This week we welcome back our friend and Hokie content creator Grayson Wimbish to help us predict the Hokies 2023 record. We also discuss the ESPN article by Andrea Adelson and which Hokie players will play in a key role for the 2023 season. Make sure when you head to Blacksburg for a game this fall that you head to Lot 1 and get your #RowdyforRobbie wristband to support testicular cancer research.

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Before we kick off tonight's
episode, we wanted to send our

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sincerest thoughts, prayers, and
condolences to Caleb Farley and

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his family, Hokie Nation.
Please join us in lifting up

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Caleb in the coming days as he
processes this tragedy.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast along with my

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partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan
Talley, and Shelton Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson in this
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I'll say it again.
I cannot wait to get there just

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a few weeks from now.
How's everybody doing tonight,

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boys?
Rocking and rolling, man.

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Rocking and rolling.
It's another Tuesday and we're

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back.
Live football's here.

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Football.
Time to go week 0.

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And wait.
Week 0, we've got games on

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Saturday.
Whether you think they're worth

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watching, I think it's of
everyone's own discretion, but

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there are games on Saturday.
And as usual, we sit two weeks

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out from roughly 2 weeks out
from the Hokies kicking off, and

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tonight we are going to have our
big season preview episode.

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We're going to be looking at our
predictions, We're going to be

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taking a look at all the games.
We're going to be also breaking

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down what we feel like are three
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And then we've got to address
something right boys?

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We got to address the article
that came out last Friday from

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Andrea Adelson at ESPN.
Been a quiet offseason in

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Blacksburg until that happened.
You know, last week I had

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mentioned something there.
There hadn't been any articles

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of the Turkey bacon persuasion.
And sure is shit.

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Yeah.
Couple days later, this thing

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hits the feed.
I'm like, well, there we are.

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That's the way it goes, man.
But Brian, before we get into

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all that, we got a couple other
things we're going to uncover.

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And tonight we are going to be
joined by a special guest.

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Our friend Grayson Wimbush is
now joining us tonight.

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And he's got a little something
he wants to bring to the

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forefront.
Grayson, how you doing this

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evening, man?
I'm doing great.

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Curtis, how you doing?
Thank you for having me again.

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It's great to be back pretty
much a week later.

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I mean, it's always good to have
you man your takes, you know,

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just talking with you before we
got in here, It's always fun

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talking it really honest to God
is.

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But we know you've got something
very near and dear to your heart

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that we're gonna, we're gonna
shoot right out the gate.

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So go ahead and tell us what you
got.

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Yeah, absolutely.
So I do.

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I do want to take this time to
tell y'all I I started this

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offseason a campaign.
It's called Rowdy for Robbie.

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It goes to benefit the
Testicular Cancer Awareness

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Foundation started by Kim Jones
and her husband after their son

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Jordan passed away from
testicular cancer.

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My buddy Robbie Armbrister die
hard as of a hokey as you could

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possibly get.
And and just he passed away last

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September.
As a result of testicular

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cancer.
And so I I started this to raise

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awareness, to raise education.
The TCAF, they funnel money into

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areas where they educate men at
the college level about the

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illness.
And this fall in Lot 1, we're

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going to be selling these
wristbands.

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Where's my camera?
It's over there that says Rowdy

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for Robbie and they're going to
be 7 bucks.

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But I made a little video kind
of explaining all of this.

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So Brian, hit it Whenever you're
ready, man.

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Thank you.
Hey friends, family, hokey fans.

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My name is Grayson Windish and
around this time of year I would

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normally be putting out a
Virginia Tech football hype

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trailer, but instead I decided
this year.

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I want to take this time to tell
you about my very good friend

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Robbie Armbrister.
My family met Robbie Armbrister

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in the fall of 2015 in Lane
Stadium in Blacksburg, VA, in

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Section 10 as a part of the 2015
reseeding for the year.

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And upon seeing him for the
first time, we were immediately

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drawn to and amused by this very
rowdy, rambunctious hokey

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yelling at the ref from missing
a pass interference call as the

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season went on.
He would always be the only one

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standing up the entire time in
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Mind you, this is a section
where there's a lot of old

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alumni who love to sit down for
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games, but he was never afraid
to tell someone telling him to

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sit down hey, when I'm in Lane
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I'm standing up to cheer on my
team.

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I don't know about you, but
that's how I roll.

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Robbie always held the attitude
that despite a 21 point deficit,

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the Hokies would find a way to
pick up the pieces, come back

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and leave Lane Stadium with a
win.

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As time went on and more
football seasons past, my

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brothers, my mother and father
and I always look forward to

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seeing Robbie at football games.
We became friends on social

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media.
We always shook each other's

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hands prior to kick off, talk to
each other about the thoughts of

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the day's football contest, and
got ready to cheer on Virginia

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Tech through the wins and
losses.

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Robbie would turn around and
yell, we're going to do it when

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this boys, we're going to do it.
Whether or not that actually

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happened, Robbie always believed
that the 12th man could pull the

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Hokies to a victory.
One of my favorite memories of

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Robbie was watching him lose his
voice in real time at the six

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overtime UNC game in 2019.
Shoulder to shoulder, we watched

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as Quincy Patterson rushed for
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conversion.
And I, like many other hokey

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fans, will never, ever forget
that evening as long as I live,

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whether it was the Tar Heels in
North Carolina, the Miami

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Hurricanes, or somewhere in
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Robbie Armbrister became a
staple piece in my family's game

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day experience and I always
looked forward to seeing my

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friend whenever I would come
home to Blacksburg from Los

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Angeles.
In March of 2022, I found out

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that Robbie was diagnosed with
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When I learned this, I
immediately thought to myself,

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if there's one person I know who
would smile in the face of his

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illness, it would be my friend
Robbie.

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I was confident as ever that he
would fight with the courage and

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the same positive attitude that
he was always known and loved

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for.
In September of last year, I

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traveled home to Blacksburg from
LA to watch Virginia Tech take

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on the Boston College Eagles,
and as I walked up the ramp into

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Section 10A, familiar face
stopped me as I started the

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trick up to my seats.
It was Robbie and as one can

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imagine, I was ecstatic to see
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I was able to give him a big hug
and tell him how much he meant

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to my family and I.
And little did I know that this

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moment would be the last moment
I would ever see Robbie in the

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same place that our friendship
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Less than three weeks later, on
September 27th, 2022, Robbie

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Armbrister passed away at the
age of 31 due to complications

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from testicular cancer over the
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I've had the honor and the
privilege to get to know

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Robbie's parents along with some
of his closest friends, and talk

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to them about how much their son
and their friend meant to my

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family and so many others.
With the blessing of Robbie's

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family, I've decided to start
Rowdy for Robbie, a campaign to

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raise awareness for testicular
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This fall.
These wristbands will be for

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sale in Lot 1.
On several home game days

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throughout the season, they're
going to be $7.00 cash for Venmo

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in honor of Robbie's favorite
football player to play at

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Virginia Tech, Michael Vick, and
all the proceeds will go to the

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Testicular Cancer Awareness
Foundation in an effort to

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educate young men at the
collegiate level about the

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illness.
More details will be released on

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exactly where they're going to
be able to be purchased in the

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coming weeks.
So with this in mind, I do want

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to take this time to turn it
over to Robbie's father, Gary

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Armbrister.
Was going to tell you a little

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bit more about Robbie's Memorial
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Thank you, Grayson, and thanks
for sponsoring the Rowdy for

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Robbie campaign benefiting
testicular cancer awareness.

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Our son Robbie became a hokey at
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He was influenced by his
granddad, armbrister, me and

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aunt, 2 uncles, his brother and
a first cousin who all attended

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Virginia Tech.
On the Hokie Inner Sandman and

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Let's Go Hokie Scales, Robbie
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Anyone seeing and hearing Robbie
knew he was a true Hokie 1.

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Characteristic prevalent and
almost every story was his

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ability to communicate with
absolutely everyone he

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encountered.
Robbie never met a stranger,

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only made new friends who
instantly became part of our

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family.
He wanted to know everyone's

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story, and in each story he
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bound that person to him and to
his family.

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Robbie exemplified the quote,
Never looked down on someone

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unless you're helping them up.
Through all his pursuits, Robbie

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was a free spirit, uninhibited
and carefree, yet intentional

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and bringing people together.
Through his joyful personality,

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infectious smile and endearing
laugh in memory of Robbie's

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giving and caring spirit and to
carry on his legacy, my wife

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Lisa, Robbie's brother Wes, and
I founded the Robbie Armbrister

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Memorial Family Services Fund
last fall following his passing.

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Robbie's Memorial Fund is a
component fund of the Community

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Foundation of the New River
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Based in Christiansburg, VA, the
primary purpose of Robbie's Fund

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is to support children, youth,
young adults and young families

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with children under the age of
25 that are in crisis or need a

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hand up and are located
principally in the Virginia

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counties of Henry and Width, the
two counties where Robbie spent

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most of his short life and where
he called home.

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For more information about how
you can give to the Robbie

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Armbrister Memorial Fund, please
visit www.cfnrv.org or please

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visit www.celebraterobbie.love.
We hope you will consider a

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generous donation to Robbie's
fund and also.

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Don't forget to buy you Rowdy
for Robbie wristband and let's

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go Hokies back to you Grayson.
And thanks again for all you're

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doing.
Thank you for that, Gary.

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It goes without saying that my
friend Robbie Armbrister truly

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embodied in every way what it
meant to be in Virginia Tech.

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Hokie.
He was humble in defeat and he

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was rowdy as ever in victory.
And while he is, no.

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Longer with us here on Earth.
His spirit lives on in every

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single Virginia Tech fan across
Hokie Nation, so with the 2023

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football season upon us, I plan
on honoring my friend this year,

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and always by joining the fight
against testicular cancer and

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always being rowdy for Robbie Go
Hokies.

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Grayson, what a great tribute,
definitely, to Robbie there.

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Sorry man, that that that that
makes you just think a lot more

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about everything in your life,
so.

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Great tribute.
I love what you're doing in

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this.
And let's educate us a little

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bit more.
I put the CFN rv.org website in

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all the comments here, so if you
folks want to take a look at

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that while you're listening,
please do so.

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But we're in Lot 1.
Can we go buy these things when

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we all head down this year?
Yes.

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So the exact spot number we're
going to drop next week, but

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it's it's right now we're we're
trying to find a time slot.

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I am not coming home for any
Virginia Tech football game this

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season, so I will not physically
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I wish I could be, but I cannot.
So it's going to be my parents

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and then Mr. And Missus
Armbrister, they're going to be

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there hanging out.
There's going to be a Venmo tab

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with Rowdy for Robbie on it.
And so we get we've got an

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account set up and then we're
also going to take, we're going

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to accept cash as well.
And literally every single dime

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of this, like I said, is going
to TCAF.

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Testicular Cancer Awareness
Foundation in an effort to

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educate men at the college level
about testicular cancer, how how

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to properly check themselves.
I know when I was in college,

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being a young man like you kind
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again that you're invincible and
you just don't take these things

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maybe as seriously as you
should.

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And I kind of wish back then
even someone had told me about

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this and or educated me on it.
But I, Robbie, was the man,

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y'all would have loved him, had
a smile that could brighten up

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any room.
And I just know that I know that

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he's going to love this.
So shout into a great friend and

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a great hokey.
Yeah, just just seeing the

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photos and him and everybody
talk about it sounds like he had

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a huge personality, fun to be
around and and and brought his

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own juice everywhere he went.
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I mean, like, I'll just never,
ever forget.

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Watching that six overtime game
and every time the overtimes

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would switch back and forth,
just hands on his head, like

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can't believe we're doing this
right now.

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Can't believe we're doing this
right now.

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It's like, but he would look
back up to my family is like

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we're.
Still here?

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Still here?
But, and then, like I said in

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the video, you know, when I got
to see him last year at Boston

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College, I'm just, I'm glad I
was able to have that

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interaction.
I didn't even think he was in

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town, but but I.
Love is folks is folks are great

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people.
They'll be at a few games this

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fall and our goal is to get his
picture in the Rowdy for Robbie

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Banner on the Jumbotron at Lane
Stadium for a game.

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We are actively working on that.
So if anyone has anyone who

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might be able to help with that,
I'm working to pull some

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strings.
But if anyone knows anyone see

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if we can make that happen?
Sounds awesome.

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Awesome.
I'm sure there is someone out

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there between all the people you
have made friends with over all

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these years.
Grayson, that it will happen and

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Grayson will.
I'll ask this before we go to

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the next thing.
Please send us text, DM,

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whatever, just letting us know
where it's going to be week to

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week.
We will make sure every week we

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will say where that is.
I really hope they're at the

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Purdue game because all four of
these guys will walk there.

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We will find it.
We will.

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I know author of my 7:00.
Books.

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Oh yeah.
Absolutely.

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And yeah, that was like 7.
He loved Michael Vick.

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That was his favorite player,
but he was also a nasty soccer

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player and he wore 7.
I found this out from his dad as

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well.
So some MV7 inspiration there.

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A man after my own heart.
Shout out to Michael Vick.

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Again, look for that out at
Wayne Stadium in Lot 1 rowdy for

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Robbie Grayson.
You're staying with us tonight

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because you're going to preview
just like we are.

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But before we actually get to,
we'll go to the article.

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But, Mr. Siegel, I'm going to
give you the floor.

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Man.
Some news was broken this week

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that I know you have to discuss
about your former head coach

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down in the city.
Yeah, I wanted to say a big, big

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time.
Congratulations to my former

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head coach at Hampden City,
Marty Marty Favret.

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He announced this week that he
will be retiring at the end of

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the 2023 season.
You know this.

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This is a big, big announcement
that he has been there since

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1999.
Five ODAC championships in that

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time, six division, three
football championship playoff

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appearances and 18 of the 23
seasons he's coached so far.

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He's had a 500 or better record.
During my time there, we lost

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three games.
This guy is a legend at Hampden,

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Sydney.
It's it's not really any sort of

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question about the the all time
GOAT in terms of football head

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coaches at hand and Sydney Marty
Favret stands alone and just

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want to say congratulations and
we'll we'll definitely be

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thinking about you this year and
I can I know right now you know

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thinking about you know practice
today he definitely said run it

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again probably at least 10 times
and he probably said we look

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like a fucking clown show
another five or six.

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So I'm I'm excited to see what
the, what the outcome is going

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to be for this team in this
final season.

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But Congrats Coach and thank you
for everything.

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Very well said, very well, said
Siegel.

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And something that Y'all ever
want to pick Siegel's brain when

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we're down in Blacksburg on
football in general concepts

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they were running 20 years ago
for at the D3 level.

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As things that have leaked into
D1 level games, I can remember

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going watching it and I remember
that wasn't what I was seeing

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on.
My screen when I went back to

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Longwood.
Like, what is this 15 years

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later?
It's a commonality place to see

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some of the stuff y'all were
doing back then and and and

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coming from a like a power eye
formation you know just straight

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run and some some deep shots in
high school and then going to a

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pretty innovative offense in
college was was a big step and

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but I mean I loved every second
of it and you know it it took

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the ODAC 15 to 20 years to catch
up to what Marty was doing back

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in 99 and 2000 So that that that
that tells you a whole lot right

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there.
You said Hampton Sydney, right?

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Yeah, yeah.
It's all all male College it is,

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yeah.
Well, hell, he didn't have much

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to get you motivated and go win,
you know, go win.

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We'll let you go talk to the
girls.

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We need to get you down there on
the weekend and you'll you'll

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see a little bit of a whole
situation.

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Longwood College.
That's where all the girls are.

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They come in from everywhere
long.

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When they bust them in from
islands, they bust them in from

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sweet bride, they bust them in
from everywhere.

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Man, we went to College in the
early 1900s.

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You know, it wasn't no, no,
Tinder and Twitter and all that.

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It was like you are here to play
football and if you win, we may

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let you look at a woman.
I will say when I first got

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there, we were still doing 3
days, man.

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So it was a it was a full day of
football.

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It was a full day of football.
That's awesome though, man.

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Congratulations to your coach on
successful career.

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I'm sure he's touched a lot of
lot of young men and.

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He's he's going to get there
with his grand grandkids now and

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get to spend a lot more time
with them going forward.

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Awesome.
All right.

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Congrats to him.
Well, let's flip it, boys.

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Let's start talking some hokey
ball.

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We got a lot of things to cover
tonight.

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But before we start anything
off, we've got to talk about the

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article dropped last Friday,
7:00 AM sharp by Andrea Adelson

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at ESPN.
And I'm going to just open the

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floor.
What shocked?

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Y'all what didn't?
Let me lead off here.

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I wasn't, I wasn't shocked by a
lot of what I saw.

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I'll tell you what I was shocked
about.

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I think some of the details of
kind of the bigger parts of the

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story.
So like hearing about some of

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the the air conditioning
situations that were going on

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with players that they were
getting on campus, hearing some

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of the.
Details of the internal

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kerfuffles between John Belin
and Justin Fuente.

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Some of some of the little the
little angles here and there and

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that that's what shocked me.
Some of the little details, the

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big picture of what the article
said and kind of what was going

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on.
I wasn't really that shocked

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because I mean we we, we've
talked about it before in

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various different venues of of.
You know it's not just a on the

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field problem.
There's a lot going on off the

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field from an administrative
standpoint, from an

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organizational standpoint that
that we need to improve, that's

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getting held back in some ways.
I think we kind of have a good

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idea of of where that may may
lie at this point.

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So that that's my take.
Like I said, I'm not super

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shocked, but definitely it's
it's good to kind of, you know.

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Color in some of the some of the
gaps there for sure.

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I want to tell you the one thing
I was like, I I we had heard so

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many of these stories.
The only thing that kind of

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shocked me was the whole thing
about the equipment.

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Like they needed to basically a
coaches to buy them gloves.

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I'm assuming there were some
padding, there were some other

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things.
And it's like it's a Division

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One football program.
That shit should not be

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happening.
Clearly now things have been

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self corrected, things are going
in the right direction, but for

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the longest time Tally is before
you joined us.

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We said mom and pop.
We were running shit like a mom

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and pop.
And now clearly things have

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really shifted really in the
last probably three years more

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than anything.
But that's the one thing that

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did shock me.
Tally, what do you think?

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You're kind of the same like you
say it is.

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You want to be big time
football, but you're running it

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like a like a mom and pop.
I mean, you can't do that.

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You know, talking about redoing
a locker room and keeping the

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same weights, weights, way the
same, you know, having stuff

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like that come out.
It's funny to me because I'm a

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goofball, but it's just like
people with money know how to

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keep their money.
I guess you know what I'm

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saying?
But you got to spend money.

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You got to spend money to to to
make money, essentially.

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So.
Grayson Well, I'm saying

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Grayson's got that in his
tagline there.

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I just thought that was so
funny.

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Well, yeah, we'll we can talk
about that later, I guess.

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But remember last week,
gentlemen, on on the preview

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panel I gave our offseason.
An A -.

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I think it got bumped down.
Plus with this with this

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article, I, you know, here's my
thing, I don't think anything

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like this article surprises me
anymore.

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But in case maybe the only thing
that does, it's just timing of

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it.
Like you know everything was

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going so great and then all of a
sudden it's bomb like just the

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article comes out of nowhere.
So I try and not waste.

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Too much headspace thinking
about it, you know?

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Or the former regime,
especially.

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They're gone.
We've torn them up down sideways

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across the board and Coach Prize
the guy now.

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So I hope you should be focused
on that.

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There you go.
Show them what you got.

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Yeah, a few things to say about
this.

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First of all, I was not shocked
at anything the article, mainly

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because I had talked to a lot of
people that confirmed pretty

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much everything that was said in
there, to reiterate the point

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about BT being run like a mom
and pop show.

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A few things.
We were the last program in

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America, the last Power 5
football program to have a

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huddle account for perspective.
That is like a baseball team not

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having a radar gun to evaluate
pitchers in 2019.

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In 2019, we had two full time
recruiting staffers.

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By some metrics, our support
staff was the worst in the Power

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of Five, even worse than UVA
before the dining hall was open.

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The nutrition center in 2021, I
believe.

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Our players are mainly fed to
fast food catering after

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practice, so that included Jimmy
John's Subs, Domino's Pizza.

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I know someone who had to go buy
Klu Herbert Cookout every single

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week because he was not getting
enough food.

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So that kind of contextualizes,
you know, what we were dealing

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with back during the The 20
Ten's.

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Obviously Fuente failed for a
variety of reasons, which we

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have discussed ad nauseam, but I
do think this article is very

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important in contextualizing,
you know, why Virginia Tech

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struggled.
And the lack of emphasis on

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those sort of insular functions
that go into having a successful

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Power 5 football program.
As far as why the article was

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released this week, Andrea
Adelson said in a tweet that she

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spent twenty months writing it
because she wanted to interview

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as many people as possible and
be as thorough as possible.

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In my opinion, that's good
journalism.

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I know that the timing is a
little bit awkward, but I can

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understand from her perspective
why she felt the need to make

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sure that everything was
properly vetted.

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And and as accurate as possible.
So that's that.

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Obviously we've moved on.
I think we're a much better spot

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now, but I do think it was a
very necessary article so people

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could see the truth about what
the Virginia Technical Program

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was dealing with.
Yeah, great.

447
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:32,620
Great point, Sheldon.
Thank you for bringing all that

448
00:26:32,620 --> 00:26:34,660
up.
And obviously Shelton being down

449
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:37,940
there plugged in even more so to
the situation.

450
00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:41,100
You know, the other things that
came out was the stuff about

451
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,100
John Belin, who's currently part
of the administrative staff.

452
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,880
Nothing really shot me there
either because it's when a guy

453
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920
has been in a position that
long, you can see struggles like

454
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320
that happen.
You can see a new coach coming

455
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,800
in and you know, I'm, I'm going
to do it this way.

456
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,200
I want to do it this way.
And there's going to be butting

457
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,240
of heads.
Anyone that ever has worked in a

458
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,680
corporate structure or in any
sort of management or with any

459
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,440
sort of thing like that that
happened.

460
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,320
I guarantee you all five of us
in in our different career path

461
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,640
has seen that happen.
So there were some bombshells.

462
00:27:14,030 --> 00:27:16,790
And you know the one thing that
I that that still catch me and

463
00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:19,310
I've got the article up here,
I'm looking at it, It was they

464
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:23,150
always would ask how Frank would
want to do things, but they

465
00:27:23,150 --> 00:27:25,270
never asked it how Justin want
to do things.

466
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:28,390
And I feel like that is
something that I don't think

467
00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:30,830
happens anymore because I got a
feeling in that building right

468
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:33,390
now, hey, we're about to do this
with the logo.

469
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:34,950
West Coast, probably think about
it.

470
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:37,870
Y'all better go down to that
office and tell him what you're

471
00:27:37,870 --> 00:27:40,550
about to do, because I don't
think that shit flies anymore.

472
00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:44,390
Yeah, that was hard to be.
Always hard to be the man after

473
00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:46,630
the man.
Yeah, it's hard to be the man

474
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:49,950
after the man.
And I'll say this, I think I

475
00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:55,110
came in and he not only brought
in guys that could help him on

476
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:58,710
the recruiting front to build
that that recruiting roster up,

477
00:27:59,630 --> 00:28:03,510
but the other thing he did he he
put guys like Mike Hazel and

478
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:08,150
Mike Villagrana between him and
some of the administration.

479
00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:11,310
So he's got guys that are that
are sounding boards on various.

480
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,980
Football related topics that he
trusts that trust him that are a

481
00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:20,100
buffer between him and and and
maybe in this case of John

482
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:24,820
Berlin to to kind of keep the
program running in the direction

483
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:26,900
that I think he wants to steer
it.

484
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:32,340
That's kind of the thing that I
think didn't happen is that, you

485
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:37,140
know, we know that Berlin was
very trusted when Frank was

486
00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:41,610
coaching and.
We know that he got put in a

487
00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:45,850
position very close to Justin
Fuente during the transition,

488
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:53,730
and it seems like everything
that Beamer did was the 100%

489
00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:57,370
right way.
And if it wasn't that, there was

490
00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:03,170
going to be some sandbagging.
And you know that that makes

491
00:29:03,170 --> 00:29:04,970
that makes your job all the
harder.

492
00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:07,810
And you know when when we look
at that, it's like.

493
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:12,590
We got to move, we got to move
past Beamer.

494
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:15,310
We still got to respect our
legacy, but we've got to move

495
00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:17,190
past.
Well, Beamer did it this way.

496
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:18,550
So that's the right way to do
it.

497
00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:23,030
Like there's got to be some sort
of cut off there, and I think

498
00:29:23,030 --> 00:29:25,510
that didn't happen especially
during that transition.

499
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:30,630
Sheldon, I get your mute off, so
I have a feeling you want to say

500
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:33,830
something here.
Yeah, nothing too much.

501
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,460
I mean, like I said, you know?
Blinn's been there for a long

502
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:37,700
time.
Obviously, you know, I haven't

503
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:38,860
met the guys.
I'm not going to make any of

504
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:42,860
your personal comments, but he
does have a very fierce loyalty

505
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:45,380
to Beamer.
Obviously, you know, he's been

506
00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:47,540
with him forever.
And so I think he was more of

507
00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:49,900
the mindset that, well, this is
the way we've done in the past

508
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,500
and it worked.
But obviously that's that's not

509
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,820
that works anymore.
And look, the rally is, if you

510
00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:57,740
are not investing and and trying
to keep up with the times, you

511
00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,980
are falling behind.
And that's just what happened to

512
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:02,400
Virginia Tech in the twenty 10s.
It happens.

513
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
It doesn't mean that everyone in
the administration is dumb or

514
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,560
terrible and or an idiot.
It's just the nature of life.

515
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880
You fall behind, other teams
catch up and now we have to play

516
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,240
catch up right now.
So it's just a circle of life.

517
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840
I think like I said, BT's in a
much better spot, so we can

518
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600
acknowledge that there has been
some progress made to.

519
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Shelton's point and again, I
love what Shelton said.

520
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320
In the sense of I mean.
It's not my place to come on to

521
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,200
this podcast and and bash anyone
that I've never met or speak on

522
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,760
things behind the walls of
Merriman that I I don't know

523
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,080
about.
John Belen's been around the

524
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,640
program four years, ever since I
was probably three years old or

525
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,880
whenever he he jumped on board.
I think in the case of John

526
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,120
Belen, you you.
Have to evolve with the game,

527
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,960
and he's had so many roles
within the athletic department

528
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,480
where it doesn't seem like maybe
there's been an effort made even

529
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,520
a little bit to do that.
So maybe that's where the

530
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,680
frustration come.
Well, not Maybe that's where the

531
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,840
frustration comes from, from a
lot of Virginia Tech fans and

532
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,120
you don't.
I don't want to word this the

533
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,720
wrong way, but you can't have
stains on a program that is

534
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,070
trying to grow.
And is trying to better itself.

535
00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:28,110
So when people, people need a
fall guy, always someone to

536
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:32,950
point the finger and say it's
that one person's fault and you

537
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:34,710
know, you could point the finger
at him, but I don't.

538
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:36,830
I don't think that'd be fair.
But.

539
00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:42,230
Yeah, you know, the game is
evolving and we got to keep up.

540
00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:46,670
So however that happens, it's
just got to happen a. 100%, And

541
00:31:46,670 --> 00:31:48,310
that's the thing.
And you just said it like

542
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:51,110
passing out the blame.
It's a little bit on everyone.

543
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:54,980
It's a little bit on everyone.
You can't say it's all him, it's

544
00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:56,620
all him.
It's all them, it's all them.

545
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:58,940
Everyone had a little bit to do
with it.

546
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:01,340
And I think what's happening,
Shelton, you've made it and you

547
00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:03,060
and Shelton keeps going back to
it.

548
00:32:03,140 --> 00:32:06,020
Shelton's looking forward.
It looks like the corrections

549
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:08,700
are being made.
That's the more important part

550
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:11,500
because if this article was
coming out and some of the

551
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,260
things that we know that are
going on right now like the

552
00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:18,220
nutrition center being built,
like the dorms being built, like

553
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:21,060
the changes to obviously the
support staff.

554
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Then it would be a bigger issue,
right?

555
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,400
About the new weights.
Go ahead, Grayson.

556
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Here's my honest question to
whit Babcock I I hope he's

557
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,040
listening.
Why would you spend hundreds of

558
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,000
$1,000,000 hundreds of millions
of dollars to upgrade facilities

559
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,600
at large and not finish the job
with the weights?

560
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Like, how much are those weights
collectively?

561
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,170
They can't be over. $100,000,
could they in that ballpark

562
00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:57,650
roughly.
It's like if you're spending

563
00:32:57,650 --> 00:33:01,450
that much money, just finish it,
take it all the way.

564
00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:06,010
That's that's all I have to say.
And the quote is just funny just

565
00:33:06,010 --> 00:33:09,930
hearing the fact that the WIT
said that weights way the same.

566
00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:12,970
He's not wrong, but.
He's not wrong, but.

567
00:33:13,090 --> 00:33:16,610
But come on.
Come on, he kind of wrong.

568
00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:21,440
Yeah, he's.
I just got it wrong.

569
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,360
I mean, if y'all want me to go
into it, I don't look like I

570
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,280
lifted.
Let it.

571
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Let it go.
Let it ride, man.

572
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,600
Let it ride.
Tell us what you got.

573
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,600
So people who lift weights, free
weights, most of the time

574
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,720
they're going to, they're going
to take hits, drop, fall chips

575
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,920
are going to happen.
So in a sense over, I mean we

576
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,520
worked with rubber weights as
well.

577
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,520
You know, people would cut them,
do different things.

578
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:53,070
So old weights, if it's a £25
weight and it's been there for

579
00:33:53,070 --> 00:33:57,190
25 years, it's it may not be
20-5 pounds anymore, 22.

580
00:33:57,230 --> 00:34:01,230
And 1/2 it may be 22 1/2 which
is different.

581
00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:05,230
So weight don't weigh the same.
I will, I will piggy back on

582
00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:06,910
that real quick.
I'll let you finish tally.

583
00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:09,830
But like, I mean, when we used
to lift, we that we do, you

584
00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:12,550
know, risk strengthening stuff
and you know, we have to, you

585
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:15,230
know, grab plates and we have a
clock on us and we'd have to

586
00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:18,070
hold the plates for, you know,
however, however long.

587
00:34:18,739 --> 00:34:22,219
You'd always find the ones that
were newer because you could get

588
00:34:22,219 --> 00:34:24,860
your fingertips underneath them
bitches a lot better than the

589
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:27,420
ones that were older that it
worn down a little bit.

590
00:34:27,739 --> 00:34:30,780
They were a little slicker, They
might slip out your hands, you

591
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:32,780
know, in the middle of that
clock and then you got to have

592
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:36,020
to do some up downs or you know
a couple extra gassers or

593
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:38,699
something like that.
So you got to find the weights

594
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,980
that are that are new.
Yeah man, it is, it is.

595
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:46,020
It's crazy.
But I mean for me, just the last

596
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:50,510
to to finish off the, to talk
about the, the, the article, it

597
00:34:50,510 --> 00:34:52,670
wasn't.
I mean I guess I'll talk a lot

598
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:54,870
or I listen a lot.
So I've talked to a lot of

599
00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:58,510
people and like Shelton said, I
mean it's a lot of this stuff

600
00:34:58,870 --> 00:35:02,830
that was already kind of known.
Yeah, it was like the timing of

601
00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:05,350
it kind of threw me off a little
bit because it's like I'm

602
00:35:05,350 --> 00:35:07,750
getting ready for the game.
I'm ready to see some football

603
00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:09,230
and then you see something like
that.

604
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:12,510
But it's like most of the stuff
in there it it had already been

605
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:14,430
said and it had already been
known so.

606
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:16,220
Yep.
I like what we got here.

607
00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:18,580
Dwight saying just a heads up
not hearsay.

608
00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:21,700
Even Bud admitted when these
changes were warranted and the

609
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:23,940
program had gotten stale.
And I'm going to leave it at

610
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:28,380
this y'all and and I said it
before and I think we all be.

611
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:32,620
It's a lot of blame to go around
how far we fell behind and for

612
00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:35,940
years like 2004 when we were the
third highest salary in the

613
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,420
country.
It's time to get back there.

614
00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:41,060
So.
Let's drop that where it is

615
00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:44,420
right there, because now we get
to talk about the upcoming

616
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:48,500
season, the 2023 hokey football
season, and we're going to do a

617
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:49,740
little something different
tonight.

618
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,500
All five of us have picked on
each side of the ball 3

619
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:57,540
gentlemen that we feel are going
to be key players for the year

620
00:35:57,540 --> 00:36:00,380
of 2023.
So what we're going to do is

621
00:36:00,380 --> 00:36:02,180
we're going to start on the
defensive side of the ball.

622
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:05,580
We're going to go through each
room if we have a player that we

623
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,300
feel, we're going to name who
they are.

624
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:10,310
And we're going to discuss why
we feel, in our own personal

625
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:13,270
opinion, it is that way.
So we're going to start on

626
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:15,950
defense and we're going to start
in the linebacker room.

627
00:36:16,510 --> 00:36:21,590
And the name that appeared more
than one time was Kalai Lawson

628
00:36:22,670 --> 00:36:25,750
Tally, you put him as one of
yours.

629
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:29,190
Why'd you put him, man?
Hey, look at him, You know what

630
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:31,350
I'm saying?
Y'all seen pictures of him.

631
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,240
Oh, we've seen them, we've seen
them.

632
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,440
And he got into.
The fridge list, I mean, let him

633
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,840
get off the bus first.
We need to one of the knocks

634
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,640
that I've always had for
Virginia Tech, you know, going

635
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,360
and watch them play.
I would go to Atlanta and watch

636
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,240
us play Georgia Tech, which is,
you know, a team that's very

637
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,160
similar to us.
Now we might not want to admit

638
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
it, but they are.
We were always so much smaller

639
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,560
than everybody that I wouldn't
watch us play.

640
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,560
You know, sometimes we have some
heart and we play hard, but like

641
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,190
just physically Jermaine Edmonds
was, he looks totally different

642
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:08,470
than anybody else on the field.
I get it.

643
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:11,750
He is a freak too.
But you know, we only have a

644
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:13,550
couple of players that that
looked apart.

645
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:18,910
So I think that we're getting
back to actually having a Power

646
00:37:18,910 --> 00:37:22,670
five looking football team,
which I'm very glad about.

647
00:37:23,110 --> 00:37:26,790
But Lawson's just one of those
guys where he looks the part and

648
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:30,890
he's also athletic enough where
he can do some things different

649
00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:33,250
at that linebacker position.
He can, he can cover.

650
00:37:33,850 --> 00:37:38,370
We seen him make the tip pass
interception last year.

651
00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:40,130
Not only that, returning for a
touchdown.

652
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:42,490
You know, we got to see some
stuff like that out of our

653
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:45,770
linebacker room to to just have
us competing.

654
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:47,890
So that's why why I'm thinking
him.

655
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:49,410
I think he's going to have a
good year this year.

656
00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:52,850
Sheldon, you were another one
that texted me, Kalai Lawson.

657
00:37:52,850 --> 00:37:55,130
Why is he on your radar as one
of the key players?

658
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:58,130
Yeah, like Todd said, he's just
a physical freak.

659
00:37:58,130 --> 00:38:00,690
It kind of reminds me, I know
it's a different position, but

660
00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:04,250
Divine Diablo back a few years
ago at safety, people always

661
00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:05,890
say, man, that dude is a
specimen.

662
00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:08,210
I would say the same about about
K Lawson.

663
00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:12,210
Long, athletic, long arms.
I mean, that's exactly what you

664
00:38:12,210 --> 00:38:12,810
want.
I know.

665
00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:15,090
You know, for him, obviously
he's got a lot of work to do.

666
00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:18,290
The greats last season where you
know less a lot to be desired.

667
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:21,130
But he's still learning.
I think for for me, he's got the

668
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:24,330
highest ceiling by far in this
linebacker, this linebacker room

669
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,210
because his physical attributes.
So I'm really excited to see how

670
00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:28,330
he develops.
Yep.

671
00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:30,890
And I this was one of mine as
well.

672
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:33,690
Folks on was Kalala, Lawson and
I kind of look back.

673
00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:36,730
Tally mentioned that Georgia
Tech game, really the last three

674
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:39,330
games of the season, because the
first half of the season he

675
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:41,290
wasn't playing much.
He was getting spots here and

676
00:38:41,290 --> 00:38:44,290
there, doing some special teams.
But in the last three games of

677
00:38:44,290 --> 00:38:48,610
the season, 16 total tackles. 3
tackles for loss, a sack and

678
00:38:48,610 --> 00:38:53,130
interception, A fumble recovery.
You do the math in three games

679
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:54,810
and do that over the course of
four.

680
00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:57,890
So right at 70 tackles, I'm not
going to say the other pieces

681
00:38:57,890 --> 00:39:01,850
are going to come, but it was
that maturation where Brent

682
00:39:01,850 --> 00:39:04,850
Prime, Chris Mark felt
comfortable enough to basically

683
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:07,130
start playing him significantly
more at will.

684
00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:10,690
And when he got that and he
started putting the results out

685
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:13,530
on the field.
Now, Mr. Siegler.

686
00:39:14,380 --> 00:39:17,500
You did not say Mr. Lawson, but
you did have somebody in the

687
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:20,100
linebacker room and something
else you want to tell the folks

688
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,660
out there tonight.
Yeah, I mean, while while we got

689
00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:25,860
your little captive audience
here, you know we're giving 3 on

690
00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:28,340
each side of the ball.
If y'all want to throw three in

691
00:39:28,340 --> 00:39:30,260
there, let us know.
We'll try to get those on there

692
00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:32,500
and talk about them a little
bit, especially if we got one on

693
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,540
there that may be a little
different than what we're

694
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:37,020
talking about.
But the guy I'm going with is

695
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:41,500
Jaden Keller because we've got a
big hole there at Mike

696
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:44,170
linebacker.
You know both.

697
00:39:44,170 --> 00:39:46,890
Both of the linebackers that saw
the most significant time are no

698
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:53,090
longer with program in 2023.
Jaden Keller has a big, big

699
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:57,770
opportunity to really step in
there because his athleticism is

700
00:39:57,970 --> 00:40:00,130
significantly higher than
anything we saw at the Mike

701
00:40:00,130 --> 00:40:04,090
linebacker position last year.
If he can get the mental part

702
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:08,290
and that translates and he can
step into that role and be the

703
00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:10,890
guy that is the quarterback of
the defense.

704
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,240
That's going to significantly
change the trajectory of the

705
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,760
linebacker room, just like if
Lawson takes that next step and

706
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,720
becomes that freak that
everyone's talked about.

707
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:25,840
If Keller can be that solid role
in the solid role in the middle

708
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,520
of that defense, but also
elevate the athleticism at that

709
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Mike linebacker position, that's
going to be a big boost for that

710
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200
defense.
Alrighty.

711
00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:40,790
So there are some of one of our
three now.

712
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:41,750
Y'all didn't hear.
Grayson.

713
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:43,870
Grayson didn't have anybody in
the linebacker room.

714
00:40:44,270 --> 00:40:46,430
And I think you're going to see
why in the next room because

715
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:48,190
we're moving over to the
defensive line.

716
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:53,590
And the big vote getter here was
Antoine Powell Ryland.

717
00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:55,750
Brian, I'll let you lead off on
this one, man.

718
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:58,070
I know he just asked you to
talk, but he was one of your.

719
00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:01,550
He was your second of three.
Yeah, I'll talk a little bit

720
00:41:01,550 --> 00:41:04,510
more.
This guy has already flashed.

721
00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:08,430
We've already seen the highlight
tapes coming from ball camp of

722
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:11,670
him putting spin moves on guys
him, you know a little bit of a

723
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:15,430
bull rush, little bit of a
little speed rush.

724
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:19,390
I mean he's he's got some
different moves there already in

725
00:41:19,390 --> 00:41:22,550
his skill set and he's a big guy
coming in.

726
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:26,030
He's already ready to to kind of
play against the the ACC

727
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:28,390
competition.
He fared well against SEC

728
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:31,070
competition you you would think
that was that's going to

729
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:34,310
translate pretty good for him
especially in a full time role

730
00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:36,230
hand in the dirt most of the
time.

731
00:41:36,830 --> 00:41:38,870
I'm looking forward to see what
he can do because it feels like

732
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:43,670
this could be the first kind of
big pass rusher that we've seen

733
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:47,350
in a while where we can maybe
get to double digit sacks with

734
00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:51,030
with one individual.
So I think we we said last week

735
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:53,990
at Kenneth Cannon was the last
one to to hit that 10 mark.

736
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:57,990
So it would be nice to see that
10 mark hit by by Powell Ryland

737
00:41:57,990 --> 00:42:01,110
this year if he can kind of get
up to speed, because definitely

738
00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:04,070
a freak for sure all.
Right tally, this was your #2.

739
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:10,130
You know, one reason I guess to
start just off the field.

740
00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:14,170
Him being a guy that you know,
Tech missed being a Virginia

741
00:42:14,170 --> 00:42:16,770
guy.
Tech missed him at first.

742
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:21,490
He goes to Florida, you know,
possibly because of the last

743
00:42:21,490 --> 00:42:24,530
regime, possibly because of
recruit, maybe because of where

744
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:26,970
the program was at the time.
Doesn't really matter.

745
00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:30,290
Shows how important the transfer
portal is.

746
00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:33,450
You got to keep those
relationships open.

747
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Because we double back and we
get him when he leaves Florida,

748
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Now he's coming back home and
you know his family's will be

749
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,800
able to come to more games
because it's closer to home for

750
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,520
him.
Then you also have him just on

751
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,160
the field making plays.
I think he had like 30 tacos

752
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640
last year in a limited role, 3
sacks.

753
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,520
It's been a long time since
we've had a just a defensive end

754
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,440
that offices had to prepare for,
you know?

755
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:05,500
And when I say prepare for, you
got to run some double teams.

756
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:07,060
You got to put a tight end in
the box.

757
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:09,740
You got to have a running back
back there.

758
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:14,580
Like when you have a defensive
end, it can create havoc and do

759
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:17,380
some things like that.
It frees other people up, it

760
00:43:17,380 --> 00:43:19,980
frees your linebackers up, it
frees your other defensive end

761
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:21,500
up.
So we need the person on the

762
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:25,180
other side to to to step up.
But it all starts with what he

763
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:29,580
can do and I think that with
him, you know, coming in and

764
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:32,470
having a bigger role for us.
I think he's going to have a

765
00:43:32,590 --> 00:43:35,350
good year and it's going to, you
know, like I said, free up a lot

766
00:43:35,350 --> 00:43:38,510
of things for us as well as that
DB row, Alright, Grayson.

767
00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:40,310
This was this was your first to
three?

768
00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:42,270
Yup.
I'm Mr. APR.

769
00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:45,710
I think, I think he's going to
have a great year.

770
00:43:45,790 --> 00:43:51,950
Tally 6 three £242 product of
Indian River High School.

771
00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:54,710
Many Hokies remember Devin
Hunter actually went to Indian

772
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:57,790
River High School in Portsmouth,
VA.

773
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:03,620
Used to be at Florida and
everything that I've seen, all

774
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:06,340
the tape I've seen from
practice, the the small amount

775
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:10,660
that does exist on a PRI mean,
it's really hard to not get

776
00:44:10,660 --> 00:44:14,540
excited about this kid.
He's he's only a junior at

777
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:17,100
Virginia Tech, so he's got a
couple years of eligibility

778
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:21,100
left.
And I'm just, I'm just ready to

779
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:25,610
have playmakers at a lot.
Of positions on our defense and

780
00:44:25,610 --> 00:44:27,730
we got them.
We got a lot of young guys,

781
00:44:27,730 --> 00:44:29,290
which is very, very exciting as
well.

782
00:44:29,290 --> 00:44:33,570
So really, really fired up about
APR.

783
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:35,690
Welcome to Blacksburg.
Let's do some damage.

784
00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:37,410
Welcome to Blacksburg Indian
River.

785
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:40,650
You mentioned you mentioned
Devin.

786
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:43,250
They don't forget Brandon Orr
High school as well way back in

787
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:45,770
the day.
All right, let me flip over to

788
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:47,930
Shelton.
Cuz Shelton, we staying on the

789
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:50,650
defensive line, but you are
moving inside for your next guy.

790
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:55,390
Yes, that's right.
So I went with Mario Kendricks

791
00:44:55,790 --> 00:44:58,670
into your lineman.
You know I just felt like he was

792
00:44:58,670 --> 00:45:02,550
really productive most of the
last season pulling the stats so

793
00:45:02,590 --> 00:45:08,110
he so he had he had 24 total QB
pressures and I think you know

794
00:45:08,110 --> 00:45:11,430
when you look at the defensive
line this year in the ACC, Kobe

795
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:15,030
Turner is gone can't see from
Pittsburgh is gone.

796
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:18,590
I think he has a chance to be a
top five, 6-7 pass pressure in

797
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:21,800
the in the conference.
And he's a big, you know, run

798
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,240
stuffing type of guy.
I think he's going to be a

799
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:27,920
pretty big part of this this D
line you throw pal in there as

800
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,640
well.
I mean, I'm expecting, I'm

801
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,520
expecting pretty big things.
Big things from Mario Kendricks.

802
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,560
I'm one of the higher grader PFS
last year.

803
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,160
I think you've mentioned that a
few times.

804
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,800
I'm Shelton to us.
All right, Grayson, I'm gonna

805
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080
flip back to you and give you a
four because you are staying on

806
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
the interior and you got a
pretty.

807
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:48,110
Big name that, Yeah, you wonder
what you're going to see from.

808
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:53,030
Well, there's not a lot of, I
guess numbers on this young man,

809
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:58,830
but Gunner Givens, I am ecstatic
to see him contribute to this

810
00:45:58,830 --> 00:46:05,030
defense this season.
Gunner Givens 6, five 287

811
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:09,510
pounds, Product of Lord Bata Tot
High School down there in

812
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:12,670
Roanoke Salem.
The the surrounding areas.

813
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:16,220
No.
Gunner had a lot of hype coming

814
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:19,660
into Blacksburg four-star kid
and you know he was that was a

815
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:24,060
big deal when he committed to
Virginia Tech stayed home.

816
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:30,180
So I'm just I want to see what
he can do that's that's pretty

817
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:32,300
much it.
I just want to see what he can

818
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,340
do.
There's not a lot on him, so how

819
00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:39,740
much, how much will he
contribute early on and then in

820
00:46:39,860 --> 00:46:42,230
into the season?
Yeah, if anything, with the

821
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:45,750
interior line, at least one of
the two younger guys like Gunner

822
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:49,270
need to at least start getting
reps because it is going to be

823
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:51,590
Kendricks obviously gone next
year with Pollard.

824
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:53,230
All right, I got one in this
room.

825
00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:56,190
This is my second of three, and
I'm going to go on the other

826
00:46:56,190 --> 00:46:58,990
side of the defensive line and
I'm going to go Cole Nelson.

827
00:46:59,790 --> 00:47:03,070
Cole Nelson, obviously three
star out of Georgia, You know,

828
00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:06,350
6-3, about £248.
He's gained some weight since

829
00:47:06,350 --> 00:47:09,590
he's been here.
We saw him play last year and

830
00:47:09,590 --> 00:47:15,030
the reason I'm putting him last
year. 5 1/2 tackles for Laws, 24

831
00:47:15,350 --> 00:47:20,310
tackles in general, 2 sacks.
But whoever is on the opposite

832
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:24,910
end of a PR has to make the
other team pay.

833
00:47:26,090 --> 00:47:29,370
And whether it's him, and I put
Cole because I saw Cole on tape

834
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:32,530
last year do some good things.
I know we're hearing Burgos.

835
00:47:32,770 --> 00:47:35,970
But whoever on that end, they
have to make the other team pay

836
00:47:36,490 --> 00:47:39,730
because once you start making
that other team pay, there is

837
00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:41,650
nowhere else you can do.
You're not going to take the

838
00:47:41,770 --> 00:47:43,530
tally.
Tell me, Brian, tell me, are you

839
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:45,890
going to really take the tight
end chipping off the left side?

840
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:49,050
Yeah.
I mean, you can't Max protect.

841
00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:51,290
You can't Max protect every
every pass play.

842
00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:54,250
You're not, you're not chipping
with a tight end and chipping

843
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:56,170
with a running back.
You you're eventually going to

844
00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:58,250
have to figure something else
out.

845
00:47:58,250 --> 00:47:59,850
So.
That's why I say cold, because I

846
00:47:59,850 --> 00:48:02,010
think we've seen the most.
And then it goes back to

847
00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:04,730
Shelton's point, too, with
Kendrick and and Grayson, your

848
00:48:04,730 --> 00:48:10,210
guy gunner, if outside pressure
is happening, everything's going

849
00:48:10,210 --> 00:48:12,690
to open up.
Everything's going to open up

850
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:16,060
for this defense.
When you talk about, when you

851
00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:19,020
talk about what we're talking
about with defensive lineman, it

852
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:21,940
takes us to our next, you know,
our next, our next group.

853
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,940
You know, even if you're not
getting sex, even if you're not

854
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:27,540
getting home, if you're there
with your hands up or you're

855
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:29,980
causing pressure on the
quarterback, guess who that

856
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:31,580
helps.
That helps your defense, that

857
00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:34,980
helps your secondary.
So go ahead.

858
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,840
I know we're going to that next.
Yeah, we're going to secondary

859
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:48,240
next.
We want it to be difficult

860
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:39,480
today.
And Sheldon, we're going to let

861
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,240
you kick this one off with
because believe it or not, y'all

862
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,000
somehow 5 hokey fans have five
different names for the

863
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960
secondary.
We won't be difficult, but it

864
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,360
also says how good the secondary
room is.

865
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Sheldon, who's your guy?
Yes, my guy is Dorian Strong.

866
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,320
I chose Dorian because I feel
like he's almost kind of a

867
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,770
diamond in the rough.
He was a guy that came in

868
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:06,250
freshman year, 2020, the COVID
year, had a really good season,

869
00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:10,290
all things considered regress a
little bit in 2021.

870
00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:12,170
Obviously the last year was
injured for the majority of the

871
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:14,330
year.
He did play well while he was

872
00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:16,930
playing, but it's like you know,
whenever you have a guy come in

873
00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:18,810
and play well as a freshman's,
kind of like, OK, this guy's a

874
00:49:18,810 --> 00:49:20,970
star was during.
He just hasn't really had that

875
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:24,090
opportunity to show it because
of his injuries and regression.

876
00:49:24,690 --> 00:49:26,530
I really think he has a chance
for breakout year.

877
00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:28,890
He's also playing opposite
Mansard Lane, who is obviously a

878
00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:30,450
stud, as we have previously
noted.

879
00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:33,900
For Genetex, coverage was
fantastic last year I believe

880
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:37,260
they finished 11th best
nationally and passing success

881
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:39,780
rate allowed and that was
largely because of the

882
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:41,780
cornerbacks.
So you put mentor Delaine in

883
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:46,340
there with Count the Jenkins I
think during strong is going to

884
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:47,820
have a bounce back year.
I think it's kind of a really,

885
00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:51,420
really good season that.
Sounds good, Callie.

886
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:56,260
You you stayed at corner man.
Yeah, well, you know, I I wanted

887
00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:58,940
to pick Dorian Strong, but I
can't get past his his jersey

888
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:01,510
number at 44.
It's still killing me.

889
00:50:01,590 --> 00:50:04,150
I could never pick a a person
with that.

890
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:06,670
Dory.
Hey man, you need a different

891
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:08,390
number.
I think it's single digits.

892
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:10,710
You need to get a single digit
number or something.

893
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:16,590
But anyway so for me it was
Canteen because I mean I've just

894
00:50:16,990 --> 00:50:19,430
of course we're all hype about
the season so you're picking up

895
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:22,630
every you know bit that you can.
You're picking up every video

896
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:25,790
that you can and I've seen
Canteen Flash.

897
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:30,270
You had to pick in the you had
to pick in the spring game.

898
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:32,790
And then I'm hearing other
players talk about his

899
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:34,750
leadership.
I'm hearing him say he's the

900
00:50:34,750 --> 00:50:40,310
first guy in, last guy out.
I mean, what you have in a young

901
00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:44,030
defensive backroom like we have,
we know we have some studs

902
00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:46,510
coming up.
We know Delaine is going to be a

903
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:48,550
stud, but he's still a younger
guy.

904
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:53,830
Canteen coming in and having
that mentality of I'm here to

905
00:50:53,830 --> 00:50:57,750
work and people seeing that as
soon as he got there just has me

906
00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:00,030
excited for him.
Because he has the ability.

907
00:51:00,030 --> 00:51:03,590
We've seen him on the field, you
know, at his last school.

908
00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:07,150
But him having that mentality is
more of what's got me excited

909
00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:09,350
about him, of just being there
to work.

910
00:51:09,350 --> 00:51:12,270
But you know it's going to be
competition with all those good

911
00:51:12,590 --> 00:51:15,710
defensive backs in there.
And again, I think he's going to

912
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:17,110
make some plays on the field as
well.

913
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:21,870
That sounds like a plan, so let
me let me just do this real

914
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,310
quick here.
Poor and strong freshman

915
00:51:25,310 --> 00:51:28,030
allamerican.
Here canteen freshman

916
00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:31,150
Allamerican Grayson, Can you hit
the trifecta for me?

917
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:34,910
Mansoor Delaine.
It's it's written in the stars.

918
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:40,350
I mean, Speaking of single digit
numbers, God, he got out of that

919
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:45,070
23.
I mean just he joins a long line

920
00:51:45,070 --> 00:51:48,150
of studs at Virginia Tech to
wear #4.

921
00:51:48,590 --> 00:51:51,470
David Wilson, Eddie Royal,
D'Angelo Hall, Dax Hollifield.

922
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:55,310
Andre Kendricks.
I mean, who else?

923
00:51:55,310 --> 00:51:57,270
Who am I missing?
Eddie Royal?

924
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:59,150
Did I say that already?
Yeah.

925
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:01,230
Yeah, either way.
But Delaine is.

926
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:07,470
We know this kid's A baller. 38
tackles, 17 solo in 2020, two, 1

927
00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:12,310
1/2 tackles for loss.
I mean, what What can you not

928
00:52:12,310 --> 00:52:16,710
say about Delaine?
Just had a breakout freshman

929
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:18,670
season.
He was a highlight in a.

930
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,820
Season full of no offense, kind
of low lights, you win.

931
00:52:22,820 --> 00:52:25,260
Three games is a hard first
season, but we knew it was

932
00:52:25,260 --> 00:52:28,740
coming.
So I think this kid, bare

933
00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:32,980
minimum All ACC.
Just an absolute stud.

934
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:37,020
Really, really excited to see
him flourish in his second year

935
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:38,980
out.
And he did all of that with no

936
00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:40,820
offseason and stuff, right?
Like, he didn't.

937
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,980
He didn't enroll early or
anything like that.

938
00:52:42,980 --> 00:52:44,260
He just came in and started
playing.

939
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:46,060
True freshman.
True freshman.

940
00:52:46,220 --> 00:52:48,180
Nothing.
So that's crazy.

941
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:54,440
I seen him on a seeing him on a
maybe media day or something

942
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,920
like that and his arms look
jacked like he looks like he's

943
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,560
been in the weight room and
those weights probably weighed

944
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,760
the same as well.
Those weights were the new

945
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,440
weights that.
OK.

946
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,560
They were the new.
So they weigh a little bit more,

947
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,040
but they've got.
The right amount.

948
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:14,200
All right, Sigla, me and you, we
we're moving to the back end

949
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,240
because I said we all had five
different ones.

950
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:20,120
Sigla, who's your guy on the
back end, man, I went a little

951
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,800
sideways on this one, but I got,
I got some reasons here, so I

952
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,080
went Jalen Jones, he's switching
sides of the ball.

953
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,600
We have a good we got, we got
some, we got some good frontline

954
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,920
safeties on that side of the
ball.

955
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,800
But with a lot of experience you
got, you know, the guy somebody,

956
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,320
I think Curtis is going to talk
about next stepping into a big

957
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,840
role there.
But I feel like we're going to

958
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,040
need one or two more guys to
round out that room.

959
00:53:47,740 --> 00:53:51,420
Jalen Jones coming along and and
we we've heard some things you

960
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:53,900
know from the coaches, from the
players talking him up, what

961
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:56,460
he's done so far in fall camp,
what he did kind of towards the

962
00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:58,260
end of spring there with that
position switch.

963
00:53:59,020 --> 00:54:01,580
If he can step into a big role
where he's a, he's a solid

964
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:04,700
rotational safety for this team,
that's going to pay dividends

965
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,740
because we're going to need that
type of depth on the back end to

966
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:10,340
hold up.
Because one of the big things we

967
00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:14,460
saw last year, it wasn't just
that our front end talent wasn't

968
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:16,740
where it needed to be.
It was that our depth in the

969
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:19,940
secondary would show its head in
the late 3rd and early fourth

970
00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:24,540
quarter and games that we were
hanging around in all of a

971
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:28,020
sudden became blowouts.
Games that we were had the lead

972
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:30,100
in would suddenly go the other
direction.

973
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:34,100
Having guys that can step in and
play those key depth positions

974
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:37,700
in the secondary is going to be
big for this, this team and I

975
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:39,540
feel like Jalen Jones is going
to be a part of that.

976
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:43,260
Yeah, it's got to be somebody
else on the back end.

977
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:45,300
Because you mentioned Jalen,
he's probably looking at

978
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:47,100
probably playing a strong safety
position.

979
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:50,700
I went with the free safety and
and I went with the legacy and

980
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:53,980
Jalen Stroman last year he was
pressed in the duty to play free

981
00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:56,660
safety and effectively we could
not find a nickel and we're

982
00:54:56,660 --> 00:55:00,100
forced to move Jamari back down
to play nickel.

983
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:04,140
He stepped in 43 tackles, 2 fast
deflections, 2 force fumbles.

984
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:08,060
As a red shirt freshman, he only
played four games his first year

985
00:55:08,420 --> 00:55:11,780
and then I think if everybody
can go back to it, go back to

986
00:55:11,780 --> 00:55:14,660
the spring game and the
interception he made on drones,

987
00:55:15,260 --> 00:55:17,860
we talked about that play.
We've talked about it numerous

988
00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:20,460
times.
Special players make that play,

989
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:24,020
special players make that play.
And I think with the legacy of

990
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:27,500
how Big Brother played here, I
think he's going to be

991
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,060
something.
I think we better hold on

992
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:31,980
because it might be one of those
things.

993
00:55:31,980 --> 00:55:34,140
He could have that type of all
ACC season.

994
00:55:34,450 --> 00:55:37,810
Where he ain't here next year.
Yeah, don't forget.

995
00:55:38,290 --> 00:55:40,530
Yeah, don't forget.
Dwight has stabbed him.

996
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:42,610
That's the white guy from the
beginning.

997
00:55:43,210 --> 00:55:45,650
Dwight said he don't.
Dwight said he don't miss often.

998
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:49,290
So because I've known him, I
don't think he's missed on the

999
00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:51,690
guy he's told me about.
So he's not going, he's not

1000
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:53,730
going to put you on a pedestal
if he doesn't know you the real

1001
00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:55,130
deal.
Well, that's the truth.

1002
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:56,610
All right, so tailor the tape
here.

1003
00:55:57,050 --> 00:56:01,610
We got Tally with Kalai Lawson
APR and Derek Canteen.

1004
00:56:01,930 --> 00:56:05,410
We got Sheldon with Kalai
Lawson, Mario Kendricks and

1005
00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:09,330
Dorian Strong.
Brian's got Jaden Keller, APR

1006
00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:13,690
and Jalen Jones.
Our buddy Grayson here.

1007
00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:19,010
We got a PR Gunner, Givens and
Mansoor Delaine.

1008
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:22,490
And I'm rolling with Kalai
Lawson, Cole Nelson and Jalen

1009
00:56:22,490 --> 00:56:26,370
Stroman real quick.
Don't go into any detail on it.

1010
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:29,330
Who's the one player from the
defensive side of the ball that

1011
00:56:29,330 --> 00:56:31,050
you left off?
Go Shelton.

1012
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
One player.
Delaine.

1013
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,480
Delaine Grayson.
Can we can we say repeats?

1014
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,160
I mean, or does it matter?
No, no.

1015
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,240
Who's your Who was your fourth
guy who was right there but you

1016
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,560
didn't?
Put them in.

1017
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,840
Definitely Lawson.
Yeah, all.

1018
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Right Tally.
I'd say Pollard.

1019
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,160
Pollard.
OK.

1020
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,320
That's a different one, Brian
Lawson.

1021
00:56:58,410 --> 00:56:59,610
I think.
I think the linebackers are

1022
00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:02,370
going to be the the thing that
makes the difference this year.

1023
00:57:02,370 --> 00:57:04,450
I think the the D line's going
to step up.

1024
00:57:04,450 --> 00:57:05,690
That's going to help the
secondary.

1025
00:57:05,690 --> 00:57:07,650
The difference is going to be in
the linebacker room.

1026
00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:09,650
If they can make significant
jumps, we're going to be a good

1027
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:10,610
team.
Yeah.

1028
00:57:10,610 --> 00:57:12,810
And I'm with you on that.
My mind on the cutting room

1029
00:57:12,810 --> 00:57:15,930
floor was Keller.
Like it was Keller because like

1030
00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:18,370
what Brian made.
Because if Keller takes a step,

1031
00:57:19,250 --> 00:57:22,370
I'm, I'm just, I'm reliving 2007
again, baby.

1032
00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:26,530
That's all an Xavier TV if those
two guys pop.

1033
00:57:27,210 --> 00:57:29,690
All right, let's flip over to
the offensive side of the room

1034
00:57:29,690 --> 00:57:32,130
here.
And again, we're going to do the

1035
00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:34,650
same way.
We'll start out here with the

1036
00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:40,130
wide receiver room and someone
who got two votes, Jalen Lane

1037
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:41,690
and Brian, you were one of the
first ones.

1038
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:45,890
Why you think Jalen?
I think Jalen, I mean, we said

1039
00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:49,410
it on the panel last week.
He was he was kind of my, my,

1040
00:57:49,450 --> 00:57:53,250
my, my big guy to keep an eye on
and he remains that for me

1041
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,240
because you know, I feel like
Ollie Jennings is going to cook

1042
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,240
outside.
But looking at last year's

1043
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,000
offense, what was missing
significantly was short and

1044
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,400
intermediate passes, especially
between the numbers and between

1045
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,800
the hashes.
If we can work the the the

1046
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,160
middle of the field a whole lot
better this year, that's going

1047
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,800
to open things up for everybody
else.

1048
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,720
Jalen Lane has game breaking
type speed, but he's also quick.

1049
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,840
He can move kind of inside those
numbers with the with those

1050
00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:24,700
different route trees that
you're going to run for the slot

1051
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:26,180
position.
So I'm looking forward to see

1052
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:29,220
what he can do and take
advantage of the interior some

1053
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:31,740
of these defenses that we didn't
really exploit much last year

1054
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:34,540
all.
Right, Shelton, You've also got

1055
00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:38,900
him on here and I know you
probably went data diving for

1056
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,580
what you found out from him.
Why is Jalen one of your top

1057
00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:46,220
guys for the offensive side?
Yeah, it was actually more of a

1058
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:47,460
hunch.
I feel like we kind of know

1059
00:58:47,460 --> 00:58:50,260
we're getting in Jennings, but I
feel like Lane Lane was almost

1060
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:53,000
like an X Factor.
You know just looking at some of

1061
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,240
the stats Pastor writing when
targeted really really good

1062
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,120
overall grades really really
good.

1063
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,280
He's also a very good in yards
after the catch which we saw in

1064
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,680
that touchdown against Miami he
had.

1065
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,640
So I think he's got some
breakaway speed and and yeah I

1066
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:14,120
think also smaller but certainly
important thing very good hands

1067
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,680
grade on PFF so he's not drop a
lot of passes to which.

1068
00:59:17,710 --> 00:59:20,150
We made discuss was a very, very
big problem for Virginia Tech

1069
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:21,630
last year.
Why receivers dropping passes.

1070
00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:26,110
I think they were Tech was maybe
fifth worst power five in a drop

1071
00:59:26,110 --> 00:59:28,510
rate.
So yeah that's that's got to

1072
00:59:28,510 --> 00:59:29,830
change.
But I think, I think Lynn's got

1073
00:59:29,830 --> 00:59:33,030
some pretty steady hands.
All righty, Well, we'll keep.

1074
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:34,550
We're going to stay in the
Wilder swimming room.

1075
00:59:34,550 --> 00:59:38,350
We got a couple more players and
tally, you've got one of those

1076
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,790
players.
Who is your first offensive key

1077
00:59:40,790 --> 00:59:43,630
player?
Mr. Quan felt, man.

1078
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:46,870
It's kind of like what Sheldon
said.

1079
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:50,270
I mean, when you think about an
X Factor, you know, I don't like

1080
00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:53,310
to compare players a lot of
times because I feel like it

1081
00:59:53,310 --> 00:59:55,710
said it's a month to be
something that they probably

1082
00:59:55,710 --> 01:00:01,150
aren't there themselves.
But I feel like just how I felt

1083
01:00:01,150 --> 01:00:05,070
about Hazelton, Damon Hazelton,
when he came in, he came from a

1084
01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:08,190
lower school, you know, it
wasn't a lot of stuff out there

1085
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:10,110
on him that I really paid
attention to.

1086
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:13,220
I've looked at a lot of
highlights about Allie Jennings,

1087
01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:16,340
which we all kind of know of him
looked at a lot of highlights of

1088
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:19,500
Jalen Lane.
But you don't find a lot of

1089
01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:23,860
highlights about Felton on that.
You know, I've seen some, but

1090
01:00:23,860 --> 01:00:25,740
there's not a whole bunch of
them out there on him.

1091
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:29,260
He came from a smaller school,
but he just has that look to

1092
01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:31,620
him, man.
He looks like he is just, you

1093
01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:34,860
know, kind of kind of different.
It looks like he's he's prepared

1094
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:38,500
to to do some things.
And I mean he's he's six, five,

1095
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:43,700
205 pounds, £210.
I seen him catch a ball in the

1096
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,540
spring game and whoever came
downhill and popped him laid a

1097
01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:49,780
good liquor on him and he fell
forward 5 yards.

1098
01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:53,500
I mean if you can get a wide
receiver that catches the ball

1099
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:57,020
for five yards and falls falls
forward for five yards, that's

1100
01:00:57,020 --> 01:00:59,740
10 yards.
So we do need those possession

1101
01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:06,020
type receivers and I think that
Caleb Smith last year would have

1102
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:09,540
been great in the road that I
think Felton should be in this

1103
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:12,810
year.
But we had him being missed

1104
01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,650
everything at why I received
because we had nobody else to

1105
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:17,210
stretch the field or catch the
ball.

1106
01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:21,010
So Felton is my guy man.
Go watch if y'all haven't go

1107
01:01:21,010 --> 01:01:23,450
watch him, go watch him.
Probably the one of the only

1108
01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:27,530
times you'll see him speak to
the media and he looks like he

1109
01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:31,090
is crazy as can be, which is in
a good way, not in the bad way.

1110
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:34,020
Like he has no nonsense.
It's like that man don't want to

1111
01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:37,460
smile, he just want to play, he.
Just wants to play Grayson.

1112
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:40,940
You also picked one in the wide
receiver room and who's your

1113
01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:44,780
guy?
Yes, Mr. Alex Jennings, probably

1114
01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:49,140
one of the most hyped ACC
receivers going into the 2023

1115
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:52,820
football season, transferred
from Old Dominion University,

1116
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:56,260
who, ironically, we open the
season against In Lane Stadium,

1117
01:01:56,620 --> 01:01:58,500
8:00 PM Eastern.
But who's counting?

1118
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,880
He was all Sunbelt first team.
He led the Monarchs last season

1119
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:09,040
with 54 receptions for 959 yards
and 9 touchdowns.

1120
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,560
He's a hell of a receiver and it
will be very interesting to see

1121
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,720
how he fits into Coach Bowen's
scheme.

1122
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,720
But I can't.
I cannot wait to see this kid in

1123
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,920
Virginia Tech uniform, and I
hope he scores the first

1124
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,800
touchdown against all poetic
justice.

1125
01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:32,260
It would be poetic, Justin, a
kid who probably should have

1126
01:02:32,260 --> 01:02:35,300
been recruited here a long time
ago, finally makes his way home.

1127
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:38,900
And like you said, the thing
about all three of the guys

1128
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:41,460
Y'all mentioned, they all did it
elsewhere.

1129
01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:44,580
Even Felton down at Norfolk
State in his first season last

1130
01:02:44,580 --> 01:02:48,100
year had like 600 yards.
Obviously Lane and Jennings,

1131
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,100
like you just mentioned, Grayson
all Sunbelt.

1132
01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:53,660
He's already a part of a lot of
all teams for this year.

1133
01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:56,140
All right, let's hit to the
running backroom, because

1134
01:02:56,660 --> 01:03:00,480
popular selection.
Sheldon, take it away.

1135
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,080
We have Beshaw Tootin, the
running back transfer from FCS

1136
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,760
North Carolina AMT.
I think people might be sleeping

1137
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,000
on him.
I think that he has a couple of

1138
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,040
really good qualities.
First of all, he's got great

1139
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,760
breakaway speed.
His breakaway numbers at the s s

1140
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,760
level were really good and he's
really hard to tackle.

1141
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,960
Yards after contact numbers also
very good.

1142
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,080
I know that some people might
say, well it's just FCS, but

1143
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,960
those those qualities, being
able to generate your in touch

1144
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,720
of contact actually translate
really well the next level.

1145
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,440
So I wouldn't have too much
concern about that.

1146
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,960
I think he is a bona fide Power
Five talent and I'm really

1147
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,760
excited to see him in this
offense because Tech struggled

1148
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,480
with many things last year
offensively, but chief among

1149
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,640
them was lack of explosive plays
from the running backs.

1150
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,720
Tally, he's on.
He's one of your guys too, man.

1151
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,480
Yeah, well, I think what a lot
of people forget is that when we

1152
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,750
did get him, we stole him from
Boston College.

1153
01:03:54,430 --> 01:03:56,670
He was supposed to be going to
Boston College, I believe, and

1154
01:03:56,670 --> 01:04:00,110
supposed to be on campus.
And somehow he winds up with at

1155
01:04:00,110 --> 01:04:04,310
Virginia Tech.
If anything, if you don't know

1156
01:04:04,310 --> 01:04:07,150
anything about Boston College,
go look at their running backs.

1157
01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:10,590
They recruit certain types of
running backs and if they wanted

1158
01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:13,800
him, I want him.
And then after seeing him now

1159
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,440
and seeing a little bit of tape
of him, looks like he can catch

1160
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,360
the ball out of the backfield.
Like Shelton said, he's got some

1161
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,200
good breakaway speed.
He breaks tackles.

1162
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,840
I mean, he just looks like a
complete running back.

1163
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,000
And I think that that's going to
be good for us to have, you

1164
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,640
know, some different types of
backs instead of having 14 backs

1165
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,600
that all maybe done one thing.
I think now we have 3 to 4

1166
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,360
running backs that kind of all
feed off each other.

1167
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,490
You know, one's good at catching
one's more of a power back, once

1168
01:04:42,490 --> 01:04:47,130
more of a blocking back.
So I feel like our running back

1169
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:51,170
room has come a long way and I'm
going to be excited to watch

1170
01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:55,530
them this year.
Mr. Siegler, one of yours as

1171
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:57,690
well.
Yeah, I'll round it out here and

1172
01:04:57,690 --> 01:05:01,010
Chadley said it the all around
back.

1173
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:03,570
I think we really haven't had
one of those, you know, since

1174
01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:07,370
Herbert stepped away and.
You know, Tuten may be a little

1175
01:05:07,370 --> 01:05:10,290
bit better in the passing game
than Herbert was while during

1176
01:05:10,290 --> 01:05:14,210
his time in Blacksburg.
Don't think he's quite the the

1177
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:17,810
home run specimen that that
Herbert was or or turned out to

1178
01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:20,170
be once he was on campus in
Blacksburg.

1179
01:05:20,570 --> 01:05:23,650
But I like the the the variety
of things he does well.

1180
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:27,570
So when we talk about being able
to break tackles, being able to

1181
01:05:27,610 --> 01:05:30,490
have it have some breakaway
speed to to finish out those

1182
01:05:30,490 --> 01:05:33,530
long runs to to turn those long
runs into touchdowns.

1183
01:05:34,370 --> 01:05:37,930
That's not something we've seen
the last couple years, so I'm

1184
01:05:37,930 --> 01:05:42,490
excited to have that attribute
back in the backfield again and

1185
01:05:42,490 --> 01:05:45,530
especially with him kind of
being 1A1B in the backfield

1186
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:48,210
there with Thomas, I feel like
that's a really good 1-2 punch.

1187
01:05:48,810 --> 01:05:51,530
They they both compliment each
other well, but also when one

1188
01:05:51,530 --> 01:05:54,810
comes off, you're not
necessarily missing a huge.

1189
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:58,570
Piece of a running back skill
set.

1190
01:05:58,610 --> 01:06:02,530
Either they they more or less
have similar attributes.

1191
01:06:02,530 --> 01:06:05,090
I think with Tutin B, you're
probably a little bit better in

1192
01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:06,570
terms of catching out of the
backfield.

1193
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:10,290
Yep, and and and next the truth
about Tutin being the better

1194
01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:14,290
catcher out of the backfield.
But my guy here was Malachi

1195
01:06:14,290 --> 01:06:16,210
Thomas.
And it was more for the reason

1196
01:06:16,210 --> 01:06:19,130
of Malachi has been pretty much
banged up in his career at

1197
01:06:19,130 --> 01:06:22,370
numerous points in time, but
when he's on the field.

1198
01:06:23,410 --> 01:06:25,890
He makes an impact.
The three games he played last

1199
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:27,770
year, he only played three
games.

1200
01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:30,970
Y'all 237 yards from scrimmage,
2 touchdowns.

1201
01:06:30,970 --> 01:06:32,890
He was right under 5 yards to
carry.

1202
01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:36,490
His freshman year he was right
at 5 yards to carry with only

1203
01:06:36,490 --> 01:06:41,010
really 95 plays.
So like you just mentioned, it's

1204
01:06:41,010 --> 01:06:44,690
having the 1A and 1B and now
Tudin is the starter, which I'm

1205
01:06:44,690 --> 01:06:46,170
going to presume that's the
case.

1206
01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:49,410
When you take him off, you have
someone thing about it.

1207
01:06:49,610 --> 01:06:51,330
We're going to put Malachi on
the field.

1208
01:06:51,730 --> 01:06:54,930
Go back to the ore and Humes
days or came off, Humes came in,

1209
01:06:54,930 --> 01:06:56,930
you know, you were still going
to get production, right?

1210
01:06:57,170 --> 01:07:00,130
It wasn't a falloff.
It wasn't a falloff.

1211
01:07:00,410 --> 01:07:02,170
And I don't feel like we've had
that.

1212
01:07:03,610 --> 01:07:05,450
I mean, I feel like it's been 12
years.

1213
01:07:06,570 --> 01:07:08,730
Seriously, I feel like we
haven't had where we can take

1214
01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:11,570
one guy off and immediately say
this guy's going to continue to

1215
01:07:11,570 --> 01:07:13,410
produce.
So I think it's very important

1216
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:17,290
Malachite Thomas produces and
hopefully stays healthy having a

1217
01:07:17,290 --> 01:07:21,350
partner like Basheel Tootin.
All righty, let's move over to

1218
01:07:21,350 --> 01:07:24,950
the offensive line.
And Shelton, me and you agreed

1219
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:27,510
on the next guy, and that's
going to be Parker Clements.

1220
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:31,750
What you got on him?
Yeah, so Parker was a guy that

1221
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:35,030
really kind of fell off a Cliff
last year again, like Kane

1222
01:07:35,030 --> 01:07:39,190
Moore, a very good freshman
season in 2021, but imploded

1223
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:40,750
last year.
We didn't know it at the time,

1224
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:42,350
but he was recovering from
offseason searchers.

1225
01:07:42,350 --> 01:07:44,630
That was, you know, I mean part
of it as well as you're not

1226
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:48,240
being exactly the right.
Fit for the scheme, but for me,

1227
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,760
the recent Joe Parker was mainly
because I think he is the

1228
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,000
biggest bounce back candidate on
the team.

1229
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,080
Just because if we know his
potential, which we saw in 21 as

1230
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,200
a freshman, the fact that now he
is a junior, he's fully healthy.

1231
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,280
You know, he's had, he's, you
know, had a full offseason in

1232
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,600
this offense.
I think he's going to make a

1233
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,640
huge piece of rebuilding this
offensive line.

1234
01:08:08,070 --> 01:08:10,230
And obviously claim that you
know the right tackle position,

1235
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:13,270
that's the spot we obviously you
need, you need your big guys to

1236
01:08:13,470 --> 01:08:15,470
to perform.
So I'm looking forward to see

1237
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:17,029
him have it bounce back here.
Yeah.

1238
01:08:17,029 --> 01:08:18,950
And and and like I said, I'm
with you on this one.

1239
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:21,750
And it was because of that
because what we saw in his red

1240
01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:24,550
shirt freshman year, we saw
really good things.

1241
01:08:24,790 --> 01:08:28,069
And then what happened last
year, I mean we criticized on

1242
01:08:28,069 --> 01:08:31,149
this program, but when you come
to find out, he basically could

1243
01:08:31,149 --> 01:08:35,510
not lift his right arm up.
It was right arm right to block.

1244
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:38,740
It's like, well, obvious.
Obviously if you're an offensive

1245
01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:41,340
line and you don't have the full
use of your arm, you're going to

1246
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:44,420
be significantly worse.
And just the way you know his

1247
01:08:44,420 --> 01:08:47,660
interview looks like he is one
of the better leaders on the

1248
01:08:47,660 --> 01:08:50,460
offensive line.
He looks solid in the spring

1249
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:53,700
game and that's what we want.
We need a steady Eddy over right

1250
01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:58,819
tackle to make some moves to to,
you know, open some holes up.

1251
01:08:59,060 --> 01:09:01,859
So that's why I think Barker
Clements and the fact that like

1252
01:09:01,859 --> 01:09:04,899
you just said, he is the bounce
back candidate now Grayson.

1253
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,000
You're moving to the middle of
the line, right?

1254
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,160
That's right.
That's exactly right.

1255
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,000
I'm going Kaden Moore here.
The center play in in

1256
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,800
Blacksburg.
It's been inconsistent I guess

1257
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:26,120
you could say probably over the
last 10 years we've seen a lot

1258
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,399
of snaps go really high go over
the quarterbacks head.

1259
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,439
We saw it a few times last
season, so.

1260
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:36,430
Just being able to properly snap
the ball, I think it's

1261
01:09:36,430 --> 01:09:39,109
paramount.
And now Kayden, he's an

1262
01:09:39,109 --> 01:09:43,149
upperclassman, he's he's got a
lot of experience under his

1263
01:09:43,149 --> 01:09:46,029
belt.
He made eleven starts at right

1264
01:09:46,029 --> 01:09:51,350
guard last season.
It'll be interesting to to see,

1265
01:09:51,350 --> 01:09:58,030
I guess, how he adjusts, but the
the center play has to be a one

1266
01:09:58,190 --> 01:10:01,510
in 2023.
Just an instrumental part of our

1267
01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:05,910
offense, you know, can't have
any high snaps, so probably the

1268
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:08,390
most outside of the left tackle,
the most important offensive

1269
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:11,110
lineman on the field.
Well, that's funny.

1270
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:13,470
You should mention left tackle
because Brian.

1271
01:10:15,070 --> 01:10:17,470
Yeah, my guy's going to be
Xavier Chaplain.

1272
01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:21,670
He's going to be.
It's such a big, big role the

1273
01:10:21,670 --> 01:10:24,470
left tackle.
So him filling in being able to

1274
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:27,950
protect the quarterbacks blind
side in this case.

1275
01:10:28,620 --> 01:10:31,980
Being able to move some bodies
on the offensive line, being

1276
01:10:31,980 --> 01:10:34,140
able to create some holes,
create some rush lanes for the

1277
01:10:34,140 --> 01:10:38,900
running backs, You know, he's
still a young guy, so having a

1278
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:43,300
young guy step into this role is
always some, you know, there's

1279
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:47,260
some hesitation there, right.
So he's going to be key to me

1280
01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:51,260
because if he can step in there
and take over that role and and

1281
01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:54,380
perform well, that's going to
raise the bar across the

1282
01:10:54,380 --> 01:10:57,980
offensive line and and I think
that could really be.

1283
01:10:59,130 --> 01:11:01,730
A big boom because if we can get
a running game going we never

1284
01:11:01,730 --> 01:11:04,170
really had last year, if we can
get the running game going this

1285
01:11:04,170 --> 01:11:07,330
year, then everything else the
offense does is going to be a

1286
01:11:07,330 --> 01:11:10,010
lot easier.
Yeah, and again, I always go

1287
01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:12,250
back to the Liberty game, Brian,
me and you kind of watched a

1288
01:11:12,250 --> 01:11:16,170
little bit of it, you know,
after the fact to be his first

1289
01:11:16,170 --> 01:11:18,250
collegiate game.
He was playing a pretty good

1290
01:11:18,250 --> 01:11:21,410
player at the left end there and
he didn't do bad.

1291
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:24,770
He got beat a couple times, but
it was like this doesn't look

1292
01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:27,880
like his first collegiate game.
This really looked like a guy

1293
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,440
who was coming off an injury and
had some rust to knock off

1294
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:33,120
because there were a couple
times he got a hold of people

1295
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,840
and he just manhandled them
because he is a big, big guy.

1296
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:43,240
All right, last room of the
offense and it's not the tight

1297
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:48,560
end room, it's the quarterback
room and myself, Grayson and

1298
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,760
Tally, we all are saying Kyron
Drones is one of the key players

1299
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,160
here.
Tally, I'm going to let you lead

1300
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,360
it off, Grayson.
Bet second on this one.

1301
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,000
Go ahead, Tally.
So yeah, I'll say drones, just

1302
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,040
for the fact of last year, you
know, we had Wells as a starting

1303
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,520
quarterback, and no matter what
happened, there was no pressure

1304
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,000
on him that he was coming out of
the game.

1305
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:15,000
You know, nobody, you had nobody
backing him up to put any

1306
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,120
pressure on him.
The coaches didn't even look

1307
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,680
like they wanted to put pressure
on him.

1308
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,680
So if Wells like the starter, I
know we're going to announce

1309
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,970
soon.
If Wells is the starter, I feel

1310
01:12:25,970 --> 01:12:30,250
like he's probably been pushed
in the offseason a little bit

1311
01:12:30,250 --> 01:12:32,770
more than he has been in any
other offseason.

1312
01:12:33,090 --> 01:12:37,090
And also, you know, he'll have
that, he'll have that person

1313
01:12:37,090 --> 01:12:39,410
behind him.
That'll be, hey, if you don't go

1314
01:12:39,410 --> 01:12:42,530
out and perform because the
knock that's been on Wells is

1315
01:12:42,610 --> 01:12:45,570
him throwing picks on him,
turning the ball over.

1316
01:12:45,770 --> 01:12:48,130
So if he turns the ball over, I
mean, you got to take him out

1317
01:12:48,130 --> 01:12:50,890
for a series at least and see
what you have.

1318
01:12:51,170 --> 01:12:53,170
Now.
On the other hand, Kyron Drones

1319
01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:57,560
may be the starter, he may be he
may be who Prague goes with to

1320
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,640
start the game or start the
season, and he just brings a

1321
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,320
different dynamic to the
football team.

1322
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,280
He is a little bit bigger guy
than Wells is.

1323
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,840
He can run a little bit better,
but we haven't seen a lot of

1324
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,840
him.
So all those things just make me

1325
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,920
think he's the the the guy to
keep an eye on what he does is

1326
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,040
going to, you know, help us in a
sense.

1327
01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:26,750
I see Steve Bryce's question
here and I think this is a great

1328
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:31,790
lead in for my.
My take I guess on drones is how

1329
01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:34,710
short is the Grant Wells lease
for the first three games.

1330
01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:38,710
I think it's very short.
I I I think if he is the

1331
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:42,070
starting quarterback and he goes
out there against Old Dominion

1332
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:45,190
and can't produce and really
make a statement in that game.

1333
01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:47,190
I mean Thrones is going to be
the next man up.

1334
01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:51,030
Everything that tally just said,
his gospel in the fact that, I

1335
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:55,850
mean Grant Wells was.
There was a stark gap between

1336
01:13:55,850 --> 01:14:01,730
him being the best guy last year
and his backup, and now with

1337
01:14:01,730 --> 01:14:04,970
that gap is very small for all
we know.

1338
01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:10,410
But you know, there's not a lot
of tape that exists on drones at

1339
01:14:10,410 --> 01:14:12,450
Baylor.
He did play in five games last

1340
01:14:12,450 --> 01:14:17,090
year, completed 14 of 23 passes
for 219 passing yards, and he

1341
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:22,480
had one passing touchdown.
There is a YouTube video of him

1342
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:25,720
and it shows his ability to
scramble and whatnot.

1343
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,880
And I will say this, if you look
on Baylor message boards and the

1344
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:36,240
Baylor fan base, they were
devastated when this kid entered

1345
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,760
the transfer portal.
They were like, Oh my gosh,

1346
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,160
drones is in the portal.
The sky is falling.

1347
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,720
That makes me feel great about
him.

1348
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:49,000
So after three games, drones
might be the guy for the rest of

1349
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,840
the season.
There's a very good chance.

1350
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,040
Yep.
The leash is definitely going to

1351
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,480
be short there, and to me what
it is.

1352
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:57,880
You mentioned the athleticism,
how you can make the throws on

1353
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,640
the run and all that stuff.
Those are things that are never

1354
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,640
seen in practice.
Those are things that are never

1355
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,720
going to be seen in practice.
It has to be seen on the field.

1356
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,040
I love what Pete Be said last
week from too deep on the big

1357
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,760
panel.
It's 2019 again.

1358
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,480
You have a returning starter who
has a propensity to make really

1359
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,840
big errors.
With the big arm.

1360
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:24,560
Moments with a big arm and you
have the unknown backup who is

1361
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,680
athletic if if you're not live
in scrimmages, and I know you

1362
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,600
can't do that because you can't
risk the health of the

1363
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,680
quarterback, you have to turn
them loose in game.

1364
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,240
And the question is, you made a
good point there, Grayson, about

1365
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:43,660
ODU if he doesn't light it up,
but let's say we're up 21. 24

1366
01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:45,460
three And he's not lighting it
up.

1367
01:15:45,460 --> 01:15:48,300
It's more Tootin and Malachi and
the defense is just crushing.

1368
01:15:50,420 --> 01:15:53,540
Why not turn him loose?
And then if he goes out there

1369
01:15:53,540 --> 01:15:57,220
and absolutely performs to a
much higher level, you might not

1370
01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:59,500
even be weak.
Two, we might be seeing drones

1371
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:04,100
start there All right so tailor
the tape real quick for the

1372
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:08,060
offensive side of the ball.
Brian went Jalen Lane.

1373
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:10,860
Brian went the hell Tootin.
Brian went Xavier more.

1374
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:16,740
Shelton's on with Lane, Tooten
and Parker Clements, Tally, Quan

1375
01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:23,140
Felton, Shell, Tooten and Kyron.
Drones, Grayson, Ollie Jennings,

1376
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:27,860
Kayden Moore the center, and
Kyron Jones and myself, Kyron

1377
01:16:27,860 --> 01:16:30,780
Drones, Parker Clements and
Malik Thomas.

1378
01:16:31,660 --> 01:16:33,380
I'll do it just like I did last
time.

1379
01:16:34,020 --> 01:16:35,260
Who's you want on the cutting
room floor?

1380
01:16:35,260 --> 01:16:39,920
Brian Siegler.
I-1 on the cutting room floor.

1381
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,640
You know, I got to do it.
Too de Quan, right?

1382
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,240
Yes, I need you.
All right.

1383
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:45,840
De Quan.
Right.

1384
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,800
Tally.
Who's yours?

1385
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,080
So I guess that's that's tough,
man, because we got so much

1386
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,400
going around, but I'd probably
say I don't have a certain

1387
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,080
person.
But the 4th wide receiver, you

1388
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,960
know, whoever that 4th wide
receiver is, you know we've

1389
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,920
heard about Aidan Green.
We've heard.

1390
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,950
Gosnell of course Godsdale but
the the the small kid.

1391
01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:10,230
Turner.
Bradshaw.

1392
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:13,550
Turner, Bradshaw.
You know Tucker Holloway.

1393
01:17:13,550 --> 01:17:17,190
We've heard about all these all
these wide receivers that last

1394
01:17:17,190 --> 01:17:20,230
and in in in Lofton.
You know what is he going to do.

1395
01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:24,950
So just my we know kind of what
we have in some of the wide

1396
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:29,070
receivers but how are those guys
pushing for playing time going

1397
01:17:29,070 --> 01:17:32,510
to come in and perform.
So short answer is the the 4th

1398
01:17:32,510 --> 01:17:34,270
wide receiver. 4th wide receiver
Grayson.

1399
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,880
Bryce Duke all.
Right.

1400
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,240
BDB, yeah.
Sheldon.

1401
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,720
I'll go Kaden more.
I think playing that that

1402
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,320
center's fight is going to be a
big, big role.

1403
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,400
All right, my sort of one I left
on the cutting room floor is

1404
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,280
going to be Benji Gosnell.
Benji Gosnell wasn't a little

1405
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,000
tight end talent.
And you know, you get Gallo,

1406
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,360
kind of the entrenched starter.
You know, steady Eddie.

1407
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,320
Don't do anything great.
Don't do anything bad.

1408
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:09,160
You got right the Joker.
But Gosnell has that ability.

1409
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,800
You look at Gallo and you look
at Benji Gosnell size.

1410
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,480
Gosnell has the chance to be on
the field every single play

1411
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,960
because he's athletic, he can
block, he's big.

1412
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:22,280
So there in mine, Alrighty.
That was the first half.

1413
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:28,650
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1417
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1423
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1424
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1425
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This is something I've always

1426
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Now back to the episode.
All righty.

1448
01:19:59,620 --> 01:20:02,700
So now, boys, we got to lay our
money on the line here about

1449
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:05,580
what we think the hokey season
record will be.

1450
01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:09,660
And here's that caveat.
The caveat is the new piece of

1451
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:12,900
jail quit and nobody majorly
gets hurt.

1452
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,200
Or maybe significant, numerous
injuries.

1453
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,720
So let's start the first four
games of the season.

1454
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,080
They're Old Dominion, Purdue,
Rutgers and Marshalls Shelton

1455
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,560
out of the gate.
How are we starting?

1456
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,000
It'll start two and two and go
to use a win.

1457
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:34,000
I think Purdue is a win by the
skin of our teeth.

1458
01:20:35,020 --> 01:20:37,180
Rutgers is a loss.
I feel like that's going to be

1459
01:20:37,180 --> 01:20:39,900
weird game playing up in that
stadium with not a lot of fans.

1460
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:42,500
Well, I know that a lot of be
maroon and orange fans, that's

1461
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:46,820
for sure.
But and then Marshall, the way

1462
01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:49,420
think about the Marshalls game
was like, we are 6040 underdogs.

1463
01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:52,340
So it's hard for me to kind of
process that.

1464
01:20:52,620 --> 01:20:55,980
Like if we lose that game, like
people think it's some shock,

1465
01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:58,020
but like we'd be favored to
lose.

1466
01:20:58,420 --> 01:21:01,700
So I don't know, but I think
we'll probably just Marshall and

1467
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,660
start two and two.
We'll bump in the road there.

1468
01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:05,610
But that's how I see it.
All righty.

1469
01:21:06,050 --> 01:21:09,290
Brian, what do you see?
I'm going three and one here.

1470
01:21:10,210 --> 01:21:14,690
I'm going to take dubs to open
the the the season at home.

1471
01:21:15,250 --> 01:21:19,450
I think we're going to get a
weird loss up in Piscataway, NJ

1472
01:21:19,570 --> 01:21:21,530
to to the Rutgers Scarlet
Knights.

1473
01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:25,890
Their defense kind of keeps us a
little bit in check there and it

1474
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:27,770
gets a little awkward.
I think we pulled a little bit

1475
01:21:27,770 --> 01:21:30,770
of an upset in Marshall.
I think that's going to be a big

1476
01:21:30,770 --> 01:21:34,290
statement game, as weird as that
sounds.

1477
01:21:34,940 --> 01:21:37,740
Going on the road and and and
taking care of Marshall, that's

1478
01:21:37,740 --> 01:21:40,740
a solid program out there.
You're playing at their place.

1479
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:43,100
If you if you can pull that one
out that's that's a pretty solid

1480
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:44,860
win.
So I think we pulled that one

1481
01:21:44,860 --> 01:21:47,700
out and wrap up that first four,
three and one.

1482
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:50,340
All right, he's going three and
one tally.

1483
01:21:51,140 --> 01:21:54,820
Yep, I got my, I got my, my
schedule with my little notches

1484
01:21:54,820 --> 01:21:57,100
on it here.
You know how everybody makes

1485
01:21:57,100 --> 01:21:58,540
those.
And I've got, I've had it at

1486
01:21:58,540 --> 01:22:03,340
3:00 and 1:00 for a while.
So all the million win Purdue a

1487
01:22:03,340 --> 01:22:06,830
win.
Rutgers are lost and Marshall

1488
01:22:06,830 --> 01:22:09,350
will win.
I don't know why everybody wants

1489
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:12,550
us to lose the to Rutgers.
I don't know why I'm got us down

1490
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:14,470
to lose.
I really want to go for it.

1491
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:17,310
No.
But it's like my PTSD won't let

1492
01:22:17,310 --> 01:22:19,590
me choose that.
So that's why I'm at 3:00 and

1493
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:21,990
1:00 for that first one game.
All right, Grayson.

1494
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:26,270
What about you, man?
Starting the Season 3 and 1, Old

1495
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:30,270
Dominion emphatic win in Lane
Stadium.

1496
01:22:30,430 --> 01:22:35,890
It better freaking be.
Purdue I'm I'm going to say

1497
01:22:35,890 --> 01:22:37,330
we're going to win that one as
well.

1498
01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:41,210
At home, I'm in the same campus.
Shelton by the hair on our

1499
01:22:41,210 --> 01:22:44,370
chinny chin chin.
Rutgers.

1500
01:22:44,370 --> 01:22:46,170
I think we're going to get a win
in Jersey.

1501
01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:51,410
Lot of lot of Hokies going to
that one and then Marshall.

1502
01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:53,170
I think it's going to be a
punishment game.

1503
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:54,610
I think we're going to lose to
Marshall.

1504
01:22:56,210 --> 01:23:00,410
Just for the sole purpose of us
traveling there, which should?

1505
01:23:00,650 --> 01:23:04,570
Never ever have happened or been
orchestrated.

1506
01:23:04,570 --> 01:23:08,930
This is what you have wrought.
We will reap what we sow and

1507
01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:12,170
like Old Dominion last year,
we'll go there and lose.

1508
01:23:12,170 --> 01:23:15,730
So yeah, don't feel great about
Marshall.

1509
01:23:15,730 --> 01:23:18,570
I don't love the optics of that
whole situation at all.

1510
01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:22,890
All right.
So we got two and 2/3 and 1/3

1511
01:23:22,890 --> 01:23:26,900
and 1/3 and one.
Me and Thomas Train are 100%

1512
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:30,140
together on this.
We're going for and up.

1513
01:23:31,060 --> 01:23:33,580
We're going for and up.
We're going to smoke, OD you.

1514
01:23:33,580 --> 01:23:37,900
Curtis said it.
Curtis has the kool-aid in hand.

1515
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:41,980
No, I got the I got the maroon
and orange glasses and hat on

1516
01:23:41,980 --> 01:23:43,180
tonight.
Four.

1517
01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:45,580
And oh, and here's why OD you.
I do think we smoked them.

1518
01:23:45,940 --> 01:23:49,340
They are a shitty, shitty team.
We're going to so shitty that

1519
01:23:49,340 --> 01:23:51,470
next week.
I can't even really get a

1520
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:53,670
preview together because they
are that bad.

1521
01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:56,390
I can't find anything written.
I can't find data on them.

1522
01:23:56,630 --> 01:23:58,270
If anybody has any, please
e-mail me.

1523
01:23:58,790 --> 01:24:02,550
I think Purdue, the rebuild,
especially along their defensive

1524
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:06,030
line, is huge.
They are losing four key players

1525
01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:08,710
not coming back.
I turn over to a new style of

1526
01:24:08,710 --> 01:24:10,590
offense and a new quarterback
there.

1527
01:24:12,030 --> 01:24:15,270
And then Rutgers.
Rutgers is.

1528
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:18,630
I go to Brett's preview.
Rutgers is below us on Brett's

1529
01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:21,730
preview.
Got to be that.

1530
01:24:22,170 --> 01:24:24,250
And here's the thing.
Everybody's scared of Marshall.

1531
01:24:24,250 --> 01:24:26,650
They were nine and four last
year, man.

1532
01:24:26,690 --> 01:24:27,930
They're doing all this big
stuff.

1533
01:24:27,930 --> 01:24:31,050
I have a question.
Where's their 1500 yard rush

1534
01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:34,770
here right now?
Anybody know where he is?

1535
01:24:35,850 --> 01:24:39,210
Khalil Levry got cut by the San
Francisco 49ers just earlier

1536
01:24:39,210 --> 01:24:42,140
this week.
They don't have a 1500 yard

1537
01:24:42,140 --> 01:24:43,580
rusher.
They struggled at quarterback.

1538
01:24:43,580 --> 01:24:47,500
They barely got 1500 yards
passing last year, 10 touchdown,

1539
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:49,700
6 interceptions.
They do have a good defense.

1540
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:52,620
I think that will be the
toughest of the four games, but

1541
01:24:52,620 --> 01:24:54,860
we will come out by the hair of
our chinny chin chin.

1542
01:24:55,420 --> 01:24:58,700
So that's where I'm at.
All right, let's flip to the

1543
01:24:58,980 --> 01:25:01,860
middle part of the season.
One of the rougher stretches

1544
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:04,900
we're talking it Florida State,
Wake and Syracuse.

1545
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:06,540
And I'm going to let you leave
this one, Brian.

1546
01:25:08,180 --> 01:25:10,220
We are going two and two in this
stretch.

1547
01:25:10,220 --> 01:25:14,740
All right, I'm I'm thinking
we're taking losses to Pitt.

1548
01:25:14,740 --> 01:25:17,660
FSU.
I'm hoping that Pitt is a a

1549
01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:21,620
dogfight battle.
I don't want to be embarrassed

1550
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:27,260
by fucking Pitt anymore.
That's like, there's nothing

1551
01:25:27,260 --> 01:25:31,500
worse than losing in blowout
fashion to the Pitt to the

1552
01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:34,020
Pittsburgh Panthers.
It's just it pisses me off.

1553
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,840
Florida State.
I I want to be competitive.

1554
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,760
I want to be competitive for
four quarters.

1555
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,560
They're probably one of the at
least probably 8 best teams in

1556
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,960
the country.
You can argue there's they're

1557
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,600
one of the four best teams in
the country.

1558
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,920
I want to see us put four
quarters together against them

1559
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,520
and give them all they want.
I think Wake has lost too much

1560
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,800
to be competitive this year.
I think they're going to be a.

1561
01:25:58,410 --> 01:26:01,890
Maybe A5 win team this year.
I think they are a beatable

1562
01:26:01,890 --> 01:26:03,690
team.
I think you know, losing their

1563
01:26:03,690 --> 01:26:06,290
quarterback, losing two of their
best wide receivers.

1564
01:26:06,530 --> 01:26:10,050
I don't think they have the
juice to score enough points to

1565
01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:12,370
beat us this year.
And in Syracuse they're

1566
01:26:12,370 --> 01:26:15,010
replacing a big time running
back.

1567
01:26:16,290 --> 01:26:19,650
They were already kind of a
middling team that would lose

1568
01:26:19,650 --> 01:26:22,530
some some head scratches, then
occasionally pop up and.

1569
01:26:22,930 --> 01:26:24,370
And be the team you don't
expect.

1570
01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:27,730
I think they're definitely right
for for a loss there on Thursday

1571
01:26:27,730 --> 01:26:30,850
night, so give me two and two
tally.

1572
01:26:30,850 --> 01:26:33,210
What about you for those middle
stretch of the season?

1573
01:26:33,650 --> 01:26:36,170
Yeah, I had it right at at 2:00
and 2:00 as well.

1574
01:26:37,530 --> 01:26:42,730
Exactly what Brian had lost the
Pit, lost the Yeah, I seen Pete

1575
01:26:42,730 --> 01:26:44,890
put that on.
Lost the Pit.

1576
01:26:44,890 --> 01:26:47,450
Lost the Florida State.
Win against Wake Forest.

1577
01:26:47,450 --> 01:26:51,230
Win against Syracuse now.
I know we still got to finish

1578
01:26:51,230 --> 01:26:53,870
this, but I'm thinking, and I
got too much going on in my head

1579
01:26:54,230 --> 01:26:56,510
because I was so close to going
four and old.

1580
01:26:56,910 --> 01:27:00,270
But if I go four and old and I
start doing too much in my mind

1581
01:27:00,510 --> 01:27:03,710
and I get too excited because I
feel like if we're four and old

1582
01:27:04,030 --> 01:27:06,950
and then we play Pitt, then we
beat Pitt at home.

1583
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:09,630
Because every game that we play
pit for the most part is a

1584
01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:12,430
dogfight.
You know, even last year it was

1585
01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:17,470
for us to be so bad, like
besides a couple of plays we

1586
01:27:17,470 --> 01:27:19,550
were with Pitt until the fourth
quarter.

1587
01:27:20,110 --> 01:27:24,630
I think it was like 39 to 29 or
31 to 29, something like that,

1588
01:27:24,910 --> 01:27:28,830
maybe 33 to 29.
So I feel like if we're four and

1589
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:32,630
old and we beat Pitt, I mean and
we and we play Pitt, we beat

1590
01:27:32,630 --> 01:27:34,870
them.
And then you go into the Florida

1591
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:38,870
State game undefeated.
See, I can't even tell you don't

1592
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:41,510
talk himself in the 12 and no,
if he don't, I.

1593
01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:44,950
Can't even wrap my head around
being like that because I'm a

1594
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:48,950
Virginia Tech fan, so I'm going
to just stay calm and say 2:00

1595
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:51,620
and 2:00.
You know I'm gonna say right

1596
01:27:51,620 --> 01:27:55,020
where I'm at, but all that stuff
is going in my mind and I really

1597
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:58,180
wish Curtis had in some of you
guys over here in the comments.

1598
01:27:58,460 --> 01:28:00,660
Fuck you.
I wish you hadn't say it for it.

1599
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:04,020
No, because you get my brain to
work in and then I start staying

1600
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:05,940
up all night and looking at
clips.

1601
01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:08,540
But go ahead.
Family going full true at Harris

1602
01:28:08,540 --> 01:28:09,540
on us here.
Yeah, that's true.

1603
01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:10,980
Truly is.
All right.

1604
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:13,100
Shelton, what about you in the
middle portion here?

1605
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:18,380
Pittsburgh Last three years
Virgin Tech has been outscored

1606
01:28:18,380 --> 01:28:22,380
by.
By 70 points last three games

1607
01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:25,100
since we beat them in 2019.
I want to beat them bad, but

1608
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:27,100
it's it's just a bad matchup.
I never feel good about that

1609
01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:28,860
game, especially if you know
they're Qb's.

1610
01:28:28,860 --> 01:28:31,260
Clicking.
That's an L Florida State's an L

1611
01:28:31,540 --> 01:28:34,020
but young team bounces back,
finds a way to win against Lake

1612
01:28:34,020 --> 01:28:37,020
Forest and takes care of
business against Syracuse, Who

1613
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:39,340
loses?
Both their top coordinators and

1614
01:28:39,340 --> 01:28:42,620
their top RB get back to even at
4:00 and 4:00.

1615
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:46,540
All right, Grayson's guys four
and four through the first eight

1616
01:28:46,540 --> 01:28:47,740
games.
What about Grayson?

1617
01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:51,060
Win Bush.
I mean, we're kind of all on the

1618
01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:55,540
same page here.
You know, the biggest op on this

1619
01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:57,940
schedule, The Pittsburgh
Panthers.

1620
01:28:58,300 --> 01:29:01,260
Pat and our doozy can kick all
the rocks.

1621
01:29:01,660 --> 01:29:05,540
That dude sucks.
We're going to lose that game.

1622
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:07,860
They're probably going to kick
our ass.

1623
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:10,420
They're just better than we are.
That sucks.

1624
01:29:10,420 --> 01:29:14,500
But it's it's also the truth.
Florida State.

1625
01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:18,610
We're going to lose.
But that game I feel like is

1626
01:29:18,610 --> 01:29:20,410
just going to be must see
television.

1627
01:29:20,490 --> 01:29:24,970
I feel like that's going to be a
very the the Nielsen ratings are

1628
01:29:24,970 --> 01:29:26,850
going to be very high.
A lot of people are going to

1629
01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:29,810
tune into that football game and
for bragging rights I got some

1630
01:29:29,810 --> 01:29:33,130
Noel friends out here in Los
Angeles who I'd love to talk

1631
01:29:33,130 --> 01:29:38,010
that shit to Wake Forest.
I'm I think it was Tally who

1632
01:29:38,010 --> 01:29:39,490
said it.
They lost too much to be

1633
01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:42,010
competitive and that game's at
home.

1634
01:29:42,370 --> 01:29:47,290
So, yeah, Homecoming, so.
I feel good about that.

1635
01:29:47,290 --> 01:29:49,730
And then Syracuse, Come on,
gentlemen, Thursday night, get

1636
01:29:49,730 --> 01:29:52,290
the hell out of town.
It's going to be 1999 vibes up

1637
01:29:52,290 --> 01:29:55,050
in there.
Let's beat them 62 to 0 and be

1638
01:29:55,050 --> 01:29:58,250
crazy.
Yeah, Thursday night in

1639
01:29:58,250 --> 01:30:01,010
Blacksburg, that place lane's
going to be rocking.

1640
01:30:01,770 --> 01:30:04,210
We're leaving there with a W
Alrighty.

1641
01:30:04,690 --> 01:30:07,650
Alright, so I'm, I'm, I'm coming
back to Earth now, so I'm going

1642
01:30:07,650 --> 01:30:10,850
to take the hat off and the
maroon glasses and the arms is

1643
01:30:10,850 --> 01:30:11,610
off.
Oh shit.

1644
01:30:12,270 --> 01:30:14,470
I'm coming back to Earth.
We're going two and two in this

1645
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:17,550
stretch.
But unlike all of y'all, we are

1646
01:30:17,550 --> 01:30:20,310
going to beat Pitt in Lane
Stadium.

1647
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:25,070
We're going to beat Pitt.
Djorkovic is one and two versus

1648
01:30:25,070 --> 01:30:29,790
the Hokies in his career.
The defense for Pat and Arduzi

1649
01:30:29,790 --> 01:30:33,030
will regress.
They will be a top 60 defense,

1650
01:30:33,070 --> 01:30:36,910
not a top 20 defense.
We will lose to Florida State.

1651
01:30:37,490 --> 01:30:40,370
I think we will be competitive,
but I think that game is going

1652
01:30:40,370 --> 01:30:43,850
to essentially do must for Wake
Forest to be the first time we

1653
01:30:43,850 --> 01:30:45,890
lose all year.
We're going to come back the

1654
01:30:45,890 --> 01:30:50,530
next week not play a good Wake
team, but we know Wake is well

1655
01:30:50,530 --> 01:30:53,930
coached regardless.
You can crap on Dave Clausen all

1656
01:30:53,930 --> 01:30:54,930
you want.
He's going to have them

1657
01:30:54,930 --> 01:30:56,650
prepared.
I think we're going to come

1658
01:30:56,650 --> 01:30:57,570
over.
It's going to be a hangover

1659
01:30:57,570 --> 01:30:58,850
game.
We're going to lose that game.

1660
01:30:58,930 --> 01:31:00,290
Then we're going to get a 10 day
break.

1661
01:31:00,290 --> 01:31:02,850
We're going to get ahead, right?
And we are going to smash

1662
01:31:02,850 --> 01:31:05,300
Syracuse.
Sheldon, you said it earlier.

1663
01:31:05,300 --> 01:31:07,540
Sean Tucker's about to be the
number one running back for the

1664
01:31:07,540 --> 01:31:10,700
Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
He literally was there offense

1665
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:13,260
the last few years.
When he went, they went.

1666
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:16,300
When he didn't, they lost.
He's no longer on that team.

1667
01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:20,260
So get me two and two for the
middle stretch of the season

1668
01:31:20,380 --> 01:31:24,420
heading into November.
We got BC, we got Louisville, we

1669
01:31:24,420 --> 01:31:29,570
got NC State, and we got UVA.
Who we leading here?

1670
01:31:29,570 --> 01:31:31,050
Tally?
You get to lead this one because

1671
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:33,090
you're actually traveling to one
of these games.

1672
01:31:33,090 --> 01:31:35,330
He is heading to Louisville in
November.

1673
01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:37,210
Yeah, supposed to be going to
Louisville.

1674
01:31:37,210 --> 01:31:40,250
I already got my room booked.
I may not make it to the game

1675
01:31:40,250 --> 01:31:42,450
because I'm probably going to be
doing that Bourbon Trail and

1676
01:31:42,490 --> 01:31:45,930
that will not fare too well.
But anyway.

1677
01:31:46,370 --> 01:31:50,690
So I got actually losing to
Louisville got us losing to

1678
01:31:50,690 --> 01:31:55,090
Louisville.
I got us beating Boston College.

1679
01:31:55,730 --> 01:31:58,690
I got us losing to North
Carolina State and then, of

1680
01:31:58,690 --> 01:32:04,970
course, beating Virginia.
Alrighty, Grayson, you go next.

1681
01:32:04,970 --> 01:32:10,250
What you got here?
Boston College in Chestnut Hill

1682
01:32:10,250 --> 01:32:12,890
in the cold.
Don't like the optics of that.

1683
01:32:12,890 --> 01:32:14,610
I'm.
I think the Eagles get us.

1684
01:32:14,610 --> 01:32:17,210
We're going to lose that game.
Louisville.

1685
01:32:17,490 --> 01:32:21,250
I don't like that one either.
I just think we're kind of, I

1686
01:32:21,250 --> 01:32:23,410
think, the front half of the
season.

1687
01:32:23,870 --> 01:32:26,430
We're going to come out guns
blazing, but in the back half

1688
01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:28,590
we're going to realize, you
know, we still are a growing

1689
01:32:28,590 --> 01:32:30,270
team and we might gas out a
little bit.

1690
01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:32,910
So don't love the game in
Louisville either.

1691
01:32:32,990 --> 01:32:36,550
I think the the Cardinals get
that one and then Brennan

1692
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:43,110
Armstrong, North Carolina State,
the Wolfpack with him at QBI

1693
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:46,270
don't like that one either.
I I think that the Wolfpack

1694
01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:51,790
beats us at home and then we're
going to be UVAUVA is.

1695
01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:54,270
They're in a tough spot.
I don't know what they're doing

1696
01:32:54,270 --> 01:32:58,710
over there in Charlottesville,
but coach Tony Elliott is it.

1697
01:32:58,750 --> 01:33:00,310
It looks like he's having a hard
time.

1698
01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:03,710
But I I think that that game
should be an emphatic win in

1699
01:33:03,710 --> 01:33:06,230
Charlottesville.
I wish you were in Blacksburg,

1700
01:33:06,230 --> 01:33:09,630
but obviously with the tragedy
last year, very, very sad.

1701
01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:13,390
But travel back to
Charlottesville and get a big

1702
01:33:13,390 --> 01:33:14,990
dub.
There we go.

1703
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:18,150
Sheldon, what about you the last
four of the season?

1704
01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:24,940
I'm going two and two.
I'll take actually I didn't

1705
01:33:24,940 --> 01:33:27,500
think about this one.
I don't OK I'm not going to

1706
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:30,900
predict the.
I'm just saying to it too like I

1707
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:34,540
know in my brain, in my brain
what this seems directable be.

1708
01:33:35,060 --> 01:33:37,860
I think they'll definitely be
UVA though and my UVA is they

1709
01:33:37,860 --> 01:33:41,020
were worse than us last year
which is kind of hard to do.

1710
01:33:42,980 --> 01:33:47,340
Their offense, their offense, it
was kind of inverted from

1711
01:33:47,340 --> 01:33:49,060
previous year where they fell
off a Cliff offensively.

1712
01:33:49,060 --> 01:33:51,480
Much better defensively though.
I lose some key defensive

1713
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:53,760
pieces.
This is a clear rebuilding team.

1714
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:55,800
They're starting a Monmouth
transfer at QB.

1715
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,520
I think this is a this is a win
for BT and I will keep that cup

1716
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,720
for at least another year,
Brian.

1717
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,600
I'm going two and two down the
stretch here.

1718
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:11,520
I I like us against Boston
College, even even in the cold

1719
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,360
up there in Chestnut Hill, I
don't like us in Louisville.

1720
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,440
NC State's going to be be a
loss.

1721
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,640
And then we take care of
business at UVA.

1722
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,040
We close it out with a with the
W Tony Elliott right now has the

1723
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,960
opposite of what juices whatever
the opposite of juices that

1724
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,680
that's what's going on in
Charlottesville right now.

1725
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,360
Yeah I mean it it's it's like he
can't seem to get out of his own

1726
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,920
way.
The recruiting's in the in the

1727
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:43,440
in the shitter you know they
lost probably their all their

1728
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,960
best defenders are playing on
another team this year from last

1729
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,780
year so.
You know, we talked about how

1730
01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:51,660
much of A of a of a flip that
the defense did last year.

1731
01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:54,380
I don't think you're going to
see that carry over into into

1732
01:34:54,380 --> 01:34:57,780
2023.
And you know they lost some key

1733
01:34:57,780 --> 01:35:00,540
pieces on offense.
They're bringing in a transfer

1734
01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:04,180
quarterback from Monmouth.
Apparently he's being pushed by

1735
01:35:04,220 --> 01:35:10,900
a true freshman in fall camp.
So I don't know if that is an

1736
01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:13,660
indictment on their transfer
quarterback or a, you know, a

1737
01:35:13,660 --> 01:35:15,260
big boost to their true
freshman.

1738
01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:16,910
But.
It's probably not the best

1739
01:35:16,910 --> 01:35:20,390
optics for a team that's trying
to to put something together

1740
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:24,550
after how much they lost.
So I like I like two and two

1741
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:29,110
here when at BC2L's at
Louisville and NC State and then

1742
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:30,830
a big W there to close without a
UVA.

1743
01:35:30,830 --> 01:35:34,030
All right I'm going to take the
Shelton route on this boys.

1744
01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:38,230
We're two and two.
I have not went crazy again and

1745
01:35:38,230 --> 01:35:40,150
brought the hat and brought the
glasses back out.

1746
01:35:40,150 --> 01:35:43,270
We're two and two but I'm going
to predict just one of the two

1747
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:45,970
victories.
We're going to be UVA the other

1748
01:35:45,970 --> 01:35:49,250
three games.
I think you look at those three

1749
01:35:49,530 --> 01:35:51,850
and I like what somebody said
here, Thomas, I'm going to bring

1750
01:35:51,850 --> 01:35:53,770
you back in cuz me and you are
on this.

1751
01:35:54,290 --> 01:35:57,530
NC State does sort of play like
shit when they get numbers next

1752
01:35:57,530 --> 01:36:01,010
to their game.
See 2022 when they damn near

1753
01:36:01,010 --> 01:36:05,690
lost to us.
So the other three games I can't

1754
01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:09,290
throw a dart at right now, but I
can see us getting at least one

1755
01:36:09,290 --> 01:36:12,880
of those two games.
But definitely UVA.

1756
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,320
And I got a feeling UVA, it
might be a bad beat down Brian.

1757
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,640
We might have to get in the car
that Saturday and drive up there

1758
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,560
because there will be tickets
for like Nichols.

1759
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,480
Honest to God truth.
I'm down.

1760
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,160
I'll stand on the hill and yell
at some people like I did back

1761
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,400
in 99.
There you go.

1762
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,280
All right, let's do a quick tale
of the tape.

1763
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,800
Shelton.
Six and six.

1764
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,520
He has us bowling.
Brian.

1765
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:36,280
Tally Grayson, seven and five.
And yes, I am the optimistic

1766
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,640
cokie at 8:00 and 4:00 in this
panel.

1767
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:40,520
Now I'm going to remove the
caveat.

1768
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,640
Let's say some things don't go
right real quick, and I'll start

1769
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,160
with this one.
I think the floor for this team

1770
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:51,840
is five.
I think ODUI think Rutgers are

1771
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:57,160
definites, and I can see at
least getting three more wins

1772
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,680
with the remaining other teams.
Who wants to go first?

1773
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,040
I will say I did have 6:00 and
6:00.

1774
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:11,440
Just to just to be clear, yeah,
that's at least what I have.

1775
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:13,000
I remember maybe.
I know you went three and one to

1776
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,840
begin with.
You're right.

1777
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,600
OK, Never mind.
I'm.

1778
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,840
I'm with you, Curtis.
I think the floor is five games.

1779
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:27,080
It kind of has to be 5 games.
You have to win at least two

1780
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:32,120
more than you did last year.
I think if we can't get wins

1781
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:38,370
over ODU Purdue.
Rutgers, at least one, a CC team

1782
01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:42,410
and UVA on Thanksgiving weekend.
That's a problem.

1783
01:37:43,770 --> 01:37:48,410
If if you can't get that, that's
that's an issue.

1784
01:37:48,410 --> 01:37:51,730
And so, yeah, there's there's
your floor, but I mean, you got

1785
01:37:51,730 --> 01:37:54,130
to win more than three and you
got to win more than four.

1786
01:37:55,930 --> 01:37:58,530
I agree.
I mean I'm, I'm same way.

1787
01:37:58,530 --> 01:38:02,970
I think the floor is five, five
games, which is crazy.

1788
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:04,990
Because I want to ask a
question, but I'm going to wait

1789
01:38:04,990 --> 01:38:08,310
till everybody goes here.
But I'll say that the floor has

1790
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:11,630
to be 5 from just looking at the
schedule and games.

1791
01:38:13,150 --> 01:38:15,510
Yeah, I think you can't really
come out with the, with the

1792
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:18,110
schedule we have, with some of
the matchups that we have right

1793
01:38:18,110 --> 01:38:20,710
out the gate.
It's got, it's got to be 5.

1794
01:38:20,710 --> 01:38:24,790
I'm with everybody else here.
You know you need to at least be

1795
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:27,390
two and two.
In those first four you need to

1796
01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:30,630
at least win, You know, 2ACC
games.

1797
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:36,280
And you got to go ahead and and
and kick the shit out of UVAI

1798
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,720
think if if you can get there.
I think that that's a little bit

1799
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,480
something to to build off of
that's that's kind of the the

1800
01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:43,000
minimum baseline to build off
of.

1801
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,160
If we're below that you know
you're going to start hearing

1802
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:51,320
hearing some conversations and
you know fair or unfair.

1803
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,760
It's just that's the nature of
the beast, man.

1804
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,960
When you win three games and if
you turn it around with you know

1805
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,200
four or fewer year 2.
There's going to, there's going

1806
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,120
to be some commentary, but.
I'm hoping we get 5.

1807
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,720
I hope you make a bowl, but I
think 5 is the floor for this

1808
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:08,080
team.
Sheldon 5 is definitely the

1809
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,160
floor.
If you go last year, there's a

1810
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,960
stat that basically looks at
like what they call post game

1811
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,800
win expectancy.
So you just look at team stats.

1812
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,000
How likely would they have been
to win all their games?

1813
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,280
Tech was actually one of the
unluckiest teams in the country

1814
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:21,680
last year.
I think they under performed by

1815
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:26,160
like one 1 1/2 wins, so they
really should have been like 4.5

1816
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,560
ish.
Somewhere around there now you

1817
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,080
might say OK, that's that's, you
know, because of bad coaching.

1818
01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:33,540
But you figure this year you're
starting from fournaf last year.

1819
01:39:33,780 --> 01:39:37,460
Better coaching, better players.
They know the system better.

1820
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:40,460
It would be really, really hard
for this team not to win five

1821
01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:43,780
games.
I think, especially if you know,

1822
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:46,340
you figure that luck hopefully
improves this year.

1823
01:39:46,740 --> 01:39:48,940
They would need some pretty
atrocious luck to win four games

1824
01:39:48,940 --> 01:39:51,740
or less, in my opinion, and
that'd be a pretty disappointing

1825
01:39:51,740 --> 01:39:54,020
season if they did.
So I'll go 514.

1826
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:55,560
Got it.
All right.

1827
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,560
Tally, you said you had
something you wanted to ask each

1828
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,440
of us.
Go right ahead.

1829
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:01,560
Yeah, so just just looking at
stuff, man, and getting ready

1830
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:07,840
for football and being an idiot.
If we are five and O with two

1831
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:15,400
blowout wins going into playing
Florida State, are we ranked?

1832
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,800
Is that a ranked matchup?
I mean, and they're undefeated

1833
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,840
as well.
Yeah, that's right.

1834
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,440
Yeah, that's we're we're ranked.
If we're five and O and we beat

1835
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,730
Pitt, we're ranked because
there's going to be obviously

1836
01:40:26,730 --> 01:40:30,010
some and me some dirty fallout
from other parts.

1837
01:40:30,050 --> 01:40:34,890
So yeah, I think we'll be in the
top 25 maybe at the low end.

1838
01:40:36,730 --> 01:40:41,450
I I think they would do that
like you know polls or yeah, you

1839
01:40:41,450 --> 01:40:46,250
know, you know me and Curtis, I,
I had this big, big problem with

1840
01:40:46,250 --> 01:40:48,330
preseason polls.
But I think the way preseason

1841
01:40:48,330 --> 01:40:53,920
polls work and I think the way.
When people look at matchups, if

1842
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,440
you're undefeated heading into
that game, there's going to be a

1843
01:40:56,440 --> 01:41:00,280
lot of people that will want to
put us in the top 25 solely for

1844
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,160
that matchup.
And that's why I asked the

1845
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,360
question.
Because I'm like that has the

1846
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,640
trigger.
For the narrative, it's better

1847
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:11,000
if we are, yes.
Yeah, yeah.

1848
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,800
I would actually, I do think we
would be ranked.

1849
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,640
I will say though, I I take a
shoot.

1850
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,880
There's a narrative that like
precinct poser kind of bogus.

1851
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,320
I've actually seen some research
showing that.

1852
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,960
Recent polls are actually more
accurate at least in college

1853
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,520
basketball than like the in
season polls.

1854
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,240
And I think it's because you
know, the pollsters before the

1855
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,560
season tend to look at like, you
know, they essentially they're

1856
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,280
just projecting like who the
best teams will be based on, you

1857
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,560
know, returning production, you
know staff from us here

1858
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,720
etcetera, etcetera.
But once season starts, it

1859
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,960
becomes essentially like the
popularity contest, just like

1860
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,960
when lost record and you know
who's hot.

1861
01:41:45,380 --> 01:41:49,060
So yeah, I don't think recent
polls are all that bad, but

1862
01:41:49,540 --> 01:41:51,420
yeah, definitely, if tech starts
winning games, they're going to

1863
01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:53,140
shoot up the Hurricanes, because
that's kind of what the polls

1864
01:41:53,140 --> 01:41:55,340
all about.
See, I think with football it's

1865
01:41:55,340 --> 01:41:59,260
worse because everything based
on the preseason poll determines

1866
01:41:59,260 --> 01:42:02,700
how people vote in subsequent
polls.

1867
01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:04,740
And there's and.
And unlike college basketball,

1868
01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:08,820
you don't have, you know, months
and months of of polls to deal

1869
01:42:08,820 --> 01:42:12,300
with relative to the to the
original.

1870
01:42:12,300 --> 01:42:15,450
So.
It probably biases the the polls

1871
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:18,370
a little bit more than it would
in college basketball.

1872
01:42:18,530 --> 01:42:22,330
But to your point you know when
when those in season polls are

1873
01:42:22,330 --> 01:42:24,690
taking place you're you're
bringing in a lot of recency

1874
01:42:24,690 --> 01:42:28,730
bias of of what we saw you know
in in that last week's game.

1875
01:42:28,730 --> 01:42:31,010
So that that's definitely
probably pulling a lot more

1876
01:42:31,290 --> 01:42:33,010
weight than it probably should
sometimes.

1877
01:42:33,010 --> 01:42:35,890
All right, well, we we've got
some other questions we're going

1878
01:42:35,890 --> 01:42:38,530
to throw up here and let
everybody answer them.

1879
01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:41,810
Pete, be our buddy over it.
Too deep.

1880
01:42:42,230 --> 01:42:45,350
How many wins does PRI need to
win the ACC Coach of the Year?

1881
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:47,830
Whoever wants to take that one
first. 8.

1882
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:52,430
Eight wins and you better win
the bowl too, but definitely

1883
01:42:52,430 --> 01:42:54,630
eight wins.
That's what.

1884
01:42:54,630 --> 01:42:57,190
Listen again, I told y'all,
y'all have me.

1885
01:42:57,270 --> 01:43:00,470
My mind is nuts over here
because y'all freaking let

1886
01:43:00,470 --> 01:43:04,230
people put stuff out before the
season that don't have shit to

1887
01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:06,550
do with the season.
You let them put that little

1888
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:09,270
thing out and everybody's
thinking about how far we're

1889
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:11,270
behind, how we're running like a
mom and pop.

1890
01:43:12,260 --> 01:43:15,300
You're doing a great job.
What you did was you got them to

1891
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:17,140
put that out, and then you're
going to go out here and you're

1892
01:43:17,140 --> 01:43:19,740
going to win eight or nine games
and then you're going to win the

1893
01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:23,260
coach of the year.
Dude, I'm, I understand what

1894
01:43:23,260 --> 01:43:25,940
he's doing.
That's why that article came out

1895
01:43:25,940 --> 01:43:27,500
of this.
Chestnut checkers, right?

1896
01:43:27,700 --> 01:43:29,660
It's Chesnut checkers, man.
Hey.

1897
01:43:30,700 --> 01:43:33,620
What Tally just said.
I was not familiar with your

1898
01:43:33,620 --> 01:43:38,220
game, coach, bro.
We'll see.

1899
01:43:40,540 --> 01:43:43,980
I think it's got to be 9 because
I think with the way FSU set up

1900
01:43:43,980 --> 01:43:49,020
this year, I think FSU is set up
to win 11 or 12 games and if he.

1901
01:43:49,780 --> 01:43:53,140
He can win it with eight if FSU
has two losses if that's.

1902
01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:56,700
I think FSU is going to start
the season 2 and two myself.

1903
01:43:56,740 --> 01:44:03,580
Honestly, he got to lead.
LSU let's let's yeah, let's

1904
01:44:03,660 --> 01:44:05,660
Shelton finish here and then
we'll throw one more on the

1905
01:44:05,660 --> 01:44:08,790
board before we wrap up here.
Yeah, it's like it depends on

1906
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:10,270
if.
As long as Clemson doesn't win

1907
01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:13,830
the ACC.
If Clemson doesn't win the ACC,

1908
01:44:14,190 --> 01:44:16,510
I would lead more towards 9.
If they do win it, I definitely

1909
01:44:16,510 --> 01:44:18,950
think it could do it just
because you know Clemson would

1910
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:20,110
be expected to win the
conference.

1911
01:44:20,110 --> 01:44:22,670
Obviously, if we're to say
expected to win 10 games, so if

1912
01:44:22,670 --> 01:44:24,670
you like Virginia Tech A5 win
improvement, that's pretty

1913
01:44:24,670 --> 01:44:26,470
insane.
So yeah, that is pretty insane.

1914
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:28,590
That's a great point to make.
All right, we got one more

1915
01:44:28,590 --> 01:44:31,920
question from our bloody Clark.
I think we like to have to pull

1916
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,560
the website up to do this.
So I'm gonna.

1917
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,520
I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get
the easy one out of the way

1918
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,640
first.
First of all, you get to choose

1919
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,880
one uniform combination for the
game this season.

1920
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,160
What game?
What you wearing, Tally?

1921
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,360
Go ahead.
It's the orange effect.

1922
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:52,040
Fucking wear orange.
It's it's pretty easy if you if

1923
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,360
you're playing Purdue and it's
the orange effect, orange

1924
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,520
helmets.
Orange jersey.

1925
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,920
Orange.
Past as much orange as you can

1926
01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:01,800
get.
Put that shit on and let's go.

1927
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,560
I want Orange everything Purdue.
Everything, Grayson.

1928
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:12,120
Thursday night Syracuse game.
Give me the maroon helmet with a

1929
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:17,760
white face mask, maroon top,
white pants and white cleats.

1930
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:24,080
Yep, tell them.
So I'm going to go.

1931
01:45:25,260 --> 01:45:31,700
White top I'll go maroon pants,
white helmets with the black

1932
01:45:31,700 --> 01:45:33,940
stripe down the middle.
And we're also gonna wear

1933
01:45:33,980 --> 01:45:35,780
leather helmets cuz this is
1920s.

1934
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:42,300
I'm going 1920s throwback.
How's a good one?

1935
01:45:42,780 --> 01:45:45,540
The setup was perfect there.
The setup was perfect.

1936
01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:47,020
I love it.
Single.

1937
01:45:47,660 --> 01:45:51,780
Oh man.
Let me go Thursday night against

1938
01:45:51,780 --> 01:45:54,820
Syracuse and we're we're
bringing back the Nike Pro

1939
01:45:54,820 --> 01:45:59,260
Combat Blacks Oh.
My God, that's a tough.

1940
01:45:59,340 --> 01:46:01,140
One, do we have a black
alternate?

1941
01:46:05,500 --> 01:46:02,540
It's it's from the hokey stone.
Have y'all seen the pants in

1942
01:46:02,540 --> 01:46:08,700
practice like the the?
It's, it's from the hokey stone.

1943
01:46:08,820 --> 01:46:11,500
Yeah, we still got a full set of
those out there that we don't

1944
01:46:11,500 --> 01:46:13,100
wear.
Great.

1945
01:46:14,020 --> 01:46:16,740
All right, I'm, I'm gonna go
with kind of tally on this,

1946
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:20,940
except I'm gonna put one caveat.
Purdue game, orange fans, orange

1947
01:46:20,940 --> 01:46:25,580
jersey, white helmet, orange Vt
logo inside it.

1948
01:46:26,060 --> 01:46:29,660
That's what I'm going with here,
but we do need, listen, the Pro

1949
01:46:29,660 --> 01:46:31,460
Combat uniforms, please bring
them back.

1950
01:46:31,460 --> 01:46:33,660
Literally some of the best
jersey we ever had.

1951
01:46:33,660 --> 01:46:36,700
It was such a great look.
The old woman I hate the and

1952
01:46:36,700 --> 01:46:39,660
they hate those jerseys.
That's crazy.

1953
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:39,820
Oh yeah.
So.

1954
01:46:41,900 --> 01:46:44,980
Is it cuz they're tying it to
the Boise State loss or is it

1955
01:46:44,980 --> 01:46:47,380
just because they hate?
Because they hate.

1956
01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:49,180
The same things.
They're the same people who got

1957
01:46:49,180 --> 01:46:50,180
rid of.
Stick it in.

1958
01:46:50,260 --> 01:46:54,180
They don't like fun things, so
they don't like fun things.

1959
01:46:54,180 --> 01:46:56,020
I said what I said.
All righty.

1960
01:46:56,940 --> 01:47:00,420
Is anything breaking?
We went right under two hours.

1961
01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:02,700
But we don't have a quarterback
announcement yet, but that's

1962
01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:05,860
probably coming soon.
Yeah, we probably has a press

1963
01:47:05,860 --> 01:47:08,820
conference tomorrow.
We said I thought it was

1964
01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:10,900
Tuesday.
It's moved to Wednesday.

1965
01:47:10,900 --> 01:47:13,340
Shout out David Cunningham,
because David Cunningham told me

1966
01:47:13,340 --> 01:47:15,420
that that there was going to be
Wednesday this week, not

1967
01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:18,860
Tuesday, unfortunately.
I do think, how about that?

1968
01:47:18,940 --> 01:47:20,260
Do we get the announcement
tomorrow?

1969
01:47:20,500 --> 01:47:22,780
Quarterback I feel like you got
to.

1970
01:47:22,780 --> 01:47:26,500
I feel like it's that time you
know you got, you got a week you

1971
01:47:27,060 --> 01:47:30,130
two weeks to to gain.
I mean, it's time for somebody

1972
01:47:30,130 --> 01:47:32,410
to get all the reps.
I feel like you got to come out

1973
01:47:32,410 --> 01:47:36,810
and go ahead and tell us or tell
not tell us, but tell the team.

1974
01:47:37,450 --> 01:47:39,330
I mean, they need to know more
to tell the team.

1975
01:47:39,330 --> 01:47:41,290
So we know too, because, you
know, we're reporting here,

1976
01:47:41,290 --> 01:47:43,370
Yeah, it's going to come down.
Inquiring minds?

1977
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All right, well boys, that is
going to wrap up this episode of

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the Boundary Corner podcast
brought to you by Main Street

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Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
We appreciate our guest, Grayson

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Onebus joining us from the Left
coast in California, I'm Curtis

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Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

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Jonathan Talley.
I am Shelton Moss.

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Visit our website
boundarycornervt.com.

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Listen to all of our episodes.
Also check out the merchandise

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shop there as well at the
Boundary Corner store.

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While you're there, follow us on
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Subscribe to our YouTube account
with a bunch of y'all are

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watching tonight.
We appreciate that big time and

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your favorite podcast source
including Spotify, Amazon, and

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Apple.
Podcast We let Jason Long play

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us in, play us out all the time.
Check out his website,

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jasonlongmusic.com.
It takes to his music on Apple,

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Spotify, his YouTube and
Facebook pages.

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Check his album the covers EP
out with the Midnight Rider

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cover, which is pretty freaking
awesome.

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We thank you, as always for
listening and let's go.

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Okie.

Grayson Wimbish

Cohost of the Sons of Saturday

Hokie alum and Sons of Saturday co-host. When he's not talking Hokies he's creating some kickass graphics and videos.

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