seen a guy wear blue

1738
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,520
dive as much and be as physical
as much in practice as Steven

1739
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,480
Gosnell.
I think he is maybe the most

1740
01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:51,600
crucial guy to that wide
receiver room.

1741
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:57,000
He didn't have as many catches,
but almost every single one of

1742
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,000
those were third down catches
last year.

1743
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,680
But he was a go to guy in key
spots.

1744
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,600
Now.
I think the biggest question is

1745
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,560
what is the the run pass split
look like?

1746
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,840
I think that will answer a lot
of these questions.

1747
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,400
Danny, you talked about the
running backs.

1748
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,240
Pete, you talked about the wide
receivers.

1749
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,560
There's talent all all over the
board.

1750
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,440
It doesn't really matter who
gets the ball.

1751
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,160
You know, they're probably going
to do good things with it.

1752
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,480
You even look at the tight end
room.

1753
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,120
You saw Benji Gosnell and
Harrison St.

1754
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,240
Germain both catch passes in the
in the military bowl.

1755
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,760
And you've got a guy back in
Nick Gallo who's a reliable

1756
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,880
option, albeit he is not, you
know, the the a guy who catches,

1757
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,760
you know, mobile touchdowns
season.

1758
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,960
But you've got options all over
the field.

1759
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,160
How Tyler Bowen kind of balances
this thing, you know, mixing up

1760
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,280
the runs versus mixing up the
passes.

1761
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:47,440
Virginia Tech has weapons all
across the board.

1762
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:50,920
And I I think credit to Bowen
and all the position coaches and

1763
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:55,800
to Brent Pryor for kind of
revamping this entire offense.

1764
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,440
Curtis, you, you open the show
talking about last year,

1765
01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:02,800
Virginia Tech was one in three.
And I think there were a lot of

1766
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,360
people questioning what in the
world Tyler Bowen was doing

1767
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,800
through the first four games.
Part of that is probably

1768
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,800
starting the wrong quarterback,
but now that you know, got Kyron

1769
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,360
drones in place, you got
everybody back.

1770
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,240
What does this offense look
like?

1771
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,400
A lot of expectations.
But when you have everybody back

1772
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:21,640
and you've Got Talent across the
border, man, it's all systems

1773
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,640
go.
And I think that is the most

1774
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,680
exciting part this year.
It's like this could go one of

1775
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:32,280
many ways, but it's not like
there's a situation when when

1776
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,120
Virginia Tech is playing, it's
not like, oh man, you know,

1777
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,800
they're you know, Virginia Tech
doesn't have wide receiver depth

1778
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:38,960
there.
Oh man, Virginia Tech doesn't

1779
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,960
have running back depth or tight
end depth, right?

1780
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,400
It it's there across the board.
And I think that is something we

1781
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,560
have not seen for a really long
time.

1782
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,920
And David, it is unbelievable.
All this stuff you laid out in

1783
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,720
terms of the depth and just
think about two years ago when

1784
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,920
Caleb Smith is our leading wide
receiver, probably our four

1785
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,200
through 6 wide receiver would be
the number 2 on this team.

1786
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,320
I mean, and, and maybe even
farther down.

1787
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,480
That's how the depth has been
built out in such a short period

1788
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,240
of time.
And including the past catchers,

1789
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,280
the tight end, it's
unbelievable.

1790
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,720
And this is going to be a
problem for Tyler Bone in terms

1791
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,320
of how do you balance it?
It's a good problem, but it's

1792
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:20,040
it's the Team USA basketball
problem of like, I don't know

1793
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,280
who to play because all these
guys are pretty good.

1794
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,840
Yeah, it'll it'll definitely be
interesting to see how that go

1795
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:27,560
ahead.
Go ahead, Robbie.

1796
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,280
That's what I was going to say.
I mean, when we've all followed

1797
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,960
this long enough, when was the
last time you could name 6 wide

1798
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:39,000
receivers at Virginia Tech that
you could say, I feel fine with

1799
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,400
any of them playing at any point
in time?

1800
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:41,200
That's true.
That's true.

1801
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,720
It's been, I mean, we're
talking, we might be getting

1802
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:49,280
closer to 1900s, as my kids say.
I mean, we're getting, we're

1803
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:53,120
getting back to a point at the
end of the 90s towards the early

1804
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:58,240
2000s before you can talk about
5 or 6 receivers that can do

1805
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,720
that.
And then we were in college,

1806
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,640
Robbie.
That was a.

1807
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,400
Clowny.
Yeah, we were in college doing

1808
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,840
stupid.
Things, yeah, there's probably

1809
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,680
why my memory is bad, but you've
got the the running backs to

1810
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,280
back it up.
You've got the tight ends to

1811
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,760
help there.
I mean, it's just like you say,

1812
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,840
it's, it's a problem to see if
you can spread out all of the

1813
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,320
balls and and all of the carries
and everything.

1814
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,120
But it's a great problem to have
as a coach.

1815
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,680
It's a great problem to have.
And if the if the players buy

1816
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:35,080
into the fact that we're
successful because of how the

1817
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:39,280
group works together and not
just I got to catch my balls to

1818
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:43,600
get to the next one, man, the
Sky's going to be the limit.

1819
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,560
That's why when Shelton brought
up the 41 catches As for the

1820
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:52,040
leader last year, is that is
that the ceiling like for the

1821
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,520
leader?
Like what's the most that any

1822
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,760
player on this team could even
have like 50?

1823
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,760
Like Allie Jennings had five in
the first game.

1824
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,800
And that was before we kind of
knew who Felton and Lane and all

1825
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,000
those guys were.
But if you extrapolate that out,

1826
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,080
that would be 60 catches.
He's not going to probably get

1827
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,680
60 catches this year.
If he gets 50, that'd be

1828
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,360
excellent.
But but Pete, but hold on.

1829
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,040
I want to go back to some Don B
said in segment one y'all were

1830
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,680
listening.
If Kyron drone takes that step,

1831
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,240
there's no telling what the
leading receiver is going to end

1832
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,440
up with because he he threw 285
were here his temps last year.

1833
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,280
If you tell me he improves and
and y'all heard it process it

1834
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,560
directly to us.
I'm sure David he said it to

1835
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,120
you, Danny.
You've probably heard him say

1836
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,960
it.
The windows have please put it

1837
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,160
in the right spot.
He's getting it better into the

1838
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,960
windows.
If that happens, we, we, we

1839
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,640
might be sitting here in
December and saying, holy crap,

1840
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,640
the leading receiver did have 65
catches.

1841
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,680
That's in like in, that's on.
That's on Kyron.

1842
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,920
And it's based on completion
percentage and, and how many

1843
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,840
snaps they get, right?
Because if the defense plays

1844
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,080
better, we're going to get more
offensive snaps.

1845
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,480
And if Chiron completes more
passes, there's going to be more

1846
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,520
catches.
So it will all kind of work in

1847
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:05,720
harmony.
But that's an interesting

1848
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,160
thought, Curtis.
Yeah.

1849
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,400
And I think the the other thing
is you've got to balance Bashel

1850
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,760
Tooten too.
Like my biggest impression from

1851
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,000
those first four games last year
is they didn't use enough.

1852
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,920
I mean, think about the think
about the Purdue game.

1853
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,160
Grant Wells was the starting
quarterback at the time.

1854
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,680
Virginia Tech I don't think had
five rushing yards like it was.

1855
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,440
It just did not work like
against Marshall.

1856
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:31,280
Bashel Tooten ran the ball well.
And then Tech just stop running

1857
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:34,000
the ball.
But he's a potential. 1000 yard

1858
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,240
rusher sitting in that room.
So you've got all these wide

1859
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,600
receivers and it's like you've
got a guy in Bashel Tooten and

1860
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,520
Kyron drones who could be 1000
yard rusher in himself, right.

1861
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,160
It's and that's what that when
you guys talk about, man, this

1862
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,080
is a big problem for Tyler
Bowen.

1863
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,920
You bet you'd rather have this
than have what you know, it

1864
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,080
happened in 2021 and 2022.
Where is your only option?

1865
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,880
Yeah.
By the way, I pulled up Andy

1866
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,920
Bitter's story from a couple
weeks ago on the wide receiver

1867
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,280
room.
My colleague and he about.

1868
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,240
I wanted to get the Gosnell fact
right.

1869
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,320
Gosnell had 22 catches last
year. 16 of them were first

1870
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,640
downs.
So that kind of just shows you

1871
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,920
his ability, right.
And, and Pete, you mentioned the

1872
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,200
freshman.
I think Chan's is the one that

1873
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,680
has really stood out the most to
me.

1874
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,520
I, I, I think he and, and Keelan
Adams are, are, are two really

1875
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,800
good talents.
But I mean, like you said,

1876
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,120
Robbie, if, if you guys have
eight to 10 wide receivers that

1877
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:35,760
you can name that you feel
confident about, man, like, you

1878
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,400
know, it's, it's going to be
really, really interesting to

1879
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:43,120
see how Fontell mines, you know,
and Elijah Brooks.

1880
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:49,000
These guys kind of just manage
their rotation at their specific

1881
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,320
position because there are only
so many catches to go around.

1882
01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:55,640
Think, think about the
possibility we could be looking

1883
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,480
four months from now.
We can have, you could be

1884
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:03,160
looking at 4 wide receivers with
30 to 40 catches or more, five

1885
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,880
or six touchdowns.
You've got two rushers 800 yards

1886
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,880
apiece, one being a quarterback,
and you've got Malachi Thomas

1887
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:14,200
who could run for 5-6 hundred.
Where where does that put you at

1888
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,280
the end?
Offensively, it puts a lot of

1889
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,840
points on the board is what it
does.

1890
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,520
A lot of yards, a lot of points.
And I mean, that's, that's a big

1891
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,320
thing.
If you get a lot of yards and

1892
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,000
not a lot of points out of it,
then we'll find a problem.

1893
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,600
But.
We got a big problem, Sheldon.

1894
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,520
It's going to be hard for those
those kind of yards not to turn

1895
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,320
into points.
Yeah, by the way, to answer your

1896
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,240
question, Robbie, when was the
last time we had this many

1897
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,000
receivers we could depend on?
I'd go in 1971, Don Strzok led

1898
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,720
the country in passing yards,
Air Raid offense, very prolific

1899
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,680
through to Mike Burnett, by the
way, a lot of people forget

1900
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,400
that, but he did.
He was a, he was a Mike Burnett

1901
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:52,200
merchant, They would say so.
But looking forward to seeing

1902
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,680
how the passing game evolves
this year.

1903
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,120
So let's talk about everyone's
favorite topic, the schedule.

1904
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,920
I would like to dive into the
opponents this year.

1905
01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:02,560
I am a big believer that you
should never, ever overlook a

1906
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,280
single opponent, take nothing
for granted and comfortable this

1907
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,160
unpredictable sport that we all
watch and love.

1908
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,640
Now, we saw Virginia Tech have a
lot of trouble with Rutgers last

1909
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,160
year with a physical team.
I think we could see a lot of

1910
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,800
the same this year.
Even though that game's gonna be

1911
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,720
out lane, I think that's an
opponent that I look at on the

1912
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,160
schedule that's, you know, gives
me a little bit of concern.

1913
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,120
So I will pose a question to you
guys.

1914
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,760
Let's start with Danny, who is
in opponents on this schedule

1915
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,440
for Virginia Tech that you think
might be a little bit underrated

1916
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,320
and could give this team a
little bit of trouble that maybe

1917
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,000
fans aren't taking seriously
enough?

1918
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,680
Well, I think the obvious answer
there is, is definitely Rutgers,

1919
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,120
you know, because Rutgers hasn't
really been an established

1920
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,960
consistent winning football
program in in quite some time.

1921
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,000
And they've, they've had some
interesting things happen to

1922
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,880
that program over there.
You know, I would say I would

1923
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,440
as, as I look up and down the
schedule, though, I think going

1924
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:58,280
to Stanford is a game that is,
is probably going to be a pretty

1925
01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,800
big headache.
You're going to the other side

1926
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,440
of the country.
You're, you're going almost as

1927
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:04,000
far away from Blacksburg as you
can go.

1928
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,520
And it's a team that you're not
particularly familiar with at

1929
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,760
the stadium that, that no one in
this program is particularly

1930
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,280
familiar with.
So I, I look at that, I look at

1931
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,080
that Stanford game and, and with
them coming in, being members of

1932
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,720
the ACC, now the pressure's
going to be ratcheted because

1933
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:19,880
that's going to be a conference
game.

1934
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,600
You need to go and win that.
But you know, like you guys are

1935
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,800
talking about it.
I think each and every one of

1936
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,800
these games is, is going to take
a unique mental prep

1937
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,240
preparedness to, to go and win
these games.

1938
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,120
You know, you're talking about
the, the, the talent at both

1939
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,200
wide receiver and, and, and
running back and how it's going

1940
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,920
to be difficult for Tyler Bowen
to figure out where he ends up,

1941
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,200
you know, giving most of the,
the looks to.

1942
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,720
But it's going to change from
week to week depending on who

1943
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,720
they're playing, depending on
what your opponent's strengths

1944
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,640
are.
Because the reality is their

1945
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,960
passing game's going to need to
be better some days and the

1946
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,160
running game's going to be going
to be need to be better some

1947
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,320
days, right?
Like against Rutgers, you

1948
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,800
mentioned Shelton, physical
football team might be a little

1949
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,600
bit harder to run the ball.
You're going to probably need to

1950
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,560
hit some things over the top to
to and not turn the football

1951
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,440
over right.
That's that's always the the

1952
01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:11,320
first key thing that that any
team needs to do to go and win

1953
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:12,800
football games.
But if we're talking about

1954
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,360
schedule games that give me a
little bit of heartburn outside

1955
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,600
of the obvious ones like Miami
and Clemson and and since you

1956
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,720
already mentioned it in Rutgers,
Shelton, I'm I'll say Stanford.

1957
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,600
OK, Stanford.
It is Deaconna, an opponent this

1958
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,560
year that Hokies cannot afford
to overlook.

1959
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,200
I think Georgia Tech is you
know, I don't I don't wanna.

1960
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,440
Sorry.
De Curtis, did I take your I?

1961
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:37,400
Took my answer.
I'm with you, Deaconna.

1962
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:38,400
It's it.
No, no, I, I.

1963
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:43,520
Think you know, I think Rutgers
is the obvious one in in my

1964
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,880
opinion Rutgers is the biggest
game on Virginia Tech schedule

1965
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,880
because it's the first good test
against a good team.

1966
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,360
Virginia Tech has not beaten a
good team in the brunt priority

1967
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,320
yet.
That's why Rutgers is up there

1968
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,480
but nobody's over.
I don't think anybody really

1969
01:42:56,480 --> 01:42:59,960
under looking Rutgers.
I think those people who I mean

1970
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,680
those people who know football
understand that that Rutgers is

1971
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,320
a really good testing trenches.
I I think Georgia Tech is just

1972
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:09,480
interesting though.
I mean, this is the the battle

1973
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:11,360
of the Techs.
This is the battle of the brands

1974
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:17,800
and Georgia Tech is a team that
Jamal Haynes last year ran for

1975
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,440
almost 1100 yards as Georgia
Tech's running back.

1976
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,600
Haynes King had almost 800 yards
on the ground as Georgia Tech's

1977
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,760
quarterback.
That is maybe the only other duo

1978
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:32,600
in the in the ACC returning that
has a potential thousand yard

1979
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:36,320
rusher at running back and at
quarterback like Virginia Tech.

1980
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,880
And I think that is that is one.
Where?

1981
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,560
Georgia Tech.
In under, under Brett Key, it is

1982
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,560
just this very unique team.
Now this schedule, if you've

1983
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,560
seen the Yellowjacket schedule,
it's all over the place, maybe

1984
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:54,680
the toughest in the ACC.
So how they come in mentally

1985
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,440
will be very, very interesting.
But I think that is a game that

1986
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:00,400
Virginia Tech should win.
It's at home.

1987
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:05,000
It's the better team, but it
will have to stop the run.

1988
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,680
And if you watched Virginia Tech
play last year, you know that

1989
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:10,760
stopping the run was a struggle
at time.

1990
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,040
So I think that is a game we
will know, I think by then

1991
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,880
whether or not the Hokies can
stop the run well, whether they

1992
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,400
can fit the run well, something
they did not do well in 2023.

1993
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,600
But that that Georgia Tech game
is is quiet, you know, kind of

1994
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,120
comes after that Thursday night
Boston College game.

1995
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:32,400
And depending on where Virginia
Tech is, you got Clemson looking

1996
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,000
down the road not too far after
Syracuse.

1997
01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:40,040
It falls in a peculiar window in
in October where it'll be a

1998
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,480
little bit chillier in
Blacksburg and if the Hokies are

1999
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:47,600
on a high, that's a team that
that could scare you PP besides

2000
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,440
obvious Miami and Clemson, who
is the team that is keeping you

2001
01:44:50,440 --> 01:44:55,000
up in the IT?
You know that Stanford was a

2002
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,240
good answer by Danny because
Troy Taylor in year two.

2003
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,200
I thought like there could be a
little bit of a leap there,

2004
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:02,480
something that people aren't
prepared for.

2005
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:06,120
And just the fact that it's
after Miami, it concerns me

2006
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,320
because it's back-to-back
roadies on corners of the

2007
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:14,880
country that are very far away.
But the Dome, I I think TSL

2008
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,000
talked about the Dome a little
bit.

2009
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,600
That's terrifying.
I'll just I'll go with an with

2010
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:20,560
with an easy.
We're not overlooking it because

2011
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,880
it's game one, but we overlook
it because of the opponent.

2012
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:28,720
And that's Vandy and you got
Diego pissin Pavia coming over

2013
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,360
from New Mexico State.
You got Jerry kill, a guy who

2014
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:35,600
was in our building and improved
our run game and our team on

2015
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,520
their side as the assistant to
the head coach.

2016
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,760
Clark Lee, their head coach has
now taken over the DC duties,

2017
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,440
which is probably an act of
desperation, but nevertheless a

2018
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:47,720
little bit more of a focus on
the defensive side of the ball.

2019
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,000
And they got Tim back as the
offensive coordinator.

2020
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:54,040
So you have a completely new
system, new scheme, new

2021
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,640
quarterback and I don't know if
you guys been paying attention

2022
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,680
to Vandy on on online or
whatever.

2023
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,440
They feel confident.
I don't I'm not sure exactly why

2024
01:46:02,440 --> 01:46:04,840
because they lost like the last
10 games of their season, but

2025
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,920
they feel confident and I don't
want to go down to Nashville

2026
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:10,880
just thinking that's a walk
over.

2027
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,040
Like this is a game we
absolutely need to be ready and

2028
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,720
focused for.
I know pry we'll have them ready

2029
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,240
and focused.
It's just it is a game that I'm

2030
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,520
going to the game.
I I don't want to be in

2031
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,520
Nashville after a loss.
And so it is keeping me up at

2032
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,520
night just just a little, just a
little.

2033
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,200
All right, Robbie, underrated
opponent.

2034
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,600
Who does Vt need to take
seriously?

2035
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,560
I don't know if it's so much the
opponent as it could be the

2036
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,800
mindset.
As a coach, we look at, OK,

2037
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:45,920
you're going to have a huge
rivalry game and I'm pretty sure

2038
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,800
it's a night game against Miami.
But early next.

2039
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:54,320
Week you have Stanford, who
you're going to, if I'm correct,

2040
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,680
you're going to travel to you're
going cross country.

2041
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,360
So you come off of a huge game
with a lot of emotion.

2042
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:05,080
You're traveling across country
knowing that you're going to

2043
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:10,720
play a team that's not very good
technically and you've got a

2044
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,760
week off afterwards.
I, I think to me that's, that

2045
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,760
scares me as a coach.
Where's the mindset for that

2046
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,080
game sitting in between us with
a most emotional game to start

2047
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:27,400
off with and then a bye week
afterwards?

2048
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:31,640
That that that one concerns me
not because so much of the

2049
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:35,880
opponent, but just the dynamic
of the entire situation.

2050
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,080
It bothers me a little bit.
We always look at opponents as

2051
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:44,000
coaches right before a bye week
as OK, we got to get through

2052
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,960
this to get to a spot where we
can rest a little bit.

2053
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:51,920
And when that opponent is not
the spectacular hard fought

2054
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,080
people that you got to earn that
bye week, you already start to

2055
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:58,280
think about that.
And the coaches have to have to

2056
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:01,200
work through that and say, well
we can't overlook these guys.

2057
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,640
We're going cross country to
play them after after a.

2058
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,000
Brawl.
In Blacksburg with Miami.

2059
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:13,720
South Beach.
Still, yeah, you got to travel

2060
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,200
down there and go through that
emotion and then travel across

2061
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,000
country.
I think that's a big thing that

2062
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,240
they're going to have to
overcome, and I think that's

2063
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:25,800
where they win.
But, you know, yeah, one of

2064
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:30,680
those close ones that makes us
all drop some little Jeremy's

2065
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:34,160
here, you know what I mean?
I just.

2066
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,000
Kind of problems me a little bit
all.

2067
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,880
Right.
All right, so Connor, you did

2068
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,600
take mine.
Georgia Tech scares me.

2069
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,520
And Pete, you mentioned it, the
Carrier Dome.

2070
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:48,080
It's almost like what Robbie
said, get there and there's a

2071
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,240
certain number of wins next to
your name.

2072
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,520
And Clemson's on the horizon in
Blacksburg.

2073
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,840
The build is coming up.
That game scares me.

2074
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,320
I hate that place.
I hate that place.

2075
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,880
That's all you got to think that
that place sucks.

2076
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:04,280
The players hate it.
Too that I hate it.

2077
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,160
I've had two former players, one
at NC State and one at Clemson,

2078
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,000
that have played multiple games
in that Dome and they said it is

2079
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,000
the absolute worst place in the
world to play because you can't

2080
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,880
hear a damn thing.
Even when they're.

2081
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,680
Terrible.
You can't hear a damn thing.

2082
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,680
All right, so we're going to
wrap up this segment real quick

2083
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:29,000
here, and I'm going to take what
we took from the first one.

2084
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,280
Don't give me an illicit
response.

2085
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,080
If Blank improves, the Hokies
will win 10 games.

2086
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,000
Raleigh.
Consistency, if they're

2087
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,960
consistent with what the run
fields we talked about, the

2088
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:48,280
rotations, the the offensive
line consistency, that's what we

2089
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:51,920
didn't see a lot of times until
the very end last year.

2090
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:54,680
At the beginning, consistency
hurt us.

2091
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:59,200
If the consistency gets better
throughout the team they're

2092
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:00,560
going to, they're going to get
there.

2093
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:06,200
Pete.
I was run, Fitz and Robbie kind

2094
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,360
of said in his answer.
But that's, that's the thing for

2095
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:09,600
me.
I was it's going to go with

2096
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,960
tackling, but more specific run
fits.

2097
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,760
We saw it against Purdue, saw it
a couple other times last year.

2098
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,800
If that gets better, this
defense will take a giant step

2099
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,200
forward.
And it was a good defense last

2100
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,640
year, it was a top 25 defense,
which we all, how do we wrap our

2101
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,600
heads around as bad as the run
feels were early, still a top 25

2102
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:28,160
defense, Danny.
Impressiveness.

2103
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,280
I'm going to stick with my theme
of the running game and and I'm

2104
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,840
just going to say the running
game, right, the running game,

2105
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,320
if that improves, they'll win 10
games because someone at some

2106
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,400
point here.
Over the last. 45 minutes have

2107
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,160
mentioned Tootin has the
potential to be a 1000 yard

2108
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,600
rusher.
Tootin should be a 1000 yard

2109
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,120
rusher.
There's no doubt in my mind.

2110
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,120
He was at what, 850 or something
last year and and they really

2111
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:50,560
didn't figure out how to use
him.

2112
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,560
They didn't really figure out
how to use anybody on their

2113
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,280
offense until the fifth game of
the season.

2114
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:58,840
So if if Tooten, it has a good
season and the running game

2115
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,600
overall is effective.
I think obviously Tooten himself

2116
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,760
is having a Goodyear.
Malachi Thomas is probably

2117
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,480
subbing out in or subbing in and
and providing some support for

2118
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:09,320
that.
Also run the ball well.

2119
01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:10,960
That also means you're blocking
well.

2120
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,720
And, and for Virginia Tech, I
heard the guys in the first

2121
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,160
segment talking about this.
They don't have a ton of depth

2122
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:19,800
on the offensive line.
So they need health to to make

2123
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,360
it through a a physical ACC
season.

2124
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,120
If you're talking about running
the ball effectively and doing

2125
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,000
it consistently like Robbie was
saying, so I'll I'll I'll say

2126
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,520
the running game if they're able
to do that and and the one guy

2127
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,080
didn't mention there is Kyron
drones.

2128
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:36,520
He can also be the the absolute
nightmare for defensive

2129
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,040
coordinators to try and stop in
the run game.

2130
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,920
David.
If Virginia Tech's play in the

2131
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:48,000
trenches improves, the Hokies
will win 10 games, I think.

2132
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,640
I mean, Chris Coleman, Mike, all
your Tech sideline wrote about

2133
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:55,880
this today.
This is the JC Price we've heard

2134
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,280
through the Grapevine has said
that this is a better defensive

2135
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:03,040
line unit than last year.
And that's saying a lot because

2136
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,280
last year's defensive line was
pretty good.

2137
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,680
You've got the transfers we
already talked about.

2138
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,560
You've got Antoine Powell,
Ryland Cole Nelson, Keyshawn

2139
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,040
Burgos, CJ McRae.
That is a loaded defensive line.

2140
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,640
But there were some games last
year, NC State, Louisville,

2141
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,080
Florida State, those guys got
pushed off the ball.

2142
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:26,600
Rutgers, the hokey Rutgers.
If the Hokies can be better in

2143
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,280
on both sides of the ball, in
the trenches, and I already

2144
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:34,280
talked about the offensive line,
if the Hokies are better in

2145
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,560
those trenches where the battles
are won, they're going to win.

2146
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,360
They will have the good
opportunity to win 10 games

2147
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,680
because if you go into that
Rutgers game and you are pushing

2148
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:47,280
Rutgers around, not like what
happened last year, you have

2149
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,560
control of that football game.
I think everybody in here would

2150
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,240
agree that that is one of the
biggest keys to football and I

2151
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:59,120
think we saw it at times.
Virginia Tech defensively, that

2152
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,920
defensive line just eight teams
up last year, the teams that

2153
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,840
weren't very good.
Taking that next step is to do

2154
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,640
it against good.
Teams, Yes, Sheldon, I'm going

2155
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:13,520
to let you cap it off here.
I'll go safeties, man.

2156
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,600
I mean, I think they they got
the linebacker.

2157
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,160
You improved.
You know, the online is going to

2158
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,680
get better with experience.
I'm just kind of concerned about

2159
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,200
that safety room because they
they had some struggles last

2160
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:23,240
year.
You still got a little bit of

2161
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:26,280
experience there and you know,
they they their their poor run

2162
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,080
fits kind of led to a lot of big
plays in the secondary.

2163
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,200
So they get that safety room a
little bit fixed up.

2164
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,520
I think the defense will take a
big step and the offense kind of

2165
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:34,040
you expect them to be pretty
good.

2166
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,960
That that'd be the best recipe I
think for ten wins.

2167
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,000
All righty.
Well listen guys we have talked

2168
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:45,400
just under an hour here.
David, Danny, Pete, Robbie,

2169
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,320
thank you all for joining us
Robbie.

2170
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:48,720
Robbie is going to stay on with
this.

2171
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:50,840
Robbie was supposed to be in our
third segment.

2172
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,480
Shout out Mike McDaniel.
Mike Mcdaniel's got sick kid at

2173
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:56,120
home.
Mike was going to join us he

2174
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,160
couldn't.
We love you Mike.

2175
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,760
I hope the kid feels better
tomorrow.

2176
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,320
David, Pete, Danny, I hope to
see y'all sometime this season.

2177
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,360
Cheers boys and go Hokies, we
got a little something something

2178
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,680
for y'all now created by our man
at BCP, Jack Day.

2179
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,040
Transfer from Coastal Carolina
who has not played in three

2180
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,720
years.
From. 38 The snap gets away.

2181
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,480
Oh boy, this is a whole mess.
Whole Dominion is going to pick

2182
01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:28,240
it up.
It's going to be a scoop and

2183
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:35,560
score touchdown.
Monarchs, Robert Kennedy.

2184
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:48,520
The Safety.
One of the greatest and most

2185
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,920
intimidating venues in all in
college football.

2186
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:54,760
Keeps the legs.
Churning.

2187
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,360
And he has spun around and
dropped, and that is Norell.

2188
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:19,320
He dies.
The temperament, the attitude,

2189
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,520
the way we set our God.
To play the game here.

2190
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:34,240
This time intercepted.
He's near the Brotherhood.

2191
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,680
That's when.
Virginia attacks the muscle.

2192
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:57,600
That videos got me ready to
play.

2193
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:03,760
Damn right.
By the way, shout out to Jack

2194
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,320
Day, all that stuff all the
content y'all see on Instagram,

2195
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:14,040
Twitter with those reels and
stuff his Jack he is he is kind

2196
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:19,960
of the man effectually behind
the scenes doing stuff for us in

2197
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:24,000
Lego there you go Jack all day
day, absolutely absolutely

2198
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,760
fellas.
We got to segment three, hey.

2199
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,280
We're under two hours starting
segment 3.

2200
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,560
That's an improvement.
We wanted it to be with 90

2201
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:34,360
minutes.
We made it.

2202
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,880
We wanted it to, barely, but we
made it because Brian ain't here

2203
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,360
yet.
Unfortunately, we couldn't meet

2204
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:42,400
the quota that that Jeremy sent
in the first one.

2205
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:45,000
No, no, not even.
Only think we have one.

2206
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,320
Hey you.
Threw a couple there, Robbie.

2207
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:50,920
We got to take the alcohol from
there just.

2208
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:52,600
Show it.
I just show it.

2209
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,920
Just the we're.
Getting ready to go back to

2210
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,440
school.
I got to get in school mode.

2211
01:56:58,440 --> 01:56:59,840
I got to cut those down a little
bit.

2212
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:01,920
I can't be throwing those out in
the middle of class.

2213
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,520
There we go, all righty.
Well we have finally got to

2214
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,960
segment 3.
Robbie's going to stay with us.

2215
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,800
He was supposed to be here in
segment 3.

2216
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,520
Again, Mike McDaniel will hope
the kids OK man.

2217
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:18,480
But fellas, we got to that.
Have been on with us before.

2218
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,720
Always a fun time.
First man I want to introduce,

2219
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:27,920
he is one of the sons of
Saturday, former Virginia Tech

2220
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,960
offensive lineman Mr. Billy Ray
Mitchell.

2221
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:34,720
What's going on?
Good to see everybody.

2222
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,600
This is one of my favorite
nights every single year.

2223
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,880
I have to say just hats off to
you all for putting this

2224
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:41,680
together.
I know this is not easy.

2225
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,200
I get a little I tell Pete all
the time.

2226
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,480
I get a little squirrely when
there's more than two people in

2227
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:49,440
here and you guys are running
with the with the what is it the

2228
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:53,440
NFL box that they run?
But you're talking to him.

2229
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,800
So you guys do a great job.
I appreciate y'all putting this

2230
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,280
together.
So Billy, we, we always got to

2231
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,440
know you're always somewhere
different.

2232
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,280
Where are you tonight?
Cross country bill.

2233
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:07,720
So I did just sign, I did just
sign a lease in Charlotte, NC,

2234
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:11,520
but I'm spending this month in,
but I'm spending this month in

2235
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,160
San Diego.
So I've been in San Diego since

2236
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:19,880
since July 26th.
I leave August 25th or 26th.

2237
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,520
So I'm out here in Crown Point
enjoying some time with a bunch

2238
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,480
of buddies that I met out here
during during my cross country

2239
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:28,200
trip.
And then then I'm going to

2240
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,840
chill.
I need to stop traveling around

2241
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,560
is a lot of fun, but I I need to
be able to go to a restaurant

2242
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,840
and get the get the regular and
have people know what I'm

2243
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:38,040
talking about.
So excited so.

2244
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,760
Charlotte's going to be the
roots for at least the

2245
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:44,560
foreseeable future, then.
Charlotte, I signed a 16 month

2246
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,000
lease.
It's my first lease since 2019.

2247
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,840
So excited to excited to be
there.

2248
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,520
I'm excited, excited to to lay
some roots down.

2249
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,640
It's going to be nice.
I'm about an hour and 20 minutes

2250
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,320
north of Charlotte.
We'll have to catch up one day.

2251
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,520
Coach, we will do that.
We will do that, Coach, Looking

2252
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:04,120
forward to it.
I just got a question.

2253
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:08,640
You said a sixteen month lease.
Yeah, because I'm spending two

2254
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,480
out here in California.
If I'm trying to actually

2255
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:14,400
evaluate, you know, Charlotte is
this, am I long for Charlotte?

2256
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,840
We can't just do 10 months.
So, you know, I say, hey, look,

2257
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,320
I need your price match.
Give me 16 months.

2258
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,080
You got the pool, you got some
nice amenities here.

2259
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,160
I'm going to sign for a little
longer, but you're going to give

2260
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,200
me a price break.
You're already giving me the two

2261
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,520
months for free.
So technically it's a 14 month

2262
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:29,920
lease.
I'll only be there for 15.

2263
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:32,600
The math makes sense in my in my
head, so.

2264
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,240
Sons of negotiating.
That's right.

2265
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:36,400
That's right.
You got it.

2266
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,720
You got to, you got to make it
shake somehow.

2267
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:42,160
So it ended up working out.
I will answer Pat because I did

2268
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:45,560
want to talk about it.
This was a cop from one of the

2269
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:50,360
coffee shops in Blacksburg.
It is a Hokies pep band Jean

2270
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,280
long sleeve shirt.
Shout out to all of the the

2271
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,600
thrift stores in Blacksburg.
They do a great job.

2272
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:00,160
But one of my favorite favorite
cops as of recently.

2273
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:04,320
So thank you Pat for teeing me
up to brag about my shirt.

2274
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:10,240
Well, this next guy needs no
introduction.

2275
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:18,280
He is the the OG the the the
founder of I think honestly

2276
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:22,040
everything from content creation
and and things on Twitter

2277
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,200
because he's been doing it
pretty much since he hung up the

2278
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,720
cleats.
Dwight Vick Dwight, How we

2279
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,920
living, man.
I'm good, I'm good.

2280
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,200
You got a lot of you got a lot
of headroom there.

2281
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,160
You're making yourself look
shorter than you really are.

2282
02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:36,560
I don't know why it's looking
like there.

2283
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,000
We go there.
We.

2284
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,840
Go.
Yeah, I don't know, man.

2285
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,320
Am I, you know, my Wi-Fi here is
am I am I glitching?

2286
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:44,600
Am I good?
No, you're good.

2287
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:46,200
OK, Loud and.
Clear you.

2288
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:51,160
Look, good, good, good.
Yeah, y'all got me on this TNT

2289
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:54,160
Lakers versus Memphis time, man,
1030 football man.

2290
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:59,360
I'm like bro, like I'm sitting
here like, you know what I'm

2291
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:00,480
saying?
I mean, you know, ads.

2292
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,240
But now it's been great, man.
It's great to be back on.

2293
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:04,200
You know, I'm like Billy, man,
this time of year it kind of

2294
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,320
sluck up on me the season.
You know, I've been following it

2295
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:12,160
and see all the stuff, the sons
of post and you guys Curtis

2296
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:14,720
always doing great work.
Like I said, the sons and

2297
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:18,320
everybody, man, just you know,
tech's got a great podcast

2298
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,680
family, so I appreciate y'all
having me on man.

2299
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:23,720
So I'm going to say to share my
insight.

2300
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,200
I'm not the guru.
I just speak on what I know

2301
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,680
this.
If this podcast was about

2302
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,520
electrical engineering, I
wouldn't be on here.

2303
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,680
You know what I'm saying?
I speak on.

2304
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:33,760
I speak on what I know.
Let.

2305
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,880
Me, let me let me say one thing
on that note.

2306
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:41,200
I think, I think we have been so
spoiled these last few years

2307
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:44,400
with an ACC championship in
men's basketball, ACC

2308
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,600
championship in women's
basketball, Final Four.

2309
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,840
And I'm kind of I'm fired up for
basketball.

2310
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,320
I'm fired up for football
season.

2311
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:53,600
And then we got it.
We got to figure it out.

2312
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,760
Coach Duffy, I'm hoping that you
that you continue the success

2313
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,640
with women's basketball.
I hope that men's basketball has

2314
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,400
a good year this year because
the off seasons have been a lot

2315
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:06,000
easier than they have been in
Virginia Tech history when

2316
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,600
football kind of was struggling
to keep it together.

2317
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,920
So let's squeeze all of the
juice out of this football

2318
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:15,400
season and let's find a way to
keep it rolling when when we do

2319
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,520
get into the offseason.
We've been very, very lucky

2320
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:18,920
these past few years.
So.

2321
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:22,440
Yes, Wilson.
Yeah, it it's it's nice having

2322
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,400
having those winter sports,
those spring sports kind of

2323
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:29,320
carry that that path through the
offseason, give you something to

2324
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:31,840
talk about.
And it's it's nice winning a

2325
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:35,000
little bit and and being able to
celebrate that, celebrate that

2326
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,280
in Blacksburg, celebrate the
community and celebrate what

2327
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,520
Virginia Tech's all about.
A. 100%.

2328
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:45,960
So let's kick it off here.
You know, we've got, I want to

2329
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,680
throw this one to Billy because
you know, we've, we've been

2330
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:52,360
talking a lot on Twitter.
We talked off off camera, we

2331
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:56,160
talked on the phone, You know,
let's talk scholarship limits in

2332
02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:57,400
NIL.
So we're going to, we're going

2333
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:01,360
to get right into the to the
grease here real quick because

2334
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:04,960
we had the, you know, the, the
new rule out there, scholarship

2335
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:09,680
limits are up.
You can use NIO money, you can

2336
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,760
commingle that with athletic
department money.

2337
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,920
Now everything is kind of
treated the same.

2338
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:17,400
You got coaches wearing we pay
players shirts at practice.

2339
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:21,360
Damn.
Sell me on this being a net

2340
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,320
benefit for the Hokies under
Brent Fry.

2341
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:28,480
So first and foremost, for those
that don't know, I do work in

2342
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,320
the NIL space.
I work for a company called

2343
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:35,200
Student Athlete NIL on the
scholarship limits situation.

2344
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:38,480
I'm going to have a hard time
selling you on this being a

2345
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:42,160
positive for Virginia Tech or
really anybody that is in a blue

2346
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,080
blood program.
And the reason that I say that

2347
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:49,400
is you look back 40 years ago,
30 years ago, and why Alabama

2348
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,920
was so dominant, why Army was so
dominant, why Oklahoma was so

2349
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:54,440
dominant is they could take
everybody.

2350
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:57,920
They could take 30 kids in a
class, they could take 40 kids

2351
02:03:57,920 --> 02:03:59,960
in a class and it really didn't
matter.

2352
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,200
Now we're at a point where you
have this scholarship limit that

2353
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,000
is up to what, 100 and 10105
different players?

2354
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,840
You're having all those players
on scholarship, so these blue

2355
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,360
blood teams can take more
players and put them on

2356
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,000
scholarship than they could
previously.

2357
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:17,800
I'm not sure that that helps a
ton for the Virginia Techs of

2358
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,280
the world, the NC States of the
World, kind of that tier.

2359
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:24,840
I do think that it's good for
baseball who is operating with

2360
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,480
11.7 scholarships and that's now
up to 34.

2361
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,760
Softball had 12, they're now up
to 25.

2362
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,040
So that's great.
That specifically, I'm not sure

2363
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,360
how that helps.
I do think that it kind of

2364
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:39,040
resets the deck with, I feel bad
for a lot of the kids that were

2365
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:42,720
in high school these last couple
of cycles because schools had to

2366
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:46,720
retroactively handle keeping
kids that had these COVID years,

2367
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:50,000
these red shirt years on their
books and not being able to

2368
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,200
extend scholarships to some of
these really talented high

2369
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:55,440
school players.
So I think it's a day late and a

2370
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,680
dollar short on that change.
This probably would have made

2371
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:00,400
more sense to do three or four
years ago.

2372
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:03,840
Now, switching over to the same
pot.

2373
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,440
Look, I think it's really
interesting and I have no inside

2374
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,360
information on how Tech is going
to do this.

2375
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:15,160
I can speak to what maybe some
schools are considering doing or

2376
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:18,040
some schools are doing based
upon what the state laws are.

2377
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:22,840
Basically, with this money being
the same pot, you are going to

2378
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,960
be able to offer benefits to
people like priority points.

2379
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,520
Let's say if Virginia Tech
wanted to say, hey, if you

2380
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,560
donate to the NIL fund of
Virginia Tech, we'll give you

2381
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,520
priority points because for
right now, you're not really

2382
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,440
able to offer university
benefits.

2383
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:42,160
Back to giving to NIL.
So you know, the crazy situation

2384
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:47,800
about NIL is in its name, Name,
image, and likeness is just

2385
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:49,480
paying players.
It's not name, image and

2386
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:51,920
likeness.
If I ask all of you to name

2387
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:58,360
every single person that you see
on a commercial or has a brand

2388
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:03,480
deal in the MLB or the NFL or
the NBA, it's not every single

2389
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,720
player on the team.
But we're led to believe that

2390
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:12,720
every single Power 5 program in
America has four to $12 million

2391
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:16,440
worth of name, image and
likeness players on their

2392
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:19,880
roster.
They don't, newsflash, but they

2393
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,600
do have players that are worth
that amount to the school based

2394
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:27,160
upon their skill level.
So I think that this gets us

2395
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:31,440
closer to tapping into some of
that TV money, tapping into some

2396
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:35,000
of those MMR deals with the
Learfields and the Playflies of

2397
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:35,920
the world.
And I don't want to.

2398
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:39,040
I don't want to bog this down in
a conversation that is way

2399
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,280
bigger.
And I won't be able to give an

2400
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,960
awesome answer in 5 minutes.
But I highly encourage you all

2401
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,200
to check out the episode that we
did with Olivia Nuss.

2402
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:48,360
I did just retweet that on our
feed.

2403
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:51,360
She's the head of legal affairs
at Student Athlete NIL.

2404
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:54,440
She used to work for NILSU in
Baton Rouge.

2405
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,600
She's fantastic, very, very
educated on the matter.

2406
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:02,000
But I do think that opening this
up to where universities can

2407
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,880
participate and offer their
donors some benefits back for

2408
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,000
helping put the team on the
field, that's going to help

2409
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:11,240
level the playing field a little
bit.

2410
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:15,560
We still need to figure out how
we stop the bidding war every

2411
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:18,520
single year that is completely
out of control.

2412
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:21,280
And you're almost in a situation
where, well, I hope our

2413
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,760
quarterback, every school, I
hope our quarterback plays

2414
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:26,080
really well, but not too well
because then he won't be on, he

2415
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,360
won't be on our team the year
after.

2416
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:30,440
So it's a little bit of an
interesting conundrum, but

2417
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:34,800
crazy, crazy world.
Yeah, I mean, we, we are in a

2418
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:38,000
situation now where it's like
you want you want players to do

2419
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:41,000
well.
But I think as where Virginia

2420
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:45,440
Tech has kind of put itself in
the totem pole, they're not a

2421
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:49,800
blue blood where like as soon as
you get that good season, you've

2422
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:51,920
got a bidding war.
They've got more money, they've

2423
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,080
got more coffers.
They can go in and pay

2424
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:58,200
proportionally more players to
to join their roster, right?

2425
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:02,000
So we're kind of at that point
where we do pretty well.

2426
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:07,600
We, we do well enough, but we
can't, we can't pay 22 guys what

2427
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:13,720
they could get at places like
Alabama or even places like a, a

2428
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:16,040
Boston College in some cases or
Maryland.

2429
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:18,560
Like sometimes we're going to
have to make that business

2430
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:21,520
decision of, you know, do do we
match that offer?

2431
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:24,560
Do we try to do something else?
And I know Price talked about,

2432
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,640
you know, when when guys come to
him and say, Hey, I, I was

2433
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,200
offered this.
The first thing he says is, Hey,

2434
02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:33,080
do you like playing here?
Do you like being here?

2435
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:35,200
Do you like being in blacks or
do you like being a Hokie?

2436
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:38,240
And I think that has that
culture piece has really went a

2437
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:42,040
long way in helping us kind of
maintain the roster that we have

2438
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:46,040
coming into this season and and
helped us have that that roster

2439
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:49,880
that is, you know, from a
returning production standpoint

2440
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:53,200
right at the top of the country.
And I have to say too, I'm not

2441
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:57,080
in any way against players are
receiving compensation.

2442
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,920
They've been missing out for
years on the compensation that

2443
02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:02,920
they deserve.
I have a problem with the way

2444
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:05,760
that it is it was handled by the
NCAA, which is they threw their

2445
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,240
hands up in the air on NIL and
the transfer portal at the exact

2446
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,480
same time.
And it created chaos.

2447
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:17,240
And I do want to extend a a tip
of my cap to triumph in that

2448
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:22,400
team Collectives are trying to
solve for an impossible problem

2449
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,920
at every one of these schools.
Again, it is trying to find a

2450
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:32,320
way to generate advertising
dollars and fundraising for

2451
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:36,600
numbers that are exorbitantly
higher than what a normal

2452
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,400
company would pay to work with
some of these athletes.

2453
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:41,200
That's just the reality of the
situation.

2454
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:42,600
Not all of them, but some of
them.

2455
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:48,120
So I do have to tip my cap and
say fantastic job by Triumph and

2456
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,360
the coaching staff to keep this
team together Because you know,

2457
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,800
you you zoomed back ten years
ago and you looked at this

2458
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,520
roster midway through the
season, you say, hey, we're

2459
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:56,720
going to be pretty good next
year.

2460
02:09:57,080 --> 02:10:00,040
Midway through last season,
we're like, if we could keep

2461
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:02,400
like half of this team, we'll be
pretty good next year.

2462
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:04,840
And they were able to do that.
And that's why we're being

2463
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,160
talked about so much this
offseason.

2464
02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:09,400
Appreciate it Billy all.
Right, Kelly, What you got, man?

2465
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:15,400
Just hit on that on on, on a
little bit of of that.

2466
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,120
What Billy's talking about the I
don't want to get into it too

2467
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:24,480
deep, but I with, with what
they're doing with NIL, which is

2468
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,640
sometimes kind of crazy and
transfer portal, which is crazy

2469
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,280
as well.
It pushes some kids to JUCO and

2470
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,240
things like that.
But I think it's kind of a

2471
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,840
adverse effect for us.
I think it helps us a little bit

2472
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:40,480
more than it hurts us because
from where I sit down here in

2473
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:42,520
SEC country, they've been doing
that.

2474
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:44,720
They've just been doing it
behind closed doors.

2475
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:47,880
That's why they had so many
stockpiles of kids sitting and

2476
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:52,680
waiting two and three years
because these somebody who owns

2477
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:55,120
a horse for them would be like,
oh, I'll pay that kids.

2478
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,960
You know, I'll pay for him and
his family and his mom to move

2479
02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:03,320
to Alabaster AL to get a job and
all of this stuff for three

2480
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:05,880
years until he can get on the
field, as long as he don't

2481
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,480
leave.
So it's been happening at

2482
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:14,840
school, so why not make it to be
fair as equal as you can to be

2483
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:16,880
fair?
Sally, it hasn't just been

2484
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:20,040
happening at SEC schools.
I mean, going, going, I wasn't

2485
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:22,880
this caliber of recruit, but I
went to high school with these

2486
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:26,040
calibers of recruits and it
wasn't just like these three

2487
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,280
schools who came in and said,
hey, we can, we can take care of

2488
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:31,200
some things.
A ton of schools were doing

2489
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:32,200
this.
It's just not.

2490
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:36,880
Behind of course, of course and.
I, I do agree with you that this

2491
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:39,200
puts that this puts it in a
really good position.

2492
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:44,160
And you know, my seat from
working with, with Liz and

2493
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:46,480
Georgia, which was incredible
over the last two years.

2494
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:51,000
Like that was one of the truest
examples of NIL because the

2495
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,720
businesses that were working
with them and how seriously they

2496
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:56,680
took their podcast and working
with these businesses, they saw

2497
02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:00,520
actual ROI in that investment.
They didn't just say, hey, Liz

2498
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:01,760
and George are good at
basketball.

2499
02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:04,160
So we're just going to, you
know, work with them to make

2500
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:07,520
something happen.
You know, there was a real

2501
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:11,920
embracing from the fan base's
perspective and the business's

2502
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,880
perspective.
And even though Georgia couldn't

2503
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:17,480
participate in NIL in the same
capacity that that Liz did, they

2504
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:20,080
had a huge impact on the
Blacksburg community on and off

2505
02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:22,640
the court through NIL.
And opportunities like that are

2506
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:25,280
what make it so special.
So I have to tip my cap to the

2507
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:29,000
both of them as well.
Definitely, definitely.

2508
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:30,800
Well, yeah, man, we appreciate
your.

2509
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:33,880
First of all, I'm going to go on
this too.

2510
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:37,280
Then we'll we'll get back to the
the normal scheduled broadcast.

2511
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:41,440
I'm glad you said that you got a
job because I've got a lot of

2512
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:47,560
messages about does Billy work?
Is his family the mafia?

2513
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:50,320
How is he?
Able to travel all over these

2514
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:55,120
places.
So the man said that he works.

2515
02:12:55,520 --> 02:13:01,360
Y'all heard it here first.
He may be rich, but his family

2516
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,640
is not.
Tally, tally, my I'm from New

2517
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:06,880
Jersey, but my parents are not
in the waste management

2518
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:12,680
business.
OK, I'm not a I'm not a

2519
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,680
Cartarello, I'm not a
Philippelli.

2520
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:19,360
But no, I mean, I will say when
I, when I was laid off from the

2521
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:22,680
technology job a couple years
ago, Sons of Saturday was, and

2522
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:25,080
you guys know this, this is, I'm
not going to say it's a full

2523
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,800
time job, but you know, you're
working with advertising, you're

2524
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:28,760
getting on, you're recording
them.

2525
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:31,520
And here we are at it's 750
here, but it's 1050 over there.

2526
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:33,280
We're burning some midnight oil.
It's work.

2527
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:34,800
We enjoy talking about Virginia
Tech.

2528
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:37,640
I will say there are times that
it's more fun to talk about

2529
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:41,920
Virginia Tech going through 66
football seasons and three and

2530
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:44,280
10 football seasons.
You're you're getting ready to

2531
02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:46,680
press record and you know, Pat
and I might look at each other

2532
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:51,320
and be like, all right, we got
to do 45 minutes on this.

2533
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:55,520
But you know, it is, it is a ton
of fun to be part of the

2534
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:57,240
conversation.
But yes, do you have a job?

2535
02:13:57,720 --> 02:13:58,880
Do you have health insurance
there?

2536
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:02,160
To my knowledge, there is no,
there is no Billy Ray fund.

2537
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:03,360
It'd be nice if there was
though.

2538
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:07,720
Right, right.
Well, I'll ask this question.

2539
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:11,800
Just talking about, you know,
Dwight getting you involved a

2540
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,520
little bit as well as you Billy
talking about the both of you

2541
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:17,920
guys having, you know, being a
part of teams from the past.

2542
02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:19,520
They've had some pre season
hype.

2543
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:23,400
You know, Dwight, the 98 team
and then you know Billy, the 17

2544
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:26,520
team that was loaded with NFL
talent all across it.

2545
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:30,960
And you guys, you know, seen the
the pre season hype and, and the

2546
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:34,840
talent that was on the team.
Now I'm seeing what we have now

2547
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,920
with the hype and the talent on
the team.

2548
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:41,840
How do you, you know, how did
y'all handle those expectations

2549
02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:44,400
and kind of how do you think
Coach Pryor and his staff are

2550
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:47,480
handling those expectations of
getting that hype but also still

2551
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:50,400
going out this year and
performing?

2552
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:55,240
Well, I mean, I, you know, I've
been asked this question before.

2553
02:14:55,240 --> 02:14:57,800
I think it, you know, I was
watching the other two segments

2554
02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:01,560
you guys did with everybody on
Danny and those guys about all

2555
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:03,920
the players and which room.
But I've always said, and I say

2556
02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:06,120
it every year, if you look at
the great Virginia Tech teams

2557
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:10,280
over the last 2527 years, the
teams that win the conference

2558
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:12,400
will get to the conference
championship game and win 9 to

2559
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,720
10 games are teams that have
leaders.

2560
02:15:16,040 --> 02:15:18,640
You know when you have
leadership, regardless of how

2561
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:20,160
many stars you return, that
always helps.

2562
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:23,440
But if they are not, if they're
unselfish and they locked in and

2563
02:15:23,440 --> 02:15:26,880
then an extension of Pride and
Pearson and JC and Marvin, those

2564
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:28,680
guys, then your locker room's
going to be fine.

2565
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:31,280
Like your locker room has to be
right.

2566
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:35,280
I've seen I always talk about
the 2003 Hokies right before

2567
02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:39,200
they went into the ACC in 2004.
I, I stand on this as a case.

2568
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:43,000
I stand on business on this one.
That 2003 Hokies team was

2569
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:45,000
loaded.
You had Keith Willis at tight

2570
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:48,200
end, you had Kevin Jones, you
had Brian Randall, You had Jay

2571
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:50,400
Grove at center, You had Ernest
Wilford.

2572
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:54,760
You had a loaded squad.
They won games at Texas A&M.

2573
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:57,240
They they were picked to battle
Miami.

2574
02:15:57,240 --> 02:16:00,920
They even beat Miami that year,
broke their 31 game-winning

2575
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:03,440
streak.
This is when Miami was loaded,

2576
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:05,760
right?
But they underachieved.

2577
02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:08,360
They lost to Boston College that
year at home.

2578
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:12,480
They lost to UVA.
It was the UV as first time

2579
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:16,560
since beating us since 1998.
That team underachieved because

2580
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,120
you know, they had Vegas
Robinson and Vince Hall at

2581
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:21,480
linebacker, but they weren't a
unit.

2582
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:25,440
So in a lot of ways, people ask
me how great will tech do?

2583
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:28,000
I always say I feel great
because if the guys are the not

2584
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,120
just starters, because you can
be a backer, but be a leader.

2585
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:33,559
If the guys understand what
pride his staff want, what JC

2586
02:16:33,559 --> 02:16:36,719
and those guys want, then your
team will be unified.

2587
02:16:36,719 --> 02:16:40,320
If if it's look at me and you
know, we're not locked in, but

2588
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:43,320
you know, I'm going to get my
paper or I got to get my numbers

2589
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:46,480
or I'm trying to improve my
draft status, the team is going

2590
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:49,799
to underachieve and that and not
to pick on Miami or other teams,

2591
02:16:49,799 --> 02:16:51,360
but that's what you've seen
sometimes.

2592
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:53,400
And you say, wow, that team is
loaded.

2593
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:55,520
How did they not win 8 or more
games?

2594
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:57,520
Well, they had a bunch of
selfless guys.

2595
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,719
One thing about being around the
locker room, being around Tech

2596
02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:02,639
at the spring game and just
knowing some of those guys in

2597
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:06,480
the locker room, they're locked
in, they seem very unselfish.

2598
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:10,040
So I think with Kyron as his
leader and the rest of those

2599
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:12,959
guys, you know, keeping those
guys, a big factor a lot of guys

2600
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:16,799
returning was Kyron, Kyron.
So they wanted to come back and

2601
02:17:16,799 --> 02:17:18,719
run it back.
Tooting could have left, a lot

2602
02:17:18,719 --> 02:17:21,400
of guys could have left.
So you kind of see what you saw

2603
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:25,280
at Clemson that one year for
about 5-6 years where Dabo was

2604
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:29,240
able to get a lot of future NFL
players to return and win 11 or

2605
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:31,840
12 or more games.
I'm not saying we're going to do

2606
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:34,799
that, but I do feel good because
I feel like the leadership is

2607
02:17:34,799 --> 02:17:37,559
there.
This is why I said on your your

2608
02:17:37,559 --> 02:17:41,520
podcast about a year ago that
the biggest issue I saw with

2609
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:43,879
Virginia Tech the last few
years, the end of the Fuente era

2610
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:47,040
as well as the first years with
pride is that they had no idea

2611
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:49,680
how to win.
When you have guys that know how

2612
02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:51,280
to lead, you know how to go on
the road.

2613
02:17:51,719 --> 02:17:54,360
You know, when I was at Tech and
when I played or even the guys

2614
02:17:54,360 --> 02:17:57,120
that came after me that one,
those guys know how to win on

2615
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:58,480
the road.
And if they didn't win the game,

2616
02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:01,080
like I remember when Billy was
at Tech, they went toe to toe

2617
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:04,719
with Alabama for 3/4 and that
was a future national

2618
02:18:04,719 --> 02:18:08,080
championship team because they
had a great leadership.

2619
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:09,480
They had a day.
It wasn't like they were going

2620
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:13,000
to win 11 games that year.
But I just feel like it always

2621
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:17,080
starts in the locker room and I
feel like if our guys that are

2622
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:19,000
on the field and doing what
needs to be doing.

2623
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,080
Like I don't know if it was Suns
or Saturday that shared it or

2624
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:25,680
Tech Triumph, but it was a video
I shared in my Instagram story

2625
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:27,920
of Kyron, Kyron and the
receivers.

2626
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:31,480
It was 945 at night and they
were in the indoor practice

2627
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:34,559
facility getting throws in and
they were just drenched in sweat

2628
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:37,400
and they were locked in.
To me, that's a small things

2629
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,480
that you saw back when I played
or even after I played with

2630
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:43,680
Tyrod and those guys.
That's the leadership that won't

2631
02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:45,160
be.
It's not measurable until you

2632
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:50,840
see them play on the field.
On that, on that note, I wanted

2633
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:52,879
to say a couple of things.
Number one, it's not always

2634
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:57,120
about having leadership on a
team that is potentially

2635
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,280
competing for a conference
championship or potentially

2636
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:00,760
competing for a spot in the
playoff.

2637
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:04,400
It is just leadership period.
Like I remember that six and six

2638
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:06,879
team that had to get bowl
eligible and one of Coach

2639
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:09,600
Beamer's last seasons.
And I'll never forget when we

2640
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:11,360
were staring in the face.
I can't remember how many games

2641
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:15,320
we had to we had to win to get
bowl eligible, but they had a

2642
02:19:15,320 --> 02:19:19,799
players only meeting and Kyshawn
Jarrett got up, Dietrich Bonner

2643
02:19:19,799 --> 02:19:21,559
got up.
A bunch of those dudes got up

2644
02:19:21,559 --> 02:19:23,520
there and just talked about how
important it was, how much it

2645
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:26,559
meant to them to send out Coach
Beamer the right way.

2646
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:29,639
And having people that are
willing to step up and step into

2647
02:19:29,639 --> 02:19:33,080
that role where coaches can
inspire you only so much and

2648
02:19:33,080 --> 02:19:35,480
coaches can only say so much.
But when you have somebody in

2649
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:37,799
that locker room that is going
through exactly what you're

2650
02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:40,080
going through and it's talking
about how it how much it means

2651
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:43,000
to them, especially to some of
those young guys, that's pivotal

2652
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:44,240
and that makes a huge
difference.

2653
02:19:44,719 --> 02:19:48,280
I also think the difference
between what really separated

2654
02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:53,440
that 2016 team was two things #1
when that team started to get

2655
02:19:53,440 --> 02:19:56,320
some buy in after the first two
games of the year, when people

2656
02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:59,520
realized, OK, Gerardo is a dude,
this wide receiver room is

2657
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:02,120
awesome.
We got punched in the face by

2658
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:05,160
Tennessee and it brought
everybody right back down to

2659
02:20:05,160 --> 02:20:07,680
earth and everybody had to go
back to fundamentals and

2660
02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:11,040
understand, OK, if we're going
to be who we can be.

2661
02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:13,520
We're going to have to tighten
some things up and that team did

2662
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:16,360
that and then that team went to
the ACC Championship and had a

2663
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:19,400
the best year we've had since
20/12/2011.

2664
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:25,160
On the flip side, that team had
so many players who had played

2665
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:28,520
for so many years together.
John McLaughlin was one of those

2666
02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:31,040
players who as a freshman was
going out there against Alabama.

2667
02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:34,360
You look at a Wyatt Teller who
had been through multiple

2668
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:36,320
offensive line coaches, had been
through the ringer.

2669
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:41,440
Sam Rogers walk on, all these
guys who had so much respect and

2670
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:44,160
had been through it and could
take those younger players that

2671
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:46,960
had to contribute or those
players that came in and get

2672
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:50,440
everybody reading from the same
set of notes made such a big

2673
02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:52,960
difference.
And we have that continuity now.

2674
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:55,720
And Coach Fry, I think one of
the things that he said that is

2675
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:59,840
so pivotal was it was a
difficult decision to pick who

2676
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:02,600
went to ACC media day.
Like that was an actual

2677
02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:06,600
conversation of I wonder who's
going to go and somebody's going

2678
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:08,840
to get left out.
Because can't remember the last

2679
02:21:08,840 --> 02:21:13,960
time we had a team where you can
identify somebody in every room

2680
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,720
who has the leadership qualities
that you're looking for on a

2681
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,080
team.
Every single room on this team

2682
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:23,400
has a leader that she would feel
comfortable going into Saturday,

2683
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:26,600
Thursday or Friday with.
And we haven't had that in a few

2684
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:30,000
years across every single room.
And I think that is a huge

2685
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:32,760
difference between this year
going into going into it.

2686
02:21:32,760 --> 02:21:36,880
Just don't have to have that
Tennessee conversation.

2687
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:39,160
Don't have to have that early
season.

2688
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:41,760
Everybody loves you and then you
underperform.

2689
02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:43,440
Now, I'm not saying that
Tennessee team wasn't good.

2690
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:45,640
That was a really good Tennessee
team who didn't know how to use

2691
02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:48,240
Alvin Kamara, but we didn't have
to our potential in that game.

2692
02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:51,520
Yeah.
Those turnovers definitely

2693
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:53,000
didn't help either though.
No, I.

2694
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:53,920
Didn't.
No, I didn't.

2695
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:57,640
They did ball security for three
hours on on that Monday or

2696
02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:00,520
Tuesday after that.
Well, Billy, but Billy, just to

2697
02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:03,840
your point, that team I watched,
I remember that was on my

2698
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:05,520
birthday, September 14th.
So I watched it.

2699
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:08,320
I was up in DC at a bar with a
bunch of people.

2700
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,280
Man, I was looking at that game
and everyone was mad at me

2701
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:14,200
because I went on Twitter and I
said This is why I didn't go

2702
02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:16,680
because it was at that
racetrack, right?

2703
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:21,640
And I said until until Virginia
Tech can handle hype and

2704
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:24,160
expectations, I'm not taking the
bait.

2705
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:26,160
And and then people like, oh,
how you going?

2706
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:27,440
I'm not turning my back on those
guys.

2707
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:28,920
Cam Phillips and those guys are
my brothers.

2708
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:36,200
I'm talking about the fact that
the 2007, was it 2007, 2008,

2709
02:22:36,480 --> 02:22:40,200
2007 game against Miami when we
had Percy Harvard and 68

2710
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:43,600
recruits on the sideline, maybe
200 and Miami beat as they beat

2711
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:45,560
the brakes off us.
That's the hit with Daryl Tapp

2712
02:22:45,800 --> 02:22:48,880
slam the quarterback or the
Tennessee game, which I feel

2713
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:51,280
like if we don't turn the ball
over, we win that game.

2714
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:54,920
So what you're talking about,
Billy, is being able to handle

2715
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:57,840
hyping expectations.
Coaches pretty much say the same

2716
02:22:57,840 --> 02:22:59,560
things.
Everybody puts their spin on it.

2717
02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:03,280
You know, some guys show videos,
some guys will, you know, have

2718
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:06,440
another guest speaker come in.
Everybody right now across the

2719
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:08,880
nation feels like they can have
a chance to win games and win

2720
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:11,280
their conference.
The difference is not just the

2721
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:14,120
talent, but the players that
anoint themselves as leaders

2722
02:23:14,120 --> 02:23:16,880
that make sure that nobody's
skipping a rap in the weight

2723
02:23:16,880 --> 02:23:18,320
room.
Billy, you know this and you

2724
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:20,840
know, conditioning, you know,
making sure the third stringers

2725
02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:23,680
are giving us a good look on
Scout, all that stuff.

2726
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:26,160
I saw it, I saw Antonio Freeman
do that.

2727
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:29,080
I saw guys challenge back up.
So there's a culture.

2728
02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:31,800
And you mentioned continuity.
I think that's the biggest thing

2729
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:35,200
I feel good about this season.
It's like that hopefulness with

2730
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:39,200
the continuity.
On that point too, and again,

2731
02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:41,440
I'm I'm, I'm just, I'm just
speaking from this year

2732
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:43,560
specifically.
One of the things that was

2733
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:47,040
pointed out after that Tennessee
game was going into the game,

2734
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:50,640
the entire staff was saying,
guys, we have a great game plan.

2735
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:54,320
We match up fantastic with them.
And it shouldn't be a surprise

2736
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:56,320
when we come out and we punch
Tennessee in the mouth.

2737
02:23:56,720 --> 02:24:00,120
And if you look at the broadcast
of that game and if you look at

2738
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:01,920
the body language, if I could
recall the body language

2739
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:05,520
correctly on the sideline, there
were some people who were like

2740
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:08,200
shocked we were beating
Tennessee because we're just

2741
02:24:08,200 --> 02:24:11,000
coming off a six and six year.
We were six and six the year

2742
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:13,400
before.
And people were like, Oh my God,

2743
02:24:13,400 --> 02:24:16,560
we're playing in front of
160,000 people and we're taking

2744
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:19,240
it to Tennessee, this SEC team
with all of this talent.

2745
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:20,920
And that's where it caught up to
us.

2746
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:24,120
And that was the message all
week after that game was it was

2747
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:28,720
like, until you guys believe how
good you actually are, you will

2748
02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:31,600
continue to have these let downs
in situations like this.

2749
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:35,880
And that's why I always push
back on the notion from and it's

2750
02:24:35,880 --> 02:24:38,000
not just Virginia Tech fan base,
it's every fan base.

2751
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:40,720
I don't like that we're ranked
or I don't like that people are

2752
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:43,640
talking about us.
If you don't want the noise of

2753
02:24:43,640 --> 02:24:48,560
expectations and you don't want
the excitement of being in the

2754
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:52,720
game of being talked about, you
should go cheer for Duke.

2755
02:24:52,840 --> 02:24:57,080
You should go cheer for State.
Seriously.

2756
02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:00,600
Like that whole mindset, That
whole mindset of I don't want

2757
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:03,040
expectations, I want to just
surprise people.

2758
02:25:03,440 --> 02:25:05,480
No, I want the target on our
back.

2759
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:08,400
That is what makes it special.
That is what makes it getting up

2760
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:11,560
and watching every single
Saturday and then also going

2761
02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:16,000
into work on Monday and seeing
your buddy who sits across from

2762
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:18,440
you who into Arkansas or your
buddy who sits across from you

2763
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:19,680
who doesn't even watch college
football.

2764
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:21,560
And they said, man, I was tuned
into Virginia Tech.

2765
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:23,640
Y'all got a good football team
this year.

2766
02:25:23,640 --> 02:25:26,000
And everybody's having those
conversations right now more

2767
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:27,400
than they have in the last 10
years.

2768
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:30,000
And that's the type of
expectation that Virginia Tech

2769
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,680
should have and you should want
as a fan for the team that

2770
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:36,200
you're rooting.
For 100%, absolutely.

2771
02:25:38,120 --> 02:25:40,520
What was my man's name to play
for West Virginia?

2772
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:44,200
The quarterback wound, I think
it was 2017 year going into

2773
02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:45,960
2017.
What's?

2774
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:48,040
My last name to play for it will
grill.

2775
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:50,960
So yeah.
So kind of thinking about that

2776
02:25:50,960 --> 02:25:52,800
you know kind of going back to
something like that.

2777
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:56,280
What Billy's saying you know
going from that 16 year to that

2778
02:25:56,280 --> 02:25:58,360
17 year.
That was a big game.

2779
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:01,040
You know, playing at FedEx
Field, us going to play West

2780
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:07,200
Virginia old rivalry like Oz was
on that game, like everybody got

2781
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:12,160
so as as much as we, you know,
as much as we jump on fool and

2782
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:16,240
and and that for and that regime
them first games, man, he would

2783
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:20,640
get deep in that bag man, and
them expectations that was on

2784
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:24,440
the team was met a lot of to
like going into that game.

2785
02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:28,200
It was a lot of hype around that
game and and they came in and

2786
02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:31,680
they kind of did the damn thing.
Honestly, you know what I'm

2787
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:33,520
saying watching that.
I remember watching that on TV

2788
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:36,240
like damn, and people like you
say it going into work and it

2789
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:38,800
was like, man, I was watching
y'all last night at shoot

2790
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:41,000
Virginia Tech.
They look good like that looked

2791
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:44,200
like what what our Virginia Tech
team looks like.

2792
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:46,760
Robbie, what you thinking about
all this hype and stuff we

2793
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:51,480
talking about we.
From a coaching perspective, we

2794
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:53,560
talk about the hype and the
things all the time.

2795
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,440
Now I'm dealing, I'm dealing
with with much different athlete

2796
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:00,600
and, and high school athletes
and things like that and what

2797
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:03,800
we're talking about here.
But I mean, we had I I've

2798
02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:07,920
coached some teams that, you
know, year in, year out that

2799
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:11,760
targets on their back.
That hype is, is built and it's

2800
02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:13,280
like, it's like walking a
tightrope.

2801
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:18,560
And we got you got to, we always
talked about height will fit you

2802
02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:21,600
up to be humbled.
If you fall too far into that

2803
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,720
height and listen to the people
telling you about how good you

2804
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:27,560
are as a player.
If you don't have the leader

2805
02:27:27,560 --> 02:27:31,200
that they can humble everybody
and be able to tell them, Hey,

2806
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:34,920
we, we got that height because
of what we've done.

2807
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:38,200
And we've got to continue to do
that to keep that height.

2808
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:40,040
You're going to get humbled real
quick.

2809
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,440
I'm going to tell you what, I've
been humbled.

2810
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:45,680
I've been humbled a few times as
a coach.

2811
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:49,080
I've seen teams get humbled
because they believed in that

2812
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:52,320
height.
But like you, like it was said

2813
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:56,160
before, you have to buy into
that height too, because you

2814
02:27:56,160 --> 02:28:02,600
have to have that kind of raw
aggression, that raw emotion of

2815
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:04,880
yeah, we're.
Going to We're going to live.

2816
02:28:04,880 --> 02:28:07,760
To that height and you've got to
have the people to steer it the

2817
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:11,160
right way, just like you got to
have that pole to to walk that

2818
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:13,600
tightrope.
You got to keep that balance and

2819
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:17,560
it's a thin line, but you have
to find it and use both your

2820
02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:20,120
advantage.
A good comparison that I have

2821
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:23,960
not to not to leverage it all
the way back to high school, but

2822
02:28:23,960 --> 02:28:27,720
my senior year, I mean, coming
in, Paramus Catholic was ranked

2823
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:30,600
#8 in the country.
We had Jabril Peppers was

2824
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:32,680
returning kicks.
He's playing running back.

2825
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:35,600
He was quarterback.
Sometimes we had, you know, I

2826
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:38,280
think we sent eight or ten kids
to Division One schools.

2827
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:41,240
And that whole year running
through the season, everybody's

2828
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,240
telling you how good we are.
And then we go and we play Don

2829
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:46,440
Bosco, Terrell Smith School in
the middle of the season, ESP NS

2830
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:48,600
there we get alternate uniforms
from Adidas.

2831
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:50,960
It was pretty crazy.
And they came out and they

2832
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:54,040
kicked our ass up and down the
field all game.

2833
02:28:54,520 --> 02:28:58,960
And if we didn't have that reset
moment where you have those

2834
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:02,440
conversations with your team and
then you're trying to say, hey,

2835
02:29:02,440 --> 02:29:05,040
look, we're going to piss away
this incredible opportunity

2836
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:08,080
because you think that it's just
owed to you to to be good and

2837
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:11,000
beat all of these teams and just
and just run roughshod

2838
02:29:11,000 --> 02:29:12,840
throughout the rest of the the
rest of the season.

2839
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:14,760
And then that set us up for an
opportunity.

2840
02:29:14,760 --> 02:29:19,200
We've played Brandon Wimbush and
Brandon Wimbush and and Minka

2841
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:21,400
Fitzpatrick in the state
championship and if we didn't

2842
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:24,360
have that moment in the season
because we weren't mature enough

2843
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:28,040
to handle it in the pre season,
probably don't win that game the

2844
02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:30,080
last year, the last game of the
season.

2845
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:33,360
So just hoping that we can avoid
that.

2846
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:35,800
And Coach Pry has preached this
all season.

2847
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:38,440
How important it is to not get
invested in the hype, how

2848
02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:40,640
important it is not to get
invested into how good people

2849
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:43,400
are telling you you are.
You need to believe that you're

2850
02:29:43,400 --> 02:29:45,600
that good and you need to put in
the work to live up to the

2851
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:48,640
opportunity that you have based
upon the talent and the

2852
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:50,560
seniority and the continuity
that you have on your team.

2853
02:29:50,920 --> 02:29:54,080
Yeah, Billy, he, he definitely
gave y'all a hell of a sound

2854
02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:57,680
bite talking about expectations.
And.

2855
02:29:58,240 --> 02:30:02,000
And all that, so that, that was,
that was a great sound bite.

2856
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:03,720
And it's, it's definitely been
something that sounds like

2857
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:05,560
that's been been preached top
down.

2858
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:08,040
But let's talk about that
coaching continuity and, and,

2859
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:10,800
and how, how they impact that
roster.

2860
02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:14,520
You know, when we look at this
coaching staff, you know, this

2861
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:17,840
time last year they'd only been
together about five months total

2862
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:22,040
as far as a, a, a whole staff
with the the swapped outs in

2863
02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:25,840
last spring and all that.
Yeah, now it seems like they're,

2864
02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:27,400
they're running like a well
oiled machine.

2865
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:29,560
Robbie, I'll let you start with
this one.

2866
02:30:29,560 --> 02:30:33,080
What effect does this type of
staff continuity have on a team

2867
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:37,160
and particularly a veteran and
and leader heavy team like this

2868
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:40,600
one?
It's it's going to be

2869
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:44,000
immeasurable.
I mean, to, to be able to see

2870
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:49,560
the, the schemes that are put in
the consistent coaching points

2871
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:52,960
day in day out over a longer
period of time.

2872
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:57,760
I mean, I, I talked to coach
Crook last year at, at the

2873
02:30:57,760 --> 02:31:01,720
coaches clinic that we went to.
He had been in Blacksburg for

2874
02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:05,960
like 9 days at that point.
He was sleeping on a couch in an

2875
02:31:05,960 --> 02:31:10,400
apartment that him and the, the
new running backs coach had come

2876
02:31:10,400 --> 02:31:13,480
in and kind of were written week
to week until they could get

2877
02:31:13,480 --> 02:31:16,120
everything settled.
That's how quick everything

2878
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:21,240
turned around and got in there
and to see the improvement in so

2879
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:25,640
many areas, especially with the
online just in in the quick

2880
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:27,800
period of time through the
spring into the fall.

2881
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:31,800
Just the fact that that's
continuing for a whole year now,

2882
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:37,200
getting that the same verbiage,
the same teaching that can that

2883
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:40,560
continuity, that consistency all
the way through is going to

2884
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:42,640
make, I mean things
immeasurable.

2885
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:48,560
And with the the the carryover
of every coach being back, every

2886
02:31:48,560 --> 02:31:50,920
coach being back in the same
place as they were.

2887
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:55,160
I mean, I, I think that's,
that's going to pay huge

2888
02:31:55,160 --> 02:31:57,840
dividends in the end.
And, and putting things together

2889
02:31:58,320 --> 02:32:00,880
and the players continuing to
hear the same thing.

2890
02:32:01,400 --> 02:32:06,080
They're not getting a different
coach every season, things like

2891
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:08,760
that, that I mean that that'll
drive a thing in the ground.

2892
02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:11,320
And I think that I think that's
going to be big for them.

2893
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:14,120
Just kidding.
Continuing to hear the same

2894
02:32:14,480 --> 02:32:16,880
teaching and buy into those
things, Dwight.

2895
02:32:17,880 --> 02:32:23,280
What do you got on this one?
Sorry, I, I, you know, I, I

2896
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:25,760
agree.
I think, you know, I've been

2897
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:28,280
recruited 20 plus years, but I
work with kids.

2898
02:32:28,280 --> 02:32:30,480
You know, I have a son that's,
you know, that's in that

2899
02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:32,200
situation.
I work with a lot of kids, a lot

2900
02:32:32,200 --> 02:32:35,200
of kids who are going to UVA and
Virginia Tech, you know, I

2901
02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:37,800
mentor them.
And I do think continuity

2902
02:32:37,800 --> 02:32:40,640
amongst your coaching staff and
that brotherhood, you feel it

2903
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:43,040
like Virginia Tech, it's a
unique school because of its

2904
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,200
location and where it's at and
the fact that they have the, you

2905
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:49,520
know, hashtag or whatever this
is home, you know, mantra that

2906
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:52,600
they push.
I think when you see coaches

2907
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:56,240
that really enjoy being Hokies,
I think I tried to warn people.

2908
02:32:56,240 --> 02:32:59,280
When Prague, you know, came
back, it was kind of like when

2909
02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:02,000
Joe Gibbs came back to the
Washington Redskins, now

2910
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:05,120
commanders, everybody thought he
was going to hire everybody from

2911
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,040
the good old days.
And I was like, you know, he

2912
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:08,480
can't do that.
That would be really wack.

2913
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:11,040
You know, you can't get
everybody from that day.

2914
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:13,720
It's a different time.
So, you know, as much as I would

2915
02:33:13,720 --> 02:33:16,240
love to see all my, my, you
know, I call him The Avengers of

2916
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:19,640
those superhero coaches, the
truth of the matter is he got

2917
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:23,080
some guys, he retained the right
guys and he got some guys that

2918
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:27,440
also knew him from other places.
So, you know, having Marv, a guy

2919
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:30,480
he can trust and he's mentoring
a guy that really took a big

2920
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:33,800
step forward last year, you
know, having JC, who bleeds

2921
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:36,520
Virginia Tech, you know, punched
his hand in a locker or wall

2922
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:38,360
against Maryland the ball game
and broke it.

2923
02:33:38,880 --> 02:33:41,280
You saw him getting emotional
and that big win to become bowl

2924
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:45,000
elligible at UVA.
Pearson Prelo, who Greg wins

2925
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:47,080
when he was a defensive
coordinator with Washington and

2926
02:33:47,480 --> 02:33:49,520
the New Orleans Saints, said
Pearson was the smartest

2927
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:52,640
football coach he ever coached.
And I played with Pearson for

2928
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:55,200
four years and he is like a
little Torian Grey.

2929
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:58,120
Like he's just a great mind and
a great recruiter.

2930
02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:00,400
We're seeing that.
I think having guys that you

2931
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:05,000
know, you know, coach DJ AKH
cheater and then you know, just

2932
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:07,560
all those guys, Jerry Ferguson,
who was the great fullback who's

2933
02:34:07,560 --> 02:34:10,040
working in the strength and
conditioning room, you know,

2934
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:12,760
respectfully, I said this.
I said, you know, Beamer left

2935
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:15,720
with blueprint, some of the
stuff that need to be upgraded

2936
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:17,600
and modified and evolved into
the modern day.

2937
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:21,240
But as far as the importance of
relationships, I've always said

2938
02:34:21,240 --> 02:34:23,840
that when I've been on different
podcasts like too deep or Suns

2939
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:26,520
of Saturday or even this one,
I've always said it's the

2940
02:34:26,520 --> 02:34:30,560
relationships that will help.
You know, the relationships will

2941
02:34:31,080 --> 02:34:34,560
get you players because parents
and kids can see like if you've

2942
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:37,720
been recruited obviously like
Billy touched on, which is crazy

2943
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:40,960
right now, this NIL stuff.
I'm mad because I was on the NC

2944
02:34:40,960 --> 02:34:42,880
2A games and I ain't getting no
paper.

2945
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:45,520
I was on, I was on three of
them, bro.

2946
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:48,400
All I got was just a rating.
I think they rated me at 79.

2947
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:52,320
I was in my fields.
But now he's got, he's got to.

2948
02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:55,680
File a lawsuit.
Yeah, you know, you know, it is

2949
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:56,680
what it is.
I'm not a hater.

2950
02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:59,320
I'm happy for these young guys,
but it's a different game now.

2951
02:34:59,320 --> 02:35:02,360
But to have coaches that want to
stay, that aren't trying to get

2952
02:35:02,360 --> 02:35:04,760
the bag and want to be there,
it's a good feeling.

2953
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:06,400
I think it makes sense.
I don't want to get all corny

2954
02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:07,440
and make it more than what it
is.

2955
02:35:07,440 --> 02:35:10,760
I just think those relationships
matter when it comes to just

2956
02:35:11,160 --> 02:35:14,840
having coaches that understand
prize vision and, and what he

2957
02:35:14,840 --> 02:35:17,360
wants, you know, Because the
last thing I'll say about this

2958
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:22,000
is when a head coach, and Billy
talked about this a few years

2959
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:25,040
ago in the Twitter space, a head
coach is so much more than a

2960
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:25,680
coach.
He's Aceo.

2961
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:27,760
He's got to do tech tech talk
live.

2962
02:35:28,040 --> 02:35:31,480
He's got to go down to Tidewater
and Richmond and Northern

2963
02:35:31,600 --> 02:35:36,040
Virginia, do coaches clinics and
speak or you know, fundraising.

2964
02:35:36,400 --> 02:35:40,080
You got to have guys from your
administration, you know, main

2965
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:43,520
office staff to your assistant
coaches to the janitorial staff,

2966
02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:45,600
your trainers, everybody's got
to have your back.

2967
02:35:45,880 --> 02:35:48,720
You got to have people in that
office and in that meeting room

2968
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,760
and those meeting room over in
Castle that really know what

2969
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:55,560
pride wants you when his back is
turned and he has to be able to

2970
02:35:55,560 --> 02:35:57,800
trust those guys.
And I think when you have people

2971
02:35:57,800 --> 02:36:00,360
around you who trust, it's just
the energy is right.

2972
02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:03,320
You know, it's just a great
thing he's got going on right

2973
02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:04,960
now.
It'll you know, it'll be

2974
02:36:04,960 --> 02:36:07,440
interesting if we keep having
success, if we can retain all

2975
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:10,760
these guys, because I think that
would be very nostalgic on how

2976
02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:13,040
it used to be.
But you know, I love the energy

2977
02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:15,360
around the program when it comes
to the coaching staff and having

2978
02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:17,760
the right guys that used to be
there.

2979
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:21,240
Like, you know, you got Cam
Phillips back, Xavier DB, but

2980
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,320
they're not in positions.
They're they're in positions

2981
02:36:23,320 --> 02:36:24,400
where they're going to grow as
coaches.

2982
02:36:24,400 --> 02:36:26,280
You're not.
Unfortunately, we all love

2983
02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:30,080
Justin Hamilton, but he was put
in the unfair situation where I

2984
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:32,680
think pride knows these guys
need this, they need that.

2985
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:35,520
So he's he's doing it where they
can grow and learn and

2986
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:37,760
eventually get a promotion,
whether at Tech or somewhere

2987
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:40,680
else.
Yeah, I really like Dwight's

2988
02:36:40,680 --> 02:36:43,200
point about Pride kind of
sticking to the Beamer

2989
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,800
blueprint, but modernizing it in
the way that needs to be

2990
02:36:45,960 --> 02:36:48,000
modernized.
I think he's done a really good

2991
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,840
job bouncing those two things,
so let's keep the combo going,

2992
02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:52,680
one.
Second, I wanted to add, I

2993
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:55,840
wanted to add one thing on this,
on the coaching continuity,

2994
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:59,320
couple things.
Cam Phillips and Isaiah Ford had

2995
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:01,800
two different coaches.
They had Morehead and they had

2996
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:03,840
Wiggins.
You look at Wyatt Teller, he had

2997
02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:06,160
three different offensive line
coaches, Coach Grimes, Coach

2998
02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:11,120
Searles, Coach Vice.
And just look at how coaching

2999
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:15,160
turnover effects a guy like Dabo
Sweeney, effects a guy like Nick

3000
02:37:15,160 --> 02:37:16,720
Saban.
It affects everybody.

3001
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:21,360
And the one thing that I think
is lost on this staff that, you

3002
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:24,040
know, we're very quick to
criticize, we're not very quick

3003
02:37:24,040 --> 02:37:25,720
to realize how things have
improved.

3004
02:37:26,680 --> 02:37:30,040
Two years ago, the verbiage
around Coach Bowen was this

3005
02:37:30,040 --> 02:37:31,800
guy's trash.
He doesn't know how to call an

3006
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:33,640
offense.
He doesn't know how to adjust.

3007
02:37:33,640 --> 02:37:35,240
He doesn't know how to make end
game adjustments.

3008
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:38,080
I don't know how much clearer I
could be on this.

3009
02:37:38,480 --> 02:37:41,680
Coaches are just like you and
me.

3010
02:37:41,880 --> 02:37:46,480
They're just like players.
They learn, they adjust and they

3011
02:37:46,480 --> 02:37:49,640
get better over time.
It's not as simple as we bring

3012
02:37:49,640 --> 02:37:52,840
somebody in and they're good or
bad and they're going to be the

3013
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:56,280
same person every single year.
Coach Compton, I'm sure you are

3014
02:37:56,280 --> 02:37:59,480
a much better coach today than
you were ten years ago, right?

3015
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:03,400
Nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed from Coach

3016
02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:06,560
Bowen the person.
It has just changed as he has

3017
02:38:06,560 --> 02:38:09,840
grown with the game.
So I think these guys being

3018
02:38:09,840 --> 02:38:14,480
together, having trust, having
the ability to adjust and learn

3019
02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:17,240
along the way and grow with
their team, we're going to

3020
02:38:17,240 --> 02:38:21,160
continue to see that.
And I think that we need to give

3021
02:38:21,160 --> 02:38:24,440
props to a situation like that
because I'm sure people were

3022
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:27,960
very, very critical of a Coach
Beamer early in his career, but

3023
02:38:27,960 --> 02:38:31,280
also a Coach Wiles early on in
his career and also a Coach

3024
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:33,320
Foster very early on in his
career.

3025
02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:35,000
Coaches grow just like players
grow.

3026
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:38,640
That's a that's a really good
point.

3027
02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:42,640
That's a really good point.
Before I let Sheldon go, but I

3028
02:38:42,640 --> 02:38:46,080
do want to say this, Billy, me
and Dwight Victoria said.

3029
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:48,400
I think we were on the show
together, maybe on a space.

3030
02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:51,800
I'm not going to judge the coach
until he gets talent.

3031
02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:54,840
I don't care about the XS and OS
right now.

3032
02:38:55,200 --> 02:39:00,520
I need to know who he gets.
I can't judge Coach Bowen until

3033
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:03,600
he gets a player.
He we need talent.

3034
02:39:03,880 --> 02:39:07,640
So when he brought talent in, I
said OK, now we get to seek any

3035
02:39:07,640 --> 02:39:09,560
coach.
If you can't get the talent, it

3036
02:39:09,560 --> 02:39:12,920
don't matter how XS and OS you
are, you're not going to win as

3037
02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:15,240
many games as somebody who goes
out and gets Kyron drunk.

3038
02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:17,960
So it was on the Twitter.
Space.

3039
02:39:17,960 --> 02:39:20,680
It was on the Twitter Space when
me, you and Laura Johnson had

3040
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:24,000
like over 350 people in there
after the ODU loss.

3041
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,120
We won that joint until like
2:45 in the morning.

3042
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:30,160
That's when you saw your mercy.
I can't do no more of them too

3043
02:39:30,360 --> 02:39:33,120
old man.
Tally, if you and me show up to

3044
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:36,240
a Thanksgiving party, right?
And they're, they're

3045
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:38,680
broadcasting, hey, Tally's going
to put down some food.

3046
02:39:38,680 --> 02:39:40,000
Billy Ray's going to put down
some food.

3047
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:43,480
And we show up and grandma at
this Thanksgiving dinner, her

3048
02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:46,960
food is trash.
You can't judge if I'm going to

3049
02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:48,640
show up and I'm going to eat a
lot of food.

3050
02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:51,480
So when we show up to a
Thanksgiving dinner that has

3051
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:53,640
been prepared, they got the good
Mac and cheese, they got the

3052
02:39:53,640 --> 02:39:56,840
good mashed potatoes, they got
the good Turkey, then we can

3053
02:39:56,840 --> 02:39:59,960
actually show how we could put
down some food that is a crazy

3054
02:40:00,040 --> 02:40:03,400
reference to use.
But I, I completely agree with

3055
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:06,080
you, Don't judge, don't judge
somebody's ability to coach or

3056
02:40:06,080 --> 02:40:08,520
do anything if they're not given
the tools to do it correctly.

3057
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:12,360
So.
Well, prime company have a lot

3058
02:40:12,360 --> 02:40:15,040
of food to work with coming.
In this season.

3059
02:40:15,160 --> 02:40:17,240
They've got the, they've got
the, they've got the full

3060
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:22,200
buffet, the full full house.
Hope is our 4th in returning

3061
02:40:22,200 --> 02:40:25,800
production this year according
to Bill Collin of ESPN, and 2nd

3062
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:27,440
in returning production on
offense.

3063
02:40:28,000 --> 02:40:31,440
And I think we look at some of
the position groups to focus on

3064
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:33,840
the offense.
You look at offensive line, I

3065
02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:36,440
look at two guys in particular
on the left side, Xavier Chaplin

3066
02:40:36,440 --> 02:40:38,880
and Braylon Moore, who were
retro freshman last year, but

3067
02:40:38,920 --> 02:40:40,520
you know, had a full year of
experience under their belt.

3068
02:40:40,520 --> 02:40:42,960
They come back as sophomores
this season and they're

3069
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:46,920
surrounded by some old guys like
Hayden Moore and Parker Clements

3070
02:40:46,920 --> 02:40:48,800
and Cunningham from Georgia
State.

3071
02:40:49,240 --> 02:40:51,680
So opening the question, I
guess, you know, I wanted to

3072
02:40:51,680 --> 02:40:54,280
start with Robbie just to kind
of get get his thoughts on this.

3073
02:40:55,160 --> 02:40:56,720
You know, we keep talking about
continuity.

3074
02:40:57,160 --> 02:40:59,880
How integral do you see the
offensive line being to kind of

3075
02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:02,680
the overall operation of the
offense this year?

3076
02:41:02,880 --> 02:41:05,640
And just what value do you
think, you know, having having

3077
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:08,240
the guys who, you know, come
back from last year and kind of

3078
02:41:08,240 --> 02:41:11,880
take their bumps and bruises as
they did in 2023, How, how

3079
02:41:11,880 --> 02:41:14,000
valuable can that experience be
for, for their growth this

3080
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:16,640
season?
Oh, the experience is going to

3081
02:41:16,640 --> 02:41:22,800
be just having those guys
playing together more under the

3082
02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:28,280
same, the same verbiage, the
same systems, the same teachings

3083
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:30,640
day in and day out over that
time.

3084
02:41:30,880 --> 02:41:32,760
I mean, they're just going to
grow closer together.

3085
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:35,200
I talked about it in that last
segment.

3086
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:40,840
Offensive Lines from my
experience, don't do a lot of

3087
02:41:40,840 --> 02:41:42,840
rotating.
Now you have might have to mix

3088
02:41:42,840 --> 02:41:45,640
and match when you have to fill
somebody in some things like

3089
02:41:45,640 --> 02:41:46,800
that.
But there's not a lot of

3090
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:50,840
rotating because you build that
chemistry knowing exactly how

3091
02:41:50,840 --> 02:41:54,000
the guy besides you is going to
move and attack and, and, and

3092
02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:57,080
take on different things.
And I think that's going to be

3093
02:41:57,560 --> 02:42:00,440
the, the fact that you had two
young guys come in there

3094
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:02,760
learning a lot from some of the
older guys.

3095
02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:06,040
You have a coach now that's in
his second year going through

3096
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:08,680
this.
They're going to continue to

3097
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:13,040
build with the it's going to
build confidence in what they're

3098
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:15,000
doing.
They understand things more.

3099
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:16,440
They feel better with each
other.

3100
02:42:16,560 --> 02:42:18,640
They're building that chemistry.
And I think that's going to be a

3101
02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:20,920
big thing for them pushing
forward.

3102
02:42:20,920 --> 02:42:23,400
And I think it's just going to
make them better in the long

3103
02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:25,280
run.
And the guys behind them are

3104
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:28,120
going to see the same things and
continue to push it up.

3105
02:42:29,480 --> 02:42:33,920
Dwight, I want to ask you a
question and this is kind of how

3106
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:38,360
I'm thinking about this.
All season, every one of those

3107
02:42:38,360 --> 02:42:41,360
offensive lineman header have
heard everybody talking trash

3108
02:42:41,360 --> 02:42:43,600
about that unit.
All offseason they've heard

3109
02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:48,280
non-stop about how bad this unit
is, how horrible they are.

3110
02:42:48,480 --> 02:42:51,920
How if I saw Parker Clements in
an alley, it's on site.

3111
02:42:51,920 --> 02:42:54,120
First of all, none of you are
fighting Parker Clements.

3112
02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:57,120
Zero of you are fighting Parker
Clements and you would lose.

3113
02:42:58,120 --> 02:43:02,240
But we, when we interviewed
Kyron, he's I brought this up

3114
02:43:02,240 --> 02:43:04,560
and he was like, look, they all
hear what you're saying, like

3115
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:07,720
they all hear you guys.
At the end of the day, you look

3116
02:43:07,720 --> 02:43:10,920
back at guys like I'll say it
again, Jay Glock, Wyatt Teller,

3117
02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:13,840
Christian Darasaw, these are all
guys who got better year after

3118
02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:16,760
year after year after year.
And this time they're coming

3119
02:43:16,760 --> 02:43:20,720
back with a quarterback who is a
playmaker, dynamic running

3120
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:22,560
backs.
We talk about Tooting a lot.

3121
02:43:22,560 --> 02:43:25,480
Malachi Thomas is going to be
fantastic because he's healthy.

3122
02:43:25,480 --> 02:43:30,120
Finally, I'm so excited to watch
this unit play because I feel

3123
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:34,160
like Virginia Tech fans could
not have honestly a lower

3124
02:43:34,160 --> 02:43:37,040
expectation for this unit.
And I think, I think they're

3125
02:43:37,040 --> 02:43:38,800
going to come out and I think
they're going to, they're going

3126
02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:41,240
to improve dramatically this
upcoming year just based upon

3127
02:43:41,240 --> 02:43:44,440
the continuity, based upon the
amount of talent that they have

3128
02:43:44,440 --> 02:43:48,080
behind them.
I am so, so excited to watch

3129
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:50,600
this unit play.
And, and on that note, too,

3130
02:43:51,080 --> 02:43:53,640
losing Daquon Wright, incredible
talent.

3131
02:43:53,800 --> 02:43:55,840
Daquon Wright is an incredible
talent.

3132
02:43:56,880 --> 02:44:00,520
You are replacing Daquan Wright
with Gallo, Saint Germain and

3133
02:44:00,520 --> 02:44:03,600
Gosnell, who are all difference
makers in the run game.

3134
02:44:03,800 --> 02:44:06,040
If you have a defensive end
who's giving you problems,

3135
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:08,280
you're going to stick Nick Gallo
over there and you're going to

3136
02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:10,080
have him, you're going to have
him double team.

3137
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:12,480
You're going to have him help
out and help out where he needs

3138
02:44:12,480 --> 02:44:15,040
to help out.
So I think that you have three

3139
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:17,520
tight ends who all can
contribute in the run game are

3140
02:44:17,520 --> 02:44:19,720
going to make a huge difference.
It'll be interesting to see if

3141
02:44:19,720 --> 02:44:22,320
we do any type of H back
situation or have them in the

3142
02:44:22,320 --> 02:44:24,880
backfield, how we're going to
utilize them specifically

3143
02:44:25,040 --> 02:44:28,880
manipulate the pocket.
But I got my eyes on this

3144
02:44:28,880 --> 02:44:32,200
offensive line and I'm I'm very,
very bullish on them.

3145
02:44:33,040 --> 02:44:35,720
And I don't think it was as bad
as it, as everybody says it was

3146
02:44:35,720 --> 02:44:37,000
towards the end of last year
like.

3147
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:39,520
Everybody called historical.
We.

3148
02:44:40,000 --> 02:44:41,960
Like everybody was talking about
how it was awful.

3149
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:45,160
Look, they had their problems
and they had their issues, but

3150
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:48,640
we also had multiple games where
we rushed for over 100 yards

3151
02:44:49,080 --> 02:44:51,920
towards the end of the season
when they finally understood the

3152
02:44:51,920 --> 02:44:54,920
scheme, which changed three or
four times throughout the year.

3153
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:57,240
We talk about how important it
is from a chemistry standpoint.

3154
02:44:57,520 --> 02:45:00,480
What about knowing where you
need to go If we're changing our

3155
02:45:00,480 --> 02:45:03,320
scheme week to week because
we're trying to figure out A,

3156
02:45:03,320 --> 02:45:06,280
who's going to be our starting
quarterback and B, what type of

3157
02:45:06,280 --> 02:45:08,520
offense we're going to run to
match the starting quarterback

3158
02:45:08,520 --> 02:45:10,840
that we have, That's a huge
challenge not just for the

3159
02:45:10,840 --> 02:45:13,080
quarterback, but the offensive
line because you're not doing

3160
02:45:13,080 --> 02:45:16,080
the same thing week to week.
So I can't wait to watch these

3161
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:17,400
guys get out there and do their
thing.

3162
02:45:18,720 --> 02:45:21,760
The one thing that I the one
thing that I've seen from from

3163
02:45:21,760 --> 02:45:25,320
last shit that I'd give the the
offensive line credit on, but

3164
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:28,560
also the guys that's back there
running the ball, it's like once

3165
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:32,360
they seen that Tooten Tooten's
not going down with, it's hard

3166
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:35,240
to get him down with one person.
You know, it's hard to get Karen

3167
02:45:35,240 --> 02:45:37,960
down with one person.
But what I hate to see is that

3168
02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:42,200
somebody that's running the ball
in those early games, Tooten was

3169
02:45:42,200 --> 02:45:44,680
getting killed.
It was two and three people

3170
02:45:44,680 --> 02:45:47,920
hitting him in the backfield.
Later in the season you start

3171
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:50,880
seeing even if the lineman
messed up, they were going to

3172
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:53,120
the ball, they were going to get
somebody.

3173
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:55,320
Even if they hit the wrong
person, we're going to hit

3174
02:45:55,320 --> 02:45:57,240
somebody.
So because they knew that their

3175
02:45:57,240 --> 02:46:01,000
runners were staying up.
So I seen I think a Brody

3176
02:46:01,000 --> 02:46:05,080
Meadows the most like downfield
still blocking, going and find

3177
02:46:05,080 --> 02:46:07,520
somebody to hit.
You know, seeing stuff like that

3178
02:46:07,520 --> 02:46:11,760
does give you, I don't want to
say hope because I think that

3179
02:46:11,760 --> 02:46:14,800
the line will be fine.
I think they have enough leaders

3180
02:46:14,800 --> 02:46:16,600
to be like, Hey, you got to get
your ass in gear.

3181
02:46:17,040 --> 02:46:20,080
So I don't want to say hope, but
it it does give me like, and

3182
02:46:20,080 --> 02:46:22,440
they have people pushing them.
When you have some depth and you

3183
02:46:22,440 --> 02:46:25,120
have people behind you that say,
hey, if you mess up, I'm going

3184
02:46:25,120 --> 02:46:27,800
to take you out.
That does change a little bit of

3185
02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:29,840
what you do as well.
You know what I'm saying?

3186
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:32,520
Because I mean, I see it all the
time, like when my son's

3187
02:46:32,520 --> 02:46:34,880
playing, he he's the only center
field on his team.

3188
02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:37,240
When they bring another kid in
and he plays center field too,

3189
02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:40,160
he UPS his game a little bit.
So that's kind of what I want to

3190
02:46:40,160 --> 02:46:43,280
see because of the depth piece
and you know, having a little

3191
02:46:43,280 --> 02:46:46,520
bit more people that can go in
and rotate into places and

3192
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:51,160
figure out who's the best five
week in, week out on the

3193
02:46:51,160 --> 02:46:54,520
offensive line.
Well, also too, I, I just think,

3194
02:46:54,520 --> 02:46:57,520
you know, Billy touched on it.
I think if you have an offensive

3195
02:46:57,520 --> 02:47:00,160
line coach you're familiar with,
you know, I talked to Tyler

3196
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:03,400
Bowen back in April at the
spring game and Tyler Bowen was

3197
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:05,600
telling me on the sideline
during the Friday walkthrough he

3198
02:47:05,600 --> 02:47:08,440
was like, yeah, Victoria man, we
feeling real good around here

3199
02:47:08,440 --> 02:47:10,360
because everybody kind of knows
what they're supposed to be

3200
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:13,040
doing versus last year.
We're all trying to figure it

3201
02:47:13,040 --> 02:47:14,400
out.
You know, I'm paraphrasing, but

3202
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:17,320
that's basically what he was
saying, which you can see.

3203
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:19,760
I just think when I look back at
my career and I'm looking back,

3204
02:47:19,760 --> 02:47:22,400
you know, and UNC and other
teams, you know, Billy made a

3205
02:47:22,400 --> 02:47:26,080
fantastic point about, you know,
Dabo losing Venables and the

3206
02:47:26,080 --> 02:47:28,400
other guy.
Like when you lose great coaches

3207
02:47:28,680 --> 02:47:31,120
and you can't replace them with
guys that fit your culture and

3208
02:47:31,120 --> 02:47:32,720
that did not, there's no
continuity.

3209
02:47:33,080 --> 02:47:35,160
The players suffer.
You know when I had Coach

3210
02:47:35,160 --> 02:47:37,920
Grimes, not the Grimes y'all
know that was with Fuente, but

3211
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:40,000
another Grimes.
Really, really great coach.

3212
02:47:40,600 --> 02:47:43,840
He was there my red shirt year,
my red shirt freshman, sophomore

3213
02:47:43,840 --> 02:47:46,280
and junior year.
He was tough as nails.

3214
02:47:46,280 --> 02:47:48,200
This is a guy that had a heart
attack during the game.

3215
02:47:48,200 --> 02:47:50,800
He had a heart attack during the
Boston College game and still

3216
02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:53,000
called us all before he drove
himself to the hospital.

3217
02:47:54,320 --> 02:47:56,640
He end up leaving to go coach at
Arkansas because he was an FCC

3218
02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:57,960
guy.
But then Stein Spring who was a

3219
02:47:57,960 --> 02:48:01,120
tight ends coach to go over him
as a online coach and we kept

3220
02:48:01,120 --> 02:48:04,880
the same verbiage.
Ricky Bussell was AOC, so the

3221
02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:08,200
same offense that drunken Miller
ran, Maurice Josejo, Al Clark

3222
02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:09,960
ran in as well.
Same offense Mike ran.

3223
02:48:09,960 --> 02:48:12,840
So when you're in office
alignment, if you're a backup

3224
02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:14,960
and you, you know, you're
getting time and blowouts,

3225
02:48:14,960 --> 02:48:19,160
you're getting in to give me 5
plays rest and you step up and

3226
02:48:19,240 --> 02:48:20,320
you know you're going to be
good.

3227
02:48:20,320 --> 02:48:23,840
And then on top of it, like
Billy said, you know, that's one

3228
02:48:23,840 --> 02:48:26,640
thing I'm not jealous of.
I'm jealous of the NIL, but I'm

3229
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:30,200
not jealous of social media.
I'm so glad we did not have X

3230
02:48:30,200 --> 02:48:32,680
AKA Twitter when I played, man,
because there's so many guys

3231
02:48:32,680 --> 02:48:34,800
that think they know.
Like for example, I remember

3232
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:41,520
last year we ran, we ran 4th and
1:00 and we didn't get it.

3233
02:48:41,520 --> 02:48:44,480
Everybody was like this line,
this play calling sucks.

3234
02:48:44,480 --> 02:48:48,000
And I was like actually the
tight end and the backside

3235
02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:50,320
tackle missed their block.
They did a run blitz and they

3236
02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:52,320
did, they whiffed on it.
That's why he got tackled in the

3237
02:48:52,320 --> 02:48:54,080
backfield.
I'm one of those guys that

3238
02:48:54,080 --> 02:48:56,600
watches the offensive line every
play on all levels.

3239
02:48:57,040 --> 02:48:59,360
So it's one of those things
where you have to pay attention.

3240
02:48:59,360 --> 02:49:02,560
But I, I, I think a lot of
stuff, man, we're going to learn

3241
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:04,920
first week, man, against
Vanderbilt, which is good.

3242
02:49:04,920 --> 02:49:06,840
That's a good, that's a good
game to start off with.

3243
02:49:09,200 --> 02:49:13,840
I know, I know talking from
conversations with with Coach

3244
02:49:13,880 --> 02:49:18,160
Crook, he he's a man that's
built on the mentality and, and

3245
02:49:18,160 --> 02:49:21,160
that's one thing that's it's
taken some time for him to, to

3246
02:49:21,160 --> 02:49:25,800
push into that online room.
I by no means have have doubted

3247
02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:27,360
them.
I know they've had rough times.

3248
02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:31,520
But he pushes a mentality like
he he sets those guys up to

3249
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:35,240
understand, regardless of what
anybody says and what anybody

3250
02:49:35,240 --> 02:49:37,840
believes, we've got to be the
hardest workers on this field.

3251
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:43,240
And you talk Billy talking about
getting downfield and, and these

3252
02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:46,480
guys being the people that you
see running downfield.

3253
02:49:47,280 --> 02:49:49,400
That's a mentality that crooks
putting in there.

3254
02:49:49,640 --> 02:49:53,120
I guarantee you that it's a
culture he likes to build and

3255
02:49:53,120 --> 02:49:56,320
and push in.
And when he get the more they

3256
02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:59,680
buy into that mentality and push
into that culture, the better

3257
02:49:59,680 --> 02:50:01,800
they're going to get.
And then they're going to bring

3258
02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:05,200
those younger guys, bring the
new guys that come in, they

3259
02:50:05,200 --> 02:50:08,840
start to take in that mentality.
And I know I'm coming here

3260
02:50:08,840 --> 02:50:11,680
because of this.
And this is the way that we play

3261
02:50:11,880 --> 02:50:14,120
and it's just going to continue
to breed that success.

3262
02:50:14,120 --> 02:50:17,920
I think it's going to push it, I
mean, even further in the years

3263
02:50:17,920 --> 02:50:21,040
to come, as long as they can
keep that that group together.

3264
02:50:21,920 --> 02:50:24,800
One final point 2 on the old
line is that, you know I've said

3265
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:28,480
this before, back when I used to
work for Rivals and 247, it is

3266
02:50:28,480 --> 02:50:31,520
the hardest position to recruit
and it's the hardest position to

3267
02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:34,440
transition to the next level.
D1D2 or D3.

3268
02:50:34,800 --> 02:50:37,040
Like I was a monster in high
school, but I only faced a

3269
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:38,480
couple of guys that were on my
level.

3270
02:50:38,880 --> 02:50:40,920
Some guys I look like the, you
know, the kid from the blind

3271
02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:43,240
side when he was driving that
redhead D line all the way into

3272
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:44,880
the parking lot.
You know what I'm saying?

3273
02:50:44,960 --> 02:50:47,040
Because I was going against the
guy that came to my belly button

3274
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:49,920
because, you know, you might go
against the Phoebus or Oscar

3275
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:51,640
Smith, but then there's a couple
of weeks where you're going

3276
02:50:51,640 --> 02:50:53,600
against a team that's just
terrible.

3277
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:55,640
Like, you know, playing, playing
Gloucester.

3278
02:50:55,960 --> 02:50:58,400
Gloucester was horrible.
Like I knew I wasn't going to

3279
02:50:58,400 --> 02:51:01,160
play like into the first half
because I was like, man, these

3280
02:51:01,160 --> 02:51:03,680
guys are terrible.
And they weren't bad kids.

3281
02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:06,760
They were just not on our level.
So, you know, just because

3282
02:51:06,760 --> 02:51:09,160
you're really dominant in high
school, what whatever states you

3283
02:51:09,160 --> 02:51:12,840
play in, it's the verbiage and
understanding the fronts and

3284
02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:16,320
knowing how you might see one
front before the the the ball is

3285
02:51:16,320 --> 02:51:21,000
stepped and they may switch.
So like that transition is hard.

3286
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:23,320
And then if you don't know the
offense, the offense and the

3287
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:26,120
verbiage, like, you know,
identifying the mic and there

3288
02:51:26,120 --> 02:51:28,960
are very few high schools.
And I mean, of course schools

3289
02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:31,640
like IMG and I'm sure Billy
played or seen some schools like

3290
02:51:31,640 --> 02:51:36,280
that up in Jersey, but not every
school in high school.

3291
02:51:36,480 --> 02:51:40,600
Virginia, DC, Maryland are like,
oh, okay, I need you Mike to

3292
02:51:40,600 --> 02:51:43,720
identify the Mike linebacker.
I need you tell me, where's the

3293
02:51:43,720 --> 02:51:45,520
wheel?
Like, you know, it's like block

3294
02:51:45,520 --> 02:51:49,400
the guy in front of you, you
know, like bro, like you know,

3295
02:51:49,400 --> 02:51:50,920
then you get the tech or
whatever.

3296
02:51:50,920 --> 02:51:52,480
Maryland, you hear whatever you
like.

3297
02:51:52,720 --> 02:51:55,080
Hey, son, where's the wheel?
You know what I'm saying?

3298
02:51:55,080 --> 02:51:57,240
Like head up, like even blocking
with your head up.

3299
02:51:57,480 --> 02:52:00,960
It's small things like, and
that's why I love like we got a

3300
02:52:00,960 --> 02:52:03,280
kid I love up here.
Coming to check he's at Forest

3301
02:52:03,280 --> 02:52:04,920
Park.
I just interviewed him on

3302
02:52:04,920 --> 02:52:07,880
Princeton County media day.
He looks, he's a great looking

3303
02:52:07,880 --> 02:52:08,760
lineman.
He's good.

3304
02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:11,280
But I told him, I said, hey, you
got to get in the habit of

3305
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:13,480
studying film.
You got to get in the habit of

3306
02:52:13,480 --> 02:52:15,560
conditioning because Billy knows
this, especially when Mike

3307
02:52:15,560 --> 02:52:19,000
Gentry was there.
We conditioned like receivers.

3308
02:52:19,760 --> 02:52:22,040
We did condition.
You think I'm tripping?

3309
02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:26,360
We we, we conditioned bro.
And that's another thing.

3310
02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:27,680
But anyway, I don't want to take
up too much.

3311
02:52:27,720 --> 02:52:31,080
I just know that the old line is
always one of those spots where

3312
02:52:31,720 --> 02:52:34,440
you know, everyone's not going
to have a Georgia or an Alabama.

3313
02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:37,000
I always tweet, you know, look
at the line like Georgia has.

3314
02:52:37,320 --> 02:52:39,600
They make everything look good.
But if you can get some guys

3315
02:52:40,120 --> 02:52:42,360
that play as one in their
physical, you're going to have

3316
02:52:42,360 --> 02:52:46,200
you're going to have a lot more
wins and losses. 100% let me go

3317
02:52:46,200 --> 02:52:50,200
into this because so much of
what y'all three are talking

3318
02:52:50,200 --> 02:52:54,840
about is culture and announced
very early and it probably was

3319
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:59,200
in the motion months ago.
Was the on field roles now for

3320
02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:02,920
guys like Adibi, for Brent Davis
going to be able to effectively

3321
02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:05,800
now work with the offensive line
and have a voice?

3322
02:53:06,560 --> 02:53:09,200
How big is that?
Because we're making the point

3323
02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:12,680
about the continuity, right?
Everybody who got named to

3324
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:16,760
effectively associates with the
exception of Cam Phillips had

3325
02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:18,760
been in there.
How big is that?

3326
02:53:18,760 --> 02:53:21,080
Is the culture is going to
continue to get preached?

3327
02:53:21,560 --> 02:53:24,920
Billy, I'll let you go with this
one because, because, because

3328
02:53:24,920 --> 02:53:26,520
it's your former teammates on
there, right?

3329
02:53:27,200 --> 02:53:33,280
Yeah, I mean, not Winslow, but
Cam, I mean Cam, Cam, Cam is one

3330
02:53:33,280 --> 02:53:36,120
of the is, is one of the best
wide receivers to ever play at

3331
02:53:36,120 --> 02:53:39,280
Tech.
And his ability and his age to

3332
02:53:39,520 --> 02:53:43,400
connect with these kids.
Like when I've talked to Tucker

3333
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:46,600
or some of these other guys
about his impact, it's not just

3334
02:53:46,600 --> 02:53:49,280
his knowledge of the game, it's
his knowledge of being in their

3335
02:53:49,280 --> 02:53:51,640
shoes and going through what
they're going through.

3336
02:53:52,400 --> 02:53:54,040
And I think that that plays a
huge role.

3337
02:53:54,040 --> 02:53:57,280
At the end of the day, if you
have AI don't mean to be Aegis

3338
02:53:57,320 --> 02:54:00,600
here, but if you have a staff
that is compiled of, you know,

3339
02:54:00,600 --> 02:54:04,200
4050 sixty year old men, there's
not a whole lot they're going to

3340
02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:07,400
be able to talk to and relate to
with players on their team.

3341
02:54:07,400 --> 02:54:10,640
And the fact that you have a a
Winslow and a Cam Phillips and

3342
02:54:10,640 --> 02:54:13,360
guys who have gone through this
and been there before, that

3343
02:54:13,360 --> 02:54:16,280
makes a huge difference.
And then on the flip side, you

3344
02:54:16,280 --> 02:54:18,840
know, I'm not, I'm not
advocating for too many cooks in

3345
02:54:18,840 --> 02:54:22,840
the kitchen here, but you know,
like, there's no way other way

3346
02:54:22,840 --> 02:54:24,920
to slice it.
Coach Kill had an effect on

3347
02:54:24,920 --> 02:54:28,520
Virginia Tech's offense in 2019.
That was another brain that was

3348
02:54:28,520 --> 02:54:30,960
able to sit in the meeting
rooms, breakdown what was going

3349
02:54:30,960 --> 02:54:35,280
on on offense and be able to
bring a different recipe to the

3350
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:38,040
table, a different opinion to
the table and kind of look at

3351
02:54:38,040 --> 02:54:42,640
things for what they are.
So I think, look, it's huge.

3352
02:54:42,640 --> 02:54:45,600
And I love that coach prize
leading into having former

3353
02:54:45,600 --> 02:54:48,320
players on this staff.
I love that former players want

3354
02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:50,680
to come back and be a part of
this staff as well.

3355
02:54:51,520 --> 02:54:54,960
It makes a huge difference.
And speaking specifically to

3356
02:54:54,960 --> 02:54:59,000
guys like Cam and Adibi, having
somebody that you can go and not

3357
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:04,400
ask necessarily, hey, where do I
go on, you know, 49 wing, snap,

3358
02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:06,480
whatever.
Having a guy that you can go and

3359
02:55:06,480 --> 02:55:10,200
ask him about his experience and
his time at tech and how he

3360
02:55:10,200 --> 02:55:12,680
handled different things in his
day-to-day, I think that makes a

3361
02:55:12,680 --> 02:55:14,440
huge difference.
And I love like this isn't

3362
02:55:14,440 --> 02:55:16,800
broadcast because he's not that
kind of guy at all.

3363
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:21,720
Isaiah Ford's been back to tech
a bunch of times mentoring the

3364
02:55:21,720 --> 02:55:23,560
guys, talking to him, helping
him out.

3365
02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:27,600
He's prioritized getting back
and they've prioritized asking

3366
02:55:27,600 --> 02:55:29,960
him to come back and work with
these wide receivers.

3367
02:55:30,920 --> 02:55:34,160
And I think that that's
fantastic that his opinion is

3368
02:55:34,160 --> 02:55:36,480
being sought after and he's
interested in coming back and

3369
02:55:36,640 --> 02:55:39,440
and doing that.
So shout out to Isaiah.

3370
02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:44,400
Yeah, I think the staff has done
a really good job of leaning on

3371
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:48,560
their alumni, like leaning on
the football alumni a lot more

3372
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:52,400
than I think we are used to.
And and that's not just a knock

3373
02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:56,520
on on Fuente, because I feel
like even going back to the

3374
02:55:56,520 --> 02:56:01,400
latter days of Bieber's time,
there wasn't quite as much of

3375
02:56:01,400 --> 02:56:04,840
that as you would have liked.
And I love seeing that aspect

3376
02:56:04,840 --> 02:56:08,280
kind of coming back into the
Blacksburg culture and the hokey

3377
02:56:08,280 --> 02:56:10,280
culture.
It's probably easier.

3378
02:56:10,280 --> 02:56:14,080
It's probably easier to to do
that when it's not.

3379
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:17,200
I'm trying to think of what it
would be like if, you know, a

3380
02:56:17,200 --> 02:56:20,640
camera Isaiah were to come back
with the same staff that was

3381
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:22,280
here, right?
Like the fact that there's a

3382
02:56:22,280 --> 02:56:24,800
disconnect and there's a new
group that you're getting

3383
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:27,320
familiar with and it's not
Isaiah going back.

3384
02:56:27,360 --> 02:56:29,600
And then the coaching staff has
familiarity with Isaiah from

3385
02:56:29,600 --> 02:56:33,440
when he was a 16 year old boy
growing up in Florida.

3386
02:56:33,720 --> 02:56:35,520
They're coming out and they're
looking at this as an

3387
02:56:35,520 --> 02:56:38,600
opportunity to grow in coaching
and grow in that field.

3388
02:56:38,840 --> 02:56:41,360
And it's not just going back to
where you started with the same

3389
02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:44,880
faces and the same familiarity
and the same situation.

3390
02:56:45,080 --> 02:56:49,080
You're joining a new staff,
bringing your opinions from your

3391
02:56:49,080 --> 02:56:51,520
time and your experience with a
different staff and a completely

3392
02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:53,400
different setup, and then
applying that to what they're

3393
02:56:53,400 --> 02:56:55,520
building now.
So I think there's a stark

3394
02:56:55,520 --> 02:56:59,840
difference there too.
Yeah, that's a great point.

3395
02:56:59,840 --> 02:57:04,560
I think that's a great point.
B, When you talk about even in

3396
02:57:04,560 --> 02:57:07,200
the Beamer ladder years, you
know, I remember when I was

3397
02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:10,400
there, you know, you could tell
it was time for Coach Kavanaugh

3398
02:57:10,400 --> 02:57:12,360
and a lot of those guys to to
retire.

3399
02:57:12,840 --> 02:57:17,280
But I think when I look at some
of the struggles bringing in

3400
02:57:17,280 --> 02:57:22,640
guys like Leffler, Leffler is a
good OC, but you got to think

3401
02:57:22,640 --> 02:57:26,840
about the backs we had with JC
Coleman, Sean McKenzie, and

3402
02:57:26,880 --> 02:57:29,400
Marshawn Williams from Phoebus.
And there's another guy I'm

3403
02:57:29,400 --> 02:57:31,240
forgetting.
We had a lot of backs, right?

3404
02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:35,040
But I felt like, because I used
to do the pregame show with Kyle

3405
02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:37,440
Belly during that time.
So I was there and we went on

3406
02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:41,840
before Bill Roth and MM Burnup.
And then we did the postgame and

3407
02:57:41,840 --> 02:57:45,080
then we went in the depressor.
And I could tell at that time

3408
02:57:45,080 --> 02:57:48,240
that I used to tell Kyle, I said
we got to get some young blood

3409
02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:52,440
up in here, man, because it was
like basically a lot of older

3410
02:57:52,440 --> 02:57:55,320
gentlemen that really can, you
know, even though Beamer was

3411
02:57:55,320 --> 02:57:57,720
dancing and had his hat to the
back and was doing, you know,

3412
02:57:57,720 --> 02:58:01,000
the surf and all of that, the
rest of the coaching staff, a

3413
02:58:01,000 --> 02:58:03,680
lot of our methods became
antiquated and outdated.

3414
02:58:03,680 --> 02:58:06,760
You heard but Foster talk about
that when Fuente got hired, when

3415
02:58:06,760 --> 02:58:09,960
Fuente came in and was like, we
got to change our recruiting

3416
02:58:09,960 --> 02:58:13,040
pitch with the letters because
Foster had said we were using

3417
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:16,200
the same graphics from the 90s,
you know what I'm saying?

3418
02:58:16,200 --> 02:58:19,960
So having guys like Cam and them
in the locker room and you know,

3419
02:58:19,960 --> 02:58:24,240
guys that recently did it in the
NFL or XYFL, also being able to

3420
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:27,200
speak their language, understand
the music they're listening to,

3421
02:58:27,640 --> 02:58:28,920
it's huge.
That's why I feel it's a good

3422
02:58:28,920 --> 02:58:32,280
balance because the coaching
staff is not also, they're not

3423
02:58:32,280 --> 02:58:34,360
they're older, but they're still
not out of touch.

3424
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:36,400
Like it's just, it's a good
balance.

3425
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:39,000
And culture is one of those
things I've been saying, you

3426
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:42,400
know, you heard how probably
between me and Brendan Hill, we

3427
02:58:42,400 --> 02:58:47,600
probably said that word 1000
times on X because that's what I

3428
02:58:47,600 --> 02:58:49,160
saw in the later years of
Beamer.

3429
02:58:49,160 --> 02:58:51,920
And then when Fuente, after his
first three years, they were

3430
02:58:51,920 --> 02:58:54,440
real successful.
I felt like the brand took a

3431
02:58:54,440 --> 02:58:56,520
major hit.
I was listening to Suns this

3432
02:58:56,520 --> 02:58:58,920
Saturday one time and I'm glad
Billy said that because if they

3433
02:58:58,920 --> 02:59:01,120
had a call and I would have
called in and say it, Billy said

3434
02:59:01,400 --> 02:59:04,840
listen guys, he told him.
He said, I'm sorry to inform you

3435
02:59:04,840 --> 02:59:07,560
guys, but Virginia Tech is not
the school y'all think it is

3436
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:09,160
anymore.
Our brand is trash.

3437
02:59:09,800 --> 02:59:13,600
And I kept trying to tell people
that because if you remember, we

3438
02:59:13,600 --> 02:59:17,040
missed out on Desean Han, who
had us number one.

3439
02:59:17,320 --> 02:59:19,480
I I took him.
He's not even take him.

3440
02:59:19,480 --> 02:59:21,800
He's following me At Virginia
Tech on his first visit, he met

3441
02:59:21,800 --> 02:59:24,480
Tyrod Taylor and Cam Chancellor.
We were number one.

3442
02:59:24,480 --> 02:59:26,160
We dropped the five.
He went to Alabama.

3443
02:59:26,320 --> 02:59:30,000
Josh Sweat went to Alabama.
I mean, Florida State, all

3444
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:32,160
right, Florida State, we were
his number one.

3445
02:59:32,160 --> 02:59:34,200
Stein Spring had them.
We finished number two behind

3446
02:59:34,200 --> 02:59:37,080
Florida State.
Kevin Ford, Ricky Slade, junior,

3447
02:59:37,360 --> 02:59:41,160
top five players in the nation,
top five backs chose Penn State,

3448
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:43,240
both of them, even though one of
them was already there.

3449
02:59:44,000 --> 02:59:46,640
We kept finishing the second.
This Derek Noddy, who plays in

3450
02:59:46,640 --> 02:59:52,560
the NFL was a big time because
of lineman in the 757 chose what

3451
02:59:52,560 --> 02:59:54,440
you call it Florida State as
well.

3452
02:59:54,840 --> 02:59:57,960
So we lost that edge.
Our brand was so bad because the

3453
02:59:57,960 --> 03:00:00,240
coach red tech was outdated and
antiquated.

3454
03:00:00,760 --> 03:00:04,080
The Beamer ball thing was great.
That lunch pail was still

3455
03:00:04,080 --> 03:00:07,360
impactful, but it was almost
like, yeah, you guys have the

3456
03:00:07,360 --> 03:00:12,160
history, but you're going 6 and
six and and kids.

3457
03:00:12,880 --> 03:00:16,800
Kids are not kids these days,
probably.

3458
03:00:16,800 --> 03:00:19,880
They know who Michael Vick is.
They didn't grow up watching

3459
03:00:19,880 --> 03:00:22,560
Michael Vick.
Like you can only retweet these

3460
03:00:22,560 --> 03:00:26,840
videos for so long and it's
almost like today you're not

3461
03:00:26,840 --> 03:00:29,520
going up to people in Chicago
and saying, man, you're a Bulls

3462
03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:32,000
fan like Michael Jordan.
Like they don't know they did.

3463
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:33,520
They didn't live through Michael
Jordan.

3464
03:00:33,520 --> 03:00:34,640
They don't know what Michael
Jordan is.

3465
03:00:34,640 --> 03:00:38,280
They know Lonzo Ball and
finishing as a lottery team for

3466
03:00:38,280 --> 03:00:41,200
the last 20 years and having no
playoff success outside of the

3467
03:00:41,200 --> 03:00:44,960
blip of Derek Derrick Rose.
The coaches that are able to

3468
03:00:45,320 --> 03:00:48,440
keep up with the times.
And I said coaches.

3469
03:00:48,440 --> 03:00:53,040
I really just mean coach Nick
Saban is the only guy in my

3470
03:00:53,040 --> 03:00:57,360
opinion, who did this perfectly.
He at the exact right time,

3471
03:00:57,360 --> 03:01:01,040
realized defense is not going,
defense alone is not going to

3472
03:01:01,040 --> 03:01:04,160
win the national championships.
And he went out and he got the

3473
03:01:04,160 --> 03:01:06,960
best offensive coordinator that
was available every single

3474
03:01:06,960 --> 03:01:11,680
cycle, prioritize the fast-paced
offense and prioritized new

3475
03:01:11,840 --> 03:01:15,000
offensive schemes.
And that is why he had his first

3476
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:17,120
dynasty.
And he had his second dynasty

3477
03:01:17,120 --> 03:01:21,080
because he wasn't headstrong and
was able to adjust as the game

3478
03:01:21,080 --> 03:01:24,240
adjusted.
Nick Saban back in 2006 probably

3479
03:01:24,240 --> 03:01:28,400
wasn't taking pictures and
Lamborghinis and driving guys

3480
03:01:28,400 --> 03:01:31,320
down to what whatever version of
in and out they have in

3481
03:01:31,320 --> 03:01:33,640
Tuscaloosa.
But he played the game a little

3482
03:01:33,640 --> 03:01:36,320
bit and we're going to see if
Dabo Sweeney did.

3483
03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:39,080
Spotlight on him.
Right now, is he going to

3484
03:01:39,080 --> 03:01:42,120
crystals, is he going to be able
or jack-in-the-box, is he going

3485
03:01:42,120 --> 03:01:46,160
to be able to make those
adjustments the same way that a

3486
03:01:46,160 --> 03:01:49,200
Nick Saban did before?
So jury's out on that.

3487
03:01:51,280 --> 03:01:54,600
Nick Saban, he was a Nick Saban
was yeah, he he he was, he was

3488
03:01:54,600 --> 03:01:57,240
different along with that
offense.

3489
03:01:57,240 --> 03:01:59,440
I mean, yeah, along with him
changing that offense.

3490
03:01:59,640 --> 03:02:02,520
You was used to him having those
big old defensive lineman like

3491
03:02:03,240 --> 03:02:06,200
Terence Cody.
And he realized I can't win like

3492
03:02:06,200 --> 03:02:08,080
that no more.
I'm going to change that up.

3493
03:02:08,680 --> 03:02:12,040
And he started getting lineman.
He started getting lineman that

3494
03:02:12,040 --> 03:02:14,160
were big, but they ran fast as
well.

3495
03:02:14,160 --> 03:02:17,120
So Nick was just a little bit
ahead of his time most of the

3496
03:02:17,120 --> 03:02:19,280
time.
But Dwight was hitting on a

3497
03:02:19,280 --> 03:02:21,160
couple of things.
We've hit on a lot of stuff

3498
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:23,840
tonight.
I do want to hit this question,

3499
03:02:23,840 --> 03:02:28,640
though, to kind of go along with
like Dwight was saying about our

3500
03:02:28,640 --> 03:02:33,240
brand and like Billy, I said, so
this statement, the Hokies are

3501
03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:35,160
back.
You know a lot of people have

3502
03:02:35,160 --> 03:02:40,760
been throwing it around thinking
it when will when will you see

3503
03:02:40,760 --> 03:02:45,240
an example or blank?
What happens when you know the

3504
03:02:45,240 --> 03:02:48,000
Hokies are back?
Oh, man, who started that?

3505
03:02:48,080 --> 03:02:50,760
Who started that statement, man?
Who everybody, everybody

3506
03:02:50,760 --> 03:02:51,560
started.
Let me tell you.

3507
03:02:51,560 --> 03:02:54,520
Let me tell you, let me tell you
when I when I will say the

3508
03:02:54,520 --> 03:02:58,520
Hokies are back despite the
winnings and things like that.

3509
03:02:58,920 --> 03:03:00,840
This is when I would think the
Hokies are back.

3510
03:03:01,680 --> 03:03:06,920
When our social media team takes
a look and goes Michael Vick,

3511
03:03:08,360 --> 03:03:12,000
you could pick five quarterbacks
or you can pick 10 quarterbacks

3512
03:03:12,520 --> 03:03:14,400
and you can do it during Black
Black History Month.

3513
03:03:14,400 --> 03:03:18,560
You can go Michael Vick all the
way up to Kyron drones and you

3514
03:03:18,560 --> 03:03:21,920
just do 2 clips of them and say
this is Virginia Tech.

3515
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:25,240
That's how I know we back.
That's what Virginia Tech is.

3516
03:03:25,240 --> 03:03:28,480
Even when you think I don't care
if they're black or white.

3517
03:03:28,480 --> 03:03:31,120
But when you think about
quarterbacks and mobile

3518
03:03:31,120 --> 03:03:35,280
quarterbacks across the nation,
you think about Virginia Tech

3519
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:38,680
and the way that they play
football, when they start

3520
03:03:38,680 --> 03:03:43,080
tapping into that and when we
see that Virginia takes back,

3521
03:03:43,600 --> 03:03:44,240
I'm so.
Glad.

3522
03:03:45,120 --> 03:03:47,320
I'm so glad you brought this up
because I wasn't going to bring

3523
03:03:47,320 --> 03:03:49,960
it up.
But my good friend John Robinson

3524
03:03:51,400 --> 03:03:53,240
from New Jersey grew up in
Englewood.

3525
03:03:53,960 --> 03:03:56,440
He called me up and he goes,
hey, I'm watching.

3526
03:03:57,320 --> 03:03:59,720
John Robinson is an African
American from Englewood, and he

3527
03:03:59,720 --> 03:04:04,920
says, hey, I'm looking at all
this hokey hype and I think I'm

3528
03:04:04,920 --> 03:04:07,000
buying in.
And I said, well, what's the

3529
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:08,720
difference now?
I mean, Miami's got a bunch of

3530
03:04:08,720 --> 03:04:10,640
hype and all these other teams
got a bunch of hype.

3531
03:04:10,640 --> 03:04:13,560
And he says, I mean, to be
honest, I looked at your roster

3532
03:04:14,120 --> 03:04:17,520
and behind quarterback, you
don't have a Colton, you don't

3533
03:04:17,520 --> 03:04:20,440
have a Todd, you don't have a
Henry.

3534
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:24,160
You have a tyrant lined up
behind behind center.

3535
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:26,840
You know who has those?
You know who has those names

3536
03:04:26,960 --> 03:04:28,360
now?
Clemson.

3537
03:04:29,040 --> 03:04:35,040
Clemson has the K and the Chads
and the the offensive lineman

3538
03:04:35,040 --> 03:04:37,720
names.
I don't see the Tajas in the in

3539
03:04:37,720 --> 03:04:42,240
the in, the in, the in the
Kwan's and in in in.

3540
03:04:43,440 --> 03:04:49,360
In, in, in all seriousness, like
the I, I think, I think to

3541
03:04:49,360 --> 03:04:51,760
answer your question and tie
this back into it, I think it's

3542
03:04:51,760 --> 03:04:54,000
a couple things for me.
It's playing meaningful football

3543
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:56,080
in November.
We talk about this on our show

3544
03:04:56,080 --> 03:04:57,480
all the time.
Playing meaningful football in

3545
03:04:57,480 --> 03:04:59,640
November is something that
Virginia Tech prided itself on

3546
03:04:59,640 --> 03:05:04,560
doing for over a decade.
I think that's huge #2 home

3547
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:07,440
field and Virginia Tech is more
than just an entrance.

3548
03:05:07,480 --> 03:05:11,880
Like I say this a ton.
I got a ton of Flack after the

3549
03:05:11,880 --> 03:05:15,080
West Virginia game where my dad
texted me after the West

3550
03:05:15,080 --> 03:05:17,320
Virginia game and he said you
guys should stop doing Enter

3551
03:05:17,320 --> 03:05:19,760
Sandman.
Now, obviously, he was being a

3552
03:05:19,760 --> 03:05:23,600
little facetious here, but he
said it's just got to get old

3553
03:05:23,880 --> 03:05:27,120
watching you guys do this
incredible thing and then come

3554
03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:30,480
out and it doesn't live up to
that expectation when when that

3555
03:05:30,480 --> 03:05:34,720
is not the first thing And the
only thing that people associate

3556
03:05:34,720 --> 03:05:38,120
with Virginia Tech is you better
TuneIn for the 1st 90 seconds.

3557
03:05:38,640 --> 03:05:40,600
That's going to be huge.
It's going to be awesome.

3558
03:05:41,240 --> 03:05:44,800
And then lastly, and I want to
credit this to Kyron, it's

3559
03:05:44,800 --> 03:05:48,160
playing with the swagger.
It's playing with I'm not the

3560
03:05:48,160 --> 03:05:51,280
nail, I'm the hammer.
And Virginia Tech was not doing

3561
03:05:51,280 --> 03:05:53,040
that in the first half of last
season.

3562
03:05:53,440 --> 03:05:59,080
And the most pivotal moment in
Virginia Tech under this era was

3563
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:02,080
when Kyron threw that first
touchdown against Pittsburgh and

3564
03:06:02,080 --> 03:06:04,000
he went down the field.
And you don't typically love

3565
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:07,720
this.
He talked to every single DB

3566
03:06:08,040 --> 03:06:10,280
line.
He called that shit.

3567
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:14,440
And it and it wasn't necessarily
about him, him doing that.

3568
03:06:14,760 --> 03:06:19,040
And and it was just necessarily
he was putting, he was exuding

3569
03:06:19,040 --> 03:06:22,200
the confidence that Virginia
Tech has not had for a long

3570
03:06:22,200 --> 03:06:23,840
time.
Because I remember when I went

3571
03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:27,040
into that game and I scanned my
ticket and I'm talking about

3572
03:06:27,040 --> 03:06:29,840
that game going into it, this
Pittsburgh game, I'm like, this

3573
03:06:29,840 --> 03:06:34,280
has an opportunity to be a
devastating night in Lane

3574
03:06:34,280 --> 03:06:36,600
Stadium.
If we go out here and we lose to

3575
03:06:36,600 --> 03:06:40,080
Pittsburgh and we're one in
three, one and four, like

3576
03:06:41,000 --> 03:06:43,920
everybody's in trouble.
That week of Twitter, that week

3577
03:06:43,920 --> 03:06:46,800
of in the athletic department
everywhere would have been a

3578
03:06:46,800 --> 03:06:50,160
disaster.
And his ability to come in as a

3579
03:06:50,160 --> 03:06:53,960
starter in that position and
exude so much confidence.

3580
03:06:53,960 --> 03:06:56,320
And we've all seen the video of
the Oklahoma State quarterback

3581
03:06:56,320 --> 03:06:58,760
when he got in the game and his
hands were shaking and he wasn't

3582
03:06:58,760 --> 03:07:01,360
ready for the moment.
He didn't have that at all.

3583
03:07:01,520 --> 03:07:02,920
And he was ready for that
moment.

3584
03:07:02,920 --> 03:07:06,360
He met that moment, he grew.
And he even had that moment

3585
03:07:06,360 --> 03:07:09,520
where he had the he had the
fumble sack situation where they

3586
03:07:09,520 --> 03:07:13,520
turned over and plus territory.
But he he didn't blink at all.

3587
03:07:13,640 --> 03:07:17,360
And I think, I think when
Virginia Tech exudes that

3588
03:07:17,360 --> 03:07:21,240
confidence, they are the team
that this backward is stupid.

3589
03:07:21,280 --> 03:07:24,600
My opinion, I think it's kind of
silly because you're never back.

3590
03:07:24,600 --> 03:07:27,560
You have to live up to it every
single week and every single

3591
03:07:27,560 --> 03:07:30,960
year it goes back to the there's
no, there's no earned

3592
03:07:30,960 --> 03:07:33,320
expectations and there's no
earned results.

3593
03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:37,440
So you're never back.
You are in it and Virginia Tech

3594
03:07:37,440 --> 03:07:39,720
is in it.
When they had damn, that was

3595
03:07:39,720 --> 03:07:41,400
pretty good.
I'll actually get myself on the

3596
03:07:41,400 --> 03:07:42,160
back.
You're never.

3597
03:07:42,280 --> 03:07:45,040
Back and.
When you got, when you're, when

3598
03:07:45,040 --> 03:07:46,960
you're in it, it's you're
exuding confidence.

3599
03:07:46,960 --> 03:07:48,480
You're playing meaningful
football in November.

3600
03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:51,640
That's that's my opinion on it.
Man, I'm I'm going to say this

3601
03:07:52,120 --> 03:07:54,000
Billy took a little bit of my
answer, but I'm just I'm going

3602
03:07:54,000 --> 03:07:58,080
to take a little bit further.
We will be back when we take

3603
03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:00,800
care of business and win games
we're supposed to, especially on

3604
03:08:00,800 --> 03:08:02,880
the road.
Virginia Tech's first three

3605
03:08:02,880 --> 03:08:04,640
years in the ACC they were Rd.
warriors.

3606
03:08:04,640 --> 03:08:07,040
David Till did a big article.
They were very reminiscing the

3607
03:08:07,040 --> 03:08:09,480
Florida State where they came in
ACC and O four.

3608
03:08:09,840 --> 03:08:12,400
They won every rogue in the
first three years in the ACC.

3609
03:08:12,400 --> 03:08:14,400
They were 16 and one on the
road.

3610
03:08:14,680 --> 03:08:18,000
They won a critical game against
Miami and O 4 to win the ACC

3611
03:08:18,000 --> 03:08:20,760
outrage.
They beat UNC that year at UNC,

3612
03:08:20,760 --> 03:08:26,000
Mike Emo ran for 204 yards.
They also won other games on the

3613
03:08:26,000 --> 03:08:28,560
road, including into a solid
Wake Forest team like they were

3614
03:08:28,560 --> 03:08:30,240
wrote.
They had another game that

3615
03:08:30,240 --> 03:08:33,280
following year in O 5, the
inaugural ACC Championship game,

3616
03:08:33,480 --> 03:08:36,040
when they played in front of a
sold out NC State crowd.

3617
03:08:36,320 --> 03:08:38,400
My cousin Marcus and those guys
went crazy.

3618
03:08:38,400 --> 03:08:40,360
If you remember, he threw the
touchdown and they went in the

3619
03:08:40,360 --> 03:08:41,600
end zone.
They posed and took the

3620
03:08:41,600 --> 03:08:43,520
pictures.
They had attitude.

3621
03:08:43,520 --> 03:08:45,640
People don't realize.
Again, just a historical

3622
03:08:45,640 --> 03:08:48,240
perspective.
The ACC did not want Tech in

3623
03:08:48,240 --> 03:08:50,120
there because we were known as
goons.

3624
03:08:50,440 --> 03:08:54,080
We were assholes.
Roniel Whitaker, Jimmy Williams.

3625
03:08:54,080 --> 03:08:56,480
We had an attitude.
We were very physical.

3626
03:08:56,480 --> 03:08:59,000
Pop in the Wake Forest game.
When Wake Forest won the ACC

3627
03:08:59,000 --> 03:09:01,000
that year, we were ranked and
they were ranked.

3628
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:03,600
We went down there and beat them
27 to six.

3629
03:09:03,960 --> 03:09:07,240
That's the hit.
When Aaron Ralph's pop dude, DV

3630
03:09:07,240 --> 03:09:09,240
picked up the ball, didn't
realize it was still alive, and

3631
03:09:09,240 --> 03:09:10,360
he kept running.
We scored.

3632
03:09:10,880 --> 03:09:13,720
We we smacked everybody.
We had a tough loss that year.

3633
03:09:13,720 --> 03:09:17,720
So subsequently Georgia Tech and
wait for us play for the ACC

3634
03:09:17,720 --> 03:09:19,240
that year.
But we had an attitude when we

3635
03:09:19,240 --> 03:09:21,880
were Rd.
Warriors, like we can't say we

3636
03:09:21,880 --> 03:09:24,920
back and then go to Vanderbilt
and we're going to the fourth

3637
03:09:24,920 --> 03:09:26,640
quarter.
Vanderbilt's up 20, Virginia

3638
03:09:26,640 --> 03:09:28,680
Tech 9.
If that shit's happening, I

3639
03:09:28,680 --> 03:09:31,080
don't want to hear that back
shit because I mean, at the end

3640
03:09:31,080 --> 03:09:33,920
of the day, the same people
saying we're back, we'll be in a

3641
03:09:33,920 --> 03:09:36,880
Twitter space with all of us
talking about man, probably got

3642
03:09:36,880 --> 03:09:39,400
to go, man, he got to go.
He got to that's what's going to

3643
03:09:39,400 --> 03:09:42,560
happen.
So Virginia Tech, that whole

3644
03:09:42,560 --> 03:09:44,600
we're back.
If we're if we're back, it's

3645
03:09:44,600 --> 03:09:48,160
because the brand is matching
the expectations.

3646
03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:51,960
One thing about us, we got the
nickname, which I hate, but I

3647
03:09:51,960 --> 03:09:55,400
get it, the chokies, because we
had expectations and we would be

3648
03:09:55,400 --> 03:09:58,640
in these big games or we would
be ranked top five, top ten and

3649
03:09:58,640 --> 03:10:01,200
we couldn't finish it.
That tough loss to Boston

3650
03:10:01,200 --> 03:10:03,840
College, the Matt Ryan, Matt
Ryan game.

3651
03:10:04,640 --> 03:10:07,320
I told people I did a radio show
every Thursday morning in my

3652
03:10:07,320 --> 03:10:10,440
morning segment.
I told Big Dog sports radio

3653
03:10:10,440 --> 03:10:14,280
Rick, I said Rick Watson, the
next step for me is I sent this

3654
03:10:14,280 --> 03:10:19,560
to tally on his Twitter space is
when pro starts getting those

3655
03:10:19,560 --> 03:10:23,120
Mount Rushmore recruits like
Beamer did, the Kevin Jones is

3656
03:10:23,120 --> 03:10:24,760
the Michael Vicks when you
start.

3657
03:10:24,760 --> 03:10:26,560
And I don't really want to use
Mount Rushmore because it's not

3658
03:10:26,560 --> 03:10:28,520
enough heads, but you know what
I mean, a game changer.

3659
03:10:28,880 --> 03:10:31,600
And I said in that Twitter
space, Yep, I'm going to call

3660
03:10:31,600 --> 03:10:34,120
it.
I said Kyron Jones looks like

3661
03:10:34,120 --> 03:10:36,480
that first recruit, right?
That's going to take the game to

3662
03:10:36,480 --> 03:10:38,880
the next level.
So you're you know, one thing

3663
03:10:38,880 --> 03:10:41,320
I've realized that over the
decades that Virginia Tech was

3664
03:10:41,320 --> 03:10:44,520
relevant is that, like Billy
said, we were playing meaningful

3665
03:10:44,520 --> 03:10:48,160
ball in November.
We also had players that were

3666
03:10:48,160 --> 03:10:49,640
very physical, that had
attitudes.

3667
03:10:49,640 --> 03:10:52,440
They're all tapped, those guys,
you know, Whyatella, you know,

3668
03:10:52,440 --> 03:10:55,040
just taking people down field
and, you know, even though

3669
03:10:55,040 --> 03:10:56,640
sometimes he's a bit extra, I
loved it.

3670
03:10:56,640 --> 03:10:59,760
We had an attitude.
Virginia Tech just used to be

3671
03:10:59,760 --> 03:11:03,920
very tough and we won games on
the road because we came in your

3672
03:11:03,920 --> 03:11:06,960
house and we took it to you.
Our fans always showed up and we

3673
03:11:06,960 --> 03:11:10,320
used to match that energy.
So like Vanderbilt and Rutgers

3674
03:11:10,320 --> 03:11:12,520
in those games.
I personally think Rutgers.

3675
03:11:12,800 --> 03:11:14,920
I was watching the segment
before I jumped on everybody,

3676
03:11:14,920 --> 03:11:17,440
like Rutgers this, Rutgers that.
If Virginia Tech plays that

3677
03:11:17,440 --> 03:11:19,720
game, they should beat Rutgers
by three scores.

3678
03:11:21,040 --> 03:11:23,440
I don't know why this height.
Did y'all see what Rutgers did?

3679
03:11:23,640 --> 03:11:26,040
Rutgers beat us for throwing
only 35 yards last year.

3680
03:11:26,040 --> 03:11:27,200
You know what happened against
Rutgers?

3681
03:11:27,640 --> 03:11:31,120
We did not match.
Their energy on the O line and D

3682
03:11:31,120 --> 03:11:32,360
line.
We didn't match.

3683
03:11:32,360 --> 03:11:33,960
It wasn't like they did anything
special.

3684
03:11:34,360 --> 03:11:36,720
If we start them on 4th and one,
we get the ball back, but our

3685
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:40,800
linebackers got they got crushed
and that's the part about making

3686
03:11:40,800 --> 03:11:42,360
the play.
I don't want to name every

3687
03:11:42,360 --> 03:11:45,480
household lineback in Virginia
Tech football history, but when

3688
03:11:45,480 --> 03:11:48,520
you hear about Virginia Tech
being back and the attitude, the

3689
03:11:48,520 --> 03:11:52,200
chip, it was a mindset they had.
It didn't matter when you lost

3690
03:11:52,200 --> 03:11:54,720
these three players.
The next three players came in

3691
03:11:54,720 --> 03:11:56,440
that Gator Bowl.
When I mentioned Jimmy Williams,

3692
03:11:56,720 --> 03:11:58,880
he got suspended because he
pushed the referee.

3693
03:11:59,160 --> 03:12:01,440
What people don't realize is
Brandon Flowers and Eric Green

3694
03:12:01,440 --> 03:12:03,640
held it down that game.
They, you know, 'cause you

3695
03:12:03,640 --> 03:12:05,440
didn't miss a beat when Jimmy
Williams went out.

3696
03:12:06,080 --> 03:12:08,600
And that's the part about depth
and attitude and the chip on

3697
03:12:08,600 --> 03:12:12,000
your shoulders.
I, I, I, I think like the

3698
03:12:12,000 --> 03:12:13,840
statement I said about Rutgers.
That sounds crazy.

3699
03:12:13,840 --> 03:12:15,520
It's not in the, I'm not
thinking it's the Rutgers of

3700
03:12:15,520 --> 03:12:17,400
old.
I'm just saying, like, to me,

3701
03:12:17,400 --> 03:12:19,560
it's the same thing with OD.
If we go down and play them on

3702
03:12:19,560 --> 03:12:23,280
my birthday and we're in a
dogfight in the third quarter, I

3703
03:12:23,280 --> 03:12:26,800
got a lot of questions.
I got a lot of questions.

3704
03:12:26,960 --> 03:12:28,600
I'm going to have some serious
concerns.

3705
03:12:28,880 --> 03:12:30,800
I might not even get into
Twitter Space if we struggling

3706
03:12:30,800 --> 03:12:33,960
with them because it's it's not
about disrespecting them.

3707
03:12:33,960 --> 03:12:37,360
It's just where we should be.
The, the one thing I'll say

3708
03:12:37,360 --> 03:12:42,080
about Rutgers is the area that I
don't want to say it concerns

3709
03:12:42,080 --> 03:12:46,520
me, but the area that I'm most
interested in is two things.

3710
03:12:46,640 --> 03:12:49,920
Greg Schiano is a ball coach.
He is a fantastic ball coach.

3711
03:12:49,920 --> 03:12:50,840
He's going to have a great
scheme.

3712
03:12:50,840 --> 03:12:53,880
When you come into come into
that game and #2 we're going to

3713
03:12:53,880 --> 03:12:56,880
learn so much about our team
because what I can hang my hat

3714
03:12:56,880 --> 03:12:59,600
on with Rutgers is they're going
to compete up front.

3715
03:12:59,720 --> 03:13:02,360
If you go back and you turn the
film on, when they played Ohio

3716
03:13:02,360 --> 03:13:05,120
State, I believe this game was
at Rutgers, but they played Ohio

3717
03:13:05,120 --> 03:13:06,400
State.
They were in that ball game up

3718
03:13:06,400 --> 03:13:09,280
until the fourth quarter.
So I agree with you, Dwight, if

3719
03:13:09,280 --> 03:13:13,240
we play our game and play up to
our potential, we should win

3720
03:13:13,240 --> 03:13:15,560
almost if not every single game
on our schedule.

3721
03:13:15,800 --> 03:13:17,680
Like that is just that is just
the truth.

3722
03:13:17,680 --> 03:13:19,840
That is not how college football
usually pans out.

3723
03:13:20,720 --> 03:13:22,600
But I, I agree with everything
that you said.

3724
03:13:22,600 --> 03:13:26,680
It is that it is that attitude
and that expectation that we're

3725
03:13:26,680 --> 03:13:28,760
not just coming to show up to
win the game.

3726
03:13:28,760 --> 03:13:31,360
We're coming here to wear your
ass out for four quarters.

3727
03:13:31,480 --> 03:13:34,200
A physical brand of football
that nobody wants to play

3728
03:13:34,200 --> 03:13:38,120
against with you and is rare,
extremely rare in the twenty 20s

3729
03:13:38,120 --> 03:13:39,880
and 20 tens.
Not a lot of teams do that

3730
03:13:39,880 --> 03:13:41,600
anymore.
No, and I'll say this with the

3731
03:13:41,600 --> 03:13:43,640
ruckus thing.
The reason I'm more confident

3732
03:13:43,640 --> 03:13:45,600
against Rutgers is we have them
at home.

3733
03:13:45,880 --> 03:13:49,520
The one thing and and Curtis and
Brian and Tally talk about this

3734
03:13:49,520 --> 03:13:52,640
last year on their part.
We finally got back to taking

3735
03:13:52,640 --> 03:13:55,600
care minus the NC State loss and
the Purdue loss where we played

3736
03:13:55,600 --> 03:13:58,000
six hours later.
We finally look like Virginia

3737
03:13:58,000 --> 03:13:59,800
Tech of the old at home in Lane
State.

3738
03:13:59,960 --> 03:14:02,320
We we, we, we know what to do at
Lane.

3739
03:14:02,320 --> 03:14:05,600
So Rutgers is coming to Lane
where I feel really good.

3740
03:14:05,600 --> 03:14:07,960
If we had to go up there again
because they, they were like, I

3741
03:14:07,960 --> 03:14:11,360
believe it was a sold out crowd.
They had the the the Red Rocket,

3742
03:14:12,280 --> 03:14:15,080
Rutgers has had has a talent.
You're right about coach Craig.

3743
03:14:15,080 --> 03:14:19,160
But I just feel like when you
are a ball control offense and

3744
03:14:19,160 --> 03:14:21,480
you know they're going to run it
on 3rd and five and you know, if

3745
03:14:21,480 --> 03:14:23,560
you have the D line and
linebackers that JC talked

3746
03:14:23,560 --> 03:14:27,280
about, we got to be able to take
those teams and get a block,

3747
03:14:27,280 --> 03:14:29,520
punt or get a turnover fumble
and get up.

3748
03:14:29,560 --> 03:14:31,240
You know, it's it's not always
going to be on the offense.

3749
03:14:31,240 --> 03:14:34,120
But I feel like like with
Shelton talked about the weapons

3750
03:14:34,120 --> 03:14:36,440
we have on offense, we didn't
use that.

3751
03:14:36,440 --> 03:14:38,200
We didn't use them against
Rutgers last year.

3752
03:14:38,200 --> 03:14:40,520
We were out there just kind of
running Chiron all over the

3753
03:14:40,520 --> 03:14:42,640
place anyway.
We'll see.

3754
03:14:42,640 --> 03:14:43,640
That's the beauty of this,
right?

3755
03:14:43,640 --> 03:14:45,680
We'll see in about what, a few
more weeks?

3756
03:14:46,600 --> 03:14:48,840
More weeks we'll.
Get to see what they do.

3757
03:14:49,160 --> 03:14:51,640
I'm excited.
I'm excited that that's what's

3758
03:14:51,640 --> 03:14:55,400
when I kind of circled because
to Billy's point, you're going

3759
03:14:55,400 --> 03:14:58,280
to get four quarters with
Rutgers.

3760
03:14:58,560 --> 03:15:00,200
They're they're, they're not
going to back down.

3761
03:15:00,200 --> 03:15:01,600
They're they're going to be well
coached.

3762
03:15:01,600 --> 03:15:05,240
They're going to be prepared and
you're going to have to go out

3763
03:15:05,240 --> 03:15:07,640
there and earn it.
Now, I think if you if you just

3764
03:15:07,640 --> 03:15:13,160
look at the guys, I think we got
the guys and to Dwight's point,

3765
03:15:13,440 --> 03:15:18,240
you got the lane, lane advantage
and and prize shown that he can

3766
03:15:18,240 --> 03:15:21,920
take care of home.
So it's that's going to be an

3767
03:15:21,920 --> 03:15:23,840
interesting game.
And I think he kind of sets up

3768
03:15:23,840 --> 03:15:27,080
that nightmare run that we have
with Miami on the road and then

3769
03:15:27,080 --> 03:15:30,560
going out West of Stanford.
So it's going to be interesting

3770
03:15:30,560 --> 03:15:33,640
to see how we play in that game
and how that sets the tone for

3771
03:15:33,640 --> 03:15:36,600
those next two as well.
I think, I think Rutgers is.

3772
03:15:37,080 --> 03:15:38,000
The is the same.
Sorry, Billy.

3773
03:15:38,000 --> 03:15:38,920
I was going to say I looked it
up.

3774
03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:41,120
Last year, Rutgers was seven to
six like us.

3775
03:15:41,120 --> 03:15:42,720
They were one in four on the
road.

3776
03:15:43,040 --> 03:15:45,400
That's why I said that.
One in four on the road.

3777
03:15:45,400 --> 03:15:47,800
That's why I said that.
Yeah, I think, I think Rutgers

3778
03:15:47,800 --> 03:15:51,760
also is a has a little bit of a
problem with an unfortunate name

3779
03:15:51,960 --> 03:15:54,880
because if if you're not nobody
on this call, but a lot of

3780
03:15:54,880 --> 03:15:57,560
people are like we're playing
Rutgers Week 3 at home.

3781
03:15:57,560 --> 03:16:00,160
Is Rutgers has that name that
kind of rolls off for your

3782
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:02,160
tongue where you're like
Rutgers, who is Rutgers.

3783
03:16:02,160 --> 03:16:04,200
I'm just telling you, Rutgers
coach Puck Greg Schiano, they

3784
03:16:04,200 --> 03:16:06,440
have a good defensive line, a
good offensive line.

3785
03:16:07,000 --> 03:16:10,720
I'll be honest, I would feel a
lot worse about this game if

3786
03:16:10,720 --> 03:16:11,920
Winset was still the
quarterback.

3787
03:16:11,920 --> 03:16:15,040
You're damn right if Winset was
still their quarterback would

3788
03:16:15,040 --> 03:16:16,480
not feel as good.
Would we?

3789
03:16:16,480 --> 03:16:18,640
I mean, he couldn't, he couldn't
hit the broad side of a barn if

3790
03:16:18,640 --> 03:16:19,240
he.
Was.

3791
03:16:20,440 --> 03:16:24,400
Running all over.
Him and that him and.

3792
03:16:25,160 --> 03:16:29,800
I'll, I'll take and I'll take
Dorian out there covering those

3793
03:16:30,000 --> 03:16:32,920
those wide receivers against
whatever wimps that could do on

3794
03:16:32,920 --> 03:16:36,360
3rd down and long and just run
for scrambling for first downs.

3795
03:16:36,360 --> 03:16:38,920
He kept running.
He kept running on us, that's

3796
03:16:38,920 --> 03:16:42,320
what I'm saying.
They went they went 27 for 220

3797
03:16:42,560 --> 03:16:46,520
those two last year, they both
broke 100 in that game, in that

3798
03:16:46,520 --> 03:16:48,400
game.
And the one the big back was the

3799
03:16:48,400 --> 03:16:51,480
4th and one Dwight that you
basically said we got wiped out.

3800
03:16:51,800 --> 03:16:54,040
But I'm I'm, I'm we're going to
wrap it up here.

3801
03:16:54,440 --> 03:16:56,560
But you know, we kept saying
when are we back?

3802
03:16:56,560 --> 03:16:58,720
When are we back?
We're going to be back.

3803
03:16:58,840 --> 03:17:01,640
If it's a year from now is it's
the expectation.

3804
03:17:02,440 --> 03:17:04,680
It's that expectation we want
every year we want.

3805
03:17:05,080 --> 03:17:07,560
You said it, You gave a great
monologue earlier.

3806
03:17:07,840 --> 03:17:10,400
We want to be good.
We want that expectation.

3807
03:17:10,400 --> 03:17:13,360
We want to win every year.
And if that's when it's going to

3808
03:17:13,360 --> 03:17:17,960
become, that's what it was.
I'm a fan of 29 years now.

3809
03:17:18,080 --> 03:17:18,960
Jesus Christ.
I'm old.

3810
03:17:19,600 --> 03:17:22,600
Not as old as Dwight, but still
not as old as Dwight.

3811
03:17:24,760 --> 03:17:27,240
You got to get it.
But for but for the better part

3812
03:17:27,240 --> 03:17:31,720
of my life for 20 years, it was
we're a top ten team.

3813
03:17:31,960 --> 03:17:33,760
We can go make a national title
run.

3814
03:17:33,760 --> 03:17:35,720
We can win the ACC, we can win
the biggies.

3815
03:17:35,720 --> 03:17:39,680
We can do these things.
When you start saying that

3816
03:17:39,680 --> 03:17:43,040
again, every time you think of
Virginia Tech football, that's

3817
03:17:43,040 --> 03:17:45,040
when you're back.
Because it's no wonder what,

3818
03:17:45,040 --> 03:17:46,600
what can we do this year?
Snow?

3819
03:17:46,800 --> 03:17:48,480
This is what we're going to do
this year.

3820
03:17:48,720 --> 03:17:52,240
That's, that's what I was going
to say with Virginia Tech's back

3821
03:17:52,920 --> 03:17:57,240
when the six of us have to sit
here and shut up about, all

3822
03:17:57,240 --> 03:17:59,920
right, which game on his
schedule is going to cause us a

3823
03:17:59,920 --> 03:18:03,000
problem?
Six of us are sitting here

3824
03:18:03,000 --> 03:18:05,200
going, all right, who the hell
is after that?

3825
03:18:05,200 --> 03:18:08,120
Because we really don't care.
We don't care who we're going to

3826
03:18:08,120 --> 03:18:09,400
go after.
Yep.

3827
03:18:09,400 --> 03:18:14,960
Who's next?
Well, Dwight, Billy, Robbie, we

3828
03:18:14,960 --> 03:18:16,920
really appreciate y'all joining
us and that.

3829
03:18:16,920 --> 03:18:18,800
Is thank you guys, man.
Thank you.

3830
03:18:18,800 --> 03:18:20,760
This is this is a great
production every year.

3831
03:18:20,840 --> 03:18:22,520
You guys do a great job,
seriously.

3832
03:18:22,840 --> 03:18:29,600
And to everybody here, to
Dwight, Billy Ray, Robbie, Pete

3833
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:32,760
B, Danny notes Mike McDaniels.
Even he couldn't be with us

3834
03:18:32,760 --> 03:18:35,800
tonight.
David Cunningham, Jeremy, Dan

3835
03:18:35,840 --> 03:18:40,240
Grayson, Don V, my fellow
compadres here, Brian Talley,

3836
03:18:40,600 --> 03:18:43,120
y'all we, we put Sheldon the
bed, he says, y'all, I'm done,

3837
03:18:43,360 --> 03:18:46,880
I'm done.
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3840
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If you're down in the North, if

3841
03:18:57,120 --> 03:18:59,680
you're down in North Carolina
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3842
03:18:59,680 --> 03:19:02,800
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3843
03:19:02,960 --> 03:19:05,880
It may not be real pretty.
Well, yeah, that's we'll give.

3844
03:19:06,160 --> 03:19:08,480
It all we got baby.
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3845
03:19:08,480 --> 03:19:10,640
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