We are joined this week by an elite panel of writers, radio personalities, and podcasters (DonV, Dwight Vick, Danny Nokes, Grayson Wimbish, David Cunningham, Jon McLaughlin, and Mike McDaniel) as we preview the Hokies 2022 season in the first annual Hokies Season Preview Panel.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast and welcome to

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the boundary Corner podcast.
2022 poke season preview panel.

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My name is Curtis Wilson and the
brainchild behind this idea.

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My partner.
Brian Sigler, how are you today?

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Big buddy.
What's up Curtis man, we got a

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big one tonight for everybody.
This has been rolling around in

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my brain since early spring.
I'm glad we were to put it

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together.
And let's just say this.

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I'm I'm height, I'm high.
I'm running late today, to kick

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it with these guys, to chop it
up to talk some Hokies, let's do

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it.
Absolutely, man.

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So fun we were chatting just
before we got on everybody, like

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everybody loaded.
So let's start up Brian.

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Our first panelist, he was a
hokie offensive lineman from

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1994 to 1998.
He was all-big East.

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He was a team captain, he is the
founder of Victory, life and

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death.
Victory Life Legacy podcast.

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He's also a co-host with his
cousin scanning, Mike Vick know

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if you ever heard of him on the
Vic 757 podcast coming to us

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from Northern Virginia, by the
way, of the 757 mr.

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Dwight Vic.
What's up, man?

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What a dope with that intro
stuff?

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That was a good interim like
that.

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Yeah, yeah.
Let's bring our next panelist.

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Our next panelist, he's hunkered
down in Blacksburg Virginia,

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he's got a big day tomorrow,
with hokey media day.

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He's the managing editor of
sideline, and he holds down one

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of the coveted, great chairs on
that podcast, ladies and

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gentlemen, David Cunningham,
What's up guys?

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Glad to be back my second time.
Being on your guys podcast.

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We had a lot of fun last time
and excited for the panel.

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Hell yeah, welcome back.
It's going to be a good time.

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I know you're excited about all
the the media day Shenanigans

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tomorrow and some of the
practices periods you get to

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watch and everything.
So big day, big day, big day.

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All right, Brian.
Next as Brian is always said

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this is a offensive lineman
podcast so heylia course.

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We've got another hokey
offensive lineman from 2013 to

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2016.
He played for the Hokies he

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wasn't all-acc offensive lineman
currently he is the co-host of

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the locker room podcast with
felly with fellow hokey, alumni

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Luther Maddie, live from
Charlotte, North Carolina, the

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Queen City, we got John
McLaughlin John.

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John, how are you man doing?
Well, bear.

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Got to be here.
Like you said, absolutely.

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Any time we get a chance to get
alignment on here.

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We take that Advantage.
Welcome back.

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Appreciate you jumping on with
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It's going to be a big night
tonight.

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All right.
So the next bait on this list

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needs no introduction.
He's coming to us from the 757.

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He's been holding it down since
2013, as the host of Don.

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V, Fridays, the legend himself
Davi Hey, how y'all doing?

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I'm Beatles.
I nobody man.

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I'm just a fan bro.
I'm just happy to be here.

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You've been doing it?
Doing it big for a while man, we

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appreciate you jumping on.
We're looking forward to

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chatting up with you.
Oh, thanks for having me.

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Appreciate you coming Vito.
Alright, next man, we got coming

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on here.
He is the co-host of the victory

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laughs podcast, and on the
weekends, he's running the

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weekend and the overtime hosted
1067, a fan in d.c.

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See, he is live and the live
here in the western of our VA,

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where he used to be the producer
for radio 910 show, mr.

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Danny Nokes, Danny, how you
doing tonight, man?

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What's going on gentlemen?
Thanks for having me.

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Appreciate you being here.
Great to be among us great panel

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at these great panelists.
There's a lot of great people

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here today so I appreciate y'all
include me.

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Not a problem.
Glad to have you on, appreciate

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you jumping on with this is
going to be a good time.

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We got we got a couple more
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We're going to move next to.
We got we got a couple guys that

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are, you know, sons of Saturday
Affiliates here, the first one

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up, you could hear this man on
the Hokie hangover sons of

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Saturday hoop pod, basketball
Conference football podcast.

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You can catch him breaking news
for SI and of late dropping.

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New dad picks on the socials
from all over the state of

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Virginia Mike McDaniel.
What's going on guys?

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Thanks for having me on my guy,
you doing?

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And I did you change a diaper
right before you hopped on?

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Not right before, but it's
called a half hour before.

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There we go, it was in the
ballpark.

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It was in the vicinity.
It was in the vicinity.

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We know how that goes man.
Mike, we appreciate you joining

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us here tonight.
I think you got me all right,

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one more person.
Next panelist he's checking in

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from the West Coast in sunny and
he's saying hot Ela, which I

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know that's that's unusual for
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There he is.
The co-founder and one third of

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the sons of Saturday podcast, a
preseason trailer.

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May even if y'all hadn't seen
what he dropped a couple weeks

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ago that it was tight.
I loved it.

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Also a guy who's got some
connections back to Halifax

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County for me and mr.
Siegel here, Grayson wimbush.

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How you doing tonight, man?
What's going on gentlemen?

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How we doing?
Thank you for having me in the

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building.
I'm very, very excited about

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this.
Yeah, we appreciate you jumping

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on.
I'm looking forward to it.

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I know you're out there in Sunny
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I'm surprised that you're hotter
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I know we got some we got some
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week and you guys are probably
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a dry heat back on the East
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L got the humidity we don't have
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that Grace and I think it was 90
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Richmond today.
Walk outside storage sweating

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before you take three steps.
So Absolutely, you know me, I'm

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sweating.
I'm sweating standing still,

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it's 73.
So if it's humid Ron you see you

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sweat in the wintertime and, you
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All right.
So guys, we really appreciate

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you all joining us tonight.
A lot of great voices, a lot of

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great voices.
A lot of good opinions.

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Got a lot of good thoughts, lot
of good background.

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So before we jump on, it was
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things for the live listeners
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If you guys have any questions
or comments for this panel, I'll

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let us know if your questions
are for a specific panelist.

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Please specify that panelists so
we can get them to question.

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So we might throw someone here
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Some of you guys did respond
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Brian put out.
We really appreciate that.

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Now one other thing kind of
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guys here.
Big thank you to all of again

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and to all your listeners
joining us tonight.

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A lot of fun going to happen but
we're going to start off with is

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we're going to give everybody.
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Y'all know we gave you all those
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like I don't like you know
ambushing anybody but for the

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other guys kind of we mentioned
before if y'all have something

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y'all want to say feel free to
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If you've got a different
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do it.
So Brian, what we got up first?

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All right, so we're going to let
our Elder Statesman, Dwight Vic

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lead off tonight.
First question for him, since

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coach Pride was hired, you've
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A few times.
Is there a standout intangible

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factor for Success that you
think Brent pry brings to the

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table?
That might help the team this

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year?
Oh yeah, that's you guys can

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hear me, right?
Yeah, we got you.

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We got you on Glee.
That's a great question.

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You know, I, you know, I I know
coach prior but seeing him in

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this role being back in
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and talk to me the spring game.
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the spring game?
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right before the season kicked
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the job the biggest difference.
I see and just him being here in

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six months is that he's invested
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I know that's like a simplistic
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I think you could tell and just
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some guys up here in the DMV
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Maryland d.c. kids.
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They just know what's a
different energy and you could

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just tell like he's really
invested in Virginia Tech.

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It's not you know a midpoint
stopping ground like he is

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really trying to put a foothold
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Commonwealth but also he's
really connecting to the alumni

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like the guys like me and
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from the 90s, the 80s and 70s,
and the 2000s.

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And I think in regards this
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guys like Eddie Royal coming
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probably next week and a lot of
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come and watch practices.
There's a connection there where

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the last five years, there was a
disconnect between what the

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expectations for Virginia.
Tech football should be and what

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the previous regime had.
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I said this on down V space
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current players or the guy that
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what it meant to be a Hokie
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I think it was just, they were
competing wearing the colors and

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uniform, but I think the guys
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and his staff, from what I see,
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and what they are supposed to be
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Like he just genuinely cares
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I'm last point.
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game, I talked to him, you know,
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He wanted to take a picture of
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Talk to every form of play that
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field house or actually endorse
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He's just talking and he just
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fake.
It's not manufactured height.

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Like he really has a plan.
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players are bonded to it, you
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former players, we're not
playing no more.

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The current guys stay there
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And I think you can just see the
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talked to a few guys that are on
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talking about, this is the
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since they've been in touch.
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Yeah, it sounds like that
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that competitiveness and
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I think that's the big thing and
getting back to that that that

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culture that Virginia Tech
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You know, it started started
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you you kind of built on that
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got taken to a different level
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So getting that culture back and
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it means to be a hokie.
I think that's going to be big

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for this year, fresh out.
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All right, so let's flip it
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And let's take a look at what's
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about the competition and stuff.
So I'm going to flip it over to

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David Cunningham David, you know
you've had some up close look at

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the camp practices since last
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on Wednesday and Friday other
than quarterback, because we all

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want to know, is it going to be
Grant?

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Wells are going to be Jason
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It's 7:30 down at ODU, what
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Do you have your eyes on?
In about to get your first look

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at week 2 tomorrow and start
speaking with people.

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Yeah, I well, first of all, I
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I think most people know that
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candidate right now on the
coaching staff is kind of not

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said that directly but they've
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But as far as other position
battles go but one of the things

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I've said multiple times,
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sideline podcast, or written
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radio, is that text starting, 22
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Sides of the ball is pretty
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It's the young guys that debt
that's really where the question

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marks lie I think wide receiver
Caleb Smith, he's proven Gaiden

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blue transferred from Temple.
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to bring to the table but do on
Lofton genuine Jones downright

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that kind of that group of guys,
I'm really curious to see who

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kind of steps up as wide
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Even some young guys like
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know, he was rapping with the
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I think that position group, it
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entire season and as on the
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at Sam linebacker.
That's a new position for Brent

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pry.
And this defensive scheme count

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to Jenkins Jr, Walker, and
Keely, Lawson role working

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there.
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has the edge, but these are
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the position.
Before so how that position

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unfolds kind of what Brett prai
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And Chris Marv, the defensive
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for in that position.
I think those are the two main

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main position battles.
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I'm keeping my eye on.
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I think most of us would say you
look around at the 22 like we

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have good players but it's get
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this is scary.
If you know if somebody goes

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down we Could be in a, we could
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trouble.
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when you look at the offensive
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I think that's kind of defensive
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but but especially on the
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It's a lot of a lot of guys
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with that second and third teams
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or current Walk-Ons.
And, you know, when you've only

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got four or five guys, that
upfront that it, that have

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played before in a ACC game
where FPS game period, you know,

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if There is some injuries.
You know, that doesn't really

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bode well for your season.
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Depth in the trenches is
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I'm just going to kind of Swing
this over to to John here, back

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in the spring.
Coach prize said, you know, we

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kind of got six offensive
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ready to go with.
And there's a lot of question

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marks after that, you know,
since then, we've got a couple

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true freshman that have hit the
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We One that switch from
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So let me ask you this from your
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specifically about Joe Rudolph.
With this current roster.

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We're certain coaches in your
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and get more out of you than
others and how necessary think

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that will be for the offense of
success this year?

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Absolutely, you know, I think, I
think back to when Jeff bronze

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was the coach and we were always
competing, he would sometimes

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put a third string and the first
string for practice and that

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first thing Guys looking like,
you know, why is he in the first

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Dream?
It's because you slack off

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yesterday.
So I think I think it's got the

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mentality to man.
I think he's all about competing

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and he you know, he's he's so
technical with his coaching and

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I think we could quit plays and
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their eyes in the right place.
And everything to watch.

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So that kind of helps the death
because I think they're going to

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be coach.
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we're going to be coach, we're
going to get in there early but

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you're like like David said, you
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You know, we looking on paper,
we're looking you know kind of

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rough there on death but with
put Rudolph we would definitely

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got to know.
Yeah, it's good to hear.

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I think you know, as you said
getting getting guys that are

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coached up in at least knows
what they're doing.

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How to do it, have the
fundamentals in place and that

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gives you something to build off
and I think some of the young

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guys, particularly thinking
Braylon more and Xavier

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chaplain, I think they
definitely have high ceilings

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even if they weren't necessarily
the highest-rated guys coming

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in.
So I think there's some, there's

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some opportunity there as well.
Absolutely, I will flip it over

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to veto next year.
We do, you were one of the first

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on the fire food, train, several
years ago.

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You've talked into Utah as
Banks.

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You take a look at this roster.
This year.

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Is there anybody?
The prior regime is maybe

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failed.
You think it could stand out in

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2022 or maybe it's a good player
and it goes from being a good

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player to like that boys, gonna
get drafted in the first two

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rounds of make some money.
I mean, for real for real, I

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think everybody that was kind of
negatively affected left

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already.
Whether that was to the draft,

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or to the workforce.
I think everybody would just

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like, yo, we out.
Um, so there really was no good.

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Answer because I mean Dax came
back but he's had a full career

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already.
So I would say Malachi Thomas

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even though he was he didn't, I
wouldn't say they failed him

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last year, it was a freshman,
but he was hidden.

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So now, you know, only only
thing I can say is who else have

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they stashed?
That we don't know.

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It's probably more mr.
Eden, because who we saw do got

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failed.
They left for real for real.

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I like that point man I love the
point.

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You just made about the
negativity that you know, some

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of the guys are gone that had
that negative outlook and I

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laugh about your back to your
decks, had a full career.

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That's just got lucky with
covid.

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He gets one more season.
Hey hold on.

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Hold on bro.
Go ahead big Dwight.

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How long is how long has that
been there?

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This is his fifth year so it's
just five years.

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Yeah.
Do it.

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We heard a indexes name since
late 2016, exactly.

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But due to point, I like what
Don said their house, I'm going

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to give you kudos to that, man,
because what you just said about

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our their players that got
stashed that were in dog houses

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that were good players that the
other staff just didn't put on

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the field.
And to be honest, with the white

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said what we're hearing about,
Joe Rudolph.

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I don't think that's going to
happen.

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I think if you're the best
player, I don't care who you

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are.
You're going to To be on the

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field against Saudi You in
September.

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Yeah, I'm with that.
I agree.

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I think they're going to they're
going to find a way to get the

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best guys out there and I think
I think Talent evaluation so far

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has been better with the new
regime, just from what I'm

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seeing with, how they're playing
with depth charts, how they're

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getting more out of guys that we
didn't see really a lot from

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last year.
I don't think you just see that

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success out the gate.
But, you know, we'll see how

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that turns into anything in
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David Cunningham you got
somebody.

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Yeah, I think.
Yeah, I mentioned Keshawn King.

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I think he's a running back who,
you know, he's entering his

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third or fourth season now and
we saw a glimpses of him whether

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it's in the backfield or
returning kicks.

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But, you know, he kind of, I
don't want to say he had

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off-the-field issues, but he,
there were things that held him

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back from playing and he, you
know, when Brent Prayin the

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staff came in Brian admitted,
okay?

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They're going to be guys that
leave.

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They're going to be guys that
don't gel with the culture and

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want to leave.
And clearly Keshawn King is a

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guy and he just one example of a
guy who maybe got in that

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doghouse in air quotes if you
want to put it that way who, you

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know, has an opportunity.
Now, you know, we've seen in the

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two practices.
I got to see last week with the

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rest of the media, no Keyshawn
Kings looking explosive.

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He's No, he's looks like he's
developed more and I'm curious

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with this new culture around the
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How many other guys like that?
Who were, maybe held back or

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didn't receive an opportunity
because of something that went

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on, maybe behind the scenes
discipline related, whatever it

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might be that are getting a new
life.

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So to speak with this new staff,
John.

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Go ahead with what you got to
say, man.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, man, you
haven't seen a lot of players

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leave and that's important.
That's important.

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That a lot of a lot of players
have a left for the portal or

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even when you know, coach when
they came in and bhima was gone.

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We had Charlie Evans left me, I
can do left for the drive.

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You have you haven't seen a lot
of that this year, you know?

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So I think that's important that
they're actually saying, hey, we

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want you to stay, you want you
to be a part of this thing or at

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least give the spring to try,
you know, then, you know, you

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see where you go.
I think they've had those

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one-on-one meeting with you
player, so that that means a lot

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too.
Yeah, it sounded like out the

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gate, the process.
He's going to have a lot of

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difficult conversations with
folks and, you know, be honest

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with where they, where they're
standing now and where they

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potentially see them standing,
you know, by the end of spring

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and then by the start of fall
weather that is a position

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change.
Whether that is focusing more on

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being a depth player, this year
versus somebody that's going to

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be in the starting lineup,
consistently.

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And once you have those
conversations that at least

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gives those players the the
ability to make the best

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decision for them.
Whether it's It's, you know,

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sticking around and being a part
of it or you know, seeing what

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they can do elsewhere.
But let's let's put a little

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bit.
Danny kick this one over to you.

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You spent the spring game in the
booth of Might burn up and I

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assume you get a little time
with the team that we can as

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well.
What part of this team do?

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You hope has improved the most
since you call that game back in

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April, Yeah, that's a, that's a
great question, Brian.

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And that was a pretty incredible
experience.

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Just sharing the booth with Mike
burn up five.

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Everyone has asked about how
that has been how it went and

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and just being alongside him.
He's just an encyclopedia

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Virginia Tech knowledge, whether
it's football or any other

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sport, especially football,
know, that man is incredibly

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talented and we are very lucky
to have him in Blacksburg but in

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the production meeting that we
had before that game but the day

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before I we definitely I only
got the chance to talk to Brent

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fry and there's there were a lot
of takeaways from that sum over

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all things that I thought were
interesting you know he's

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obviously a defensive guy that
came over from Penn State and he

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believes that a strong defense
in this conference will take you

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as far as that you need to go.
You know you look at all the

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success that it seemed like
Clemson is had recently and

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although they're incredibly
talented on both sides of the

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ball they've been mostly
predicated on playing defense

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with with the exception of
DeShaun Watson.

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That's, you know, they've had a
Litany of incredibly talented

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defensive players.
So when you play on the coastal

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where it's even more wide open,
it becomes even more important.

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I think to have a good defense
and I think that is there you

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have him bringing in his scheme
and his players will come as he

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gets to recruit.
And there's obviously a palpable

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hype surrounding this Virginia
Tech program that we haven't

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seen for a very long time that I
think that's going to help them.

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But when it comes to the exact
answer to your question, Brian,

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it kind of goes back to the
theme of what we've all been

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talking about so far in this
podcast and it said, they need

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some help on both the offensive
and the defensive line has an

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improvement on both the
offensive and the defensive

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line.
What I remember most about that

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game is Jason Brown had
absolutely no time to do

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anything.
I mean he was running for his

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life every time he took a snap
every time he took a snap I

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swear I don't remember a snap
where he was Not under some sort

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of pressure and to me he wasn't
going up or he didn't have the

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number one offensive line in
front of him.

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So what that tells me is that
they have some depth issues

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right there, but if you flip it
over and look at what Grant

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00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:32,500
Wells and you know everyone
remembers the touchdown

447
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:36,400
see-through over the top and
those were impressive but you

448
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,100
know, you'd like to see the
defensive line, get some

449
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:41,100
pressure there as well.
So I'd like to see them, you

450
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,900
know, in the trenches improve on
both sides of the ball.

451
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:47,000
And I think that they have the
coaching staff to do that.

452
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,800
And and the last thing that I'll
say to is just an overall take

453
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,400
away from from being among that
staff for that spring game

454
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,400
weekend is that Brent pry, is
very Reliant right now on his

455
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,900
offensive coordinator.
Tyler Bowen to obviously run the

456
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,900
offense and help get things set
there, but you know, Brent is

457
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:09,700
still figuring out how to, you
know, the same way he sees

458
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,600
defense as a defensive
coordinator, he wants to see it

459
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,600
on the offensive side of the
ball, he To figure out how to

460
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,400
make other defensive
coordinators squirm and how to

461
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,900
figure out how to use this
Personnel that they had to their

462
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:27,500
advantage.
So they're the foundation of a

463
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:31,100
lot of success that we've seen
this Virginia Tech program have

464
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,200
that.
We're used to seeing where

465
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200
they're regularly competing for
ACC championships.

466
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,300
That Foundation is being built.
The bricks are being laid right

467
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,200
now.
It's just going to be about

468
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,100
staying healthy this season.
Can you get consistent play on

469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,400
in the trenches?
Both offense and defense side in

470
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,400
line, and then, you know, over
time can you get those recruits

471
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,100
in?
I love that you said it's the

472
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,500
play of those two lines Danny
because I think we have some

473
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:57,300
good players that I think you
look at Silas.

474
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,700
You look at Johnny, Jordan.
You look at, you know, more on

475
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,400
the right side of the Guard
there.

476
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,500
You look at some of the guys on
the we have good players, it's

477
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,200
just nothing behind it.
So that health is important

478
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,600
because if you tell me and this
thing going to happen for the

479
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,000
guys that played in Here
collegiately brine, Ian, the

480
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,700
white specifically point out the
y'all, y'all know, playing the

481
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,400
line and playing against it.
Blind people are gonna get hurt

482
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,100
whether it's a Nick in your out
a couple weeks, you miss a

483
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:28,000
practice and God forbid, you
know, a guy out 6-8 weeks where

484
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,100
it's that happens, that's going
to be, you know, catastrophe or

485
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:37,500
a catastrophic for this team.
So, you know, I hope we can

486
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,500
avoid that because I think we've
got good enough players to

487
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:41,800
compete with everybody on the
schedule this year.

488
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,300
The are I'll piggyback on that
just real quick before I let you

489
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:48,400
get into the next one.
But I'll just say and I know, I

490
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,800
know Johnny talked about a
little bit earlier.

491
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:54,500
Earlier, but I think that we're
struggling depth wise, but I

492
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:56,800
feel like with with some of
these new coaches particularly

493
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Rudolph route since we're
talking in the trenches, I feel

494
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,500
like our Baseline is at least
raised a little bit because you

495
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:07,300
are going to have a little bit
better foundation and those guys

496
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,400
that are further down the depth
chart to maybe lean back on.

497
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,500
So yeah you might not have guys
with a lot of experience guys

498
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,900
with this, that the third, but
you will have guys that are for

499
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,300
their youth and inexperience are
still More prepared probably at

500
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:24,500
Baseline than what we've seen
recently you know, and also to

501
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,700
and also to man you don't get
experience.

502
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,700
You get experience by playing
and then on top of it if you get

503
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,700
to the last three years one of
the biggest issues with

504
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,400
offensive line.
Wasn't you have some yes really

505
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,300
great players individually but
many times in game situations

506
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,900
short, yardage critical plays
Red Zone.

507
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,000
You had a lot of illegal man,
downfield, priests and

508
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
penalties.
Lack of focus.

509
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,400
I think we're Rudolph.
They're like, When Grounds was

510
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,100
there with John and guys, like
JB G to coach me, you're going

511
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,200
to have guys in too deep.
They go know what they're going

512
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
to do.
I think many times in previous

513
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,500
Seasons, our offense was not
coach where when it came to the

514
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,700
trenches.
There was a lot of mistakes made

515
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,900
in RPO situations.
And guys, did not know what they

516
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,400
were doing.
Like if a guy went out another

517
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,000
guy came in and just did not
know.

518
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,300
It wasn't even about physical
play, it was like lack of

519
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,100
understanding scheme and
concept.

520
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
Yeah I agree with that.
I think as you said Rudolph's

521
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,300
going to help help raise that
Baseline.

522
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,300
So that's going to definitely
help Downstream even if you

523
00:29:26,308 --> 00:29:30,100
don't have again that game
experience in aren't necessarily

524
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:34,000
the most highly rated guy.
You're on that side of the ball

525
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,700
Curtis I'ma let you kick the
next move over to Mike.

526
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,900
Oh yeah so mining Daniel you're
constantly talking Hokies.

527
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,600
I mean everywhere probably in
your hometown as much as you do

528
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,100
with podcast but if all these
things you are in your industry.

529
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,900
Three fill in the blank on this.
And I'm almost going to

530
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,100
piggyback and say, you can't say
quarterback because that ain't

531
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,300
fair.
But I'll, but I'll but I, but I

532
00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:59,600
won't.
I won't hold it against you.

533
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,100
If blank has a great season, the
hook you will exceed X, the

534
00:30:04,108 --> 00:30:06,300
Hokies will exceed expectations
in 2022.

535
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,700
I mean it's the obvious answer
it is quarterback.

536
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:20,300
It is a ramp what Virginia Tech
has not had a stable quarterback

537
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:24,300
room in years.
Like you got your rotten 2016

538
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,200
went really well.
You had basically a full year of

539
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,500
Josh Jackson and then he gets
hurt in 2018 and since then it

540
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:34,200
has been chaos, the wrong
quarterback start of the 2019

541
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,700
season.
Then by the time you handed over

542
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,900
the hooker, he wins, whatever
was six 07:07 out of 80 had 13

543
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:43,600
touchdowns to two, picks threw
for over 1,500 yards, and then

544
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,700
20 and his staff.
Make him compete for the

545
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,500
starting quarterback job again
in 2020.

546
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,200
That didn't make any sense,
right?

547
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:57,900
And The rumors were that if you
know Burmeister didn't break his

548
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,600
foot, you know, later in the
season didn't have covid, you

549
00:31:01,608 --> 00:31:04,100
know, he might have had more of
a hand early in the year and

550
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,300
starting quarterback job like
that should never have happened.

551
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,700
You see what hookers doing now
at Tennessee.

552
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:12,400
Obviously he would never have
done that at Virginia Tech

553
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,000
because he wasn't getting the
coaching days.

554
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Now being at Tennessee with High
people and the way that he

555
00:31:16,608 --> 00:31:19,700
Grooms quarterbacks, it just was
not getting that in Blacksburg.

556
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,800
But yeah, it is the quarterback
position we Wells because

557
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Virginia Tech hasn't had
stability at that position in a

558
00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:29,100
long time.
It's obvious like when the

559
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:32,100
offense really started to drop
off really started to Creator

560
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,000
under Fuente and Cornell said,
it's when they stop developing

561
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
quarterbacks.
After Josh Jackson, it was kind

562
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000
of a disaster short of that six
or seven game stretch of Hendon

563
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,400
hooker.
So it's got to be Wells.

564
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:49,200
Tyler Bowen has got to get him
comfortable early on the one

565
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,800
difference, I think between what
prize What Fuente is inheriting

566
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,600
is that prize got his work, cut
out for him a lot more than 20

567
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,300
did.
There was still a lot of Talent

568
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:06,200
on that 2016 roster and not to
say that their brother John on

569
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,200
this protein attack roster.
But it is not.

570
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,900
It is not the same in 2022.
That was in 2016.

571
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,300
When point I took over, I think
we can all acknowledge that.

572
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,500
Yeah it's crazy to see that you
know, one point, we had three

573
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:26,700
former four star quarterbacks on
this roster and couldn't seem to

574
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,600
figure out what to do with any
of them.

575
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000
It's the ineptitude that that
created.

576
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,500
I feel like this was the
downfall and I mean, you can

577
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:39,100
point fingers, if when taking
four fingers at corn and

578
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,100
truthfully, the The fault lies
with both of them in some ways

579
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,200
because, you know, at some
point, if something's not

580
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,700
working, you gotta, you gotta
move on and do something

581
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,300
different.
You can't just come in, they had

582
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,100
to go there to go, get a
quarterback from Kansas because

583
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,900
it couldn't figure out which
four star that was already there

584
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,000
to start with.
I mean, it was a disaster.

585
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:02,300
So, and Willis Willis had his
moments, but it was pretty clear

586
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,100
how the offense was clicking.
When hooker came into that Miami

587
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,100
game.
There was there was a clear

588
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,500
difference in the offense and
instead of kind of riding with

589
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,300
that one tank or Nelson going
in, 20/20 kind of messed around

590
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:18,000
with it, and it should never
have happened. 100% on that

591
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,700
should have been an inside job
from Jump Street because of what

592
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,300
he had done at the end of the
year and even the two losses

593
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:28,300
that he had legitimately where
the best game of quarterbacks

594
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:31,900
ever had at UVA and then that
bowl game.

595
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Well we all know how that bowl
game when because that was some

596
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,500
wild shit beforehand, that I was
the best that was the best game

597
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,500
of quarterback had a Kentucky.
Apparently that day.

598
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:47,700
Yeah, that's running.
Running quarterbacks all the

599
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,600
time and but you know, I knew
you were going to say

600
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,300
quarterback.
I knew you were but I think it's

601
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,300
I think someone like Malachi
Thomas.

602
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:02,400
All right, if you tell me
Malachi Thomas breaks, a

603
00:34:02,408 --> 00:34:06,600
thousand yards this year, I
think that means overall a few

604
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600
things.
A, the offensive line stay

605
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,800
healthy.
That meant probably Grant

606
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,600
played.
Well I think you could choose a

607
00:34:12,607 --> 00:34:15,800
few different people but if you
tell me Grant Wells goes out and

608
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:21,000
you know, Please good.
Yeah, but you know, I'm always

609
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,800
one of these challenges like is
there anybody else?

610
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,500
You want to talk about this
because quarterbacks always

611
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:30,400
answer if you've got an elite
quarterback, a 6-1 team can

612
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,900
become a nine or ten.
One team in a cornerback

613
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,000
definitely sloughs it out.
I mean it has Grayson, just

614
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,500
brought up, you know, Lynn
Bowden there.

615
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:39,699
I mean that that's a team that
yeah.

616
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,199
Good on the defensive side of
the ball but the offense was

617
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,900
pretty much run and Bowden and
nothing else at that point.

618
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:49,100
But what I saw Thought I saw
David Hill posted a like if

619
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,900
bramwell's just continues to
production that he had his first

620
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:53,900
couple of years at Marshall that
he would have the best

621
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,000
production at the quarterback
position, Virginia Tech in like

622
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,900
two decades.
So why don't we just do that?

623
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,900
Yeah, I'll take I'll be
especially if we if we can keep

624
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:06,200
interceptions to 10 or under.
Oh yeah let's roll with it.

625
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,100
Roll with it.
I'm going to kick it over to

626
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:10,200
Grace in here.
You recently got to sit down

627
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,900
with the man himself Brent pry
and he said, you know, he said

628
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:19,300
he's gonna be calling the
defense On this fall at least

629
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:22,900
through 2022 will see if that
continues going forward.

630
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:28,600
But what has you more excited?
This year prize attacking Bud,

631
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Foster inspired defense or Bowen
Smash Mouth spread offense.

632
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,200
Well first I'll say this, I'm
excited about the defense

633
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,900
because a pride will be calling
it and we just have so much

634
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:45,100
experience on the defense you
have to bail cows in fifth year,

635
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,600
seniors Dax hollifield and shh.
Sorry Connor.

636
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,600
So I mean they're going to know
what's going on.

637
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,200
They're going to be flying
around out there.

638
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:56,200
A lot of experience across the
board, but I mean, it's got to

639
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800
be the offense.
I mean we've been through at the

640
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,200
last five years, young women are
like, it's insane.

641
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,800
So I mean, you know, David
Cunningham, he talked about, is

642
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,400
it going to be Grant?
Well, this is going to be Jason

643
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Brown.
Are we going to see Connor,

644
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,400
blumberg taking some reps.
He's still listed as a QB on the

645
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,300
depth chart also an athlete Sue
so I don't know, but I You with

646
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:21,600
David, I think it's going to be
Grant Wells, you know, I think

647
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,400
you all would agree with this
sentiment.

648
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:26,300
If the offense isn't
contributing to us winning

649
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,600
football games, I don't care
what kind of numbers.

650
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,200
They're putting up the previous
regime put up numbers and that

651
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,300
became a scapegoat there at the
end, but they didn't put up a

652
00:36:37,308 --> 00:36:40,600
lot of Victories and that's at
the end of the day, that's what

653
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,700
matters, you know.
I think I'm really excited about

654
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,000
Caleb Smith.
He's the Bell cow on The

655
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600
offense, he is the guy.
You see it in all the videos,

656
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,400
like, on social media and
everything.

657
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,800
He's the leader.
He's the guy that the younger

658
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,400
guys look up to, I guess, I have
to wonder like, who steps up.

659
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,500
I think Duane Lofton is going to
have a breakout season.

660
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,100
I think Malachi Thomas can be
dangerous.

661
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,700
It'll be interesting to see how
we incorporate Keshawn King

662
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:13,300
again chance black Kenji.
Christian two new guys on the

663
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,700
Block and the running back room.
I think another guy who has the

664
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,000
Essential to have a breakout
season is Nick Gallo at tight

665
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,300
end.
There's a lot of talk about him

666
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,200
being very dangerous this
season.

667
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Apparently, he's improved a lot
in Camp.

668
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,600
While we have some young guys on
the offensive line.

669
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,500
You have, Johnny, Jordan, you
have stylist in Z and the locker

670
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:38,200
room at the end, you know, I
don't know, I don't know what to

671
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
expect and that's why I'm
excited about it.

672
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,700
I have no expectations going
into the season, so we'll see.

673
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:45,900
Man.
Let's go.

674
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,500
I'm rooting for Tyler.
Bowen can't be worse than what

675
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,800
we had please.
I'm with you because I feel like

676
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,600
we you know we somewhat know
like prize a known quantity,

677
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,800
we've seen a lot of tape from
Penn State stuff from

678
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,100
Vanderbilt, he's the head guy,
he's calling the defense still.

679
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,900
So we've got a little bit more
of a point of focus where we can

680
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,300
look back and bring some
tangible things out.

681
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,400
But there's a lot of things that
we can't really quantify with

682
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,500
Boeing yet and I think that not
knowing that also Kind of feeds

683
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:18,400
that excitement.
Right?

684
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,100
So I feel like the offense, you
know, aside from all the other

685
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:26,100
things with how the offense has
been a roller coaster the last

686
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:30,500
six years, just that kind of
unknown factor to a point of

687
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:32,500
what we're going to get with
this offense and I'm looking

688
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:36,100
forward to that and Dwight, you
got some things to say about

689
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:43,300
leadership.
Go ahead and You know, know when

690
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:47,300
our Grayson was talking to just
took me back to when I heard

691
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:53,600
Caleb on Don Visa podcast and I
don t Fridays and it was really

692
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,700
refreshing and inside the
noodle.

693
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,600
TTP Sergeant EP muffled.
I apologize shutout to tell him

694
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,500
but it was really, really
insightful because it was stuff.

695
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:07,200
I knew like just being a former
player, you could just tell,

696
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,300
like, it was, it was just one of
those things where he was

697
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,400
speaking with conviction.
But he was also provide Insight

698
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200
because Cuz even though Grayson
is hundreds in, right?

699
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,100
The offense put up numbers.
They hear that they couldn't do.

700
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,800
They couldn't get extra work in
when the when the field was

701
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,600
closed and and not being able to
watch film after practice stuff

702
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,700
that I did back in the late 90s,
you know, like just and also to

703
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,300
the leadership like, that's, I
agree.

704
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,000
I agree with Grayson like race
and talking about like,

705
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,800
leadership with him.
I think that's another thing

706
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,100
that we've been missing, which I
feel like is there this year.

707
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,600
Well, you have Stabs leaders.
I think if you look at any

708
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Virginia Tech Vicki, so ACC
Championship team, we even teams

709
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,400
that won, eight nine, ten games,
there were established leaders

710
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,800
on the team, you can see it.
When you watch the game on

711
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,000
television, you saw guys talking
even guys, like the answer Hall

712
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,300
when he, you know, called out
Miami in 2003 when they had 130

713
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,400
something plus games and he
said, I think we're better.

714
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,100
I don't think Miami is all that
he took a stand.

715
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:09,100
I don't think you really had a
lot of leaders in recent years,

716
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,700
and I think that was more so
because of the culture in

717
00:40:10,707 --> 00:40:14,100
Blacksburg because I Really
think anyone felt comfortable

718
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:17,100
taking that kind of stand and
that they did it became

719
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,400
divisive, what a team wasn't
close and I just I think Grayson

720
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000
is 107 spot-on with Smith being
one of the established leaders

721
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,800
and I think those kind of things
the one of those characteristics

722
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000
you look back on the season.
When they went regardless of

723
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,100
what they win, if they have a
good season, you say oh yeah

724
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,000
they had this player.
He was really good but he was

725
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,500
also a leader and, you know, and
I just think that was a, that

726
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:43,400
was a great Point by Grayson.
Yeah, if I may, but in here, you

727
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,900
know, speaking with Caleb Smith
down in Charlotte ACC kickoff

728
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:51,000
was, was really eye-opening and
this was all stuff.

729
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Caleb, kind of just let loose
kind of the same stuff he said

730
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,300
on the podcast.
He told me about how you know

731
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:03,300
his former position coach told
them at the end of the season in

732
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,700
December last year, he suggested
that he transferred to an FCS

733
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:10,500
school or division to school
like that's you know, The

734
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,700
culture I'll eat, especially on
the offensive side of the ball,

735
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:17,300
just didn't seem to be there,
you know?

736
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:22,100
He he told me that he and
Braxton Burmeister had plenty

737
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,700
locker room conversations.
Plenty hard to you know, many

738
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,500
heart-to-hearts where they were
both just like, it's not in our

739
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,200
hands, there's nothing we can do
about it and I know you Caleb's,

740
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,500
a guy who's a former walk-on,
you know, he's been in the

741
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,300
program for a long time.
He had to earn his keep so to

742
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:42,500
speak, you got Silas Gene.
Hands and Johnny Jordan even

743
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,300
he's a transfer but he's played
college football for a really

744
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:48,000
long time.
Don't need that's not even, you

745
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,500
know, without mentioning Drake
Julius and McDowell at tight end

746
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:56,200
to fifth or sixth year guys.
There are a lot of veterans in

747
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,800
this room and I think from my
understanding, especially on the

748
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,700
offensive side of the ball, got
a little bit out of hand where

749
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,700
guys didn't necessarily have an
opportunity to kind of be

750
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,800
themself.
And A leader and step up.

751
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,200
It was more, I don't know if
drill sergeant style is the way

752
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,000
to describe it, but kind of hey,
you're going to do this and if

753
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,900
you don't do this, you're you're
getting punished and you know,

754
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:27,600
coaches can kind of lead their
programs, you know, in various

755
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,800
Styles but it clearly did not
work out, you know, especially

756
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,800
in the latter stages.
So to talk with Caleb Smith to

757
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,300
talk with Silas jeans, even
decks.

758
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,200
I've y'all on the defense side
of the ball and to get a sense

759
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,800
of, you know, I think it was
Silas who told me that he's

760
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,500
having fun, they're enjoying
practice.

761
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:50,100
They can be themself, they
don't, you know, Caleb Smith

762
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,400
told me that he because he got
the unsportsmanlike conduct

763
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,300
penalty for excessive
celebration in the spring game

764
00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:58,900
out.
If you guys remember that and he

765
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,600
told me, he told me that a kind
of just all came out because the

766
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,100
old staff didn't let him
celebrate.

767
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,200
If they scored during practice,
just just simple things where,

768
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,100
you know, they can Now, be
themself and leaders can kind of

769
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:18,400
emerge naturally if that makes
sense, that makes 100, that

770
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,000
makes 100% sense.
Because in the situations like

771
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,100
this, the coordinators and
everything or they're right, the

772
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,700
guys are played they're there
and they're supposed to help you

773
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:32,000
learn to lead and eventually the
range of to be taken to White.

774
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,800
You were a Captain John, you
guys played your crucial part of

775
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,000
an offensive line.
You've got to have those leaders

776
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,100
in the locker room.
You've got to have the guys that

777
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,400
take the reins right in from the
way.

778
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Everything is sounding what
we've been hearing the last few

779
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,300
weeks special on the offensive
side of the ball.

780
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Nobody wanted to take the range
for fear and you can't play

781
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600
football that way.
But you can't like you can't

782
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,500
play football.
I'm I don't want to, I don't

783
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:00,200
want to celebrate and, you know,
run laps.

784
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,300
You know that's that's
something.

785
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,600
You know, it's like doing
something at work is like man.

786
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,100
I'm not getting on that project.
Getting because it's a craft

787
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,500
project.
I want to get in trouble.

788
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,700
Well I'll say this to you can be
a hard Old Coach and not you

789
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,400
know, has silent lunches and
banned people from the

790
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,700
facilities During certain hours
and all this other stuff.

791
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:24,000
I mean you can be a hard coach.
You can push your players you

792
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,200
know sometimes beyond the limits
that they think they can reach

793
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:33,300
but but still, you know, not be
ridiculous with the things that

794
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,100
you're putting in place because
I don't think anyone's

795
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:39,300
benefiting from not Some more
film, no ones benefiting from

796
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,000
not creating camaraderie during
meals with their teammates, like

797
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,500
that, that type of stuff is not
not building the team and

798
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:48,700
building the culture that you
want for to win.

799
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:53,800
So that's just my two cents on
it, and it's sad that it seems

800
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,800
like that kind of defeatist
attitude, like really fed into

801
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,800
the offense, especially as the
year went on last year's, but a

802
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200
B&B.
I said that I said that on my

803
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,000
show when Danny and I one time,
when Dorian, Strong got the

804
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,500
interception on the Friday night
game against BC.

805
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000
He got it was a key drive, a key
stop early in the first quarter,

806
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,500
anytime a defensive back at
Virginia Tech since even before

807
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:20,500
the bema are got a pic he was
trying to take it to the house.

808
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:25,200
Dorian looked to the sideline
for certainty.

809
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,300
He didn't know.
He looked for advice, he looked

810
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,500
and he kind of stumbled.
And he got hit, he fumbled the

811
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:33,500
ball, subsequently BC, got the
ball back and scored.

812
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,500
That's what I mean about
culture, and being assertive and

813
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,900
knowing what You can and cannot
do you know, Rio Whitaker,

814
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:44,500
Brandon Flowers, garnell Wiles
DeAngelo, Hall, Kam Chancellor,

815
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,600
so on and so on they didn't have
to do that.

816
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,200
They had 20 in Gray and all
those defense the guys coach

817
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,900
Foster coach towards they gave
him the green light to make

818
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:56,000
plays.
And again, I mean, I just think

819
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,300
that's why I go back to the
culture.

820
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:59,900
We have established right now
and we're not even really in the

821
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:02,200
midst of the yet, we still
scratching the surface.

822
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,700
I think about blacks, you're
trying to push the pile instead

823
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:10,300
of reaching out for the goal
line to for fear of, you know,

824
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,200
getting punished for a fumble or
something like that.

825
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Just trying to make a play.
Hey look, bro, I'm telling

826
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,900
y'all, look ya'll missing.
I'm a which one of y'all said

827
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,700
the Kentucky game.
We lost them in a bowl game when

828
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,500
the quarterback and on him was
running up on this and hit dude.

829
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:23,700
Stole one of my players in the
face.

830
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:29,900
I'm telling you right now look I
got a beamer would have he knew

831
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,800
what was up?
There was stuff that happened.

832
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,100
I can speak on Now when the
wrestling team tried us and he

833
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:39,400
talked to the team, he said,
look, make sure y'all do it just

834
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,500
don't do it here.
You know I'm saying?

835
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,800
Take it out of the facility but
do what you need to do?

836
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,900
I don't like the players when
that happened because I wanted

837
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:55,600
to retaliate, but I knew it was
one of them things where they

838
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,700
just couldn't be themselves.
It was like, you know, you

839
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:02,500
couldn't be a man, you couldn't
defend yourself, it was crazy.

840
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:08,800
You know.
All right, so first of all, this

841
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,100
little sections, we've rolled we
rode off on 50 minutes here.

842
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,600
I love it.
We got a lot more to come, but

843
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,300
before we take our break, won't
ask you fellas.

844
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:20,100
This question, come back to
Egypt you.

845
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,900
What three games are the most
important to the Hokies this

846
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,200
season?
Don't think on that before we

847
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,400
get our panels answers to that
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848
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,300
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Now back to the episode All
right, so before we get y'all's

858
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,000
answers me and Brian are going
to give hours just so we can

859
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,300
have a jumping off point mr.
Siegel, oh, I let you leave sir.

860
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,200
All right, three most important
gains for the Hokies in 2022,

861
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:20,000
UVA, Boston, College, UNC.
I say that for a couple reasons.

862
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,700
Number one, I feel like looking
at our schedule, those are games

863
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,700
that we can when we had the
potential to win.

864
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,900
UVA obviously rival.
You want to take care of

865
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:33,900
business there?
I think they've got

866
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,300
significantly better at least
from a talent standpoint offense

867
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:42,200
than we do but their defense is
still garbage.

868
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,300
I think I think we still got to
a chance to get one there.

869
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,000
You know, Boston College has
some talent in places but they

870
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,500
lost a lot on the offensive
line.

871
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:54,500
I think they're still vulnerable
and in some areas and UNC still

872
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:57,000
has to show me that they're more
than just a good recruiting

873
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,300
class.
So until they do that, I'm not

874
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,800
sold on them either.
So I feel like those are three

875
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,700
games that were probably not
favored in but games that are

876
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:08,900
winnable on our schedule and
that's going to be the

877
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:13,600
difference between whether
we're, you know, sub 500 or

878
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,300
looking at a potentially a twin
season.

879
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:18,200
So that's kind of where we're.
I feel like our most important

880
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,100
there and it's always important
to win your conference games and

881
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,100
take care of business against
recruiting Rivals.

882
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,200
We lost a couple recruiting
battles lately to BC we

883
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,100
obviously recruit directly
against UVA.

884
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,400
Jay and UNC has been across our
border way too damn much.

885
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,000
So that's about three.
Alright, moan jump online real

886
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,400
quick because I got two of them
in agreement with them.

887
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:43,500
Once for a different reason.
Uva's one obviously the momentum

888
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,500
we're getting in here.
Recruiting one in the state

889
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:47,600
wise.
You want to keep that you wanted

890
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,700
to keep them an afterthought to
the recruits.

891
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,700
I grew Braun on BC but for a
different reason that is going

892
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,400
to be the first home game under
the brim prior as going to be a

893
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,100
8:00 at night game in Lane it's
gonna be on the SEC network

894
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,400
unfortunately.
So you're not going to get

895
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,700
you're not going to get all the
viewers fertile time, boys,

896
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,500
fertile Jesus.
But but think about this, you go

897
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,700
into that game.
The atmosphere is going to be

898
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,800
electric.
I know some of you guys will be

899
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,900
there.
Me and Brian have talked about

900
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,100
it.
Going potentially and driving

901
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,100
back.
I don't know about that will see

902
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,400
as the time comes but you can
you imagine you have the

903
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,100
electric atmosphere and you beat
them?

904
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:34,500
Think about the height, Think
About Kids on Campus that week,

905
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,100
my last is going to be the Miami
game after the send them, not

906
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,400
for the sentimental reasons that
we're not going to be playing

907
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600
them every other year, which I
think we all are a little bit

908
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,600
angry about especially mr.
Vic up there in my in the

909
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,700
corner.
But but for this Miami with

910
00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:54,700
crystal ball.
They are getting tons of height

911
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,800
on the crew.
Team Trail, getting the top 20

912
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,300
ranking, they got to come to the
Lane regardless.

913
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:05,900
What happens in that game, if we
beat them, wonderful, I profiles

914
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,800
raised if we compete with them
with all their talent, I

915
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,500
profiles raised.
So that's my three Grayson.

916
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,900
Since you were at the back end,
we're going to let you go.

917
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:21,800
What are your big three games
for the He's in 2022.

918
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,500
Absolutely, I yeah I'm with you
Curtis.

919
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:31,900
I'll won't say Miami because you
said it or stuff Boston College.

920
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,400
I mean, first game of the prior
era 8:00, it's going to be

921
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,800
packed to the gills.
Probably be sold out.

922
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,000
You know, I hopefully AC C
digital networking.

923
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,400
Get some high definition cameras
capture, Enter Sandman because

924
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,100
they did a terrible job, see
game and that game out of my A3.

925
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:54,700
I think is the most winnable.
Definitely is probably the most

926
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:58,400
winnable number two, two weeks
later West Virginia.

927
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,400
I mean that I think is the most
important game on our schedule.

928
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,200
Okay, let's Virginia.
Thursday night, Hardware game,

929
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,500
Black, Diamond way.
It ended last year I'm was an

930
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:15,300
Abomination and just I mean so
many head scratch moments in

931
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:17,900
that game.
Got to get that trophy back

932
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Blacksburg is going to be
insane.

933
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:24,300
And then I'm going to say NC
State NC State.

934
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:28,500
Yeah, I'm going to say NC State.
It's been a while since we play

935
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,900
down there in Raleigh and
they're supposed to be

936
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:35,900
relatively good this season.
Obviously, you know, if we can

937
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:39,300
beat Miami great.
But if we can go down there and

938
00:52:39,308 --> 00:52:42,200
beat NC State beat the pack,
that's going to be a huge deal,

939
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,200
especially in Brent prized first
season.

940
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,700
I like that.
I like that.

941
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,900
Yeah, you know, that's
definitely a statement game if

942
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,500
you can go out and win that one
because they are in a lot of

943
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:57,100
ways, you know, some people are
having them as the favorite to

944
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,700
win the ACC this year.
You know.

945
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:02,600
That's a lot of that's going to
depend on whether Clemson can

946
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:05,700
put Cobble together, more
offensive consistency or not

947
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,200
this year, but they definitely
return a lot especially on that

948
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,200
defense.
So that's going to be interested

949
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,700
in the sea.
Let's kick it over to Mike next.

950
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:19,800
What's your three?
Yeah, my three.

951
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,600
I mean, I think you guys are
with the home opener against PC

952
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,000
except sets the tone.
I mean, the Old Dominion game

953
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,100
sets the tone, it's a road game,
you got to win that game because

954
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,500
they're ODU, and you can't do
what point they did in 2017.

955
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,100
And that's game that skate
literally game 14 pry.

956
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,000
But you gotta not only look
competitive against what I

957
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,400
think, will be a pretty decent
Boston College team, but if you

958
00:53:41,408 --> 00:53:43,900
can win that home opener, it
sets the tone for the entire

959
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,300
regime, right, gets you off to
the right start at home.

960
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:48,000
I think that's really important
in front of your fans.

961
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,300
The second one for me is NC
State coming off a bye week.

962
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:54,700
I think is really significant,
so NC State I think going to

963
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:57,800
have a really really good team.
This year Devon Larry's coming

964
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,500
back and they should have one of
the top two or three defense and

965
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:04,700
Conference and you get to see
what kind of what kind of staff

966
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:07,700
is going to be coming off.
A bye in advance scouting,

967
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:08,800
right?
Because you have two weeks to

968
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,900
prepare for one of the best
games on your schedule, it's

969
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:15,700
coming off of the Miami game as
well, which I think is the third

970
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:17,100
most important game on the
schedule.

971
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,100
It's a really important
three-week.

972
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:23,300
Stretch their the Miami game the
bye week and NC State.

973
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:27,300
Because if Virginia Tech is
going to lose to Miami like

974
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:29,800
let's say, you lose that game
which I you know, I think role

975
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,000
we can all live in, Miami will
be favored there in Virginia

976
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,300
Tech loses that game and then
goes into a bye week.

977
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,500
How do you respond to adversity?
Right coming off of one of the

978
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,900
bigger games on your schedule,
rivalry type game.

979
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
How do you respond to adversity,
right?

980
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400
And going into a bye week and
coming out of it, playing a

981
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,400
really good NC State team that
Had the historical stature in

982
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,200
terms of like the history behind
them, right?

983
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,600
To the West Virginia does in
Miami, does it UVA does but

984
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,800
playing with the Bear Team to
your scheduled coming off a bye

985
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,200
week.
That's a really important game

986
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,500
but I think if your bread pry,
you're looking at three most

987
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,700
important games on the schedule,
you know, thinking back to when

988
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:09,500
he was a graduate assistant way
back in the day, it's West

989
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,200
Virginia.
It's Miami, it's UVA.

990
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,800
Like those are the three, most
important games.

991
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,000
So he's going to try to have the
same competitive and all three

992
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,200
of those and I think have a
successful year one, he's going

993
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:20,000
Have to steal one of those,
right?

994
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,200
We point to West Virginia, it's
at home, it's Thursday, night.

995
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,400
West Virginia are in this weird
state would Neal Brown.

996
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,800
We're like, I'm not sure how
good they're going to be.

997
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,300
I'm not sure if that's even
going to work out with Neil

998
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,400
Brown.
Text should have beaten them

999
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,500
last year, great, like in
Morgantown if it weren't for.

1000
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:40,900
I mean they were gifted and
interception and then the goal

1001
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,200
line.
Play-calling was unwilling to be

1002
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:49,400
a shit.
You got the guys were left on

1003
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,800
the roster who were there for
last year's game and they got to

1004
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,000
try to bounce back and get a win
there.

1005
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,500
So that is a game that circled
that's a game.

1006
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,200
Everybody's got circles, 12, B,
huge home game.

1007
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,200
It's one of the early home games
on the schedule.

1008
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,600
You got to try to win that one.
I want to hear Danny Novak's

1009
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:12,200
opinion next.
Well, I like I like where we're

1010
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,500
going with this gentleman.
I think we're going to be all on

1011
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,100
a very similar page when it
comes to the three biggest games

1012
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:19,000
here.
Because to me, that's it's very

1013
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,300
simple and it starts with West
Virginia.

1014
00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:24,400
I loved what Grayson said about
that West Virginia game being

1015
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,700
the biggest game on the
schedule.

1016
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:29,400
This year, I completely agree
with that and it has a lot to do

1017
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,100
with what happened last year.
In the, several cracks, they had

1018
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,700
inside the 5-yard line with the
the game on the line.

1019
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,700
You have the ball close to
punching it in and can't do it.

1020
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,200
That has absolutely a lot to do
with It.

1021
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,300
But with conference realignment
on the horizon and us not

1022
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:47,500
knowing whether Virginia Tech is
going to end up in the Big Ten.

1023
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:52,800
The SEC a reformed ACC will UVA
still be their West Virginia be

1024
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,600
coming over, what we be going to
a conference.

1025
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,100
That includes West Virginia.
It's a it's a dormant rivalry

1026
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:03,700
that is just it needs to come
back and Virginia Tech is in a

1027
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,800
spot here where they definitely
need to go and win that.

1028
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,700
Football game coming up what
happened last year.

1029
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,000
So I start with West Virginia.
I say I move Over to North

1030
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,900
Carolina after that.
Because I don't think they'll

1031
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:16,400
beat Miami and I don't think
they'll be NC State.

1032
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,400
I hope that they will.
And I hope that as Mike was

1033
00:57:19,408 --> 00:57:22,500
saying they come out of the bye
week prepared to compete against

1034
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:25,300
one of the better teams in the
conference and potentially one

1035
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:26,800
of the better teams in the
country.

1036
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,000
I'm just looking at this more of
a from a position of games that

1037
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,400
I think they're better position
to go and win.

1038
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,100
And I think that would be North
Carolina versus an NC State at

1039
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,400
Miami.
So I'll take the Tar Heels.

1040
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
I think they have Have another
chance to get a solid win

1041
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:45,900
against a long time.
ACC Coastal photo there and then

1042
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:48,900
at the end of the season, I
think UVA is always going to be

1043
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:50,200
there.
It's always going to be the most

1044
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200
important, get one of.
If not the most important game

1045
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,400
on your schedule and with them
returning, Brandon Armstrong,

1046
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:57,900
you know, they're going to be,
they're going to be a

1047
00:57:57,908 --> 00:57:59,900
competitive team this year,
despite the fact that they're

1048
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:03,300
also bringing in a brand new
head coach with, with Tony

1049
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:05,400
Elliot.
So it's pretty simple.

1050
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,400
West Virginia UNC and UVA, it's
a pretty classic lineup.

1051
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:13,400
That's funny daddy.
Uh that was actually my

1052
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,400
original.
I talked myself into putting BC

1053
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,500
in there instead of West
Virginia so I got no qualms with

1054
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:20,900
that 3 Vito.
What's your 3?

1055
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,000
My three going to be different
to everybody else's because I

1056
00:58:25,008 --> 00:58:31,000
think a little different Wofford
and listen to me, we bout to put

1057
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
50 of them hoes on walk with
Barbara, the most important game

1058
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,100
on the season.
When today's teens, I don't want

1059
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:40,100
to make this shit about fun to
the whole time swint.

1060
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:45,200
A said the team wasn't built to
blow out Richmond teams like

1061
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,900
Middle Tennessee, State teams,
like may know, not mean the

1062
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:52,400
Rhode Island coming up.
Up in the Burgh feeling

1063
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,600
comfortable, right?
I want them to make an example

1064
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,800
out of offer, bro.
I won't fit them hoes.

1065
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,800
At least I want to see the third
stringers in.

1066
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,900
I want to see Walk-Ons in that
game snowcat, bro.

1067
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:10,000
I'm tired of seeing wild for
these FCS schools, coming in and

1068
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,600
laying feeling comfortable, bro.
That I'm a know everything.

1069
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,300
I need to know why offered game
for real for real next game.

1070
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:21,100
Liberty the fuck?
Losing the Liberty?

1071
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,300
No bro, no, Malik Williams gone.
We should we should have beat

1072
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,600
them by 50 with Millie Willis,
its Liberty.

1073
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:30,300
That's keep it.
A buck man.

1074
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Liberty came in came in the
bird, comfortable kick my feet

1075
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,600
up.
Shout Out J, Hamm.

1076
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,900
That was some dumb shit.
You did, bro, but we shouldn't

1077
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,700
even have been in that position.
No Liberty game.

1078
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:46,400
Two most important game of the
season and then game three NC

1079
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,000
State because, um, I think if NC
State got a number beside their

1080
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,900
name the boys are wake up and
playing them what they NC State

1081
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,300
they ain't known for doing shit
for real none.

1082
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,500
So let's say n c-- State don't
got a number by their name we

1083
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:07,600
might bullshit 11 to again.
Flake so while for Liberty NC

1084
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,400
State was no ranking beside
their name most important games

1085
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,300
this season.
There we go.

1086
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,600
I like it.
I like it.

1087
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:16,900
I like the way you want us to
get back to just stomping on

1088
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:19,400
some throats.
Being somebody's ass.

1089
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,200
If you come in here and you're
not, you're not, you're not with

1090
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,500
it.
We need to, we need to go ahead

1091
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:27,900
and just hang half, a hundred on
you and put you back on the bus.

1092
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,300
Love it, love it.
I John, you got to follow that

1093
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:35,900
up, man.
But I think you can do it.

1094
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,900
Yeah.
So I'm going to change my person

1095
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:41,800
but Imma keep it 100.
Do you set the tone for me?

1096
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,000
That's the first game of the
season.

1097
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:46,300
That's the first game of the
season.

1098
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:31,400
Proud of what we are trying to
get back and we, you this you

1099
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,700
did.
They bring all their former

1100
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:35,400
players bag all this stuff.
So I'm excited about the

1101
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,200
robbery.
I'm ready to have this robbery

1102
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,800
back because I have to UVA, is
to me, Miami is second.

1103
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,600
I feel like that's a lot of
former players to the, we came

1104
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,500
in hate Miami, because they
think they better not always

1105
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,700
thought they were better know.
So, that's a big one for me, new

1106
01:01:49,700 --> 01:01:52,200
coaches, you know, trying to get
that Foundation back.

1107
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:57,200
And then obviously UVA, we got
to be UVA, new coach, but yeah,

1108
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,100
that's, that's my free.
Right on?

1109
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,700
I love that.
What I'm hearing.

1110
01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:05,300
Last two guys is we want to see
what we were.

1111
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:09,900
If you are the Lesser opponent,
don't play Down, smash them.

1112
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,900
I loved on these Point, bring
the Walk-Ons.

1113
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,100
It's 56, nothing.
See if the walk-on can get to 60

1114
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:19,300
Burger, all right, David
Cunningham.

1115
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:22,400
You have to file a both of them
up so you have the floor sir?

1116
01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:26,100
Yeah it's going to be tough.
Know my my first thing is Old

1117
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:30,600
Dominion right off the bat man.
Like you know, you guys Guys

1118
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,700
might remember my, my, my famous
unsportsmanlike conduct picture

1119
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:35,500
from.
Oh, yeah.

1120
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:37,300
Well, the meaning game in 2018,
that's probably the best thing

1121
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:39,100
that came out of that game, to
be honest.

1122
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,600
This is a program that last time
you were in Norfolk, you got

1123
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:49,300
completely embarrassed, Virginia
Tech going to Old Dominion.

1124
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:53,400
Like Jonathan said, you know,
the in-state games on the road

1125
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,500
at Liberty at Old Dominion.
Those are games that the fan

1126
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:02,600
base doesn't really enjoy.
You know, you those I think the

1127
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,900
majority of the fan base would
agree you need to play those

1128
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:08,600
games at home but but Old
Dominion.

1129
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:13,900
This is a an opponent Ricky
Ronnie's the head coach.

1130
01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:16,400
Brent pry.
You know was a defensive

1131
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,300
coordinator at Penn State when
Ricky Ronnie was the offensive

1132
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:21,000
coordinator.
The staffs are going to know

1133
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,300
each other a lot.
You know, a lot of Penn State

1134
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:26,700
blood and between, but I think
just in general you're not

1135
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:30,300
playing at home, you're opening
up against a much.

1136
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:34,200
Your opponent but that should
matter it should be.

1137
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,300
This is a game that establishes
the culture for the many years

1138
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:42,300
to come in the program and kind
of wood what Don and John both

1139
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:46,500
said, you know, against the
delawares, the Rhode Island's,

1140
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:51,200
the furman's, the richman's, the
Liberties Virginia Tech in the

1141
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,100
Justin Fuente era never once
except for maybe that Delaware

1142
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:58,700
game in 2016 blue.
Any of those guys out, they were

1143
01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:02,000
always close games.
It took maybe was up by a

1144
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,000
touchdown against Rhode Island a
half-time in 2019 you know those

1145
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,600
are games where you need to get
guys development especially now

1146
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,600
that guys can play in four games
and also red shirt in the same

1147
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,600
year, you need to get those guys
in the games when he can Old

1148
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,500
Dominion, you got to start off
strong.

1149
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:24,200
My second game is West Virginia.
I think this is the Boston

1150
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,700
College game is going to be
exciting, but but West Virginian

1151
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:30,200
means more.
I'm sure Brent prai is going to

1152
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,100
Guys, juice.
Ready to go on a Thursday night,

1153
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:38,500
it's going to be what 20, it's
going to be 20 something years

1154
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:43,300
to the day that Virginia.
Virginia Tech first played on a

1155
01:04:43,308 --> 01:04:45,100
Thursday night against West
Virginia.

1156
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:48,200
If I believe maybe that maybe
that 20 years but it'll be the

1157
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,500
anniversary that your plan on
Thursday night against West

1158
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:53,200
Virginia.
That's what Virginia Tech was

1159
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,000
kind of born on and especially
with the way everything ended

1160
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,000
the last year I think that
that's really important and then

1161
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,100
I'm Gonna pick a game for my
third.

1162
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,800
I think it might be the most
important game.

1163
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,500
Nobody's picked yet and that's
pit.

1164
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:12,000
Virginia Tech since since pit
join the ACC in 2012, Virginia

1165
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,400
Tech is one and four at Pitt.
It's no longer Heinz Field but I

1166
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,600
think the two best teams on the
schedule this year and they are

1167
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,200
who I picked as a media member
at ACC, meaning days to win a

1168
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:29,000
two divisions pit and NC State
pit Returns the most Talent.

1169
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:33,400
I guess returning starters in
the coastal.

1170
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,100
Miami might have the most talent
in North Carolina might, but I

1171
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,000
got in our dues, you can develop
guys and NC State.

1172
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,500
I picked NC State to win the
conference.

1173
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:46,200
I just think NC State returns so
many guys, but but NC State so

1174
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,600
late in the season I think if
you're not going to know exactly

1175
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,500
what you're going to have, you
know what if some guys get

1176
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:57,000
injured, you know, in that Miami
game that game so late, I think

1177
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,200
it's important to set the tone
on the road.

1178
01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:03,700
Dat pizza place at Virginia Tech
has only won once in recent

1179
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:09,800
memory and pit is a pit is a
team that is going to be good.

1180
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,000
It's kind of a measuring stick
game so to speak pit and NC

1181
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,100
State as well.
That's kind of like the fourth

1182
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,500
fourth team on my list, you
know?

1183
01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:23,800
And those games where you are
playing, good competition in

1184
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,400
this first year where Brent
price hasn't necessarily got all

1185
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,000
his guys in the still kind of
establishing the the culture

1186
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:35,100
building it layer by layer, you
need to know what you have, and

1187
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,600
Old Dominion games going to be
really good for the culture.

1188
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,000
You'll know the West Virginia
game, you know, with with all

1189
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,700
the crazy people coming to town
and then that pit game on the

1190
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:47,500
road, it's never easy place to
win.

1191
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,700
I think the fan base will know a
lot about this team after that,

1192
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,600
Pittsburgh game.
When you got Miami, then you got

1193
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,400
to open week and then you got to
go down to Raleigh.

1194
01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:01,700
All right, first of all, the
whites upset that I didn't go

1195
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:04,800
last because we cook all.
But here's the thing to White,

1196
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:12,000
we know bring your right.
No, no, I'm not even the same

1197
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,300
kind of responsive now but look
at the end of the day, man, like

1198
01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:17,000
there's no right?
Or wrong answers, our opinions.

1199
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,800
But I agree with everybody said,
you can't really go wrong with

1200
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,200
anything.
I just say this like real quick,

1201
01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:24,800
I played against the mind be
ghosts, so I played against I

1202
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,300
was just watching.
I got home from work early, they

1203
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:30,600
ran both Both Miami 3430 today.
If you were home, they had the

1204
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,700
one under neighbor show, the
other one.

1205
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:35,100
And I was part of that rivalry
with Miami.

1206
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,800
I was part of the team that beat
them for the first time.

1207
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:40,600
All those household names.
I went against them.

1208
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,800
So I'm not part of this height
train.

1209
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,200
I'm not going to make this Miami
game, more than what it is.

1210
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,500
As far as old, crystal ball.
They've always had better

1211
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,000
so-called talent, but that's
because we don't get the same

1212
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,000
respect until we smack him in
the face.

1213
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,500
So I we betray Louis.
I beat it read.

1214
01:07:57,900 --> 01:08:01,100
Everybody that can talk about.
So I'm not about to see here on

1215
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:04,800
this show, insights Miami
because of some dude named Steve

1216
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,400
with glasses.
That runs 24/7 is telling me my

1217
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,000
name is got a great class, y'all
miss me with that.

1218
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:12,300
I've been, I've been in five
years of battles with them.

1219
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:14,100
I'm not going, are they going to
be good?

1220
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:17,200
Yeah, but I mean whatever bro so
they're not on my list.

1221
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,000
I'm gonna tell you like this.
I'ma tell you like oh, do you

1222
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:22,500
Liberty and Walford?
That's just, I'm lumping them

1223
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,399
together.
Like David and Jonathan said, I

1224
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:27,200
don't know how many times during
the Fuente area.

1225
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,800
We were In scoring points in
that first half, when it was

1226
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,500
scripted, or we had everything
going our way when it was time

1227
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:35,899
to make adjustments or when
adversity entered the stadium.

1228
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:40,500
We crumble after that, Greg
Stroman Edmonds, brother era,

1229
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:43,700
and the ERA with Bucky and
Isaiah Ford.

1230
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:47,200
And cams, and all those guys,
when those guys left, we lost a

1231
01:08:47,207 --> 01:08:49,300
lot of dogs.
We lost McReynolds with all sit

1232
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:51,700
down and say Alexander's, we
lost the Trayvon Hills.

1233
01:08:51,899 --> 01:08:54,899
We didn't have any dogs
consistently that when the game

1234
01:08:54,899 --> 01:08:59,300
got tough, we crumble as dombey
and Out there said too many

1235
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:02,300
teams like Liberty was real
comfortable in Blacksburg.

1236
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,700
You know what I'm saying?
How many times were you in the

1237
01:09:04,707 --> 01:09:07,500
stadium you at home?
And you went to the, you know,

1238
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:10,399
your during the old days you
went to the bathroom.

1239
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,000
You already up 21.
A blocked punt and a pick six.

1240
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:15,100
We were struggling with
Richmond.

1241
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,600
Last year Richmond.
I need to see us going to OD.

1242
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,200
I was my oldest daughter is
going o to you.

1243
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:25,300
She's moving in in two weeks.
She chose 0 to you, and I was

1244
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:27,700
down there for orientation.
They feeling real good.

1245
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,899
Good about big nuts.
I can tell you right now I'm

1246
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:33,899
from the 757 and old you.
It's feeling real good about

1247
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:35,899
that game.
So they're on my list.

1248
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,899
I combined them, while for the
Liberty, the other game I got,

1249
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:44,200
it's a tie between you and Steve
and UVA or getting.

1250
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,200
I got to be creative because I'm
going last.

1251
01:09:46,300 --> 01:09:48,500
And that's only because you
recruit the same players and

1252
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:53,200
there's this misconception that
UNC since Mack Brown's got near,

1253
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,000
they've been killing us and they
haven't, you only beat this one

1254
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,700
time.
You don't say, Even in that time

1255
01:09:58,700 --> 01:10:02,200
we've had, we started from my
sister and we waited to put in

1256
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,200
hinden hooker and he finally
came in and we came back and it

1257
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,100
was a ball game but waited too
late.

1258
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,500
Other than that, you only see
has not shown anything despite

1259
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:13,100
all these recruits because I'm
not one of those guys is going

1260
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:14,800
to tell you.
They're killing it like that,

1261
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,100
because if you, if you were
being honest on the boundary

1262
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:21,000
Corner podcast, a lot of these
high-profile recruits.

1263
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,100
They've gotten have not panned
out and it's been three years.

1264
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:26,500
So don't talk about their
killing it.

1265
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,000
It's been three years.
Ears.

1266
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Okay.
So UNC and West Virginia to me

1267
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,500
or UNC and UVA those.
Our culture games where you VA

1268
01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:37,900
is in the same boat, we are,
they feeling real good?

1269
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,500
They feel like Elliot's going to
take the state, where our

1270
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:43,600
recruiting them now they got,
they got it, they got some guys

1271
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,300
on staff, some former player.
So I think you continue the

1272
01:10:46,308 --> 01:10:48,600
streak against them or
contribute continue that mindset

1273
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,500
and beating them.
That's going to be real helpful

1274
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:54,300
and like keeping that Mystique
that that Stranglehold, we have

1275
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:58,300
over there mentally, and then of
the other guy, You can throw in

1276
01:10:58,300 --> 01:10:59,900
the game.
I'm not really going to type of

1277
01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:02,800
NC State like that.
I think like David say, NC

1278
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,900
State.
Even that year my cousin went

1279
01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:07,400
down there when they were NC
State was favored.

1280
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,400
The only time they really dog is
like that was our first year in

1281
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,900
ACC after that talk tough laws
to USC SC.

1282
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:18,000
And then we came home and they
had defensive line, they all

1283
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,400
went to NFL and they they
sacked.

1284
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,500
Brian Randall like eight times.
That was a great new NC State

1285
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:26,200
team.
Other than that, typically,

1286
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,600
Virginia Tech even during the
winter.

1287
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,300
They are.
And even when Beamer was there,

1288
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:31,600
we play teams like Louisville
and NC State.

1289
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,700
We tend to kind of rise up to
them.

1290
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,500
It's the inferior opponents.
We struggle against.

1291
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:40,000
So, I mean, that's my list, man.
I mean, I don't think anybody I

1292
01:11:40,008 --> 01:11:42,800
think all this were great but to
me, you can probably hear the

1293
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,000
passion of my voice, man.
I'm just tired of our brand,

1294
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,000
taking a hit, I'm tired.
Like I grew up in the era where

1295
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,300
Miami always got more hype than
us but that reason why I didn't

1296
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:55,100
like that.
I didn't want that game to

1297
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:58,500
change because that was always a
good measuring stick for Just

1298
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:00,800
like West Virginia when I played
them every year was a good

1299
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,900
measuring stick because those
are culture games because Miami,

1300
01:12:04,900 --> 01:12:09,000
again, I think somebody posted
on Twitter the day when they

1301
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,000
were really, really good.
They had your Corey Harris.

1302
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,000
They were supposed to be back.
They were recognizing the

1303
01:12:14,008 --> 01:12:15,400
nation.
We were rating them, 11 2009,

1304
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:20,700
smoke them, 30 127.
Yep, before the UNC and said it

1305
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:24,100
was raining too hard.
Okay, Ryan Williams and Tyrod,

1306
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:26,300
Taylor went crazy.
Anyone that knows the game knows

1307
01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:27,600
tie rod was better that you
Cory.

1308
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:29,300
Harris.
But who was getting on the

1309
01:12:29,308 --> 01:12:30,900
height?
Jacory Harris.

1310
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,500
That's just because my auntie
will always get the hike.

1311
01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:37,000
So, don't let these guys named
Steve who you on these sites,

1312
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,500
man.
What if you couldn't tell

1313
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:43,400
College GameDay a damn thing
that week I will never ever

1314
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,100
forget it.
They were saying Jacory Heisman,

1315
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:49,600
he was gonna come in there.
Blow the doors off of us and all

1316
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,500
of a sudden the elements.
It was a it was like a monsoon.

1317
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:54,700
It was it was a monsoon.
Yeah.

1318
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,200
Out.
Oh my gosh.

1319
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,800
Yeah that's why my parents are
dumb and pouring down rain.

1320
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,800
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Like you get the right guys in

1321
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,800
Blacksburg my dad, getting the
gospel, how the springs, and the

1322
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,100
right guys in.
You get the guys understand, you

1323
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,600
know, coach.
And when I say go during, I

1324
01:13:10,608 --> 01:13:13,300
ain't talking about getting DUIs
and getting arrested, I'm

1325
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:15,400
talking about when you were on
the field, you know, they're

1326
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,100
going to bring it, you know,
they don't have a sense of

1327
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:20,100
urgency on every play when you
take pride and maybe that

1328
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,600
includes the personal foul and
maybe that could include some

1329
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,400
intimidation.
But I made it a day that's when

1330
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,600
I watch this.
It was very tuck your shirt in.

1331
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:30,500
Crisp Shake hand, pull up, help
a guy up.

1332
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,200
That's just not my type of
football.

1333
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,900
I want to get back to take
football when we were, you know,

1334
01:13:34,900 --> 01:13:37,200
people hated as people forget
real quick and I'm gonna shut

1335
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,300
up.
People forget that in Old floor,

1336
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:44,000
they did not want us in the ACC
because we were physical.

1337
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,500
They said, I brand of football
was to grimy.

1338
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,800
You know, I'm saying?
So I can't wait to do to you

1339
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,600
again because they talking I'm
telling you right now guys, and

1340
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,500
everybody watching and
listening, they talking real

1341
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,800
greasy down there.
They feel like it's going to be

1342
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,600
sweet.
I'm just telling y'all that's my

1343
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,500
get it.
I'm hearing the same thing every

1344
01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:05,700
time I'm down there.
I'm hearing it Odie, Odie, you

1345
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:07,800
going to put up the real good
fight.

1346
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,700
We got to go, we got to go out
and set the tone and make sure

1347
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:13,700
that that thing is settled by
halftime.

1348
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,600
Listen, listen, if we lose that
game, bro, all this stuff we

1349
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,900
doing all your great shows, all
this buildup, What changes if

1350
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:25,700
anything ruin the deeper hole?
You can't do that game.

1351
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,800
You can't lose that game.
That's a, that's a recruiting

1352
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,400
bed that we are trying to
re-establish.

1353
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,800
Good relationship with its at
their place.

1354
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:41,100
It said, they're in the 757.
It's a team that on paper, we

1355
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,600
should squash.
If you don't go and do it,

1356
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,600
that's a problem. 100 pattern on
a Ian Brown we got a bunch of

1357
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,000
questions here believe it or not
so I'll let you start picking

1358
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,400
them out.
I'm going to pick one here

1359
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,900
because we got this texted to us
because I buddy Robbie Compton.

1360
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:00,300
He's a coach down at North
Wilkesboro, he wanted to ask

1361
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,800
basically the offensive linemen
and start with John here.

1362
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:08,300
How much did life change going
from playing High School

1363
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,700
offensive line to power five
offensive line as far as the

1364
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:15,600
time to prepare your commitment
and level of opponent.

1365
01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:18,100
I'll let John John, you lead the
white if you want to chip

1366
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,400
anything in because you did the
same thing. 30 years ago.

1367
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:23,400
Oh man.
It was, it was nice day, man.

1368
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,000
Not when I got to college the
speed of the game.

1369
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,500
We are as you get going you get
smarter in the game and you

1370
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:52,800
know, their health watching them
and honestly getting a different

1371
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,300
program helped me a lot.
So I would say oh say is like

1372
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:58,100
night and day man.
Well, from high school to

1373
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,600
college the biggest a big job
Why didn't think that on top of

1374
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,900
that?
Yeah, I'll be quick.

1375
01:16:04,900 --> 01:16:06,800
Then, you know, because I just
finished talking a lot, but I'll

1376
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,700
just say he's a, he's a hundred
percent right, bro.

1377
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,700
Like it did the day, I always
say when it comes to recruiting

1378
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,500
rankings, and look at the office
and I'm in high school, I think

1379
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:18,300
that's the toughest position to
evaluate because, you know, I

1380
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:20,500
think and I played during the
Golden Era, the peninsula

1381
01:16:20,500 --> 01:16:23,900
districts, I want to get some
dogs are fevers and and Bethel,

1382
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:27,700
and and Warrick and Menchville,
but at the same time, there was

1383
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:30,000
nice men and scrimmages or
regular season games, I was

1384
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,700
going against a guy to the, like
a Toddler.

1385
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:33,800
You know, you just came to my
waist.

1386
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,000
I was just look at him and look
in the stands while I was

1387
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,900
blocking him, but then you get
the text.

1388
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,400
You're going against Cornell
Brown, John eagleburger Corey

1389
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,500
Moore called Bradley David few
and Nate Nate Williams and you

1390
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:47,400
don't kiss of men.
And it's just one of those

1391
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,300
things you got to be physically
tough agile, and also be able to

1392
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:54,300
think because the offensive line
position you have to be

1393
01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:57,400
aggressive, and you have to know
how to block One play, eight,

1394
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,700
different ways, depending on
what front, you're going to see

1395
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,400
and that stuff.
And you got to be able to do it

1396
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,700
because you know, you won't know
who I am until I miss a blocked.

1397
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:08,700
You know.
So if it's an adjustment.

1398
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,700
Yeah.
Okay.

1399
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:14,200
I would do it, the white change
our, our deepest line was almost

1400
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,600
better than everybody ACC, so
I'm not sure if I can get better

1401
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:27,000
with them, you know, like you
said, so.

1402
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,700
Yeah, I'll talk about, you know,
High School guys being small.

1403
01:17:35,700 --> 01:17:38,500
I mean, I played III, I'm six
foot in cleats.

1404
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:42,700
Played it about 245 in high
school with there was some, some

1405
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:46,000
small ass, guys, I was going
again, so, compared to to you

1406
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,000
two gentlemen.
I know that's that, you know,

1407
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:51,800
that jump from going against,
you know, occasionally players

1408
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,700
like that.
To, you know, everybody is

1409
01:17:55,700 --> 01:17:59,700
running around with, with your
size, your agility for that

1410
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:01,100
sized.
I think that's the big thing

1411
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,700
that You know, people sometimes
discount is like, you know, you

1412
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:09,400
know, people are 64 65 out there
320 pounds and can fucking move.

1413
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:15,800
And I think that, you know, some
people don't really, really

1414
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,100
think about that sometimes.
So that's good to kind of, kind

1415
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:20,600
of put that out there for the
listeners.

1416
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,000
The next one, we got here.
This is kind of to everybody.

1417
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,800
So, you know, let me know who
you want to, who wants to jump

1418
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,400
in.
On this one first, this is from

1419
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,000
Um, at hunker down hokey on
Twitter, with all of our

1420
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,900
exceptional skill players.
All of our experience skill

1421
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:42,200
players being more role players
than home run hitters.

1422
01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:45,500
Who is this often, who in this
offense, is going to emerge as

1423
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:52,200
the big play threat in 2022.
And I'll actually kick it over

1424
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,400
to Mike first a live mic lead on
this one.

1425
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,800
If you got something like yeah
Malachi Thomas.

1426
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,200
I mean we saw glimpses of it
last year but I think it's going

1427
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,200
to have to be to Malachi or
maybe Keshawn.

1428
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,800
King like David mentioned
earlier, like someone who has

1429
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,600
shown the potential and has
produced at times throughout

1430
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,400
their career and Keyshawn skin
Keyshawn Kings case or you know

1431
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,700
at times last year in Malachi
Thomas's case.

1432
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:19,500
And you know all indications are
Malachi Thompson.

1433
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:20,400
Put some way.
Ontario.

1434
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,700
So I think that's huge, that's a
concern over the course of a

1435
01:19:23,708 --> 01:19:27,400
full season, you know, last year
he was playing, he was so lean

1436
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,100
when he was playing last year.
That was a concern.

1437
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:32,000
If he was going to, you know,
kind of project this forward

1438
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,400
over a full season, you know,
what was that going to look like

1439
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,500
health-wise form, but I think
it's going to have to be

1440
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:40,800
somebody in the running back
room at potentially day.

1441
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,400
One Lofton tube though.
If you look at like the

1442
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,000
receiving Corps like we haven't
really seen enough of him yet.

1443
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,200
To really make an indication one
way or another, if he's going to

1444
01:19:48,208 --> 01:19:51,300
be kind of like a home run
hitting, Type guy, but he's got

1445
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:53,100
some serious speed.
So if you get the ball in his

1446
01:19:53,100 --> 01:19:55,900
hands, I think that that, that
would be something I think that

1447
01:19:55,900 --> 01:19:59,100
would benefit Tech as well.
But yeah, I mean I think the

1448
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:02,200
question is fair like a lot of
the experienced guys, were

1449
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,100
carrying our kind of more roll
guys, or at least that's been

1450
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:08,600
their role so far.
It's just been possession type

1451
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,200
receivers and like, Kayla
Smith's case writer, you know, a

1452
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,900
guy who's been like a goal line
type, a core has been in and out

1453
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:16,900
of the running back rotation,
like Jalen holson.

1454
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:18,900
So who's that guy going to be?
And I think it's either going to

1455
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,100
be mouth.
Tom szaky, Chongqing.

1456
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Yeah, we saw ballot kind of jump
out with two big games last year

1457
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,600
and then we didn't see a whole
lot of him down the stretch

1458
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,200
there, so it's going to be good
to see if he can kind of settle

1459
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,400
into a consistent role for us
this year and because we really,

1460
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:39,400
I mean, thinking back, Herbert,
20, 20 years side, we it's been

1461
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,500
a long time since we've had a
consistent lead back, so be nice

1462
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,400
to have a guy that we can see
that from maybe in back-to-back

1463
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,600
years.
Finally have a truly back again.

1464
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,000
So it's, you know, David Mann
that.

1465
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:55,700
Yeah, not since David Wilson as
we had guys like, don't don't

1466
01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:58,800
forget Khalil Herbert.
Now, I know but.

1467
01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:00,300
But I mean, I'm saying David.
Yeah.

1468
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:02,100
I was thinking back to back.
Back to back years.

1469
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:10,400
I have to vacuum trap for that
guy.

1470
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,600
I think it's is where we always
want to find someone as it, is

1471
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,700
it, anybody sneaky out there,
you know, we're hearing things

1472
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:22,200
about Tucker, Holloway being
fast, A, he's a true freshman, I

1473
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,200
can't see that.
I mean, is it someone in the

1474
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,800
return game?
I know colbeck return colbeck

1475
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,500
fast, but you're not gonna put
cold back out there and play

1476
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:32,800
wide out.
But can you, can you Kenny

1477
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,400
Kitty?
Do a kickoff return and I hope

1478
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,200
David and a few weeks.
They let you guys into those

1479
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:42,400
sessions because it got runs a
10-1, 300 meters, he's gonna

1480
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,600
return kicks.
He's gonna return case bumper.

1481
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:49,400
I already said that, okay, I
watched him play.

1482
01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:56,800
That kid was a freak on kickoff
returns, he'll be out there.

1483
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,700
Yes, so to answer the quote back
question.

1484
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,800
I mean, he's going to be a guy
that they're going to get the

1485
01:22:02,808 --> 01:22:05,600
ball to in space, right?
You know his hands they've

1486
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,100
talked you know, Brent Pride
mentioned last week, his hands

1487
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,600
of his hands are fine, you know,
but he also hasn't really

1488
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,800
touched a football play
competitive football in for five

1489
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,600
years now you know it's been a
while, he's not going to catch a

1490
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,500
slant.
Across the middle and traffic.

1491
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:23,700
He's going to be a guy.
You throw it to the flat and you

1492
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,000
let him do a couple guys.
Yeah, put him.

1493
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,200
They work for you.
Put him in week three.

1494
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,400
We only know experiments week
one, we treat.

1495
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,100
I did research after that game.
As far as the record goes back

1496
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:20,600
to 1987 which is when Frank
Beamer first started, Is it

1497
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,700
first true freshman Drew
freshman ever to record three

1498
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:28,000
touchdowns in the game and then
you know he disappeared down the

1499
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,400
stretch and got you know didn't
have more than seven rushing

1500
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,300
attempts in the final four games
of the Season.

1501
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,000
He had inconsistent touches how
Virginia Tech uses him and this

1502
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,100
will be a question.
I'm sure somebody will ask stew

1503
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:44,700
hope tomorrow at media day.
How Virginia Tech uses the

1504
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:46,700
running backs.
Virginia Tech needs to have

1505
01:23:46,700 --> 01:23:50,700
balance on the offense.
It can't be just running the

1506
01:23:50,708 --> 01:23:53,800
ball or just passing the ball in
the receiving game.

1507
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,600
I think Caleb Smith.
We saw what he could do during

1508
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,200
the Spring Game and I think I
think there was such a

1509
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:05,000
disconnect after Holman Wiggins
left in that wide receiver room.

1510
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:10,600
You know, Caleb Smith again was
told to go, he was suggested to

1511
01:24:10,608 --> 01:24:13,000
go play at FCS level, or did he
d 2?

1512
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,500
And we saw him torchin, you
know, Virginia Tech's dbe's left

1513
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:18,200
and right.
And the spring game he had 250

1514
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,800
plus yard touchdowns with Grant
Wells.

1515
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,400
We know the arm Grant Wells has.
I think it's going to be either

1516
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:27,600
malachite Thomas or Caleb Smith
in the passing game.

1517
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,100
You know one of those guys.
Guys is kind of going to have to

1518
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,600
come up and make some big plays,
but it's gonna have to be a

1519
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,000
balance and it cannot just be
the two of them contributing

1520
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,300
because it is just the two of
them contributing.

1521
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,200
You're going to see an offense
is going to stall a lot and you

1522
01:24:41,208 --> 01:24:44,500
know we all know what happens
when when you only have two or

1523
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:47,800
three contributors make it easy
for the defense to man up on

1524
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,200
them.
Yeah, I agree with that.

1525
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,400
I agree with that 100%.
And I think that, you know, when

1526
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,700
you look at Caleb Smith, I think
his leadership is obviously

1527
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:58,700
going to be probably the key
attribute attribute.

1528
01:24:58,700 --> 01:25:03,100
He brings to the table this
year, but having that veteran

1529
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:06,500
presence in that room, I think
is going to be a benefit for

1530
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:09,600
everybody across the board as
well, but I'm going to go to

1531
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,700
another question here.
This one's also kind of to

1532
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:15,300
everybody.
This is from at John underscore,

1533
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,600
Earl ivy on Twitter, Stephen,
Earl.

1534
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,100
How important will it be to have
the same starting quarterback

1535
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:30,600
for all 12 games in the 2022
season and I'm going to kick it

1536
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,400
to.
Let's see who, let's get Don.

1537
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,700
Vila da bu lead off on this one
if you want to.

1538
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,500
You said the same quarterback
for all 12 games.

1539
01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:44,200
Yeah, you don't mean shit.
If he asks, I mean, is he good?

1540
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:52,200
Okay, he's above me.
All right.

1541
01:25:58,900 --> 01:26:02,100
The die.
But yeah he played I mean really

1542
01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:05,300
he threw some Hospital balls in
the spring game bro he could

1543
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:07,500
have he gonna get somebody
killed in a real game broke?

1544
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,000
I mean we don't talk for real,
we don't talk for real.

1545
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,400
Yeah.
I'm gonna ballsy throwing that

1546
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,700
spring and get somebody killed
in a real game, bro.

1547
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:20,800
Like let's keep it a band.
Yeah, I mean like well it's

1548
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,300
definitely I think impressed me
the most in the spring game.

1549
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:26,700
Those two touchdown passes.
The Caleb Caleb Smith we can do

1550
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,100
that.
That every game, fantastic.

1551
01:26:29,900 --> 01:26:32,700
I mean, I don't care.
You see what happened with and

1552
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:35,200
this is a knock on anyone, but
you saw what happened with Ryan,

1553
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,400
Willis, few years back and
headed hooker comes in and takes

1554
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,400
over.
And, you know, then hendon's the

1555
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,500
guy, it's like, I want who's
best.

1556
01:26:43,700 --> 01:26:47,100
I was playing the best at this
point, it doesn't matter.

1557
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:49,100
Whoever is the best man for the
job.

1558
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:54,400
That's why I went out there.
Always Baby, you got anything on

1559
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:59,600
this one?
I mean I will just say this oh

1560
01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:02,300
sorry I thought you said David
not to go ahead Danny that

1561
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:07,200
worries guys AI it starts and
ends with Grant Wells this year

1562
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,400
I mean it's going to start then
with it the quarterback position

1563
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,300
is it always will there's not
really anything you don't need

1564
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:15,700
to think too hard about that.
I've heard Malachi Thomas

1565
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:17,700
brought up to we didn't really
get to see him at all in the

1566
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:22,600
spring game obviously but once
they solidified the quarterback

1567
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,100
position we get the announcement
we get that offensive line in

1568
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,500
place.
They just need to start cranking

1569
01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:28,800
it out.
That's all that it comes down to

1570
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,200
for me.
I want to see somebody played 12

1571
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,400
games because I think if we have
somebody played 12 games, Wells

1572
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,000
Brown, whoever it means we
didn't get the offensive line

1573
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,300
injured because I think if you
if you tell me we have

1574
01:27:41,900 --> 01:27:44,100
quarterback, you know, Grant
Wells, played 8 games, Jason

1575
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,200
Brown played for somebody on the
offensive line got hurt and they

1576
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,100
got the shit knocked out of them
once or twice and they were out

1577
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:53,500
multiple weeks.
So I'd love to see one guy.

1578
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:56,100
But the Dons point if he's ass,
it doesn't matter.

1579
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,700
If he's asked you got to pull
him.

1580
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,100
Now he goes out there and plays
solid solid.

1581
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:03,600
I'm not I don't expect.
I don't expect spectacular but

1582
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,900
if you play solid lean on the
bread fried defense I'd be found

1583
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:11,500
the guy going 12 games you can
you can win games with a game

1584
01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:14,200
manager.
It's true that we can't wait.

1585
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,900
I mean it's is offense,
Wednesday is offense.

1586
01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:22,100
I used to like it when he had
manageable quarterbacks because

1587
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:25,600
it's a quarterback friendly
offense until he forces them to

1588
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,600
run too much.
Much.

1589
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:29,900
And that's what he did with her
and my sister and even Gerard

1590
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:34,200
another quarterbacks it was, it
was too many quarterback powers

1591
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,800
and too many runs.
When you have running backs that

1592
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,200
can do the same thing.
I think, you know, I know Tyler

1593
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:44,000
born, I knew Tyler born before
he came to Virginia Tech and I

1594
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,400
talked to him, he'll he they
know what they're doing.

1595
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,200
I mean as far as you noted on
these point about him being an

1596
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,000
ass, I think that's anything.
I think it's a competition with

1597
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:54,500
prize.
God.

1598
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:56,100
Now he doesn't get it done,
they're going to look elsewhere.

1599
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,300
Swear but I think right now it's
more.

1600
01:28:58,300 --> 01:29:01,700
So while putting putting the
responsibility on everybody

1601
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:04,900
versus on one person.
I, you know I think a lot of

1602
01:29:04,900 --> 01:29:08,900
times there was too much put on
Burmeister and even it was a

1603
01:29:08,900 --> 01:29:10,800
quarterback from the offense.
Many, when I say that I'm

1604
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,700
talking about the Reeds and
everything they were forced to

1605
01:29:12,700 --> 01:29:16,100
make, they really have that many
reads, but the same time, you

1606
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:18,000
can't run your quarterbacks that
much.

1607
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,200
It just it just doesn't, it
doesn't prove to be successful.

1608
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,100
Let's, let's talk about that a
little bit more real quick

1609
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:27,600
because the one of the biggest
criticisms I had last year is

1610
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:34,100
that you've got the read option
in your, your tool book, right?

1611
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:39,500
But so often they were
essentially designed handoffs

1612
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,700
but then when you, so when
you're not decoying anything,

1613
01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:45,300
your quarterbacks no longer a
decoy, so when he's running,

1614
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:48,700
he's running, and when he's not,
he's not, you're not, there's an

1615
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:52,600
element of the offense that's
supposed to be the option and

1616
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,000
make Aching the defense confused
as to who's going to have the

1617
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,400
ball but you're taking that away
with the predictability of the

1618
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,800
calls.
So I mean that was my beef with

1619
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,000
with the way that things were
called last year and that hurt

1620
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:09,500
Burmeister when he's running the
ball because the defense is key

1621
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:11,900
in on that they're looking at it
and saying, okay, well they're

1622
01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:14,600
going to run power when they
when they go in this motion or

1623
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,300
when they're in this formation
and going this motion, I mean,

1624
01:30:17,300 --> 01:30:19,500
they were they were telegraphing
that all the time.

1625
01:30:20,500 --> 01:30:23,500
We saw it coming and the
defense's that we played song

1626
01:30:23,500 --> 01:30:27,900
Come into and Burmeister.
You know, the whole joke was the

1627
01:30:27,900 --> 01:30:30,100
perk Mi sure thing when he was
popping pills on the sidelines,

1628
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:32,900
trying to get back in the game.
I mean we got our quarterback,

1629
01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:37,500
that's getting beat the hell up
and we're not doing anything to

1630
01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:41,200
make, make his game, come to him
better and get him comfortable

1631
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,100
back there.
And I that was a consistent

1632
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:46,200
problem.
Throughout what at school.

1633
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,600
That's that's what I mean, about
skiing.

1634
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,100
Like a lot of times and those
after after Rod Evans and those

1635
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:54,600
guys left and then the following
you had Josh Axe and they still

1636
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,000
finished the season ranked they
won nine games but after that

1637
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,800
Talent left those two years left
they will force the coach.

1638
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,800
Those last three seasons, right?
Tip on what you saw was a lack

1639
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,400
of scheme and lack of
creativity.

1640
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,800
So for example, after by weeks
of off weeks, or even in the

1641
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,800
second half, you never saw any
place new place.

1642
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,600
You never saw any new situations
where they were ruins.

1643
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:19,100
Any wrinkles, you wouldn't see
anything, where they would take

1644
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,000
somebody and put them in the
slot where he was out at The X.

1645
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,300
Like they didn't, they didn't
mix things up.

1646
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,200
It wasn't really until that last
year, when they stay the fake

1647
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,900
field goal and fake, they got
Creek, has it?

1648
01:31:30,900 --> 01:31:34,800
They knew they were going to be
gone but to your point B, you

1649
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,800
know, a lot of that is more.
So just steaming and coaching,

1650
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,800
you know, and having wrinkles
and knowing how to use your

1651
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,600
personnel, you don't have to
look football, it's not a

1652
01:31:43,608 --> 01:31:45,800
complex for it.
When it comes to coaching, you

1653
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,500
got to just take your personnel
personnel and just to it a lot

1654
01:31:48,500 --> 01:31:51,700
of times, you know, with the No
offense plays.

1655
01:31:51,700 --> 01:31:55,100
We had they were predictable.
I mean, the Jet Sweep wasn't.

1656
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:59,200
The problem is that the timing
of when they called it a lot of

1657
01:31:59,208 --> 01:32:01,300
things work.
Next week it was the timing of

1658
01:32:01,300 --> 01:32:06,300
it situational play calling the
timing the location on the field

1659
01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:11,400
going into the boundary when you
did need to some of the most

1660
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,500
frustrating parts of the last
few years especially like you

1661
01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:16,900
run that jet Suite up to the
boundary and it's like second

1662
01:32:16,900 --> 01:32:20,000
and four.
Brian, you got to talk me off a

1663
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,600
ledge, he's like, you know, you
do that play and it works,

1664
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:24,700
you're going to get the first
down.

1665
01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:28,600
If it gets blown up, its third
and 11, its third and 12 it will

1666
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,400
get its, it doesn't make sense
to call that play to that side

1667
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,900
of the field in that situation.
And that's the one thing over

1668
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:40,900
the past. 34 Seasons that got
frustrating, it was

1669
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,700
situationally, you got worse,
and worse and worse in, you

1670
01:32:45,700 --> 01:32:49,600
know, somebody, you know, it was
on here is like, when was the

1671
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,000
moment that you felt for Wendy?
Wasn't the guy and it was

1672
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,700
Liberty.
I lost my shit.

1673
01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:57,200
Go back and listen to that
episode on 20/20.

1674
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,600
I literally lost my shit that
day on this podcast.

1675
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:02,700
And that's what that's when I
was done it.

1676
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:06,900
Because, you know, you looked on
the side, there was no juice

1677
01:33:06,900 --> 01:33:08,000
with the players.
Hers.

1678
01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:12,300
That's one of those games where
John the white Daniel made a

1679
01:33:12,308 --> 01:33:13,700
point.
We've all been discussing it.

1680
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:18,900
Go out there in squash them, go
out there and make them that our

1681
01:33:18,900 --> 01:33:21,600
bus ride the Lynchburg the most
miserable bus route of their

1682
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,800
life with ODU and the first game
of the season make that walk

1683
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,000
back to their locker room.
The most miserable Hundred-Foot

1684
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,500
walk of their life.
You need to make sure that they

1685
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:33,100
don't want to come back out
after halftime.

1686
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:35,100
Damn right.
You if teams like that rolling

1687
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:37,100
to your place, you need to make
sure that they don't want to

1688
01:33:37,108 --> 01:33:39,100
come out.
Halftime again.

1689
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,500
I mean, that that situation
football that kid.

1690
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,700
I think he transferred to some
do.

1691
01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:47,300
One day a school, but we were
playing Richmond last year.

1692
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:49,900
I think we had a turnover.
We stopped them and then they

1693
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:52,000
put him in the backup
quarterback and he threw away.

1694
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:56,200
Yes, that's what I mean about
like that that's not you can you

1695
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,300
don't need to be offensive
coordinator to know that we're

1696
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:02,900
not up enough to put it back at
backup quarterback in and we're

1697
01:34:02,900 --> 01:34:06,300
only we're at our own 20, you
know, it was a close game, he

1698
01:34:06,300 --> 01:34:08,400
threw a pick.
That's what I mean about.

1699
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,100
Like you can look at the Way
Forest game.

1700
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:13,400
We lost at Wake Forest.
We got what's-his-name Khalil

1701
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,100
Herbert and he's not touching
the ball.

1702
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:19,200
You know, who, you know, who's
running the ball that night and

1703
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,800
didn't hook her and he wasn't
100% know.

1704
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,700
That's why I said, some of this
stuff is skiing guys.

1705
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:29,000
It's team.
It's just when I think you guys,

1706
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,600
I think an interesting point
here and I'll make this real

1707
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,900
quick.
This is the first time in a

1708
01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:36,800
while where Virginia Tech's
offensive coordinator hasn't

1709
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,200
been the quarterback.
Coach.

1710
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:43,500
You've got Brad Glenn.
He's only the quarterbacks coach

1711
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,200
and when we got a chance to talk
to him back in March kind of

1712
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,700
when he was first hired, he and
all the other assistants and he

1713
01:34:49,700 --> 01:34:52,200
said he's really excited just to
only work with quarterbacks.

1714
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,700
You know he's been offensive
coordinator before, he knows how

1715
01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:58,800
it is but he can sit there and
develop Grant Wells, who I

1716
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,000
should remind you guys.
If you've forgotten, he's got

1717
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,900
another year after this and then
he's got a covid, your if he

1718
01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:06,900
wants it.
So he's got potentially three

1719
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:08,900
years.
Playing for Virginia Tech.

1720
01:35:08,900 --> 01:35:12,400
He might not be at his best this
year, maybe but he's got plenty

1721
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:17,200
of time to develop with, with a
quarterbacks coach, who is

1722
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,900
solely focused on him.
Now, how the communication works

1723
01:35:19,900 --> 01:35:22,400
with Brad, Glenn and Tyler bones
going to be interesting.

1724
01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:24,800
I'm sure that's something.
I don't think they'll come up

1725
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,000
throughout the season and, you
know, throughout the future.

1726
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:32,400
But but the development of the
quarterbacks with a, with a

1727
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,200
quarterback, only assistant, I
think that's going to be really

1728
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,300
interesting.
Yeah, I agree with you and I

1729
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:41,800
think that Dynamic is going to
be interesting to see how that

1730
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,600
works out.
You talked about having Glenn.

1731
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,000
There you also have, obviously
Rudolph has had some offensive

1732
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:53,600
coordinator experience as well.
So you got three guys that have

1733
01:35:54,100 --> 01:36:00,200
at least called 1 u 1 game in
their career at this point, you

1734
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,000
know.
So it's going to be interesting

1735
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,200
how they how that Dynamic works.
But I think there's a lot of

1736
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,800
potential there as we kind of
had into the season, but I'm

1737
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,400
going to I'm gonna jump over to
this next one.

1738
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,900
And this one is a little bit of
a different angle here and this

1739
01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:15,400
is to everybody.
So whoever wants to chime in go

1740
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,000
for it.
But this is from Matt Parker on

1741
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:24,300
YouTube is the hype around the
new coaches masking and obvious

1742
01:36:24,300 --> 01:36:29,900
below, 500 team.
So we getting spicy here, guys.

1743
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,800
I'll go first, I'll go first
here, I don't know if it's an

1744
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:39,000
obvious below, 500 team.
Like I talked about this off the

1745
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:45,900
top like the team that Fuente
inherited in 2016, from Beamer

1746
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:51,400
is a lot better than the team
prize inheriting in 2022 from

1747
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:56,000
Fuente.
With that being said, like This

1748
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,500
team still won six
regular-season games last year,

1749
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:02,300
right?
Like and I think they're

1750
01:37:02,300 --> 01:37:06,400
upgrading a quarterback.
I don't know if it's an obvious

1751
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,400
below, 500 team, and that's
before you even talk about the

1752
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:14,400
schedule itself, which there are
a lot of teams that lost a lot

1753
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,200
or have questions, write, like,
uva's got an entirely new

1754
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,500
coaching staff, UNC, has been
all bark, but no bite, right?

1755
01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:25,500
With Mack Brown, like
Pittsburgh.

1756
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,900
I think I agree with David,
like, Pittsburgh's really

1757
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:29,400
talented.
I think, you know, they're my

1758
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,700
pick to win the coastal, but,
you know, you can even like,

1759
01:37:32,700 --> 01:37:34,700
squint a little bit and they got
some questions too.

1760
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:35,800
Right.
Cadence Louis.

1761
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,500
A quarterback coming over USC,
like what does that look like

1762
01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:40,000
they lose?
Kenny picket, they lose your

1763
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,000
Nason.
So there's some questions are

1764
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,300
even though they have a lot of
talent.

1765
01:37:43,300 --> 01:37:46,800
Like every team's got questions,
Miami's got an entirely new

1766
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,700
coaching staff NC State under
Dave Turin.

1767
01:37:49,700 --> 01:37:53,600
Like anytime NC State's got
expectations, they tend to lose.

1768
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:57,700
So that's kind of where not
great, right?

1769
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:02,600
And so, and and like, ODU is a
winnable, Liberties winnable

1770
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:07,400
like everyone a winnable games
on the Will I just, I pushed

1771
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,200
back a little bit saying.
This is an obvious below. 500

1772
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,900
team now is the prai, is the
excitement over pry and the

1773
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:18,700
coaching staff for year one, you
know, making people's

1774
01:38:18,700 --> 01:38:22,000
expectations, maybe the fan
expectations a little bit higher

1775
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,300
than probably what they should
be.

1776
01:38:23,300 --> 01:38:26,800
Yeah, but I think it's like that
with almost any new coaching

1777
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,000
regime.
That's what happens, there's a

1778
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,900
bump, everybody's more excited
about the future than they were

1779
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:33,400
about the, you know that the
past.

1780
01:38:33,700 --> 01:38:36,000
So You know, I think that's part
of it.

1781
01:38:36,008 --> 01:38:38,100
I think that's natural.
Anytime, there's a coaching

1782
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:39,300
change.
We're moving on from something

1783
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:43,600
that didn't work out, but at the
same time, like I don't think

1784
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,300
this is an obvious below, 500
team.

1785
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,800
I just don't I'll see it.
I'm gonna say this real quick

1786
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:54,000
and everybody kind of gathering
think about last year, this team

1787
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,500
was on the doorstep of being
West, Virginia and Morgantown in

1788
01:38:57,500 --> 01:39:01,600
September on the door.
This close this team was one

1789
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,700
drive away from beating a 11 win
Notre.

1790
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,300
Main team in Lane Stadium.
Mmm, well, the that won't a joke

1791
01:39:08,300 --> 01:39:13,700
team last year they had them and
they let it slip Syracuse game.

1792
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,700
Literally a bomb in the last, 40
seconds, lose that game.

1793
01:39:17,900 --> 01:39:19,100
Dwight, I'm gonna throw it back
in.

1794
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,500
I've been talking with Brian
about this last week, all week

1795
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:28,600
you were there and you were
watching go 92 to 93 how clingy

1796
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:32,800
close games that team was in in
the next season.

1797
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,000
They went eight regular season.
Gaines A9 at the bowl.

1798
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,000
Well, yeah, you know I wish I
wasn't I wasn't there, but I was

1799
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,500
coming in but I know Rachel.
But yeah, Gracie, I was being

1800
01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:46,600
recruited by my was watching.
Grayson I know he wants to talk

1801
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,900
to I was just saying this, I
pulled up, I pulled up the

1802
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:52,300
record, it's funny.
You you did that Curtis because

1803
01:39:52,300 --> 01:39:54,300
that's where I was getting ready
to say to the guy watching them

1804
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:59,300
on the YouTube broadcast.
Is that even when Jonathan was,

1805
01:39:59,300 --> 01:40:03,300
there you go back, you know, Two
thousand, thirteen, fourteen and

1806
01:40:03,300 --> 01:40:06,300
fifteen seven and six Going to
68 and five and two thousand

1807
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:10,300
twelve seven and six right at
the end of the day, even if you

1808
01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:13,200
throw in the 2004 season, when
they won the ACC, their first

1809
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,700
year in ACC, there were several
games that could have went

1810
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:19,900
either way.
So, in some of those seven and

1811
01:40:19,900 --> 01:40:23,600
six and eight five seasons,
Beamers, last 45 years, there

1812
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,200
were several games, where was a
call?

1813
01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:28,600
A missed field goal of fumbled
snap.

1814
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:32,500
Even a year when they had Joshua
Jackson and they were playing

1815
01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:33,500
Oklahoma State.
Getting ready.

1816
01:40:33,500 --> 01:40:37,100
Go out 14 and And they fumbled
the ball at the goal line.

1817
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,300
If they score, they go and win
that game and they win 10 games

1818
01:40:40,300 --> 01:40:43,500
and point a second year.
Yeah, my point is not to become

1819
01:40:43,500 --> 01:40:47,500
clich��s but there's a fine line.
This is I'm just going to say

1820
01:40:47,500 --> 01:40:53,200
that you mentioned Curtis the 90
to 90 91 92 era, that's Rock.

1821
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,600
Bottom, bro.
Virginia Tech, fans have not

1822
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,400
seen Rock Bottom.
We just spoiled and we have high

1823
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,200
expectations.
My second Point.

1824
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,800
I'ma let, my man, Grayson Rock
the mic at the end of the day.

1825
01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:09,300
This is not hype around prai
nobody hyping up Tech we won't

1826
01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:12,300
get no votes.
You read you a was picked to

1827
01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:14,900
finish ahead of us in the
coastal.

1828
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,200
First time I've ever seen that,
bro.

1829
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,500
And then on top of we got no
votes.

1830
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:22,400
So at the end of the day, man,
like ain't no hike.

1831
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,000
What you have around Virginia
Tech fans is excitement because

1832
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,600
you can just see that things are
going and trending in the right

1833
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,400
way when it comes to in-state
recruiting, getting the right,

1834
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:36,200
Virginia Tech guys having a Now
that you have when a coach that

1835
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,000
lets his assistants interview
where we can no more than just a

1836
01:41:39,008 --> 01:41:41,800
head coach, there's a connection
with the fans.

1837
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:45,200
Again that's just people being
excited about someone caring

1838
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,400
about their program, the alumni
connecting, you know not just

1839
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,600
the football players.
But I mean Mike young and pride,

1840
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,500
you know they're tight, you
know, they're, you know, not

1841
01:41:53,500 --> 01:41:55,700
tight but they they got respect
for each other.

1842
01:41:55,700 --> 01:41:58,700
So is this the energy, man?
It's not about like nobody's

1843
01:41:58,700 --> 01:41:59,900
talking about Virginia Tech,
right?

1844
01:41:59,900 --> 01:42:02,800
Which is a great thing, but
knowing what a Grace, and I know

1845
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,500
you got to talk.
Well, no.

1846
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,500
What exactly what you just said
Dwight it's not about masking,

1847
01:42:08,500 --> 01:42:11,800
any type of wind situation or
whatever its people are excited.

1848
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,200
Like I don't know if you guys
remember.

1849
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,800
This is not the video of Brent
pry, Corps.

1850
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,800
Cadets first civilian snowball
fight and he's out on the drill

1851
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:24,300
field participating in that last
regime never did that.

1852
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:28,600
Never never, bring didn't even
pretend to want to do that and

1853
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,000
people could say, oh, Brent
price, putting on a front?

1854
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:32,500
No he's not.
That's him.

1855
01:42:32,900 --> 01:42:36,000
He wants to be out there.
He wants to be having a good

1856
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,700
time.
He's saying and doing all the

1857
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:42,100
right things and like At first
I'm like is he just doing this

1858
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,100
just to do it and I just saw
that Mark Packer came in and

1859
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:50,100
they did the ACC kind of round
table with Virginia Tech and you

1860
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:54,200
can tell that Brent try once.
Virginia Tech to be great.

1861
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:57,500
You can tell that he wants us to
be a national Powerhouse.

1862
01:42:57,500 --> 01:43:00,200
Again wants us to get back to a
winning culture.

1863
01:43:00,700 --> 01:43:04,500
And so it's not like it's not
about 500.

1864
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,000
Or less, it's about Virginia
Tech fans, being excited to have

1865
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,500
a head coach, who wants to be in
the building wants to be in,

1866
01:43:11,500 --> 01:43:15,100
Blacksburg cares about the fans.
Cares about the players cares,

1867
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:16,700
about all of it.
That's it.

1868
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:19,600
That's all.
I got.

1869
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:22,200
Awesome, Jersey.
Hey, I think John's got

1870
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,000
something he wants to kind of
piggyback on that with.

1871
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:26,000
Go ahead.
You got there?

1872
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:51,400
Yes, sir.
Period, that would make it

1873
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,200
exciting.
So I like the whites and we

1874
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,900
just, we everyone's so excited
to be haven't seen less problem.

1875
01:43:56,900 --> 01:43:59,200
So years, we haven't seen that,
you know.

1876
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,100
So it's coming more familiar
with what hope you make is all

1877
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:05,200
about.
That's all I got awesome.

1878
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:10,700
Yeah, I think we're seeing, you
know, We've seen what we, what

1879
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:12,400
we didn't have.
And I think now that we've seen

1880
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,000
what we have, I think we're
excited about that.

1881
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:18,500
And for what that means down the
road, I think we understand the

1882
01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:22,800
limitations that are potential
for 2022, just based on roster

1883
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:27,600
construction, and depth overall,
but that's not to say that it's

1884
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,600
an obvious below. 500 team
either.

1885
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,400
I think there is Talent on the
roster.

1886
01:44:31,900 --> 01:44:33,800
I just don't think we had as
prosthetic.

1887
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,400
I don't think we have enough of
it right now.

1888
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,600
Right.
So I think that's kind of the,

1889
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,300
the fact, the situation.
Hey, Brian and Brian that!

1890
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:43,500
That what you just last point
you just said that.

1891
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,100
Oh, geez, and people that coach
will pay attention.

1892
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:48,400
The media.
Know why he said that that's a

1893
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,200
motivating tool.
See people didn't hear that.

1894
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:53,200
People heard they don't have
enough Talent.

1895
01:44:53,300 --> 01:44:56,100
He is challenging the guys, and
the two and three deep.

1896
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:58,800
When he says I just don't think
we have enough of it.

1897
01:44:58,900 --> 01:45:02,400
The guys playing behind the
starters hear that and they take

1898
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,800
it personal the the regular fan
heard that it was like, oh my

1899
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,800
God we're not going to make it,
he knows who's listening.

1900
01:45:08,900 --> 01:45:11,400
To that because those players
here that read that quote to,

1901
01:45:11,700 --> 01:45:14,300
he's telling me that's an
indirect challenge.

1902
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,500
Yep, trust me, man.
I know the game.

1903
01:45:17,500 --> 01:45:20,400
Yeah, man.
All right, we got we got a

1904
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,700
couple more here from the fans
and then we're going to get a

1905
01:45:22,700 --> 01:45:25,800
little bit of a wrap up here to
kind of call it a night, but the

1906
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:30,600
next one that will go to is from
at Steve Bryce 2020 on Twitter.

1907
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,600
And this is kind of a throwback
to 2021 or even before.

1908
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,700
For a lot of you guys, what was
the game?

1909
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:43,500
Or moment in the last few years
that let you know that coach

1910
01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:46,000
Fuente was not the guy for
Blacksburg.

1911
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,000
I'm sitting this one out already
said Liberty.

1912
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:54,600
It's y'all for Liberty.
Mike Liberty, Liberty Haley,

1913
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,700
real quick, real quick.
I'm sorry.

1914
01:45:56,700 --> 01:46:00,000
Like I say, Liberty a lot.
Like some people are gonna be

1915
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,600
like, oh yeah.
ODU and you know, a Donzi would

1916
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,000
say, oh, do you?
Yeah, I don't say, oh, to you is

1917
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,800
because I know some weird stuff
was having in that game but like

1918
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:14,200
whenever you lose your
quarterback, Weird stuff

1919
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:15,400
happens.
I know the defense wasn't

1920
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,000
getting stopped, everybody's
flying but Foster after that

1921
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,800
which you know rightfully so
those poor performance but like

1922
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,400
any time you lose a quarterback
and you love the game like that

1923
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,300
and your backups not ready to
go, like stuff goes a little

1924
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:31,500
sideways.
So nail nail in the coffin

1925
01:46:31,500 --> 01:46:34,400
moment for me, there were a few
games before but the nail in the

1926
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:38,400
coffin was Notre Dame last year
after a after that game.

1927
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,500
I was like, it's over.
See you?

1928
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:48,300
Hey, yo.
It was Liberty, but I will say

1929
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,800
this to you.
Oh, do you?

1930
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,200
Oh, do you have me on tilt?
But the one that did it, but it

1931
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,700
kind of got mad because he
didn't say the season was the

1932
01:46:56,700 --> 01:46:58,700
dewclaws.
Oh, yeah.

1933
01:46:58,700 --> 01:47:01,800
Because I was, I stepped out.
I don't miss Tech games.

1934
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:06,100
I last year, was the first time
I was back in Blacksburg for the

1935
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:09,200
spring game because I had made
like 16 17 consecutive spring

1936
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,300
games.
So you guys know how much I love

1937
01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:13,200
Tech?
I was talking to Pearson pray.

1938
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,200
Before you came back to Coast.
We talked about how life when

1939
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,000
Tech lost on Saturdays or
whatever.

1940
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,400
They we were done for the rest
of the night, right?

1941
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,000
That dupe debacle.
I want you to Wu-Tang Snoop

1942
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:24,900
concert.
I was like, okay, this would be,

1943
01:47:25,500 --> 01:47:28,600
this would be a safe night and I
had the phone, I was watching

1944
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,700
the game on my phone, my wife.
And I'm like, why we rotating on

1945
01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:33,000
his quarterback?
What are we doing?

1946
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,400
Next thing, that was forty five
to ten and that Duke team was

1947
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,600
horrible and they kept showing
Wednesday on the sidelines

1948
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,900
chewing gum and he had his head
set on, he just never change the

1949
01:47:41,900 --> 01:47:44,900
faces.
I was like yo he ain't it man.

1950
01:47:44,900 --> 01:47:47,400
I started to go back and circle
around two guys.

1951
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,700
Like Donald be another people
who were adamant that he wasn't

1952
01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:54,600
it, and the thing about dissing
Jonathan knows this when you are

1953
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,800
from a player, whether it's your
high school especially your

1954
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,700
college like Tech.
I don't care if it's Oscar, the

1955
01:47:59,700 --> 01:48:02,100
grouch's the head coach.
We want to see the program win.

1956
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,000
I wasn't anti Fuente.
I just wanted to see us win.

1957
01:48:06,300 --> 01:48:09,800
This is my program bro.
And like that Duke debacle was

1958
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,600
bad.
But Liberty, I just I was The

1959
01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:15,500
man, I was ready to drive up
there, bro.

1960
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:20,500
Real talk full disclosure, I'm
bad.

1961
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:23,900
As they were honoring, the 1999
team that night, maybe even

1962
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,400
Grayson not right.
Yeah.

1963
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:26,700
Thank you.
We got it.

1964
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:31,100
Are you going?
Because my cousin was there and

1965
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:33,100
I asked him and he was like,
first of all.

1966
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:35,500
And when you've been at many
people from the 919 there

1967
01:48:35,900 --> 01:48:39,600
because of him in the lack of
disconnection and then when I

1968
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,200
read, he didn't know it and he
didn't talk to them.

1969
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,800
I said, bro.
Shut the ill it's over.

1970
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:58,000
I what about you Danny?
Where's Danny?

1971
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,800
So we're about to talk
predictions but less first

1972
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,300
gauge.
Some expectations at hokey and

1973
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:35,900
Bama on.
Twitter asked, what would you

1974
01:49:35,900 --> 01:49:39,000
all consider a good first season
under the new staff?

1975
01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:46,200
Now, don't let's go, let's go.
Let's go with, let's go with

1976
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:51,700
David on this one first.
As somebody in the media who

1977
01:49:51,700 --> 01:49:58,100
covers this team on a regular
basis, I would say getting to

1978
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:02,100
getting to and not necessarily
winning it but at least getting

1979
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:03,900
to a bowl game.
I think winning.

1980
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:07,400
It would be a bonus but getting
to a bowl game which means you

1981
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,900
finished above 500.
That is a successful season.

1982
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,900
Again, as we've talked about
many times, football is a game

1983
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,500
where there are many injuries
the margins can be ever so.

1984
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,900
So slim you don't know what's
going to happen, but if you're

1985
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:25,400
one Brent, Prayin, this staff
can overcome any challenges,

1986
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,300
they face and get to a bowl
game.

1987
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:32,900
I think winning it is, is a not,
I'm not going to, you know, put

1988
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:37,100
a grade on it, but that would be
a pretty good season for a

1989
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:40,600
first-year, you know, just with
the cupboard that was kind of

1990
01:50:40,700 --> 01:50:46,200
left with the depth that, you
know, there's, as I said

1991
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,100
earlier, there's pretty good 22.
Orders.

1992
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:51,700
But after that, the depth kind
of Wayne's.

1993
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:55,300
So there's not a ton of work
with if you can get to a bowl

1994
01:50:55,300 --> 01:51:00,400
game and and show that off to
recruit guys in the transfer

1995
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,800
portal, that you might be
interested in transferring to

1996
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,600
your program and in the spring
or winter.

1997
01:51:07,700 --> 01:51:10,900
You know, I think I think that
is a good starting point for

1998
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:15,300
year one because you can say,
hey look, you know, we didn't

1999
01:51:15,300 --> 01:51:18,600
completely fall off the face of
the Earth, it might be a A

2000
01:51:18,608 --> 01:51:22,000
rebuilding year but we still had
some success.

2001
01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:29,300
John what are you?
Yeah yeah I agree with him and

2002
01:51:29,300 --> 01:51:31,500
go definitely bowl games went in
the bowl.

2003
01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:35,500
Game is big but I just wanted to
not to be okay with losing man.

2004
01:51:35,500 --> 01:51:37,300
I want to see a fire.
You know what I mean?

2005
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:40,500
Like, I feel like last year many
times, our players were kind of

2006
01:51:40,508 --> 01:51:43,800
used to lose him and it was
just, it was normal to lose and

2007
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,200
we saw a lot of guys, speaking
of bowl game, we saw a lot of

2008
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,700
guys out the bowl game that
never happened when I was

2009
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:51,500
playing, you know?
So I think it's important that

2010
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:53,600
we that we bring that back this
season.

2011
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,100
But I'll go with David Mann,
making a bowl game this year.

2012
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:04,100
Grayson, I think making a bowl
game, six and six, and you got

2013
01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:08,400
to win one of the big three, and
you gotta kick uva's ass beat,

2014
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,900
you beat UVA, and you win either
Boston College, West, Virginia.

2015
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:17,200
And I'm going to say Miami when
one of those preferably West

2016
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:21,600
Virginia, buv a makeable Dwight
are you still with us?

2017
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:27,200
Yeah I am my bad.
You're gonna you're good.

2018
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,000
So what's you know, what's what
you successful season?

2019
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:35,600
I like David's Point that's why
I left off at but I think if

2020
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,400
they can get to a bowl game also
they can if they can win games

2021
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:43,500
that supposed to win.
That is always been the knock on

2022
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:47,400
us since I was at Tech since
before I got the tech but I'm

2023
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,400
part of that group, that kind of
set everything off.

2024
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,800
And you look about all many
teams that Tech that would have

2025
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,400
played for a national
championship or what it went to

2026
01:52:57,700 --> 01:53:02,700
a BCS Bowl Alliance bowl or a
New Year, New Year's day, but we

2027
01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:07,600
were always like a play here,
you know, the Miami of Ohio, the

2028
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,300
temple games, it proc, and get
us over that stigma.

2029
01:53:11,900 --> 01:53:14,300
Winning the games were supposed
to win.

2030
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:19,200
This is a 67 when team, because
look at the schedule, I don't

2031
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,200
like doing.
It because I know the schedule

2032
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,300
is tricky, no matter what season
them, even Alabama's, you can't

2033
01:53:24,300 --> 01:53:27,200
do that.
But I feel like if there's a

2034
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,500
mindset where they can win games
are supposed to win.

2035
01:53:29,500 --> 01:53:32,800
Well, we're not like, man.
How did we lose that game?

2036
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:36,300
I mean, you got the so many
games, the Matt, Ryan's, all

2037
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:38,700
those different games.
When you, like, man, we had that

2038
01:53:38,700 --> 01:53:40,200
guy like you guys.
Curtis.

2039
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:41,600
You just mentioned it died last
year.

2040
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,900
Made last year.
I was in Richmond.

2041
01:53:43,900 --> 01:53:45,400
Watching the game on my phone,
man.

2042
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,400
We were killing Notre Dame.
We got that.

2043
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,700
Pick 6.
We're up nine.

2044
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,700
And I'm like, we're going to
beat Notre Dame and a prime-time

2045
01:53:52,700 --> 01:53:56,500
game.
This is perfect and bad clock

2046
01:53:56,500 --> 01:53:59,800
management.
Crazy plays and substitutions

2047
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:04,800
and then we lose the Syracuse
game, again, we're killing them,

2048
01:54:04,900 --> 01:54:07,700
I mean, and you give a big play,
I mean, but you can go back to

2049
01:54:07,700 --> 01:54:10,500
even when the full of brothers
were there, we were in FedEx

2050
01:54:10,500 --> 01:54:12,700
feeling.
We lose that the last 20 seconds

2051
01:54:12,700 --> 01:54:14,400
against Cincinnati.
Yep.

2052
01:54:14,500 --> 01:54:16,900
So, a proc can get us to a point
where we can win games, were

2053
01:54:16,900 --> 01:54:19,700
supposed to win.
And I mean, what does that mean?

2054
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:23,900
Games when you're the better
team because I think now you

2055
01:54:23,900 --> 01:54:26,500
have what four or five games
right there?

2056
01:54:27,700 --> 01:54:31,800
Because I mean there's nobody on
the schedule right now like

2057
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,800
usually the back especially when
Jonathan McLaughlin was there

2058
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:39,200
during his era, they were
playing like this, Alabama's the

2059
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,300
start this season, I mean they
were playing because at that

2060
01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:45,300
point Jonathan and them had they
earned the right to do that.

2061
01:54:45,300 --> 01:54:47,900
We put them in the position
where they would now carrying

2062
01:54:47,900 --> 01:54:49,700
the torch and they were playing
those.

2063
01:54:49,900 --> 01:54:53,200
Big kick-off, Chick-fil-A games,
and they were ranked, and they

2064
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,200
were feature.
And they deserved all that right

2065
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,700
now.
I'm glad we're where we are.

2066
01:54:56,700 --> 01:55:00,000
We need to Lady later, found the
groundwork down and get back to

2067
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,100
that.
So, if I could just showed me a

2068
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:04,100
competent football team, that
knows what they're doing after a

2069
01:55:04,108 --> 01:55:08,100
timeout and they win games mixed
in with some trick plays, or

2070
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:11,100
some, some new wrinkles, and
some not identity because again,

2071
01:55:11,300 --> 01:55:14,200
having an identity.
I think that's a recipe for a

2072
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:17,500
good season.
I'm gonna go with what Grayson

2073
01:55:17,500 --> 01:55:18,600
said.
I love the way you put it.

2074
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:24,000
Grayson Go to a bowl game, beat
UVA and be the big three.

2075
01:55:24,700 --> 01:55:27,000
Hmm.
Keep it, keep your, keep your

2076
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,400
keep your in-state rival where
they've been for the last 20

2077
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,300
years.
Make a statement will get to a

2078
01:55:33,300 --> 01:55:37,100
bowl but to your point Dwight to
I love what you're saying.

2079
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,900
I want like it when Don B and
John we've all kind of made that

2080
01:55:40,900 --> 01:55:43,000
point.
When ODU decides they're going

2081
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,900
to come to Blacksburg again.
They're walking in defeated.

2082
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,800
They like when we don't want to
go play them, they gonna beat

2083
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,900
the shit out of us.
We're gonna Go home hurt.

2084
01:55:51,500 --> 01:55:55,400
That's the way I want it to be.
I want teams that do not have

2085
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,100
the same level of players come
in with a defeatist mentality.

2086
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,800
And, if we can get that, you
went a lot of games by that

2087
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,200
alone because the other guy does
not think they can compete

2088
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:09,000
walking through or walking into
the stadium.

2089
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,900
All right, Brian.
Let's hit one more with all

2090
01:56:11,900 --> 01:56:14,400
these guys, I think I know where
all you guys are going to land

2091
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,700
on this, but we're going to hit
it up anyway, as I closing

2092
01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:20,100
question, I think we've lost
Mike with the kid but that It

2093
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:25,600
happens, we know, but for the
three fathers on this call up

2094
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,900
top here.
We know, we know, it's all good.

2095
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:31,100
I over under six and a half,
that's what Vegas is putting us

2096
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:33,500
at.
Let's go with where you're at

2097
01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:35,300
Dwight over under six and a
half.

2098
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,400
I got his over, man.
All right, I got us over.

2099
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:44,200
I just I like the energy.
I think we still a game with you

2100
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,200
man.
I like, you know, especially I

2101
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,600
think we all touch on this grace
and talked about this as well

2102
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,600
man.
Just that first game against BC

2103
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:56,400
and Blacksburg is at night game.
I think again you saw that last

2104
01:56:56,400 --> 01:57:00,000
year with North Carolina, the
our fan base, shout out to Hokie

2105
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,300
Nation.
Everybody is watching this right

2106
01:57:01,300 --> 01:57:04,700
now, fan base for decades has
helped us win games.

2107
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,800
I know that sounds crazy because
it's not now magic involved, but

2108
01:57:08,300 --> 01:57:10,200
you give them a good.
You give them a great product,

2109
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,700
they will support it, they will
come, you know, say you build

2110
01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:14,800
it, they will come.
They will, they will come.

2111
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:18,500
And I think His do, I don't
think it's, you know, this is an

2112
01:57:18,500 --> 01:57:21,700
11 win team and nothing like
that but I think you know the

2113
01:57:21,700 --> 01:57:24,000
energy is right?
I got it's over, I got us over,

2114
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,500
but I this is not nostalgic
talking.

2115
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:29,200
This is more soldiers looking at
as David and Mike broke down

2116
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:30,900
about their assessment.
And I'm just looking at the

2117
01:57:30,900 --> 01:57:34,500
teams we play.
I mean, there's no giving

2118
01:57:34,700 --> 01:57:37,500
against any team like he
weathers UVA and all that.

2119
01:57:37,500 --> 01:57:40,900
You know, you look at UVA game.
There's been many times when we

2120
01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:44,900
were clearly the better team and
we only one like 24 to 21, so

2121
01:57:44,900 --> 01:57:47,300
it's not like, you know, you
just gonna blow Them out, but I

2122
01:57:47,300 --> 01:57:50,200
just feel like you can win those
games West, Virginia's, that

2123
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,000
winnable game.
Boston College, the winnable

2124
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,500
game, you know, Pittsburgh is
going to be tough.

2125
01:57:54,500 --> 01:57:56,500
But I mean, it's not like, you
know, other than when they had

2126
01:57:56,500 --> 01:57:59,000
picket, it's not like they just
put up 45 points.

2127
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:04,300
So I got us over.
David David.

2128
01:58:04,300 --> 01:58:09,200
Let's see it yet next.
Yeah, I've got the over I think

2129
01:58:10,300 --> 01:58:16,200
I've been somebody who has said
for a while now, you know,

2130
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,400
having having covered the team
getting a chance to cover brunt.

2131
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,600
Brian the spring and kind of
learn more about his staff in

2132
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,100
the way they want to go about
things.

2133
01:58:24,700 --> 01:58:29,200
You know.
Again, margins are slim but if

2134
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:34,100
Virginia Tech can stay healthy
and we Can and Player

2135
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:37,500
Development is obvious.
You can see guys getting better.

2136
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:43,700
I think this is a team that when
can can win seven, maybe eight

2137
01:58:43,700 --> 01:58:46,100
games.
I don't think there's, I don't

2138
01:58:46,100 --> 01:58:48,300
think there's any any game
that's necessarily out of the

2139
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:52,700
question, you know.
Maybe that's because you know,

2140
01:58:52,700 --> 01:58:55,900
of the state of the ACC, just
the state of Texas schedule.

2141
01:58:56,900 --> 01:58:59,900
You know, I think Tech probably
right now, if I would have to

2142
01:58:59,907 --> 01:59:02,500
guess, I think Tech wins seven
games Tech.

2143
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:07,500
No, I think that's a good
number, you know, those Old

2144
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:09,900
Dominion Wofford Liberty.
Those are three games you need

2145
01:59:09,900 --> 01:59:13,100
to win, Virginia?
That's a fourth Duke in Georgia

2146
01:59:13,100 --> 01:59:14,600
Tech.
That's two more.

2147
01:59:14,900 --> 01:59:16,600
Okay.
So which game are you going to

2148
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,000
steal?
Or you know what other games you

2149
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,600
going to win?
I don't think the schedules

2150
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,500
unfavorable, but I also think
you have to have some luck as

2151
01:59:23,500 --> 01:59:25,300
well.
Luck's going to factor into it,

2152
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,600
but I think, overall, this is a
team that I've got am winning

2153
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,600
seven games and I don't think, I
don't think six.

2154
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,900
Wins.
If Virginia Tech Megan, I said

2155
01:59:34,900 --> 01:59:38,000
earlier, making a bowl game,
that's a success.

2156
01:59:38,300 --> 01:59:41,000
If you can win six games that
success because there's going to

2157
01:59:41,008 --> 01:59:44,700
be other factors that go into
it, but as of now, I've got Tech

2158
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:50,400
7 wins.
I've got the over All right,

2159
01:59:50,900 --> 01:59:55,500
let's go to Mike mix as he feeds
his child there.

2160
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:09,100
And what was it?
That was pretty much right on

2161
02:00:09,100 --> 02:00:13,000
the money.
I mean, a lot of stuff needs to

2162
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,100
go right for it to be any higher
than that.

2163
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:17,800
Realistically, with the roster,
the depth issues in the trenches

2164
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,000
of sure.
You guys have touched on.

2165
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:20,900
When I was stuck in a way for my
computer for a few minutes

2166
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:23,700
offensive and defensive line
depth.

2167
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:27,300
You know, I think is a major
issue.

2168
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:33,400
It's an area where injuries crop
up most often I do think Joe

2169
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:36,700
Rudolph gives the offensive line
of fighting chance, but the

2170
02:00:36,700 --> 02:00:39,700
defensive line is where I have a
lot of concerns.

2171
02:00:39,700 --> 02:00:42,600
If you're looking at like You
know, are you going to be able

2172
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,400
to get after the quarterback
consistently once you get past

2173
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,400
the starters?
Like, that's a huge question.

2174
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,500
I have Playmakers on the
outside.

2175
02:00:50,500 --> 02:00:55,500
I'm still not sure what we have
in terms of like proven depth

2176
02:00:55,500 --> 02:00:56,700
are.
I know there's a lot of talented

2177
02:00:56,700 --> 02:00:59,100
young guys were all really
excited about, but we got to see

2178
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:02,100
it on the field first.
So there there are a lot of

2179
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:06,200
questions with this roster but
there's a lot of questions, like

2180
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:08,700
I mentioned earlier, a lot of
questions with the rest of the

2181
02:01:08,700 --> 02:01:14,200
ACC to and I think The schedule,
the way it shakes out, there's a

2182
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:17,200
lot of winnable games on the
schedule, even for a team that's

2183
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,200
rebuilding.
So I'm Lehman seven and five at

2184
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:23,200
the I think if you know you're
going to bet a six and a half

2185
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,600
way Mark, I think you bet on.
Brent parent is Staff figuring

2186
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:30,600
it out and year one and kind of
getting a long call it, a dead

2187
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:32,600
cat bounce because that's
usually what ends up happening

2188
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,100
when you have to coach going out
the door.

2189
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:37,400
But, you know, I think prying
his staff.

2190
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:40,100
They're going to be able to get
more out of this roster than

2191
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:42,200
Fuente was able to get Have more
talented?

2192
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:43,200
Rosters?
That makes sense?

2193
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,600
I just think the coaching staff
is going to be a lot better.

2194
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:47,400
I think it's going to put the
players in a lot better

2195
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,700
position, even though this is
far from the most talented team

2196
02:01:50,700 --> 02:01:55,800
profile at this time here.
All right, John.

2197
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:59,500
I'll let you go next.
I'm going over as well.

2198
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,900
They got the ability to be 3 and
know going into West Virginia.

2199
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:05,300
And I really believe that I
think we can definitely go

2200
02:02:05,300 --> 02:02:07,100
through it.
All going to West Virginia.

2201
02:02:07,100 --> 02:02:09,200
That's a big time game.
Didn't get were for now then

2202
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,500
we're going to roll, you know,
that's how the seasons work.

2203
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,300
You know, you get on their role,
you keep going, you get better

2204
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:16,700
and better.
So that's that's the first three

2205
02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:18,200
games right there.
And then we have a challenge in

2206
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:21,000
West Virginia and then you got
the ACC, but then you got

2207
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,400
Georgia.
Tech Duke Liberty.

2208
02:02:22,700 --> 02:02:25,000
That's six.
I'm already called it.

2209
02:02:25,008 --> 02:02:27,700
So in between there, you're
going to get two or three.

2210
02:02:27,900 --> 02:02:30,800
More without them.
So you can see exactly steal at

2211
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:34,000
least one, right?
I never going to feel these one

2212
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:35,500
or two.
So I'm going.

2213
02:02:35,500 --> 02:02:40,400
I'm going over.
All right, Grayson based on,

2214
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,600
y'all gonna hate me.
But based on what I don't know

2215
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:48,000
about this coaching staff.
I'm taking the under based on

2216
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:52,100
these last five years alone.
I know it's a new regime but I

2217
02:02:52,100 --> 02:02:55,600
just I'm just taking.
I'm taking the under.

2218
02:02:55,600 --> 02:03:01,000
I got us at six and six.
You know, 50/50, but I just NC

2219
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:06,900
State the Miami game.
Even do q&c and Georgia Tech.

2220
02:03:06,900 --> 02:03:10,700
Even those games worry me, you
just never know, like Coastal

2221
02:03:10,700 --> 02:03:15,300
chaos, it just never ever know
it's complete toss-up, but if

2222
02:03:15,308 --> 02:03:19,000
we, if we can start the season 3
and 0 and we start the season 3

2223
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,600
and 0, we get that BC.
When I could see his winning

2224
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:25,800
seven games for right now, I am
taking the under who who, who

2225
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:29,500
Who's Got BC guy coming back.
Huda coming back at quarterback.

2226
02:03:29,900 --> 02:03:32,500
Your guy who burned?
Yeah, the guy burned us last

2227
02:03:32,500 --> 02:03:37,000
year the second string.
Get filled your kovich or

2228
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,500
whatever.
Who made us look stupid.

2229
02:03:39,500 --> 02:03:44,200
Yeah, I mean yeah not how I was
playing with a broken hand last

2230
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:48,100
year and still get dvorak's.
Yeah.

2231
02:03:49,500 --> 02:03:54,600
All tactile Tech needs to do is
when literally three games in

2232
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,600
September September and October
total three games.

2233
02:03:57,900 --> 02:04:01,900
Because there they should go
undefeated in November, right?

2234
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,600
Like okay, closing stretches,
Georgia, Tech Duke, Liberty

2235
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:08,900
Virginia.
The best team there is probably

2236
02:04:08,900 --> 02:04:11,800
UVA and Liberty, but Liberty
lost a lot.

2237
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,300
I mean, Georgia Tech and do or
they can have five wins between

2238
02:04:14,300 --> 02:04:16,000
the two of them maybe not,
right.

2239
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:20,700
So I mean you could go for a now
and November literally win three

2240
02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:22,200
games.
The first two months, you should

2241
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,700
hit 70, you know.
I understand Grayson's paying

2242
02:04:24,700 --> 02:04:27,700
because he would Grayson, I'm a
therapist you guys I'm lights.

2243
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:32,600
The next problem.
That's why don't blame Greece

2244
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:36,000
him because I did it because I
know what Grace is going through

2245
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:40,900
because I told people man after
I sat in that rainstorm, we gave

2246
02:04:40,900 --> 02:04:43,400
that game away to Cincinnati in
the Military Bowl.

2247
02:04:43,900 --> 02:04:47,400
I could I was I was never coming
back, I was a scorned lover.

2248
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:51,000
I sat there with what you if you
ever had wet socks and I was

2249
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,900
there, my whole family.
I was told you, I'm too big to

2250
02:04:53,900 --> 02:04:57,600
be that stove, bro.
And I was like, yo, I'm done.

2251
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:11,700
We gave the game away.
I am excited about the game

2252
02:05:11,700 --> 02:05:14,200
because we're going to know out
the gate.

2253
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,300
What kind of team we got?
Obviously teams need to get

2254
02:05:16,300 --> 02:05:19,600
better to get worse so I don't
want to make too much of.

2255
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,100
We went 45 to 10, I don't want
to get carried away because we

2256
02:05:22,108 --> 02:05:25,800
got some things to be talking
about playoff runs, but if we

2257
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,600
look confident and we're in
tents, and Flying around.

2258
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,700
I'm going to be and when that
gang I'll take it, I'm gonna

2259
02:05:32,700 --> 02:05:35,700
jump in here real quick because
I like I like Dwight's point.

2260
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:38,300
I like Grayson's point.
I like the things that make said

2261
02:05:38,300 --> 02:05:42,500
as well but where I'm going is
kind of a little bit of what

2262
02:05:42,500 --> 02:05:44,100
Dwight said a little bit, what
Grayson said.

2263
02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:46,900
So and kind of going back to
what, Dwight's?

2264
02:05:46,900 --> 02:05:49,200
The previous question, take care
of the winnable game.

2265
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:52,700
So we've got in theory, six,
winnable games on our schedule.

2266
02:05:52,900 --> 02:05:57,600
Yep, very winnable games.
So, if we can take care of those

2267
02:05:57,700 --> 02:06:00,500
Those.
And then, as John said, steal

2268
02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:02,400
one or two, that gives us the
over.

2269
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,600
So, my hope, my heart's in, I
think we can get the over.

2270
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:10,800
Now, my mind saying, is that if
we're not undefeated or close to

2271
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:16,700
it getting to October, it could
get a rough stretch for a while

2272
02:06:16,700 --> 02:06:21,200
there, and we need to see how we
respond to that adversity going

2273
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:24,400
into those winnable matchups
down the stretch.

2274
02:06:24,900 --> 02:06:27,600
We don't want to let games in
October, dictate how?

2275
02:06:27,700 --> 02:06:31,700
How we play, and how we respond
to these more winnable games

2276
02:06:31,700 --> 02:06:35,700
that are coming in November?
Yeah, I'm going to just stick it

2277
02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:37,700
at this.
I'm over six and a half.

2278
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:40,200
That's it.
I'm over six and a half.

2279
02:06:40,500 --> 02:06:43,900
I hope in a couple weeks here.
Me and Brian are gonna be doing

2280
02:06:43,900 --> 02:06:47,800
a preview Brian.
A few weeks ago, told me he was

2281
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,500
going to be under.
So y'all are clearly changing

2282
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:53,700
this man's mind about what he
thinks this season is going to

2283
02:06:53,700 --> 02:06:59,900
be, I'm over right now because
it is, some optimism is thinking

2284
02:06:59,900 --> 02:07:03,100
about I just keep looking at
games last year that were that

2285
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:05,900
close and we're better at the
quarterback position.

2286
02:07:06,500 --> 02:07:09,600
We downgraded it wider.
Receiver, we've upgraded it

2287
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:12,600
offensive line coach.
We have a lot of cord defense

2288
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:16,600
coming back.
And you're going to a scheme,

2289
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:21,400
say what you will, this is a
scheme, these players were

2290
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:26,900
recruited for this is a scheme.
These players were recruited for

2291
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:29,800
no, knock on J Hamm, but we were
trying to do some different

2292
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:35,500
things that's going to be a big
piece that the systems with

2293
02:07:35,500 --> 02:07:37,900
these guys are supposed to play
in because it's would buds crew.

2294
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:40,900
All right, we're going to make
one quick announcement.

2295
02:07:40,900 --> 02:07:45,000
We're going to wrap it up here.
Starting two weeks from Night

2296
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:48,200
the boundary Corner podcast is
going to start coming live to

2297
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:51,500
you guys on Tuesday nights,
9:30.

2298
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:55,200
Not Wednesday only going to be
doing it once a week.

2299
02:07:56,500 --> 02:08:02,000
Me and the big guy here, our
professional lives have been

2300
02:08:02,500 --> 02:08:05,400
very successful the last couple
of years, and we've gotten some

2301
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,700
additional responsibilities with
that work.

2302
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,600
So it's kind of tough with
families to pull two nights a

2303
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:14,100
week to pull multiple hours
away.

2304
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:16,200
Way.
So one night a week, two weeks

2305
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,500
from tonight, when we start,
that might see us Flex from

2306
02:08:19,500 --> 02:08:22,600
Monday's, if we have a Thursday
night game but we wanted to put

2307
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:25,400
that out there for all of us.
Hey, you know, I just wanted to

2308
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:28,400
say hey thank all y'all man like
Grayson and sons.

2309
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,600
All you guys that David my I
know what you're talking about,

2310
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:34,100
you know?
Because I got I got three

2311
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,300
podcast.
I got to join.

2312
02:08:35,300 --> 02:08:38,100
I do it, Mike that seasonal.
I got the Victory Life thing I

2313
02:08:38,100 --> 02:08:40,400
do, then I got the Victory Life
Legacy podcast.

2314
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,200
I do it Daddy but I want to
thank you all on behalf of the

2315
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:47,400
fans because of the She
humidity, you know, the podcast

2316
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:50,900
Community is lit like we got you
know I know down V and Danny

2317
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:55,400
jumped off but you guys all do
great work, I'm fans you know

2318
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,800
Jonathan everybody you know I'm
saying David I read your stuff

2319
02:08:58,900 --> 02:09:02,000
Mike, I checked for you A lot of
times when boundary Curtis and

2320
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,300
Via going I'm on there talking
and typing.

2321
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:07,300
So I appreciate y'all know for
real man.

2322
02:09:07,300 --> 02:09:09,600
You know, like his great to have
great content.

2323
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,600
And the thing about it is we've
been, you know, a program that's

2324
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:14,800
been up and down.
So we have a Start getting back

2325
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,700
to those days when I was there
in Jonathan, were there, it's

2326
02:09:17,700 --> 02:09:19,600
going to be even better.
It's going to be more

2327
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:22,500
excitement, even more listeners
and more viewers and then

2328
02:09:22,500 --> 02:09:25,900
finally man, like, as far as the
season, I'm glad I got you guys

2329
02:09:25,900 --> 02:09:28,300
in lean on me.
I can't take anymore.

2330
02:09:28,700 --> 02:09:30,800
ODU, Liberty losses.
I can't.

2331
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:34,400
I'm holding, I can't take it.
I can't take it, bro.

2332
02:09:34,700 --> 02:09:35,900
I need some wins.
I can't.

2333
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:49,000
You almost broke you, it broke,
you Liberty?

2334
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:53,500
Come on, bro, we speak.
Speaking of dads everybody.

2335
02:09:53,500 --> 02:09:57,000
Let's check out Mike.
Mike is doing the ultimate

2336
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:00,600
multitasking right here.
The man is feeding his baby and

2337
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,100
all gonna pop.
Hey, I always say it.

2338
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:06,600
Mike is the hardest working, man
in Hokie Nation.

2339
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:11,400
He wears all the hats and right
now he's wearing he's on a hokie

2340
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,000
podcast panel while feeding his
child.

2341
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:17,400
The only the only way I can pull
this off tonight with the six

2342
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,600
week old baby.
So that's dedication, man.

2343
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:21,800
I really appreciate it.
No doubt, we appreciate

2344
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,400
appreciate it, hanging in there
for the long run.

2345
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:29,700
Well listen, that is going to
wrap up the 2022.

2346
02:10:29,700 --> 02:10:34,200
Hope he season preview panel,
special, thanks Danny notes,

2347
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:37,600
David Cunningham, Don V the
white Vic, Grayson one Bush.

2348
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,700
John McLaughlin Mike McDaniel
for coming on tonight.

2349
02:10:40,700 --> 02:10:43,200
All you guys sharing your
knowledge, sharing your opinion,

2350
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:46,100
sharing your input with, Our
audience and you all know this

2351
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:49,800
is some of y'all's audiences
well and if you are new to the

2352
02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:53,400
boundary Corner podcast and want
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2353
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:56,700
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listen to all of our episodes,

2354
02:10:56,700 --> 02:11:00,000
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2355
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,000
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2356
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,300
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2357
02:11:04,300 --> 02:11:09,000
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2358
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:12,500
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Vic 757 podcast starting up

2359
02:11:12,500 --> 02:11:14,100
soon.
Mike McDaniel.

2360
02:11:14,700 --> 02:11:17,600
On the basketball conference
podcast with the sons of

2361
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,700
Saturday, hokey hangover.
Checking with breaking SI

2362
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:23,800
stories, John, I know you and
Luthor about to fire it up

2363
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:29,600
again, the locker room podcast,
get that one going check out mr.

2364
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:33,500
Cunningham's writing at Tech
sideline follow him on Twitter.

2365
02:11:33,500 --> 02:11:37,100
If you love hockey football, he
is giving some awesome videos

2366
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:40,300
from practice.
You can write one great video.

2367
02:11:40,300 --> 02:11:44,500
Yeah, it's great.
Text Sidelines podcast you guys

2368
02:11:44,500 --> 02:11:47,400
do in the middle of the day.
I can't listen to it quite as

2369
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:51,800
often anymore cause I'm in too
many meetings now Grayson funds

2370
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:54,000
you guys keep pushing out that
content.

2371
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:58,700
I'm ready for the full video
release of the preview, it's

2372
02:11:58,700 --> 02:12:01,200
coming.
Y'all keep it support.

2373
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,500
All These Guys, these are
Hokies, it's awesome.

2374
02:12:04,900 --> 02:12:08,100
As always we let our buddy who
lives down in Roanoke, Jason

2375
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:10,200
long.
He plays Us in, he plays us out.

2376
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:12,100
Check him out at Jason long.
Music Died.

2377
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:15,500
Arm where he does have a new
album, check to Spotify Amazon.

2378
02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:17,900
Music is YouTube and Facebook
pages.

2379
02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,900
We thank you all for listening
and watching tonight and as

2380
02:12:21,900 --> 02:12:25,500
always, I need unmutes to happen
and I need to hear it loud.

2381
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:30,600
Unmute them all all of you Mike
you don't have, you don't have

2382
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:32,100
too much.
Let's go.

2383
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:33,500
Okay.

Dwight Vick

Hokie Legend/Vicktory Life Founder

Dwight is a proud graduate of Virginia Tech. While at Virginia Tech, Dwight played for the legendary Coach Frank Beamer as an offensive lineman from 1994-1999.

In an effort to help youth achieve their dreams of becoming successful, he created Vicktory Life in 2018 and works as the Director of Student Development. In this role, he provides therapeutic mentoring to at risk youth focuses on goal setting, career development, time management, and life skills.

Mike McDaniel

Sports Writer and Podcaster

Mike McDaniel graduated from the Pamplin College of Business at Virginia Tech in 2015. He has previously written for Gobbler Country on the SB Nation network, Fighting Gobbler for Fansided, InsideTheACC.com, The Tech Lunch Pail, and most recently for Sports Illustrated. In addition to writing, Mike is also the host of the Sons of Saturday Hoops podcast, co-host of Basketball Conference: The ACC Football Podcast and the Hokie Hangover Podcast covering Virginia Tech athletics.

Jon McLaughlin

Former Player and Podcaster

Jon McLaughlin is a Virginia Tech graduate and Hokies football player from 2013-2016. He played offensive line for the Hokies and was the first freshman to start at left tackle for a Frank Beamer coached team. Since graduation Jon has teamed up with former teammate Luther Maddy to create The Locker Room podcast. This players only podcast features discussions and interviews with former Hokies players that allows listeners to share in some of the unique Hokie Brotherhood moments.